Rather than looking to technology to extend the life of modern industrial civilization we ought to be looking at its ability to buy time and to slow us down in the transition. We need to look towards our feet. Literally look down at the land under our feet. It is our life’s blood. We need to build resiliency in our homes and community. We should be thinking about adaptation, conservation, land stewardship, and feeding ourselves. We need to decouple our survival from global supply chains wherever and whenever possible.
@@megaphonistanofficial1773 The transition is coming whether we like it or not. Just because the situation continues to get worse doesn’t mean we should give up or stop trying to slow the pace. Mitigation and adaptation are the only means of survival for the human race. I’m not so interested in preserving what we typically think of as civilization. We existed on this planet for hundreds of thousands of years without it. I’m more interested in making the transition or collapse as humane as possible. The slower the better. Unless you are in the Derrick Jensen camp of just tearing it all down ASAP. He may be right that it would be better for the planet but it would be hell on earth for the almost 8 billion humans if that happens.
There’s a mental trick a person plays inwardly when s/he invokes the imperial “we” - a coarse version of which is, “Teamwork is a bunch of people doing what I say.”
@@atticustay1 Tell that to the jerks in pick-ups with Trump flags flying yelling "ni__er" at my kids. That didn't happen in this town since it stopped publicly being a KKK outpost and became a "high class" ski resort. At least they learned to shut up for a couple decades.
The problem is, when I tell people how serious the situation is they think I'm crazy. Nobody believes we're this close to the point of no return. I feel like those people on the street telling everyone about the bible and how we're all going to hell...
No...mankind has forgotten the Creator...GOD.! Think about,...there is the Bible...his commentments...to follow is easy...!!! Think about...soon. G O D means G O O D...guys.
Well, Mulan, if YOU actually read the IPCC reports for YOURSELF, you will realise the situation is nowhere near as bad as this guy makes out! Try to think for yourself!
@@uterauch3433 Oh PLEASE! You crazy God-botherers have absolutely ZERO idea about anything. Go back to worshipping trees, or rocks, or slime or whatever crap you believe in. Leave scientific matters to people who understand them!
Structural change may appear to change in 6 months, but it requires a long period of build up. As an analogy remember the penetration of mobile phones in the UK. In 1993 almost no one had one, by 1955 almost everyone had one. However, the first mobile phone was sold in 1984. That 6 month transformation had a 10 year build up.
I was really hoping for solutions, instead we were given a talk on how to be disruptive. Sure I get the idea of critical mass that can force the governments hand... but what would their play be? What action can they take to 'stop the climate crisis'? What actions do we want them to take? Maybe that's beyond the scope of this video but I would've loved to hear what we'd actually be aiming for with our disruption.
Regarding the low quantity of people who watched the previous video to the end: How about breaking the info down into shorter 5 min videos? The algorithm definitely seems to favor that and people generally prefer to watch, them I think
Just earlier today I started a dialogue with someone important to me in my business about how people make decisions based on emotion, and emotional communication, along with stories, are what change people's minds. She agreed. I listened to Roger until the end, while bottling my mead.
Emotions are not the best basis for making decisions, logic is. If you apply logic to any of Hallam's ramblings, you will realize what utter nonsense they are.
@@enerjohnsavior3227 Many things, but in this context I believe that the truth is important. "Winning people over with emotional arguments" is not a way of finding the truth, it is a way of indoctrinating people into believing something that may not actually be true.
@@squod1 It doesn't take a genious to work out what Andy was asking for and still you failed so maybe try to be more humble next time. Your answer is not only useless and arrogant, it is also wrong. What you're talking about is the holodomor, not the kind of events Roger is talking about, nor what Andy asked for. And to make it even more wrong, the holodomor was not what led to the protests that led to the dissolution of the USSR either so you're just wrong on every level.
My only fear is, once the Government is overthrown, the people´s Assembly that will ensue, who can guarantee that it would be one that is going to promote the Planet salvation, or one that would simply bring more tirany? Like what happened after the French Revolution. Or I am seeing the things wrong?
I don't think that the plan is to replace the government with a citizens assembly although the way XR talk about it , I'm not surprised that's what people believe . As a system of governance , it would be absurd . The assembly is more of a tool that informs the government , it's not really that revolutionary . XR doesn't even talk about how to improve the system as far as I know .
This video doesn’t explain how to stop the climate crisis but how to build public will. There is no discussion of the scientific and tech knowledge necessary to change what’s going on. Still interesting.
Thanks Roger appreciate your persistent message and fresh angles. To hear that there are likely lots of angry and despairing people awaiting the touchpaper to get galvanised into action, gave me some cause for optimism.
@@connerhughes1435 Still not hearing any solutions. The 'radical green agenda' is now mostly about the Critical Theory of Social Justice, not the environment. When the so-called 'greens' actively campaign against nuclear energy and genetic modification of crop plants, it is obvious that they are not actually interested in solving the problem. In the 1960's, a member of the radical group Students for a Democratic Society wrote 'The issue is never the issue. the issue is always the revolution'. If you watch the livestreams of the recent XR event in London, which are on their RUclips channel, you will see that sentiment alive and well today.
Can I just personally try to communicate that there ARE nations that DO ACT way beyond the Paris climate agreement and DO better than average while doing it. Dont listen to what your politicians SAY, but what they DO, when it comes to this. Whatever nation you are in. Please hold your own nations climate efforts up against what has been decided in Denmark. Denmark ARE leading the way for Western industrialized nations! Let me inform/remind you. The basic promise, all in the Paris climate agreement have signed onto are: 50% reduction of greenhouse gasses (like CO2 and Methane) from 1990 level, before 2050. In Denmark we KNOW that this demand fulfilled are NOT ENOUGH to halt the climate changes already set in motion. It makes me proud to say that Denmark, in 2019, approved in parlament with 167 for, out of 179, to voluntarily, nationwide, reduce CO2 emissions with 70% from 1990 level before 2030! That is just 9 years from now! Inside the same decision the Danish parlament also have agreed that Denmark are NOT allowing themselves to buy CO2 quotas to deliver the result "on paper". It has to be a genuine and real reduction. So its a massive improvement and what the climate and the global population needs that ALL countries do. THAT is how you TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! On top of that, Denmark have oil in its underground and they have, approved in parlament a few months ago. Valid immediately, to also decide to stop their planned oilsector explorations and have decided that any oil in their underground are going to be stored CO2 that never will be released. They keep their current oil platforms (under the Paris agreement) but have decided to decommission platforms either, as they get to old or the wells they have under them run dry. Denmarks change away from fossile fuels have been focused on land and off shore windmills. Off shore windmill parks are large scale where they are going. The overall vision are to be more than 100% selfsustained with sustainable green energy and usage and eventually export both sustainable electricity and hydrogen. Denmark would be able to ramp up our plans considerably reg. sustainable electricity and hydrogen production pretty fast if other nations or companies would commit to same longterm deals as they do on oil. Our decades long experience raising off shore windmill parks means we have the knowledgeable workforce to respond relatively fast and the newest generations of off shore windmills are producing KVW considerably cheaper than just a few years ago. The entire globes energy (electricity and hydrogen incl. if all cars ran hydrogen) need could easily be covered by off shore windmills. It REALLY makes no sense we dont, once and for all, take the principle decision to do just that inside a very short year-span. It would create a global supergrowth periode and after doing that or even at same time we could build a global continent connecting vaccum based hyperloop, let a global supergrid follow same route and a space elevator. These 4 decisions would have the ability to improve ALL our lifes, restore conditions for us and biodiversity and significantly improve our lifes without destroying our habitat. A global mega decision on raising off shore windmills would also be a lifesaver for our oceans. I have privately dived at Danish off shore windmill foundations and they function as artificial reefs and create living space for first mussles and seaweed and that leads to living conditions for smaller fish, the bottom (foundation) for the marine foodchain. It is estimated that over 20% of global marine life are directly linked to global coral reefs and these are under pressure because of global warmer water and experience increasing bleaching events that eventually can kill the reefs off. Maybe industrial seaweed production, that Denmark experiment with, can reduce the natural gas production in cows and thus again have another positive spin off that create jobs and allow us to continue to eat meat with less negative impact. In my book it is bad business for us all if we dont speed these things up NOW where we DO have the tech and the solutions. We know that the planets regulating weather/water systems dont respond to negative or positive changes overnight, so the current decline will take time to reverse, we ought to have made radical changes 20 years ago. NO time to waste! Enough talk, lets ACT! IF ANY politician in your nation claims it would cost your nation "to much" to act as science proves we HAVE TO, then show them this! The fossile fuel industry STILL in 2021, are the globally most subsidized sector, not even close to be a free market. At least dont use taxpayer money to destroy our planet! WHY SPEND ever increasing taxpayer money to repair ever increasing symptom of climate change, floods, draughts, climate refugees, consequences of deforestation, the decrease in living landmasses due to raising waters, desertification etc. etc. I wanna INVEST in transforming our energy production and usage to a sustainable one. WE WILL have to do the INVESTMENTS to transform under all circumstances but makes no sense to wait and just increase the bill by having to pay for the ever increasing costs by waiting. Acting NOW are the best INVESTMENT we can make for ourselves. It will be a huge economic growth and jobcreator on top. It is NOT a matter of living on a stone but a matter of TRANSFORMING how we do things. LOOK at Denmark! It IS being done with succes here! Google. "Denmark and energy islands"
I agree with you 100%, but as a evolutionary biologist i fear we are not unfortunately genetically predisposed to think about the ecosystem or to protect environment . Its all about reproduction and food. That is it.
If that were the case, then why do we have human rights or laws? If it were all about reproduction and food, then why do people choose to not have children, or volunteer to help others? Your theory is far too simplistic.
And you use that good info, please, to tell that evolutionary bit AND tell us all it will be necessary, a thousand times. Because then people believe. Thank you!
Let's see... 1) it's too late to rectify the situation. 2) we have 4-6 years to rectify the situation. (?) 3) therefore we must all rebel and go to prison to rectify the situation. I am not at all opposed to people rebelling in an attempt to rectify the situation to whatever extent possible and to hold the perpetrators responsible, but just saying.
Time is up. Change needed to take place decades ago. Accept the hot world and plan how to survive in it while you still have a functional civilization.
@@thepepperlanders not quite, there is actually a difference between a bad and a horrendous situation. The climate catastrophe is non-linear. And day counts and makes a difference. We will decarbonize either by having some control or by having lost all control. Our choice to step up or to give up before having even tried...
