If you think about it, Disney never actually gave us any video of Athena holding newly born Ariel, so they had to improvise with video image of Ariel holding newly born Melody.
Athena was not going after her music box. First she saved her oldest daughter. She tried to get the music box AFTER that. And that clip at three minutes, is Ariel holding her daughter Melody. Someone please redo this video and get the facts straight first.
They where still right about her going for the music box.... Thats what got her taken.... And in the movie her mpther did cradel Ariel but they didnt show that clip... Your right there
Think about it for a minute here, did Disney ever actually give us video of Athena holding newly born Ariel? No, they gave us video of Ariel holding newly born Melody, so the makers of this video had to improvise. Ugh, I feel like I'm a recording on repeat right about now. Doesn't anyone realize that with zero footage of Athena holding Ariel as a newborn baby and footage of Ariel holding Melody as a newborn baby that improvisation is a must? Also, scientifically speaking, it's possible for a baby to start out with black hair before it turns red. For example, when I was a newborn baby, I didn't have hair, but as I got older I got hair. It started out black, then it lightened up and became blonde, and I mean almost platinum blonde. I'm sure that scientists can explain how someone's hair starts out black and lightens to being red better than I can though.
Diamond Rose Preach! These facts are so dumb. I bet they didn't have a video plan and quickly made this in 30 minutes (sorry for being mean it's just The little mermaid movies are my favorite)
@@sweetybee77 I have seen it, and there's no footage of Ariel as a newborn baby. That's the point of my above comment, we have video of Ariel as being 4 or 5 years old, but she's not a newborn baby. No video of Ariel as a newborn baby means they had to improvise with video of Ariel holding Melody as a newborn baby, which again was my point. Ariel's Begging doesn't show us Ariel as a newborn baby but it does show us Ariel as a preschool age child.
That would be freaking amazing if there's a movie where Ariel, Melody, Eric, Triton, Sebastian and Flounder go on a mission to save queen Athena and reveal all the truth!!!
“In the little Mermaid 2 we catch a glimpse of Athena cradling her youngest daughter” You kidding right? That’s Ariel’s daughter how dumb do you think we are ....
The thing about Athena "living a double life" is ridiculous. The whole thing sadly is. Take into account the fact that if Athena was among the mermaids in Neverland, it was when she was seemingly quite young because those mermaids are depicted as very young, not much older than the children. Children and teenagers can be blunt, misbehaving and misguided, especially in a place absent of most adults (don't even get me started on Peter himself). Let's not forget that mermaids are NOT HUMAN and don't have to have the same ethics as humans, and there is no such thing as a person who is entirely good or entirely evil based on their actions, even in fiction. The mermaids were jealous on top of that and might have been at least half joking. The apparent age of the mermaid rules out the idea of Athena having been taken to Neverland afterwards, but if she left Neverland and went to Atlantica then the time periods are in the wrong order which makes no sense. Peter Pan is set later than The Little Mermaid. Also there's a high chance that while they were practising mermaids in Peter Pan, the creators didn't leave any on-purpose cameos mermaid wise. Not only did they not know they were going to make that movie for decades, but originally Ariel was going to be BLONDE. The reason she got red hair in the end was because of the release of Splash around the same time featuring a blonde mermaid. Ariel's Beginning was released literal decades later too and only at that point had they fully decided to make it that Athena looked so similar to Ariel, as originally she was a barely mentioned let alone shown character. And to top it all off, while it was as obvious as they could manage that the ship crashed, the reason we didn't see Athena getting killed in Ariel's Beginning was because it is a family-friendly Disney movie in which they can't really get away with a lot of onscreen violent death and would have a hard time otherwise showing this mermaid getting literally crushed to death! Sorry to break down this theory, it's just there's too many holes in it.
I don't think any of the two redheaded mermaids from Peter Pan are Ariel's mother Athena. And the reasons why none of them is Athena are because 1) Athena had green eyes, while the two redheaded mermaids had brown eyes, 2) The tails/fins to the redheaded meraids from Peter Pan had a lighter shade of aqua blue, while Athena had aqua blue (Aqua). Btw was I the only one who heared her say Windy instead of Wendy when she said Wendy's name or did I just imagine it and she did say Wendy's name right? (Sorry for my bad English)
It's ok for your bad english-sorry if I spelled it rong-but you have a point on what you said (how long did it take to tipe it an hour+please answer me back)
Yeah that's true.. but she can't change her eye color. If one of the redheaded mermaids from Peter Pan had green eyes then it could have been possible that it was Ariel's mother Athena when she was younger but they both had brown eyes.
Queen Athena and king Triton were best friends since they were children . When they were adults they fell in love and shared a song( endlessly sky) and when Athena had all of her children she sang endless sky into a lullaby for them. On Athena and Triton anniversary Triton gave her the music box...but the pirate ship came and tho they were only there for the treasure Athena had to stay and help Attina (her oldest daughter) get her fin out of a rock but after that she realised she lost her music box so she looked for it...as soon as she saw it she tried to get it but the pirates threw the hook and Athena had to avoid getting caught so she swam away from the rock King Triton called her name and she looked down but she couldn't go without her music box so she swam back to the rock... unfortunately the pirates lost control of the ship and to get it back in control they tried everything but instead of controlling it they made it speed up and unfortunately Athena couldn't swim in the water so she sacrificed herself in order for her family to be safe (I think)
Intrest in MATERIAL THINGS?! That was a gift from her HUSBAND, what the hell? What do you have against Queen Athena? It’s Disney canon, she is a GOOD person.
In Peter Pan, the mermaids at the mermaid lagoon have a big resemblance with Ariel. When Athena was attacked by pirates, they could have meant Hook and Smee
if you look closely you can see the iconic hook in the hair of the red headed mermaid with her hair tied up that fits the description of both Ariel's and Athena's hair during one of the peter pan scenes. The hair being tied up in her mermaid form is our biggest give away as Athena's hair is tied up both in Neverland and Atlantica just like how Ariel's hair is always down in The Little Mermaid and when it undoes when King Triton changes Ariel back to her mermaid form in Return to the Sea
Did you know that Ariel is the granddaughter of Poseidon and Amphitrite? Their son was Triton who was the first half-man half-fish. The same King Triton in the movie. Poseidon also wielded a trident, which King Triton also has.
Aphrodite is the daughter of Ouranos, God of the sky. She is the goddess of love and beauty, wife of Hephaestus, God of the forge and one of the Olympians. Amphitrite is a sea goddess and wife of Poseidon.
@@beberivera7011 In one of the newer versions yes. But in the original myth she wasn't. She was born when Chronos killed Ouronos. He threw the genitals over the land and sea and the dripping blood birthed many deities. Aphrodite was born from sea foam. She resided on an island until after the Titan war.
