I can't believe some of these guys claim they could change 27 holes and move t markers in 2 hours. I was in the business 35 years, assistant superintendent at 3 clubs.. ABSOLUTELY NO WAY!!!!
I like it....takes pride in his work and does it right the first time. I'm sure day to day he's a lot quicker. You don't get a second chance to make a first impression....especially at the Memorial!
I would be pulling my eyes out working with this fella. Nice job mate but get a jiggy on will ya, 17 more to change and you want to get in before night fall.
Definitely different standards and time taken. I cut 36 holes in about 4 hours, including pitchmark repairs as I go, patching bunkers and moving tee markers.
It all depends on the course especially the layout. I could cut all 18 holes in 1 hour but it was wide open with a lot greens close to each other. That's no tee markers or divots because it was a private course with 5,000 rounds max a year. At my course I'm superintendent for now another private course it takes a lot longer. I Still only have them do only pins and divots unless we mow tees that's day. People who change tees also do water coolers and trash since I gave a large grounds crew. They fill divots on tees and on the range as well.
no way the guy below me changes 27 holes in 2 hours and they look that good like in the video. I been doing this for 15 years and nobodys that fast while doing a professional job
Skinnyd I worked at a public course, took pride in my pin placements and it took me about 90 mins to do 18 holes. Didn't paint the edges though. That 90 mins also included setting tees as well.
Everyone is giving out about how long it takes him, did anyone stop to think maybe he took so long because he was recorded and wanted to be seen doing the job correctly?
I cant knock the lad he shows good attention to detail, but for the love of god.. It amazes me i have worked at 3 top courses and the best greenkeepers seem to have a little OCD, i think you need it in this job.
As soon as this popped up I knew it was 11 at Muirfield Village. I used to attend the Memorial every year back when Tiger was in his hayday. God it was so fun watching him tear this course a new asshole.
I've moved white Tee markers and changed 18 cups in 55 minutes, Greens cut @ 1/8th inch. I've also spent 3 days plugging out somebody else's low and scalped plugs, plus ball marks. in prep for a Long Island Amateur. Proly over 230 plugs.
No u can’t rush ur right u can only pressure them to go fast as soon as we start at 5:30 an stay ahead of play no matter wat an you better not mess up or u gonna chewed an there gonna say why did u go so fast u know that’s all
@@bryanrowan3564 what a luxury, we had about 30 mins before they set the hounds out on us. cup changer had to finish blowing off greens and changing cups and moving the tees on the back 9 before the mower got to the back nine.
A cup setter is used for setting the cup at the recommended USGA depth. Is it not? The why does he seemingly lower it by slamming the flagstick in several times?
He’s doing it so the flag stood straighter lol. The guy next to him is telling him if you twist the cup setter you don’t have to worry about it. I used to do this first thing every morning for almost two years. If the superintendent caught anyone doing this he would chew them out pretty hard lol.
@@CoolPajamaPants hey, I change holes too and since I watched this tried the method of hitting the flag stick in front of my super and he didn’t say anything lol. Can u tag when the guy said if he twisted the cup setter he wouldn’t have to worry about it
Since everyone likes to brag on how much they have done in a day. I'll just join in. I have cut 21 greens, cut all tee decks and fringes and changed 27 pins on those 21 greens. All in 7 1/2 hours. No short cuts all looked top notch.
Consistent depth is vital to avoid time spent leveling a plug. A lot of courses use shitty, twist type cutters, like from R&R (with no depth gauge) and they're probably in need of sharpening. I have seen supers have a shelf full of old cutters because they buy new cutters (cheaper) rather than buying a sharpener for the ones they have. It's kind of pathetic what some supers deal with as far as budgets are concerned... A sharp pound-in cutter is always better. There is much less room for error and it requires less effort to use. Also, the assistant here gives the guy a little bit of shit because he didn't twist the cup setter before removing it.
I've wondered the same thing. I personally like the natural look, but from what I've beem told, its more of a preference the PGA has. Wherever the tournament is, the PGA has rights to go in and tell the superintendent how to take care of the care (i.e green speed and grass height). If the PGA wants a white cup all aound, they will get it, no questions asked.
@@wornslick just start from the beginning straight up and down, only twist once you've hit bottom to release tension and prevent soil from falling out of the cutter..goog luck!!