Can I just personally try to communicate that there ARE nations that DO ACT way beyond the Paris climate agreement and DO better than average while doing it. Dont listen to what your politicians SAY, but what they DO, when it comes to this. Whatever nation you are in. Please hold your own nations climate efforts up against what has been decided in Denmark. Denmark ARE leading the way for Western industrialized nations! Let me inform/remind you. The basic promise, all in the Paris climate agreement have signed onto are: 50% reduction of greenhouse gasses (like CO2 and Methane) from 1990 level, before 2050. In Denmark we KNOW that this demand fulfilled are NOT ENOUGH to halt the climate changes already set in motion. It makes me proud to say that Denmark, in 2019, approved in parlament with 167 for, out of 179, to voluntarily, nationwide, reduce CO2 emissions with 70% from 1990 level before 2030! That is just 9 years from now! Inside the same decision the Danish parlament also have agreed that Denmark are NOT allowing themselves to buy CO2 quotas to deliver the result "on paper". It has to be a genuine and real reduction. So its a massive improvement and what the climate and the global population needs that ALL countries do. THAT is how you TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! On top of that, Denmark have oil in its underground and they have, approved in parlament a few months ago. Valid immediately, to also decide to stop their planned oilsector explorations and have decided that any oil in their underground are going to be stored CO2 that never will be released. They keep their current oil platforms (under the Paris agreement) but have decided to decommission platforms either, as they get to old or the wells they have under them run dry. Denmarks change away from fossile fuels have been focused on land and off shore windmills. Off shore windmill parks are large scale where they are going. The overall vision are to be more than 100% selfsustained with sustainable green energy and usage and eventually export both sustainable electricity and hydrogen. Denmark would be able to ramp up our plans considerably reg. sustainable electricity and hydrogen production pretty fast if other nations or companies would commit to same longterm deals as they do on oil. Our decades long experience raising off shore windmill parks means we have the knowledgeable workforce to respond relatively fast and the newest generations of off shore windmills are producing KVW considerably cheaper than just a few years ago. The entire globes energy (electricity and hydrogen incl. if all cars ran hydrogen) need could easily be covered by off shore windmills. It REALLY makes no sense we dont, once and for all, take the principle decision to do just that inside a very short year-span. It would create a global supergrowth periode and after doing that or even at same time we could build a global continent connecting vaccum based hyperloop, let a global supergrid follow same route and a space elevator. These 4 decisions would have the ability to improve ALL our lifes, restore conditions for us and biodiversity and significantly improve our lifes without destroying our habitat. A global mega decision on raising off shore windmills would also be a lifesaver for our oceans. I have privately dived at Danish off shore windmill foundations and they function as artificial reefs and create living space for first mussles and seaweed and that leads to living conditions for smaller fish, the bottom (foundation) for the marine foodchain. It is estimated that over 20% of global marine life are directly linked to global coral reefs and these are under pressure because of global warmer water and experience increasing bleaching events that eventually can kill the reefs off. Maybe industrial seaweed production, that Denmark experiment with, can reduce the natural gas production in cows and thus again have another positive spin off that create jobs and allow us to continue to eat meat with less negative impact. In my book it is bad business for us all if we dont speed these things up NOW where we DO have the tech and the solutions. We know that the planets regulating weather/water systems dont respond to negative or positive changes overnight, so the current decline will take time to reverse, we ought to have made radical changes 20 years ago. NO time to waste! Enough talk, lets ACT! IF ANY politician in your nation claims it would cost your nation "to much" to act as science proves we HAVE TO, then show them this! The fossile fuel industry STILL in 2021, are the globally most subsidized sector, not even close to be a free market. At least dont use taxpayer money to destroy our planet! WHY SPEND ever increasing taxpayer money to repair ever increasing symptom of climate change, floods, draughts, climate refugees, consequences of deforestation, the decrease in living landmasses due to raising waters, desertification etc. etc. I wanna INVEST in transforming our energy production and usage to a sustainable one. WE WILL have to do the INVESTMENTS to transform under all circumstances but makes no sense to wait and just increase the bill by having to pay for the ever increasing costs by waiting. Acting NOW are the best INVESTMENT we can make for ourselves. It will be a huge economic growth and jobcreator on top. It is NOT a matter of living on a stone but a matter of TRANSFORMING how we do things. LOOK at Denmark! It IS being done with succes here! Google. "Denmark and energy islands"
@@thepepperlanders A few decades ago they were trying to con us that we were going to have an ice age, now the con is about warming. We HAD a functioning civilization which is going through a controlled demolition (with covid and climate falsehoods). When it has been sufficiently dismantled a new world order will emerge, which was planned all along. Carbon credit slavery, global technocracy, and total control over our lives will be our future if we go along with all this BS.
We are the choir and we would like to hear more significant material instead of a rambling monologue at us. We need to hear very specific plans, and we don't care that so many people don't care. OK, I am not going to listen to this anymore because he has no dynamic things to do. OK I'll listen to the end. This smacks of the hopium drug that some want to ignore at this point. If we do what needs to be done, then tell us what first, and skip the blather: we already know the stats, we already have heard the history, we already know the story...get TO THE F'N POINT.
Right. The civil rights and women's right to vote movements had concrete goals. Where's the specificity here? We can't just demand "less carbon emissions" even though that is what we want. We use carbon for our survival in extremely complex ways. We need concrete alternatives to demand - not vague ideals. This talk lays out a great methodology for demanding change, but it sorely lacks any specific goals in terms of HOW we can get off fossil fuel dependency. Probably the MOST effective thing would be for everyone to refuse to consume the products of animal agriculture. But the situation is not one in which governments have alternatives that can be changed as easily as racist or misogynist ideologies. Our climate crisis is very difficult to resolve even if the governments are willing to try. We need to demand specific solutions.
Mate, haven't you realized by now, that all these people can do is ramble. AGW is not a real problem, therefore there is no real solution, so competing egos just ramble on that they have the best solution. Meanwhile the globalists that invented and propagated the AGW falsehood implement their solutions to gain more control over our lives and deepen our enslavement.
According to the Cambridge report going Vegan or Vegetarian would reduce by 50% individual CO2 footprint overnight. Taking personal responsibility in this way is more important than protesting and focussing on the behaviours of others, like they say the personal is the political.
What prison reading would you recommend? Last time I went to prison I took a 1000+ page university physics text book. Made quick work of it. Anything more relevant come to mind?
Mandela used Marianne Williamson's work on Idea that "It isn't your darkness you are most afraid of. It's your light! And that playing small doesn't serve the world." So step into the brilliance of who you are and do your work. Paraphrasing. Mandela used these words, because he knew for him too, this is human truth! Thank you, dear Roger. Christ was reviled too, I hear.
Great video, but really it was the last 5 minutes that made me really listen hard... I've been worrying about societal collapse since about 2007, and it terrifies me how quickly it's coming, and people still deny that there's even a problem. I've always been involved in more the positive solutions, but this really has me thinking about civil disobediance. THanks.
He is recommending that his listeners do things that will get them imprisoned, beaten up and maybe killed. How long can he keep saying this before he puts his money where his mouth is?
I am looking at the truckers' disruption in Ottawa as it spreads and thinking that they are using these tactics! Are they going to win?! It seems they are being used by people like Bannon who want a total breakdown of the existing social order; but to what point?! Are we looking at a Mad Max future?!
Yes I agree these need to be much reduced. The first point- we are being lied to- doesn’t appear till 8 minutes in. Not wanting to detract from this video or other very informative and inspirational material but what XR need - what we all need- is another Martin Luther King, a Nelson Mandela of a Mahatma Ghandi and they take longer to “grow” than 6 months. Theory is all very well but what is needed is charismatic leadership
Partially interesting. Could do with a) describing what the enraged should be wanting Scientifically and in terms of Engineering and in terms of Economic change i.e. end of Capitalism [as we know it] or otherwise and b) describing the actions of the enraged within a language of Sociology alone [it is a valid area - but it is not the only 1] -> i.e. some sense of plan.
The challenge as I see it is how to redesign the economy works so that the market is free only at the point of sale, not at the point of production (so no free stock of fish, forests or minerals) or at the point of consumption (so no free disposal of carbon, plastic or any other pollution). Since the Bank of England’s creation 300 years ago ‘the market’ has been busy consuming natural capital under the assumption that it was inexhaustible. Logically ridiculous but practicable as any future problem would be solved by the inflicted generations many years down the line. As population and consumption levels have grown the practicality of that assumption has shrivelled rapidly; the inflicted generations are now walking on the Earth. Time is, indeed, short. But unless we start to talk about how we make money (rather than how we distribute it), we won't make any progress toward avoiding breakdown.
Such a vitally important message yet only 70,000 subscribers... The human condition, as history has told us time and time again, means that no action will be taken until it's either already irreparably broken or its already too late to change anything without mass causalities - none more so than now. People in general are not impacted enough to be concerned. Too many people shouting out the tale of "Peter and the Wolf". This is not how I feel, BTW. However, while people feel "I'm Alright Jack", little in the way of active change will happen. Believing otherwise fails to understand the selfishness of people in general. Appealing to what little conscience people have when the going is still OK for them in general, will be a very tough challenge indeed - maybe even futile. Anyway, I hope you succeed in waking people up to themselves.
I don't think that it's necessarily selfishness that prevents ordinary people from acting. I think that the system is just not set up for individuals to make a difference, it's a self supporting, self reinforcing trap. Quite deliberately engineered over hundreds of years by the people who profit the most from our collective apathy! Hundreds of years of social conditioning have made us pathetically passive and careless!!
Roger is an excellent communicator and is able to anticipate reactions with humour and humility. Of course this is aimed at the few who might become emotionally engaged enough to do something now. There are differences with the Freedom Riders - the federal legislation was already in place - but global warming mitigation may be beyond what current political activism can achieve. So thanks Roger for the challenge.
@-GinΠΓ Τάο I am sorry, but your two options are not cutting it. They are both practically impossible. 99% of all mined Titanium is in the form of white paint. We are never going to recycle this back. Are we going to sandpaper all walls? Unlikely. The second option you mentioned is just nuts. You cannot contain nature in an "earth ship". Just the cycles of elements on the planet can not be contained. I dont see any of those options as viable. But I am pretty sure I can predict to you what WILL happen. Its always been plan A for many governments of the world. Doing business as usual until the very last moment when basically everybody realizes whats going on and starts demanding change. At that point some government will pop up and quickly offer a solution in the form of geoengineering. The others will either follow along or go to war over it. And it will work. Climate change will be averted. At least temporarily. Humanity will see this as an excuse to do the same shit it was always doing. The entropy of the system will continue to rise until one fatal mistake brings everything to a quick standstill. Maxwell´s demon will be born and we will all go to hell :) Thats how I see it playing out.
@-GinΠΓ Τάο It seams you are misunderstanding me. I know what an earth ship is. And it is an attempt to contain nature. If you dont see this, you are a fool. ;)
28:25 - 2019 April XR event 32:17 - political will 34:21 - consciousness raising insufficient 35:50 - disruption conflicts with entrenched power 37:30- you dont highlight something if you want to change it. 44:23 sign up to engage in civil disobedience to the point of arrest or prison 46:40 - the greater the repression. The bigger the release. 1:43:03 - Make a demand that is winnable 1:46:40 - Ballpark number of arrests 1:47:40 - 5 people to jackpot 1:49:10 - Be prepared for sacrifice.
Just a few weeks back XR claimed to be distancing themselfs from Roger hallum and claimed he no longer spoke for them. Now he is featuring on the RUclips channel? What's the story now?
Let's be OPTIMISTIC and discard the problems haha. Problems are GREAT because if you know what they are, THEN you can work on the SOLUTIONS! :) A normal video on YT at last, without the boasting, is refreshing.
One thing I am sceptical of is HOW exactly will getting arrested lead to legislation that will help the climate crisis? The policing bill makes it clear that the govt has no issue with arresting more people
With friends I say "you know we might just have to start taking a few less flights stop eating meat". "oh I could never give up my meat" etc. I guess you have to almost make things as antisocial as smoking to change behaviour.
I'm on my knees to the Lord almighty, Jesus and the Holy Ghost, Buddha, Muhammad and all the little river gods, because our souls are the only things we can hope to save now.
Watch as I wave my magic wand, change the winds, end the droughts, cool the oceans, make temperatures and weather milder globally and crush atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, without any change in global carbon dioxide emissions. It's already happening. Differential solar heating of surfaces drives atmospheric circulation, which drives the weather. Warmer air holds more moisture than cooler air. If increasing atmospheric greenhouse gases increase temperatures, we should see more regular precipitation, but instead we're told that the greenhouse effect somehow leads to drought, irregular precipitation and severe weather. Discussions about atmospheric carbon dioxide usually omit that carbon dioxide is readily soluble in water. Discussions about the carbon cycle mainly focus on the photosynthesis pathway but ignore the precipitation pathway. A good rainstorm will scrub and sequester more atmospheric carbon dioxide than any machine could at a billion times the cost of nothing. Yes, I know that a billion times zero is zero, but it was rhetorical. If warmer temperatures lead to more atmospheric moisture and atmospheric circulation drives the rain, more regular rain should sequester more atmospheric carbon dioxide, and atmospheric levels shouldn't rise enough to increase temperatures. Maybe something else is breaking the cycle. When I was in grade school back in the seventies, the teacher who taught Earth Science was very thorough about how the water cycle works and how weather is driven. She explained that drought is the result of obstruction to air circulation. Something blocks the air from moving, and when air doesn't move, heat doesn't move. If warm air rises because it is less dense than cooler air, what prevents warm air from rising? Convection requires atmospheric instability, which entails an environmental lapse rate that is greater than the adiabatic lapse rate. When the lapse rate is less than the adiabatic lapse rate, warm air will only rise so far until something increases the lapse rate. When the lapse rate is inverted (a temperature inversion), convection is blocked, surfaces heat up and everything dries up. Conditions resulting from drought (erosion, thinned vegetation) open up more room for air to flow and eventually eliminate the drought. Ten years ago, I discovered a man-made temperature inversion in the Millet Swale watershed, at 6000 feet elevation, southeast of Snowflake, Arizona. The temperature inversion put excess pressure on the watershed, which put excess pressure on connected watersheds. Millet Swale connects to the Silver Creek watershed, which connects to Little Colorado River... Colorado River... Lake Mead... Las Vegas... Phoenix... and the rest of the Colorado River Basin... Pacific Ocean... the Mississippi River watershed... Gulf of Mexico... Atlantic Ocean... Need I go on? Hello, Southwest Drought! Hello, Climate Change! The inversion was deliberately engineered and maintained, to alter the local microclimate. I have worked on eliminating the inversion for the past decade. Meteorological records of the past decade reflect both progress and setbacks, where the setbacks resulted from continuous subversive activity to re-establish and maintain the inversion. Refer to the National Temperature and Precipitation Maps for CONUS. Something changed between between winter 2021-2022 and winter 2022-2023. CONUS went from one of the driest winters in the 128-year period of record to one of the wettest. Maybe you've heard about the near-record snowpack in the Sierra Nevada or the unprecedented blizzard in Southern California. Enough of the obstructions were removed to restore atmospheric circulation. Conditions that resulted from drought (erosion and thinned vegetation) enhanced the winter weather when the blockage was removed. The Rebels are winning.