Well in the Broadway version of the little mermaid it was told that her mother was killed by Ursula (Lines from the script) Ursula: even made you think that humans murdered your mother! Ariel: if humans didn't kill her... Who did? Triton: it was YOU wasn't it!? Ursula: *theatrically* who moi? I couldn't hurt a minnow!
In regards to the final theory speculating she could still be alive, albeit trapped somewhere in Neverland, I would love for her to come back & reunite with her family! It also makes me think of if this theory was canon in the Descendants universe. Do you recall in the first Descendants movie where Queen Leah, Aurora's mother & Audrey's grandmother, meets Mal and snaps at her? This was due to her grief over missing Aurora's childhood, which she wrongfully blames Mal for, since she is Maleficent's daughter. While you were explaining the last theory, I recalled when you had earlier speculated that Athena could have had a crueler side to her, and I imagined that same scene, but with (a nicer?) Harry instead of Mal, and Athena instead of Leah. Then again, I'm.. not quite sure how they would have that conversation, given that Athena doesn't have legs, but I suppose they could be near a shoreline of some sort?
Sadly, Disney is bad about showing the truth about how some parents just plain don't come back from the grave. I like the idea, it's how I grew up, seeing truths about losses. And Disney helped.
Love that theory i have one to add on to yours harry hook has a connection to the sea as this is him being the son of a pirate. Queen athena could have rushed away from the ship but the current pushed her towards the desendants francise. Knowing this info queen athena might have been bippity-boppity- boo'd by fairy god mother to have grown a pair of legs And could be living amongst the descentdants people. Ariel may have her mothers personality as well you never know we could have a easter egg somewhere. Ursela has never shown her face to the camera all we saw was a tentecal, we never saw captain hook either so knowing that athena could be in hiding from ursela and hook which may explain why we never saw them? For example queen athena supposedly got "killed" by a ship. So that may have been hooks ship sailing over to the isle of the lost after being banished. Athenas tail might have gotten caught in the ship and then washed up on shore. Because ariel and athena are mother and daughter she could be as naive as ariel therefore she may have been frightened by the human world. So she may be alive what i am saying is she could be alive and in hiding or captured maybe safe with a desguised look as a teacher nobody knows athenas last name so with a new look athena could be teaching at auradon prep! Thats my theory in connect to yours put that together you got yourself some headcannon!
Actually in a straight to DVD sequel it shows how she died and what happened with king Triton and how he reacts and how she meets flounder its called the little mermaid Ariel’s beginning Sorry
mrmusiclover87 sorry realized that later just to lazy to fix comment I didn’t even finish the video once they said it was her mom holding Ariel instead of Ariel holding melody I was sooooooo done
I call BS!!! Airel's mother couldn't be in Neverland, here's the reason, Neverland is a island in the SKY!!!!!! the ocean where Ariel grew up is not in the Sky (the next star to the right and what ever) besides the neverland mermaids look nothing like Ariel mermaids!!! Airel's father didn't hate just pirates, he hated all humans, and how could Airel get her love of human objects from her mother? Her mother died when she was young! And Captain Hook didn't hate mermaids, he hated Peter Pan and the lost boys! There are so many things wrong with what you are saying.
Remember this is disney! Details don't matter if it means they are all connected (being sarcastic). But seriously Young Athena having been to Neverland makes sense we've seen both Hook and Pan travel back and forth from the "real world" to Neverland why couldn't Athena. Especially when you remember that Ursula was once a part of Atlantica but was shunned by Triton later on, why couldn't young Athena have asked Ursula for help in leaving Atlantica to see far way places where she could be close to Humans? If you want to get technical about it, Young Triton fell in love with Athena but she didn't return his love because she wanted to explore the humans world (sound familiar? Ariel) so she asked Ursula for help and when Triton found out he was mad and shunned Ursula. When Athena got to Neverland she didn't like how the other mermaids acted (who knows maybe those specific mermaids were a trouble making gang because if you notice all those mermaids have the same color tail; maybe they were a prejudiced, troublemaking mermaid gang) and maybe the fact that the mermaids turned evil at night could have been a curse put on all mermaids in Neverland ( we know Neverland isn't all sunshine and rainbows!). thats where she met Hook, something happened (bad influences) that left Hook with a poor taste in his mouth for mermaids. Athena comes Back to Atlantica and ends up marrying Triton, they have kids and Ariel is the last to be born (but has her mothers spirit of adventure and curiosity). Years go by and for some reason Hook is in Denmark (supposed setting for the little mermaid) maybe looting and (and taking a break from the jerk that is Peter Pan!) spots a familiar mermaid (Athena) and decides to take revenge. Athena is killed by Hook, a HUMAN pirate which leaves Triton with hate for all Humans because they took his love twice, the later having killed her. And now wants to protect Ariel from them. I just impressed myself!! Also the fact that Athena would have a lighter colored tail when she was young would make sense too if it meant that all mermaids tails change color (darken or lighten) as they get older, same with humans (Baby's eye color, our hair color dulls as well as our eyes as we get older too).
In one of the sequals of Aladdin, it shows a huge amount of treasure and a boat there to. There is a mermaid plastered on the front of the boat. That mermaid looks very similar to ariel and her mom. That mermaid tries to catch however tries to get the treasure. What if that was captain hook's boat and treasure. He could have plastered ariel's mom there to protect the treasure.
I think it was her but when she was younger. Like before she met King Trident. The mermaids in Peter Pan look about 15, 16 years old. So maybe it was her mom when she was younger.
@Joshua Lowe you’re completely wrong,did you see the movie? Sorry if I’m being rude,but one of Ariel’s sister got her tail stuck and Ariel’s mother have to save her and when the sister was free Ariel’s mother got crushed by pirates :’(
@@sunhopii8534 r/whoosh. They were being sarcastic. We don't actually don't know if she did get crushed. It never showed (of course ot didn't) so Disney can all of sudden pop in and say "Oh look! She only got kiddnaped!"
