For people who cant make this tank work - heres the trick: load up fully, only fire 1 shot. Only clip out when you know you have time to relocate, reposition, disengage for full reload, and then when ur team eventually crumbles at the end, empty the mag for ur final bit of damage yours truly, the guy that keeps throwing MOE percentage in this tank and then malding.
LOVE this post 😂. 'Do as i say not as i do' type tank... i keep thinking 'only one shot' but i keep emptying the mag thinking 'i might get this kill' 😂
Gun is bit derpy. Dpm is poor if you dont have disibline to hold shots. Armor is pretty good. Mobility is exelent. Gundepression is good. Ammo selection of 225 standard 270 gold and good he is also very nice. Bz is considered the most broken tank because it can do 50 kph while boosting and for big burst damage. Bisonte has similar gunhandling way better ammo similar burst potential and it does 50 kph all the time. Very underrated tank. Statisticaly one of the best credit making heavy tanks in the game.
BZ is broken because any monkey can snipe a cupola for 850dmg clipping someone out with 3 penning shots and knowing when to and when not to takes skill.
I hate that tank i have 2 mark on it every time a new system a new equipment new skill anything come to the game i tried it to make it work , tried with full bond 6 skill crew everything , i wanted to love i just become to hate it more . I rether play with my IS-6 its out of meta but at least feels good .
You can't snipe with that gun. Also, it's pen is so bad that even weak points often only take 100 damage. The tank has been massively powercrept.@@latvius7600
as someone who plays bisonte alot , players that dont understand it tends to empty the mag so fast loosing all of their dpm , people need to understand that you only need to empty mag when u feel like its gonna kill the target , and you have enough time to fully reload , not full sending the clip to oblivion in the moment you see a target.... love the vid
you have to build the tank to full gun handling. So I use Vents-Aiming-V-Stabs. Get the best quality you can and then the gun feels ok. This is my go to hvy tank in the game, and it is my 2nd most played tank with i think abot 800 games in it never shot the last shot unless you relocate, or die. And it is not a tank for goldspammers because it has a very good standart round....
I learned on Pzk7 (14-15s reaload for 560 alpha) that you gotta spec those tanks to hit all shots, not fire them as fast as possible. I believe Italian tanks are created with similar thought, but they don't have the possibility to create the 90%+ accuracy positions like superheavies do...
I really want to like the Italian heavies, but for some reason their guns are so trollish and derpy. Italian shells just LOVE hitting the edges of the reticle
This is the only heavy tank I really enjoy using, and my only tank I've ever got a Radley Walter medal in. Even though it's gun will troll you, the flexibility with being able to dish out 1000 burst damage if you need it means that it can always go down swinging, making it a wonderful credit earner, even against high tiers.
i usually run close combat to try and squeeze a bit more out of the reload, but it is very dificult to get in 50 m range of an oponent while still being safe
For me it's almost on the frustration level of the gun of 130pm with the SU moments. Only with Bisonte they are pasta moments and you have extra beeping to annoy you to eternity
I really like the Bisonte I just wish it had slightly better dpm on any of the shots and -0.02 base gun dispersion, that would make it more consistent for me. The Bisonte has my second highest dmg game at 5.2k and my 4th highest combined game at 7.6k. If I wanna make it work I do have to concentrate and focus, if I don’t the tank performs terribly, other tanks when I’m just playing chill are much better but the Bisonte is a good tank for me when I’m on my game.
This comment is for me really helpfull. I am still doubting about it, but i guess i will get it. It also means i will have a crew trainer for Italian heavies. (credits is the bonus)
The biggest problem I found with Italian tanks while marking the tree is the lack of dpm. They need slower games to perform consistently and the meta doesn't support that.
Would of thought a unicom player would be aware of the reducing dpm the deeper into the mag you go, its like THE THING with this tank, its so frustrating listining to these guys rag on the DPM but the fools are blasting all the rounds out then complain about the 14.7 second reload... Use it as a SINGLE SHOT, reload 10 seconds, with two rounds INSURANCE only!!! Never fire full clip unless its to clear a flank, or you can dump and run.
