The one voice of reason and very brave analyst, the truth is evident explained very clearly for those who approach dealing with South Africa's challenges with an open mind.
Mr Mbeki you're the real man, you stand for the truth..I adore nd Respect you my True Political Analyst 👏, i wish ngabe all the Politicians listened to you..Stop being arrogant
Are you referring to this interview, if he is telling the truth ,let us analysis him and see if he is telling the truth. 1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people ,rural. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people. so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. The fact that he does not know how to use the land that does not mean there all black people does not know how to use the land. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land. He is speaking to maintain the legacy of Apartheid. no wanda white people in the comments like him
@josephmkhondo125 Your obsession to divide humanity is the fundamental problem from the start of humanity on this planet. Until you appreciate that there is only ONE race, the human race, you will forever miss the point. All the evil that have befallen man is based on this division. If humanity is to overcome this destructive tendency, it must awaken to its oneness and gives equal opportunity to every single individual. Whatever an individual makes out of life is entirely up to him.
@@josephmkhondo125 I understand your point that not all Black people are incapable of farming. However, political parties aren't telling the masses that should they win the election, they will only give the land to certain people or larger pieces of land to those individuals who can engage in commercial farming immediately and successfully to sustain the population to avoid a food crisis in South Africa. These parties are making people believe that everyone will get land equally and without consequence because it meets those parties' ends - to be elected to have money and power. Also, practically, if we hand out property to 54-60 million people in 2024, and the population grows to 65 million people by 2030, what happens to those extra 5 million people? Where is their land? Then in 2035 there are more people who want land and more people want land in 2040, at what point is the cut-off to say okay this land makes up for the past? How are we're going to say to a Black person who is 18 years old in 2045, although we gave other Black people land, we're not going to give you any land? Also, don't let any government or political party make you believe that the land that you feel you deserve is owned by the private individuals of South Africa, so you must take that land. The government owns South Africa. They can give you the land that they own, which is currently not being used or occupied - both in urban and rural areas
He fails to say under British rule SA nationalised the land, under boere rule, apartheid SA nationalised in order to give their people access to land. He fails to say apartheid was declared a crime against the humanity of black people. He fails to explain why nationalisation is a problem when black people have political power so that they can give access to land to those who were forcefully dispossessed of land by colonisation and apartheid.
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub The ANC government has never nationalised land for the benefit of the black majority, sit down if you don't understand how such government policy generates generational wealth. You have no capacity to lecture me about the commercial and sentimental value of land here on African soil. Take your arrogance back to Holland
NO, He cant be an advisor of SA, maybe so country in Europe where majority is white people. if he is telling the truth 1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people ,rural. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people. so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. The fact that he does not know how to use the land that does not mean there all black people does not know how to use the land. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land. He is speaking to maintain the legacy of Apartheid. no wanda white people in the comments like him
Black people had since 1994. Put on your big man pants and create a black agricultural future. Which ANC (your people) could not or would not. End of story.@@josephmkhondo125
Are you referring to this interview, if he is telling the truth ,let us analysis him and see if he is telling the truth. 1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people ,rural. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people. so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. The fact that he does not know how to use the land that does not mean there all black people does not know how to use the land. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land. He is speaking to maintain the legacy of Apartheid. no wanda white people in the comments like him
Shame on you to speak of our fellow neighbors Zimbabwe like that. If you knew the truth about the elementary elements of Zim dismiss, you will change your tone on Zim, your are the victim of white media propaganda, eg resent event Mohammed Ghaddafi of Libya, what's your comment on this example? I will like to hear it.
If taking back our land is Zimbabweazination, We don't care. We want our land. Only a fool will believe that the land is only for farming. There are resources in our land which supposed to be benefitting the natives. You guys will deceives other countries not SAns
@@Coco-kw3ivyou will be begging for foreign aid so your population doesn’t starve. Just like the Zimbos are doing now, 2 decades after taking “the land”😂😂😂
@@Coco-kw3ivdude if you cannot use the land don’t bother get it. Experimenting with the land will put you/your family and the country back. Look at Zimbabwe the people “got” the land and failed miserably to utilize even AFTER getting massive support and resources from the government . Even if you gold how you going to mine it without the zama zama knocking on your door wanting a piece of the mineral? Or growing crops to feed the nation or export it? Even if the government gives you the resources to do what you want on the farm can you run a farm effectively to see it a productive assets? Farm manage to is not swinging by on a weekend to check on how things are doing. Again get to know what happened with the Zimbabwe land issue so that YOU don’t repeat their mistake else you will end growing maize on land meant for tobacco
No,Are you referring to this interview, if he is telling the truth ,let us analysis him and see if he is telling the truth. 1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people ,rural. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people. so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. The fact that he does not know how to use the land that does not mean there all black people does not know how to use the land. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land. He is speaking to maintain the legacy of Apartheid. no wanda white people in the comments like him
You r so so right. He always comes with sober advices and analysis. Remember the ANC doesn't care about anyone other than themselves, they don't even listen to the tax payers, SA citizens and their voters when complaining about unemployment, safety, poor health system, influx of African foreigners, Nigeria drug lords, killings of children and women, poor police system, poor education system in townships. I can go on and on about the wrong things occurring in Mzantsi, ANC never ever listens and will not do so as they can't reflect on what is going wrong in the country. Instead they'll hide behind blaming apartheid.