That's a HiO cup cutter. They're very heavy but good results. No cutter is perfect. They all seems to go crazy after a lot of use. I used the Tacit which is very good but not easy to use. User-friendly seems to be lost on the designers.
Nobody should step within 2' of the hole. That is Holy ground, no pun intended. The hole changing process needs to be updated to the 21th century. We can do better, we must do better.
This is at Muirfield Village for the Memorial Tournament. Jack knows how to do it up for sure. I guess you cutting holes at the local muni doesn't require sharp edges.
I would’ve had 12 and been On my way to 13 in the time it took him to do #11. You don’t pull the old cup first, you cut the new hole then go get the cup.
Albino Raichu this guy is the superintendent of Torrey Pines now. slow and steady wins the race when everything you work for is about to be put on show for the world
Alot of players like it better whit the paint some dont Im in charge of golf set up for out upcoming pga championship in march 1..but this guys takes way to long to change a flag i understand yes it has yo look good but wow too long
oof, at the golf course i worked at, you would have been trampled by the golfers at hole 6 going that slow. we had speeding koreans as our first golfers every day. they always had to beat the crowd but could play 18 holes in 2 hours or less.
I can't believe some of these guys claim they could change 27 holes and move t markers in 2 hours. I was in the business 35 years, assistant superintendent at 3 clubs.. ABSOLUTELY NO WAY!!!!
I change 33 holes and markers in 1,5 haurs
You think this guy wants to blow his brains out, changing cups is much more glamorous than being on the bunker crew.
Check out those guys in the back meticulously hand raking the bunker,the detail for Tour prep is pretty amazing.
Meticulous work! Bravo! You can tell they really care about every detail and doing it right.
pretty poinless rolling a hole core when i bet there gonna be rolled
I like it....takes pride in his work and does it right the first time. I'm sure day to day he's a lot quicker. You don't get a second chance to make a first impression....especially at the Memorial!
I wish it was a rule that all clubs had to do the white paint routine! Makes it so much more professional.
+Stuart Campbell It takes longer to do... thus costing the club more money.
+Stuart Campbell I think white around the cup is for the benefit for the TV audience. I worked at a club and would only paint holes if televised.
My home club paints, makes a world of difference when putting from a distance.
Naa it takes more time and if you bugger it up makes it look way worse it’s all done for the camera not for looks
Ok, how do you do it when no one watches?
LOL
......in half the time 😏
Xtreme Performance hell yea the gm out there golfing! He sees everything!
Was in the business 35 years, still miss it
I would be pulling my eyes out working with this fella. Nice job mate but get a jiggy on will ya, 17 more to change and you want to get in before night fall.
Definitely different standards and time taken. I cut 36 holes in about 4 hours, including pitchmark repairs as I go, patching bunkers and moving tee markers.
It all depends on the course especially the layout. I could cut all 18 holes in 1 hour but it was wide open with a lot greens close to each other. That's no tee markers or divots because it was a private course with 5,000 rounds max a year. At my course I'm superintendent for now another private course it takes a lot longer. I Still only have them do only pins and divots unless we mow tees that's day. People who change tees also do water coolers and trash since I gave a large grounds crew. They fill divots on tees and on the range as well.
WHICH CAME FIRST THE PLUG OR THE HOLE?
Hole
no way the guy below me changes 27 holes in 2 hours and they look that good like in the video. I been doing this for 15 years and nobodys that fast while doing a professional job
Skinnyd I worked at a public course, took pride in my pin placements and it took me about 90 mins to do 18 holes. Didn't paint the edges though. That 90 mins also included setting tees as well.
Roger that, the service guy is always behind the greens mower, no fucking way you can change 27 holes in 2 hours...NO WAY!!
Good! Congratulations from Brazil, love golf!
Everyone is giving out about how long it takes him, did anyone stop to think maybe he took so long because he was recorded and wanted to be seen doing the job correctly?
It’s also for tour gameplay and must be done at a much higher level than normal
Rich! The guy cutting cups in this video is now the superintendent at Torrey Pines in California. Very smart guy.
I'll Admit he did take a little bit longer but Im sure that because he was being recorded, he still did a perfect job.