Sorry about this, but all this video has done for me is to convince me that humanity has a death wish, but I do hope he’s right about a massive change in attitude.
There is something I don't totally understand : what you're describing is basically what the co-founders of XR have done between 2018 and April 2019, right ? You in fact have already done what you are advocating, unless there is something I'm missing. What would you have done differently ? Focus on something smaller than XR's 3 demands ? But as you argue, you did "win" and it made international news...
You need some basic information. If the world warms by 2 degrees it's not like today being 2 degrees warmer than yesterday. It's that the *peaks* will be two degrees warmer *on average*. This means the peaks will be amplified in certain places by much more, like the 50 degree celsius temperature in western Canada recently. That's hot enough to kill. You will also get 'wet bulb' events where the moisture held in the air is high enough to prevent sweating from cooling you down, so that's lethal in hot weather. You also get more extreme weather events such as hurricanes, floods and droughts as we are already seeing. These events kill hundreds at a time, sometimes thousands. As the world continues to warm, these events will continue to grow in frequency and severity.
People have had much more than 6 months already - and now that XR has been around for awhile, it's also on XR's watch. Maybe there needs to be somethings that are more effective in parallel?
Dude. It's too late. Over 65 tipping points have been crossed. We got biblical rains happening now. There is 14% more water in the air. The real killer is the Arctic ice. Right now there is still a tiny buffer. So the heated sea hits the buffer, which melts at 32f. When the ice buffer is gone (by 2025 Max) the sea heats the air to 124f. That's a cooker. Take about 2-3 years to start cooking. No matter what he says, you going in the cooker. No matter how he keeps sleeping the data. You can't stop it. But don't worry. There will be more HOPE VIDEOS out soon.
We can’t look at history in hope that people will demand change like they have in the past because the climate crisis has very little consequences on people at the time. Unlike all other issues in history where the consequences where on the people and then they demand change to ameliorate their situation. This has very little consequences for people at this point and by the time they do get consequences the time to do anything about it will be long gone. The climate crisis is more like the NAZI rise in Germany in the 1930’s. The world watched the rise until the bombs started to fall on them before the public was completely mobilized. Unlike the NAZI plague we still had a chance of winning at that point but the climate crisis doesn’t have this opportunity. Even at this point if we shut down the economy and really got serious we would still face a much worse society in the coming years. I wish you guys good luck and all the hope in the world but it is a problem which the elites don’t believe they can solve and are simply trying to position themselves to survive the coming disaster. Good luck to all.
CO2 at 0.04% is a 2,500th part of the atmosphere. That means to warm the climate by just 1"C carbon dioxide molecules must capture 2,500"C of heat energy. That is impossible. It also breaks the fundamental laws of thermodynamics. Methane at 0.00017% is a 600,000th of the atmosphere so it's even more impossible. However, the climate is changing. This is because of deliberate geoengineering programmes, in particular ozone thinning away from the poles. Though largely unreported ozone thinning effect is directly observable, in clear skies producing an unnaturally bright sun. Under these conditions the pain felt when looking at the sun is not only from the increase in visible light but the much larger increase in infrared. (Look up at the sky and you will see a range of geoengineering operations in progress, these include chemtrail induced cloud or hazing, ripple patterns caused by HAARP installations, bizarre and unnatural cloud formations). Climate change is a programme to force change in accordance with the implementation of Agenda 21 /2030. Current events demonstrate this transition is well underway and will involve massive population cull through injected nanotech (re transhumanist programme). Agenda 21 also sees the permanent loss of all property rights with the introduction of universal basic income (ref NESARA/GESARA) and has/is being promoted by The World Economic Forum. 'You will own nothing and you will be happy' WEF In a depopulated world the surviving brainwashed and controlled population will be confined to mega cities. Carbon limits will be used to restrict consumption and liberty. Meanwhile the re-greened wilderness will be the exclusive playground of the ultra rich elite posing as conservationists. The CO2 hoax amounts to the theft of the world and the enslavement of humanity by a parasitic few. Welcome to the future! _________ I have included a debunking of 'accumulated heat' as it is so often used to explain how trace elements, so called 'greenhouse gasses', can warm the planet. Accumulated heat whilst sounding a reasonable explanation of how heat can build up is rather nothing more than gobbledygook. In fact it shows those using such arguments do not even understand what heat is. When we measure temperature we are measuring the heat energy a thing is losing. In short heat is a measurement of flow, the transfer of heat energy and this will always be in the direction towards the colder. For this reason a thing can never 'accumulate heat' in the way those advocating CO2 climate change describe. The temperature of a body is the measure of heat output, it can never be greater than the measure of heat input. Output = input. When a thing is warmed it is heated to an equivalent of the heat input. If this input is not maintained it will cool. Those that propose that heat can build up to be hotter than the total measure of heat input at a given time either do not understand what heat is or are being deliberately misleading. To illustrate, an object being heated by a flame can never become hotter than that flame, it's temperature cannot rise inexorably to the temperature of the sun for instance. Heat cannot be accumulated. When we think about it common sense tells us this must be the case. NASA and even Nobel Prize winning physicists have expounded 'accumulated heat' as the explanation how CO2 is able to warm the atmosphere. They claim that over hundreds of years CO2 has captured heat energy and this heat has 'accumulated' to produce a serious warming effect. As I have just explained, this is totally impossible and fundamentally violates all the laws of thermodynamics. That respected scientists should support such uneducated, unthinking nonsense is disturbing and only reflects that in terms of being able to think clearly about a subject they have no facility or inclination. These are the Dark Ages of science. Belief has outweighed logic or any critical thought. It tells us that we should not unquestioningly accept anything we are told, that experts can be fools. (NB: be aware of attempts to discard thermodynamics by talking about biology. Eg. 'It only takes a drop of arsenic to kill a person.' This would be somewhat desperate, muddled thinking. Clearly biological processes based on the reaction of a cell are not the same as the laws of physics/thermodynamics).
I'll make another comment and see if it gets removed. I made one on a more recent ER UK and it was removed. This ER UK talk is from a year earlier. Several tipping points have started now and this is April of 2023. Emissions are rising even more rapidly now and war has increased. Just how can anything happen to get a handle on the temperature when everything continues to get worse? And tipping points have started? And coal plants are being built and drilling for oil is on the rise? In my very knowledgeable opinion the human race and all life has entered the 6th Extinction. I'd like to hear how anyone can refute that !
Agree with much you have explained Roger. Back in the day I and many others recognised the issues that as advocates of 'The Zeitgeist Movement' understood to be a fundamental corruption of the world and questioned 'here's Utopia' as an answer simply to campaign for. I get that Peter Joseph never meant this but how many didn't to leave as let down and frustrated? If XR is to campaign for a sustainable future, I have and I do, we surely must have a vision that provides for a better world because we are sustainable and can do more with more energy to 'shake manifestos at' along with a world largely stuck in the Bronze Age (on purpose to maintain power) it must provide attainable vision. I would suggest.
@@victorschwanberg Any action taken is just a side show. A form of propaganda to falsely give the impression and offer hopeful expectations for the folks under 25 that they have a chance of survival. It’s designed to keep them from running into the streets and causing social unrest. Politicians will pump $Trillions over the next decade to make it look like they are sincere but in the back of their minds they know it’s hopeless. They knew it was hopeless 50 years ago. That’s why it was more important to keep a steady economic pace with hopes nobody would notice. They let the oil, manufacturing, farming and ranching industry fight the facts with propaganda without any consequences. We passed the point of no return decades ago
There is no turning back blue ocean event maybe 2022 I get it we can't say it's the end we need hope but I moved on to the next stage I'm selling everything and preparing for earth's demise
Civil disobedience may work to change a concept of thought such as racism. What is called for with climate is a Marshall Plan/Manhattan Project to "manufacture" a comprehensive global strategy for a just, fair, and durable solution. We know the problem. We must expend global resources to Geoengineer a solution. Civil resistance merely sheds light on a problem which enough in power already know exists. Time left must focus on a last ditch effort at solving the problem. Mr. Hallam is unfortunately living in the rear view mirror of what constitutes rational thinking for a long lasting durable strategy for longterm solution to rescue humanity from climate and civilization collapse.
If you were able to get everyone to do what you wanted, how long, realistically, would it take to impliment everything you wanted to, or is needed to, in order to get to your goal. this is a worldwide scope and as detailed answer as possible would be great
Recent GlobalABC status reports for the building and construction industry have pointed to there being a current global cumulative building floor area of circa 250 billion m2 and that this number is forecast at current population growth estimates to rise to circa 415 billion m2 by 2050.3,5 This is an average annual growth of over 5 billion m2/year.
Have you thought about taking a leaf from the Suffragettes book and defacing the currency. A campaign of stamping "XR" on the Queens head on coins would help to raise consciousness.
If the ball falling down the hill analogy had been presented to our pollies two decades ago maybe they would have been able to grasp it. Unfortunately I think 2 degrees of warming is already baked into our future, which means extreme humanity disrupting natural disasters even if we start tomorrow! We needed to have started at least 10 or probably 20 years ago for time needed to do things on a scale to make meaningful change like mega solar farms in most of the worlds deserts and ubiquitous electric transport, that kind of change is surely more like a decade in the making?
I listened from start to finish, even when I will not show up in your statistics as one who did because I downloaded the presentation. Now I'm an armchair thinker about this, making this song (ruclips.net/video/MWO2eA7s5mE/видео.html) is closest as I came to active protest, but as I listened I noticed two flaws that may be worth discussing. The idea that there is great concern in the population is correct, but not in the way the speaker assumes. The concern is about how much of the social surplus can be taken by the individuals (will I be able to buy a BMW, will I be able to fly to my holiday destination, will I have a job, etc.). I'm not impressed at all by actual concern about the environment, depletion, etc. in the target population for other reasons than plain selfish ones. Perhaps even more important: what exactly will be the end goal of the civil unrest? I mean, in the case of voting rights of women or ending slavery it is clear what goal is to be accomplished. What goal does this civil uprising have? What future model of society can be presented?
Hi ER - a short cut would be sabotaging power lines to major industrial sites - difficult to secure & lead to large reductions in emissions - also end the rather ridiculous enterprise of trying to have renewables supply polluting heavy industry
…yeah but be sure to keep the internet running so you can still broadcast your crap until you need a new computer that will not be available since you cut the power to the factories. Brain dead twat.
@@zeroxcliche The internet does need an aluminium smelter unless you think that server frames are made of sustainably grown timber. You would realise that if you had an IQ one point higher than it takes to grunt.
@@XPLAlN there is enough aluminium floating around if we stop using coke cans & recycle fields of abandoned planes - we need a big time rationalisation of resource use & a look at redundancy in products - also dip shit those materials are optional we need an overhaul in material design - externalities from most processes need to radically evolve from their 20th century roots & its already happening - what is your IQ btw
@@zeroxclichewell, I am all for recycling. There isn’t enough though. There isn’t enough because the billions of people in the developing world also want to have the things we make that use aluminium. Even if it’s an electric bicycle. But it is more likely to be a car. Or, alternatively, they can go without so that the aluminium you currently use can be recycled for your own use in perpetuity because you don’t care about them.
I'm trying to imagine British climate activists trying to create change during COP27 in Egypt's Sharm El Sheikh city. It's far away. The political and cultural climate are completely different. The countries where people pay attention will be different.