But the land is not for farming only, I might not be interested in farming but in a land I can always build properties and sell them, I can be a property developer if I have the land! I don't agree with him when he says we stay in urban areas and have no interest in farming as if land is for that purpose only. So many profitable things can be done in a land. Even those white south Africans he is talking about don't use the land to farm only. They develop and still sell the land they stole and dispossessed and make huge profits about it. He is talking like his brother, they all in that family think black ppl are incapable of using the land right! We do need to expropriate the land.
I am a Catholic from the north of Ireland and had bad experiences of British soldiers under occupation, friends fathers arrested without a trial and sadly family members killed as well as countless neighbours. Moeletsi is so right here! Talks so much sense. In the north of Ireland Catholics built an engineering empire here that took us out of poverty and gave us the ability to earn a decent pay for a days work. Delighted to see this necessary shake up in South Africa. I was there a year ago and it was so insightful to see the potential but the sad current state of affairs with load shedding and ridiculously high crime rates.
This gentleman has wisdom and logic..each person has to take ownership and responsibility for looking for opportunities and move forward into the future
Are you referring to this interview, if he is telling the truth ,let us analysis him and see if he is telling the truth. 1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people ,rural. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people. so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. The fact that he does not know how to use the land that does not mean there all black people does not know how to use the land. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land. He is speaking to maintain the legacy of Apartheid. no wanda white people in the comments like him
you mean white system needs him to brain wash black people, if he is telling the truth ,let us analysis him and see if he is telling the truth. 1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people ,rural. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people. so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. The fact that he does not know how to use the land that does not mean there all black people does not know how to use the land. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land. He is speaking to maintain the legacy of Apartheid. no wanda white people in the comments like him
The ANC has created a situation where the majority of our youth are more unskilled and uneducated than their parents and grandparents were under apartheid. My parents and their peers did not have university degrees and were from poor backgrounds, but there were welders, plumbers, builders, carpenters, electricians, tilers, seamstresses, spaza shop owners, caterers, etc. among them - and they could feed their families without collecting a child grant or a R370 grant. They were not dependant on handouts. They could go out and catch their own fish instead of queuing each month to be handed fish. And they understood the importance of educating their children and teaching them to think for themselves and work hard.
Very very well said. That’s the truth because black people were thriving before ANC got in government. It’s quite sad and now people see that ANC was never a liberation movement but a group of power hungry people who were thinking about their stomachs and their families stomachs only.
What I think one of our own are lazy to work, they want freebies Thry want gov. to give employment to all which is impossible. What I hate is the same gov. promising us jobs, knowing well that they cannot even employ 50% of the unemployed public
And as a coloured we were close buddies. Visiting each other. Training each other. And even being part of stokveld. The ANC separated us with their racial policies.
As a white guy I can tell you that my forebears were the same kind of working people too! Without university degrees they all managed to pull themselves up the ladder of success to varying degrees in their lives purely by their grit and determination. Some made it to a comfortable financial position too, other less so! The skills you speak of should be taught free of charge to all who desire to learn them, government should pay for that vocational education and you will see this country begin to prosper as a result of the application of those skills in the job market and in the many small and micro businesses that enterprising folks will set up.
While other are enjoying the spoils of the past right, so I stole your jacket in the past today is winter, what do you do? take it back or move on. you say move on , then I say where is logic. the difference between black and white today is old money ( referring to majority do not think about individuals).
@@josephmkhondo125he’s saying empower yourself to make a new jacket actually more jackets, instead of crying over the stolen one, so that if you lucky enough to get it back, then now you have more that 1 old worn out jacket, and you have also learned a new skill( manufacturing jackets). Let your pain be your educator.
No. Isinamuva liyabukwa... Someone comes to your home takes everything and gets reach and comes back to you and says... let's forget the past. That just breaks my heart that we can forget the bloodshed, the crime... building a future with what?
Are you referring to this interview, if he is the best your bar is very low? let us analysis him and see if he is the best. 1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land.
@@josephmkhondo1251. The 1000 can not be farmers. 10 should buy the farms at an open market and work on it with skill and experience Not revenge mentally. Some of the people that got freebies have sold them. Free market prevails, hence the 8% has stopped being the sole employer. Government and the private (all willing and abled companies and entrepreneurs) sector has become the biggest employer. Listen carefully. 😊
Agree with most of his points except that of land. To assume that land is needed predominantly to farm and live like stone ages is undermining people’s intelligence.
what do people want to do with the land? thats what i don't understand..do so many of our people seriously want to be commercial farmers? most people i know won't survive without data or wifi somewhere in the sticks
Vast amounts of land will always be needed for agriculture because people need the food that land produces (crops, meat, dairy etc). So if you own a large parcel of agricultural land you must work that land or it becomes unproductive. What most people really want is a home to own and live in, not large amounts of farm land. But of course a home is expensive, so you probably need a loan to buy that home and a job to pay the loan.