Not much as double life, rather a past sin. If she once belonged to that group of Mermaids, she drowned some of them in turn of moon. She realised her mistake when she met triton but captain hook didn't forget what she did so it's sensible to him to exact revenge against her
I have my own Little Mermaid theroy about what happened to Ariel's mom, now it may sound a little crazy so brace yourselves: My idea is, a 3-4 year old Ariel, her older sisters, and her parents were playing with each other at the surface in a little pool with rocks. Ariel was swiming around, trying to keep up with her older sisters when something caught her eyes. Athena asked her little daughter what she was looking at and Ariel pointed to a pirate ship coming their way. The pirates on the ship were looking for mermaids and were coming to get the family. Triton told his wife and daughters to get under water as fast as they could. They listened and hurried under water. Athena counted her daughters to make sure they were all there, but one was missing. It turns out, Ariel had left her favorite doll on a rock at the surface and went to get it back. Once the little mermaid got her doll, she caught another look at the ship and her curious heart began to wonder about how big the ship was and how it worked. She began swiming closer to it when Athena came up and got her daughter away from the ship. Only problem was, not seeing where they were, the two were now cornered by a large rock. The ship was getting closer and closer, then Athena got and idea, she had just enough time to get Ariel away from the ship and to safety. She hugged her little daughter and gave her one last kiss before, gentely, throwing her as far as she could, getting hit by the boat herself. Ariel landed in the water and was caught by Triton. However, he wanted to see where his wife was so he handed Ariel to his oldest daughter Attina, and told her to take her sisters back to the palace, which she did. Now, Athena wasn't killed by the boat but she was badly injured and her body sank to the ocean floor, where the sea witch Ursula was. Athena asked is she would help her but, being as crule and hateful towards the royal family as she was, Ursula didn't help the queen. Instead, she used a magic spell to kill the queen and threw a human's net over her body, to make it seem like humans had killed the queen. The sea witch escaped back to her hideout when the king found his wife's body. He buried her under the sea by his castle, and seeing the net caused him to hate humans for he truely believed it was them. Also, knowing she risked her life to save Ariel, the king became very protective of his youngest daughter.
On a sadder but wiser note, Ariel's mother, Queen Athena, was killed at the hands of Captain Hook and his pirate crew when she tried to recover the music box from them. Devastated by his wife's death, Triton had no choice but to ban music from Atlantica . . . permanently.
The story timelines don't hold up: Peter Pan is set around 1906, so Athena would be a young woman in 1906 in Peter Pan, and then have her daughters. BUT, her daughter Ariel (The Little Mermaid) is set around 1840. This would mean Ariel and Eric's story takes place about sixty years before Athena was in Peter Pan and the mermaid lagoon. I might ruin someone's hopes and dreams for this theory, but it's worth pointing out.
Think about it for a minute here, did Disney ever actually give us video of Athena holding newly born Ariel? No, they gave us video of Ariel holding newly born Melody, so the makers of this video had to improvise.
2:35 This couldn't be Athena because her eyes are green, not brown. And there is no proof that this could be her aunt? 3:06 That is Melody, Ariel's daughter, so no. 3:26 Actually, she went to free Attina, her oldest daughter, but died by the pirate ship in the process If you look at the ship Athena got crushed by, and then look at Captain Hook's ship, they look completely different.
Yes I think that Queen Athena was kidnapped and taken to Never Land. I have watched Ariel's Beginnings a couple of times, and it looked like the dark shape shot toward Athena was actually a net. There was never signs of an explosion after that dark shape shot toward Athena.
I am with you on that one. Hook might have taken her . I watched Ariel's beginning i believe I saw Hook's ship . It's a big guess I know , I believe what I see.
"In The Little Mermaid 2: Return To The Sea We Catch A Glimpse Of Queen Athena Holding Her Youngest Daughter Ariel" Well That's Not Queen Athena Holding Ariel it's Ariel Holding Melody,But Maybe It's just a mistake so...
Cant be her mother the little mermaid was set in the 1800s, peter pan was set in the early 1900s. If her mother was a teenager in Peter pan which is set after the little mermaid that destroys the theory already. Smh. Gotta pay attention to the era in which the movies were actually set
@@shaniqueclarke2223 actually they do age the original story Peter would "get rid of" the lost boys once they grew up. Now mermaids are magical creatures so maybe they won't age but yet in still I still stick by my statement. Timelines matter
yashica cuffie timelines do matter but Disney always try to connect the story so it wouldn’t be a surprise. Also as you said mermaids probably do age different
Think about it for a minute here, did Disney ever actually give us video of Athena holding newly born Ariel? No, they gave us video of Ariel holding newly born Melody, so the makers of this video had to improvise.
The only issue I have with this is that Peter Pan is set around WWI and The Little Mermaid is set on the early 1800’s so unless there’s time travel involved this theory is kinda impossible
If u want to know which one of the redheaded mermaids from Peter pan is ariel's mother then just consider their voice because ariel's mother and ariel have a similar, sweet and unique voice
Now that I've watch this video, I hope there would be another movie of "The Little Mermaid" and subtitle it to be "the Search for Queen Athena" it could be a third movie or a fourth movie. I don't know, whichever comes first. But Disney should make this movie so that we can know actually happen to Queen Athena.
Actually in the Little mermaid the musical it says in the script that Ursula was jealous of her brother king triton, but first all of her other sisters( she killed them) and at the end of the musical you find out that Ursula killed Ariel’s mom
In Ariel's Beginning during the pirates and Athena's death scene, Captain Hook might be older, has different crew, and no longer in Neverland after Hook was banished from Neverland in the Peter Pan franchise and Mr. Smee would be already dead in that tragic scene from Ariel's Beginning because he might've died of old age.
About 1 of the red-haired mermaids from "Peter Pan", I kept thinking that the 1 from 2:30 looks like Ariel. But when we meet Ariel's late mother, Queen Athena, I wonder if she looks like the mermaid from that film.
What I think is that Ariel's mom was first in Never land, then Captain Hook kidnapped her and brought her to Atlantica. Then the other mermaids made a deal with Captain Hook that if he brought back queen Athena they would drown one of Peter Pan's friends seeing that Peter brought a girl they tried to drown her but failed, seeing that Captain Hook was watching, they immediately went to hide. But Captain Hook brought back Athena anyway he thought he might as well leave her there
The most plausible theory is the last one. The Little Mermaid is set in the mid-to-late 19th C while Peter Pan is set in 1900. Athena was kidnapped and taken to Neverland where she remained until at least 1900!!!
My personal theory is that Athena got kid napped and sold for gold. Pirates are always searching for gold so they’d get a hell lot for a real living mermaid.
This is true , why hasn't Ariel had the same curse as her mother , you know , changing during midnight?? These are things DISNEY should have addressed by now .
Nice fake story. BUT Ariel mom got killed by a human ship. NOT a pirate's ship. PLUS Capitan Hook lives on Neverland, which is in another universe. Not on Earth, like Ariel. Nice try.
U think you don't understand. Watch aroels beginning and you'll see that ship had pirate flag idiot. And second. No. Pete Pan was made 30 years before little mermaid so it can work. Also it's possible that atlantica abd Neverland are connected and can interact
@ 3:11 That is not Queen Athena holding Ariel, that is Ariel and her daughter Melody in The Little Mermaid 2. I used to babysit a lot and this was constantly on.
In Ariel’s beginning her mother was killed obtaining a music box, a boat crushed her.... there is then a little mermaid 2 where Ariel has a daughter melody! Which is the picture at the beginning of this video... I don’t think you watched all 3 movies before making this video explaining she was in Peter Pan.
