Mate this is the first one your videos I have watched and I love it. Purely because it’s so good to have a cockney lad doing a video rather than listening to more American voices! 😁
Dear Daniel: Thank you for giving us a detailed, interesting look at this, terrific species. I've had five in my, 75-gallon tank for several years and really enjoy them. All my best, Sincerely, E. J. Brinegar
Daniel, I think you have covered everything well. When they get bigger they just laze around but at feeding time they are quick to get what is being offered. As you say they can get fairly big. My approach not to algae is saturation with plants and lots of water changes. Well, I will see if that works I am re-scaping my 110 L tank as we speak.
Yes preventing or reacting to the cause of the algae growth is always better than buying a fish or other aquatic animal to feed it. It's just papering the cracks otherwise. I had made this video with one of the fish groups in mind where it will answer several questions that come up frequently. Have fun with the 110l. So much fun starting a new tank or restarting one.
The line down the sides of the Chinese algae eater look like a tire track I love Chinese algae eaters When I had mine I had people asking me if my tank just got cleaned and it hadn't been cleaned in three years💯
Had this fish years ago. Found it prolific at eating algae when young. It soon became lazy though. Not the most colourful fish but very cute when it's tiny. Good video Daniel
Thanks HG. Yeah it looks like eating lots of algae helps them to get bigger quicker which is probably a good survival trait in the wild but when they reach a decent size they don't need it so much.
I found most fish are like that, shrimps too. Even my amano shrimp got lazy when fully grown. They will still eat most algae but have learned when feeding time is.
Mine are still eating BBA at around 5 inches. They're over a year old now, I moved an infested plant into their tank and they'd got it spotless for me by morning. They're underrated fish for sure
Agree with you there. Good to hear they continue to address the BBA when they get older sometimes too, thanks. Any I've had have given up on that just before reaching full size but good to know it can happen.
I have 3 in my 240l tank and so far they have never eaten any fish food. They are growing quite quickly entirely on natural algae. People say they grow to 6 inches but I've never seen one that big. I doubt they will grow anywhere near that big in a tank.
1:22 what kind of fish is the spotted one? It looks cool. Great video, very informative. What about breeding them though? I'd love to have 20 or so of these, but I am NOT spending $150 buying them lol
Thank you. The long one that disappears under the log? That's a Horseface Loach. I find them quite shy. They often hide under the substrate with just their eyes poking out.
@@DanielKeepingFish thanks. Any idea where I could find info on breeding SAE? I scoured RUclips, but didn't see anything on them other than short clips of breeding displays, nothing with information on how to go from happy parents to fry.
@@woodworkerroyer8497 The reason you won't find information on breeding them is because nobody has managed to do it yet. Every SAE in the fish shop is a wild caught specimen. There are a number of videos on RUclips allegedly showing breeding behaviour but that's about it.
Hi Daniel thanks for the video, very interesting! Can you tell me what the fish at 1’06 in the video that stay on the bottom ? And also what the name of this lotus style reddish plant that you have ? 🙏
Ah they're Horsefaced Loach. Honestly not my favourite fish. I found them to be quote skittish and seem to shoot away soon as you approach burying themselves under the substrate with surprising speed with only their eyes sticking out which makes them incredibly difficult to spot. The plant is Red Tiger Lotus. Here a video I did on it if you would like to know more: ruclips.net/video/IfASguuYD2M/видео.html
Your video was very informative. Wondering what the long, white fish with the black markings on it at 1:15 is. m it was lying still then swam out of sight Thnks
Oh they are Horseface Loach. Honestly they aren't my favorite fish. They're really really shy. They bury down in the substrate with just their eyes poking out making them pretty much invisible and hard to find. They don't come out too much and are easily scared off. That's my experience of them at least. Perhaps others have enjoyed them more and had better experiences of them but I don't think I'd get them again.
Thank you for sharing your experience, very informative. I just got two of these and the bloke didn't even say the name, but now I know they are siamese algae eaters. I also told him that I have a coldwater tank kept at 22 C, and now I had to find out that these guys like a minimum 24C, do you think it's going to be a problem? danios being coldwater, and me cranking up the temp to 24?
I believe Danios are sold as either tropical or temperate fish. Temperate range (which is what I'm thinking you have) is about 14 - 24 degrees so yeah I'd definitely set the temperature to 24 for a happy medium for all the fish.