The old man is loosing it on land issue, Land is very important in South Africa ,if you are paying a bond, look at the land price in which the house is built, when government wants to build houses for the poorer, It pays huge amounts of money to those owners.
Mbeki is one of the most intelligent politicians I have listened to. His logic about BEE is so clear that the majority do not understand. Only Cyril knows the truth about supressing the Blacks with BEE. The same applies to the minimum wage and land ownership. Bheki, as intelligent as he is clearly says that if he is given a farm he will not know what to do with it. So what will an ordinary Black person do with the land, taken from productive farmers and given to them. Julius needs to answer this.
So to you... it is right that people work and not protect to atleast get a minimum wage. I personally know people that were doing very hard for the whole day for R50 or R100. They have to also pay transport and lunch from that money. Unions won't help you against a mean employer they too are powerless. So minimum wage is not just essential it's crucial. Secondly we need the land back. We don't want to farm we have better uses. Lastly only a thief that stole in the past that doesn't want to go in the past. It breaks my heart to hear such sell outs on top of this dire poverty we're dealing with
Rhetorical question to the presenter - Who has not addressed the inequality issue? Answer. The government, which has been the ANC. No one else. They have had 30 years but have only overseen increased poverty, unemployment, crime, the "near total collapse of the State" though inept, corrupt self entitlement.
The problem with these politicians is the determination to make black people professional victims. We need to be accountable to ourselves and families and build ourselves and this country from the ground up. Nobody else can do it but us. We are 92% of this country.
If we had political leaders of Mbeki Moeletsi calibre, we wouldnt be in this mess...his insight and knowledge, also wisdom is what is greatly lacking in South Africa 🇿🇦...we have such incredible black men in this country,who have such good morals and ethics, shame that they are not used as consultants to make South Africa better and prosperous....
@@corneliacoetz243 we all know that. Black Africans have been farming for many many years before land dispositions. Those who want to farm (commercial or subsistence) must go ahead and do so.
Funny thing is no one who wants to appropriate land is talking about the plans they have for the land (Yes, a lot us would be horrible farmers). Don't you find that funny? Land ownership is not the means to its own ends, it has to serve a purpose. NO ONE talks the objectives and plans for what we want to do in the first place
I agree with him in most of the fundamental issues he had asserted but I disagree on the issue of the land. The majority of the blacks are disposed of the land and even those residing in urban areas are renting or are paying bonds that they'll pay forever. He speaks of the land available for sale on marketplaces, who is selling that land and how much did they pay for it and from who did they buy it? How many blacks can even afford those prices?
This is a very wise person,, and you can see he has really lived through it & around many loud opposing people who don't speak with democracy & the welfare of any human being in mind.
He was a top respected leader had a Masters in Economics from London: Economy was thriving, rand was strong, inflation low, interest rates low, crime low, unemployment low and middle class growing. Corruption was low and he managed his Ministers by performance. Cabinets was not bloated it was half the size that it currently is❤
Yes Sir, I started a company as a black woman. It was hard but I'm getting there now. We must build the businesses, etc together with government. Yes I'm doing business of things that I know and capable of doing. Nothing is easy in life but we must push and do this
“A nation is great not by its size alone. It is the will, the cohesion, the stamina, the discipline of its people and the QUALITY of their leaders which ensure it an honourable place in history.”- Lee Kuan Yew (First PM of Singapore).
Mbeki,I agree with you 💯 percent ,we can't look back, we need to build the future not the past,and you're right you can't have a position you never worked for and earn money for doing nothing.
I admire this man his correct on everything even about the land. His correct buy what you want..... I believe nothing is free and I mean everything is not free.
Maybe Mr Mbeki is one of the beneficiaries like majority of politicians post apartheid. Like, where should this 92% build those industries and mines? In who's land if the only land they have is in the squatter camps now called townships? 🤦🏻♂️
guys please read political documents on these things if you want to make a meaningful contribution not this things you are writing here, you are embarrassing yourselves.
Are you referring to this interview, if he is telling the truth ,let us analysis him and see if he is telling the truth. 1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people ,rural. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people. so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. The fact that he does not know how to use the land that does not mean there all black people does not know how to use the land. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land. He is speaking to maintain the legacy of Apartheid. no wanda white people in the comments like him
I am starting too believe that commentators are in payrolls of party funders. This man talks as if the 92% has privileges e.g. access to capital which is monopolised by the same 8%. He chooses to ignore the fact that the 8% is waging an economic war against the 92% and that is what is actually going to burn the country than build it. The 92% is slowly waking up from self hate that they have been taught by the 8%, with such poor leadership at play the 92% may soon accept the war challenge brought on by the 8% and flames would fly.
@@josephmkhondo125 Apparently Samora Machel said ' when you hear Europeans praising me, you should know i sold you out. I bought a Luxurious car through a large bank, it has been discovered Africans pay more interest than Europeans in this country. that is building the our country he's talking about. i can go on and on.
