I think on a narrative level Polka serves to reinforce that the Genius Society is an ethically neutral organization, including malevolent as well as benevolent members (like Aiden). Rubert serves a similar purpose in the story.
That could be possible though we dont really know why shes killing them, it could swing either way atm and she might be doing what shes doing out of pure malevolence or instead some twisted sense of greater good. But it does seem the genius society is a bit more balanced with a mix of both good, neutral and essentially bad people that make up its membership. I suppose intelligence doesnt morally discriminate
@@Maevix3142 At minimum, Polka has been willing to murder on multiple occasions. It's one thing if she did it to stop those who were commiting heinous acts (like Rubert was with his robo-jihad), but doing so to preemptively stop someone who might commit an atrocity in the future is still, at best, morally gray. "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions," and all that.
Polka is one of the most interesting characters of the Society, so far she's killed one member who indirectly caused the birth of Nanook while the other discovered the existence of a material we use to make energy drinks. (At least in game) I personally leans toward that, she might be killing scientists before they discover something in particular, something she may know about but thinks its best if people remain ignorant of it. This makes me think she'll eventually go after Herta. On that note I wonder if she has some inside help, its kind of strange that Ruan Mei has a secret room within the simulated universe but tells us to keep it a secret from Herta, however its also strange that she helps us get a bunch of blessings rather then hide from us as well. But its just something I've been thinking about. Perhaps Polka is even a follower of Mythus, it would be a great way to tie them into the overall story.
That interesting, the idea that she might actually be working with others in the society. The phlogiston is also used to make the arm cannon that rubert (the one she was said to kill) himself created when it became sentient, so the idea she is removing 'dangerous' things might still be possible. If she does end up targetting herta, I would love to have that be a story element where were just trying to keep herta alive while running from this serial killer
She's quite the intriguing character! All of her portraits in the universe erased? Genius Society slayer? And her title is the Lord of freaking Silence? Talk about an imposing aura! Can't wait to meet her... just like Herta. Would love a story arc around the Genius Society involving Herta (in the flesh), Screwllum and Ruan Mei around the Polka Kakamond mystery.
I think we'll eventually get one once we reach either planet screwllum or Nous' temple, maybe polka ends up being the big bad in that storyline. Lord of the silence is such a badass title though, I really cant wait to learn more about her
The 1st time we learn about her is on tutorial when inspecting her portrait with kafka on the bridge. Also what i find interesting is nous counterpart is aeon of enigmata that actively shroud everything in fog of mystery as opposite of erudition mission. Why did i brought enigmata here? Because polka action is in tune with what enigmata does and posibly polka defect to enigmata. It is just my hypothesis so take it with grain of salt. Here is the argument that make me think this way: 1. Her action on scrubing all mention and portrait of her face did create a mystery that in line with enigmata goal 2. Her first documented murder did involve the reaffirming of the founding of flogistan making them back into the realm if uncertainty. Which is again the domain of enigmata
I just can't keep thinking about how similar she looks to herta ... Similar hair and clothing colours of purple and black .and the fact that she said she wanted to meet and said ( you and i have a lot to talk about) ... I believe she is her mother and herta wants to know why she did this to the other members... Can't wait
Theres theories going around that Polka is actually Kafka? Though I dont know how good of a guess that is but she might have a connection with herta, maybe a long distant relative or ancestor given she is the 4th member while herta is the 83rd
Are these the mysterious voices that the guardians where talking to I think she's maybe one of the followers of these aliens I think there probably the fatui of this universe
Who know if the members beings batteries for Nouse theory is correct then maybe she lost belief in the Path of Erudition and start to seek help from the Engigmata and so another war began just like the Xianzou Luofu story quest with Lan vs Yaoshi
Maybe she worships the enigma aeon that would explain why she’s getting rid of all her pictures and it would back up the theory about her killing the other society members to make sure they don’t gain knowledge (and maybe why she’s doing this is because she found out the actual meaning of the universe)
No lie this society sounds fun lot to explore in that universe And also it is interesting that there is someone going around attack the same members wonder if they will try to remove her back
It doesnt seem like theyre trying to or maybe it just hasnt been expanded in the story. Plus im not sure if shes trying to kill all of them or only specific members, maybe those that might threaten the universe or something. Herta seems to really want to meet her though
My random theory is that she joined the knights of beauty(the worshippers of idrilla, I forget their name). Could explain how she was able to completely remove every portrait of herself from the universe, and maybe they are against Nous or something.