Given that there appears to be about a decade lag between the emission of GHGs and the manifestation of the conditions produced by the new atmospheric chemistry, those three or four years are more than eaten up. The next six months is already hard wired and unchangeable. The emission of methane and CO2 from the Arctic are now self-ampliftying. We are not able to do anything now which will change things for the better in any meaningful way. For years now, all the "plans" for mitigating the heating to the extent that we could see the climate stabilize under 2 degrees C. have depended on carbon capture......a technology that is not extant and the construction of a system at the scale needed, would emit enormous amounts of GHGs. It would have to first soak up the GHGs that were emitted to build it. Then it will have to take up the GHGs that were emitted during the build out of the system. Then it can get on with sequestering the GHGs that were emitted during the industrial era. Inconvenient TRUTH..... NO plan for ensuring survival of surface dwelling organisms will work without seeing a dramatic reduction of human population, especially in the first world.
Quote: "Peter Siegmund from Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI) is definitely not buying these [winter like] predictions as he explains that Dutch weather can only be predicted for the short term, two weeks in advance at most. Oh, we hear ye! 👀
Can I just personally try to communicate that there ARE nations that DO ACT way beyond the Paris climate agreement and DO better than average while doing it. Dont listen to what your politicians SAY, but what they DO, when it comes to this. Whatever nation you are in. Please hold your own nations climate efforts up against what has been decided in Denmark. Denmark ARE leading the way for Western industrialized nations! Let me inform/remind you. The basic promise, all in the Paris climate agreement have signed onto are: 50% reduction of greenhouse gasses (like CO2 and Methane) from 1990 level, before 2050. In Denmark we KNOW that this demand fulfilled are NOT ENOUGH to halt the climate changes already set in motion. It makes me proud to say that Denmark, in 2019, approved in parlament with 167 for, out of 179, to voluntarily, nationwide, reduce CO2 emissions with 70% from 1990 level before 2030! That is just 9 years from now! Inside the same decision the Danish parlament also have agreed that Denmark are NOT allowing themselves to buy CO2 quotas to deliver the result "on paper". It has to be a genuine and real reduction. So its a massive improvement and what the climate and the global population needs that ALL countries do. THAT is how you TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! On top of that, Denmark have oil in its underground and they have, approved in parlament a few months ago. Valid immediately, to also decide to stop their planned oilsector explorations and have decided that any oil in their underground are going to be stored CO2 that never will be released. They keep their current oil platforms (under the Paris agreement) but have decided to decommission platforms either, as they get to old or the wells they have under them run dry. Denmarks change away from fossile fuels have been focused on land and off shore windmills. Off shore windmill parks are large scale where they are going. The overall vision are to be more than 100% selfsustained with sustainable green energy and usage and eventually export both sustainable electricity and hydrogen. Denmark would be able to ramp up our plans considerably reg. sustainable electricity and hydrogen production pretty fast if other nations or companies would commit to same longterm deals as they do on oil. Our decades long experience raising off shore windmill parks means we have the knowledgeable workforce to respond relatively fast and the newest generations of off shore windmills are producing KVW considerably cheaper than just a few years ago. The entire globes energy (electricity and hydrogen incl. if all cars ran hydrogen) need could easily be covered by off shore windmills. It REALLY makes no sense we dont, once and for all, take the principle decision to do just that inside a very short year-span. It would create a global supergrowth periode and after doing that or even at same time we could build a global continent connecting vaccum based hyperloop, let a global supergrid follow same route and a space elevator. These 4 decisions would have the ability to improve ALL our lifes, restore conditions for us and biodiversity and significantly improve our lifes without destroying our habitat. A global mega decision on raising off shore windmills would also be a lifesaver for our oceans. I have privately dived at Danish off shore windmill foundations and they function as artificial reefs and create living space for first mussles and seaweed and that leads to living conditions for smaller fish, the bottom (foundation) for the marine foodchain. It is estimated that over 20% of global marine life are directly linked to global coral reefs and these are under pressure because of global warmer water and experience increasing bleaching events that eventually can kill the reefs off. Maybe industrial seaweed production, that Denmark experiment with, can reduce the natural gas production in cows and thus again have another positive spin off that create jobs and allow us to continue to eat meat with less negative impact. In my book it is bad business for us all if we dont speed these things up NOW where we DO have the tech and the solutions. We know that the planets regulating weather/water systems dont respond to negative or positive changes overnight, so the current decline will take time to reverse, we ought to have made radical changes 20 years ago. NO time to waste! Enough talk, lets ACT! IF ANY politician in your nation claims it would cost your nation "to much" to act as science proves we HAVE TO, then show them this! The fossile fuel industry STILL in 2021, are the globally most subsidized sector, not even close to be a free market. At least dont use taxpayer money to destroy our planet! WHY SPEND ever increasing taxpayer money to repair ever increasing symptom of climate change, floods, draughts, climate refugees, consequences of deforestation, the decrease in living landmasses due to raising waters, desertification etc. etc. I wanna INVEST in transforming our energy production and usage to a sustainable one. WE WILL have to do the INVESTMENTS to transform under all circumstances but makes no sense to wait and just increase the bill by having to pay for the ever increasing costs by waiting. Acting NOW are the best INVESTMENT we can make for ourselves. It will be a huge economic growth and jobcreator on top. It is NOT a matter of living on a stone but a matter of TRANSFORMING how we do things. LOOK at Denmark! It IS being done with succes here! Google. "Denmark and energy islands"
The basic problem of climate change has been known for a long time. Population growth x economic growth. We need dramatic reduction in human population and we need to embrace a much more frugal life. I hate to think about how much crap people are going to buy their loved ones (and casual acquaintances) this Christmas! I really do think we need to find a human solution to the problem rather than wait for technology to save us.
This is nonsense - Carbon emissions of richest 1 percent more than double the emissions of the poorest half of humanity. Therefore it is not population thats the problem, its the consumerism and the neoliberal system driving this. Thats what needs to change.
personally based on the current evidence at hand our faith has already been sealed. Instead of baseless hopes lets start a dialogue about how to come to the acceptance. I am not saying lets throw in the towel but the audience must be prepared for the inevitable. No historical data supports what is promoted. The reality is no one has taken any drastic actions that we could start tracking and gauging the rate of change. I do not see us being around by 2030.
1:41:32 Why does he think that people shut away in prisons have the power to "make demands"? We need to make demands in the offices of representatives.
I did. And I thought: I got to the end of this video .... I'm the best bet that the next 10,000 generations has got....omg we're fucked lol ;) But that is just my initial fear-based terrified vulnerable truly authentic response... and a little gallows-humor to help me process it. And, I'm hoping that sharing so may help others who might be feeling same.
As Hari Sheldon said “The fall of Empire, gentlemen, is a massive thing, however, and not easily fought. It is dictated by a rising bureaucracy, a receding initiative, a freezing of caste, a damming of curiosity-a hundred other factors. It has been going on, as I have said, for centuries, and it is too majestic and massive a movement to stop.”
You’ve failed again! Watching three years on you are still wrong and we’re all living good lives. The history of success looks like the world right now. It’s never been better!!!
The claim that climate change is causing the extinction of humanity may be hurting XR's credibility. I think putting all the cards on the table, as is done here, is the better way.
Zion Lights - A former Extinction Rebellion (XR) spokeswoman left the environmental group to campaign for nuclear power because she says it is the only way to deal with the climate crisis.
It's a matter of political and corporate will isn't it, but we know that's not there. The only thing standing the way of remedying societies ills is their attachments to the 7 Deadly Societial Sins; the first of which is personal Greed when it adversely affects society as a whole; the second is Lust which is much the same; the third is false Pride which one takes to one's self projecting the self importance of them being more of something than other humans in society, and so deserving of more no matter the ills that creates on society as a whole; forth comes Gluttony which those preceding are amalgamated into; fifth Envy, envy of everyone who has more; sixth is Wrath which is the hostility, often violent, that must be utilized to attain and retain those from the rest of society; lastly but the impetice to all else is Sloth, in which one dismisses themselves from any civic responsibility to the whole of society. In that is narcissism, and I find that over abundant in our politicians, corporations, and those investors that put personal wealth over the needs of the great society. Those fellow humans are near sighted, and I'll explain. So to address climate and enviroment destruction those folks need to be enlightened, but unfortunately to do that their near sighted aims must be diminished. How, well that's a matter of taking over the economy and politics that they benefit from. To do that society in unity must strike back by reducing consumption so as to ride things out, go on a national labor strike in their countries, while in doing so create a national labor political party to challenge the powers that be. We must resolve ourselves to a moment in history of self-denial, and a bit of hardship. Again it's a matter of our will to overcome. Our only other option is a continuing downward spiral into poverty, culminated with the end of us and those we love, all by the slow death of the climate chaos over the next 30, 50 years. We must takeover wealth and politics with the resources we each hold, self-determination in unity, or that's our future.
Rather than looking to technology to extend the life of modern industrial civilization we ought to be looking at its ability to buy time and to slow us down in the transition. We need to look towards our feet. Literally look down at the land under our feet. It is our life’s blood. We need to build resiliency in our homes and community. We should be thinking about adaptation, conservation, land stewardship, and feeding ourselves. We need to decouple our survival from global supply chains wherever and whenever possible.
@Pieter Jan Zijlstra yes!
the time where "slowing down the transition" was an option is just gone. We did that far too long
@@megaphonistanofficial1773 The transition is coming whether we like it or not. Just because the situation continues to get worse doesn’t mean we should give up or stop trying to slow the pace. Mitigation and adaptation are the only means of survival for the human race. I’m not so interested in preserving what we typically think of as civilization. We existed on this planet for hundreds of thousands of years without it. I’m more interested in making the transition or collapse as humane as possible. The slower the better. Unless you are in the Derrick Jensen camp of just tearing it all down ASAP. He may be right that it would be better for the planet but it would be hell on earth for the almost 8 billion humans if that happens.
There’s a mental trick a person plays inwardly when s/he invokes the imperial “we” - a coarse version of which is, “Teamwork is a bunch of people doing what I say.”
@@mikemccarthy1638 You got me! I should say that that’s what I’m trying to do. I can’t control anybody else. Just my thoughts.
So our examples of 6-month change aren't very good. The civil rights movement still hasn't succeeded and is moving backwards.
What are you talking about? The civil rights movement absolutely succeeded.
@@atticustay1 I respectfully disagree. Look at the multiple laws passed in America this year to limit voting rights. We are going backwards.
@@atticustay1 Tell that to the jerks in pick-ups with Trump flags flying yelling "ni__er" at my kids. That didn't happen in this town since it stopped publicly being a KKK outpost and became a "high class" ski resort. At least they learned to shut up for a couple decades.
Backwards ideas tend to move backwards, so an unsurprising result really.
The problem is, when I tell people how serious the situation is they think I'm crazy. Nobody believes we're this close to the point of no return.
I feel like those people on the street telling everyone about the bible and how we're all going to hell...
Thats how alot of revolutionary acrtions are treated, but don't worry keep going!
No...mankind has forgotten the Creator...GOD.!
Think about,...there is the Bible...his commentments...to follow is
easy...!!!
Think about...soon.
G O D means G O O D...guys.
Well, Mulan, if YOU actually read the IPCC reports for YOURSELF, you will realise the situation is nowhere near as bad as this guy makes out!
Try to think for yourself!
@@uterauch3433 Oh PLEASE! You crazy God-botherers have absolutely ZERO idea about anything.
Go back to worshipping trees, or rocks, or slime or whatever crap you believe in. Leave scientific matters to people who understand them!
@@robjohnston1433 It's pretty bad Rob
Structural change may appear to change in 6 months, but it requires a long period of build up. As an analogy remember the penetration of mobile phones in the UK. In 1993 almost no one had one, by 1955 almost everyone had one. However, the first mobile phone was sold in 1984. That 6 month transformation had a 10 year build up.
I was really hoping for solutions, instead we were given a talk on how to be disruptive. Sure I get the idea of critical mass that can force the governments hand... but what would their play be? What action can they take to 'stop the climate crisis'? What actions do we want them to take?
Maybe that's beyond the scope of this video but I would've loved to hear what we'd actually be aiming for with our disruption.
If they have a plan it's a good bet it doesn't involve you.
@@fredfredrickson5436 Well ignoring your smugness, I'd say a plan to 'stop the climate crisis' would involve/affect everyone.
@@DistinctiveBlend Not if you were an aggregated casualty of the final solution.
@@fredfredrickson5436 Well that's a prime example of how it would effect/involve me, which is in opposition to what you first said.
In fact, XR has a demand, it involves 3 demands. Read about it.