The 2.7 % of Indians living in South Africa don't wait for handout or freebies, since our forefathers arrived in South Africa they worked as labours in the sugarcane plantations...the whites exploited us but we preservered and educated ourselves, improving our standard of living. We were not privileged as the whites but we made something with our lives and we will continue to be prosperous because we believe in hardwork and progress. Unfortunately, even in this new government we are still marginalized because now we are too white to be black , but we will continue to persevere....
This madala is a fool you can't compare bread and politics.In politics every move hv its outcome.Now is the time anc can see firing malema was not just like firing a worker in your farm and arresting Zuma wasn't just like arresting a shoplifter.You can address the past just like jews.Yes you can't built it but you can definitely address the past.
Nice try. "Khoisan" is a meaningless abstraction label. It's more than clear through genetics and archaeology that 10s of millions of black South Africans going back millennia are a continuous lineage and evolution of South African past hunter-gatherers & pastoralists. So that would be the rightful owners and collective deciders by the tens of millions. And natives are under no obligation to remain culturally static, (nor are types of land use static.)
We have so many brilliant minds across the board. Why do they never become politicians. They operate successfully on the fringes of society in their own respective roles. Why are our politicians not imbued with such succinct minds?
Sir Mbeki, I love your wisdom thank you from a DA supporter in the Western Cape you are a very wise and balanced academic 🙌
This is the kind of person we need in government. He could talk to world leaders and earn respect for South Africa so we are taken seriously.
The one voice of reason and very brave analyst, the truth is evident explained very clearly for those who approach dealing with South Africa's challenges with an open mind.
Mr Mbeki you're the real man, you stand for the truth..I adore nd Respect you my True Political Analyst 👏, i wish ngabe all the Politicians listened to you..Stop being arrogant
Excellent interview! BEE must be scrapped. I’m a big fan of Moeletsi. Honoured to have shared the stage with him. Great man!
I love this man's thinking. You are completely correct sir!
Are you referring to this interview, if he is telling the truth ,let us analysis him and see if he is telling the truth.
1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people ,rural. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people. so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. The fact that he does not know how to use the land that does not mean there all black people does not know how to use the land. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land. He is speaking to maintain the legacy of Apartheid. no wanda white people in the comments like him
@josephmkhondo125 Your obsession to divide humanity is the fundamental problem from the start of humanity on this planet. Until you appreciate that there is only ONE race, the human race, you will forever miss the point. All the evil that have befallen man is based on this division. If humanity is to overcome this destructive tendency, it must awaken to its oneness and gives equal opportunity to every single individual. Whatever an individual makes out of life is entirely up to him.
@@josephmkhondo125 I understand your point that not all Black people are incapable of farming. However, political parties aren't telling the masses that should they win the election, they will only give the land to certain people or larger pieces of land to those individuals who can engage in commercial farming immediately and successfully to sustain the population to avoid a food crisis in South Africa.
These parties are making people believe that everyone will get land equally and without consequence because it meets those parties' ends - to be elected to have money and power.
Also, practically, if we hand out property to 54-60 million people in 2024, and the population grows to 65 million people by 2030, what happens to those extra 5 million people? Where is their land? Then in 2035 there are more people who want land and more people want land in 2040, at what point is the cut-off to say okay this land makes up for the past? How are we're going to say to a Black person who is 18 years old in 2045, although we gave other Black people land, we're not going to give you any land?
Also, don't let any government or political party make you believe that the land that you feel you deserve is owned by the private individuals of South Africa, so you must take that land. The government owns South Africa. They can give you the land that they own, which is currently not being used or occupied - both in urban and rural areas
Moeletsi Mbeki has balls, he doesn't shy away from telling the truth without fighting but logically.
Beneficiary of BEE
And the brother acts the other way around 😂😂😂
He fails to say under British rule SA nationalised the land, under boere rule, apartheid SA nationalised in order to give their people access to land. He fails to say apartheid was declared a crime against the humanity of black people.
He fails to explain why nationalisation is a problem when black people have political power so that they can give access to land to those who were forcefully dispossessed of land by colonisation and apartheid.
@@biko8229 You had your opportunity to get your land back but you blew it.
Stop blaming your failure on others and buy your own land.
@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub The ANC government has never nationalised land for the benefit of the black majority, sit down if you don't understand how such government policy generates generational wealth.
You have no capacity to lecture me about the commercial and sentimental value of land here on African soil. Take your arrogance back to Holland
Mbeki is a wise man got a lot of respect for a man who know what his talking about, make him the advisor to the president.
NO, He cant be an advisor of SA, maybe so country in Europe where majority is white people. if he is telling the truth
1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people ,rural. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people. so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. The fact that he does not know how to use the land that does not mean there all black people does not know how to use the land. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land. He is speaking to maintain the legacy of Apartheid. no wanda white people in the comments like him
Black people had since 1994. Put on your big man pants and create a black agricultural future. Which ANC (your people) could not or would not. End of story.@@josephmkhondo125
I really enjoyed this interview they were having with Mr Moeletsi Mbeki I salute Ntate.Thank you so much straight talk doesn't break any friendship
Great analysis by Mr Mbeki. Straight to the point. No bias whatsoever
This guy speaks so much truth. Remarkable intelligent person.
