Dear Andy, I’ve learned so much from watching your videos! I have managed to collect several vintage Singers and love them all. Right now, I’m using my 404 for heavier curtain fabric. What a treat it is to sew with!
Thank you. I sold many restored 404s to crafters who did upholstery, sailmaking, camping bags, etc. It remains my favorite HD straight stitch Singer machine. Thanks for the comment and I appreciate you watching.
Andy, as always, so interesting! I just love the way you teach things, straight to the point, no fuss, and so clearly as someone already said in the thread. Thank you, thank you! btw the 15-88 that needed the capacitor in the pedal removed, well, she purrs like a dream. And moreover, I have just finished restoring a beautiful black 201K with bespoke wheel, newest design, which is just the Bugatti of the Singers me thinks. So gorgeous! The ad said I could put plant on it for display, such was her state...for £20 I put her back to work, where she should be! And thanks to your encouragement, I dismantled the stuck tension unit and fixed it. A dream machine, just love to watch her going, stroking her...pure love (or fetish?), ahahah! Warm wishes from the other side of the pond! Anna
Thank you, Anna. I had an elder lady who bought a 301A from me for her grand-daughter. She herself owns a 201 she bought new. She said it is the Rolls-Royce of sewing machines and her daughters and grand-daughters pester her all the time to name them in her will! I've never even seen one in person myself. I tend to favor the slant needle cast aluminum models. I'm not sure, but I think you may be having too much fun! Thank you for saving those machines.
@@andytubesewing1953 Wow! Rolls Royce, even better! I don't have the old 201 version with the potted motor but the alloy one. Just think the design is so lovely...The daughters of the lady will have a big fight me thinks. She should decide beforehand the machine's destiny by flipping a coin, maybe. These disputes can tear family apart! ahah! As for me, I think you might be right about too much fun...especially when I spend the whole of Saturday watching your video series on the 99K, much, much better than Netflix and chill! LOL!
@@andytubesewing1953 glad I can reciprocate. Here is the information. The model I have got is the one in the picture where Alex is sewing the leather bag. sewalot.com/singer_201k_sewalot.htm
Thank you so much for this video Mr. Andy. I just acquired a 301 just like the one you have here and I enjoyed the run down you gave. I truly appreciate your videos. Be well.
Oh, you have a real treasure now. Here are a couple of Playlists with about 40 more videos for Model 301: ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKLZyGebzS_oISgesXNyREyI ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKI_6fbu3itbd1v4z3uQvvkO
Thank you very much. Ther is a lot of history with Singer. It has been interesting for me over the years to uncover parts of it as I work on the few models I have. It's like a never-ending story.
Ive got 2 404's and all because of my mom. She was an avid sewer and her brother who was a certified Singer trained mechanic swore by this machine and the 26-91 for toughness and beautiful stitch. Great video
While I'm not familiar with model 26-91, I totally agree with your uncle about model 404. My favorite heavy-duty straight stitch Singer sewing machine. Congrats on having two of them, and thanks for watching my channel.
@@famasmaster2000 No worries. I am familiar with the 15-91. Here is my playlist of 17 videos for model 15-91: ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKJftyGwzdDiWa9R6HFEACJo and my playlist of 56 videos for model 404: ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKIB4kvIHCfHYuyLMUp5A4UI
Hi Andy. Thank you for comparing the 404 to the 301. It was most insightful. I am struggling with trying to downsize my Vintage Sewing Machine collection, and your perspective is extremely helpful.
Thanks very much. All very nice models. I'm glad I don't have to decide between the 404 and the 301A and hope you can keep both. If the world was ending and I HAD to choose between those two I'd probably keep the 301A. Although the 404 is my favorite, the 301A would have more value now and in the future, I think. Whew, my head hurts just thinking of it, haha. Thanks for watching my channel again and take care.
@@andytubesewing1953 Would you keep the 404 only because it holds value or because it is a better machine? And what makes the 301A your favorite? I am doing the opposite. Not downsizing but shopping for a good refurbished vintage"workhorse" machine with not too many "Bells and Whistles" that I can maintain myself. Couldn't pay me to have any of the plastic new machines they make thees days.
@@4seasonshomestead773 I think I stated the 301 would hold more value. If you just want one of them get the nicest 301A you can find. It is more versatile because it is more portable and lighter and has a built-in handle. You can use a cradle system to mount in a cabinet but push a lever and lift it right out of the cabinet to take it anywhere. It is the only machine I know of that the stitch looks the same from the top or the bottom, it is almost as powerful as the 404.
I have all three; 221, 301, 404. I was going to sell my 404, but after listening to your tutorial, I think I'll hold onto it. How many stitches per minute are the 301, and the 401?
My mother had a machine just like the last one you showed, but hers had an area where most of the top would flip up and it had a hole where you would drop in different cams to make different stitches. She bought hers in 1964. I have it, but it's buried in the bottom of my closet in a box. It still runs, but there's something wrong with the tension. The stitches don't look right any more, so something is out of whack. It's still a strong machine, but compared to my other modern machines, it's loud! But back in the day, 60s-70s she sewed a lot of things on it. She began to teach me how to sew on it when I was 5 years old.
I would guess she had a model 503A from your description. Here is a playlist: ruclips.net/video/yotfpPMIiNs/видео.html I think you could fix the tension easily enough. In this series watch parts 14a thru 14f. ruclips.net/video/6RgiOegFx-I/видео.html How wonderful your Mom started teaching you at 5 ears old. I think that is rare in this day and age. I enjoyed your comment, thank you. Thanks for watching Andy Tube.
Thanks that was so helpful I know someone who is selling one at a sewing shop near me who recommended the featherweight 221 and the 301 recommended as well but it sounds like you really like the 404 I’m a beginner so her have sewn on and off for years but need to start with classes and want my own machine love vintage and things that are made properly. Thanks for the great video!!!
Welcome. There are all great machines, IMO. I just favor the stronger, heavy-duty 404. Most people would probably choose the 301A over it or even the little featherweight if they can afford one. If you get a 404 and need to rehab it I have 56 videos in a playlist for step-by-step restoration: ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKIB4kvIHCfHYuyLMUp5A4UI You can do any repair yourself and maintain the machine in tip-top condition. Your grandkids will thank you one day 🙂
Hi Andy, this was a very good comparison. I learned a lot about the moving Interior behind the needle bar. I finally got to see that moving 1/3 disc behind that needle bar.I think you said it stabilized the machine so that it wouldn’t vibrate while sewing. Thanks.