I think that, in the live-action/CGI remake of "The Little Mermaid", King Triton (played by Brandon Gleeson) tells Ursula (played by Phyllis Smith) that he lost his wife and he didn't want to loose his daughter (played by Francesca Angelucci Capaldi) too, when he tried to stop her from taking his daughter as prisoner, and he severely tells his daughter what happened to her mother, when he had heard that his daughter fell in love with a person. I had no idea that Ariel's mother could be one of the mermaids from "Peter Pan" nor that she was based on those mermaids.
Oh yes! And I'm suggesting that Francesca Angelucci Capaldi should play Ariel, Noah Schnapp should play Prince Eric, Phyllis Smith should play Ursula and Jamie Foxx should play the Jamaican crab, who has the same name as me.
I don't really know, but, since Disney is releasing three live-action/CGI remakes (Dumbo, Aladdin and The Lion King) next year, it could be coming out the year after next.
What if when queen Athena supposedly died she was captured by the pirates “Captain Hook” but before that happened Ursula put a spell on her that erased her memories so when she went to never land she had no idea how to act and started taking on the traits of the other mermaids which is why she can be very mean
In Descendants 2, Ursula has a daughter. BUT, Ursula was impaled by the ship. So, I'm thinking that Ursula's sister is actually Uma's mother. I don't just a theory I thought of.
Or maybe if Ariel's mother is indeed one of the mermaids from Neverland couldn't it be that she changed when she met Triton became a better merperson.... kind of like Queen Ava from Once Upon a Time...
Sorry but I think the theory isn't possible. I mean the mermaid in Peter Pan has brownish eyes, while Athena has *green eyes* it's practically impossible, unless she'd had a deal with a **clears throat** sea witch to change her eye colors to hide her identity. As for the last theory, I think there's a chance, because I think that the unnamed mermaid is Ariel's great Gramma?
Catian hook was a hook and and Ariel mom was pretty mermaid and under the sea lol 😆🌊 Ariel mom and Ariel was pretty mermaid wait what... Ariel dad was not ok were h e lost the queen but he was mad 👨👧👧👧👧👧👧👧
Yes the 1953 Peter Pan made an easter egg for the 1989 Little Mermaid.... they're just mermaids in a grotto... and have that basic green tail/red hair color combo because they're complimentary colors...
Seriously, I can do ur job WAAAYYYY, LIKE 1,000 Times better than anyone commentating this video! I'd actually tell the damn truth, this vid is worst ever!!!
What if Queen Athena was held captive at the front of Captain Hook’s ship so she can live the rest of her life in anger and regret and heartbreaking turn of events!
3:08 nO THAT’S ARIEL HOLDING HER DAUGHTER MELODY. ATHENA WASN’T EVEN IN THE LITTLE MERMAID II.
Oh my god i cant they are so dumb
no offence the things but IDIOT
amber fitzpatrick yeah!!
If you think about it, Disney never actually gave us any video of Athena holding newly born Ariel, so they had to improvise with video image of Ariel holding newly born Melody.
@@nerinablais6623 i agree want to be frinds
Athena was not going after her music box. First she saved her oldest daughter. She tried to get the music box AFTER that. And that clip at three minutes, is Ariel holding her daughter Melody. Someone please redo this video and get the facts straight first.
They where still right about her going for the music box.... Thats what got her taken....
And in the movie her mpther did cradel Ariel but they didnt show that clip... Your right there
Think about it for a minute here, did Disney ever actually give us video of Athena holding newly born Ariel? No, they gave us video of Ariel holding newly born Melody, so the makers of this video had to improvise.
Ugh, I feel like I'm a recording on repeat right about now. Doesn't anyone realize that with zero footage of Athena holding Ariel as a newborn baby and footage of Ariel holding Melody as a newborn baby that improvisation is a must? Also, scientifically speaking, it's possible for a baby to start out with black hair before it turns red. For example, when I was a newborn baby, I didn't have hair, but as I got older I got hair. It started out black, then it lightened up and became blonde, and I mean almost platinum blonde. I'm sure that scientists can explain how someone's hair starts out black and lightens to being red better than I can though.
Diamond Rose Preach! These facts are so dumb. I bet they didn't have a video plan and quickly made this in 30 minutes
(sorry for being mean it's just The little mermaid movies are my favorite)
Nerina Blais Actually, Disney did give us a clip. Watch The Little Mermaid : Ariel's Beginning up until Queen Athena's "death scene"
@@sweetybee77 I have seen it, and there's no footage of Ariel as a newborn baby. That's the point of my above comment, we have video of Ariel as being 4 or 5 years old, but she's not a newborn baby. No video of Ariel as a newborn baby means they had to improvise with video of Ariel holding Melody as a newborn baby, which again was my point. Ariel's Begging doesn't show us Ariel as a newborn baby but it does show us Ariel as a preschool age child.
That would be freaking amazing if there's a movie where Ariel, Melody, Eric, Triton, Sebastian and Flounder go on a mission to save queen Athena and reveal all the truth!!!
Um no, that would ruin the series for many other fans...
Do really think that?
Yes, it may sound like a cool idea but Disney sequels usually don't do too well, and others may not agree it's a good idea.
That's to bad ☹️
Josue Cepero y
“In the little Mermaid 2 we catch a glimpse of Athena cradling her youngest daughter”
You kidding right?
That’s Ariel’s daughter how dumb do you think we are ....
Ikr
Not trying to be mean at the same time I am
The things
Whoever did the research is a total _IDIOT_
@@simbot7981 i hate the things
The thing about Athena "living a double life" is ridiculous. The whole thing sadly is. Take into account the fact that if Athena was among the mermaids in Neverland, it was when she was seemingly quite young because those mermaids are depicted as very young, not much older than the children. Children and teenagers can be blunt, misbehaving and misguided, especially in a place absent of most adults (don't even get me started on Peter himself). Let's not forget that mermaids are NOT HUMAN and don't have to have the same ethics as humans, and there is no such thing as a person who is entirely good or entirely evil based on their actions, even in fiction. The mermaids were jealous on top of that and might have been at least half joking. The apparent age of the mermaid rules out the idea of Athena having been taken to Neverland afterwards, but if she left Neverland and went to Atlantica then the time periods are in the wrong order which makes no sense. Peter Pan is set later than The Little Mermaid.
Also there's a high chance that while they were practising mermaids in Peter Pan, the creators didn't leave any on-purpose cameos mermaid wise. Not only did they not know they were going to make that movie for decades, but originally Ariel was going to be BLONDE. The reason she got red hair in the end was because of the release of Splash around the same time featuring a blonde mermaid. Ariel's Beginning was released literal decades later too and only at that point had they fully decided to make it that Athena looked so similar to Ariel, as originally she was a barely mentioned let alone shown character. And to top it all off, while it was as obvious as they could manage that the ship crashed, the reason we didn't see Athena getting killed in Ariel's Beginning was because it is a family-friendly Disney movie in which they can't really get away with a lot of onscreen violent death and would have a hard time otherwise showing this mermaid getting literally crushed to death! Sorry to break down this theory, it's just there's too many holes in it.
