Two months after applying Bilt Hammier Double Speed Wax, I have the van back to see what the water behaviour is like. Instagram / obsessivecardetailer48
Cheers Dave, it's the only way I can do it. I won't chase numbers and not looking to please manufacturers, its just me in my workshop🤷♂️. Like you but not as nice a workspace👍
The key point here is that if you apply any wax and then don’t follow up with a good, regular wash routine then the protection from that initial application will be severely compromised. Claims from manufacturers of wax products would be more accurate if they said ‘up to x months protection - as part of a maintenance program’. Great video as usual.
It was a little harsh as most people I guess after washing a car may well apply either a drying aid or some form of detail spray. I didn't want to do that as I wanted the wax to stand on its own as so many people shout about how good it is, I wonder how many of them add a product after washing??? I know I always apply some form of product as my sacrificial layer after every wash giving the wax or sealant added protection. Stay safe & have a happy & healthy new year
Great video. I'm not a serious detailer, not even a weekend warrior as I don't wash my cars very often. DSW is my only paste wax. I first applied it on freshly polished bodywork after panel wipe, and the nice beading and slick surface feel lasted for about 3 months in the summer. During this 3 month period I just snowfoamed and jetwashed the car, roughly about once every month. After 3 months I started hand washing and topping it up with Sonax BSD but still just monthly and it still is okay. To me it's excellent value, thinking that I'll apply it approximately twice a year, a single tin will last for ages.
Hi Martin, so far got about 3 months from it on my golf, granted used Bilt hamber autowash once a week and appliend Bilt Hamber at 10 to 1 as a drying aid. Yes your right there are other products where its easier to apply and lasts significantly longer, turbo 6 for instance
Hi Phil, good to hear from you. Yep its all about what works for you I guess. I have Turbo 6 and like it but so many products on the market to choose from and we all have our favourites. I think what this has taught me is that its a good wax but needs support from other products like QDs.
I've used other BH products and was pleased with them but not tried this wax..However, I only use a wax for that initial glow and water repellentcy, not longevity. Regular and repeated applications of a wax are part of the pleasure of cleaning my cars. I don't have the time lately to spare for that so I've moved on to ceramics but I do miss the wax theapy. Great honest review.
Hi Adrian, just saying it as I see it. I agree, I also enjoy waxing if you have the time. I have no doubt this would last longer if a QD was used after washing but then you get into the debate on, is it the wax or the QD that is giving you the protection?. Like you I tend to use sealants for longer lasting protection. Thanks for supporting👍
Bodywork shampoo conditioner will affect the water behaviour because it has a rinse aid in it that will make the water sheet rather then bead autoglym make a pure shampoo as well. Btw I never like dsw hard to work with
Hello Martin, I have some of this wax and I find that there are easier products to use, my elbows light up at the sight of paste waxes also by introducing the AG shampoo you have changed the test, perhaps it would have been better to use a microfibre cloth with a hose, that way you are not adding anything to the surface. Cheers
Hi John, Im Martin. To be honest I don't think that made any difference. You can see the difference between the rinse and after a wash. The protection certainly showed up more after the wash. I agree, a lot more easier forms of protection available. I think this would have provided better protection if it had seen regular washes and the use of a detail spray. Interesting though👍
Warning! Very long comment🤣 Great real world test of this product. I've got 3 and a half months out of it but I noticed after that the car was still incredibly glossy and slick yet there was zero water behaviour. I also noticed it didn't exactly 'protect' the car the back of the car is already covered in iron deposits and a small bit of tar. No tree sap but don't ever park near trees. I think alot of people get caught up on the initial water behaviour a week after its installed. I've got to admit. It's incredible but doesn't take long to wear off. Now the question I've got is. How would soft99 fusso compare to this? I don't want to jump on the 'band wagon' but it seems very highly rated. Although I paid £11.24 for the double speed wax so can't really complain and got a applicator and a microfiber cloth. *Car is a 5 cylinder diesel estate so probably picks up more contamination on the rear than anything else. And didn't use any topper after each wash. Which was weekly with autofoam 200ml to 1L and AF lather. No APCs used either. I recently got turtle Wax dry and shine for a fiver so might try that every 3 or 4 washes to see if it makes a difference. The annoying part about the contamination is that I couldn't just wax the car again I had to do a mini decon on it without using a clay bar obviously. Which was annoying considering it was like 5°C. Wax was applied and car sat stationery for 2 days without getting wet in 25°C heat so the wax would've been 'baked' in fairly well aswell👍
Like BH double speed wax, I have heard great things about soft99 fusso but in most cases the people tell me that its a great wax and used with some form of QD on top. So my question is "how do you know it's the wax & not the QD". My suggestion is that with todays driving conditions, the miles we do and contamination picked up, Im not convinced that any wax can last more than 4 to 6 months without some form of sacrificial layer on top like a drying aid or QD. Certainly not with the gloss and water behaviour seen on application. Then look at some of the sealants like the GT products I have on my Wife's Audi & dirt really finds it hard to stick. Finally thank you for taking the time to add a real life comment. I have learnt so much from some of the comments from my subscribers👍
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer yep that's exactly it. I think ceramic coating is the way forward for daily driving but then how much contamination will it reduce as I can't see iron deposits not sticking to it. But yes I find that rather annoying about the sacrificial layer thing with the QD ontop of the wax because when that QD layer fades away does it effect the 'beading' of the wax so it's then flat? Tbh I've never been a fan of putting something ontop of my wax I've always just waxed and rewaxed when necessary but I've recently bought turtle Wax dry and shine and I have to say it's very very impressive bought it for £4.95 on carparts4less but not sure if it'll effect the wax below it. Just did a test spot to see how it effects the wax so can't wait to wash the car next to see.
I get longer, beading for about six months with washing every fortnight and using a sacrificial layer of detail spray each time I wash. I have bought some collinite as it’s easier to buff off and meant to last a whole year!