@@patrickcarter2829Yup. History Fictionologists have the ability to just changing history whatever tf they want as far as I remember, they can easily changing Polka’s appearance whatever she does some crimes which ended up making everything… twisted.
i think she's kinda devoted to Nous after the gold and gear SU, because just like a believer, she believed that Nous Calculations are absolute and then she kills Rubert to fulfill that.
Thats certainly a possibility, perhaps shes on the extreme end of Nous' followers and believes their predictions so much that she wants them to be a reality no matter the cost. Maybe thats why Nous also changed from giving answer to riddles, after they revealed their findings people become obsessed with making them a reality 🤔
TL:DR, Polka is fighting against the Enigmata, by embracing the Enigmata … or more specifically, by researching the fields of being enigmatic. Her name is so … off, Polka Kakamond? I’m under the slight impression that her name might be an anagram for something else. She hides her face, but not her name, and not her gender nor the general shape of her body, she doesn’t remove the portrait itself, just scratches off a portion instead, she doesn’t appear to care about her reputation, despite making a large show over hiding her facial identity. As a member of the Genius Society, she must have some inkling towards the Path of Erudition, whether it be following it, or removing it. I decided to do I bit of a dive into the meaning of Erudition and what a Philosophy of Erudition could possibly be. Erudition is a collection of knowledge that possesses some level of value. A Philosophy of Erudition is to embrace ALL collections of knowledge. (To give a little example to clarify the difference between the two. A Chef would want knowledge that a Chef should need in order to do his job/passion, while the Restaurant will need knowledge of several things, including the knowledge of a Chef, in order to keep the Restaurant from closing down.) This perfectly explains why Nous made the Genius Society, for a singular person alone cannot express the philosophy of erudition. The Genius Society is living proof of this philosophy. The Intelligencia Guild also expresses this philosophy, but in a more philanthropist method, which can limit the erudition one seeks. After all, does anyone need the erudition of Aeons to live? In a majority of cases, no, so the Intelligencia Guild would show little to no concern over the mysteries of the Aeons, while the Genius Society doesn’t limit its Doors to any field of erudition. Herta is a shining example of Erudition, no wonder she is an Emanator of Erudition. So, Polka … what eruditions does she seek out? … perhaps, an erudition of Enigmata? After all, we are expressively told just how dangerous the Path of Enigmata is, so if someone goes out of their way to lessen these damages, they would be attracting a lot of attention, so much attention that Mythus the Enigmata may interfere themselves. The only question I have now is … if her name is indeed an Anagram, what would the unscrambled version be?
Now that you point it out, the way shes going about it doesnt seem very.. complete. She does seem to obscure her face but not her name, gender or her associations with the genius society. Theres a lot of theories about her now being on the side of enigmata give what she tries to obscure but as you mentioned she doesnt seem to be doing a good job or rather a complete job of obscuring herself. Erudition is the quality of having great knowledge, if shes is still part of the genius society (since im assuming nous hasnt kicked her out) but displaying actions close to the enigmata, maybe shes just hoarding knowledge. Removing information from the universe but collecting it under her own sphere of control. That would kinda fit both paths ideals in a sense, so maybe shes just playing both sides but to what end we dont really know
Mythus offered her the idea of cookies, but he didnt confirm it lol. In all seriousness it could be possible, though I wonder why nous hasnt kicked her out if unless it didnt know of her betrayal
Enigmata sounds interesting, maybe she switched sides and feels not everything should be known. Now that i think about it maybe shes working with the balance path (dont recall the name atm) and is just ofsetting the societies activities
@@Maevix3142 both enigmata and hooh interfering in the only eon that in mechanical Nature is a fascinating thought, in my part i Just really want to know more of the history fictionologists.
