Definitely an impressive toilet. I've wondered how one of these would fair on pressure assist or a high tank. hope you get the opportunity to do some more tests on it.
I have to say, I’m impressed with this toilet’s performance. We recently got one of these for our master bathroom and I was wondering if it was actually any good. I guess tho it’s not explosive diarrhea proof tho. That honestly doesn’t surprise me.
This did SUPER AMAZING, but the bowl rinse and the getting out of the bowl thing needs a LOT of work though. Lol. The trapway looks similar to an American Standard Cadet 2.
A good test for me would be is how far it pushes the effluent down a 3" pipe sloped per code. Even better a 4" pipe sloped per code. That is what would tell me if it has a good flush.
I think it should have spun the rimless jet counter-clockwise as thar direction always performs better due to Coriolis assist. For the future, please place a drop of food dye in the tank so we can see the bowl rinse as that's hard to see in some of hour vids when you do the first performance flush.
Do you think this is same exact as Home Depot Elmbrook? I'm looking for a reliable swirl/360/tornado flusher. Seems like the Cimarron is not liked. And not sure of the longevity/headache of the double flapper vormax? Elmbrook is $199 seems like the best deal? Or would you all pick something else? Thanks!
The trapway on the Elmbrook seems to be the same, i do highly recommend putting a normal flapper flush valve to install in it and adjust the water level higher than factory setting to get the best flush out of it
I usually don’t like commenting more than once on a video, but I’m hopefully getting a revolution 360 Ellison very soon, we are doing bathroom renovations in my house, i have already bought a FluidMaster 2 inch adjustable flapper assembly for it as the AquaPistons are dog crap, i will however be keeping the AquaPiston, i have some plans for it
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations Update: I’m getting the Elliston tomorrow (Tuesday) and we’ll have the plumber installed it on Wednesday, i will replace the aqua piston for the flapper because getting it installed and i will adjust the overflow to be like 1cm below the handle and have the water line pretty high to have it flush perfectly, the flapper will also be set to let the most water through
Yet another example of a modern toilet that needs nothing except a longer flush to beat the pants off any gravity fed classic toilet in every way. 1.28gpf doesn’t cut it for a siphonic, no matter what, regardless of the manufacturer. That could only work on a washdown.
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations If you lived in a state where 1.6 was illegal, what toilet would you choose? I need a new toilet, but live where 1.6 is illegal.
@@ericwilliams1595 yeah, i did get one of these toilets and put a normal flapper and raised the water level higher than factory setting in it and it got rid of all the flush problems,
I got one of these and a $120 American Standard Reliant, both are still in the box, AS is not as durable but I'm concerned about Kuhler flushes, would tweaking the water level help with the weak flushing?
@@marytehrani2059Personally I'd replace the AquaPiston with a conventional flapper (2") and set the water level as high as possible without leaking anything. Then give it a go.
Overall, i think toilet is pretty decent actually. And it's better than the cimmaron rev 360 Only thing that sucks however, is the awfully short flush like this thing litteraly needs 1.6 GPF to make the flush a touch stronger (also 1.28 GPF is just not enough for this kind of toilet) Rating: 6/10.
I got one very recently and i am putting a flapper in it, i will be posting videos, but not major tests as it is going to be installed in my bathroom, so i can’t really do performance tests, but the ones in this video already prove the toilet to be very good, but i will be doing some flush tests
The problem with these 1.28 GPF toilets is the flush is too quick paired with insufficient water. If it had a flapper with a float set to the bottom, it would do better on bowl rinse. They should get rid of those awful aqua pistons
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations Owen, I picked up a Kohler Wellworth Ingenium for $20 and restored it. Definitely a deal and has a great flush. I'll be replacing a Crane Galaxy with it
Can you please 🙏 do tests on the Kohler Cimmaron Revolution 360? I know they don’t preform well, but I just want you to do tests on the Kohler Cimarron Revolution 360 if that’s possible.
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations agreed, this low flow bullshit isn't working out and they keep on doing it. Half these commodes can't even take most of these tests like they did back then.
Handled the tests like a champion! Congrats to Kohler for making this toilet unstoppable!
I wish the flush was longer though
Definitely an impressive toilet. I've wondered how one of these would fair on pressure assist or a high tank. hope you get the opportunity to do some more tests on it.
Same
Wow that’s an awesome performer and it’s the FIRST toilet that I saw to pass a Washcloth and Grocery bag
I've seen a number of them pass it but this one did perfectly
They definitely improved the bowl clearance. I remember the highlines and wellworth class 5’s used to leave a lot more then this behind
It's really sad that this is considered an improvement though, I wonder how it would have done on actual dirt instead of ash.
I like the round trap way The performance is amazing
Ikr
Overall this was extremely impressive, the only thing it needs is a normal flapper
Yeah, and better rinse but it's pretty good as it is
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorationslmao
It does not need a normal flapper the Aquapiston is better
@@AndrewGenovese-lo3kwthe aquapiston is far from good, idk what’s going through your mind
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorationswhat toliet should I get ?