Tottaly agree with the double speed wax review i dont get why other detailing channels bang on about how great it is(free products most likley) its an avarage cheap wax at best the same goes for detailing onlines cccw which is very similar I was dissapointed with both and would not buy either of them again I just used the wax and ph neuteral shampoo no topping up with qd.s ect And got similar results durability wise double speed wasent a nice wax to work with either and dident look great there are way better waxes avaliable out there for similar price points Surfex hd apc from built hamber is awesome though Nice to have an unbiased truthfull review 👍for a change I hate detailing channels that are obviously swayed by free products
Thanks, I just say it as it is & don't encourage free products. Cant see the point of going on youtube and selling yourself, its just me and what I get up to. thank you for your support👍
Another great honest review Martin, sometimes it just doesn’t work the same as others and you can see in the comments that people are using a QD as a drying aid which will prolong the life of the wax. Personally I wouldn’t buy it from the review you’ve done, there’s better out there for similar money, shame as all other BH products are spot on
The hydrophobics of this wax are amazing ceramic like when it’s freshly applied, it’s really slick too and the gloss is decent. Such a good value and nice applicator. I’ve had it on my car for 3 months now and it’s still definitely there but the intense beading is not quite there and it’s a bit slower to sheet. Still good enough to make the car easier to wash and dry though. Although in the past I have had terrible experience with the product, I applied it to a fully clay barred and Autoglym super resin polished car and a month later I gave it a first wash and it was completely dead
Car detailing is all about what works for you and what puts a smile on your face. Let me know what you are going to replace it with or are you going to reapply
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer I think the key is to keep washing the car every 2 weeks to stop dirt building up. So I’ll probably just reapply in a few weeks. I would like to try colonite 915 though as I’ve heard it’s lovely. Maybe Autoglym UHD too. I love waxes, I don’t really like spray sealants because they don’t give the same shine. A tin of wax will last you practically forever on just your own cars if you use a small amount.
@@fraforgt-350r2 if you like wax then try Soft 99 The Kiwanis I have a video on it after a couple of months and I have just wash a car after 7 and it’s still there. Autoglym HD wax is also a good one
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer cheers mate. I was in a dilemma between fusso coat and double speed wax for a while. I ended up getting double speed because it was cheaper and at the time couldn’t choose between the new formula or old formula of fusso. Apparently the old one lasts much longer but the new one is easier to apply and doesn’t smell. I would love to try fusso as it’s essentially the closest to a ceramic coating in wax form. But I do also want to enjoy applying my waxes every now and then and BILT hamber is fairly easy to use and doesn’t smell too bad
@@fraforgt-350r2 you should give Reflect Car Care ceramic wax a thought. Its on offer on their web site for £10 & you can check it out on a couple of videos I have on it. One on application and one some time later checking on performance
That's definitely down to either incorrect process before applying the wax or in correct wash methods after application apply this to my customers so who want 5/6 months protection and does that easily enough
Hi Jordon, have a look at the video when I applied the wax ( Tree Sap, Bird Poo & Bilt Hamber Double Speed Wax) & let me have your thoughts. One thing to remember though as I said in the video, this has not been washed or had any drying aid or QD added since the wax was applied. What you see is just the wax. Drop a comment in the tree sap & bird poo video if you think I missed something or if you do things differently. Cheers 👍
I had some a year it 2 ago and for £16 it was ok and so cheap you can top up regularly.. the guys clean water system might be stripping the protection off the bodywork as it’s so pure.. you could use a different (known) wax and see if it’s protection falls short..
I never know how long products last as I can never leave a product for months and not top with something! This application to be fair wasn’t particularly well maintained as most would wash regularly with a decent shampoo and probably use some sort of drying aid or the like. Hosing the paintwork down won’t remove all the contaminants which could degrade the protection and may explain the poor results, but what do I know!
I think you have summed it up perfectly Chris. The protection wasn't maintained at all. That was the point of me doing the review really. Most people wax a car then use QDs either as a drying aid or a sacrificial layer. Thats why I struggle to accept some of the claims that some waxes have long lasting protection. A number of comments say they get better results but how many use other products when washing?????
for a , presumably, higher than average mileage than a car, and not having been properly cleaned or maintained, I think 2 months is doing pretty good. I'd probably say that it would last 3-4 months. Is it a winter wax? probably not, but still the perfomance of this for the price is very hard to beat.
Hi Coley, just reporting what I found. At the end of the day its what works for you that's important. I was really disappointed as I wanted this to be my go to wax but hey can't have everything🤷🏻♂️ Stay safe & thanks for commenting👍
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer Don't get me wrong, not everyone is going to like every product, and this is not the "best" on the market. I think its great that you got 2 months out of it. looking back on the application of the wax, was it not hotter than usual temps you applied in? might account for the less than optimal results?
@@peemick Hi, if I remember rightly the temperature was around 20 deg so a warm day but by no means to hot to apply the wax. Have you seen the video where I applied the wax? it's "Tree Sap, Bird Poo & Bilt Hammier Double Speed Wax". Check it out and let me have your thoughts
If that's Autoglym Bodywork Shampoo and Conditioner then it produces some beading on it's own. You really needed to use a pure shampoo with no gloss enhancers or waxes in it. Looking at the rinse down before you washed it, I'd say it's pretty much gone as there was no sign of any protection at all which is surprising for a BH product as they are usually top performers.
Hi John, yep you are correct, didn't realise at the time that the autoglym had a form of mild protection built in. This video sort of makes my point that often when people are saying how long a wax or sealant lasts the chances are they have used a QD as their LSP or drying aid and its that that is giving the water behaviour. so in this video it was just the wax standing on its own & although people have said the van was not properly prepared, I have a previous video that shows the application and I would argue that my preparation is at least as good as anyone who washes and cares for their vehicle. It might not meet some professional standards but Im not professional, just an enthusiast. I hope it was of some use👍
I have used this product but I agree the claims of 6 months protection are a bit overblown from my experience. This has me thinking that, although it is at a reasonable price point, I'd be better with something like Gyeon Wet Coat - much less effort as well!