@@Maevix3142 well, Nous is just realy don't care about them. Even Nous already know everything about the universe but his follower have a bit misunderstanding, they thought Nous need their help to discover the mytery of the universe but in reality Nous alredy know it all. Yet Nous never say anything about it That is because one of the CORE mentality of Erudition is about selfishness. All Genius Society member except 1 person is all realy selfish and never uncover their own project. Just look at Herta Space Station that basically just a trash bin from her
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I think on a narrative level Polka serves to reinforce that the Genius Society is an ethically neutral organization, including malevolent as well as benevolent members (like Aiden). Rubert serves a similar purpose in the story.
That could be possible though we dont really know why shes killing them, it could swing either way atm and she might be doing what shes doing out of pure malevolence or instead some twisted sense of greater good. But it does seem the genius society is a bit more balanced with a mix of both good, neutral and essentially bad people that make up its membership. I suppose intelligence doesnt morally discriminate
@@Maevix3142 At minimum, Polka has been willing to murder on multiple occasions. It's one thing if she did it to stop those who were commiting heinous acts (like Rubert was with his robo-jihad), but doing so to preemptively stop someone who might commit an atrocity in the future is still, at best, morally gray. "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions," and all that.
Polka is one of the most interesting characters of the Society, so far she's killed one member who indirectly caused the birth of Nanook while the other discovered the existence of a material we use to make energy drinks. (At least in game)
I personally leans toward that, she might be killing scientists before they discover something in particular, something she may know about but thinks its best if people remain ignorant of it. This makes me think she'll eventually go after Herta. On that note I wonder if she has some inside help, its kind of strange that Ruan Mei has a secret room within the simulated universe but tells us to keep it a secret from Herta, however its also strange that she helps us get a bunch of blessings rather then hide from us as well. But its just something I've been thinking about.
Perhaps Polka is even a follower of Mythus, it would be a great way to tie them into the overall story.
That interesting, the idea that she might actually be working with others in the society. The phlogiston is also used to make the arm cannon that rubert (the one she was said to kill) himself created when it became sentient, so the idea she is removing 'dangerous' things might still be possible. If she does end up targetting herta, I would love to have that be a story element where were just trying to keep herta alive while running from this serial killer
Ruan Mei is best girl. She wont hurt Herta
@@arnowisp6244surely 🌚
She's quite the intriguing character! All of her portraits in the universe erased? Genius Society slayer? And her title is the Lord of freaking Silence?
Talk about an imposing aura! Can't wait to meet her... just like Herta.
Would love a story arc around the Genius Society involving Herta (in the flesh), Screwllum and Ruan Mei around the Polka Kakamond mystery.
I think we'll eventually get one once we reach either planet screwllum or Nous' temple, maybe polka ends up being the big bad in that storyline. Lord of the silence is such a badass title though, I really cant wait to learn more about her
The 1st time we learn about her is on tutorial when inspecting her portrait with kafka on the bridge. Also what i find interesting is nous counterpart is aeon of enigmata that actively shroud everything in fog of mystery as opposite of erudition mission. Why did i brought enigmata here? Because polka action is in tune with what enigmata does and posibly polka defect to enigmata. It is just my hypothesis so take it with grain of salt.
Here is the argument that make me think this way:
1. Her action on scrubing all mention and portrait of her face did create a mystery that in line with enigmata goal
2. Her first documented murder did involve the reaffirming of the founding of flogistan making them back into the realm if uncertainty. Which is again the domain of enigmata
I just can't keep thinking about how similar she looks to herta ... Similar hair and clothing colours of purple and black .and the fact that she said she wanted to meet and said ( you and i have a lot to talk about) ... I believe she is her mother and herta wants to know why she did this to the other members... Can't wait
Theres theories going around that Polka is actually Kafka? Though I dont know how good of a guess that is but she might have a connection with herta, maybe a long distant relative or ancestor given she is the 4th member while herta is the 83rd
To my guess she might be a follower of the Path of Enigma 😉
I believe so, too. Her actions bear a lot of similarities to a History Fictionologist.