Regarding the low quantity of people who watched the previous video to the end: How about breaking the info down into shorter 5 min videos? The algorithm definitely seems to favor that and people generally prefer to watch, them I think
Just earlier today I started a dialogue with someone important to me in my business about how people make decisions based on emotion, and emotional communication, along with stories, are what change people's minds. She agreed. I listened to Roger until the end, while bottling my mead.
Emotions are not the best basis for making decisions, logic is. If you apply logic to any of Hallam's ramblings, you will realize what utter nonsense they are.
@@tonyr4873 What is important to you, Tony R?
@@enerjohnsavior3227 Many things, but in this context I believe that the truth is important. "Winning people over with emotional arguments" is not a way of finding the truth, it is a way of indoctrinating people into believing something that may not actually be true.
@@tonyr4873 I agree, truth is important!
@@tonyr4873 What's the logic that discredits Roger Hallam's views?
Roger at the 4th minute you mention historical events where radical change has happened in 3 to 6 months. Can you name a few please?
Doesn't take a genius to work that out. Think 1932, Ukraine.
@@squod1 It doesn't take a genious to work out what Andy was asking for and still you failed so maybe try to be more humble next time. Your answer is not only useless and arrogant, it is also wrong. What you're talking about is the holodomor, not the kind of events Roger is talking about, nor what Andy asked for. And to make it even more wrong, the holodomor was not what led to the protests that led to the dissolution of the USSR either so you're just wrong on every level.
World wars came to my mind. For instance, USA stopped making civilian cars almost immediately after Pearl Harbour and did not make any for few years.
I think suffragettes, civil rights movement and Ghandi
@@geraldineholmes4445 thanks. I could only think of events that had mostly negative consequences.
My only fear is, once the Government is overthrown, the people´s Assembly that will ensue, who can guarantee that it would be one that is going to promote the Planet salvation, or one that would simply bring more tirany? Like what happened after the French Revolution. Or I am seeing the things wrong?
Wrong or right, and it’s impossible to tell past a certain point with revolutions. We have to try something.
I don't think that the plan is to replace the government with a citizens assembly although the way XR talk about it , I'm not surprised that's what people believe . As a system of governance , it would be absurd .
The assembly is more of a tool that informs the government , it's not really that revolutionary .
XR doesn't even talk about how to improve the system as far as I know .
@@T1tusCr0w Agree
@@isupportthecurrentthing.1514 I think it doesn´t have a full plan. But it demands what the Government commited to - and it´s not executing .
I fear the current system of government even more.
This video doesn’t explain how to stop the climate crisis but how to build public will. There is no discussion of the scientific and tech knowledge necessary to change what’s going on. Still interesting.
@Sam Bourgeois yep. We are the biggest hurdle.
Thanks Roger appreciate your persistent message and fresh angles. To hear that there are likely lots of angry and despairing people awaiting the touchpaper to get galvanised into action, gave me some cause for optimism.
Yes, that point did really strongly move me. Resonates.
I didn't hear anything in this 2 hour long video about solving the climate crisis.
its about creating political will for a radical green agenda / green new deal
@@connerhughes1435 Still not hearing any solutions. The 'radical green agenda' is now mostly about the Critical Theory of Social Justice, not the environment. When the so-called 'greens' actively campaign against nuclear energy and genetic modification of crop plants, it is obvious that they are not actually interested in solving the problem. In the 1960's, a member of the radical group Students for a Democratic Society wrote 'The issue is never the issue. the issue is always the revolution'. If you watch the livestreams of the recent XR event in London, which are on their RUclips channel, you will see that sentiment alive and well today.
Can I just personally try to communicate that there ARE nations that DO ACT way beyond the Paris climate agreement and DO better than average while doing it. Dont listen to what your politicians SAY, but what they DO, when it comes to this.
Whatever nation you are in. Please hold your own nations climate efforts up against what has been decided in Denmark. Denmark ARE leading the way for Western industrialized nations!
Let me inform/remind you. The basic promise, all in the Paris climate agreement have signed onto are: 50% reduction of greenhouse gasses (like CO2 and Methane) from 1990 level, before 2050.
In Denmark we KNOW that this demand fulfilled are NOT ENOUGH to halt the climate changes already set in motion. It makes me proud to say that Denmark, in 2019, approved in parlament with 167 for, out of 179, to voluntarily, nationwide, reduce CO2 emissions with 70% from 1990 level before 2030!
That is just 9 years from now! Inside the same decision the Danish parlament also have agreed that Denmark are NOT allowing themselves to buy CO2 quotas to deliver the result "on paper". It has to be a genuine and real reduction.
So its a massive improvement and what the climate and the global population needs that ALL countries do. THAT is how you TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! On top of that, Denmark have oil in its underground and they have, approved in parlament a few months ago. Valid immediately, to also decide to stop their planned oilsector explorations and have decided that any oil in their underground are going to be stored CO2 that never will be released.
They keep their current oil platforms (under the Paris agreement) but have decided to decommission platforms either, as they get to old or the wells they have under them run dry. Denmarks change away from fossile fuels have been focused on land and off shore windmills. Off shore windmill parks are large scale where they are going. The overall vision are to be more than 100% selfsustained with sustainable green energy and usage and eventually export both sustainable electricity and hydrogen.
Denmark would be able to ramp up our plans considerably reg. sustainable electricity and hydrogen production pretty fast if other nations or companies would commit to same longterm deals as they do on oil. Our decades long experience raising off shore windmill parks means we have the knowledgeable workforce to respond relatively fast and the newest generations of off shore windmills are producing KVW considerably cheaper than just a few years ago.
The entire globes energy (electricity and hydrogen incl. if all cars ran hydrogen) need could easily be covered by off shore windmills. It REALLY makes no sense we dont, once and for all, take the principle decision to do just that inside a very short year-span. It would create a global supergrowth periode and after doing that or even at same time we could build a global continent connecting vaccum based hyperloop, let a global supergrid follow same route and a space elevator. These 4 decisions would have the ability to improve ALL our lifes, restore conditions for us and biodiversity and significantly improve our lifes without destroying our habitat.
A global mega decision on raising off shore windmills would also be a lifesaver for our oceans. I have privately dived at Danish off shore windmill foundations and they function as artificial reefs and create living space for first mussles and seaweed and that leads to living conditions for smaller fish, the bottom (foundation) for the marine foodchain.
It is estimated that over 20% of global marine life are directly linked to global coral reefs and these are under pressure because of global warmer water and experience increasing bleaching events that eventually can kill the reefs off. Maybe industrial seaweed production, that Denmark experiment with, can reduce the natural gas production in cows and thus again have another positive spin off that create jobs and allow us to continue to eat meat with less negative impact.
In my book it is bad business for us all if we dont speed these things up NOW where we DO have the tech and the solutions. We know that the planets regulating weather/water systems dont respond to negative or positive changes overnight, so the current decline will take time to reverse, we ought to have made radical changes 20 years ago. NO time to waste! Enough talk, lets ACT!
IF ANY politician in your nation claims it would cost your nation "to much" to act as science proves we HAVE TO, then show them this!
The fossile fuel industry STILL in 2021, are the globally most subsidized sector, not even close to be a free market. At least dont use taxpayer money to destroy our planet!
WHY SPEND ever increasing taxpayer money to repair ever increasing symptom of climate change, floods, draughts, climate refugees, consequences of deforestation, the decrease in living landmasses due to raising waters, desertification etc. etc. I wanna INVEST in transforming our energy production and usage to a sustainable one.
WE WILL have to do the INVESTMENTS to transform under all circumstances but makes no sense to wait and just increase the bill by having to pay for the ever increasing costs by waiting. Acting NOW are the best INVESTMENT we can make for ourselves. It will be a huge economic growth and jobcreator on top. It is NOT a matter of living on a stone but a matter of TRANSFORMING how we do things. LOOK at Denmark! It IS being done with succes here!
Google. "Denmark and energy islands"
I agree with you 100%, but as a evolutionary biologist i fear we are not unfortunately genetically predisposed to think about the ecosystem or to protect environment . Its all about reproduction and food. That is it.
If that were the case, then why do we have human rights or laws? If it were all about reproduction and food, then why do people choose to not have children, or volunteer to help others? Your theory is far too simplistic.
And you use that good info, please, to tell that evolutionary bit AND tell us all it will be necessary, a thousand times. Because then people believe. Thank you!
Let's see... 1) it's too late to rectify the situation. 2) we have 4-6 years to rectify the situation. (?) 3) therefore we must all rebel and go to prison to rectify the situation.
I am not at all opposed to people rebelling in an attempt to rectify the situation to whatever extent possible and to hold the perpetrators responsible, but just saying.
Time is up. Change needed to take place decades ago. Accept the hot world and plan how to survive in it while you still have a functional civilization.
@@thepepperlanders not quite, there is actually a difference between a bad and a horrendous situation. The climate catastrophe is non-linear. And day counts and makes a difference. We will decarbonize either by having some control or by having lost all control. Our choice to step up or to give up before having even tried...
@@enramurognirps I’m worried about those 433 nuclear reactors and their meltdown capabilities
Can I just personally try to communicate that there ARE nations that DO ACT way beyond the Paris climate agreement and DO better than average while doing it. Dont listen to what your politicians SAY, but what they DO, when it comes to this.
Whatever nation you are in. Please hold your own nations climate efforts up against what has been decided in Denmark. Denmark ARE leading the way for Western industrialized nations!
Let me inform/remind you. The basic promise, all in the Paris climate agreement have signed onto are: 50% reduction of greenhouse gasses (like CO2 and Methane) from 1990 level, before 2050.
In Denmark we KNOW that this demand fulfilled are NOT ENOUGH to halt the climate changes already set in motion. It makes me proud to say that Denmark, in 2019, approved in parlament with 167 for, out of 179, to voluntarily, nationwide, reduce CO2 emissions with 70% from 1990 level before 2030!
That is just 9 years from now! Inside the same decision the Danish parlament also have agreed that Denmark are NOT allowing themselves to buy CO2 quotas to deliver the result "on paper". It has to be a genuine and real reduction.
So its a massive improvement and what the climate and the global population needs that ALL countries do. THAT is how you TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! On top of that, Denmark have oil in its underground and they have, approved in parlament a few months ago. Valid immediately, to also decide to stop their planned oilsector explorations and have decided that any oil in their underground are going to be stored CO2 that never will be released.
They keep their current oil platforms (under the Paris agreement) but have decided to decommission platforms either, as they get to old or the wells they have under them run dry. Denmarks change away from fossile fuels have been focused on land and off shore windmills. Off shore windmill parks are large scale where they are going. The overall vision are to be more than 100% selfsustained with sustainable green energy and usage and eventually export both sustainable electricity and hydrogen.
Denmark would be able to ramp up our plans considerably reg. sustainable electricity and hydrogen production pretty fast if other nations or companies would commit to same longterm deals as they do on oil. Our decades long experience raising off shore windmill parks means we have the knowledgeable workforce to respond relatively fast and the newest generations of off shore windmills are producing KVW considerably cheaper than just a few years ago.
The entire globes energy (electricity and hydrogen incl. if all cars ran hydrogen) need could easily be covered by off shore windmills. It REALLY makes no sense we dont, once and for all, take the principle decision to do just that inside a very short year-span. It would create a global supergrowth periode and after doing that or even at same time we could build a global continent connecting vaccum based hyperloop, let a global supergrid follow same route and a space elevator. These 4 decisions would have the ability to improve ALL our lifes, restore conditions for us and biodiversity and significantly improve our lifes without destroying our habitat.
A global mega decision on raising off shore windmills would also be a lifesaver for our oceans. I have privately dived at Danish off shore windmill foundations and they function as artificial reefs and create living space for first mussles and seaweed and that leads to living conditions for smaller fish, the bottom (foundation) for the marine foodchain.
It is estimated that over 20% of global marine life are directly linked to global coral reefs and these are under pressure because of global warmer water and experience increasing bleaching events that eventually can kill the reefs off. Maybe industrial seaweed production, that Denmark experiment with, can reduce the natural gas production in cows and thus again have another positive spin off that create jobs and allow us to continue to eat meat with less negative impact.
In my book it is bad business for us all if we dont speed these things up NOW where we DO have the tech and the solutions. We know that the planets regulating weather/water systems dont respond to negative or positive changes overnight, so the current decline will take time to reverse, we ought to have made radical changes 20 years ago. NO time to waste! Enough talk, lets ACT!
IF ANY politician in your nation claims it would cost your nation "to much" to act as science proves we HAVE TO, then show them this!