I don't think point of this tank is to have high dpm. You have 3 shots at all time, if of course you're not dumping it all the time like a dummy... 3 shots, that you can empty into someone who has 1 shot only. That of course has to come at some cost... Which is dpm... So it all falls down to how you manage to spent your shots. Whether you actually learn to fire 1 shot to keep up highest possible dpm and save other shots for major moments, like finishing enemies, saving your teammates, etc...
I don’t have the patience to play this tank. I dump three shells every time because I don’t know when I’m gonna have the next opportunity to do damage.
8:00 why they don't make clip intuition reload just fast clip load, half-time. But you can start shooting any time. Ah, yes, they don't care about game mechanics that don't bring them money)
The Auto-Reloader mechanic is nerfed to death on italian heavies, the reloads taking so long and intuition not working. This and the derpy gun handling of the Bisconte makes it for a tank i rarely play, not my favourite. On the good side Bisconte has some armor and the mobility is kind of ok.
OFC it is reaload simulator when you are constantly interrupting your reload :D And fck hardening on Bisonte man. You need EXP. turbo, Vents and stab !
Mouzakrobat and other german youtubers are the reason this tank is so bad, when wargaming teased this tank, they were fear mongering that the bisonte will be an autoloader chieftain, fast, unpenable turret and autoloading, when we got an actual peak at the tank it was the most below average tier 8 in a while.
Very MM dependent. It's an OK armored medium tank at tier 9&10. Don't play it as a heavy unless against tier 6&7. Toss up at its own tier. HEAT is required at tier and above.
LOL It's no wonder why Daki hates tanks like these - He's constantly shooting at everything, always at the bottom of the clip! 🤣 It's a FANTASTIC tank if you learn trigger discipline.
When it comes to gun handling and how it feels ingame, bisonte has one of the worst gun in the entirety of tier 8. There is literally not many tanks u can mention that worse apart from Caliban, AMBT and a few more like that. I swear Skoda T56 feels better for example.
Yeah same man. I really wanted to like them, but the auto-reloading is so bad nowadays. You have to be SOOO disciplined to NOT take shot, it even hurts 😂 But then you don't even need the auto-reloading mechanic.. so yeah kinda pointless 😂
bro i do not know how to make a report but this is what happened. many times a russian language player terrorising its teamate by harrashing so we can not play and focus the game. the name was vdr_1984[_XAVI], Obstany_A..[_XAVI], mef78ton, KO_DAEDLY. EU Server. they dont fire shot to enemy. i dont know their purpose
For people who cant make this tank work - heres the trick:
load up fully, only fire 1 shot. Only clip out when you know you have time to relocate, reposition, disengage for full reload, and then when ur team eventually crumbles at the end, empty the mag for ur final bit of damage
yours truly,
the guy that keeps throwing MOE percentage in this tank and then malding.
Yup, just literally pretend you only have 1 shot. ONLY fire those extra shells to finish off an important target, or if you're about to die.
LOVE this post 😂. 'Do as i say not as i do' type tank... i keep thinking 'only one shot' but i keep emptying the mag thinking 'i might get this kill' 😂
@@unclepaulhahrrgis8730 i mean im still top 100 so
In fact you are saying be patience :), i start to learn it but still bad at it.
@@erikaverink8418 it's more than patience ngl
Gun is bit derpy. Dpm is poor if you dont have disibline to hold shots. Armor is pretty good. Mobility is exelent. Gundepression is good. Ammo selection of 225 standard 270 gold and good he is also very nice. Bz is considered the most broken tank because it can do 50 kph while boosting and for big burst damage. Bisonte has similar gunhandling way better ammo similar burst potential and it does 50 kph all the time. Very underrated tank. Statisticaly one of the best credit making heavy tanks in the game.
I personally hate it. The gun is awfull and the lacking dpm makes this tank too situational in the current fast meta...