On my X3 I have Reflect ceramic wax topped by their Si02 detail spray. Not been touched in 3 months and looking out the window this afternoon in the rain, its looking good
Nice one thankyou, I've been sitting on the fence with this wax but your video and what I've heard about it being hard to remove maybe I'll look elsewhere, there's so much choice nowadays. Keep it up 👍
This review is a little harsh Phillip in as much as most people follow a wax application up with some form of topper like a QD. However it does pose the question, how can you say a wax lasts x number of months if it is topped? So thats why I did the review. A lot of people are saying it lasts longer on their car but they use drying aids and QDs. It is at the end of the day, just my opinion 🤷🏻♂️
I have to admit, it did come back but not as much as I expected. It could well mean that I needed to manage my expectations. Also, 1st proper wash in 2 months🤷🏻♂️
Ten years ago when I first tried BH waxes were good VFM and offered 6 weeks protection tops. Compared to a modern synthetic wax it is pretty poor. Hopefully with the BH rebrand, they will look at protection products again.
I hope so as well Patrick but remember, I didn't top the wax with anything like a drying aid or QD. But if I did then what would be giving you the protection? The wax or the topper???
I've been double speed wax a go just on the bonnet and I've not got much durability. Think I will just use it in the warmer months as a show wax. For the money I'm not to fussed. I like Thier other products. For the winter turtle Wax sealnt wax spray will be my go to. Cheap, durable as so easy to use
Hi Scott, don't give up on it. Give it a wash and use something like Bouncers DDSi or Garage Therapy Sigma or another QD of your choice. That way you might get more from the product now you have bought it. I suggest most p[people who shout about how good this is may well use another product after every wash that gives them the impression that the wax is lasting longer than it actually does
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer Hi mate thank you for the reply. I shall give it another bash when it's warmer. I'm not fussed staying outside any longer than I need to at the moment. So it will be a nice safe wash followed by a spray wax before I freeze. Happy New year
@@GALTONATOR I will be doing a video on winter washing in the next week where I use a spray on rinse off sealant. What I like about these products is they are quick and because the sealant is rinsed off it gets into every knock & cranny. It will be no problem going onto wax so no issues and quicker that buffing wax. If you have one give it a try other wise check the video out when I upload it to give you an idea of how to get the best out of these types of products. In the mean time stay warm & more importantly safe👍 Happy new year Scott
Hi Steve, If you are looking for a protection to use this winter then the two I have been using on my X3 & my Wife's Audi have performed extremely well. I have used GT 3 & Sigma on the Audi & Reflect Ceramic wax & their Si02 QD on the X3. I have been really impressed with both
Hi Gavin, maybe you keep the car cleaner or clean it regularly or use a QD. By keeping the car clean will help to maintain protection. Don't forget this quick trial was just the wax with no sacrificial layer like I would normally do. What do you do, what's your cleaning regime, what other products do you use ? Maybe we can work out the best way to use it? Let me know
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer Hi I just bilt Hamber snow foam and 2 bucket wash didnt clay it - i remember the day i did was overcast warm and i took my time waxed one panel at the time - after that after care wise i just pressure hosed it - didnt get to wash it properly as was ill
@@gavinking4075 Hi Gavin, thanks for getting back to me & hope you are feeling better now. I would suggest the snow foam & shampoo will help to keep the wax in good condition and keep it clear from getting clogged up with road grim. I will at some point re apply the wax on another vehicle and give it regular washes to see if I can get more out of it. Have you seen my latest video on soft 99 after 6 weeks? maybe if I had used Zero to deep clean the car the BH wax may have come back to life.🤷♂️
The autoglym bodywork shampoo contains wax that's maybe why it came up a little bit better after washing, another good honest down-to-earth review. When will you be reviewing the new garage Therapy Iron Oxide.
I don’t think any wax lasts as long as the makers claim. If the guy washed the car properly each week with a a decent shampoo like bilt hamber auto wash you build up on that wax each time you wash it.
In most cases Stephen from my experience most people who say a particular was lasts x amount of time is because they use either a drying aid or QD at each wash so they actually have no idea how long the wax actually lasts. In this video the wax sat without any other form of protection so Im happy that the result I saw was reality. The one wax that I have used that really does do what it says on the tin is Soft99
Excellent points you two. I got 6 months out of Double Speed Wax and still going super strong. But that included monthly washes with touch-on (which has stuff in it) and after 4 months I did a full turtle wax something something spray. I fully expect yesterday's reapplication to go another 6 months with regular washes and BH QD, touch-on etc etc. Who the F knows what's making the beading at this point?????
Hi Cameron, I was a little disappointed because so many people reported that it was so good. I just say it as I find it but not everyone does the same. Hope you are keeping well.
Obsessive Car Detailer well Martin we all love your honesty mate doing as good as can be thanks btw I don’t know if you follow them or not but Autobrite direct have a huge sale on just now if your interested brother keep up the great content mate
If you are going to clay bar your car I suggest you then use either a machine polish or hand polish any marks out. After then cleaning the panels with a panel wipe (I often use Carpro Eraser) you can then apply any protection of your choice. If you intend to use this wax then after my experience in its longevity I suggest you apply some form of detail spray after every wash. Hope that is of some help
Good review, I'm getting longer than 2 months so far ,I used bh cleanser polish then dsw. I found the wax a bit hard to buff off but I think I put to much on. I found infinity turbo 6 really easy to use how long does that last martin?
Hi thanks for taking the time to comment. This review was a little harsh in as much as no drying aid or QD was used in the 2 month period and most people will probably use some form of protection after washing their car but I just wanted to see how it stood on its own so if you use either a QD or drying aid I would expect it to improve the time. However you need to ask, is the protection Im seeing, the wax or what I apply after a wash? I would appreciate you view. As for Turbo 6, I really like it but it does seem a little unstable on the shelf?. I think Infinity wax suggest a 6 month protection period but that would be on a well prepared surface. Have you experience using it?
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer I've been using infinity qd after every 3 washes but I'm going to get some bh qd when that runs out .not sure how long I got out of turbo 6 but it did turn runny when left in the shed in hot weather. I think I'll apply some dsw again, thinly this time in a few weeks.Anyway look forward to the next vid.