Splash came out 5 years before the Little Mermaid
*sees a redhead*
YEP THEYRE RELATED TO ARIEL
wait that means all Weasleys are Ariel’s relatives??
😂 Weasley have Ginger hair
I know
@@thegoofyahh6453 I never said u didn't
@Briar Curtis I wasn't talking to u
Lol
I don't think any of the two redheaded mermaids from Peter Pan are Ariel's mother Athena. And the reasons why none of them is Athena are because 1) Athena had green eyes, while the two redheaded mermaids had brown eyes, 2) The tails/fins to the redheaded meraids from Peter Pan had a lighter shade of aqua blue, while Athena had aqua blue (Aqua).
Btw was I the only one who heared her say Windy instead of Wendy when she said Wendy's name or did I just imagine it and she did say Wendy's name right?
(Sorry for my bad English)
It's ok for your bad english-sorry if I spelled it rong-but you have a point on what you said (how long did it take to tipe it an hour+please answer me back)
I think it took like 10-15 maybe 20 minutes to type.. I'm not quite sure
And... The red is not right :)
Maybe it was Athena younger and she could change color in her hair and tail because now she is older
Yeah that's true.. but she can't change her eye color. If one of the redheaded mermaids from Peter Pan had green eyes then it could have been possible that it was Ariel's mother Athena when she was younger but they both had brown eyes.
Queen Athena and king Triton were best friends since they were children . When they were adults they fell in love and shared a song( endlessly sky) and when Athena had all of her children she sang endless sky into a lullaby for them.
On Athena and Triton anniversary Triton gave her the music box...but the pirate ship came and tho they were only there for the treasure Athena had to stay and help Attina (her oldest daughter) get her fin out of a rock but after that she realised she lost her music box so she looked for it...as soon as she saw it she tried to get it but the pirates threw the hook and Athena had to avoid getting caught so she swam away from the rock King Triton called her name and she looked down but she couldn't go without her music box so she swam back to the rock... unfortunately the pirates lost control of the ship and to get it back in control they tried everything but instead of controlling it they made it speed up and unfortunately Athena couldn't swim in the water so she sacrificed herself in order for her family to be safe
(I think)
"We catch a glimpse of Queen Athena holding her youngest daughter Ariel"
BOI IF U DON'T GET
Intrest in MATERIAL THINGS?! That was a gift from her HUSBAND, what the
hell? What do you have against Queen Athena? It’s Disney canon, she is a GOOD person.
In Peter Pan, the mermaids at the mermaid lagoon have a big resemblance with Ariel. When Athena was attacked by pirates, they could have meant Hook and Smee
How could Queen Athena have gotten to Neverland in the first place when you have to fly to get there?
There's an underground route.
Or Peter Pan picked her up took to neverland for a while and then took her back
its possible her and Peter were friends
the ocean is connected everywhere
But they are mermaids they siwm
if you look closely you can see the iconic hook in the hair of the red headed mermaid with her hair tied up that fits the description of both Ariel's and Athena's hair during one of the peter pan scenes.
The hair being tied up in her mermaid form is our biggest give away as Athena's hair is tied up both in Neverland and Atlantica just like how Ariel's hair is always down in The Little Mermaid and when it undoes when King Triton changes Ariel back to her mermaid form in Return to the Sea
Did you know that Ariel is the granddaughter of Poseidon and Amphitrite? Their son was Triton who was the first half-man half-fish. The same King Triton in the movie. Poseidon also wielded a trident, which King Triton also has.
see now that is a cool fact!
Aphrodite is the daughter of Ouranos, God of the sky. She is the goddess of love and beauty, wife of Hephaestus, God of the forge and one of the Olympians. Amphitrite is a sea goddess and wife of Poseidon.
@@BardofHorror36 wait isn't Aphrodite Zeus' daughter?!
@@beberivera7011 In one of the newer versions yes. But in the original myth she wasn't. She was born when Chronos killed Ouronos. He threw the genitals over the land and sea and the dripping blood birthed many deities. Aphrodite was born from sea foam. She resided on an island until after the Titan war.
I knew that. And Ariel and Hercules are cousins
Well in the Broadway version of the little mermaid it was told that her mother was killed by Ursula
(Lines from the script)
Ursula: even made you think that humans murdered your mother!
Ariel: if humans didn't kill her... Who did?
Triton: it was YOU wasn't it!?
Ursula: *theatrically* who moi? I couldn't hurt a minnow!
In regards to the final theory speculating she could still be alive, albeit trapped somewhere in Neverland, I would love for her to come back & reunite with her family! It also makes me think of if this theory was canon in the Descendants universe.
Do you recall in the first Descendants movie where Queen Leah, Aurora's mother & Audrey's grandmother, meets Mal and snaps at her? This was due to her grief over missing Aurora's childhood, which she wrongfully blames Mal for, since she is Maleficent's daughter.
While you were explaining the last theory, I recalled when you had earlier speculated that Athena could have had a crueler side to her, and I imagined that same scene, but with (a nicer?) Harry instead of Mal, and Athena instead of Leah. Then again, I'm.. not quite sure how they would have that conversation, given that Athena doesn't have legs, but I suppose they could be near a shoreline of some sort?
Sadly, Disney is bad about showing the truth about how some parents just plain don't come back from the grave. I like the idea, it's how I grew up, seeing truths about losses. And Disney helped.
Love that theory i have one to add on to yours harry hook has a connection to the sea as this is him being the son of a pirate.
Queen athena could have rushed away from the ship but the current pushed her towards the desendants francise.
Knowing this info queen athena might have been bippity-boppity- boo'd by fairy god mother to have grown a pair of legs
And could be living amongst the descentdants people. Ariel may have her mothers personality as well you never know we could have a easter egg somewhere.
Ursela has never shown her face to the camera all we saw was a tentecal, we never saw captain hook either so knowing that athena could be in hiding from ursela and hook which may explain why we never saw them? For example queen athena supposedly got "killed" by a ship. So that may have been hooks ship sailing over to the isle of the lost after being banished.
Athenas tail might have gotten caught in the ship and then washed up on shore. Because ariel and athena are mother and daughter she could be as naive as ariel therefore she may have been frightened by the human world. So she may be alive what i am saying is she could be alive and in hiding or captured maybe safe with a desguised look as a teacher nobody knows athenas last name so with a new look athena could be teaching at auradon prep!
Thats my theory in connect to yours put that together you got yourself some headcannon!