Are you referring to this interview, if he is telling the truth ,let us analysis him and see if he is telling the truth.
1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people ,rural. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people. so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. The fact that he does not know how to use the land that does not mean there all black people does not know how to use the land. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land. He is speaking to maintain the legacy of Apartheid. no wanda white people in the comments like him
Exactly. We need competent people with integrity calm posture. Role models for the youth to come
What a wise individual! I accord with him on the black empowerment policy, it violates the intellectual integrity of blacks
💯 I share the same sentiment.
Excellent interview !! And his point of view is 100 % correct , and he knows what hes talking about
He is the most competent, capable and intelligent person in the history of South African politics
Well spoken Mbeki for discuss like an educated black man. Tell them to stop this ZIMBABWENISATION of SA
Shame on you to speak of our fellow neighbors Zimbabwe like that. If you knew the truth about the elementary elements of Zim dismiss, you will change your tone on Zim, your are the victim of white media propaganda, eg resent event Mohammed Ghaddafi of Libya, what's your comment on this example? I will like to hear it.
No comparison between him and the character called Zuma
If taking back our land is Zimbabweazination, We don't care. We want our land. Only a fool will believe that the land is only for farming. There are resources in our land which supposed to be benefitting the natives. You guys will deceives other countries not SAns
@@Coco-kw3ivyou will be begging for foreign aid so your population doesn’t starve. Just like the Zimbos are doing now, 2 decades after taking “the land”😂😂😂
@@Coco-kw3ivdude if you cannot use the land don’t bother get it. Experimenting with the land will put you/your family and the country back. Look at Zimbabwe the people “got” the land and failed miserably to utilize even AFTER getting massive support and resources from the government . Even if you gold how you going to mine it without the zama zama knocking on your door wanting a piece of the mineral? Or growing crops to feed the nation or export it? Even if the government gives you the resources to do what you want on the farm can you run a farm effectively to see it a productive assets? Farm manage to is not swinging by on a weekend to check on how things are doing. Again get to know what happened with the Zimbabwe land issue so that YOU don’t repeat their mistake else you will end growing maize on land meant for tobacco
Moeletsi Mbeki is a wise old man. I wish politicians listen to him.
No,Are you referring to this interview, if he is telling the truth ,let us analysis him and see if he is telling the truth.
1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people ,rural. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people. so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. The fact that he does not know how to use the land that does not mean there all black people does not know how to use the land. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land. He is speaking to maintain the legacy of Apartheid. no wanda white people in the comments like him
Naledi excellent interview no emotions or picking sides
Moeletsi Mbeki what a wise man why the hell ain't he in Parliament & Government Seriously
Mr Mbeki, your knowledge and logic are so valuable.
Great respect for this man!
A vary wise man. His views should be required reading for every member of parliament.
Had the ANC listened to interviews of this man, they wouldn't be where they're today
And even the white people would have voted ANC.
You r so so right. He always comes with sober advices and analysis. Remember the ANC doesn't care about anyone other than themselves, they don't even listen to the tax payers, SA citizens and their voters when complaining about unemployment, safety, poor health system, influx of African foreigners, Nigeria drug lords, killings of children and women, poor police system, poor education system in townships. I can go on and on about the wrong things occurring in Mzantsi, ANC never ever listens and will not do so as they can't reflect on what is going wrong in the country. Instead they'll hide behind blaming apartheid.
He is indeed a voice of reason.
But the land is not for farming only, I might not be interested in farming but in a land I can always build properties and sell them, I can be a property developer if I have the land! I don't agree with him when he says we stay in urban areas and have no interest in farming as if land is for that purpose only. So many profitable things can be done in a land. Even those white south Africans he is talking about don't use the land to farm only. They develop and still sell the land they stole and dispossessed and make huge profits about it. He is talking like his brother, they all in that family think black ppl are incapable of using the land right! We do need to expropriate the land.
So you want to get a peace of land for free .? Which means you want everything for free
Very sensible man.
How wonderful to hear clear thinking from this man
I am a Catholic from the north of Ireland and had bad experiences of British soldiers under occupation, friends fathers arrested without a trial and sadly family members killed as well as countless neighbours. Moeletsi is so right here! Talks so much sense. In the north of Ireland Catholics built an engineering empire here that took us out of poverty and gave us the ability to earn a decent pay for a days work. Delighted to see this necessary shake up in South Africa. I was there a year ago and it was so insightful to see the potential but the sad current state of affairs with load shedding and ridiculously high crime rates.
Mr Mbeki, you're strong OG. You spoke nothing but the truth. They gonna say you're speaking from "privilege"😂😂. You know who.
😀😀😀😀🤣 exactly 💯
But he is, sold out this one looooong ago. White capitalist apologist.