Thank you. I believe it's called the needle bar counter-balance. Also called the crank. On the other end of the horizontal arm shaft, behind the handwheel, is another counter-balance. It is my understanding that they help the arm shaft run smoothly with less vibration, ie: balanced.
hello Andy, could you please tell me which way the needle goes in a 99k, thank you for all your fantastic advice and information, and you explain things so very well
Nice video. thank you.. very informative.. I like the 404..looks like it was the "muscle car" of the vintage singers.. might have to keep my eyes open for one.... nahh, I shouldn't buy any more VSM's. lol
It has the same mechanics as your 503A; direct drive motor, all steel gears, but no zigzag or cam stack, so all that power goes right to the needle bar, Whew! The follow-up model to the 301A but with a front drop-in bobbin system and class 66 bobbins. They beefed up some of the bushings, too, and called it their "Heavy Duty" model and most high schools used it in their sewing classes. Maybe you should buy more? My theory was if they stacked up higher than the sofa I had to start selling some.
@@andytubesewing1953 Sounds like a powerful one.... so what's one more VSM.. I could make room... 😅. then I can sew on each of them, and decide which ones I want to keep... haha.... I can't remember what the machines looked like when I was in Home-Ec.? Jr. high.. late 60's.. I do remember making a skirt though,, I think I picked some fabric that would have been better suited for drapes or upholstery, haha... so they probably were heavy duty machines.
Andy, when are you going to do a video on one of the Swing Needle Singers. I think you would like them. Easy to use a different bobbin case to use 15x1 needles.
Hey, Red. I'll just leave you with a couple of links here to my channel. ruclips.net/video/AQt0GzHdj30/видео.html and my main playlist page containing almost 600 videos about vintage Singer Sewing Machines: ruclips.net/channel/UCUSPDsHaFtRoz1VA2U1xJ4wplaylists Thanks for watching my channel, and take care.
OK, thanks for sharing that Ruben. For other viewers here is a link to some info about model 319K: www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/319/ I don't remember saying the 301 is the only machine with a handle and if I implied that I'm sorry for the misrepresentation. @16:16 I attempted to point out it is the only machine Singer made as a portable that could be snapped into a cabinet with a cradle system. Thanks for watching my channel. Take Care.
Hi Andy. My mother-in-law recently passed away and we found a Home Craft sewing machine in a closet. It's definitely an old sewing machine, but I can't find any information on it. Would you have any information or knowledge of this brand?
"Definitely an old sewing machine" would be from 1900 to 1990. Sorry, never heard of that brand. Try doing a Google Picture Search. If it is a heavy black iron machine it may be a Japanese clone of a Singer model 15, 66, or 99.
The model 191b is a class 15 machine (bobbins) The B means it was made in Bonnières, France. The 191K was made in Kilbowie< Scottland and there was a model made in Quebec, Canada. Parts & supplies can be harder to find if you are in the USA. I know it came in a treadle version, and hand-crank version and possibly an electric motor version, or a kit to convert to an electric motor. It has a low straight shank needle bar system. I would not buy it personally. It's a transition machine; a nothing burger. If you want a 15 class then go for an iron horse 15 with the direct drive potted motor. By far I would choose a Model 404, or 403A over either of those class 15 machines. The 404 is straight stitch w/ reverse, is affordable, parts are readily available, and it was designed as a heavy duty machine. The straight stitch version of the hugely popular 401A. The Model 403A is the middle sister with zigzag sewing. Either one of those will sew denim, canvas, duck cloth, vinyl, Naugahyde, upholstery fabrics, and garment leather. The have a slant-needle design that allows you to see the work area so much better. They use a direct drive steel gearing system and have an enclosed PA style motor that is rated at .7 amps and peaks at close to 1 amp. They are easy to maintain and can easily last your lifetime if kept cleaned and oiled. You can download a free 60 page instruction manual here: www.singer.com/sites/default/files/product_manual/SINGER%20404%20Slant%20Needle%20Sewing%20Machine.pdf I have over 60 videos on my chaannel about the 404 and 403A, including a step-by-step restoration series for the 404. It is one of my favorite machines. Get the 403A if you require Zigzag, although a zigzag attchment is available for the 404.
They're all fine straight stitchers, but out of the three, I'd choose the 301 first (I prefer the vertical bobbin and it is FAST as greased lightning) the 404 second (it's easy to use, sturdy and reliable) and the 221 last (it's a great collectible, but not really a machine for your everyday sewing.)
I'm glad you liked it. It was fun for me showing how the straight stitch machines evolved over time. Nice of you to comment. I hope you will tune in again soon.
I know this was done about 6 years ago, but I can't think of a single singer sewing machine, much less any other sewing machines that had a timing belt during the '40s or before '50s. I think you have to get into the '60s before they start putting a timing belt into the sewing machines
It was only sold in the USA and Canada in the 1950s. I guess it depends on your definition of the UK. If Canada was not part of the UK at that time, then it was not sold in the UK. I'm basing that on this 301 website; www.singer301.com/about/default.html in a section about 80% down the page.
@@donnalevett4818 Thank you. All the models in this video have spread to the EU and beyond. I have viewers in about 180 counties and emails from about 120. I've always wished the machines could talk. I've heard of a 401A in Thailand, and 338 in Iceland. Hope you have a nice 2022 and take care.
Thanks for the kind words. I also have a comparison of the 401A, 403A & 404 machines: ruclips.net/video/Nee9PavxWhs/видео.html On requests I then did a comparison of the 403A Slant-O-Matic to the 503A Rocketeer: ruclips.net/video/8_okOHCN8jY/видео.html Thanks for watchng my channel.
Today is still June 8, 2020. Here is a video from May 10, 2017, for removing the bobbin winder system on a model 404. It would be the same parts on the 301A ruclips.net/video/H_1nwm5MryY/видео.html Here is a video from June 9, 2017, for installing the bobbin winder system ruclips.net/video/UGZyNRgOLcA/видео.html When the stop is installed YOU must adjust it to how full you want your bobbins to be. You do that by loosening the screw and moving the stop up or down and tightening the screw and testing with a bobbin. There is no measurement or marking to tell you how high or low to put the stop. You can also fill a bobbin to the point you want, then slide the stop into the bobbin until it starts to move the tire from the handwheel and then set the stop at that point and tighten the screw. BTW, here are 500+ more videos for vintage Singer machines, listed by model number or type of device. There are more videos for the 301 and 404 in playlists. Thank you for watching my channel.✨🙂
Have had my early Singer Zig Zag since the 1960's, probably the latter half of 60's. Just cannot remember exactly. Hasn't been in my possession in quite awhile. Recently was returned to me. It must be all metal. I can no longer lift it alone. Lol. Instruction book lost. Where do I find the model number on this thing. Reacquainted myself with the unique bobbin winding method but may need to replace belt soon.