Actually in a straight to DVD sequel it shows how she died and what happened with king Triton and how he reacts and how she meets flounder its called the little mermaid Ariel’s beginning
Sorry
@@allieedg um yeah, they mention that movie in this video several times. Just trying to get some backstory behind it.
mrmusiclover87 sorry realized that later just to lazy to fix comment I didn’t even finish the video once they said it was her mom holding Ariel instead of Ariel holding melody I was sooooooo done
3:08 it’s Ariel holding Melody the baby has black hair and it’s on the surface do your research your not professional
I call BS!!! Airel's mother couldn't be in Neverland, here's the reason, Neverland is a island in the SKY!!!!!! the ocean where Ariel grew up is not in the Sky (the next star to the right and what ever) besides the neverland mermaids look nothing like Ariel mermaids!!!
Airel's father didn't hate just pirates, he hated all humans, and how could Airel get her love of human objects from her mother? Her mother died when she was young!
And Captain Hook didn't hate mermaids, he hated Peter Pan and the lost boys! There are so many things wrong with what you are saying.
Dont forget that crocodile... 😂
Remember this is disney! Details don't matter if it means they are all connected (being sarcastic). But seriously Young Athena having been to Neverland makes sense we've seen both Hook and Pan travel back and forth from the "real world" to Neverland why couldn't Athena. Especially when you remember that Ursula was once a part of Atlantica but was shunned by Triton later on, why couldn't young Athena have asked Ursula for help in leaving Atlantica to see far way places where she could be close to Humans? If you want to get technical about it, Young Triton fell in love with Athena but she didn't return his love because she wanted to explore the humans world (sound familiar? Ariel) so she asked Ursula for help and when Triton found out he was mad and shunned Ursula. When Athena got to Neverland she didn't like how the other mermaids acted (who knows maybe those specific mermaids were a trouble making gang because if you notice all those mermaids have the same color tail; maybe they were a prejudiced, troublemaking mermaid gang) and maybe the fact that the mermaids turned evil at night could have been a curse put on all mermaids in Neverland ( we know Neverland isn't all sunshine and rainbows!). thats where she met Hook, something happened (bad influences) that left Hook with a poor taste in his mouth for mermaids. Athena comes Back to Atlantica and ends up marrying Triton, they have kids and Ariel is the last to be born (but has her mothers spirit of adventure and curiosity). Years go by and for some reason Hook is in Denmark (supposed setting for the little mermaid) maybe looting and (and taking a break from the jerk that is Peter Pan!) spots a familiar mermaid (Athena) and decides to take revenge. Athena is killed by Hook, a HUMAN pirate which leaves Triton with hate for all Humans because they took his love twice, the later having killed her. And now wants to protect Ariel from them. I just impressed myself!! Also the fact that Athena would have a lighter colored tail when she was young would make sense too if it meant that all mermaids tails change color (darken or lighten) as they get older, same with humans (Baby's eye color, our hair color dulls as well as our eyes as we get older too).
@@tangi.realest887 yeah a d the croc!! And octopus
@@maureeng.9749 Thank you for this! Seriously! I love this theory so much.
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In one of the sequals of Aladdin, it shows a huge amount of treasure and a boat there to. There is a mermaid plastered on the front of the boat. That mermaid looks very similar to ariel and her mom. That mermaid tries to catch however tries to get the treasure. What if that was captain hook's boat and treasure. He could have plastered ariel's mom there to protect the treasure.
Ariel's mom in Peter Pan's Neverland??? That's a good theory since there WERE mermaids in the Peter Pan movie.
I think it was her but when she was younger. Like before she met King Trident. The mermaids in Peter Pan look about 15, 16 years old. So maybe it was her mom when she was younger.
RionahPlayz And let me guess: URSULA killed her.
@Joshua Lowe you’re completely wrong,did you see the movie? Sorry if I’m being rude,but one of Ariel’s sister got her tail stuck and Ariel’s mother have to save her and when the sister was free Ariel’s mother got crushed by pirates :’(
@@sunhopii8534 r/whoosh. They were being sarcastic. We don't actually don't know if she did get crushed. It never showed (of course ot didn't) so Disney can all of sudden pop in and say "Oh look! She only got kiddnaped!"
@@sunhopii8534 captain hook killed her
Now we all see why King Triton hated humans. Dude lost his beloved wife Queen Athena.
Athena having a double life? What a stretch
Not much as double life, rather a past sin.
If she once belonged to that group of Mermaids, she drowned some of them in turn of moon.
She realised her mistake when she met triton but captain hook didn't forget what she did so it's sensible to him to exact revenge against her
Is Athena Ariel's mom?
I have my own Little Mermaid theroy about what happened to Ariel's mom, now it may sound a little crazy so brace yourselves:
My idea is, a 3-4 year old Ariel, her older sisters, and her parents were playing with each other at the surface in a little pool with rocks. Ariel was swiming around, trying to keep up with her older sisters when something caught her eyes. Athena asked her little daughter what she was looking at and Ariel pointed to a pirate ship coming their way. The pirates on the ship were looking for mermaids and were coming to get the family. Triton told his wife and daughters to get under water as fast as they could. They listened and hurried under water.
Athena counted her daughters to make sure they were all there, but one was missing. It turns out, Ariel had left her favorite doll on a rock at the surface and went to get it back. Once the little mermaid got her doll, she caught another look at the ship and her curious heart began to wonder about how big the ship was and how it worked.
She began swiming closer to it when Athena came up and got her daughter away from the ship. Only problem was, not seeing where they were, the two were now cornered by a large rock. The ship was getting closer and closer, then Athena got and idea, she had just enough time to get Ariel away from the ship and to safety. She hugged her little daughter and gave her one last kiss before, gentely, throwing her as far as she could, getting hit by the boat herself. Ariel landed in the water and was caught by Triton. However, he wanted to see where his wife was so he handed Ariel to his oldest daughter Attina, and told her to take her sisters back to the palace, which she did.
Now, Athena wasn't killed by the boat but she was badly injured and her body sank to the ocean floor, where the sea witch Ursula was. Athena asked is she would help her but, being as crule and hateful towards the royal family as she was, Ursula didn't help the queen. Instead, she used a magic spell to kill the queen and threw a human's net over her body, to make it seem like humans had killed the queen. The sea witch escaped back to her hideout when the king found his wife's body. He buried her under the sea by his castle, and seeing the net caused him to hate humans for he truely believed it was them. Also, knowing she risked her life to save Ariel, the king became very protective of his youngest daughter.
I think that is genius
@@elamoon223 Thank you.
On a sadder but wiser note, Ariel's mother, Queen Athena, was killed at the hands of Captain Hook and his pirate crew when she tried to recover the music box from them. Devastated by his wife's death, Triton had no choice but to ban music from Atlantica . . . permanently.
The story timelines don't hold up: Peter Pan is set around 1906, so Athena would be a young woman in 1906 in Peter Pan, and then have her daughters. BUT, her daughter Ariel (The Little Mermaid) is set around 1840. This would mean Ariel and Eric's story takes place about sixty years before Athena was in Peter Pan and the mermaid lagoon. I might ruin someone's hopes and dreams for this theory, but it's worth pointing out.