Hi Mr L , I did reply but seems it disappeared🤷🏻♂️. So yes all of the above, if you check out the video Tree sap, bird poo & BH double speed wax you will see how I prepared the car
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer ok dude. Take care 👍🏻 i have had 9+ month from dsw. I read the water in different areas can effect lsp's on top of the usual things that attack a lsp
Hi Andy, yes it was Autoglym conditioner that I used. I was really disappointed in the result. It went against everything I had been told. Have a good Christmas pal👍
If you are looking for longevity and don't want to go as far as a ceramic coating then I would use a sealant. The one that impressed me is Garage Therapy 3cs. But what ever you use I would use either a qd drying aid after every wash or use either Bouncer's DDSi or Garage Therapy Sigma after every third wash. Let me know what you do and how it works out. But most waxes standing alone without any form of sacrificial layers of protection are limited in their longevity
I use Harly Wax.. its nearly finished.. gives good gloss/shine.. lasts about 2 months without top ups in winter and daily driving use.. can you recommend me a product
Hi if you are looking for a wax at a reasonable price then you could try the soft99 the kiwami wax that I featured a couple of weeks ago or if you are looking for a sealant then give Garage Therapy 3 CS a try. If you want to add quick protection then either Garage Therapy Sigma or Bouncers Done & Dusted Si Edition. Both are really good detailing sprays that will give you between 4 & 6 weeks protection. It all depends really on if you want to do a full decon and apply a base protection or if you just want to wash the car and top up on every wash. Failing that there are a number or spray on rinse off sealants that are quick and easy to apply. Let me know the type of detail you want to do on the car and if you prefer wax or sealant
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer i have been pretty lazy this year tbh.. i clayed and waxed my one car.. clayed and used gyeon wet coat on the other.. going forward i want to clay again.. seal with a good wax.. then top every few weeks with something on top
@@foxsake_ In that case as a suggestion, why not use the Kiwami as your base layer of protection, I have only used it once but check out my video where I give a six week review of the wax. I would then follow up with Garage Therapy Sigma on every 3rd wash & use Garage Therapy 2 Quick detailer as a drying aid at every wash. The alternative to that would be Reflect ceramic wax as your base layer followed with Reflect Si02 Quick detail spray at every wash. I have the GT products on my Wife's Audi & the Reflect on my X3. I am really pleased with both. For more info on all the products check out my videos where I apply and report back on performance of them both. Please let me know what you go with even if its different and let me know how they perform over the winter months. Stay safe👍
It’s ok Anthony but doesn’t do what it says on the tin and that’s my issue. Loads of people tell me it lasts for months but when you ask if they have added anything they say “ only a QD” 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer right, I use other bilt hamber products,and I have just used GT deco and IAM very impressed,thank you for that one much appreciated,keep on educating us,have a good weekend and I will see you in the next one☕🍰
Better be careful Martin, the BH fan club will be after you! 😂 If that was the result after 2 months that's not good enough (especially for the weather we've had). I wonder how long it would have beaded up for. A month?
I know, I thought at the time that it might be a little risky if it didn't go as I expected but no good giving out Bull S... I have to say it as I see it. Im a little surprised I only have 1 thumbs down to date. Agree with you. When I look at the beading on my X3 after 3 months without touching it (and that is killing me), no comparison .
No trick photography Eduardo, I was surprised and disappointed as I had heard such good things about it. But I just say it as it is, I don't pander to suppliers
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer this wax is the favorite of youtuber the forensic detailer, thank goodness I didn't buy it, I was thinking about buying it, thanks friend! I really feel sorry for the disappointment :(
I personally have found double speed wax a great product.Yes it’s laborious to apply,but if you start with freshly decontaminated paintwork then apply a layer of polish and finally the wax, the results for me were very impressive,but maintaining the wax using a quality quick detailer is important. The only thing is now I use Garage Therapy products,the results are in my opinion better and are achieved with less effort,so unfortunately paste waxes have been relegated to my ever increasing “not go to products” box.
As always Mr G I wait your wise words & how can you argue against them. As I replied to Patrick above. When people say a wax lasted x number of months, is it the wax or the topper they have applied on top. Thats why I wanted to do this review. It was just wax with nothing on top. Was I a little harsh 🤷🏻♂️.
Obsessive Car Detailer I don’t think you was harsh at all,but a wax alone with no maintenance has no chance of longevity.I have always understood that polish cleans the paintwork and wax protects it,but like all products they have a limited life against the elements.So the protection that a wax will give to paintwork depends on so many factors and no similar tests will give the same results. Ceramic coatings have limited protective life,it’s all about maintenance.In an ideal world there would be a product that coats the car and never diminishes,but that would put a lot of companies out of business,just like a cure for the common cold!.
Absolutely spot on! Couldn't care less about the product, but... a review that tells it exactly how it is, is how it should be done!
*Well done*
Cheers Dave, it's the only way I can do it. I won't chase numbers and not looking to please manufacturers, its just me in my workshop🤷♂️. Like you but not as nice a workspace👍
The key point here is that if you apply any wax and then don’t follow up with a good, regular wash routine then the protection from that initial application will be severely compromised. Claims from manufacturers of wax products would be more accurate if they said ‘up to x months protection - as part of a maintenance program’. Great video as usual.
It was a little harsh as most people I guess after washing a car may well apply either a drying aid or some form of detail spray. I didn't want to do that as I wanted the wax to stand on its own as so many people shout about how good it is, I wonder how many of them add a product after washing??? I know I always apply some form of product as my sacrificial layer after every wash giving the wax or sealant added protection. Stay safe & have a happy & healthy new year
Great video. I'm not a serious detailer, not even a weekend warrior as I don't wash my cars very often. DSW is my only paste wax. I first applied it on freshly polished bodywork after panel wipe, and the nice beading and slick surface feel lasted for about 3 months in the summer. During this 3 month period I just snowfoamed and jetwashed the car, roughly about once every month. After 3 months I started hand washing and topping it up with Sonax BSD but still just monthly and it still is okay. To me it's excellent value, thinking that I'll apply it approximately twice a year, a single tin will last for ages.
its what works for you that's the important bit👍 BSD is a great topper👍 A few more view on my channel and we will get you serious about detailing🤣
Hi Martin, so far got about 3 months from it on my golf, granted used Bilt hamber autowash once a week and appliend Bilt Hamber at 10 to 1 as a drying aid. Yes your right there are other products where its easier to apply and lasts significantly longer, turbo 6 for instance
Hi Phil, good to hear from you. Yep its all about what works for you I guess. I have Turbo 6 and like it but so many products on the market to choose from and we all have our favourites. I think what this has taught me is that its a good wax but needs support from other products like QDs.