There are many model numbers of Singer machines and over the years they put the model number/name in different locations. This search will give you some sources to help you find it on your machine. Good Luck. www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=imgXW_b-K6mYtgW354GoBA&q=how+to+find+singer+model+number&oq=how+to+find+singer+model+number&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0j0i22i30k1.4953.16545.0.17026.32.26.0.5.5.0.113.2542.17j9.26.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..1.31.2557.0..0i131k1.0.n1y80FiaXfE
Hi Andy. I’ve learned a great deal from your videos. Thanks!! I am getting my moms 301 machine fixed and was told I need a new (original) 301, 221) bobbin case. I found this on line, SINGER Featherweight Bobbin, Case Simanco 45750 USA 221 222 301 OEM Original. It’s says original but it is also called Simanco. Please confirm this as the correct replacement bobbin. Thanks very very much!!!! Melanie
I can't confirm what I can't see/touch. The bobbin case has several parts to it and they each have a part number. people believe that the 221 featherweight and 301A Slant Needle models use the same bobbin case, and that may be true. I can positively say that SIMANCO is Singer. SIMANCO is an acronym standing for Singer Manufacturing Co. So SIMANCO & SINGER are one in the same companies. There are several brands of after-market 301A bobbin cases starting at less than $20 and their quality varies. I have used $30 to $50 cases with great success. If you have the money an original case (in good working condition) is always best, but buy from a seller who guarantees and offers returns. The Featherweight Shop has a replacement case made to their specifications and guarantees it will work if you have the original hook on your machine and use a quality bobbin. singer-featherweight.com/collections/301-parts/products/singer-featherweight-bobbin-case-tfs You did not mention the price for the case you are looking at but original cases in working order are expensive for most of us. www.novamontgomery.com/shop/Singer-Model-301-Parts/p/Bobbin-Case-original-part-45750.htm A $40 case made by TOWA in Japan has been popular for a number of years. I have also used $16 dollar replacement cases that work, although they were quite noisy. www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=singer+model+301+a+bobbin+case&_sacat=0 Lots of choices, right Melanie? If you can afford it an original part is almost always better than an after-market, non-OEM part (Original Equipment Manufactured) Thanks for watching my channel.
I've never done that and think it's a bad idea. The motor housings are different sizes, but the 301 motor may "fit" inside the 401, but it's a lower-rated AMP motor. The motor shafts are of different sizes. On the end of the motor shaft is a pinion gear that meshes with the handwheel gear. These two motors have different pinion gears and the handwheels and handwheel gears are different, and I think mixing them together is asking for problems, especially with the handwheel gear. Could it work? I guess, but I would not do it.
@@andytubesewing1953 Thank you so much for your prompt reply! I won't try it then. I have both machines and haven't attempted to tune-up the 401a motor yet. I will start watching those specific videos of yours and give it a try. (the 401 is running very slowly and I've taken everything apart except the motor, oiled, greased and cleaned, but still running slow). Thank you so much!
@@mayahansen5696 I get it! over the years I have found that when people tell me the motor is "not quite as fast" that it could well be a motor tune-up is needed. Here is the quickest way I know to see if the motor is the problem: ruclips.net/video/pzq4tv8qn94/видео.html On the other hand, when people tell me the motor is "running very slowly" I find that the foot controller needs rehab, like cleaning the carbon stack and adjusting the contacts. This is an overlooked area.I've had people take a machine halfway apart and adjusted and used 4oz of oil with no improvement, but rehab the pedal and zoom, "sewing like when I bought it 40 years ago". Here is a series of videos about your foot controller. ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKL6ePPxLpmnWSzTyxPKTb71 Something for you to think about? Good Luck, Maya.
Andy. Love your videos. Have mint 403a and 404. Agree 404 my favorite. Trying to locate model number or supplier for free motion quilt foot. Purchased HoneySew for slant shaft #P60417 said to fit 300-400-500 Singers but it does not work. Fits shaft just fine but on up stroke of needle does not touch the spring arm. It is to high to engage. Can you direct me to one that fits? Thanks. Mark
Hi, Mark. I looked at the foot you bought, and understand what you mean. I don't sew a lick, so I had to ask around and here is what I found out. The original vintage darning/quilting foot for these models is part no. 161162. When found on eBay it sells for $75 and up (and up) www.etsy.com/listing/120521475/rare-singer-401-darning-embroidery Some of the quilters I emailed today do not use a foot of any kind, just a hoop or their hands to guide the fabric. (that is what I'd call 'skilled") Many use "The Original Big Foot for Slant Shank Sewing Machines" ruclips.net/video/US9s1qa0LCE/видео.html On eBay: www.ebay.com/itm/BIG-FOOT-SLANT-Shank-Presser-Quilting-Sewing-Machine-Darning-Foot-by-Lynn-Graves-/290927935499 A couple of them thought the foot you bought would work, and many sites sell them for slant shank machines. They wondered if the spring is "adjustable" and if you lowered the presser bar tension by turning the knob up top far to the counter-clockwise area. They pointed out that a similar foot is listed at sew-classic specifically for the 401, 403 and many of us have bought from sew-classic for years without any problems. It looks like the foot you bought. If me, I would email Sue there and ask if I'm installing/adjusting it correctly. We would be really shocked if she sold something that did not work right. Here is the site: shop.sew-classic.com/Singer-Slant-Shank-Deluxe-Darning-Free-Motion-Foot-MARKED-P60417.htm Finally, here is a video of a well-known creative artist showing a different foot on his 401A that works great, but he doesn't name the foot, or where he bought it. Maybe you could email him to see. ruclips.net/video/3-yzcTlLYLw/видео.html This may be the foot in his video: www.ebay.com/itm/SINGER-SEWING-MACHINE-SLANT-NEEDLE-401-403-500-600-700-DARNING-FOOT-FREE-MOTION-/361504942735?hash=item542b5faa8f:g:9ZcAAOSw9IpX1Z98 If any of these ideas work out for you, we would love to hear back from you to share with the community of sewing/quilting/restoring fananti...er, ah, um....enthusiasts. Best of Luck, and thank you for watching my video.
Andy Tube Thanks so much Andy. Will pursue and not by again until I talk with knowledgeable folks. I will let you know how it works out. Have not viewed your 404 restoration but I'm sure it will help me keep these old girls purring. Sewing mostly boat stuff. Sailrite type covers but looking forward to my first quilt. I do love well
From covers to quilts, your two machines can sew it all. With all the cams, double needles and ZZ sewing, that 403A can let your creativity fly. Please do let us know about any good Quilting foot, and maybe someday you will make a slide show of your quilting projects. All the best Mark.
