fun integral battle#4: rethink factoring...

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  • Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
  • integral of 1/(x^4+x) vs. integral of 1/(x^2*(x^4+1)^(3/4)),
    (Sorry, this is a re-upload since I had a typo in the previous upload)
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    tags: integral of 1/(x^4+x), integral of 1/(x^2*(x^4+1)^(3/4)), integral battle, fun integral problem, MIT integral bee problem, integralcalc, integral calculus, calculus 2, calculus 1 integral, challenging integral problem, how to do substitution for integral, u-sub examples, integral examples, steve chow,

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  • @AsafShahar
    @AsafShahar 7 лет назад +58

    This is just ingenious
    .

  • @diegomontalvo9173
    @diegomontalvo9173 8 лет назад +49

    It would be great if you make a video explaining hyperbolic trigonometric functions.

  • @Ghost____Rider
    @Ghost____Rider 4 года назад +7

    I did substitution of tanθ=x^3/2 but your way is much nicer. Great video ;)
    *Edit: For the first integral that is*

  • @clusteralgebra
    @clusteralgebra 7 лет назад +20

    Another way to do the first one: 1/(x^4 + x) = 1/x(x^3 + 1) = 1/x - x^2/(1+x^3) and antiderivative is just ln x - ln(1 + x^3) / 3 + C

    • @tychophotiou6962
      @tychophotiou6962 6 лет назад +1

      Alan Yan that's exactly how I did it as soon as I saw it.

  • @rob_dyy
    @rob_dyy 8 лет назад +18

    I watch your videos all the time and learning so much more than what the cal class offers, Great video.

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  8 лет назад +12

      I am very glad to hear about this!
      And I plan to make more of this kind of integral videos. I think it's a really good way to really learn the integration techniques and more fun too!

    • @damirbajramovic292
      @damirbajramovic292 7 лет назад +1

      Dude, I stopped watching South Park for fun and started doing integrals. You rock!

  • @dalek1099
    @dalek1099 7 лет назад +5

    This sort of thing reminds me of some other methods that often tutors seem to not know when approaching what can be very easy integrals like integral xsqrt(1+x) dx doesn't have to be by parts instead write x=x+1-1

  • @theessentialist6813
    @theessentialist6813 8 лет назад +1

    Wow!Great videos,great explaining and great examples!Thank you so much!
    Also I have some integrals examples which I am dealing with lately and I am having some diffuculties to deal with!Would u be able to have a look to them and help me with?
    THANK YOU SO MUCH!

  • @alecambrose151
    @alecambrose151 7 лет назад +17

    This is art

  • @shankargore9084
    @shankargore9084 7 лет назад +12

    solve integration (x^2+1)(x^2+2)/(x^2+3)/(x^2+4)

  • @thisismycoolnickname
    @thisismycoolnickname 7 лет назад +2

    I did the first one by adding and subtracting x^3 in the numerator
    1dx / x(x^3+1) = (x^3+1-x^3)dx / x(x^3+1)
    So I got a sum of two integrals and the answer I got is ln |x| - 1/3 ln | x^3+1 |, and it's equivalent to yours :)

  • @ernestschoenmakers8181
    @ernestschoenmakers8181 7 лет назад +1

    Well i came to the same answer but i used the method of partial fraction decomposition and did the integrals subsequently. This method needed a lot more work than yours.

  • @sagarmajumder7806
    @sagarmajumder7806 2 года назад

    I take my words.You are not only good mind manupulation, you are "PRO" at this🤯🤯🤯😎😎.I felt sorry bcoz I have shortage of words tp explain it.

  • @funmomentmemes
    @funmomentmemes 6 лет назад +1

    How to do this math
    integrate
    (1-v/v२+v+1 ) =1/x dv/dx

  • @albertomaximilianovenegasl6880
    @albertomaximilianovenegasl6880 3 года назад

    but the fourth root of x raised to the fourth is x only if x is greater than or equal to zero, otherwise it would be -x .... I have that doubt, then we would have to make two different integrals, one assuming that x is positive and the other where the x is negative?
    help me please!!! PD:
    excuse my english but i speak spanish

  • @magepker728
    @magepker728 8 лет назад +1

    wow i solve this using trig sub which took me 1 page.. and this method of yours is extremely useful and easy. have you come up with a name for this method yet?? heheh

  • @yanquoimolubah1507
    @yanquoimolubah1507 5 лет назад +1

    Do you always have to make calculus this easy 😂😂😂😂

  • @_TharunKumar
    @_TharunKumar 3 года назад

    These type of integrals simply solved by taking x power in common

  • @proofofalifetime488
    @proofofalifetime488 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for making all these awesome math videos for us math people around the world! :)

  • @shamilbabayev8405
    @shamilbabayev8405 4 года назад

    1/(x^4+x)=1/x-x^2/(x^3+1) , the rest of steps are clear.....

  • @jackkalver4644
    @jackkalver4644 4 месяца назад

    You forgot to multiply the integral by sign(x).

  • @alessandrofaranca1309
    @alessandrofaranca1309 Год назад

    i did the first with the separate fractions method and then using the exact approach showed for the second one.

  • @amanmahendroo1784
    @amanmahendroo1784 7 лет назад +1

    what if we do tan substitution on No2?

  • @assaultrifle6221
    @assaultrifle6221 5 лет назад +1

    1/(x^8 + 1) ?????????

  • @zhahrotunnisa7577
    @zhahrotunnisa7577 7 лет назад +1

    thank you. this video is good

  • @belmokhtarbentadj9794
    @belmokhtarbentadj9794 8 лет назад

    great work i love it

  • @buenchiko007
    @buenchiko007 8 лет назад +1

    wow, i never knew there was such a way to solve an integral, thanks for sharing!

