I really want a big screen like that, but maybe not OLED? Isn't this the perfect recipe for burn-in? Windows always in the same zones. The middle ones are used the most. Tabs in the same place every time. Text in the same place. Task bar in the same place. Do you think 42" would be better then the 48?
Thank you David for your curated technology and lifestyle videos. The quality of your videos illustrates the value of fewer but very topical content. All the best to you and your family during the holiday season.
I've been using 40" 4K TV's as computer displays since last year and its the best thing ever. Its the perfect time to start thinking about using them, prices are very affordable. and Microsofts Power Toys with Fancy Zones is a great pairing.
I just bought the lg for a content creation monitor, and I was literally writing a comment about what software you use. Then I saw this video thanks so much!
@@jamesmacleod8388 tried 3 and 4 bands. The spotify app cant be made smaller then a certain LxW for some dumb reason. Because of that I had to use 3 bands since 4 bands was just to small. But 4 bands is like the sweet spot I find. So I now use discord and spotify in 2 bands (2x2 bands each) and otherwise I split it like 3/1 1/1/1/1 or 2/2.
I have been using this screen as a computer monitor for a couple of days. It works, but is far from optimal. The PPI is 0.96, which is far away from the optimal 110 PPI. Everything is very soft. Text is "fuzzy" even with a 60Hz RGB signal, full working days on the screen were painful. The optimal size for 4K at 110 PPI would be 40", to avoid any scaling. I think a good resolution for 48" would be 5120 x 2880, at 122 PPI, and 125% in Windows 10. Burn in is a major issue, who wants to work with hidden icons and hidden taskbar? That is a total productivity killer. As for the soft/fuzzy text, especially in white backgrounds like Gmail and web pages, do I have some wrong settings? Or you have a similar experience? Thx!
Hi David!! I just wonder isnt the screen dangerous for your eyes if your gonna sit so close to it. Its still a TV. Just wondering bcs of thinking of buying one but I don't want to hurt my eyes over time. :D
I've tried using a TV before as my computer monitor, but it was very uncomfortable for my eyes. Was this because of the refresh rate or something else? If so, what TV specs would you recommend when using as a computer monitor?
Hi i am a professional photo editor, in order to use a TV comfortable as a computer monitor, you need two settings - characteristics: 4:4:4 chroma subsampling and flicker free, hope that helps.
I have similar setup, and after using fanzy zones, the setup I am more happy with is to reduce vertical resolution (so big black bars in the top and button) and to use windowgrid where you move the window in a grid.
@@vkumarnegi thank you for answering. I have managed since then to find an answer of my own, and that is I need a 'flicker free' screen, or at least 1000Hz PWM Dimming Frequency, for my eyes to function fine while working 12H/day. Unfortunately one needs to dig for this information and it's usually not in the specs. Also this better apply to office work, not so much for gaming, that it's different discussion. Hope this post may help someone out there.
I've been looking to have something that allows me to fullscreen a video (so I don't have to see the rest of the browser) within a portion of the desktop. I think displayfusion has something like this to create virtual desktops split on one monitor. An add-on on firefox call 'RUclips Full-Windowed' allows this for youtube videos but that's it. Do you know of anything similar?
I've had all kinds of setups, from ultrawides to 2x, 3x and the ol' every-monitor-I-have-because-why-not? Then I bought a CHEAP 32 inch 4k TV and it's the best monitor experience yet. I have it set up almost exactly the same (Fancy Zones, Groupy) and I don't really miss having a second monitor. This is the cheapest and best upgrade I've ever made, and I wish I'd have done it sooner.
@@wnose 30" from screen. Desk edge is 20" from the screen. Using Freedom Units because I somehow ended up with a tape measure that doesn't include cm. Also, update: I now use a second monitor turned vertically. Email and Discord live over there full-time.
I loved that flow!! Looks beautiful and even though im on an ultrawide + qhd, there's a bunch in there I want to do. So I think I might finally move on from displayfusion...