Yes. Singer model 401A, 403A & 404 have very similar parts and in general would work on any of those models. I recently saw a 401A using a 457 tension unit.It is mostly the size and length of the stud. If the stud will go in the hole and be held level and the unit sticks out enough from the body I think your OK. Some sellers have brand new tension units, often cheaper than a used vintage unit that they claim will work on your 404. They look different, but they claim it will work properly and advertise it specifically for the 401, 403, 404, etc. Here is just one of the sellers: www.singeronline.com/sitedipa4.html
@@scotta3906 That at least gets you sewing in the meantime. When the units come up for sale on eBay they sell quickly. You have to check for a new listing every couple of hours. Best wishes, Tony
OK. My mistake to call it an oscillating hook. You are correct; the hook rotates not oscillates. I still think of it as a vertical hook. It does sit on a Horizontal Shaft (x-axis). I call it a vertical hook b/c it sits vertically to the ground (y-axis) versus the hook on the 404 with the front, top drop-in bobbin system, which Singer also calls a horizontal rotary hook in their literature. You surely are correctly calling it a Rotary Hook. All three of these machines have a rotating hook. My bad. Thanks for your comment and for watching my channel.l
Hi Eleonore. Here is a link to a very nice video showing all the oil points of your 221. ruclips.net/video/-OyRXkSLcY8/видео.html Anyone can email me at my RUclips Channel email address: andytube53@gmail.com Thank you for watching AndyTube.
Andy, I am trying to reach out as a few friends suggested you might have my answer. I was bequeathed a tan Centennial 301 (yes really.. NA000420) and I am struggling to get it to work properly. After it picks up the bobbin thread properly, the upper thread keeps winding around the bobbin base tab when I try to stitch. I've changed the throatplate, the hook assembly, the bobbin case, etc. with spares, and I keep getting the same result. I do have the proper 301 parts installed (not similar 221 parts). I do have a picture, but hopefully, I've described it well enough.
Hello Brad, welcome to Andy Tube. A couple possibilities. The Rotating Hook Loop Guard (part 170128) is attached to the backside of the hook. It can be worn and scratched, and thread can hang-up on it. You may be familiar with Terry Fielding’s website www.tandtrepair.com/ on his featherweight page he has a free guide he wrote showing how to remove/repair/replace the Loop Guard. It pertains to your 301 model as well. The other thought is to be sure the Hub of the Hook is up against the Hook Shaft Collar. Not so tight as to bind, but no gap between the Hub & Collar. Since you can pick-up the bobbin thread it seems the timing is OK, so the position of the hook on the shaft may be affecting actual stitch forming at running speed. If you need an Adjusters Manual they are for sale on eBay, Internet and so forth. Scribd.com may have a free copy if you are a member.
Thank you kindly for the reply. After I asked, I was able to learn the problem/solution. This new-to-me machine apparently had someone put a screwdriver where it didn't belong! The solution is that the two positioning springs on the throatplate had been bent out of shape and were causing the threads to be unable to slip off the tab! While springs could have worn and opened up a little with usage, or plugged up with lint (none there), in this case someone had to have bent them for this to have happened. I would suspect someone heard noise from the bobbin base and, instead of oiling it, they probably thought the noise was at the tab...and very wrongfully decided to bend them closer together to eliminate any "slap" of the tab. I am happy to report that the machine is sewing well after I put another plate in it. After that, I took the springs off of the old plate and bent them back into shape and replaced it. It also now works! Apparently, with all my switching out of parts (like the hook assemblies), I did NOT previously exchange the throatplate as I had thought. Hope this info is of use to you, and thank you again for your willingness to help!
Congratulations! It would have taken me quite a few tries to discover the problem. I figured you changed the throat plate so moved on. Don't you wish your machine could talk? I'm happy you have it running well and congratulations on owning such a rare 301. Best Wishes.
Amen to that! Models 301, 301A, 401A, 403A, 404, 500A, 503A not belts of any kind and loving that direct gear driven motor! Some older models 15 and 201 also had a "potted" direct drive motor mounted on the back. Thanks for watching my channel!
Bobbins Don't really oscillate or rotate like you're thinking it's the hook that does that but your thinking is correct the hooks on these three models all rotate and do not oscillate that it was my mistake thanks for watching
You are correct, Laura, and I stated that in the description below the video. I apologize to you for my mistake. Mea Culpa. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the video, or is that it?
Ok I may be needing you soon my rocket not working right again and my hubby bought me 5 machines for my bday. 99k. 457 630 and 2 Kenmore miss talking machine with you
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Dear Andy, I’ve learned so much from watching your videos! I have managed to collect several vintage Singers and love them all. Right now, I’m using my 404 for heavier curtain fabric. What a treat it is to sew with!
Thank you. I sold many restored 404s to crafters who did upholstery, sailmaking, camping bags, etc. It remains my favorite HD straight stitch Singer machine. Thanks for the comment and I appreciate you watching.
Andy, as always, so interesting! I just love the way you teach things, straight to the point, no fuss, and so clearly as someone already said in the thread. Thank you, thank you! btw the 15-88 that needed the capacitor in the pedal removed, well, she purrs like a dream. And moreover, I have just finished restoring a beautiful black 201K with bespoke wheel, newest design, which is just the Bugatti of the Singers me thinks. So gorgeous! The ad said I could put plant on it for display, such was her state...for £20 I put her back to work, where she should be! And thanks to your encouragement, I dismantled the stuck tension unit and fixed it. A dream machine, just love to watch her going, stroking her...pure love (or fetish?), ahahah! Warm wishes from the other side of the pond! Anna
Thank you, Anna. I had an elder lady who bought a 301A from me for her grand-daughter. She herself owns a 201 she bought new. She said it is the Rolls-Royce of sewing machines and her daughters and grand-daughters pester her all the time to name them in her will! I've never even seen one in person myself. I tend to favor the slant needle cast aluminum models. I'm not sure, but I think you may be having too much fun! Thank you for saving those machines.
@@andytubesewing1953 Wow! Rolls Royce, even better! I don't have the old 201 version with the potted motor but the alloy one. Just think the design is so lovely...The daughters of the lady will have a big fight me thinks. She should decide beforehand the machine's destiny by flipping a coin, maybe. These disputes can tear family apart! ahah!
As for me, I think you might be right about too much fun...especially when I spend the whole of Saturday watching your video series on the 99K, much, much better than Netflix and chill! LOL!
@@cometahyakutake9375 I learn so much from viewers. I never knew there is an alloy version of the 201. Thanks.
