TPR 86cc Build : Part 1 : Intro & Unboxing

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024

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  • @144krise7
    @144krise7 Год назад +1

    Hi, in the end I bought the tpr 70cc due plus blue kit.
    Aluminium kits just aint worth.
    Had a stage 6 sport pro mk2 once that seized after 2 weeks (everyday use for hours). Cast iron kit only seized once after 4000 miles... the tpr due plus blue is on the same level as stage 6 sport pro mk2 so im happy

  • @ajgarren9104
    @ajgarren9104 5 лет назад +6

    You have some of the most educational videos I have ever seen.thank you

  • @johnrobinson357
    @johnrobinson357 5 лет назад +2

    That is a huge exh port. Ring flex scares me ever since i tried an airsal kit for my '78 puch. Ran fine being easy on it for 1k miles.
    As soon as i let it rev the problems started. As it got hot it got tight. Took it off back to iron and sane size ports and zero probs.
    But a lot less power, better to ride home than push it home. My scoot still under the tarp and will be till next year. Spine issues.
    Crashing dirt bikes in my teens and getting hit by cars on full size bikes at speed caught up with me in my 50's. Maybe next year.
    1970 cb 750 has been a rock this year, not a single prob at all. But only 5 or ten miles can not handle more. But still riding.
    The pasta scoot is very unhappy with me for letting it sit, but i see it like this : do it right or leave it alone. So it sits.
    Hey good luck with the case and cylinder it looks nice ! I would go wide on the ring gap looks like it's going to be a hot runner.
    A little wide, with only one it's getting pretty hot, but doing all the work. You've been around you know what your doing.
    Looks like the finish on the cylinder is nice, no casting flash or nasty spots. So that is what it looks like when you spend a few bucks.
    Maybe i should smarten up and spend a few bucks too. Instead of 3 hours cleaning up all the flash and roughness the cheapos have.
    Have a good

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      Hope you feel well enough to ride more soon.

  • @daniel21915
    @daniel21915 5 лет назад +5

    I have the same kit I have 1231 miles so far so good thanks for the vid

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад +2

      Nice. I hope I get that many miles on mine and more. What exhaust, carb, ignition are you using?

    • @daniel21915
      @daniel21915 5 лет назад +2

      90GTVert only thing I don’t have is the trp pipe I have a 80cc roost pipe because I ported the jug out of the box the carb is a 28mm tpr power jet

  • @Lifeisawheelie
    @Lifeisawheelie 5 лет назад +1

    Cant wait to see and hear it run. Exciting new endeavour

  • @MrSandRune
    @MrSandRune 5 лет назад

    Planned a naraku 90cc.Do use 60cc,and have 70 & 80cc in the closet.Egr & non-egr tops.Ordred a full-armour,for slowly learn the scooter,maybe back-wheel with the feets on the ground.But you know,its a mess with neighbours and big-brothers.

  • @leonburnetteakadeaththekid2500
    @leonburnetteakadeaththekid2500 5 лет назад

    very cool cant wait for the next video

  • @peterjohn3180
    @peterjohn3180 9 месяцев назад

    You mentioned the airsal kits piston.
    The earlier kits had a piston that was called "chocolate" by many!
    The later ones used a piston by mahle.

  • @Delpzie
    @Delpzie 5 лет назад

    86cc is good price for performance, i can assure you you will see so much bigger difference from that 103cc, all u have to do is just get the right parts with it like high end exhaust, innerotor ignition, 28+ mm carb and very good cvt, keep in mind that this is racing cylinder so u cant really drive it non stop everyday, one thing is sure if u setup all corretly u will feel so much more power :) , welcome to the real 2T scooter tuning world :D, i will be following the project with pleasure.

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад +1

      Mine is not going to be that wild. I can't afford all of the parts and more importantly... I actually want to ride it. I would like to find out the true potential of these things one day though.

    • @Delpzie
      @Delpzie 5 лет назад

      ​@@49ccscoot The problem is that it wont work properly without that stuff... i dont know how u plan to drive this everyday good luck man .... for everyday i reccomend stage6 sport pro mk2 some midrace setup.

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад +3

      @@Delpzie I know it's not gonna make big power without the hyper race parts to accompany it. My main goal is to at least be as quick as the 103cc and hopefully be able to ride it more than most people with their full on race builds. I've talked to Jack Cecil about his 30HP race scoot before on the forum and he basically said he wouldn't even ride it around town. Essentially it's just for going out in the parking lot and kicking ass and then being parked again. That's badass to watch him do, but not for me. I love to ride.

    • @Delpzie
      @Delpzie 5 лет назад

      @@49ccscoot yea same for my scooter i drive it once-twice a week. And inspection after like 1000 1500km.