The fossile fuel industry STILL in 2021, are the globally most subsidized sector, not even close to be a free market. At least dont use taxpayer money to destroy our planet!
WHY SPEND ever increasing taxpayer money to repair ever increasing symptom of climate change, floods, draughts, climate refugees, consequences of deforestation, the decrease in living landmasses due to raising waters, desertification etc. etc. I wanna INVEST in transforming our energy production and usage to a sustainable one.
WE WILL have to do the INVESTMENTS to transform under all circumstances but makes no sense to wait and just increase the bill by having to pay for the ever increasing costs by waiting. Acting NOW are the best INVESTMENT we can make for ourselves. It will be a huge economic growth and jobcreator on top. It is NOT a matter of living on a stone but a matter of TRANSFORMING how we do things. LOOK at Denmark! It IS being done with succes here!
Google. "Denmark and energy islands"
@@thepepperlanders A few decades ago they were trying to con us that we were going to have an ice age, now the con is about warming. We HAD a functioning civilization which is going through a controlled demolition (with covid and climate falsehoods). When it has been sufficiently dismantled a new world order will emerge, which was planned all along. Carbon credit slavery, global technocracy, and total control over our lives will be our future if we go along with all this BS.
We are the choir and we would like to hear more significant material instead of a rambling monologue at us. We need to hear very specific plans, and we don't care that so many people don't care. OK, I am not going to listen to this anymore because he has no dynamic things to do. OK I'll listen to the end. This smacks of the hopium drug that some want to ignore at this point. If we do what needs to be done, then tell us what first, and skip the blather: we already know the stats, we already have heard the history, we already know the story...get TO THE F'N POINT.
Right. The civil rights and women's right to vote movements had concrete goals. Where's the specificity here? We can't just demand "less carbon emissions" even though that is what we want. We use carbon for our survival in extremely complex ways. We need concrete alternatives to demand - not vague ideals. This talk lays out a great methodology for demanding change, but it sorely lacks any specific goals in terms of HOW we can get off fossil fuel dependency.
Probably the MOST effective thing would be for everyone to refuse to consume the products of animal agriculture.
But the situation is not one in which governments have alternatives that can be changed as easily as racist or misogynist ideologies. Our climate crisis is very difficult to resolve even if the governments are willing to try. We need to demand specific solutions.
ERM... THE MEDIUM IS THE MESSAGE... twat..?
Mate, haven't you realized by now, that all these people can do is ramble. AGW is not a real problem, therefore there is no real solution, so competing egos just ramble on that they have the best solution. Meanwhile the globalists that invented and propagated the AGW falsehood implement their solutions to gain more control over our lives and deepen our enslavement.
According to the Cambridge report going Vegan or Vegetarian would reduce by 50% individual CO2 footprint overnight. Taking personal responsibility in this way is more important than protesting and focussing on the behaviours of others, like they say the personal is the political.
Going Vegan or Vegetarian carries a 99% risk of turning into a tw@t
Roger shoud be doing this presentation in Chinese.
He doesn’t speak Chinese.
What prison reading would you recommend? Last time I went to prison I took a 1000+ page university physics text book. Made quick work of it. Anything more relevant come to mind?
I didn't think they'd let you read books on the nonces wing
Mandela used Marianne Williamson's work on Idea that "It isn't your darkness you are most afraid of. It's your light! And that playing small doesn't serve the world." So step into the brilliance of who you are and do your work. Paraphrasing. Mandela used these words, because he knew for him too, this is human truth!
Thank you, dear Roger.
Christ was reviled too, I hear.
Great video, but really it was the last 5 minutes that made me really listen hard... I've been worrying about societal collapse since about 2007, and it terrifies me how quickly it's coming, and people still deny that there's even a problem. I've always been involved in more the positive solutions, but this really has me thinking about civil disobediance. THanks.
He is recommending that his listeners do things that will get them imprisoned, beaten up and maybe killed. How long can he keep saying this before he puts his money where his mouth is?
He has been imprisoned a few times. Not beaten up yet but as more fascist legislation is passed in the UK parliament that may not be long.
I am looking at the truckers' disruption in Ottawa as it spreads and thinking that they are using these tactics! Are they going to win?! It seems they are being used by people like Bannon who want a total breakdown of the existing social order; but to what point?! Are we looking at a Mad Max future?!
Prof Guy MacPherson was spot for over 10years….
Yes, and look what happened to him. And still, despite all that happened, he still perseveres. 😊
Yes I agree these need to be much reduced. The first point- we are being lied to- doesn’t appear till 8 minutes in. Not wanting to detract from this video or other very informative and inspirational material but what XR need - what we all need- is another Martin Luther King, a Nelson Mandela of a Mahatma Ghandi and they take longer to “grow” than 6 months. Theory is all very well but what is needed is charismatic leadership
Let's shut down for six months. No cars, no day care, no grocery stores, no new suits, no office meetings, nothing. Reconnect?
Partially interesting. Could do with a) describing what the enraged should be wanting Scientifically and in terms of Engineering and in terms of Economic change i.e. end of Capitalism [as we know it] or otherwise and b) describing the actions of the enraged within a language of Sociology alone [it is a valid area - but it is not the only 1] -> i.e. some sense of plan.
The challenge as I see it is how to redesign the economy works so that the market is free only at the point of sale, not at the point of production (so no free stock of fish, forests or minerals) or at the point of consumption (so no free disposal of carbon, plastic or any other pollution).
Since the Bank of England’s creation 300 years ago ‘the market’ has been busy consuming natural capital under the assumption that it was inexhaustible. Logically ridiculous but practicable as any future problem would be solved by the inflicted generations many years down the line. As population and consumption levels have grown the practicality of that assumption has shrivelled rapidly; the inflicted generations are now walking on the Earth.
Time is, indeed, short. But unless we start to talk about how we make money (rather than how we distribute it), we won't make any progress toward avoiding breakdown.
Such a vitally important message yet only 70,000 subscribers...
The human condition, as history has told us time and time again, means that no action will be taken until it's either already irreparably broken or its already too late to change anything without mass causalities - none more so than now.
People in general are not impacted enough to be concerned. Too many people shouting out the tale of "Peter and the Wolf".
This is not how I feel, BTW. However, while people feel "I'm Alright Jack", little in the way of active change will happen. Believing otherwise fails to understand the selfishness of people in general. Appealing to what little conscience people have when the going is still OK for them in general, will be a very tough challenge indeed - maybe even futile.
Anyway, I hope you succeed in waking people up to themselves.
I don't think that it's necessarily selfishness that prevents ordinary people from acting. I think that the system is just not set up for individuals to make a difference, it's a self supporting, self reinforcing trap. Quite deliberately engineered over hundreds of years by the people who profit the most from our collective apathy! Hundreds of years of social conditioning have made us pathetically passive and careless!!
how about you, Mark, are you wake?
@@dayamay8221 My only response to that is that we have a vote.
you seem to have been registered with the wrong last name
@@cutitoutmatisse8815 If only I had a pound for each time...
Roger is an excellent communicator and is able to anticipate reactions with humour and humility. Of course this is aimed at the few who might become emotionally engaged enough to do something now. There are differences with the Freedom Riders - the federal legislation was already in place - but global warming mitigation may be beyond what current political activism can achieve. So thanks Roger for the challenge.
We have the green new deal here in the U.S. There's a book released by Noam Chomsky that gives us the outline for climate change legislation.
Bernie Sanders, as well as a few legislatures in Congress, are ready whenever the public feels like pressuring our government.
"... an excellent communicator..." ? Oh please! I WANT to hear his message but his mumbling and rambling make this film impossible to watch.
@-GinΠΓ Τάο I am sorry, but your two options are not cutting it. They are both practically impossible. 99% of all mined Titanium is in the form of white paint. We are never going to recycle this back. Are we going to sandpaper all walls? Unlikely.
The second option you mentioned is just nuts. You cannot contain nature in an "earth ship". Just the cycles of elements on the planet can not be contained.
I dont see any of those options as viable. But I am pretty sure I can predict to you what WILL happen. Its always been plan A for many governments of the world. Doing business as usual until the very last moment when basically everybody realizes whats going on and starts demanding change. At that point some government will pop up and quickly offer a solution in the form of geoengineering. The others will either follow along or go to war over it. And it will work. Climate change will be averted. At least temporarily. Humanity will see this as an excuse to do the same shit it was always doing. The entropy of the system will continue to rise until one fatal mistake brings everything to a quick standstill. Maxwell´s demon will be born and we will all go to hell :)
Thats how I see it playing out.
@-GinΠΓ Τάο It seams you are misunderstanding me. I know what an earth ship is. And it is an attempt to contain nature. If you dont see this, you are a fool. ;)
100% on board with the cause, but you need to present things better. This video is very slow and rambling.
28:25 - 2019 April XR event
32:17 - political will
34:21 - consciousness raising insufficient
35:50 - disruption conflicts with entrenched power
37:30- you dont highlight something if you want to change it.
44:23 sign up to engage in civil disobedience to the point of arrest or prison
46:40 - the greater the repression. The bigger the release.
1:43:03 - Make a demand that is winnable
1:46:40 - Ballpark number of arrests
1:47:40 - 5 people to jackpot
1:49:10 - Be prepared for sacrifice.
thanks, that's helpful. People can also cut and paste the transcript by going to the three dots (and switch between timecode or none)
Just a few weeks back XR claimed to be distancing themselfs from Roger hallum and claimed he no longer spoke for them. Now he is featuring on the RUclips channel? What's the story now?
His self importance
XR and Roger support each other when they need support, like good friends should.
@@dirkcampbell This is how good friends should behave: ruclips.net/video/Fg8sCtCsZPc/видео.html
The most frightening thing is that there are existing two thousand million people at all, assumably more... onthisfckplanet.
What is the "it" in, "I'm doing what ' it'takes"?
We need to do everything that can be done while accepting the fact that the super-rich must become inconvenienced.
Playing God to fix the climat, outcome in doubt.
Which climat, there are so many climats ...
9:14 exactly.....the scientists and politicians need their jobs
I like your vision. It gives hope. I prefer to think in 3-4 years instad of 2030 or 2050.
What do we do about the Christian’s who are thrilled to be actively hastening the “end times”?
Love them too as they too will suffer the Ecological Overshoot Unraveling.
How much more common than watching the whole thing is pretending to comment on the whole of this video?
Let's be OPTIMISTIC and discard the problems haha. Problems are GREAT because if you know what they are, THEN you can work on the SOLUTIONS! :) A normal video on YT at last, without the boasting, is refreshing.
We are at the fight stage now. Keep pushing through peeps.
One thing I am sceptical of is HOW exactly will getting arrested lead to legislation that will help the climate crisis? The policing bill makes it clear that the govt has no issue with arresting more people
With friends I say "you know we might just have to start taking a few less flights stop eating meat". "oh I could never give up my meat" etc. I guess you have to almost make things as antisocial as smoking to change behaviour.
The selfish part is there are perfectly good meat alternatives.
I'm on my knees to the Lord almighty, Jesus and the Holy Ghost, Buddha, Muhammad and all the little river gods, because our souls are the only things we can hope to save now.
Two hands working, do more than a million clapped together in prayer.
Together..Now !
All thanks to our creator...Allmighty God.
Bow down...and pray all days
long.
@@langleytw Sicher...Surely.?
Think ...Talk..and Reader about !!!!!!!
Watch as I wave my magic wand, change the winds, end the droughts, cool the oceans, make temperatures and weather milder globally and crush atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, without any change in global carbon dioxide emissions.
It's already happening.
Differential solar heating of surfaces drives atmospheric circulation, which drives the weather.
Warmer air holds more moisture than cooler air.
If increasing atmospheric greenhouse gases increase temperatures, we should see more regular precipitation, but instead we're told that the greenhouse effect somehow leads to drought, irregular precipitation and severe weather.
Discussions about atmospheric carbon dioxide usually omit that carbon dioxide is readily soluble in water.
Discussions about the carbon cycle mainly focus on the photosynthesis pathway but ignore the precipitation pathway.
A good rainstorm will scrub and sequester more atmospheric carbon dioxide than any machine could at a billion times the cost of nothing.
Yes, I know that a billion times zero is zero, but it was rhetorical.
If warmer temperatures lead to more atmospheric moisture and atmospheric circulation drives the rain, more regular rain should sequester more atmospheric carbon dioxide, and atmospheric levels shouldn't rise enough to increase temperatures.
