How To - Punctuation - NightCafe Studio - Stable Diffusion
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- This short video explores wether Punctuation make any difference in Ai-Art (text to image) prompting. In this video i sshow the differences between comma, full stop and Colon as well as no punctuation at all. (, . ::)
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Posting this again after we spoke on discord:
What I learned (meaning I'm not 100% sure about this) about stuff like this is:
Each prompt you write is called a "token." The AI makes images based on your tokens. I think Stable Diffusion (SD) has a limit of 75 tokens. And I think NightCafe (NC) has their own hard limit of 60 tokens (probably because of resource management, default sets like NSFW stuff, or something like that, but I'm just guessing here).
Now, when you add a comma, that comma uses a token. This is probably nothing most people need to think about, but if you want to really get your "bang for your buck" when adding prompts, then you might want to use something else. Your two colons works great because it's not something the SD reads as a token (I think). :P
Now, I haven't seen many people anywhere using NC talk about this, but I'm probably still too much of a newbie in the NC community, anyway. Did you know of the usage of the exclamation point and parentheses in SD? They, just like the colon, does not add any tokens. But what they can do is increase or decrease the weight of the token you wrote. Of course this isn't 100% set in stone, but just like how the SD focus more on the tokens at the start of the prompt list than the tokens at the end. So does the exclamation point and parentheses increase and decrease the weight of what they are attached to.
If you have: "smiling man", then SD will try and make that image. But if the man is, for example, smiling too much, then you can surround the smiling token with parentheses to tell the AI not to make the man smile as much. "(smiling) man", will change the image slightly.
When you instead want to increase the weight of a token, then you can have an exclamation point attached to the token. "smiling! man" will change the image slightly.
But what I find cool is that the AI is not just able to read both exclamation point and parentheses in the same list. "(smiling) man!", for example. But it also reads how many exclamation point and parentheses you have on each token. "(((((smiling))))) man!!!!!!!!!!", changes the image much more.
Do note that I'm quite new at this SD thing, so I'm probably missing a lot, or I might outright be wrong here. But I found the exclamation point and parentheses "tactic" to be an extremely useful tool to have when making your art! :D
Thanks for the video. You work really quick! When you said you'd make this video yesterday, I didn't think you'd mean *tomorrow soon*! :P
Side question: How come you use NC when trying out your prompt lists and not a free version of SD instead? Doesn't it bother you to use credits on it?
PS: Thanks for your time (again), and sorry if I'm talking nonsense or the obvious. I just want to learn as much as I can about the SD! :)
Hey thanks for the comment, you clearly forgot to post it last time :O
So the parenthisis thing, and the multiple brackets etc - hmm not sure if that actually works, i tested it a lot a while ago and found no proof that it did what others claimed in the SD Discord. Most agreed with me however i havent tested it in V1.5 (we found it was confirmation bias) bit i cant say for sure.
I am a MOD in NC so i get free credits :)
@@aitexttoimage Yeah. I'm not 100% sure yet about it, as I haven't tested it enough. But I got quite surprised when looking at stuff like the link I'll add below. It might some sort of "inside joke" which I from the outside can't understand. :P
PS: I forgot to add your discount code when I bought some credits a couple of days ago! I just remembered it now! GAH!!
PSS: Your message doesn't get posted if you have links! That's why my first message vanished! I linked to a page about the "token" thing, but forgot to add it when I had to rewrite my message... for crying out loud Mr. google, you could have told me before I commented! :(
PSSS: I hope you don't get over flooded with identical replies as I tried to post the link, but youtube removed them all, or I think they removed them all :/
you know of a free SD? whats it called
I'm working with the free [daily] credits still. Gotta remember your coupon code when I apply for Pro !
yeah please do :)
comma space works for me, But folks be aware, if you don't leave a space after the comma it ignores the whole thing
It doesnt ignore it, it just doesnt do what the punctuation does, unless you meant it ignorees the punctuation, which it does lol
@@aitexttoimage I have a feeling not 100% that it ignores the two words before and after it if the comma has no spaces
@@kemikemi756 have you tested it? with 2 words lol
@@kemikemi756 I tested it, doesnt make any differennce wether there is a spce or not after the coma in a 4 word sentence.
@@aitexttoimage Oh ? I must've done something else wrong then
Fascinating stuff! Thanks for sharing!
your welcome :)
Really interesting. :: was new to me. I appreciate you spending credits to show the examples!
My pleasure!
A helpful video for us noobs! Like MacHatter suggests though … play with these things yourself to uncover the differences in use. It would be nice if these types of ghings were covered in a Night Café User Manual. There is one; but, it covers basics.
Thanks, MacHatter.
Your Welcome :)
Going to give it a try. Thanks for sharing.
Your welcome, just shout if you need any help :)
To me it looks like the commas produce a more stable output. But I'm no expert and am just starting to use AI to make artwork. I stumbled upon this a few weeks ago. But thank you for making this video. It explains alot for me. 👍
Glad they helped you out :)
Fancy meeting you here.
fancy :)
Super helpful. Thank you for the walk thru!
Glad it was helpful!