I noticed you have them with Gourami's? I read that you can not keep those together, as this Siamese Algae Eater would suck itself to the side of this fish? any experiance with that?
i have 2 of these, and had to seperate them to different tanks. They can be assholes sometimes. Saw one of them eating one of my shrimps the other day lol. Also had one jumping out of the tank while I was cleaning it
Does the black stripe run all the way into the tail? There is a false Siamese algaea eater that (while still a cleaner) gets more aggressive as it grows and even stops eating algae.
Are there other fish making them feel nervous? Or is it a busy part of the house? Try dimming the lights, ensure all is calm the drop the food in and wait. Assuming there are not more active fish in the tank. They're quite timid.
Not sure mate, interesting one. I don't reckon they would be able to stick up for themselves but they're sure quick enough to get out of the way of unwanted attention.
I really appreciate this video. Do you think it would be a good idea to buy 5 of them at around 1.5" and put them with my 2" female jack dempsey and make them grow together in my 55?
Thank you very much for saying you enjoyed the video. I have never kept Jack Dempseys myself. My understanding is that they are quite aggressive so can limit tank mate options. If you are going to try them together then I think you have the right idea getting them at a similar size and allowing them to grow together though. SAE are quite fast and should be able to stay out of the Dempsey's way if there is plenty of space in the tank.
Siamese Algae eater tend to eat thread/string/hair algae, NOT BBA. BBA is eaten by Amano shrimp. SAE will eat filamentous algaes all their lives, but mostly when younger fish and less so, as you said, as they mature. The SAE has the golden lines above, and less prominently below, the black lateral line that goes all the way to the caudal fin and doesn't stop at the peduncle, before the caudal fin, like it does in Flying Foxes. FF's also do not have the gold lines. SAEs also have black edged scales which are delineated by the black edging and are very noticeable.
Good shout about the other algae. I've never really had any of it to observe it. They definately eat BBA up to a point though, I have had them clear several tanks of it. They are masters at it until they reach a certain maturity.
No. There are not like the notoriously aggressive Chinese Algae Eaters. You'll always get that one fish that is the exception to the rule but I've never seen these being aggressive.
I am looking at getting some of these for the black beard algae in my tank, my only issue is they will be in with geophagus tapajos red heads? Will they get along?
If you look at their mouths they're more adept to picking off stuff like string and hair algea. For algae that grows across surfaces like green algae I'd be leaning more towards the likes of Bristlenose Plecos.
It's really difficult to differentiate between male and female apart from the female tends to get a bit bigger eventually. They are also not easy to breed in the home aquarium. Not sure if I've ever heard it being done actually.
I have 5 SAEs 3 to 3.5 inches and they never eat algae even when they were small. They chased each other and dashed from one end of the tank to the other constantly. I have to move my neons after they killed 9 of them. They fight for flakes and pellets with my gourami and angle fish when feeding. I’ll never buy them again and wanted to get rid of them.
I've never kept Bichir but theoretically aye. They're pretty swift so quick enough to get out the way but I would think soon as the Bichir reaches a reasonable size it could easily swallow a SAE it took by surprise and probably would hey. Part of the problem is they're not really top level fish. They tend to spend most of their time between the rocks and plants particularly while they're a bit younger which puts them right in the path of a hungry Bichir.
How does it look? Does it look playful or aggressive. Generally I find them not to be very aggressive at all. Could also be yiu have a male and female and the male is keen to breed.
I've never kept Flag Fish to be able to give you any comparison or information on them mate. Do they eat it all their lives? SAE don't so that might be a deciding factor maybe?
Interesting question bud. In the west we generally keep Goldfish at lower temperatures than their tropical cousins. I realise that is not the same in other parts of the world partly due to the natrual climate. So I will struggle to answer that since I have never done it. Fancy Goldfish may find sharing a little stressful since the SAE can be very quick and playful but other more streamlined varieties that are more competent swimmer might not mind that. I'm sorry that's not the complete answer you were looking for but I'd rather give you an honest one rather that a reply based on guess work.
@@GolfWisdom1 just to let you know they are a nice fish but they like to hide a lot. Often they bury in the substrate with just their eyes sticking out. I found them to be quite timid.
It's really difficult to differentiate between male and female apart from the female tends to get a bit bigger eventually. They are also not easy to breed in the home aquarium. Not sure if I've ever heard it being done actually.
Mate this is the first one your videos I have watched and I love it. Purely because it’s so good to have a cockney lad doing a video rather than listening to more American voices! 😁
Sorry Lewis I just saw this comment. Glad you enjoyed it, thanks.