Maybe something else is breaking the cycle.
When I was in grade school back in the seventies, the teacher who taught Earth Science was very thorough about how the water cycle works and how weather is driven. She explained that drought is the result of obstruction to air circulation. Something blocks the air from moving, and when air doesn't move, heat doesn't move.
If warm air rises because it is less dense than cooler air, what prevents warm air from rising?
Convection requires atmospheric instability, which entails an environmental lapse rate that is greater than the adiabatic lapse rate. When the lapse rate is less than the adiabatic lapse rate, warm air will only rise so far until something increases the lapse rate. When the lapse rate is inverted (a temperature inversion), convection is blocked, surfaces heat up and everything dries up.
Conditions resulting from drought (erosion, thinned vegetation) open up more room for air to flow and eventually eliminate the drought.
Ten years ago, I discovered a man-made temperature inversion in the Millet Swale watershed, at 6000 feet elevation, southeast of Snowflake, Arizona.
The temperature inversion put excess pressure on the watershed, which put excess pressure on connected watersheds.
Millet Swale connects to the Silver Creek watershed, which connects to Little Colorado River... Colorado River... Lake Mead... Las Vegas... Phoenix... and the rest of the Colorado River Basin... Pacific Ocean... the Mississippi River watershed... Gulf of Mexico... Atlantic Ocean...
Need I go on?
Hello, Southwest Drought! Hello, Climate Change!
The inversion was deliberately engineered and maintained, to alter the local microclimate.
I have worked on eliminating the inversion for the past decade. Meteorological records of the past decade reflect both progress and setbacks, where the setbacks resulted from continuous subversive activity to re-establish and maintain the inversion.
Refer to the National Temperature and Precipitation Maps for CONUS.
Something changed between between winter 2021-2022 and winter 2022-2023. CONUS went from one of the driest winters in the 128-year period of record to one of the wettest.
Maybe you've heard about the near-record snowpack in the Sierra Nevada or the unprecedented blizzard in Southern California.
Enough of the obstructions were removed to restore atmospheric circulation. Conditions that resulted from drought (erosion and thinned vegetation) enhanced the winter weather when the blockage was removed.
The Rebels are winning.
Sorry about this, but all this video has done for me is to convince me that humanity has a death wish, but I do hope he’s right about a massive change in attitude.
Thanks so much. Thought provoking -and hopefully action provoking!
There is something I don't totally understand : what you're describing is basically what the co-founders of XR have done between 2018 and April 2019, right ? You in fact have already done what you are advocating, unless there is something I'm missing.
What would you have done differently ? Focus on something smaller than XR's 3 demands ? But as you argue, you did "win" and it made international news...
As Saruman he should create an army of orcs -- that would be a good start.
start with don't buy rubbisch from china..........
If our world gets a bit warmer good oh bring it on GL
You need some basic information. If the world warms by 2 degrees it's not like today being 2 degrees warmer than yesterday. It's that the *peaks* will be two degrees warmer *on average*. This means the peaks will be amplified in certain places by much more, like the 50 degree celsius temperature in western Canada recently. That's hot enough to kill. You will also get 'wet bulb' events where the moisture held in the air is high enough to prevent sweating from cooling you down, so that's lethal in hot weather. You also get more extreme weather events such as hurricanes, floods and droughts as we are already seeing. These events kill hundreds at a time, sometimes thousands. As the world continues to warm, these events will continue to grow in frequency and severity.
People have had much more than 6 months already - and now that XR has been around for awhile, it's also on XR's watch. Maybe there needs to be somethings that are more effective in parallel?
Dude. It's too late. Over 65 tipping points have been crossed. We got biblical rains happening now. There is 14% more water in the air. The real killer is the Arctic ice. Right now there is still a tiny buffer. So the heated sea hits the buffer, which melts at 32f. When the ice buffer is gone (by 2025 Max) the sea heats the air to 124f. That's a cooker. Take about 2-3 years to start cooking.
No matter what he says, you going in the cooker. No matter how he keeps sleeping the data. You can't stop it. But don't worry. There will be more HOPE VIDEOS out soon.
Talking out of your elbow mate
Why would the air temperature rise to 124 F just because we lose arctic ice? We didn't have arctic ice in the Pliocene. It wasn't 124 F worldwide.
We can’t look at history in hope that people will demand change like they have in the past because the climate crisis has very little consequences on people at the time. Unlike all other issues in history where the consequences where on the people and then they demand change to ameliorate their situation. This has very little consequences for people at this point and by the time they do get consequences the time to do anything about it will be long gone.
The climate crisis is more like the NAZI rise in Germany in the 1930’s. The world watched the rise until the bombs started to fall on them before the public was completely mobilized. Unlike the NAZI plague we still had a chance of winning at that point but the climate crisis doesn’t have this opportunity. Even at this point if we shut down the economy and really got serious we would still face a much worse society in the coming years. I wish you guys good luck and all the hope in the world but it is a problem which the elites don’t believe they can solve and are simply trying to position themselves to survive the coming disaster. Good luck to all.
CO2 at 0.04% is a 2,500th part of the atmosphere. That means to warm the climate by just 1"C carbon dioxide molecules must capture 2,500"C of heat energy. That is impossible. It also breaks the fundamental laws of thermodynamics.
Methane at 0.00017% is a 600,000th of the atmosphere so it's even more impossible.
However, the climate is changing. This is because of deliberate geoengineering programmes, in particular ozone thinning away from the poles. Though largely unreported ozone thinning effect is directly observable, in clear skies producing an unnaturally bright sun. Under these conditions the pain felt when looking at the sun is not only from the increase in visible light but the much larger increase in infrared. (Look up at the sky and you will see a range of geoengineering operations in progress, these include chemtrail induced cloud or hazing, ripple patterns caused by HAARP installations, bizarre and unnatural cloud formations).
Climate change is a programme to force change in accordance with the implementation of Agenda 21 /2030. Current events demonstrate this transition is well underway and will involve massive population cull through injected nanotech (re transhumanist programme). Agenda 21 also sees the permanent loss of all property rights with the introduction of universal basic income (ref NESARA/GESARA) and has/is being promoted by The World Economic Forum.
'You will own nothing and you will be happy' WEF
In a depopulated world the surviving brainwashed and controlled population will be confined to mega cities. Carbon limits will be used to restrict consumption and liberty. Meanwhile the re-greened wilderness will be the exclusive playground of the ultra rich elite posing as conservationists.
The CO2 hoax amounts to the theft of the world and the enslavement of humanity by a parasitic few.
Welcome to the future!
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I have included a debunking of 'accumulated heat' as it is so often used to explain how trace elements, so called 'greenhouse gasses', can warm the planet.
Accumulated heat whilst sounding a reasonable explanation of how heat can build up is rather nothing more than gobbledygook. In fact it shows those using such arguments do not even understand what heat is.
When we measure temperature we are measuring the heat energy a thing is losing. In short heat is a measurement of flow, the transfer of heat energy and this will always be in the direction towards the colder. For this reason a thing can never 'accumulate heat' in the way those advocating CO2 climate change describe. The temperature of a body is the measure of heat output, it can never be greater than the measure of heat input. Output = input. When a thing is warmed it is heated to an equivalent of the heat input. If this input is not maintained it will cool. Those that propose that heat can build up to be hotter than the total measure of heat input at a given time either do not understand what heat is or are being deliberately misleading. To illustrate, an object being heated by a flame can never become hotter than that flame, it's temperature cannot rise inexorably to the temperature of the sun for instance. Heat cannot be accumulated. When we think about it common sense tells us this must be the case.
NASA and even Nobel Prize winning physicists have expounded 'accumulated heat' as the explanation how CO2 is able to warm the atmosphere. They claim that over hundreds of years CO2 has captured heat energy and this heat has 'accumulated' to produce a serious warming effect. As I have just explained, this is totally impossible and fundamentally violates all the laws of thermodynamics. That respected scientists should support such uneducated, unthinking nonsense is disturbing and only reflects that in terms of being able to think clearly about a subject they have no facility or inclination. These are the Dark Ages of science. Belief has outweighed logic or any critical thought. It tells us that we should not unquestioningly accept anything we are told, that experts can be fools.
(NB: be aware of attempts to discard thermodynamics by talking about biology.
Eg. 'It only takes a drop of arsenic to kill a person.'
This would be somewhat desperate, muddled thinking. Clearly biological processes based on the reaction of a cell are not the same as the laws of physics/thermodynamics).
I'll make another comment and see if it gets removed. I made one on a more recent ER UK and it was removed. This ER UK talk is from a year earlier. Several tipping points have started now and this is April of 2023. Emissions are rising even more rapidly now and war has increased. Just how can anything happen to get a handle on the temperature when everything continues to get worse? And tipping points have started? And coal plants are being built and drilling for oil is on the rise? In my very knowledgeable opinion the human race and all life has entered the 6th Extinction. I'd like to hear how anyone can refute that !
Funny how these poor people are being vilified for doing the right thing
The artic will be ice free by 2030, this is the point of no return.
Agree with much you have explained Roger. Back in the day I and many others recognised the issues that as advocates of 'The Zeitgeist Movement' understood to be a fundamental corruption of the world and questioned 'here's Utopia' as an answer simply to campaign for. I get that Peter Joseph never meant this but how many didn't to leave as let down and frustrated?
If XR is to campaign for a sustainable future, I have and I do, we surely must have a vision that provides for a better world because we are sustainable and can do more with more energy to 'shake manifestos at' along with a world largely stuck in the Bronze Age (on purpose to maintain power) it must provide attainable vision. I would suggest.
Total Scaremongering ..Total BS .
And the details to support your position are?
We're fucked
Shit! I watched it 'til the end.
Good job I like porridge!
Incredible! Thanks
If you're counting on action of any kind, you're delusional.
There is no other option!
Why?
@@victorschwanberg Any action taken is just a side show. A form of propaganda to falsely give the impression and offer hopeful expectations for the folks under 25 that they have a chance of survival. It’s designed to keep them from running into the streets and causing social unrest. Politicians will pump $Trillions over the next decade to make it look like they are sincere but in the back of their minds they know it’s hopeless. They knew it was hopeless 50 years ago. That’s why it was more important to keep a steady economic pace with hopes nobody would notice. They let the oil, manufacturing, farming and ranching industry fight the facts with propaganda without any consequences. We passed the point of no return decades ago
@@____________aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I don't think you quite got it. Do go into the street and cause social unrest.
@@simonhyde4739 And to what degree will it change the outcome?
There is no turning back blue ocean event maybe 2022 I get it we can't say it's the end we need hope but I moved on to the next stage I'm selling everything and preparing for earth's demise
What Gropes are neer Manchester?
-We should try to find a way to block some sunlight, to cool the planet and prevent more ice from melting.
Civil disobedience may work to change a concept of thought such as racism. What is called for with climate is a Marshall Plan/Manhattan Project to "manufacture" a comprehensive global strategy for a just, fair, and durable solution. We know the problem. We must expend global resources to Geoengineer a solution. Civil resistance merely sheds light on a problem which enough in power already know exists. Time left must focus on a last ditch effort at solving the problem. Mr. Hallam is unfortunately living in the rear view mirror of what constitutes rational thinking for a long lasting durable strategy for longterm solution to rescue humanity from climate and civilization collapse.
Pt. 4..is our weakness. Not to mention most of us are locked in to basic survival..
If you were able to get everyone to do what you wanted, how long, realistically, would it take to impliment everything you wanted to, or is needed to, in order to get to your goal. this is a worldwide scope and as detailed answer as possible would be great
people AWAKE!
We need to fight for socialism
Agree!!!🐱🐱🐱
No we don't!
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Have you thought about taking a leaf from the Suffragettes book and defacing the currency. A campaign of stamping "XR" on the Queens head on coins would help to raise consciousness.
Who uses “notes”: these days
I've seen some dumb ideas on here, but that takes the trophy.
If the ball falling down the hill analogy had been presented to our pollies two decades ago maybe they would have been able to grasp it. Unfortunately I think 2 degrees of warming is already baked into our future, which means extreme humanity disrupting natural disasters even if we start tomorrow! We needed to have started at least 10 or probably 20 years ago for time needed to do things on a scale to make meaningful change like mega solar farms in most of the worlds deserts and ubiquitous electric transport, that kind of change is surely more like a decade in the making?
I listened from start to finish, even when I will not show up in your statistics as one who did because I downloaded the presentation.