Interesting apps. I wonder if there are any Mac equivalents. I work in DevOps and work on a number of different platforms and OSes. What I have on screen are virtual machines that I switch among depending on what I’m doing. I have the 55” CX. Lots of room to work with a multitude of monitors presented on one pane of glass.
that is the exact setup am using for ultrawide monitor, but am using displayfusion instead. i divided my screen into two (2/3 and 1/3). in that way i don't need any shortcuts/keybinds. when i double click, the windows maximises into the exact dimensions of the "virtual screen" that is placed. so in a way my ultrawide monitor acts as if i have two monitors.
Amazing, I'm using a 55' oled tv as a monitor too, can you tell me your wallpaper's name? I tried last time in wallpaper engine after watching your video, but I didn't find it. And a big thanks to this video, it's really helpful.
David tnx for sharing your experience. I think 40-43 inches would be sweet spot with 4k resolution at 100% scale for productivity, but 8k in that size range with 200% scale would be ideal even for your case with 48 inches. 4k here makes picture not so smooth as we expect especially in comparison with retina in phones and Apple displays.
Gotta say you're really using it more like an ultrawide. It doesn't seem you take advantage of the top and bottom areas much; but like you said, for coders, or when you want to use as an actual TV, those options are available. I want a 4k for a work-from-home setup. However I won't have permissions on the Work Laptop to install the PowerToys, so my options for managing windows will be limited to programs that don't require registry entries. So now my debate is do I want a 43" or 65", or somewhere in-between? Seeing as how I'll be sitting a few inches further away and seeing how most of the productivity will still be in the centre of the screen, I think I may opt for the larger size. But it also depends how lowI can put the TV so my eyes are in line with the centre.
Thank you for this, i was searching for a software to do exactly this. Just got a 4K TV to use as my monitor because i think ultrawide gaming monitors are a waste of money. Big 4K TVs are basically two ultrawide monitors on top of each other 😂😂 only downside would be i wont have variable frame rate or 144hz and low input lag. But i can still melt them at 60hz :V
Where did you get those foam speaker / monitor 'stands'? I've been looking for something like that - maybe 5" high for my Vanatoo speakers FOREVER! (loved the video too fyi, sent it to my cousin as well!).
I have set up mine to the same grid as yours.. but I don't know how to set up a window key to expand it for more than one slice.. my apps only stick to the grid.. I want it to expand for 2 or 3 grids sometimes like you did.. how do I achieve that?? A shortcut?
There's a "Releases" panel to the side. github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/releases Scroll down to the "Assets" section of the latest release, and you should see a few files (a .exe, and a few .zip files). The .exe file should be named something like: PowerToysSetup-0.31.1-x64.exe Download the .exe file and run it on your PC.
How about now, after 1 year? I think TV 4k or 8k is cheaper than professional monitor like dell utrasharp. But I am considering about quality when work in long time (how about your eyes), how about Durability when we work at 10 hours a day, 360 day a year? Thank your video so much!
Hey.. Thanks for the video. I got a 43 inch 4k TV which I want to connect as a monitor for my desktop that has Radeon Graphic card with mini DP port. When I connect through miniDP to hdmi cable it gives me only HD resolution. Even when I connect via screencast app also, it gives me only HD resolution not 4k. Would you mind explaining me how you connected your desktop with monitor. Thanks in advance
cringey agony. why are you stuck at 100% font scaling?! I use my TV as I do on a conventional monitor. Of course, the advantage is with video/photo editing.
You don't need all this garbage low quality apps on macOS. Just get Moom and you are done. With Moom you can save positions and sizes of all your apps in different or one profile and get all your apps and windows in places with one key press.
It's not a monitor, it's a mirror. You see yourself and your surroundings instead of the text on your screen. It strains your eyes. Unfortunately, in the year 2022, OLED screens are glossy by default.
i was using a 55" 4K as a PC monitor. the problem is the neck posture when looking at the screen. I noted ur TV is tilted and set sitting low on the desk which I believe makes it easier to use wrt to the posture of the neck. Can I ask how did you set the TV this way? Also the segmentation for the worksheets is truly useful, as I need to move and align worksheets about manually which can be a fuss. Thanks
Next video: Why I need to use eye drops for the rest of my life. Here is my 2 cents young fella, I got a degree which involves qualified anthropometric data and I can easily tell you that you are wrecking your eyes beyond repair. Number one is that screen is WAY too close to your eyes and WAY too large for to fit anywhere near safe in ergonomics. Also adding the light output, you will need to visit your optometrist much often in the future...