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      @@Delpzie Thankfully no scooter inspections here. So few of them around me that they rarely pay much attention to them.

  • @kamerad1985
    @kamerad1985 5 лет назад

    maybe you can solve your sealing problems by converting the head gasket seal to an o-ring seal like the new top performances cylinder has. Greetings from Germany =)

  • @ahole5407
    @ahole5407 2 года назад

    MA'MA MIA... now thats'a nice'a piece'a
    😂

  • @Lofirider
    @Lofirider 4 года назад

    Its me again😁. Now i am wanting do upgrade to LC.My athena 70cc is struggling at 62mp(100kph) speed limits. Againts the wind and it wont keep up with the traffic lol.It can do 69mph but not ideal for air cooled cylinder to be WOT the entire ride just to keep up with traffic(to be on safe side not being rear eneded lol).I wonder if my Yasuni R can keep up with this tpr kit? Atleast for now and perhaps updgrade to polini or mhr pipe by summer next year hence this is more of a winter project.(Canadian eh!😅😅😅) First snow fall today no more riding 😥😥.
    Thanks for all the videos keep up the good work. You deserve more subs 👌👌

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  4 года назад

      Mine worked well with the Peace Pipe at 10-11kRPM, so maybe. You may want to see if you can find the stinger diameter for it. If it's too small it can make the engine run hot and even melt the piston. I'd guess it's OK, but it's worth a look.

  • @dirtriderz6881
    @dirtriderz6881 5 лет назад

    Excellent video series that is as educational as entertaining. Thank you so much and keep up the high quality videos! Do you have a patreon?

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      www.patreon.com/join/49cc

  • @kellyhill430
    @kellyhill430 4 года назад

    I might be splitting hairs here a little bit but for reference sake when you refer to a port in the cylinder the port is on the bottom of the cylinder and the hole that's inside the cylinder bore is actually the port window ...again , splitting hairs but things have names to eliminate confusion,so there you go.

  • @shoominati23
    @shoominati23 5 лет назад

    I was going to try the barikit 88cc kit .. I can get a really good price on it from a store in italy

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      I hadn't heard of that one before (TBH I don't follow a lot of high end stuff). Looked it up though. Looks fairly similar to this 86cc. Be sure to keep us updated somehow if you try it. Post on the forum or here or something.

    • @hugoglaes6813
      @hugoglaes6813 5 лет назад

      For a geared moped or scooter? If geared I would recommend the airsal extreme 88cc or the stage6 big racing 88cc better ports from factory

  • @robertponsford8493
    @robertponsford8493 5 лет назад +1

    Hi mi friend,please read this as it will help you no end. I’ve been following you for some time and your vids are great 👍🏻 I do the same thing as you and just wanted you to know a few key things that make everything come together like salt and pepper. 1st key item and something that I put off and off because of cost but since buying it its made my scooter go from 20 out of 100 to 100 and the item is a inner rotor mvt ignition not for the huge weight reduction but for the precision spark at the correct time at the correct rpm. Best thing I ever bought. Other 2 things are larger inlet carb etc and a proper expansion pipe to match your ccs and my bike is a road bike not race. Read 2 stroke tuners handbook by proffeser Gordon genings you will learn all from that 👍🏻

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      Thanks. I've read Bell's book and some of Jennings. Good stuff. What little I've looked at by Blair gets over my head. Anyway, yeah, I know it could use that stuff. Just gotta try it because no one else does... or at least they don't make it publicly known.

  • @TEAMVISKAT81
    @TEAMVISKAT81 5 лет назад

    nice :) if you're doing it right, you should easily get 19-20 horsepower because I've had the same cylinder kit, on my yamaha aerox, and their 77cc kit on my piaggio scooter. you need, their exhaust, or a yasuni c20 minium :)

    • @edgarnunes2026
      @edgarnunes2026 5 лет назад

      Hey for the 77cc do I need to do any kind of porting to put it on I see the that 86cc you need to do some porting and around how many hp you get on the 77cc

    • @TEAMVISKAT81
      @TEAMVISKAT81 5 лет назад

      @@edgarnunes2026 yes you need to port the engine case, for the cylinder skirts to fit, I didn't dyno tuned my old 77cc so don't know what it does of hp

  • @TheCobraClone58
    @TheCobraClone58 4 года назад

    You seem very knowledgeable and I was wondering if you can help me. I have a 04 kymco super 9s lc and was looking to get more out of it any help will be much appreciated.

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  4 года назад

      Haven't really messed with that platform, but basically a big bore kit and exhaust along with carb and CVT tuning can make a huge difference. You can do just a pipe or just a big bore kit, but they will need to be accompanied by tuning still. If you want specifics, you should consider joining the 49ccscoot forum. Some of the folks there will likely be able to give you better details about what's around for your scoot.