Are these the mysterious voices that the guardians where talking to I think she's maybe one of the followers of these aliens I think there probably the fatui of this universe
Definitely, wish I had included that as well. Makes sense why she would be killing them to hide knowledge and information
THAT WOULD BE A GOOD PLOT TWIST
Who know if the members beings batteries for Nouse theory is correct then maybe she lost belief in the Path of Erudition and start to seek help from the Engigmata and so another war began just like the Xianzou Luofu story quest with Lan vs Yaoshi
Fuli's followers also hide their faces, like the Messenger aboard the Express. Just throwing it out there
Oh thats interesting, I wonder if Polka is associated with remembrance in any way
Maybe she worships the enigma aeon that would explain why she’s getting rid of all her pictures and it would back up the theory about her killing the other society members to make sure they don’t gain knowledge (and maybe why she’s doing this is because she found out the actual meaning of the universe)
My theory is: Polka is Sushang. Reason: they have the same hair
Seems legit, though maybe its her mom instead.
Bro Sushang is the most cute and adorable Waifu for me , How dare you Call her A serial killer!
Definitely onto something bro
Li sushang from honkai impact?
I sense a Segway to playable REAL herta
With upgraded characters like imbibitor lunae being a thing, its not totally out of the question. I really wonder what real herta looks like
Maybe Polka is Herta's true identity before de-aging. 🤔
Wouldnt that be a twist, Herta just doesnt want people to see her old self 😂
This sounds like an interesting theory but Herta says she wants to meet Polka Kakamond in person, so i don’t think so
@@yelan1918C1hans Id say this too if i didnt want people to know my true identity
No lie this society sounds fun lot to explore in that universe
And also it is interesting that there is someone going around attack the same members wonder if they will try to remove her back
It doesnt seem like theyre trying to or maybe it just hasnt been expanded in the story. Plus im not sure if shes trying to kill all of them or only specific members, maybe those that might threaten the universe or something. Herta seems to really want to meet her though
My random theory is that she joined the knights of beauty(the worshippers of idrilla, I forget their name). Could explain how she was able to completely remove every portrait of herself from the universe, and maybe they are against Nous or something.
If "removal" is the key word, wouldn't a History Fictionologist make more sense? Given that The Enigmata is directly opposed to The Erudition.
@@patrickcarter2829 Oh, I've not heard of the enigmata before,.but if they're directly opposed to Nous, then yeah, that sounds more plausible
@@patrickcarter2829Yup. History Fictionologists have the ability to just changing history whatever tf they want as far as I remember, they can easily changing Polka’s appearance whatever she does some crimes which ended up making everything… twisted.
Look at her clothes there's a rose there, maybe she a follower of beauty or it's Idrila hiding with another aeon ... lol 😂 ❤❤❤ love this videos
Obscuring her actions and appearance… Mythus follower?
Honestly dont know why this didnt come to me, but yeah she could totally be teaming up with mythus
i think she's kinda devoted to Nous after the gold and gear SU, because just like a believer, she believed that Nous Calculations are absolute and then she kills Rubert to fulfill that.
Thats certainly a possibility, perhaps shes on the extreme end of Nous' followers and believes their predictions so much that she wants them to be a reality no matter the cost. Maybe thats why Nous also changed from giving answer to riddles, after they revealed their findings people become obsessed with making them a reality 🤔
TL:DR, Polka is fighting against the Enigmata, by embracing the Enigmata … or more specifically, by researching the fields of being enigmatic.
Her name is so … off, Polka Kakamond? I’m under the slight impression that her name might be an anagram for something else.
She hides her face, but not her name, and not her gender nor the general shape of her body, she doesn’t remove the portrait itself, just scratches off a portion instead, she doesn’t appear to care about her reputation, despite making a large show over hiding her facial identity.
As a member of the Genius Society, she must have some inkling towards the Path of Erudition, whether it be following it, or removing it.
I decided to do I bit of a dive into the meaning of Erudition and what a Philosophy of Erudition could possibly be.
Erudition is a collection of knowledge that possesses some level of value.
A Philosophy of Erudition is to embrace ALL collections of knowledge.
(To give a little example to clarify the difference between the two. A Chef would want knowledge that a Chef should need in order to do his job/passion, while the Restaurant will need knowledge of several things, including the knowledge of a Chef, in order to keep the Restaurant from closing down.)