Thats about right. 1 hour per 18. But are you also moving tee markers ?
nice job, we have the same hole cutters at shinnecock but we dont use the paint
We used to mow greens and change cups at the same time
I used to change cups while mowing the greens! lol
yea, we had 3 guys go out, 1 changing cups and blowing off greens, one mowing, one coming behind mower and putting everything back while moving tees.
Sure you can. Not counting the painting. I do it all the time and on non sand spec greens and I have to auger the new hole.
That painting jig is swell.
I cant knock the lad he shows good attention to detail, but for the love of god.. It amazes me i have worked at 3 top courses and the best greenkeepers seem to have a little OCD, i think you need it in this job.
As soon as this popped up I knew it was 11 at Muirfield Village. I used to attend the Memorial every year back when Tiger was in his hayday. God it was so fun watching him tear this course a new asshole.
I've moved white Tee markers and changed 18 cups in 55 minutes, Greens cut @ 1/8th inch. I've also spent 3 days plugging out somebody else's low and scalped plugs, plus ball marks. in prep for a Long Island Amateur. Proly over 230 plugs.
We’re u driving a Ferrari onto the greens?
If you cut 18 cups and moved tee markers in 55 minutes, you should should be in the next marvel movie
Is this the memorial?
You cant rush the art of a perfect cup change
Shim Bro Believe me bro i worked at a grounds crew for 3 years I know all about it lol
No u can’t rush ur right u can only pressure them to go fast as soon as we start at 5:30 an stay ahead of play no matter wat an you better not mess up or u gonna chewed an there gonna say why did u go so fast u know that’s all
Absolute perfection. Bravo !
Better but still missing the 1x1 foot extraction plate to prevent imprecievable "volcanoing" of the new hole while pulling out the plug!
Fuck those plates!! Useless
@ledzeplad ya but you wouldnt have done all that extra stuff
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cool video.
I don't think this guy is slow, he's just being very careful, it's for a big tournament after all.
they paint it for t.v. some courses like the look of it but the PGA does it in large events so that the hole is easy to see while watching it at home.
Why don't you guys have a bubble level integral to the hole cutter?
The bubble levels are junk. IMO
That’s nice that the dirt doesn’t fall out
id like to see him do it like that when the course is busy like normal green staff lol
No shit. We got 1hour before first tee time
@@bryanrowan3564 what a luxury, we had about 30 mins before they set the hounds out on us. cup changer had to finish blowing off greens and changing cups and moving the tees on the back 9 before the mower got to the back nine.
Roger that!!
@@cooltjh4 spent 35 years in the business, nothing worse than looking back and seeing the dew sweepers on your ass on the 2nd hole!!
This is intense. I wish I worked on a golf course.
awesome. love the care effort and pride.
Not sure why he leaves everything off the green. But since it's a tourney I'll let it slide.
A cup setter is used for setting the cup at the recommended USGA depth. Is it not? The why does he seemingly lower it by slamming the flagstick in several times?
The cup depth is a minimum, 3/4 of an inch below ground level. Clubs can go deeper at their discretion as long as the minimum is adhered to.
I'm pretty sure he's doing that to ensure that no matter how hard the flagstick is put into the hole the cup doesn't move.
He’s doing it so the flag stood straighter lol. The guy next to him is telling him if you twist the cup setter you don’t have to worry about it. I used to do this first thing every morning for almost two years. If the superintendent caught anyone doing this he would chew them out pretty hard lol.
@@CoolPajamaPants hey, I change holes too and since I watched this tried the method of hitting the flag stick in front of my super and he didn’t say anything lol. Can u tag when the guy said if he twisted the cup setter he wouldn’t have to worry about it
What is the dude in the dress shirt doing?
great job ...just how i would do it.
Since everyone likes to brag on how much they have done in a day. I'll just join in. I have cut 21 greens, cut all tee decks and fringes and changed 27 pins on those 21 greens. All in 7 1/2 hours. No short cuts all looked top notch.
Miniature golf courses are great aren't they
what course is this? looks familiar.
Muirfield Village Golf Club #11 green
The Memorial Tournament
Hahaha. I can change 36 holes in 2.5 hours. and I have 3 power naps in between, two tea breaks, a salad lunchen, and a shopping trip.
I would like to see that shit show
the green is painful ...