  • @nofuture6881
    @nofuture6881 5 лет назад +1

    Where's your hair Bro ??? Lol. Good video.

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад +2

      Kept falling out so I just saved it the trouble.

  • @daniel21915
    @daniel21915 5 лет назад

    Wow

  • @jasonyoung22
    @jasonyoung22 5 лет назад

    What type of headlight do you have on it now? Link? Thanks for your all your videos!

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад +1

      It's a Wysamic LED. I really like it. Best headlight that I've put on any of my scoots. I even rammed it into a deer and the headlight itself was still fine even though it smashed the housing and the 1/8" steel bracket for it! lol
      Headlight on amazon : amzn.to/2Odo3Mx
      Housing that I'm using on amazon : amzn.to/2O9RVcR

  • @VildeFX
    @VildeFX 5 лет назад +1

    Does the cylinder bridge have coating?

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      It does. Looks like they relieved it before it was coated. I would imagine that would greatly reduce the risk of chipping/flaking in that area vs doing it after.

  • @12enric
    @12enric 5 лет назад

    Hey, a fast question, I got a scooter with a Minarelli engine that has 80cc big bork on it, I would like to keep the stock air filter "It is the same air filter that you hav on the 2T" Should I remove the snorkel? and add a Malossi stock air filter like??
    Thank you so much

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      I usually just remove the snorkel and use the stock filter. If it's got a larger carb, then I open up the opening where the snorkel was a bit to be sure there's enough airflow. Wouldn't bother with that if it's a stock carb. Depending on the snorkel (they do vary from OK to restrictive) it may not even make much difference in performance with or without it when using the stock carb. Just remember to check your jetting if you mod the airbox in any way.

    • @12enric
      @12enric 5 лет назад

      @@49ccscoot okay, thanks, so then i will onlu take out the sborkel, apparr from that would you also change the stock air filter and put a OEM style malossi red filter ??
      About the Jets, what's the increase would you suggest me? Maybe +5 on lows and high? Over stock ?? Do you know what's the stock size of a usual minarelli 50cc stock carb ??
      Thank you so much

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      @@12enric I've used the stock filter with a 25mm carb on a 103cc at 12,000RPM. Seems fine to me, but if you prefer red air filters, go for it.
      Stock main jets vary greatly. I've seen a range from 50-something to around 80. Best bet is to increase jet size by at least 10% and then do tuning runs to see what actually works best with different jets.

  • @youthinasia9523
    @youthinasia9523 4 года назад

    Been a while since I checked in on your channel. I should've been more attentive to your channel since you have so much knowledge about these 2t's I'm into. I'm about to do a couple horizontal minarelli builds(2002 vinos) and possibly a couple CA50 builds(86 jog & 84 riva) I wanna do a "high-low comparison", as far as quality/cost/budget goes. Eventually I wanna put a horizontal minarelli in my salient/riva...idk yet🤷🏿‍♀️ but right now the CA50 in my jog is rockin, the one in my riva is super slow. I'd like to hear some opinions on these, also I'd like to compensate you for your time/effort if possible. I want them to be "streetable", but also want to haul ass to where I'm not having to rebuild after under 1k miles, ya know? Something somewhat reliable for both builds...sorta. I have a 70cc airsol bbk on my vino rn, single ring that's been doing good for the past few years, I don't always push it hard, nor for very long, but it's held up for a while. Although I can tune it better and put another pipe I have on it, it still hits mid 50s🤷🏿‍♀️ lmk what you think. I can send my email. Your videos are always the most straightforward and informative and we in the scooter community appreciate all you do!

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  4 года назад

      Something like a Yasuni C16 and a midrace bore goes a long way. Not a huge investement, but should make good power and last for a bit. I like the 86cc. The kit itself is somewhat reasonable. It's when you add a pipe and racing ignition and so on that the price starts to run away.

  • @Angel_the_Bunny
    @Angel_the_Bunny 5 лет назад

    Had to skip some sections of the video because I cant listen to styrofoam! Nails on a chalkboard I can stand but not the squeak squeak of the 'sfoam.

  • @hugoglaes6813
    @hugoglaes6813 5 лет назад +1

    Letting you know that you do get what you pay for especially with TPR stuff okay performance kinda shitty quality, the kits verry common here in Sweden would strongly recommend that you buy stuff from bidalot, stage6 or malossi when this cylinder blows up. Hyped for the build tho!

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад +1

      I'm hoping it holds together for a bit with me not pushing it hard.

    • @ikuzoburandeon
      @ikuzoburandeon 5 лет назад

      Dont scare him, also the problem TPR has is regarding the pistonring clearance. But mostly effected the AM6 line.
      Så kasst är inte TPR, mer handhavande, dvs folk som inte klarar av mecka.