This perfectly explains why Nous made the Genius Society, for a singular person alone cannot express the philosophy of erudition. The Genius Society is living proof of this philosophy. The Intelligencia Guild also expresses this philosophy, but in a more philanthropist method, which can limit the erudition one seeks. After all, does anyone need the erudition of Aeons to live? In a majority of cases, no, so the Intelligencia Guild would show little to no concern over the mysteries of the Aeons, while the Genius Society doesn’t limit its Doors to any field of erudition.
Herta is a shining example of Erudition, no wonder she is an Emanator of Erudition.
So, Polka … what eruditions does she seek out? … perhaps, an erudition of Enigmata? After all, we are expressively told just how dangerous the Path of Enigmata is, so if someone goes out of their way to lessen these damages, they would be attracting a lot of attention, so much attention that Mythus the Enigmata may interfere themselves.
The only question I have now is … if her name is indeed an Anagram, what would the unscrambled version be?
Now that you point it out, the way shes going about it doesnt seem very.. complete. She does seem to obscure her face but not her name, gender or her associations with the genius society. Theres a lot of theories about her now being on the side of enigmata give what she tries to obscure but as you mentioned she doesnt seem to be doing a good job or rather a complete job of obscuring herself.
Erudition is the quality of having great knowledge, if shes is still part of the genius society (since im assuming nous hasnt kicked her out) but displaying actions close to the enigmata, maybe shes just hoarding knowledge. Removing information from the universe but collecting it under her own sphere of control. That would kinda fit both paths ideals in a sense, so maybe shes just playing both sides but to what end we dont really know
Maybe working for another aeon who decided best way to get rid of knowledge would be to start at the top
Oooh I didnt consider that, there is an aeon who wants to obscure knowledge maybe she switched sides 😮
Istg if screwellum dies I'm going to morb
You and me both buddy, he must be protected at all costs
@@Maevix3142 he is babygirl
Would you be interested in revisiting these theories now that we have the story from Gold & Gears?
There is barely information about Polka Kakamond to even start theorycrafting.
And yet, here we are 😂. But in all honesty there really is very little info, I just found her story interesting and wanted to speculate
hopefully as the story progresses we'll meet her or at least get more info on the Genius Society @@Maevix3142
@@Maevix3142More SIMU update in future which some Genius Society members info update would be good and needed!
My theory: She joined dark side, because Mythus offered her cookies.
Well maybe not cookies, but I still think it's valid theory.
Mythus offered her the idea of cookies, but he didnt confirm it lol. In all seriousness it could be possible, though I wonder why nous hasnt kicked her out if unless it didnt know of her betrayal
My crack theory is shes being puppeted or working with the enigmata
Enigmata sounds interesting, maybe she switched sides and feels not everything should be known. Now that i think about it maybe shes working with the balance path (dont recall the name atm) and is just ofsetting the societies activities
@@Maevix3142 both enigmata and hooh interfering in the only eon that in mechanical Nature is a fascinating thought, in my part i Just really want to know more of the history fictionologists.
She became the follower of Path Of Enigmata. Because their path is about a mystery of the universe
Very possible, though I wonder why Nous hasnt kicked her out of the genius society. Maybe he hasnt found out yet?
@@Maevix3142 well, Nous is just realy don't care about them. Even Nous already know everything about the universe but his follower have a bit misunderstanding, they thought Nous need their help to discover the mytery of the universe but in reality Nous alredy know it all. Yet Nous never say anything about it
That is because one of the CORE mentality of Erudition is about selfishness. All Genius Society member except 1 person is all realy selfish and never uncover their own project. Just look at Herta Space Station that basically just a trash bin from her
In my opinion she gives me Rita vibes. She is someone from honkai impact 3.
Excuse my lack of knowledge but who is Rita, sadly im not a honkai impact 3rd player 😁
theory: she's against nous
Possible, though I wonder why Nous hasnt kicked her out yet from the society
@@Maevix3142 if you're a sentient quantum computer would it matter what mortals do?
i cant take polka seriously. Her name is literally "Shit Moon" in german
Hahaha does it really translate to that? It reminds me of that husky meme moon moon
@@Maevix3142 Kaka means something like poop , children mostly use it.
Mond means moon. I can imagine it means something else in any Slavic languages.
I wish she had a sharingan like Itachi's eyes
Why a sharingan specifically? 🤔
i can fix her
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