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 5 лет назад

    Integrating of binomial differentials
    In polish and russian schools there is standard substitution for this

  • @CheapPhysics
    @CheapPhysics 3 года назад

    I have made both of them maaan!!!!

  • @TonySoprano1729
    @TonySoprano1729 5 лет назад

    es interesante que la forma en que resuelves la primera te simplifica bastante, yo lo primero que pensé fue por fracciones parciales y si llegue a un resultado equivalente al tuyo, pero por parciales es más largo el procedimiento, en fin excelente vídeo saludos.

  • @juandeluna2652
    @juandeluna2652 6 лет назад

    Excellents tutorials, I've learned more and more, practice and love for maths, two essential things, thanks for all your wonderful posts.

  • @tylerwebb7303
    @tylerwebb7303 5 лет назад

    How can you factor out an x^4 power in the denominator of the second integral if the quantity you are factoring it out of is raised to a power?

  • @x-warrior8517
    @x-warrior8517 6 лет назад

    In india ,we call it 'kutur putur ' method.thanks 😍

  • @gatoquellora3201
    @gatoquellora3201 4 года назад

    Eres el puto amo!!

  • @carlosv.ramirezibanez3305
    @carlosv.ramirezibanez3305 6 лет назад

    Para la primera integral sume un cero: 4x^3-4x^3 y sale directo

  • @albiceleste101
    @albiceleste101 7 лет назад

    that was actually fun! specially because I didnt have to solve them

  • @srpenguinbr
    @srpenguinbr 6 лет назад

    in the first one, I factored out x^2 and made two subs. It worked

  • @がつかくん
    @がつかくん 5 лет назад

    wow!I got it... I had no idea there was such a way!thank u.

  • @yoursmartypie1038
    @yoursmartypie1038 6 лет назад

    The video was very helpful.
    Thanks

  • @ilaganpaulvincentr.4282
    @ilaganpaulvincentr.4282 3 года назад

    Mind blowing strat! Thank u ❤

  • @ColeHudsonRocks
    @ColeHudsonRocks 7 лет назад

    This is maybe my favorite youtube channel. I love the way you approach the different problems. It teaches me not only how to solve the problem, but also how to approach other problems. Thank you! 谢谢!

  • @corderorosalesjulia9496
    @corderorosalesjulia9496 5 лет назад

    Te amo :)

  • @w_wahlang1990
    @w_wahlang1990 7 лет назад

    why not split 1st one as 1/x - x^2/(1+x^3) but answer is different from yours.

    • @reIONEre
      @reIONEre 6 лет назад

      wadbor wahlang lnx-ln(1+x^3)/3= (ln(x^3)-ln(1+x^3))/3 = -ln((1+x^3)/x^3)/3 = -ln(1+x^-3)/3; as you can see, both answers are the same.

  • @radouaniabdelhadi332
    @radouaniabdelhadi332 5 лет назад

    Very nice

  • @remyassier1758
    @remyassier1758 3 года назад

    Great !!

  • @abasiomary9609
    @abasiomary9609 5 лет назад

    Genius

  • @00Goodwin00
    @00Goodwin00 7 лет назад

    At 8:33 the divided by 3 has vanished. Great way to do it took me a while doing it the partial fractions way.

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  7 лет назад +4

      Alex Goodwin I see. I will have to edit that out

  • @MarceloRodrigues-kl6cz
    @MarceloRodrigues-kl6cz 7 лет назад

    Never would i think so.

  • @andreshippy17100
    @andreshippy17100 7 лет назад

    excelente, saludos desde Colombia

  •  7 лет назад

    dude, your mic is just ridiculous

  • @omereng2827
    @omereng2827 7 лет назад

    thanku very good way

  • @tanvirsaikat602
    @tanvirsaikat602 6 лет назад

    great man...u r the boss

  • @farooq8fox
    @farooq8fox 7 лет назад

    Easy 👌

  • @Humongastone
    @Humongastone 7 лет назад

    what does he mean @1:20?

  • @yhonsalas9692
    @yhonsalas9692 7 лет назад

    (1+x^3)

  • @MegaBuwaneka
    @MegaBuwaneka 8 лет назад

    Great piece of work

  • @mazharbiplob2714
    @mazharbiplob2714 5 лет назад

    please solve that...... dx/x^2(x^2+1)^2

    • @ernestschoenmakers8181
      @ernestschoenmakers8181 4 года назад

      You can solve this integral 2 ways: trig sub and partial fractions, try both, by the 2nd one you need integration by parts.

  • @MegaEsaka
    @MegaEsaka 6 лет назад

    Nice teaching :)

  • @koashaygyi
    @koashaygyi 7 лет назад

    Thank you.

  • @koashaygyi
    @koashaygyi 7 лет назад

    Thank you.

  • @sunillokhande3009
    @sunillokhande3009 5 лет назад

    Sir plese integrate 1/(x^7+ 1)

  • @faridhamel9334
    @faridhamel9334 7 лет назад

    Thank you.

  • @KN-jq2hi
    @KN-jq2hi 8 лет назад

    Thank you :)

  • @anasselahmadi5503
    @anasselahmadi5503 8 лет назад

    Thanks for thes vedio: )

    • @blackpenredpen
      @blackpenredpen  8 лет назад +1

      You're welcome. I am glad that you like them!

  • @iZenZation
    @iZenZation 7 лет назад

    genius

  • @yhonsalas9692
    @yhonsalas9692 7 лет назад

    (x^-3 + 1) ???? negative -3

  • @malukoandmigga
    @malukoandmigga 7 лет назад

    pinche nonito donaire