@@andytubesewing1953 glad I can reciprocate. Here is the information. The model I have got is the one in the picture where Alex is sewing the leather bag.
sewalot.com/singer_201k_sewalot.htm
Thank you so much for this video Mr. Andy. I just acquired a 301 just like the one you have here and I enjoyed the run down you gave. I truly appreciate your videos. Be well.
Oh, you have a real treasure now. Here are a couple of Playlists with about 40 more videos for Model 301:
ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKLZyGebzS_oISgesXNyREyI
ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKI_6fbu3itbd1v4z3uQvvkO
@@andytubesewing1953 Thanks so much. I will go watch. You ae a treasure.
As I learn more about the history of Singer machines, this video makes much more sense to me. Very good comparison of the 3 machines.
Thank you very much. Ther is a lot of history with Singer. It has been interesting for me over the years to uncover parts of it as I work on the few models I have. It's like a never-ending story.
Ive got 2 404's and all because of my mom. She was an avid sewer and her brother who was a certified Singer trained mechanic swore by this machine and the 26-91 for toughness and beautiful stitch. Great video
While I'm not familiar with model 26-91, I totally agree with your uncle about model 404. My favorite heavy-duty straight stitch Singer sewing machine. Congrats on having two of them, and thanks for watching my channel.
@Andy Tube so sorry , meant to type 15-91. I didn't proof read before I sent the message. Sorry about that
@@famasmaster2000 No worries. I am familiar with the 15-91. Here is my playlist of 17 videos for model 15-91:
ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKJftyGwzdDiWa9R6HFEACJo and my playlist of 56 videos for model 404:
ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKIB4kvIHCfHYuyLMUp5A4UI
@Andy Tube excellent, thanks so much
Hi Andy. Thank you for comparing the 404 to the 301. It was most insightful. I am struggling with trying to downsize my Vintage Sewing Machine collection, and your perspective is extremely helpful.
Thanks very much. All very nice models. I'm glad I don't have to decide between the 404 and the 301A and hope you can keep both. If the world was ending and I HAD to choose between those two I'd probably keep the 301A. Although the 404 is my favorite, the 301A would have more value now and in the future, I think. Whew, my head hurts just thinking of it, haha. Thanks for watching my channel again and take care.
@@andytubesewing1953 Would you keep the 404 only because it holds value or because it is a better machine? And what makes the 301A your favorite? I am doing the opposite. Not downsizing but shopping for a good refurbished vintage"workhorse" machine with not too many "Bells and Whistles" that I can maintain myself. Couldn't pay me to have any of the plastic new machines they make thees days.
@@4seasonshomestead773 I think I stated the 301 would hold more value. If you just want one of them get the nicest 301A you can find. It is more versatile because it is more portable and lighter and has a built-in handle. You can use a cradle system to mount in a cabinet but push a lever and lift it right out of the cabinet to take it anywhere. It is the only machine I know of that the stitch looks the same from the top or the bottom, it is almost as powerful as the 404.
I have all three; 221, 301, 404. I was going to sell my 404, but after listening to your tutorial, I think I'll hold onto it. How many stitches per minute are the 301, and the 401?
My mother had a machine just like the last one you showed, but hers had an area where most of the top would flip up and it had a hole where you would drop in different cams to make different stitches. She bought hers in 1964. I have it, but it's buried in the bottom of my closet in a box. It still runs, but there's something wrong with the tension. The stitches don't look right any more, so something is out of whack. It's still a strong machine, but compared to my other modern machines, it's loud! But back in the day, 60s-70s she sewed a lot of things on it. She began to teach me how to sew on it when I was 5 years old.
I would guess she had a model 503A from your description. Here is a playlist:
ruclips.net/video/yotfpPMIiNs/видео.html
I think you could fix the tension easily enough. In this series watch parts 14a thru 14f.
ruclips.net/video/6RgiOegFx-I/видео.html
How wonderful your Mom started teaching you at 5 ears old. I think that is rare in this day and age.
I enjoyed your comment, thank you. Thanks for watching Andy Tube.
I have to agree , the 404 is a heaver duty machine. My 404 is a true work horse!
Thanks for watching, Leah. Of the three models I like 404 best, but they are all great machines.
Brilliant tour of sewing machine history. Thank you Andy!
Thanks for watching, marc. I appreciate your comment.
Thanks that was so helpful I know someone who is selling one at a sewing shop near me who recommended the featherweight 221 and the 301 recommended as well but it sounds like you really like the 404 I’m a beginner so her have sewn on and off for years but need to start with classes and want my own machine love vintage and things that are made properly. Thanks for the great video!!!
Welcome. There are all great machines, IMO. I just favor the stronger, heavy-duty 404. Most people would probably choose the 301A over it or even the little featherweight if they can afford one. If you get a 404 and need to rehab it I have 56 videos in a playlist for step-by-step restoration: ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKIB4kvIHCfHYuyLMUp5A4UI
You can do any repair yourself and maintain the machine in tip-top condition. Your grandkids will thank you one day 🙂
Hi Andy, this was a very good comparison. I learned a lot about the moving Interior behind the needle bar. I finally got to see that moving 1/3 disc behind that needle bar.I think you said it stabilized the machine so that it wouldn’t vibrate while sewing. Thanks.
Thank you. I believe it's called the needle bar counter-balance. Also called the crank. On the other end of the horizontal arm shaft, behind the handwheel, is another counter-balance. It is my understanding that they help the arm shaft run smoothly with less vibration, ie: balanced.
hello Andy, could you please tell me which way the needle goes in a 99k, thank you for all your fantastic advice and information, and you explain things so very well
flat side of the shank towards the handwheel to the right. ruclips.net/video/Myqx7XWWquo/видео.html
Andy, that was a fascinating your of these three machines. BTW, I have a 301A.
Thanks very much and with that 301 A you sure picked a winner didn't you? I appreciate that you watch my channel
Nice video. thank you.. very informative.. I like the 404..looks like it was the "muscle car" of the vintage singers.. might have to keep my eyes open for one.... nahh, I shouldn't buy any more VSM's. lol
It has the same mechanics as your 503A; direct drive motor, all steel gears, but no zigzag or cam stack, so all that power goes right to the needle bar, Whew! The follow-up model to the 301A but with a front drop-in bobbin system and class 66 bobbins. They beefed up some of the bushings, too, and called it their "Heavy Duty" model and most high schools used it in their sewing classes. Maybe you should buy more? My theory was if they stacked up higher than the sofa I had to start selling some.