I've used other BH products and was pleased with them but not tried this wax..However, I only use a wax for that initial glow and water repellentcy, not longevity. Regular and repeated applications of a wax are part of the pleasure of cleaning my cars. I don't have the time lately to spare for that so I've moved on to ceramics but I do miss the wax theapy. Great honest review.
Hi Adrian, just saying it as I see it. I agree, I also enjoy waxing if you have the time. I have no doubt this would last longer if a QD was used after washing but then you get into the debate on, is it the wax or the QD that is giving you the protection?. Like you I tend to use sealants for longer lasting protection. Thanks for supporting👍
Bodywork shampoo conditioner will affect the water behaviour because it has a rinse aid in it that will make the water sheet rather then bead autoglym make a pure shampoo as well. Btw I never like dsw hard to work with
A fair and honest review Martin. Nice one 👍
Cheers, Im waiting for the BH back lash 🤷♂️
Hello Martin, I have some of this wax and I find that there are easier products to use, my elbows light up at the sight of paste waxes also by introducing the AG shampoo you have changed the test, perhaps it would have been better to use a microfibre cloth with a hose, that way you are not adding anything to the surface. Cheers
Hi John, Im Martin. To be honest I don't think that made any difference. You can see the difference between the rinse and after a wash. The protection certainly showed up more after the wash. I agree, a lot more easier forms of protection available. I think this would have provided better protection if it had seen regular washes and the use of a detail spray. Interesting though👍
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer Apologies Martin, this is what happens when you are old. Cheers
@@johngatland No problem, it made me smile. Im not good at names🤣
Warning! Very long comment🤣
Great real world test of this product. I've got 3 and a half months out of it but I noticed after that the car was still incredibly glossy and slick yet there was zero water behaviour. I also noticed it didn't exactly 'protect' the car the back of the car is already covered in iron deposits and a small bit of tar. No tree sap but don't ever park near trees. I think alot of people get caught up on the initial water behaviour a week after its installed. I've got to admit. It's incredible but doesn't take long to wear off. Now the question I've got is. How would soft99 fusso compare to this? I don't want to jump on the 'band wagon' but it seems very highly rated. Although I paid £11.24 for the double speed wax so can't really complain and got a applicator and a microfiber cloth. *Car is a 5 cylinder diesel estate so probably picks up more contamination on the rear than anything else. And didn't use any topper after each wash. Which was weekly with autofoam 200ml to 1L and AF lather. No APCs used either. I recently got turtle Wax dry and shine for a fiver so might try that every 3 or 4 washes to see if it makes a difference. The annoying part about the contamination is that I couldn't just wax the car again I had to do a mini decon on it without using a clay bar obviously. Which was annoying considering it was like 5°C. Wax was applied and car sat stationery for 2 days without getting wet in 25°C heat so the wax would've been 'baked' in fairly well aswell👍
Like BH double speed wax, I have heard great things about soft99 fusso but in most cases the people tell me that its a great wax and used with some form of QD on top. So my question is "how do you know it's the wax & not the QD". My suggestion is that with todays driving conditions, the miles we do and contamination picked up, Im not convinced that any wax can last more than 4 to 6 months without some form of sacrificial layer on top like a drying aid or QD. Certainly not with the gloss and water behaviour seen on application. Then look at some of the sealants like the GT products I have on my Wife's Audi & dirt really finds it hard to stick. Finally thank you for taking the time to add a real life comment. I have learnt so much from some of the comments from my subscribers👍
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer yep that's exactly it. I think ceramic coating is the way forward for daily driving but then how much contamination will it reduce as I can't see iron deposits not sticking to it. But yes I find that rather annoying about the sacrificial layer thing with the QD ontop of the wax because when that QD layer fades away does it effect the 'beading' of the wax so it's then flat? Tbh I've never been a fan of putting something ontop of my wax I've always just waxed and rewaxed when necessary but I've recently bought turtle Wax dry and shine and I have to say it's very very impressive bought it for £4.95 on carparts4less but not sure if it'll effect the wax below it. Just did a test spot to see how it effects the wax so can't wait to wash the car next to see.
I get longer, beading for about six months with washing every fortnight and using a sacrificial layer of detail spray each time I wash. I have bought some collinite as it’s easier to buff off and meant to last a whole year!
I think that's to trick, using a sacrificial layer. I do that on my two cars and its well worth it although Im not using BH on either car
Tottaly agree with the double speed wax review i dont get why other detailing channels bang on about how great it is(free products most likley)
its an avarage cheap wax at best the same goes for detailing onlines cccw which is very similar
I was dissapointed with both and would not buy either of them again
I just used the wax and ph neuteral shampoo no topping up with qd.s ect
And got similar results durability wise double speed wasent a nice wax to work with either and dident look great
there are way better waxes avaliable out there for similar price points
Surfex hd apc from built hamber is awesome though
Nice to have an unbiased truthfull review 👍for a change
I hate detailing channels that are obviously swayed by free products
Thanks, I just say it as it is & don't encourage free products. Cant see the point of going on youtube and selling yourself, its just me and what I get up to. thank you for your support👍
Another great honest review Martin, sometimes it just doesn’t work the same as others and you can see in the comments that people are using a QD as a drying aid which will prolong the life of the wax.
Personally I wouldn’t buy it from the review you’ve done, there’s better out there for similar money, shame as all other BH products are spot on
As soon as I saw the flat water at the beginning, I knew I would get lots of people saying it works for them but I have to say what I see 🤷♂️
Obsessive Car Detailer absolutely Martin, it’s just become hydrophilic and good at sheeting, beads only mess up a nice finish anyway 🤣
The hydrophobics of this wax are amazing ceramic like when it’s freshly applied, it’s really slick too and the gloss is decent. Such a good value and nice applicator. I’ve had it on my car for 3 months now and it’s still definitely there but the intense beading is not quite there and it’s a bit slower to sheet. Still good enough to make the car easier to wash and dry though. Although in the past I have had terrible experience with the product, I applied it to a fully clay barred and Autoglym super resin polished car and a month later I gave it a first wash and it was completely dead
Car detailing is all about what works for you and what puts a smile on your face. Let me know what you are going to replace it with or are you going to reapply
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer I think the key is to keep washing the car every 2 weeks to stop dirt building up. So I’ll probably just reapply in a few weeks. I would like to try colonite 915 though as I’ve heard it’s lovely. Maybe Autoglym UHD too. I love waxes, I don’t really like spray sealants because they don’t give the same shine. A tin of wax will last you practically forever on just your own cars if you use a small amount.