  • @brazideccyrille572
    @brazideccyrille572 5 лет назад

    god project man come make run race in europe you can see what we make in frenche in tournoirs racing chanel one you tube

  • @RaceLab37
    @RaceLab37 3 года назад

    What scooter was this originally?

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  3 года назад +1

      2004 Vento Triton R4i (Chinese clone horizontal Minarelli engine [1E40QMB])

    • @RaceLab37
      @RaceLab37 3 года назад

      Thanks and could you tell me the cylinder stud spacing on the Minarelli engine. I'm trying to find a decent cylinder to fit on an EZ90 cub engine and I believe it's kind of like a Minarelli design? 12mm pin.

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  3 года назад +1

      @@RaceLab37 72mm diagonal stud spacing.

  • @Bidalotroxi
    @Bidalotroxi 5 лет назад

    Only reason you burned a hole in ur piston was too lean carb settings

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      Right, but what I don't like about aluminum is that you may not get a soft seize like iron bores. Run a little lean with iron and you often get lucky and it soft seizes. You fire it back up and carry on, richening it up ASAP. Aluminum is less forgiving and more likely to melt a piston before you really have a warning if something goes wrong.

    • @Bidalotroxi
      @Bidalotroxi 5 лет назад

      @@49ccscoot Oh yeah, i use only aluminium cylinders because how fast they cool down and how strong the coating is, i once seized my piston and the cylinder was in perfect condition and piston destroyed.

  • @brazideccyrille572
    @brazideccyrille572 5 лет назад

    but top perf its not the best for me one minarelie run race its neo carter for down and big fast or bidalot wr cylinder but for teste its god iff you whant some help

  • @jonnyc2.047
    @jonnyc2.047 4 года назад

    help me find one of theeeezzz for a zada 80 or pk 80 pleezz guys

  • @broo_shs
    @broo_shs 5 лет назад

    porting heads oi oi oi oi oi jiiihaaa

  • @herminigildodelacruzjr1752
    @herminigildodelacruzjr1752 5 лет назад

    They should have given the the product to you for free after all that gave them a free commercial on you're channel and the costs of the material is nothing compared to the amount of futre sales you are bringing to that store and product my opinion ☝️

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад +1

      I'm not someone that asks for freebies. I have had offers before from different places, but I prefer to make sure it's all on the up and up and have the freedom to tell my viewers exactly how things go, good or bad.

    • @herminigildodelacruzjr1752
      @herminigildodelacruzjr1752 5 лет назад

      @@49ccscoot i know that all im saying is that you deserve to get that kind respect giving you the product and using them or testing them is more than enough that they should give it to you for testing and not hold you to say what they want but because many of people whose been watching and learning from tutorial you've made in the past even the trips you have experience know that you're not going to lie about the product and i for one can honestly say that not all people have the integrity to be honest like you and I meant it

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      @@herminigildodelacruzjr1752 Thanks, but it comes down to the fact that they had no idea what I was doing with the kit.

  • @imtonedeaf1
    @imtonedeaf1 5 лет назад

    why are you seizing so many kits are you using synthic oil i run kits for years and wot hard as they will go blow rings out and wear pistins i engine break my stuff a lot too

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      What the 103 is doing is not sealing. I can get it to seal for a bit, but not a setup that I can trust. I've seized a lot of kits for various reasons. I did run 50:1 for years with AMSOil Saber. Then switched to AMSOil Dominator at 50:1. Currently using Dominator at 32:1. A lot of mine have been tuning or leaks though. Plus I ride a lot. 500 miles in a weekend in temps that can vary by about 40 degrees with no re-tuning and no mercy for it. One time I swapped to a larger main jet to be safe and found out later that the larger main jet was actually smaller. At that point I started tuning with same brand jets instead of mix and match. Stuff happens. I try to learn from it when I can.

    • @imtonedeaf1
      @imtonedeaf1 5 лет назад

      @@49ccscoot try using ulta grey gasket maker on the head gasket and around engine seal wont hurt to try thick handmade base gasket

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      @@imtonedeaf1 Oh, I've been through the ringer with it trying things. You'll see whenever I get a video of that.

  • @ikuzoburandeon
    @ikuzoburandeon 5 лет назад

    I really dont like minarelli clones but cpi are the "best" ones. :)

  • @ikuzoburandeon
    @ikuzoburandeon 5 лет назад

    Burning a hole to in the piston has nothing to do with the material, that was more heating/cooling, the squish, your jets and especially how the cylinder is breathing due to your exaust. Also ignition point.

    • @49ccscoot
      @49ccscoot  5 лет назад

      The ease of holing a piston does relate to materials. If the expansion rates and tolerances allow the piston to soft seize before it can get to melting point, then it doesn't melt. I have put holes in pistons in iron bores, but they are more forgiving of tuning issues.