Now I'm an armchair thinker about this, making this song (ruclips.net/video/MWO2eA7s5mE/видео.html) is closest as I came to active protest, but as I listened I noticed two flaws that may be worth discussing.
The idea that there is great concern in the population is correct, but not in the way the speaker assumes. The concern is about how much of the social surplus can be taken by the individuals (will I be able to buy a BMW, will I be able to fly to my holiday destination, will I have a job, etc.). I'm not impressed at all by actual concern about the environment, depletion, etc. in the target population for other reasons than plain selfish ones.
Perhaps even more important: what exactly will be the end goal of the civil unrest? I mean, in the case of voting rights of women or ending slavery it is clear what goal is to be accomplished. What goal does this civil uprising have? What future model of society can be presented?
On the nail. Answer this question Roger and you might get the critical mass you want. #ResourceBasedEconomy
Hi ER - a short cut would be sabotaging power lines to major industrial sites - difficult to secure & lead to large reductions in emissions - also end the rather ridiculous enterprise of trying to have renewables supply polluting heavy industry
…yeah but be sure to keep the internet running so you can still broadcast your crap until you need a new computer that will not be available since you cut the power to the factories. Brain dead twat.
@@XPLAlN yes the internet doesn't need an aluminium smelter for example - there's a lot we don't need fck head
@@zeroxcliche The internet does need an aluminium smelter unless you think that server frames are made of sustainably grown timber. You would realise that if you had an IQ one point higher than it takes to grunt.
@@XPLAlN there is enough aluminium floating around if we stop using coke cans & recycle fields of abandoned planes - we need a big time rationalisation of resource use & a look at redundancy in products - also dip shit those materials are optional we need an overhaul in material design - externalities from most processes need to radically evolve from their 20th century roots & its already happening - what is your IQ btw
@@zeroxclichewell, I am all for recycling. There isn’t enough though. There isn’t enough because the billions of people in the developing world also want to have the things we make that use aluminium. Even if it’s an electric bicycle. But it is more likely to be a car. Or, alternatively, they can go without so that the aluminium you currently use can be recycled for your own use in perpetuity because you don’t care about them.
I'm trying to imagine British climate activists trying to create change during COP27 in Egypt's Sharm El Sheikh city. It's far away. The political and cultural climate are completely different. The countries where people pay attention will be different.
How to stop climate crisis in 6 months? The same as in 1 minute : No way!
Given that there appears to be about a decade lag between the emission of GHGs and the manifestation of the conditions produced by the new atmospheric chemistry, those three or four years are more than eaten up. The next six months is already hard wired and unchangeable.
The emission of methane and CO2 from the Arctic are now self-ampliftying. We are not able to do anything now which will change things for the better in any meaningful way.
For years now, all the "plans" for mitigating the heating to the extent that we could see the climate stabilize under 2 degrees C. have depended on carbon capture......a technology that is not extant and the construction of a system at the scale needed, would emit enormous amounts of GHGs. It would have to first soak up the GHGs that were emitted to build it. Then it will have to take up the GHGs that were emitted during the build out of the system. Then it can get on with sequestering the GHGs that were emitted during the industrial era.
Inconvenient TRUTH..... NO plan for ensuring survival of surface dwelling organisms will work without seeing a dramatic reduction of human population, especially in the first world.
Quote: "Peter Siegmund from Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI) is definitely not buying these [winter like] predictions as he explains that Dutch weather can only be predicted for the short term, two weeks in advance at most. Oh, we hear ye! 👀
"The whole point is to become unpopular".
I've lost faith!
Don’t lose faith,
just because you can’t see how it’s going to go doesn’t mean we are out for the count.
Can I just personally try to communicate that there ARE nations that DO ACT way beyond the Paris climate agreement and DO better than average while doing it. Dont listen to what your politicians SAY, but what they DO, when it comes to this.
Whatever nation you are in. Please hold your own nations climate efforts up against what has been decided in Denmark. Denmark ARE leading the way for Western industrialized nations!
Let me inform/remind you. The basic promise, all in the Paris climate agreement have signed onto are: 50% reduction of greenhouse gasses (like CO2 and Methane) from 1990 level, before 2050.
In Denmark we KNOW that this demand fulfilled are NOT ENOUGH to halt the climate changes already set in motion. It makes me proud to say that Denmark, in 2019, approved in parlament with 167 for, out of 179, to voluntarily, nationwide, reduce CO2 emissions with 70% from 1990 level before 2030!
That is just 9 years from now! Inside the same decision the Danish parlament also have agreed that Denmark are NOT allowing themselves to buy CO2 quotas to deliver the result "on paper". It has to be a genuine and real reduction.
So its a massive improvement and what the climate and the global population needs that ALL countries do. THAT is how you TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! On top of that, Denmark have oil in its underground and they have, approved in parlament a few months ago. Valid immediately, to also decide to stop their planned oilsector explorations and have decided that any oil in their underground are going to be stored CO2 that never will be released.
They keep their current oil platforms (under the Paris agreement) but have decided to decommission platforms either, as they get to old or the wells they have under them run dry. Denmarks change away from fossile fuels have been focused on land and off shore windmills. Off shore windmill parks are large scale where they are going. The overall vision are to be more than 100% selfsustained with sustainable green energy and usage and eventually export both sustainable electricity and hydrogen.
Denmark would be able to ramp up our plans considerably reg. sustainable electricity and hydrogen production pretty fast if other nations or companies would commit to same longterm deals as they do on oil. Our decades long experience raising off shore windmill parks means we have the knowledgeable workforce to respond relatively fast and the newest generations of off shore windmills are producing KVW considerably cheaper than just a few years ago.
The entire globes energy (electricity and hydrogen incl. if all cars ran hydrogen) need could easily be covered by off shore windmills. It REALLY makes no sense we dont, once and for all, take the principle decision to do just that inside a very short year-span. It would create a global supergrowth periode and after doing that or even at same time we could build a global continent connecting vaccum based hyperloop, let a global supergrid follow same route and a space elevator. These 4 decisions would have the ability to improve ALL our lifes, restore conditions for us and biodiversity and significantly improve our lifes without destroying our habitat.
A global mega decision on raising off shore windmills would also be a lifesaver for our oceans. I have privately dived at Danish off shore windmill foundations and they function as artificial reefs and create living space for first mussles and seaweed and that leads to living conditions for smaller fish, the bottom (foundation) for the marine foodchain.
It is estimated that over 20% of global marine life are directly linked to global coral reefs and these are under pressure because of global warmer water and experience increasing bleaching events that eventually can kill the reefs off. Maybe industrial seaweed production, that Denmark experiment with, can reduce the natural gas production in cows and thus again have another positive spin off that create jobs and allow us to continue to eat meat with less negative impact.
In my book it is bad business for us all if we dont speed these things up NOW where we DO have the tech and the solutions. We know that the planets regulating weather/water systems dont respond to negative or positive changes overnight, so the current decline will take time to reverse, we ought to have made radical changes 20 years ago. NO time to waste! Enough talk, lets ACT!
IF ANY politician in your nation claims it would cost your nation "to much" to act as science proves we HAVE TO, then show them this!
The fossile fuel industry STILL in 2021, are the globally most subsidized sector, not even close to be a free market. At least dont use taxpayer money to destroy our planet!
WHY SPEND ever increasing taxpayer money to repair ever increasing symptom of climate change, floods, draughts, climate refugees, consequences of deforestation, the decrease in living landmasses due to raising waters, desertification etc. etc. I wanna INVEST in transforming our energy production and usage to a sustainable one.
WE WILL have to do the INVESTMENTS to transform under all circumstances but makes no sense to wait and just increase the bill by having to pay for the ever increasing costs by waiting. Acting NOW are the best INVESTMENT we can make for ourselves. It will be a huge economic growth and jobcreator on top. It is NOT a matter of living on a stone but a matter of TRANSFORMING how we do things. LOOK at Denmark! It IS being done with succes here!
Google. "Denmark and energy islands"
Grow up
The basic problem of climate change has been known for a long time. Population growth x economic growth. We need dramatic reduction in human population and we need to embrace a much more frugal life. I hate to think about how much crap people are going to buy their loved ones (and casual acquaintances) this Christmas! I really do think we need to find a human solution to the problem rather than wait for technology to save us.
This is nonsense - Carbon emissions of richest 1 percent more than double the emissions of the poorest half of humanity. Therefore it is not population thats the problem, its the consumerism and the neoliberal system driving this. Thats what needs to change.
yeah, your giving this from a doubled glazed white room in London.
personally based on the current evidence at hand our faith has already been sealed. Instead of baseless hopes lets start a dialogue about how to come to the acceptance. I am not saying lets throw in the towel but the audience must be prepared for the inevitable. No historical data supports what is promoted. The reality is no one has taken any drastic actions that we could start tracking and gauging the rate of change. I do not see us being around by 2030.
Just warming up before the big freeze,get your coats and insulate ready 👍
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Ain’t this Roger guy a hypocrite
I mean he uses DIESEL engines on his Farm
So much for Stopping Extinction
pathetic
Workers should own and control the means of production.
Go live in China, you commie
How to Stop the Roger Hallam in Six Seconds?
Sorry what? Lol
Oh yeah, this video was made in 2021. Our 5 years has just dropped to 4 years. We're screwed...proper screwed.
1:41:32 Why does he think that people shut away in prisons have the power to "make demands"? We need to make demands in the offices of representatives.
Did anyone else get to the end and look to see how many views the video has had 😅
I did. And I thought: I got to the end of this video .... I'm the best bet that the next 10,000 generations has got....omg
we're fucked
lol
;) But that is just my initial fear-based terrified vulnerable truly authentic response... and a little gallows-humor to help me process it. And, I'm hoping that sharing so may help others who might be feeling same.
@@Richannplayshop exactly my reaction too. Like I’m just some shmuck and the next 10000 generations are depending on me, omg.
As Hari Sheldon said “The fall of Empire, gentlemen, is a massive thing, however, and not easily fought. It is dictated by a rising bureaucracy, a receding initiative, a freezing of caste, a damming of curiosity-a hundred other factors. It has been going on, as I have said, for centuries, and it is too majestic and massive a movement to stop.”
One must always look under da f bed before going to sleep.
Correction: Hari Seldon from Issac Asimov’s book Foundation. The emphasis now should be on trying to limit the catastrophe.
You’ve failed again! Watching three years on you are still wrong and we’re all living good lives. The history of success looks like the world right now. It’s never been better!!!
Ps. Thank you for doing this😊
The claim that climate change is causing the extinction of humanity may be hurting XR's credibility. I think putting all the cards on the table, as is done here, is the better way.
Zion Lights - A former Extinction Rebellion (XR) spokeswoman left the environmental group to campaign for nuclear power because she says it is the only way to deal with the climate crisis.
Why non violent?
Because his weak vegan followers aren't very good at violence
Colditz, if it had not been librated, would have seen a big breakout, the POWs had built an airworthy plane in a tower the nazis ignored.
It's a matter of political and corporate will isn't it, but we know that's not there. The only thing standing the way of remedying societies ills is their attachments to the 7 Deadly Societial Sins; the first of which is personal Greed when it adversely affects society as a whole; the second is Lust which is much the same; the third is false Pride which one takes to one's self projecting the self importance of them being more of something than other humans in society, and so deserving of more no matter the ills that creates on society as a whole; forth comes Gluttony which those preceding are amalgamated into; fifth Envy, envy of everyone who has more; sixth is Wrath which is the hostility, often violent, that must be utilized to attain and retain those from the rest of society; lastly but the impetice to all else is Sloth, in which one dismisses themselves from any civic responsibility to the whole of society. In that is narcissism, and I find that over abundant in our politicians, corporations, and those investors that put personal wealth over the needs of the great society. Those fellow humans are near sighted, and I'll explain.
So to address climate and enviroment destruction those folks need to be enlightened, but unfortunately to do that their near sighted aims must be diminished. How, well that's a matter of taking over the economy and politics that they benefit from. To do that society in unity must strike back by reducing consumption so as to ride things out, go on a national labor strike in their countries, while in doing so create a national labor political party to challenge the powers that be. We must resolve ourselves to a moment in history of self-denial, and a bit of hardship. Again it's a matter of our will to overcome. Our only other option is a continuing downward spiral into poverty, culminated with the end of us and those we love, all by the slow death of the climate chaos over the next 30, 50 years. We must takeover wealth and politics with the resources we each hold, self-determination in unity, or that's our future.
Fungi research will help nature and living naturally must be used