@@fraforgt-350r2 if you like wax then try Soft 99 The Kiwanis I have a video on it after a couple of months and I have just wash a car after 7 and it’s still there. Autoglym HD wax is also a good one
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer cheers mate. I was in a dilemma between fusso coat and double speed wax for a while. I ended up getting double speed because it was cheaper and at the time couldn’t choose between the new formula or old formula of fusso. Apparently the old one lasts much longer but the new one is easier to apply and doesn’t smell. I would love to try fusso as it’s essentially the closest to a ceramic coating in wax form. But I do also want to enjoy applying my waxes every now and then and BILT hamber is fairly easy to use and doesn’t smell too bad
@@fraforgt-350r2 you should give Reflect Car Care ceramic wax a thought. Its on offer on their web site for £10 & you can check it out on a couple of videos I have on it. One on application and one some time later checking on performance
That's definitely down to either incorrect process before applying the wax or in correct wash methods after application apply this to my customers so who want 5/6 months protection and does that easily enough
Hi Jordon, have a look at the video when I applied the wax ( Tree Sap, Bird Poo & Bilt Hamber Double Speed Wax) & let me have your thoughts. One thing to remember though as I said in the video, this has not been washed or had any drying aid or QD added since the wax was applied. What you see is just the wax. Drop a comment in the tree sap & bird poo video if you think I missed something or if you do things differently. Cheers 👍
I had some a year it 2 ago and for £16 it was ok and so cheap you can top up regularly.. the guys clean water system might be stripping the protection off the bodywork as it’s so pure.. you could use a different (known) wax and see if it’s protection falls short..
I never know how long products last as I can never leave a product for months and not top with something! This application to be fair wasn’t particularly well maintained as most would wash regularly with a decent shampoo and probably use some sort of drying aid or the like. Hosing the paintwork down won’t remove all the contaminants which could degrade the protection and may explain the poor results, but what do I know!
I think you have summed it up perfectly Chris. The protection wasn't maintained at all. That was the point of me doing the review really. Most people wax a car then use QDs either as a drying aid or a sacrificial layer. Thats why I struggle to accept some of the claims that some waxes have long lasting protection. A number of comments say they get better results but how many use other products when washing?????
for a , presumably, higher than average mileage than a car, and not having been properly cleaned or maintained, I think 2 months is doing pretty good.
I'd probably say that it would last 3-4 months. Is it a winter wax? probably not, but still the perfomance of this for the price is very hard to beat.
Hi Coley, just reporting what I found. At the end of the day its what works for you that's important. I was really disappointed as I wanted this to be my go to wax but hey can't have everything🤷🏻♂️ Stay safe & thanks for commenting👍
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer Don't get me wrong, not everyone is going to like every product, and this is not the "best" on the market. I think its great that you got 2 months out of it. looking back on the application of the wax, was it not hotter than usual temps you applied in? might account for the less than optimal results?
@@peemick Hi, if I remember rightly the temperature was around 20 deg so a warm day but by no means to hot to apply the wax. Have you seen the video where I applied the wax? it's "Tree Sap, Bird Poo & Bilt Hammier Double Speed Wax". Check it out and let me have your thoughts
If that's Autoglym Bodywork Shampoo and Conditioner then it produces some beading on it's own. You really needed to use a pure shampoo with no gloss enhancers or waxes in it. Looking at the rinse down before you washed it, I'd say it's pretty much gone as there was no sign of any protection at all which is surprising for a BH product as they are usually top performers.
Hi John, yep you are correct, didn't realise at the time that the autoglym had a form of mild protection built in. This video sort of makes my point that often when people are saying how long a wax or sealant lasts the chances are they have used a QD as their LSP or drying aid and its that that is giving the water behaviour. so in this video it was just the wax standing on its own & although people have said the van was not properly prepared, I have a previous video that shows the application and I would argue that my preparation is at least as good as anyone who washes and cares for their vehicle. It might not meet some professional standards but Im not professional, just an enthusiast. I hope it was of some use👍
I have used this product but I agree the claims of 6 months protection are a bit overblown from my experience. This has me thinking that, although it is at a reasonable price point, I'd be better with something like Gyeon Wet Coat - much less effort as well!
On my X3 I have Reflect ceramic wax topped by their Si02 detail spray. Not been touched in 3 months and looking out the window this afternoon in the rain, its looking good
Nice one thankyou, I've been sitting on the fence with this wax but your video and what I've heard about it being hard to remove maybe I'll look elsewhere, there's so much choice nowadays.
Keep it up 👍
This review is a little harsh Phillip in as much as most people follow a wax application up with some form of topper like a QD. However it does pose the question, how can you say a wax lasts x number of months if it is topped? So thats why I did the review. A lot of people are saying it lasts longer on their car but they use drying aids and QDs. It is at the end of the day, just my opinion 🤷🏻♂️
I'm getting 3 months + from Double Speed. It can need to have a wash to bring it back. Bill Hamber Autowash, or CarPro Reset are good soaps to use.
I have to admit, it did come back but not as much as I expected. It could well mean that I needed to manage my expectations. Also, 1st proper wash in 2 months🤷🏻♂️
Ten years ago when I first tried BH waxes were good VFM and offered 6 weeks protection tops. Compared to a modern synthetic wax it is pretty poor. Hopefully with the BH rebrand, they will look at protection products again.
I hope so as well Patrick but remember, I didn't top the wax with anything like a drying aid or QD. But if I did then what would be giving you the protection? The wax or the topper???