3:06
No thats not mother of ariel
Thats her daughter
P.S. (they just want likes)
Think about it for a minute here, did Disney ever actually give us video of Athena holding newly born Ariel? No, they gave us video of Ariel holding newly born Melody, so the makers of this video had to improvise.
*Hook killed Queen Athena?!* That would explain the pirate's Ship in the Little mermaid's first movie.
It's explained in Ariel #3 she got killed by humans !!!
Yes but you can see her fin for a brief moment
And in was kinda moving
Ooooh
That’s dark 😳
Theres a ariel 3?
2:35 This couldn't be Athena because her eyes are green, not brown. And there is no proof that this could be her aunt?
3:06 That is Melody, Ariel's daughter, so no.
3:26 Actually, she went to free Attina, her oldest daughter, but died by the pirate ship in the process
If you look at the ship Athena got crushed by, and then look at Captain Hook's ship, they look completely different.
Yes I think that Queen Athena was kidnapped and taken to Never Land. I have watched Ariel's Beginnings a couple of times, and it looked like the dark shape shot toward Athena was actually a net. There was never signs of an explosion after that dark shape shot toward Athena.
I am with you on that one. Hook might have taken her . I watched Ariel's beginning i believe I saw Hook's ship . It's a big guess I know , I believe what I see.
The "facts" in this video hurts my soul...
Same me a big Disney fan (^^)
Oh really
They are theories not facts
"In The Little Mermaid 2: Return To The Sea We Catch A Glimpse Of Queen Athena Holding Her Youngest Daughter Ariel" Well That's Not Queen Athena Holding Ariel it's Ariel Holding Melody,But Maybe It's just a mistake so...
In return to the sea, that wasn’t athena holding ariel, that was ariel holding her daughter melody.
No ariel's mom ( athena) was killed by pirates she was stuck And then she wanna save her music box but she died of The boat of pirates
OMG I JUST REALIZED EVEN ANASTASIA HAD A MUSIC BOX AND SHE LOOKS LIEK AREL
Cant be her mother the little mermaid was set in the 1800s, peter pan was set in the early 1900s. If her mother was a teenager in Peter pan which is set after the little mermaid that destroys the theory already. Smh. Gotta pay attention to the era in which the movies were actually set
yashica cuffie but no one age in never land so it is possible
@@shaniqueclarke2223 actually they do age the original story Peter would "get rid of" the lost boys once they grew up. Now mermaids are magical creatures so maybe they won't age but yet in still I still stick by my statement. Timelines matter
yashica cuffie timelines do matter but Disney always try to connect the story so it wouldn’t be a surprise. Also as you said mermaids probably do age different
@@shaniqueclarke2223 her mother was killed by captin hook
@@darrellaustin6269 indeed
Athena was probably just scared of the humans and she wanted to save herself
Maybe but her face didn’t look like she wanted to do that
No, that is Ariel. And her daughter, Melody.
Think about it for a minute here, did Disney ever actually give us video of Athena holding newly born Ariel? No, they gave us video of Ariel holding newly born Melody, so the makers of this video had to improvise.
3:08 that baby us melody. Arial is holding her daughter melody. OMG how can u not see that😠
Many English and non-English versions have become ghosts in every ending, but only 6 versions were married in a happy ending
The only issue I have with this is that Peter Pan is set around WWI and The Little Mermaid is set on the early 1800’s so unless there’s time travel involved this theory is kinda impossible
If u want to know which one of the redheaded mermaids from Peter pan is ariel's mother then just consider their voice because ariel's mother and ariel have a similar, sweet and unique voice
I don't think the Queen was evil but she was mad that she was taken away from her family. So she thought that Wendy was like a pirite so she atacked.
I think that Ursula was her mom but then then she killed/hurt one of the kids and Ariel’s dad kicked her out she only wants revenge
Did anyone else think captain cook was Ariel’s mum when they clicked on it !
Excuse me? Captain Cook?😂
I thought they were going to say Hook and Athena were lovers...
To make a long story short: Queen Athena was killed by Captain Hook and his pirate crew, fueling Triton's animosity toward humans.
Now that I've watch this video, I hope there would be another movie of "The Little Mermaid" and subtitle it to be "the Search for Queen Athena" it could be a third movie or a fourth movie. I don't know, whichever comes first. But Disney should make this movie so that we can know actually happen to Queen Athena.
Ariel: But dad i don't want fins!
Triton: Sweetheart you were MERmade for this.
Flounder: I wish you would stop MERmaking puns.
I was sure all the sisters had different mothers, one from each of the seven seas. I haven't seen any of the other Little Mermaid films, though.
Actually in the Little mermaid the musical it says in the script that Ursula was jealous of her brother king triton, but first all of her other sisters( she killed them) and at the end of the musical you find out that Ursula killed Ariel’s mom
3:08 _DUDE! THAT'S NOT BABY ARIEL AND QUEEN ATHENA! SINCE WHEN DID ARIEL'S HAIR TURNED BLACK?? oh, and that's baby Melody--_
In Ariel's Beginning during the pirates and Athena's death scene, Captain Hook might be older, has different crew, and no longer in Neverland after Hook was banished from Neverland in the Peter Pan franchise and Mr. Smee would be already dead in that tragic scene from Ariel's Beginning because he might've died of old age.
Can you talk about Nemo’s mom next?
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Q-Queen A-Athena?
*Greek Mythology side fights with Disney Fan*
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About 1 of the red-haired mermaids from "Peter Pan", I kept thinking that the 1 from 2:30 looks like Ariel.
But when we meet Ariel's late mother, Queen Athena, I wonder if she looks like the mermaid from that film.
At 3:08 it's not Ariel's mom holding Ariel it's ARIEL herself hold her daughter MELODY
What I think is that Ariel's mom was first in Never land, then Captain Hook kidnapped her and brought her to Atlantica. Then the other mermaids made a deal with Captain Hook that if he brought back queen Athena they would drown one of Peter Pan's friends seeing that Peter brought a girl they tried to drown her but failed, seeing that Captain Hook was watching, they immediately went to hide. But Captain Hook brought back Athena anyway he thought he might as well leave her there
In the movie The Little Mermaid 2: Return To The Sea, it is actually Ariel holding her daughter Melody
The most plausible theory is the last one. The Little Mermaid is set in the mid-to-late 19th C while Peter Pan is set in 1900. Athena was kidnapped and taken to Neverland where she remained until at least 1900!!!
A thing i know about mermaids is when mermaids did enough good deeds they earn a soul and if they didnt do enough good deeds they become sea foam
I don't normally fall for theories or Easter Eggs. But this one makes sense. Not to mention this one is in further detail than most of them.