😂😂😂😂😂
This gentleman has wisdom and logic..each person has to take ownership and responsibility for looking for opportunities and move forward into the future
Interesting analysis, much respect for this man.
Finally, someone who gets it.
No holds barred..you just heat us with painful truth (land myth)
Are you referring to this interview, if he is telling the truth ,let us analysis him and see if he is telling the truth.
1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people ,rural. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people. so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. The fact that he does not know how to use the land that does not mean there all black people does not know how to use the land. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land. He is speaking to maintain the legacy of Apartheid. no wanda white people in the comments like him
A great analysis !
Want land then get a bond and do what you want to do on that land
This man knows his stuff. Love him.
THE PEOPLE HAVE VOTED. GO DA AND ANC. MAKE IT WORK.
Mbeki love your point of view. You make sense .
Well said sir, we need people to educate the people.
you mean white system needs him to brain wash black people, if he is telling the truth ,let us analysis him and see if he is telling the truth.
1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people ,rural. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people. so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. The fact that he does not know how to use the land that does not mean there all black people does not know how to use the land. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land. He is speaking to maintain the legacy of Apartheid. no wanda white people in the comments like him
MUCH RESPECT TO YOU SIR. YOU MAKE SENSE.
This is the only person I can listen to
The ANC has created a situation where the majority of our youth are more unskilled and uneducated than their parents and grandparents were under apartheid.
My parents and their peers did not have university degrees and were from poor backgrounds, but there were welders, plumbers, builders, carpenters, electricians, tilers, seamstresses, spaza shop owners, caterers, etc. among them - and they could feed their families without collecting a child grant or a R370 grant.
They were not dependant on handouts. They could go out and catch their own fish instead of queuing each month to be handed fish. And they understood the importance of educating their children and teaching them to think for themselves and work hard.
Very very well said. That’s the truth because black people were thriving before ANC got in government. It’s quite sad and now people see that ANC was never a liberation movement but a group of power hungry people who were thinking about their stomachs and their families stomachs only.
Respect to you! Please become a leader.
What I think one of our own are lazy to work, they want freebies Thry want gov. to give employment to all which is impossible. What I hate is the same gov. promising us jobs, knowing well that they cannot even employ 50% of the unemployed public
And as a coloured we were close buddies. Visiting each other. Training each other. And even being part of stokveld. The ANC separated us with their racial policies.
As a white guy I can tell you that my forebears were the same kind of working people too! Without university degrees they all managed to pull themselves up the ladder of success to varying degrees in their lives purely by their grit and determination. Some made it to a comfortable financial position too, other less so! The skills you speak of should be taught free of charge to all who desire to learn them, government should pay for that vocational education and you will see this country begin to prosper as a result of the application of those skills in the job market and in the many small and micro businesses that enterprising folks will set up.
I want to read this man's book. We need this man in government instead of imbeciles.
I love this guy. He is so spot on.
Superior logic🙌🙌 very brave views
Well said Mr Mbeki.
We can't build the past, but our future.
Focusing on the past is keeping us there
While other are enjoying the spoils of the past right, so I stole your jacket in the past today is winter, what do you do? take it back or move on. you say move on , then I say where is logic. the difference between black and white today is old money ( referring to majority do not think about individuals).
So true!!
@@josephmkhondo125he’s saying empower yourself to make a new jacket actually more jackets, instead of crying over the stolen one, so that if you lucky enough to get it back, then now you have more that 1 old worn out jacket, and you have also learned a new skill( manufacturing jackets). Let your pain be your educator.
No. Isinamuva liyabukwa... Someone comes to your home takes everything and gets reach and comes back to you and says... let's forget the past. That just breaks my heart that we can forget the bloodshed, the crime... building a future with what?
Both of the Mbeki brothers are very smart.
Tha best analyst who doesn't hide no secrets
Are you referring to this interview, if he is the best your bar is very low? let us analysis him and see if he is the best. 1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land.
he's talking kak
@@josephmkhondo1251. The 1000 can not be farmers. 10 should buy the farms at an open market and work on it with skill and experience Not revenge mentally.
Some of the people that got freebies have sold them.
Free market prevails, hence the 8% has stopped being the sole employer.
Government and the private (all willing and abled companies and entrepreneurs) sector has become the biggest employer.
Listen carefully. 😊
The man all ways telling the truth ❤❤❤
Moeletsi Mbeki never shies away from the truth.
There is no future living in the past. Love mr Moeletsi Mbeki's intelligent views.
He is a lost soul.....people died like dogs in the past
Worse in their God given land by the ancestors of those who are not willing what was stolen
@@bongani2281 millions died in Rwanda during genocide but country has moved on.
Of course, because it favors you?
Agree with most of his points except that of land. To assume that land is needed predominantly to farm and live like stone ages is undermining people’s intelligence.
what do people want to do with the land? thats what i don't understand..do so many of our people seriously want to be commercial farmers? most people i know won't survive without data or wifi somewhere in the sticks
Vast amounts of land will always be needed for agriculture because people need the food that land produces (crops, meat, dairy etc). So if you own a large parcel of agricultural land you must work that land or it becomes unproductive. What most people really want is a home to own and live in, not large amounts of farm land. But of course a home is expensive, so you probably need a loan to buy that home and a job to pay the loan.