I've been double speed wax a go just on the bonnet and I've not got much durability. Think I will just use it in the warmer months as a show wax. For the money I'm not to fussed. I like Thier other products. For the winter turtle Wax sealnt wax spray will be my go to. Cheap, durable as so easy to use
Hi Scott, don't give up on it. Give it a wash and use something like Bouncers DDSi or Garage Therapy Sigma or another QD of your choice. That way you might get more from the product now you have bought it. I suggest most p[people who shout about how good this is may well use another product after every wash that gives them the impression that the wax is lasting longer than it actually does
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer Hi mate thank you for the reply. I shall give it another bash when it's warmer. I'm not fussed staying outside any longer than I need to at the moment. So it will be a nice safe wash followed by a spray wax before I freeze. Happy New year
@@GALTONATOR I will be doing a video on winter washing in the next week where I use a spray on rinse off sealant. What I like about these products is they are quick and because the sealant is rinsed off it gets into every knock & cranny. It will be no problem going onto wax so no issues and quicker that buffing wax. If you have one give it a try other wise check the video out when I upload it to give you an idea of how to get the best out of these types of products. In the mean time stay warm & more importantly safe👍 Happy new year Scott
How to fall out with forensic detailing.
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I know, the only thing in my favour is I don't think Jon watches my channel so think Im safe 🤞🤞🤣
You better hope he doesn't. Not giving bilt hamber high score. Your off his Christmas card list.
@@paulrollings2791 me and my big mouth🤣
Hi Martin,I was disappointed myself to this product,I was thinking of getting this myself soon and seeing this video changed my mind.
Hi Steve, If you are looking for a protection to use this winter then the two I have been using on my X3 & my Wife's Audi have performed extremely well. I have used GT 3 & Sigma on the Audi & Reflect Ceramic wax & their Si02 QD on the X3. I have been really impressed with both
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer thanks Martin I will look into it.
Great review i use the wax on my car and it has given nice Beeding for about 5.6 months wonder why we are getting such different results ?
Hi Gavin, maybe you keep the car cleaner or clean it regularly or use a QD. By keeping the car clean will help to maintain protection. Don't forget this quick trial was just the wax with no sacrificial layer like I would normally do. What do you do, what's your cleaning regime, what other products do you use ? Maybe we can work out the best way to use it? Let me know
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer Hi I just bilt Hamber snow foam and 2 bucket wash didnt clay it - i remember the day i did was overcast warm and i took my time waxed one panel at the time - after that after care wise i just pressure hosed it - didnt get to wash it properly as was ill
@@gavinking4075 Hi Gavin, thanks for getting back to me & hope you are feeling better now. I would suggest the snow foam & shampoo will help to keep the wax in good condition and keep it clear from getting clogged up with road grim. I will at some point re apply the wax on another vehicle and give it regular washes to see if I can get more out of it. Have you seen my latest video on soft 99 after 6 weeks? maybe if I had used Zero to deep clean the car the BH wax may have come back to life.🤷♂️
I use a cleanser first before applying dsw then weekly wash with a gloss enhancer shampoo. Get 4 months beading no problem in wet scotland....
The autoglym bodywork shampoo contains wax that's maybe why it came up a little bit better after washing, another good honest down-to-earth review. When will you be reviewing the new garage Therapy Iron Oxide.
Thanks Jamie, you may well be right with the AG. GT Oxide is on its way along with 5lts of GT2 but don't tell the Wife😉
I don’t think any wax lasts as long as the makers claim. If the guy washed the car properly each week with a a decent shampoo like bilt hamber auto wash you build up on that wax each time you wash it.
In most cases Stephen from my experience most people who say a particular was lasts x amount of time is because they use either a drying aid or QD at each wash so they actually have no idea how long the wax actually lasts. In this video the wax sat without any other form of protection so Im happy that the result I saw was reality. The one wax that I have used that really does do what it says on the tin is Soft99
Excellent points you two. I got 6 months out of Double Speed Wax and still going super strong. But that included monthly washes with touch-on (which has stuff in it) and after 4 months I did a full turtle wax something something spray.
I fully expect yesterday's reapplication to go another 6 months with regular washes and BH QD, touch-on etc etc.
Who the F knows what's making the beading at this point?????
Good review here I’ve seen a few guys recommend this but it’s plain to see that’s nearly dead after 2 months
Hi Cameron, I was a little disappointed because so many people reported that it was so good. I just say it as I find it but not everyone does the same. Hope you are keeping well.
Obsessive Car Detailer well Martin we all love your honesty mate doing as good as can be thanks btw I don’t know if you follow them or not but Autobrite direct have a huge sale on just now if your interested brother keep up the great content mate
Can i apply this after a compound and clay bar and how long will it preserve the compound?
If you are going to clay bar your car I suggest you then use either a machine polish or hand polish any marks out. After then cleaning the panels with a panel wipe (I often use Carpro Eraser) you can then apply any protection of your choice. If you intend to use this wax then after my experience in its longevity I suggest you apply some form of detail spray after every wash. Hope that is of some help
Good review, I'm getting longer than 2 months so far ,I used bh cleanser polish then dsw. I found the wax a bit hard to buff off but I think I put to much on. I found infinity turbo 6 really easy to use how long does that last martin?
Hi thanks for taking the time to comment. This review was a little harsh in as much as no drying aid or QD was used in the 2 month period and most people will probably use some form of protection after washing their car but I just wanted to see how it stood on its own so if you use either a QD or drying aid I would expect it to improve the time. However you need to ask, is the protection Im seeing, the wax or what I apply after a wash? I would appreciate you view. As for Turbo 6, I really like it but it does seem a little unstable on the shelf?. I think Infinity wax suggest a 6 month protection period but that would be on a well prepared surface. Have you experience using it?
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer I've been using infinity qd after every 3 washes but I'm going to get some bh qd when that runs out .not sure how long I got out of turbo 6 but it did turn runny when left in the shed in hot weather. I think I'll apply some dsw again, thinly this time in a few weeks.Anyway look forward to the next vid.
@@col72 Thanks for your support. Not used any BH QD so will be interested to get your view on it👍
Did u fully prep the panel? Wash, clay, iron, glue, polish, panel wipe etc?
Should get 6+months from this 🦁
Hi Mr L , I did reply but seems it disappeared🤷🏻♂️. So yes all of the above, if you check out the video Tree sap, bird poo & BH double speed wax you will see how I prepared the car
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer ok dude. Take care 👍🏻 i have had 9+ month from dsw. I read the water in different areas can effect lsp's on top of the usual things that attack a lsp
@@mrlionrocks I guess if you use a drying aid or Qd then that would tie up👍
Wich Autoglym shampoo have you used? If you used the 'bodywork conditioner', this will give some "protection" wich would mean that BH is done anyways.