Dear Daniel:
Thank you for giving us a detailed, interesting look at this, terrific species. I've had five in my, 75-gallon tank for several years and really enjoy them.
All my best,
Sincerely,
E. J. Brinegar
Me too E. J. I really like these fish.
Well done! I just put 5 in my 125 and really enjoy watching them play with each other. I didn't know they behaved like that before I purchased them.
Haha I know right? Real joyful fish when they have a couple of pals to play with hey.
Daniel, I think you have covered everything well. When they get bigger they just laze around but at feeding time they are quick to get what is being offered. As you say they can get fairly big. My approach not to algae is saturation with plants and lots of water changes. Well, I will see if that works I am re-scaping my 110 L tank as we speak.
Yes preventing or reacting to the cause of the algae growth is always better than buying a fish or other aquatic animal to feed it. It's just papering the cracks otherwise.
I had made this video with one of the fish groups in mind where it will answer several questions that come up frequently.
Have fun with the 110l. So much fun starting a new tank or restarting one.
Great advice about the lifespan. I have 4 in my 55 gallon. They are about 3.5 inches now. As you said they are always playing together.
fantastic video lovely fish really informative 👍🏻
Thanks very much. Yeah I really like these guys. Hope I did them justice here.
Like #471 another fantastic species presentation Daniel really really good!💯⭐️
Thanks very much mate. Glad you liked it and thanks for letting me know.
Great video
Thank you very much bud. 👍
fantastic video lovely fish really informative.
Thank you very much.
They seem like a very cool fish. They are really nice looking as well. Great video man!
Thanks very much JC.
The line down the sides of the Chinese algae eater look like a tire track I love Chinese algae eaters When I had mine I had people asking me if my tank just got cleaned and it hadn't been cleaned in three years💯
Brilliant video mate
Thank you very much.
Great fish.
Aye they're pretty cool Mr B.
Had this fish years ago. Found it prolific at eating algae when young. It soon became lazy though. Not the most colourful fish but very cute when it's tiny. Good video Daniel
Thanks HG.
Yeah it looks like eating lots of algae helps them to get bigger quicker which is probably a good survival trait in the wild but when they reach a decent size they don't need it so much.
I found most fish are like that, shrimps too. Even my amano shrimp got lazy when fully grown. They will still eat most algae but have learned when feeding time is.
nice profile good info like always
Really sorry I didn't answer you previously. I only just saw this comment.
Thank you very much. 👍
Great video. I love my SAE. Probably my favourite fish at the moment.
Great info. Gracious
Thank you Kentlyone.
This is very amazingggg. New supporter ☺️
Oh thank you very much.
Mine are still eating BBA at around 5 inches. They're over a year old now, I moved an infested plant into their tank and they'd got it spotless for me by morning. They're underrated fish for sure
Agree with you there. Good to hear they continue to address the BBA when they get older sometimes too, thanks. Any I've had have given up on that just before reaching full size but good to know it can happen.
As always a very informative video DK.
Thank you very much bud. Always appreciate your encouraging comments so I do.
Very informative video mate
Thank you bud. I hope so.
Currently don't have any... Have had many in the past.... Great video brother 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thanks homes.
I find it so strange hearing a cockney use the word “wee” for little 😂
Nice video though
Side effect of a London fella living in Scotland for many years mate. Never lost the accent but a few of the localisms have stuck.
@@DanielKeepingFish Fair enough. I’ve subscribed, keep it coming. 🙏
I didn't know a lot of this info. Good video.
Oh thanks, that's great. Hope it was useful then.
amazing fish
They're one of my favorites especially a shoal of them in a nice big tank.
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They act just like a hoover vacuum
Haha they sure do. Certainly while they're younger anyway.
I have 3 in my 240l tank and so far they have never eaten any fish food. They are growing quite quickly entirely on natural algae.
People say they grow to 6 inches but I've never seen one that big. I doubt they will grow anywhere near that big in a tank.
Sounds like they're doing a great job of clearing up for you. 👍
1:22 what kind of fish is the spotted one? It looks cool.
Great video, very informative.
What about breeding them though? I'd love to have 20 or so of these, but I am NOT spending $150 buying them lol
Thank you.
The long one that disappears under the log? That's a Horseface Loach. I find them quite shy. They often hide under the substrate with just their eyes poking out.
@@DanielKeepingFish thanks.
Any idea where I could find info on breeding SAE? I scoured RUclips, but didn't see anything on them other than short clips of breeding displays, nothing with information on how to go from happy parents to fry.