This would be so interesting on a high tank!
Ikr!
Yay!! Tests!
I test every different toilet I get!
The trapway opening honestly reminds me of a Kohler Kenwyn.
They do look similar
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations Do the kohler ellison vs any of your toilets
I’m impressed with this toilet overall. I guess Kohler is upping their game on 1.28’s
Sadly that still haven't figured out how to make them have a good flush and good performance
This is one of the best newer kohler toilet in terms of performance
It does perform very well
That did very well
Yeah, I was so glad to get this!
I have to say, I’m impressed with this toilet’s performance. We recently got one of these for our master bathroom and I was wondering if it was actually any good. I guess tho it’s not explosive diarrhea proof tho. That honestly doesn’t surprise me.
Maybe on 1.6 gallons it would be
This did SUPER AMAZING, but the bowl rinse and the getting out of the bowl thing needs a LOT of work though. Lol. The trapway looks similar to an American Standard Cadet 2.
Yeah, they fixed two problems but forgot the last one.
Interesting toilet. And I agree with TFL and TFTF that the flapper should be replaced.
I agree too
these just showed up at my local lowes yesterday
Nice!
The corbelle has awesome bowl rince
Nice!
Finally!!!
I always post them a week apart.
A good test for me would be is how far it pushes the effluent down a 3" pipe sloped per code.
Even better a 4" pipe sloped per code. That is what would tell me if it has a good flush.
I have a longer pipe that I use for tests now. I don't set them up on bricks anymore.
I do like 360 toilets because of their cleaning technology and I like this
It would be nice if they made one on 1.6.
Impressive toilet!
It's very interesting too
I think it should have spun the rimless jet counter-clockwise as thar direction always performs better due to Coriolis assist. For the future, please place a drop of food dye in the tank so we can see the bowl rinse as that's hard to see in some of hour vids when you do the first performance flush.
A food coloring test would be interesting
Do you think this is same exact as Home Depot Elmbrook? I'm looking for a reliable swirl/360/tornado flusher. Seems like the Cimarron is not liked. And not sure of the longevity/headache of the double flapper vormax? Elmbrook is $199 seems like the best deal? Or would you all pick something else? Thanks!
I'm not sure what the Elmbrook looks like now. I haven't seen a new one yet.
The trapway on the Elmbrook seems to be the same, i do highly recommend putting a normal flapper flush valve to install in it and adjust the water level higher than factory setting to get the best flush out of it
Did awesome.
Overall a good toilet.
I was surprised by the performance
I like the 4k videos
I'm glad! There are more to come.
Reminds me of a 1.6 GPF Cadet 2
Yeah, that trapway opening is interesting
Do you think these are better than the Cimarron Rev 360s?
Probably, I've heard that those have clogging problems.
I suppose this has a fully glazed trapway, because the opening looks too small, but performs like a champ.
I'm not sure
Cool toilet
Agreed
NICE!!
Performs really well and I’m on a different account
Ikr
@@CARma193 who are you lol
Some guy…
@Idk oh, you said you were on a different account so i figured you must have been someone i would recognize lol
I think this is a very good toilet it just needs a longer flush and bowl rinse
It will be interesting to see what BTR does with it.
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations I would be highly interested to see what he dose with it to.
You should do an overfilled tank with this one
I couldn't because of the flush valve.
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations oh
Toilet did very good on those test
Yeah! Except the last one.
I usually don’t like commenting more than once on a video, but I’m hopefully getting a revolution 360 Ellison very soon, we are doing bathroom renovations in my house, i have already bought a FluidMaster 2 inch adjustable flapper assembly for it as the AquaPistons are dog crap, i will however be keeping the AquaPiston, i have some plans for it
That's cool!
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations
Update: I’m getting the Elliston tomorrow (Tuesday) and we’ll have the plumber installed it on Wednesday, i will replace the aqua piston for the flapper because getting it installed and i will adjust the overflow to be like 1cm below the handle and have the water line pretty high to have it flush perfectly, the flapper will also be set to let the most water through
What toilet is on your pro file picture?
My 1936 Bowers Pottery toilet
Btw did you get a new phone because know we can watch on 4k
I did get a new phone but not too recently. I just set the camera to 4k because my videos started having problems.
Yet another example of a modern toilet that needs nothing except a longer flush to beat the pants off any gravity fed classic toilet in every way.
1.28gpf doesn’t cut it for a siphonic, no matter what, regardless of the manufacturer. That could only work on a washdown.
1.28 is just too low. 1.6 is the bare minimum for a toilet to function properly
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations Still, this is way better than the original 1.6 class 5. They should just make 1.6 in this body.
@@Supcharged Agreed
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations If you lived in a state where 1.6 was illegal, what toilet would you choose? I need a new toilet, but live where 1.6 is illegal.