@@andytubesewing1953 Sounds like a powerful one.... so what's one more VSM.. I could make room... 😅. then I can sew on each of them, and decide which ones I want to keep... haha.... I can't remember what the machines looked like when I was in Home-Ec.? Jr. high.. late 60's.. I do remember making a skirt though,, I think I picked some fabric that would have been better suited for drapes or upholstery, haha... so they probably were heavy duty machines.
@@connieworcester55 That's the spirit!
Hi Andy, do you have any knowledge with the Singer 107G253? It's sister machine was 107G201. Having problem adjusting
Ceasar, email andymanuals53@gamil and put "107g253" in the subject line. I will reply with a free copy of the 17-page Service Manual.
Thank you for the great info.
Best of luck, and they wait for your email. I misspelled it though. andymanuals@gmail.com sorry, not gamil. My bad, Cesar.
Andy, when are you going to do a video on one of the Swing Needle Singers. I think you would like them. Easy to use a different bobbin case to use 15x1 needles.
Hey, Red. I'll just leave you with a couple of links here to my channel. ruclips.net/video/AQt0GzHdj30/видео.html and my main playlist page containing almost 600 videos about vintage Singer Sewing Machines: ruclips.net/channel/UCUSPDsHaFtRoz1VA2U1xJ4wplaylists Thanks for watching my channel, and take care.
Hi Andy. It is not the only singer model with a handle. The Singer 319k also has a same similar handle.
OK, thanks for sharing that Ruben. For other viewers here is a link to some info about model 319K: www.singersewinginfo.co.uk/319/
I don't remember saying the 301 is the only machine with a handle and if I implied that I'm sorry for the misrepresentation. @16:16 I attempted to point out it is the only machine Singer made as a portable that could be snapped into a cabinet with a cradle system. Thanks for watching my channel. Take Care.
Hi Andy. My mother-in-law recently passed away and we found a Home Craft sewing machine in a closet. It's definitely an old sewing machine, but I can't find any information on it. Would you have any information or knowledge of this brand?
"Definitely an old sewing machine" would be from 1900 to 1990. Sorry, never heard of that brand. Try doing a Google Picture Search. If it is a heavy black iron machine it may be a Japanese clone of a Singer model 15, 66, or 99.
Thank you!! So helpful.
Nice comment and thank you very much. 🙏
What do you think about the 191B? I need something to sew over thick material. My old Elna doesn’t have enough guts. Also 404 is available.
The model 191b is a class 15 machine (bobbins) The B means it was made in Bonnières, France. The 191K was made in Kilbowie< Scottland and there was a model made in Quebec, Canada. Parts & supplies can be harder to find if you are in the USA. I know it came in a treadle version, and hand-crank version and possibly an electric motor version, or a kit to convert to an electric motor. It has a low straight shank needle bar system. I would not buy it personally. It's a transition machine; a nothing burger. If you want a 15 class then go for an iron horse 15 with the direct drive potted motor.
By far I would choose a Model 404, or 403A over either of those class 15 machines. The 404 is straight stitch w/ reverse, is affordable, parts are readily available, and it was designed as a heavy duty machine. The straight stitch version of the hugely popular 401A. The Model 403A is the middle sister with zigzag sewing. Either one of those will sew denim, canvas, duck cloth, vinyl, Naugahyde, upholstery fabrics, and garment leather. The have a slant-needle design that allows you to see the work area so much better. They use a direct drive steel gearing system and have an enclosed PA style motor that is rated at .7 amps and peaks at close to 1 amp. They are easy to maintain and can easily last your lifetime if kept cleaned and oiled. You can download a free 60 page instruction manual here:
www.singer.com/sites/default/files/product_manual/SINGER%20404%20Slant%20Needle%20Sewing%20Machine.pdf
I have over 60 videos on my chaannel about the 404 and 403A, including a step-by-step restoration series for the 404. It is one of my favorite machines. Get the 403A if you require Zigzag, although a zigzag attchment is available for the 404.
They're all fine straight stitchers, but out of the three, I'd choose the 301 first (I prefer the vertical bobbin and it is FAST as greased lightning) the 404 second (it's easy to use, sturdy and reliable) and the 221 last (it's a great collectible, but not really a machine for your everyday sewing.)
You must know my wife b/c she totally agrees with you!
thank you very much for this video, learn a lot about these machine beside sewing. Very informative, enjoy v much.
I'm glad you liked it. It was fun for me showing how the straight stitch machines evolved over time. Nice of you to comment. I hope you will tune in again soon.
I know this was done about 6 years ago, but I can't think of a single singer sewing machine, much less any other sewing machines that had a timing belt during the '40s or before '50s. I think you have to get into the '60s before they start putting a timing belt into the sewing machines
Thank you!
How are you? ❤️
Am I right the 301 was not available in the UK?
It was only sold in the USA and Canada in the 1950s. I guess it depends on your definition of the UK. If Canada was not part of the UK at that time, then it was not sold in the UK. I'm basing that on this 301 website; www.singer301.com/about/default.html in a section about 80% down the page.
@@andytubesewing1953 Thankyou I’ll keep and eye out for one of the others then. Very happy to have found your videos they are very informative
@@donnalevett4818 Thank you. All the models in this video have spread to the EU and beyond. I have viewers in about 180 counties and emails from about 120. I've always wished the machines could talk. I've heard of a 401A in Thailand, and 338 in Iceland. Hope you have a nice 2022 and take care.
Awesome Video so in depth on information love it!
Thanks for the kind words. I also have a comparison of the 401A, 403A & 404 machines: ruclips.net/video/Nee9PavxWhs/видео.html
On requests I then did a comparison of the 403A Slant-O-Matic to the 503A Rocketeer: ruclips.net/video/8_okOHCN8jY/видео.html
Thanks for watchng my channel.
@@andytubesewing1953 thanks ill check it out
@@midnightrider1178 Thanks
Que lindas máquinas, donde se consigue??buena explicación, saludos
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today is June 8, 2020 ... would you Please do a short video on how to replace the bobbin winder stop ... part #: 170109. Thank you
Today is still June 8, 2020. Here is a video from May 10, 2017, for removing the bobbin winder system on a model 404. It would be the same parts on the 301A ruclips.net/video/H_1nwm5MryY/видео.html Here is a video from June 9, 2017, for installing the bobbin winder system
ruclips.net/video/UGZyNRgOLcA/видео.html When the stop is installed YOU must adjust it to how full you want your bobbins to be. You do that by loosening the screw and moving the stop up or down and tightening the screw and testing with a bobbin. There is no measurement or marking to tell you how high or low to put the stop. You can also fill a bobbin to the point you want, then slide the stop into the bobbin until it starts to move the tire from the handwheel and then set the stop at that point and tighten the screw. BTW, here are 500+ more videos for vintage Singer machines, listed by model number or type of device. There are more videos for the 301 and 404 in playlists. Thank you for watching my channel.✨🙂
Have had my early Singer Zig Zag since the 1960's, probably the latter half of 60's. Just cannot remember exactly. Hasn't been in my possession in quite awhile. Recently was returned to me. It must be all metal. I can no longer lift it alone. Lol. Instruction book lost. Where do I find the model number on this thing. Reacquainted myself with the unique bobbin winding method but may need to replace belt soon.