I want to see Melody heading to Netherland rescuing her grandmother with the help some help of course.
Ariel's mom was beautiful!
"It'S a DingGlE-hOpPeR"
**starts choking air**
My personal theory is that Athena got kid napped and sold for gold. Pirates are always searching for gold so they’d get a hell lot for a real living mermaid.
Why do all Disney princesses mom's have to die 😰
We'll almost all of them 😁
Vivian Coleman The mothers all die because Walt Disney lost his mom when he was very young.
They all die because walt Disney's mom died when he was young, so he didn't put moms in the Disney movie's
@@simonettegirlz759 No he was a grown man. Plus his mom lived till she was 70 and Walt lived until he was 68.
With the time frame between Peter Pan and now, I would think it might be more likely for Melody to rescue Athena
This is true , why hasn't Ariel had the same curse as her mother , you know , changing during midnight?? These are things DISNEY should have addressed by now .
Huh?
Thank you for the videos
Nice fake story.
BUT Ariel mom got killed by a human ship. NOT a pirate's ship. PLUS Capitan Hook lives on Neverland, which is in another universe. Not on Earth, like Ariel.
Nice try.
Or the fact that the Little Mermaid takes place before Peter Pan does.
U think you don't understand. Watch aroels beginning and you'll see that ship had pirate flag idiot.
And second. No. Pete Pan was made 30 years before little mermaid so it can work.
Also it's possible that atlantica abd Neverland are connected and can interact
@ 3:11 That is not Queen Athena holding Ariel, that is Ariel and her daughter Melody in The Little Mermaid 2. I used to babysit a lot and this was constantly on.
Athena was the Greek goddess of War and Wisdom and she is immuned to Love
In Ariel’s beginning her mother was killed obtaining a music box, a boat crushed her.... there is then a little mermaid 2 where Ariel has a daughter melody! Which is the picture at the beginning of this video... I don’t think you watched all 3 movies before making this video explaining she was in Peter Pan.
I think they noticed afterwards.
Still the rest is interesting
You can also see that the Queen Athena's name can also derived from Goddess Athena of Greek Mythology ,Goddess of Wisdom.You all are awesome
I don't think King Triton knew what a pirate was , he probably didn't spend time learning about different kinds of humans.
But Little Mermaid takes place BEFORE Peter Pan? The timeline of these theories don’t add up
Thank you!!!! I am so glad that I wasn't the only one who noticed that. Lol
Are you all stupid or something....? Time works differently in Neverland
I think that, in the live-action/CGI remake of "The Little Mermaid", King Triton (played by Brandon Gleeson) tells Ursula (played by Phyllis Smith) that he lost his wife and he didn't want to loose his daughter (played by Francesca Angelucci Capaldi) too, when he tried to stop her from taking his daughter as prisoner, and he severely tells his daughter what happened to her mother, when he had heard that his daughter fell in love with a person. I had no idea that Ariel's mother could be one of the mermaids from "Peter Pan" nor that she was based on those mermaids.
Oh yes! And I'm suggesting that Francesca Angelucci Capaldi should play Ariel, Noah Schnapp should play Prince Eric, Phyllis Smith should play Ursula and Jamie Foxx should play the Jamaican crab, who has the same name as me.
I don't really know, but, since Disney is releasing three live-action/CGI remakes (Dumbo, Aladdin and The Lion King) next year, it could be coming out the year after next.
Wait do you think that Ursula is pregnant I mean she could just be fat but she's pretty big😏🤔
That's not really possible because why would she try to destroy a ship while pregnant
How do you explain Descendants 2 then? Uma is the daughter of Ursula.....
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Ariel’s mum is not holding ariel! Ariel is holding melody
HOW DO MERMAIDS GIVE BIRTH THOUGH?
3:08 Actually, that's Ariel holding her daughter Melody.
*Sips tea*
That’s not Athena that’s Ariel and her daughter
Also Ariel loves those objects is because she’s a curious girl and has a fascination with humans
3:08 NOW! You're Just making stuff up to us to believe in
What if when queen Athena supposedly died she was captured by the pirates “Captain Hook” but before that happened Ursula put a spell on her that erased her memories so when she went to never land she had no idea how to act and started taking on the traits of the other mermaids which is why she can be very mean
Wait a mintue the little mermaid takes place in the 18th or early 19th century and Peter Pan takes place in 1904 how could Athena be in Peter pan?
The 18th century means the 1700s- the nineteenth century refers to the 1800s... Kinda how like 20th century fox is from the 1900s
Athena could've belonged to the mermaid group in Neverland. And left afterwards. Before events of Peter Pan but not before she angered hook
In Descendants 2, Ursula has a daughter. BUT, Ursula was impaled by the ship. So, I'm thinking that Ursula's sister is actually Uma's mother. I don't just a theory I thought of.
_And before you do some theories, please watch the movies!_
Or maybe if Ariel's mother is indeed one of the mermaids from Neverland couldn't it be that she changed when she met Triton became a better merperson.... kind of like Queen Ava from Once Upon a Time...
OMG yes, when I learned the true history behind Cora and Eva everything just made more sense.
Sorry but I think the theory isn't possible. I mean the mermaid in Peter Pan has brownish eyes, while Athena has *green eyes* it's practically impossible, unless she'd had a deal with a **clears throat** sea witch to change her eye colors to hide her identity.
As for the last theory, I think there's a chance, because I think that the unnamed mermaid is Ariel's great Gramma?
Instead of the truth about Ariel’s mother it’s the LIE about Ariel’s mother. Lol
This is not a lie, just because they mistook one scene doesn't mean everything else was wrong.
Amazing theories :)
Catian hook was a hook and and Ariel mom was pretty mermaid and under the sea lol 😆🌊 Ariel mom and Ariel was pretty mermaid wait what... Ariel dad was not ok were h e lost the queen but he was mad
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Randy Albright ...what?
I'm so confused as to what I just realized read.
You are really bad at writing aren't you
.........huh???????
3:08 you say experts??? THAT MELODY OMG HERE WE GO AGAIN
King Triton is a Merman, not a Mermaid. Mermaids (or Mermaidens) are women and girls, Merman (or Mermen) are obviously men. Get your knowledge right.
Yes the 1953 Peter Pan made an easter egg for the 1989 Little Mermaid.... they're just mermaids in a grotto... and have that basic green tail/red hair color combo because they're complimentary colors...
Sometimes easter eggs are more than that you know?
Seriously, I can do ur job WAAAYYYY, LIKE 1,000 Times better than anyone commentating this video! I'd actually tell the damn truth, this vid is worst ever!!!
What if Queen Athena was held captive at the front of Captain Hook’s ship so she can live the rest of her life in anger and regret and heartbreaking turn of events!
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yes that is true
Gunnar Loho ??
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So down for this theory to come!💜❤💜