@@woodworkerroyer8497 The reason you won't find information on breeding them is because nobody has managed to do it yet. Every SAE in the fish shop is a wild caught specimen. There are a number of videos on RUclips allegedly showing breeding behaviour but that's about it.
Hi Daniel thanks for the video, very interesting!
Can you tell me what the fish at 1’06 in the video that stay on the bottom ?
And also what the name of this lotus style reddish plant that you have ?
🙏
Ah they're Horsefaced Loach. Honestly not my favourite fish. I found them to be quote skittish and seem to shoot away soon as you approach burying themselves under the substrate with surprising speed with only their eyes sticking out which makes them incredibly difficult to spot.
The plant is Red Tiger Lotus. Here a video I did on it if you would like to know more: ruclips.net/video/IfASguuYD2M/видео.html
Your video was very informative. Wondering what the long, white fish with the black markings on it at 1:15 is. m it was lying still then swam out of sight Thnks
Oh they are Horseface Loach. Honestly they aren't my favorite fish. They're really really shy. They bury down in the substrate with just their eyes poking out making them pretty much invisible and hard to find. They don't come out too much and are easily scared off. That's my experience of them at least. Perhaps others have enjoyed them more and had better experiences of them but I don't think I'd get them again.
nice video, good information, if you want look at my planted tank vids with snails, frogs andshrimps to chill, greetings from germany
Nice video on these guys!!! Message me your info on FB again so I can try and send the stickers!!!
No sweat bud. Will hit you up.
Thank you for sharing your experience, very informative. I just got two of these and the bloke didn't even say the name, but now I know they are siamese algae eaters. I also told him that I have a coldwater tank kept at 22 C, and now I had to find out that these guys like a minimum 24C, do you think it's going to be a problem? danios being coldwater, and me cranking up the temp to 24?
I believe Danios are sold as either tropical or temperate fish. Temperate range (which is what I'm thinking you have) is about 14 - 24 degrees so yeah I'd definitely set the temperature to 24 for a happy medium for all the fish.
I noticed you have them with Gourami's? I read that you can not keep those together, as this Siamese Algae Eater would suck itself to the side of this fish?
any experiance with that?
Folk confuse these with Chinese Algae Eaters sometimes. Chinese Algae Eaters might but these guys won't suck on any other fish.
Thanks bro
No worries Timofey.
Very hand to know cheers bro
Great video mate
They look like little sharks hay. No other fish get them lol my type of fish.
i have 2 of these, and had to seperate them to different tanks. They can be assholes sometimes. Saw one of them eating one of my shrimps the other day lol.
Also had one jumping out of the tank while I was cleaning it
On no. Sorry about your shrimp.
Yeah they're prone to jumping for sure.
Does the black stripe run all the way into the tail? There is a false Siamese algaea eater that (while still a cleaner) gets more aggressive as it grows and even stops eating algae.
@@MrNidhog there is indeed but yes, with true SAE the black stripe runs all the way into the tail. The other fins should be clear.
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I have 2 in my tank and they only hide all day and night, I never see them out eating the algae, any idea why?
Are there other fish making them feel nervous? Or is it a busy part of the house? Try dimming the lights, ensure all is calm the drop the food in and wait.
Assuming there are not more active fish in the tank. They're quite timid.
These are nice I wounder how they would do in a tank with African cichlids 🤔
Not sure mate, interesting one.
I don't reckon they would be able to stick up for themselves but they're sure quick enough to get out of the way of unwanted attention.
Thank you very much for answering my question Daniel.
No worries Cheryl. Happy fish keeping!
Mine SAE still eats algae at 4 years old and 5 inch long, guess i must just be lucky.
I really appreciate this video. Do you think it would be a good idea to buy 5 of them at around 1.5" and put them with my 2" female jack dempsey and make them grow together in my 55?
Thank you very much for saying you enjoyed the video.
I have never kept Jack Dempseys myself. My understanding is that they are quite aggressive so can limit tank mate options. If you are going to try them together then I think you have the right idea getting them at a similar size and allowing them to grow together though. SAE are quite fast and should be able to stay out of the Dempsey's way if there is plenty of space in the tank.
Siamese Algae eater tend to eat thread/string/hair algae, NOT BBA. BBA is eaten by Amano shrimp. SAE will eat filamentous algaes all their lives, but mostly when younger fish and less so, as you said, as they mature. The SAE has the golden lines above, and less prominently below, the black lateral line that goes all the way to the caudal fin and doesn't stop at the peduncle, before the caudal fin, like it does in Flying Foxes. FF's also do not have the gold lines. SAEs also have black edged scales which are delineated by the black edging and are very noticeable.