There are many model numbers of Singer machines and over the years they put the model number/name in different locations. This search will give you some sources to help you find it on your machine. Good Luck. www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=imgXW_b-K6mYtgW354GoBA&q=how+to+find+singer+model+number&oq=how+to+find+singer+model+number&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0j0i22i30k1.4953.16545.0.17026.32.26.0.5.5.0.113.2542.17j9.26.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..1.31.2557.0..0i131k1.0.n1y80FiaXfE
Hi Andy. I’ve learned a great deal from your videos. Thanks!! I am getting my moms 301 machine fixed and was told I need a new (original) 301, 221) bobbin case. I found this on line, SINGER Featherweight Bobbin, Case Simanco 45750 USA 221 222 301 OEM Original. It’s says original but it is also called Simanco. Please confirm this as the correct replacement bobbin. Thanks very very much!!!! Melanie
I can't confirm what I can't see/touch. The bobbin case has several parts to it and they each have a part number. people believe that the 221 featherweight and 301A Slant Needle models use the same bobbin case, and that may be true. I can positively say that SIMANCO is Singer. SIMANCO is an acronym standing for Singer Manufacturing Co. So SIMANCO & SINGER are one in the same companies. There are several brands of after-market 301A bobbin cases starting at less than $20 and their quality varies. I have used $30 to $50 cases with great success. If you have the money an original case (in good working condition) is always best, but buy from a seller who guarantees and offers returns. The Featherweight Shop has a replacement case made to their specifications and guarantees it will work if you have the original hook on your machine and use a quality bobbin. singer-featherweight.com/collections/301-parts/products/singer-featherweight-bobbin-case-tfs
You did not mention the price for the case you are looking at but original cases in working order are expensive for most of us.
www.novamontgomery.com/shop/Singer-Model-301-Parts/p/Bobbin-Case-original-part-45750.htm
A $40 case made by TOWA in Japan has been popular for a number of years. I have also used $16 dollar replacement cases that work, although they were quite noisy. www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313&_nkw=singer+model+301+a+bobbin+case&_sacat=0
Lots of choices, right Melanie? If you can afford it an original part is almost always better than an after-market, non-OEM part (Original Equipment Manufactured) Thanks for watching my channel.
Can the 301 motor be used in the 401a?
I've never done that and think it's a bad idea. The motor housings are different sizes, but the 301 motor may "fit" inside the 401, but it's a lower-rated AMP motor. The motor shafts are of different sizes. On the end of the motor shaft is a pinion gear that meshes with the handwheel gear. These two motors have different pinion gears and the handwheels and handwheel gears are different, and I think mixing them together is asking for problems, especially with the handwheel gear. Could it work? I guess, but I would not do it.
@@andytubesewing1953 Thank you so much for your prompt reply! I won't try it then. I have both machines and haven't attempted to tune-up the 401a motor yet. I will start watching those specific videos of yours and give it a try. (the 401 is running very slowly and I've taken everything apart except the motor, oiled, greased and cleaned, but still running slow). Thank you so much!
@@mayahansen5696 I get it! over the years I have found that when people tell me the motor is "not quite as fast" that it could well be a motor tune-up is needed. Here is the quickest way I know to see if the motor is the problem: ruclips.net/video/pzq4tv8qn94/видео.html
On the other hand, when people tell me the motor is "running very slowly" I find that the foot controller needs rehab, like cleaning the carbon stack and adjusting the contacts. This is an overlooked area.I've had people take a machine halfway apart and adjusted and used 4oz of oil with no improvement, but rehab the pedal and zoom, "sewing like when I bought it 40 years ago".
Here is a series of videos about your foot controller. ruclips.net/p/PLsCOZgzzaiKL6ePPxLpmnWSzTyxPKTb71 Something for you to think about? Good Luck, Maya.
have you ever worked on a Kenmore 120-49?
Sorry, I have not. I only worked on a couple of Kenmore machines. IMO it is difficult to get information about them, and parts to repair them.
Only other person i've seen post about 1
Andy. Love your videos. Have mint 403a and 404. Agree 404 my favorite. Trying to locate model number or supplier for free motion quilt foot. Purchased HoneySew for slant shaft #P60417 said to fit 300-400-500 Singers but it does not work. Fits shaft just fine but on up stroke of needle does not touch the spring arm. It is to high to engage. Can you direct me to one that fits? Thanks. Mark
Hi, Mark. I looked at the foot you bought, and understand what you mean. I don't sew a lick, so I had to ask around and here is what I found out. The original vintage darning/quilting foot for these models is part no. 161162. When found on eBay it sells for $75 and up (and up)
www.etsy.com/listing/120521475/rare-singer-401-darning-embroidery
Some of the quilters I emailed today do not use a foot of any kind, just a hoop or their hands to guide the fabric. (that is what I'd call 'skilled")
Many use "The Original Big Foot for Slant Shank Sewing Machines"
ruclips.net/video/US9s1qa0LCE/видео.html
On eBay: www.ebay.com/itm/BIG-FOOT-SLANT-Shank-Presser-Quilting-Sewing-Machine-Darning-Foot-by-Lynn-Graves-/290927935499
A couple of them thought the foot you bought would work, and many sites sell them for slant shank machines. They wondered if the spring is "adjustable" and if you lowered the presser bar tension by turning the knob up top far to the counter-clockwise area.
They pointed out that a similar foot is listed at sew-classic specifically for the 401, 403 and many of us have bought from sew-classic for years without any problems. It looks like the foot you bought. If me, I would email Sue there and ask if I'm installing/adjusting it correctly. We would be really shocked if she sold something that did not work right. Here is the site:
shop.sew-classic.com/Singer-Slant-Shank-Deluxe-Darning-Free-Motion-Foot-MARKED-P60417.htm
Finally, here is a video of a well-known creative artist showing a different foot on his 401A that works great, but he doesn't name the foot, or where he bought it. Maybe you could email him to see.
ruclips.net/video/3-yzcTlLYLw/видео.html
This may be the foot in his video:
www.ebay.com/itm/SINGER-SEWING-MACHINE-SLANT-NEEDLE-401-403-500-600-700-DARNING-FOOT-FREE-MOTION-/361504942735?hash=item542b5faa8f:g:9ZcAAOSw9IpX1Z98
If any of these ideas work out for you, we would love to hear back from you to share with the community of sewing/quilting/restoring fananti...er, ah, um....enthusiasts. Best of Luck, and thank you for watching my video.