Hi Andy, yes it was Autoglym conditioner that I used. I was really disappointed in the result. It went against everything I had been told. Have a good Christmas pal👍
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer Thanks! Have a nice Christmas too, and a healthy new year.
Great review. What would you recommend for longevity
If you are looking for longevity and don't want to go as far as a ceramic coating then I would use a sealant. The one that impressed me is Garage Therapy 3cs. But what ever you use I would use either a qd drying aid after every wash or use either Bouncer's DDSi or Garage Therapy Sigma after every third wash. Let me know what you do and how it works out. But most waxes standing alone without any form of sacrificial layers of protection are limited in their longevity
I use Harly Wax.. its nearly finished.. gives good gloss/shine.. lasts about 2 months without top ups in winter and daily driving use.. can you recommend me a product
Hi if you are looking for a wax at a reasonable price then you could try the soft99 the kiwami wax that I featured a couple of weeks ago or if you are looking for a sealant then give Garage Therapy 3 CS a try. If you want to add quick protection then either Garage Therapy Sigma or Bouncers Done & Dusted Si Edition. Both are really good detailing sprays that will give you between 4 & 6 weeks protection. It all depends really on if you want to do a full decon and apply a base protection or if you just want to wash the car and top up on every wash. Failing that there are a number or spray on rinse off sealants that are quick and easy to apply. Let me know the type of detail you want to do on the car and if you prefer wax or sealant
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer i have been pretty lazy this year tbh.. i clayed and waxed my one car.. clayed and used gyeon wet coat on the other.. going forward i want to clay again.. seal with a good wax.. then top every few weeks with something on top
@@foxsake_ In that case as a suggestion, why not use the Kiwami as your base layer of protection, I have only used it once but check out my video where I give a six week review of the wax. I would then follow up with Garage Therapy Sigma on every 3rd wash & use Garage Therapy 2 Quick detailer as a drying aid at every wash. The alternative to that would be Reflect ceramic wax as your base layer followed with Reflect Si02 Quick detail spray at every wash. I have the GT products on my Wife's Audi & the Reflect on my X3. I am really pleased with both. For more info on all the products check out my videos where I apply and report back on performance of them both. Please let me know what you go with even if its different and let me know how they perform over the winter months. Stay safe👍
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer top man 👍
As my neighbour said - "its no good just looking at it ; you have to shampoo it"
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No second chance with this one Martin?
It’s ok Anthony but doesn’t do what it says on the tin and that’s my issue. Loads of people tell me it lasts for months but when you ask if they have added anything they say “ only a QD” 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer right, I use other bilt hamber products,and I have just used GT deco and IAM very impressed,thank you for that one much appreciated,keep on educating us,have a good weekend and I will see you in the next one☕🍰
@@anthonyworthington6495 not sure I’m doing much educating Anthony but always happy for you to pop into my workshop to see what I’m getting up to👍👍
Hi Martin I have been using the bilt hamber double wax and there qd fined it ok for the money
Hi Martin, I would think a QD would make all the difference. Its just my expectations were a little higher🤷♂️
Better be careful Martin, the BH fan club will be after you! 😂
If that was the result after 2 months that's not good enough (especially for the weather we've had). I wonder how long it would have beaded up for. A month?
I know, I thought at the time that it might be a little risky if it didn't go as I expected but no good giving out Bull S... I have to say it as I see it. Im a little surprised I only have 1 thumbs down to date. Agree with you. When I look at the beading on my X3 after 3 months without touching it (and that is killing me), no comparison .
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer There's time for them to sniff you out. Winter is coming! ⛄️
@@GeeWhizRS 🤣🤣🤣
I get 6 months plus still beading.
Hi, do you use a drying aid or QD?
seriously ? a wax so expensive and in 2 months has no protection whatsoever ?!
No trick photography Eduardo, I was surprised and disappointed as I had heard such good things about it. But I just say it as it is, I don't pander to suppliers
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer this wax is the favorite of youtuber the forensic detailer, thank goodness I didn't buy it, I was thinking about buying it, thanks friend!
I really feel sorry for the disappointment :(
@@eduardofolha8415 Have a look through any of my videos and any questions, just drop me a comment and I will always get back to you👍
It seems like I have just wasted £15, ah well! (Does a sigh.)
It’s not high on my list of waxes but if you apply a qd after every wash it’s ok but then is it the qd or the wax that lasts
Live & Learn. I'm a big fan of the spray on waxes/ceramic stuff real easy & actual results in no time as a newbie. Look forward to more vids mate!
@@sinanemati88 thanks
Ps can I have the rest of the tub hehe
if you don't ask you don't get🤣🤣. I want to try it again on a car that is better maintained but for interest where are you based?
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer im Essex but can travel hehe
@@ObsessiveCarDetailer thats what the wife says to me and im still waiting for it :)
@@gavinking4075 🤣👍
@@gavinking4075 🤣🤣
I personally have found double speed wax a great product.Yes it’s laborious to apply,but if you start with freshly decontaminated paintwork then apply a layer of polish and finally the wax, the results for me were very impressive,but maintaining the wax using a quality quick detailer is important.
The only thing is now I use Garage Therapy products,the results are in my opinion better and are achieved with less effort,so unfortunately paste waxes have been relegated to my ever increasing “not go to products” box.
As always Mr G I wait your wise words & how can you argue against them. As I replied to Patrick above. When people say a wax lasted x number of months, is it the wax or the topper they have applied on top. Thats why I wanted to do this review. It was just wax with nothing on top. Was I a little harsh 🤷🏻♂️.
Obsessive Car Detailer I don’t think you was harsh at all,but a wax alone with no maintenance has no chance of longevity.I have always understood that polish cleans the paintwork and wax protects it,but like all products they have a limited life against the elements.So the protection that a wax will give to paintwork depends on so many factors and no similar tests will give the same results.
Ceramic coatings have limited protective life,it’s all about maintenance.In an ideal world there would be a product that coats the car and never diminishes,but that would put a lot of companies out of business,just like a cure for the common cold!.
@@mrgoodkat3722 spot on Mr G as always👍
Obsessive Car Detailer Just my opinion,for what it’s worth!👍🏼