Good shout about the other algae. I've never really had any of it to observe it.
They definately eat BBA up to a point though, I have had them clear several tanks of it. They are masters at it until they reach a certain maturity.
Can I keep safe just one, alone, in a 35 liter tank?
They get quite large eventually. Feel like 35l will be too snug for an adult I'm afraid.
Do they get aggressive when they get bigger?
No. There are not like the notoriously aggressive Chinese Algae Eaters.
You'll always get that one fish that is the exception to the rule but I've never seen these being aggressive.
I am looking at getting some of these for the black beard algae in my tank, my only issue is they will be in with geophagus tapajos red heads? Will they get along?
Do they eat regular green algae?
If you look at their mouths they're more adept to picking off stuff like string and hair algea. For algae that grows across surfaces like green algae I'd be leaning more towards the likes of Bristlenose Plecos.
just been offered some of these thinking of adding the to my angel tank
How to breed 'em?
It's really difficult to differentiate between male and female apart from the female tends to get a bit bigger eventually.
They are also not easy to breed in the home aquarium. Not sure if I've ever heard it being done actually.
I have 5 SAEs 3 to 3.5 inches and they never eat algae even when they were small. They chased each other and dashed from one end of the tank to the other constantly. I have to move my neons after they killed 9 of them. They fight for flakes and pellets with my gourami and angle fish when feeding. I’ll never buy them again and wanted to get rid of them.
Sounds like you were sold the False Siamese Algae eater or the Chinese Algae Eater.
Can simmise algae eater be with bichirs?
I've never kept Bichir but theoretically aye. They're pretty swift so quick enough to get out the way but I would think soon as the Bichir reaches a reasonable size it could easily swallow a SAE it took by surprise and probably would hey.
Part of the problem is they're not really top level fish. They tend to spend most of their time between the rocks and plants particularly while they're a bit younger which puts them right in the path of a hungry Bichir.
I have 2 SAE but one seems to chase thr other a little is that normal?
How does it look? Does it look playful or aggressive.
Generally I find them not to be very aggressive at all.
Could also be yiu have a male and female and the male is keen to breed.
Debating on these vs the Florida flag fish right now...Got a horrible green hair algae problem in my 20g planted,grrr..
I've never kept Flag Fish to be able to give you any comparison or information on them mate. Do they eat it all their lives? SAE don't so that might be a deciding factor maybe?
Is it okay to put in a goldfish tank?
Interesting question bud. In the west we generally keep Goldfish at lower temperatures than their tropical cousins. I realise that is not the same in other parts of the world partly due to the natrual climate.
So I will struggle to answer that since I have never done it. Fancy Goldfish may find sharing a little stressful since the SAE can be very quick and playful but other more streamlined varieties that are more competent swimmer might not mind that.
I'm sorry that's not the complete answer you were looking for but I'd rather give you an honest one rather that a reply based on guess work.
Thank you for the information
what are those rooted plants called seem in the beginning of the video?
That's Dwarf Sag. Sagittaria Subulata.
What is that fish at the bottom 1:04
That is a Horseface Loach bud.
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@@GolfWisdom1 just to let you know they are a nice fish but they like to hide a lot. Often they bury in the substrate with just their eyes sticking out. I found them to be quite timid.
Is they attacks shrimps
I've never seen them attack shrimp bud.
I have kept them with Cherry Shrimp, Wood Shrimp and Amano.
@@DanielKeepingFish thanks bro
Where can I buy them?
I've been able to pick them up from both local fish stores and online in the past.
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Breeding and sex drifrence
It's really difficult to differentiate between male and female apart from the female tends to get a bit bigger eventually.
They are also not easy to breed in the home aquarium. Not sure if I've ever heard it being done actually.
@@DanielKeepingFish I’ll let you know if mine breeds.. some of mine has moustaches and some dont
Do i need driftwood for siamese algae eater
No I wouldn't say it's particularly necessary for them.
@@DanielKeepingFish thanks
nice video, good information, if you want look at my planted tank vids with snails, frogs andshrimps to chill, greetings from germany
nice video, good information, if you want look at my planted tank vids with snails, frogs andshrimps to chill, greetings from germany
nice video, good information, if you want look at my planted tank vids with snails, frogs andshrimps to chill, greetings from germany