Consistent depth is vital to avoid time spent leveling a plug.
A lot of courses use shitty, twist type cutters, like from R&R (with no depth gauge) and they're probably in need of sharpening. I have seen supers have a shelf full of old cutters because they buy new cutters (cheaper) rather than buying a sharpener for the ones they have. It's kind of pathetic what some supers deal with as far as budgets are concerned... A sharp pound-in cutter is always better. There is much less room for error and it requires less effort to use.
Also, the assistant here gives the guy a little bit of shit because he didn't twist the cup setter before removing it.
it kills me to see him move so slow. other than that good job.
It's for a tournament, it's not how fast ya do it, it's how good ya do it. Normal play isn't that so precise.
I've wondered the same thing. I personally like the natural look, but from what I've beem told, its more of a preference the PGA has. Wherever the tournament is, the PGA has rights to go in and tell the superintendent how to take care of the care (i.e green speed and grass height). If the PGA wants a white cup all aound, they will get it, no questions asked.
Does anyone know which brand of cut cutter he is using? All we have at the course I play are the twist type and they are about to wear me out. LOL
You should never twist the cup cutter, always straight up and down, it makes a cleaner cut, and you don't twist the roots
@@coophandluke3697 Thanks for the info! So when I get as deep as I can with the cutter just pull straight up, no twisting?
@@wornslick just start from the beginning straight up and down, only twist once you've hit bottom to release tension and prevent soil from falling out of the cutter..goog luck!!
@@coophandluke3697 Thanks! Going to change them this morning.
That's a HiO cup cutter. They're very heavy but good results. No cutter is perfect. They all seems to go crazy after a lot of use. I used the Tacit which is very good but not easy to use. User-friendly seems to be lost on the designers.
Nobody should step within 2' of the hole. That is Holy ground, no pun intended. The hole changing process needs to be updated to the 21th century. We can do better, we must do better.
That is friggen neat haha
Also why paint the inside edge of the hole?
For better visibility, for both TV and the players. My home club paints the edge, makes a world of difference when putting. Touch of class for cheap.
Lol setup does get old after a while, every other day for several months haha
Our cup cutter breaks at least once a week cause our greens are so hard... playable, but very hard.
P0tat07 that’s why you need to water them every day. Unless you live somewhere really hot.
Ya there is literal stones under the greens sometimes at the golf course I work at. Back to the shed to sharpen the hole cutter!
Ya no kidding
Not a fan of painting the root system. Seems like a green is healthy without it
really not that bad standard set up hes just going very slow
i bet your pins are trash mr 27 holes in 2 hours no way
Look at all that poa in the green....smh
Too small his work clothes
I would've changed 9 holes by now
da hulk and blew off greens!!
quality over quantity.
Yqla but they guy was poking ass euther way.can still do quality work and not take 15 m8n to change a single hole
Is that why half the greens I play the hole is cut in a crap location, not vertical, and has a ragged edge?
This is at Muirfield Village for the Memorial Tournament. Jack knows how to do it up for sure. I guess you cutting holes at the local muni doesn't require sharp edges.
Comments from the poop deck.
I would’ve had 12 and been On my way to 13 in the time it took him to do #11. You don’t pull the old cup first, you cut the new hole then go get the cup.
Tim Young this guy took his sweet ass time
Albino Raichu this guy is the superintendent of Torrey Pines now. slow and steady wins the race when everything you work for is about to be put on show for the world
cody harris I wasnt saying that as an insult
I'd rather eat glass than use the HIO cup cutter
Alot of players like it better whit the paint some dont Im in charge of golf set up for out upcoming pga championship in march 1..but this guys takes way to long to change a flag i understand yes it has yo look good but wow too long
Okay, now come and make one for me in my back yard!
not
3 hours to do 18 perfect holes...not bad at all time wise
Ya really, I take my time and I'll do 18 in 3 and a half to 4 hours. I take my time to make it look right. It's stupid otherwise.
oof, at the golf course i worked at, you would have been trampled by the golfers at hole 6 going that slow. we had speeding koreans as our first golfers every day. they always had to beat the crowd but could play 18 holes in 2 hours or less.
Not a job for teenagers.
Pull up your pants , democrat.
What the fuckkkkk, u need 10min 🤣🤣🤣🤣