@@natalienichols2760 Project Source Pro Flush
A 3.6g flapper on that would improve it by a lot most likely
Definitely
Would be a good 'is it worth it'video... for those of us that bought it
@@ericwilliams1595 yeah, i did get one of these toilets and put a normal flapper and raised the water level higher than factory setting in it and it got rid of all the flush problems,
Is there a screw to set the water level higher?
Yeah, on the fill valve.
I got one of these and a $120 American Standard Reliant, both are still in the box, AS is not as durable but I'm concerned about Kuhler flushes, would tweaking the water level help with the weak flushing?
@@marytehrani2059Personally I'd replace the AquaPiston with a conventional flapper (2") and set the water level as high as possible without leaking anything. Then give it a go.
Overall, i think toilet is pretty decent actually. And it's better than the cimmaron rev 360 Only thing that sucks however, is the awfully short flush like this thing litteraly needs 1.6 GPF to make the flush a touch stronger (also 1.28 GPF is just not enough for this kind of toilet) Rating: 6/10.
Many 1.28 gallon toilets need some help
Ads definitely over exaggerated the bowl rinse EDIT: the flush
Yeah, quite underwhelming. The performance is nice though.
Very good, minus getting the ash out of the bowl. On a conventional flapper this thing would kick major ass.
I would be interested to see how well this works on normal use
I got one very recently and i am putting a flapper in it, i will be posting videos, but not major tests as it is going to be installed in my bathroom, so i can’t really do performance tests, but the ones in this video already prove the toilet to be very good, but i will be doing some flush tests
The flush is 7 / 10 but the bowl rinse is 9 / 10
I just wish they were designed a little better.
Idk I have one should I get a normal flapper
Definitely
Was it cracked on the right?
Yep
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations Why are some of the toilets you get smashed or cracked? Do people just not care about how they ship things to you?
I am courious how this would flush on a 5 gallon tank
Probably a lot more powerfully
can't wait to see the video of this on a 5 gallon tank!
It would defo destroy any toilet that was originally designed for 5gpf lol
5:02 lmao
I've seen some toilets flush like this
2:58 me too
Exactly
Looks like a Cadet II.
Yeah, it's interesting
It has the aquapiston
One of Kohler's biggest failures
it left some behind because 1.28 isn't enough water
True
1.28 isn’t enough water for any toilet no matter how they’re designed
The problem with these 1.28 GPF toilets is the flush is too quick paired with insufficient water. If it had a flapper with a float set to the bottom, it would do better on bowl rinse. They should get rid of those awful aqua pistons
I agree completely
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations Owen, I picked up a Kohler Wellworth Ingenium for $20 and restored it. Definitely a deal and has a great flush. I'll be replacing a Crane Galaxy with it
@@brensdaman926 Awesome!
I have the cimmaron revolution 360
Does it work well?
You Forgot the Glazed unknown American Standard.
I tested that one too.
Can you please 🙏 do tests on the Kohler Cimmaron Revolution 360? I know they don’t preform well, but I just want you to do tests on the Kohler Cimarron Revolution 360 if that’s possible.
If I get one, I will most certainly test it.
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations Ok/OK/Okay, thank you.🙏😊☺️.
The toilet literally relays on the siphon jet lol
For sure
You should buy a American Standard Vormax! They have a better bowl rinse than these. Also, the vormax has TWO FLAPPERS!!!
If I can get one
Ok
4:56 glacier bay moment
5:59 it needs a higher water level and a 1.6 flapper
They definitely need more water or else they will end up being glorified GBs
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations yeah, I agree
try it on a conventional flapper
I'll let BTR try that.
I have an Elliston Rev.360 with a normal flapper installed in my bathroom, you can find a video of it on my channel
How. Just how. I thought that was the worst flush iv ever seen and then it passes all that. Wth
Kohler stepped up their performance
I mean the small tanks don't work. They keep making them as if they forgot how good they used to be. At least it took most of the tests flawlessly.
They really need to knock off the water consumption garbage and go back to making good toilets.
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations agreed, this low flow bullshit isn't working out and they keep on doing it. Half these commodes can't even take most of these tests like they did back then.
Who was last new In the toilet community?
I'm not sure
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorationsprobably me
I am too possibly
Sence april
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations Hulk plumbing
When this is over I hope your not making Pizza dough or something....😮
I'm not...?
PLEASE DON'T DISSECT THIS BEUATY! :(
It's unusable so that's probably what will happen.
@@minushkarodriguez193 I don't want to sell a toilet that can't be used
Damn that shit looks goofy
Actually no its kinda cool
Ikr
aqua piston needs to go, the short flush don’t help kohler
Facts
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That is not a flapper.
It's an Aqua Piston
Which is a canister flush valve
@@darfieldzone5309 That's another name for the Aqua Piston.
@@OCC_Plumbing_and_Restorations I know