Good question...
What are they going to do with the land, informal settlements.
Politicians must stop playing with our minds
Well what else do you want to do with huge areas of commercial farm land? Cause you better farm it to make enough food for 60 million people
The old man is loosing it on land issue, Land is very important in South Africa ,if you are paying a bond, look at the land price in which the house is built, when government wants to build houses for the poorer, It pays huge amounts of money to those owners.
Immensely proud of the South Africans that voted out the ANC 🫶🏾❤️
Mbeki is one of the most intelligent politicians I have listened to. His logic about BEE is so clear that the majority do not understand. Only Cyril knows the truth about supressing the Blacks with BEE. The same applies to the minimum wage and land ownership. Bheki, as intelligent as he is clearly says that if he is given a farm he will not know what to do with it. So what will an ordinary Black person do with the land, taken from productive farmers and given to them. Julius needs to answer this.
So to you... it is right that people work and not protect to atleast get a minimum wage. I personally know people that were doing very hard for the whole day for R50 or R100. They have to also pay transport and lunch from that money. Unions won't help you against a mean employer they too are powerless. So minimum wage is not just essential it's crucial. Secondly we need the land back. We don't want to farm we have better uses. Lastly only a thief that stole in the past that doesn't want to go in the past. It breaks my heart to hear such sell outs on top of this dire poverty we're dealing with
This guy is a national treasure. Protect him at all costs.
Rhetorical question to the presenter - Who has not addressed the inequality issue? Answer. The government, which has been the ANC. No one else. They have had 30 years but have only overseen increased poverty, unemployment, crime, the "near total collapse of the State" though inept, corrupt self entitlement.
They want to keep their voters poor.
he has always been critical about BEE. i wonder what he & his brother talk about around the braai fire
Fight rather than talk
As far as I’m aware Moeletsi and Thabo have never gotten along
Make this man president. He is the only person who is speaking with wisdom. Those who have ears should listen.
Very true!
This Mbeki elder was the blacksheep of the family, it's no secret.
Well said Tata Mbeki 👏👏👏especially in on the issue of land👋👋
Wow! What an interesting interview. Mindblown.
The PEOPLE have spoken! God bless this nation!
The problem with these politicians is the determination to make black people professional victims. We need to be accountable to ourselves and families and build ourselves and this country from the ground up. Nobody else can do it but us. We are 92% of this country.
You can only build something "from the ground up" if you have some ground. If that "ground" was stolen from you, how are you building anything??
If we had political leaders of Mbeki Moeletsi calibre, we wouldnt be in this mess...his insight and knowledge, also wisdom is what is greatly lacking in South Africa 🇿🇦...we have such incredible black men in this country,who have such good morals and ethics, shame that they are not used as consultants to make South Africa better and prosperous....
13:45 Mbeki is talking nonsense. The land is not limited to farming. He is peddling lies...
You are 100% correct Vusi
Farming bring food to table!
@@corneliacoetz243 we all know that. Black Africans have been farming for many many years before land dispositions.
Those who want to farm (commercial or subsistence) must go ahead and do so.
Funny thing is no one who wants to appropriate land is talking about the plans they have for the land (Yes, a lot us would be horrible farmers). Don't you find that funny? Land ownership is not the means to its own ends, it has to serve a purpose. NO ONE talks the objectives and plans for what we want to do in the first place
He is a sellout of old, this one... I take everything he says with a pinch of salt.
Mbeki always speaks sense.
Hi this is a nice man he knows what life is ahead
Very well said. Sir.
Well done Moeletsi, finally someone is talking sense.
Well said Moeletsi! The voice of reason - hallelujah!!!
To the speaker exclusively well spoken discussions and understanding politics for ordinary citizens.🕎🌍🇿🇦💒🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️
I agree with him in most of the fundamental issues he had asserted but I disagree on the issue of the land. The majority of the blacks are disposed of the land and even those residing in urban areas are renting or are paying bonds that they'll pay forever. He speaks of the land available for sale on marketplaces, who is selling that land and how much did they pay for it and from who did they buy it? How many blacks can even afford those prices?
He is a counter-revolutionary. A bourgeoisie of note.
Wow real thinking, not politics
This is a very wise person,, and you can see he has really lived through it & around many loud opposing people who don't speak with democracy & the welfare of any human being in mind.
Good factual analysis Mr Mbeki
Madala when he speaks i don't want to miss a word
He was a top respected leader had a Masters in Economics from London: Economy was thriving, rand was strong, inflation low, interest rates low, crime low, unemployment low and middle class growing. Corruption was low and he managed his Ministers by performance. Cabinets was not bloated it was half the size that it currently is❤
Yes Sir, I started a company as a black woman. It was hard but I'm getting there now. We must build the businesses, etc together with government. Yes I'm doing business of things that I know and capable of doing. Nothing is easy in life but we must push and do this
Well said Sir!