BZ is broken because any monkey can snipe a cupola for 850dmg clipping someone out with 3 penning shots and knowing when to and when not to takes skill.
I hate that tank i have 2 mark on it every time a new system a new equipment new skill anything come to the game i tried it to make it work , tried with full bond 6 skill crew everything , i wanted to love i just become to hate it more . I rether play with my IS-6 its out of meta but at least feels good .
You can't snipe with that gun. Also, it's pen is so bad that even weak points often only take 100 damage. The tank has been massively powercrept.@@latvius7600
@@latvius7600if you think that BZ-176 is easy to play and everyone can perform in a BZ, you are wrong
as someone who plays bisonte alot , players that dont understand it tends to empty the mag so fast loosing all of their dpm , people need to understand that you only need to empty mag when u feel like its gonna kill the target , and you have enough time to fully reload , not full sending the clip to oblivion in the moment you see a target.... love the vid
you have to build the tank to full gun handling.
So I use Vents-Aiming-V-Stabs. Get the best quality you can and then the gun feels ok.
This is my go to hvy tank in the game, and it is my 2nd most played tank with i think abot 800 games in it
never shot the last shot unless you relocate, or die. And it is not a tank for goldspammers because it has a very good standart round....
That KV-5 fight the first shot looked like it def hit and the second shot went wide to the right.
first shot is just typical bisonte moment
I learned on Pzk7 (14-15s reaload for 560 alpha) that you gotta spec those tanks to hit all shots, not fire them as fast as possible. I believe Italian tanks are created with similar thought, but they don't have the possibility to create the 90%+ accuracy positions like superheavies do...
This tank is the best. I remember having some absolutely massive games in it back on Minsk. I wish they'd bring that map back.
I think this tank is a bit of a sleeper. I love my bisonte
I really want to like the Italian heavies, but for some reason their guns are so trollish and derpy. Italian shells just LOVE hitting the edges of the reticle
This is the only heavy tank I really enjoy using, and my only tank I've ever got a Radley Walter medal in. Even though it's gun will troll you, the flexibility with being able to dish out 1000 burst damage if you need it means that it can always go down swinging, making it a wonderful credit earner, even against high tiers.
i usually run close combat to try and squeeze a bit more out of the reload, but it is very dificult to get in 50 m range of an oponent while still being safe
For me it's almost on the frustration level of the gun of 130pm with the SU moments. Only with Bisonte they are pasta moments and you have extra beeping to annoy you to eternity
I really like the Bisonte I just wish it had slightly better dpm on any of the shots and -0.02 base gun dispersion, that would make it more consistent for me. The Bisonte has my second highest dmg game at 5.2k and my 4th highest combined game at 7.6k. If I wanna make it work I do have to concentrate and focus, if I don’t the tank performs terribly, other tanks when I’m just playing chill are much better but the Bisonte is a good tank for me when I’m on my game.
Tbh I think I should be able to use intuition to switch the full clip as well or choose to only switch the shell I have loaded one at a time.
This comment is for me really helpfull.
I am still doubting about it, but i guess i will get it.
It also means i will have a crew trainer for Italian heavies. (credits is the bonus)
The biggest problem I found with Italian tanks while marking the tree is the lack of dpm. They need slower games to perform consistently and the meta doesn't support that.
Would of thought a unicom player would be aware of the reducing dpm the deeper into the mag you go, its like THE THING with this tank, its so frustrating listining to these guys rag on the DPM but the fools are blasting all the rounds out then complain about the 14.7 second reload...
Use it as a SINGLE SHOT, reload 10 seconds, with two rounds INSURANCE only!!!
Never fire full clip unless its to clear a flank, or you can dump and run.
Do you recon using t3 exp turbo instead of the normal turbo might fix the gun handling a little?
My favourite tier 8 heavy! The only one I've 3-marked that isn't a garbage tank with low reqs (Vipera, T34, 7501 etc)
I don't think point of this tank is to have high dpm.