Andy Tube
Thanks so much Andy. Will pursue and not by again until I talk with knowledgeable folks. I will let you know how it works out. Have not viewed your 404 restoration but I'm sure it will help me keep these old girls purring. Sewing mostly boat stuff. Sailrite type covers but looking forward to my first quilt. I do love well
Made - American made fine machinery.
And to just let you know you were the reason I tracked down the 404 and then had to have the 403a. Was able to get all 22 cams on eBay.
From covers to quilts, your two machines can sew it all. With all the cams, double needles and ZZ sewing, that 403A can let your creativity fly. Please do let us know about any good Quilting foot, and maybe someday you will make a slide show of your quilting projects. All the best Mark.
Is this the famous Coco, Singer 301a?
Haha, I think that IS Coco; pre-spa treatment.
Can I use another singer tension assembly on a 404
Yes. Singer model 401A, 403A & 404 have very similar parts and in general would work on any of those models. I recently saw a 401A using a 457 tension unit.It is mostly the size and length of the stud. If the stud will go in the hole and be held level and the unit sticks out enough from the body I think your OK. Some sellers have brand new tension units, often cheaper than a used vintage unit that they claim will work on your 404. They look different, but they claim it will work properly and advertise it specifically for the 401, 403, 404, etc. Here is just one of the sellers:
www.singeronline.com/sitedipa4.html
Thanks Andy, maybe I’ll just get one of the Chinese ones till I locate an original one. Thanks for your time. Tony
@@scotta3906 That at least gets you sewing in the meantime. When the units come up for sale on eBay they sell quickly. You have to check for a new listing every couple of hours. Best wishes, Tony
Correction on the hook of the 221. It’s a Horizontal rotary hook, not a vertical oscillating hook. The 301’s are the same.
OK. My mistake to call it an oscillating hook. You are correct; the hook rotates not oscillates. I still think of it as a vertical hook. It does sit on a Horizontal Shaft (x-axis). I call it a vertical hook b/c it sits vertically to the ground (y-axis) versus the hook on the 404 with the front, top drop-in bobbin system, which Singer also calls a horizontal rotary hook in their literature. You surely are correctly calling it a Rotary Hook. All three of these machines have a rotating hook. My bad. Thanks for your comment and for watching my channel.l
Andy, can you please sent me the diagram of where to oil my singer 221 with the orange markers. I also need to purchase something.thanks
Hi Eleonore. Here is a link to a very nice video showing all the oil points of your 221.
ruclips.net/video/-OyRXkSLcY8/видео.html
Anyone can email me at my RUclips Channel email address: andytube53@gmail.com
Thank you for watching AndyTube.
Are any singers made in USA any more?
Last I heard, not since the early 1980s when they sold the company.
There's a reconditioned 301 on Etsy for for over $2000
Wow, I've been selling mine way to chap then 👀
Andy, I am trying to reach out as a few friends suggested you might have my answer. I was bequeathed a tan Centennial 301 (yes really.. NA000420) and I am struggling to get it to work properly. After it picks up the bobbin thread properly, the upper thread keeps winding around the bobbin base tab when I try to stitch. I've changed the throatplate, the hook assembly, the bobbin case, etc. with spares, and I keep getting the same result. I do have the proper 301 parts installed (not similar 221 parts). I do have a picture, but hopefully, I've described it well enough.
Hello Brad, welcome to Andy Tube. A couple possibilities. The Rotating Hook Loop Guard (part 170128) is attached to the backside of the hook. It can be worn and scratched, and thread can hang-up on it. You may be familiar with Terry Fielding’s website www.tandtrepair.com/ on his featherweight page he has a free guide he wrote showing how to remove/repair/replace the Loop Guard. It pertains to your 301 model as well.
The other thought is to be sure the Hub of the Hook is up against the Hook Shaft Collar. Not so tight as to bind, but no gap between the Hub & Collar. Since you can pick-up the bobbin thread it seems the timing is OK, so the position of the hook on the shaft may be affecting actual stitch forming at running speed.
If you need an Adjusters Manual they are for sale on eBay, Internet and so forth. Scribd.com may have a free copy if you are a member.
Thank you kindly for the reply.
After I asked, I was able to learn the problem/solution.
This new-to-me machine apparently had someone put a screwdriver where it didn't belong! The solution is that the two positioning springs on the throatplate had been bent out of shape and were causing the threads to be unable to slip off the tab!
While springs could have worn and opened up a little with usage, or plugged up with lint (none there), in this case someone had to have bent them for this to have happened. I would suspect someone heard noise from the bobbin base and, instead of oiling it, they probably thought the noise was at the tab...and very wrongfully decided to bend them closer together to eliminate any "slap" of the tab.
I am happy to report that the machine is sewing well after I put another plate in it. After that, I took the springs off of the old plate and bent them back into shape and replaced it. It also now works! Apparently, with all my switching out of parts (like the hook assemblies), I did NOT previously exchange the throatplate as I had thought.
Hope this info is of use to you, and thank you again for your willingness to help!
Congratulations! It would have taken me quite a few tries to discover the problem. I figured you changed the throat plate so moved on. Don't you wish your machine could talk? I'm happy you have it running well and congratulations on owning such a rare 301. Best Wishes.
I wish someone would compare the stitch quality of the 201-2 and the Singer 404 and the singer 301/301A
What about the 201
We are waiting for your video on that one
So not more belt ! That is great
Amen to that! Models 301, 301A, 401A, 403A, 404, 500A, 503A not belts of any kind and loving that direct gear driven motor! Some older models 15 and 201 also had a "potted" direct drive motor mounted on the back. Thanks for watching my channel!
I thought all three of these machines had Rotating , not Oscillating Bobbins...
Bobbins Don't really oscillate or rotate like you're thinking it's the hook that does that but your thinking is correct the hooks on these three models all rotate and do not oscillate that it was my mistake thanks for watching
Rotary hook not occilating
You are correct, Laura, and I stated that in the description below the video. I apologize to you for my mistake. Mea Culpa. Is there anything else you'd like to say about the video, or is that it?
Ok I may be needing you soon my rocket not working right again and my hubby bought me 5 machines for my bday. 99k. 457 630 and 2 Kenmore miss talking machine with you