Truth, pretty amazing.
“A nation is great not by its size alone. It is the will, the cohesion, the stamina, the discipline of its people and the QUALITY of their leaders which ensure it an honourable place in history.”- Lee Kuan Yew (First PM of Singapore).
The women whose is interviewing Mr mbike,,,she is smart.the manner in which how she handles it is adorable..💯
She is my ex
People is still living in past the can not progress for future or present 🎉🎉🎉
Mbeki,I agree with you 💯 percent ,we can't look back, we need to build the future not the past,and you're right you can't have a position you never worked for and earn money for doing nothing.
I admire this man his correct on everything even about the land. His correct buy what you want.....
I believe nothing is free and I mean everything is not free.
Maybe Mr Mbeki is one of the beneficiaries like majority of politicians post apartheid. Like, where should this 92% build those industries and mines? In who's land if the only land they have is in the squatter camps now called townships? 🤦🏻♂️
Uyaphapha uMbeki.
Every black south Africans have homeland??? Bafokeng platinum daaa where are your forefathers from Soweto????
I think the ANC must work with the DA it will be good for their donors,so that we can finish the job in 2026 and vote them out
You which 😂
The country will be gone by then
2026 is local elections
@@georgephutsisi8838 if they partner with MK and or EFF
Vote them out and vote for which party?
How good does my Pres still look like 😊🎉❤
MBeki speak truth. PROUDLY SA.
What a Brilliant mind....where has he been?
True ntate Mbeki we can't even make vegetable garden in our back yards truth be told.what are we going to do with land build shacks?
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guys please read political documents on these things if you want to make a meaningful contribution not this things you are writing here, you are embarrassing yourselves.
This is simple put people that are patriotic in the correct positions. People with morals, integrity & values.
True Sir
What an incredible interview. Just so uplifting
Mbeki is a true "Gatekeeper of whiteness"...
This gentleman makes very good points. And i think he is correct .92% cannot live on freebies and hand outs of 8% .
Are you referring to this interview, if he is telling the truth ,let us analysis him and see if he is telling the truth.
1) where are the majority of white people? Urban right. but most farmers are white people ,rural. so the what he says about the land and black people is not true, in the community of 1000 people you only need 10 farmers to feed all this people. so 900 can be in Urban and 100 in rural. so what he says about land is nonsense. The fact that he does not know how to use the land that does not mean there all black people does not know how to use the land. He is not speaking for what our leaders stood for eg Robert Sebukwe , Chris Hani, Steve Biko etc. He is speaking to maintain the white privilege at the expenses of our black people who are marginalized from participating the strategic economics in our land. He is speaking to maintain the legacy of Apartheid. no wanda white people in the comments like him
I am starting too believe that commentators are in payrolls of party funders. This man talks as if the 92% has privileges e.g. access to capital which is monopolised by the same 8%. He chooses to ignore the fact that the 8% is waging an economic war against the 92% and that is what is actually going to burn the country than build it. The 92% is slowly waking up from self hate that they have been taught by the 8%, with such poor leadership at play the 92% may soon accept the war challenge brought on by the 8% and flames would fly.
@@josephmkhondo125 Apparently Samora Machel said ' when you hear Europeans praising me, you should know i sold you out. I bought a Luxurious car through a large bank, it has been discovered Africans pay more interest than Europeans in this country. that is building the our country he's talking about. i can go on and on.
The 2.7 % of Indians living in South Africa don't wait for handout or freebies, since our forefathers arrived in South Africa they worked as labours in the sugarcane plantations...the whites exploited us but we preservered and educated ourselves, improving our standard of living. We were not privileged as the whites but we made something with our lives and we will continue to be prosperous because we believe in hardwork and progress. Unfortunately, even in this new government we are still marginalized because now we are too white to be black , but we will continue to persevere....
This madala is a fool you can't compare bread and politics.In politics every move hv its outcome.Now is the time anc can see firing malema was not just like firing a worker in your farm and arresting Zuma wasn't just like arresting a shoplifter.You can address the past just like jews.Yes you can't built it but you can definitely address the past.
VIVA! Mbeki!
Give land back to rightful owners.... development and training is key and can be put in place,not impossible!
Did 'owners bought/pay for what land'??
To the Khoisan? All two of them?
Nice try. "Khoisan" is a meaningless abstraction label.
It's more than clear through genetics and archaeology that 10s of millions of black South Africans going back millennia are a continuous lineage and evolution of South African past hunter-gatherers & pastoralists.
So that would be the rightful owners and collective deciders by the tens of millions.
And natives are under no obligation to remain culturally static, (nor are types of land use static.)
Wow MR Mbeki WOW amandla
Q: how does one address the past?
A: One cannot address the past because the past is history. What one can and should do is address the future.
We have so many brilliant minds across the board. Why do they never become politicians. They operate successfully on the fringes of society in their own respective roles. Why are our politicians not imbued with such succinct minds?
We really need Moeletsi Mbeki as our South African President
Imagine that disaster