You have 3 shots at all time, if of course you're not dumping it all the time like a dummy...
3 shots, that you can empty into someone who has 1 shot only. That of course has to come at some cost... Which is dpm...
So it all falls down to how you manage to spent your shots. Whether you actually learn to fire 1 shot to keep up highest possible dpm and save other shots for major moments, like finishing enemies, saving your teammates, etc...
*the aim time is like Skoda T56 , both have same hun handling and its hard to get 2.500 damage and consistent performance*
I don’t have the patience to play this tank. I dump three shells every time because I don’t know when I’m gonna have the next opportunity to do damage.
Bisonte is my credit printing machine. Go all gun handling setup and it’s an easy mark using only AP imo.
Only good for close combat !! And dont empty the mag, otherwise you can play loading simulator 😄
12:07 it's just server can't register where your aim was)
I really dislike the gun handling of this tank
it’s actually nice for a HT comparing with defender and other tanks.
@siagraphy Depends on what you are used to. I just cant stand this
8:00 why they don't make clip intuition reload just fast clip load, half-time. But you can start shooting any time. Ah, yes, they don't care about game mechanics that don't bring them money)
The Auto-Reloader mechanic is nerfed to death on italian heavies, the reloads taking so long and intuition not working. This and the derpy gun handling of the Bisconte makes it for a tank i rarely play, not my favourite. On the good side Bisconte has some armor and the mobility is kind of ok.
OFC it is reaload simulator when you are constantly interrupting your reload :D And fck hardening on Bisonte man. You need EXP. turbo, Vents and stab !
Mouzakrobat and other german youtubers are the reason this tank is so bad, when wargaming teased this tank, they were fear mongering that the bisonte will be an autoloader chieftain, fast, unpenable turret and autoloading, when we got an actual peak at the tank it was the most below average tier 8 in a while.
I am not a Bisonte enjoyer either but it is better than the Toro.
Another classic banger dakillzor video
Legend!
Beastonte, Pissonte there is no or in between
Luv it. A bit slow tho’.
slow? Brother it arrives to the heavy flank like 1st or 2nd
but 703 II still better?
Very MM dependent. It's an OK armored medium tank at tier 9&10. Don't play it as a heavy unless against tier 6&7. Toss up at its own tier. HEAT is required at tier and above.
LOL It's no wonder why Daki hates tanks like these - He's constantly shooting at everything, always at the bottom of the clip! 🤣
It's a FANTASTIC tank if you learn trigger discipline.
love this tank, its so good.
I like this tank, good videos
When it comes to gun handling and how it feels ingame, bisonte has one of the worst gun in the entirety of tier 8.
There is literally not many tanks u can mention that worse apart from Caliban, AMBT and a few more like that. I swear Skoda T56 feels better for example.
I feel daki is a bit quick on his shots.. sorry (love you man)
very underrated tank
I know many good Players , but your cool playing the Best ;)
You are just OP, the tank is sh*t 😂
beautyfull tank
I hate autoreloaders , traditional autoloaders are better. They lose so much dpm the deeper you go into the mag.
Yeah same man.
I really wanted to like them, but the auto-reloading is so bad nowadays.
You have to be SOOO disciplined to NOT take shot, it even hurts 😂
But then you don't even need the auto-reloading mechanic.. so yeah kinda pointless 😂
DPY
Damage Per Year HT 😂
the gun is bad but in total its a good tank(armour,speed and clip potential)
CC matchmaker did know that tier 8 plays with tier 10, too?!)) Thanks for showing tanks from actual deals!
Reload to long for me
Hi
I don't care for it
Terrible tank, gets ammoracked 5x as much as any other tank.
bro i do not know how to make a report but this is what happened. many times a russian language player terrorising its teamate by harrashing so we can not play and focus the game. the name was vdr_1984[_XAVI], Obstany_A..[_XAVI], mef78ton, KO_DAEDLY. EU Server. they dont fire shot to enemy. i dont know their purpose