There is an app called “Magnet” which is a window manager on MacOS. I am unsure of it’s flexibility on bigger displays however. I personally enjoy it on my MacBook Air- it gets the job done and well
Magnet, Moom, BetterTouchTool, Keyboard Maestro… have been the Mac evangelist for these apps in this thread, look for my other comments if you want more detail :)
Will Super Ultrawide or 16:9 Big Screen TVs be the future of Computer Monitors? I wonder...
I think for certain usecases smaller LG oleds are superior to anything on the market
Not at today’s pricing. I can’t justify a high end 49” UW display at the same price of a 65 Sony 900 Series FALD TV or 48” OLED.
I really want a big screen like that, but maybe not OLED? Isn't this the perfect recipe for burn-in? Windows always in the same zones. The middle ones are used the most. Tabs in the same place every time. Text in the same place. Task bar in the same place.
Do you think 42" would be better then the 48?
What would you say the seating distance sweet spot is for this size of monitor? I have a 29in desk.
Hi David, are you going to do an upgraded embody video? I assume you’ve been using it for a few months now and it would be cool
To know how it’s going
He’s expanding his resume from rearranging desks to rearranging his desktop
Ctrl+shift
It feels like I'm getting out of breath when he takes too long to say "hi I'm David"
Windows should have this builtin. I think tabs were promissed 2 years ago but still nothing
Agreed
This tool is developed by Microsoft developers
@@MrWanted000 powertoys yes, but not groupy
@@MrWanted000 not the tab app.
Thank you David for your curated technology and lifestyle videos. The quality of your videos illustrates the value of fewer but very topical content. All the best to you and your family during the holiday season.
This is the tip I really need in my workflow. Thanks!
I've been using 40" 4K TV's as computer displays since last year and its the best thing ever. Its the perfect time to start thinking about using them, prices are very affordable. and Microsofts Power Toys with Fancy Zones is a great pairing.
Are you using it for some kind of work or almost for playing games and watching movies?
@@johhny.d. Why not all the above. That's one of the main perks. May as well hook up a playstation on the side.
@@robertwilsoniii2048 are you using 2-horizontally paired 40" 4K LED TVs?
this was a very impressive and informative video - thanks for your continued useful shares
In a couple of years...
David be like: *How I use a 8K TV as a Monitor for Productivity*
I'll bet in months, not years..
@@armanke13 Haha bet!
He definitely wishes it to be 8k.
The pixel density with 4k at this size isn’t really great.
@@daniel_960_ Definitely true..
couple weeks you mean. In couple year it will be: How I use 4 8k TV as my tabletop.
The narration makes me feeling like I’m drowning while slowly sinking to the bottom of an ocean of anesthesia
Better than ASMR
I just bought the lg for a content creation monitor, and I was literally writing a comment about what software you use. Then I saw this video thanks so much!
@David Zhang
May I ask which application was used for the live wallpaper in the background?
YOOO NOW I CAN FINALLY SPLIT MY VERTICAL SCREEN HORIZONTALLY
lol, exactly what I was happy to find too!! I'm going to try both two and three bands for it - what has worked for you?
@@jamesmacleod8388 tried 3 and 4 bands. The spotify app cant be made smaller then a certain LxW for some dumb reason. Because of that I had to use 3 bands since 4 bands was just to small.
But 4 bands is like the sweet spot I find. So I now use discord and spotify in 2 bands (2x2 bands each) and otherwise I split it like 3/1 1/1/1/1 or 2/2.
@@jamesmacleod8388 2 bands is what I use right now.
this man using a whole tv for a monitor while im using a 13 in laptop 😂😂
Hi David, would you be so kind as to share what the name of that wallpaper engine background is in the video thumbnail?
I clicked on this being skeptical at first but I get it now. Using a huge monitor can be very cool 🙂
U need 20/10 vision for this
Not necessarily, you most likely watching this on a small screen.
Hey, in summer the 42 inch LG C1 OLED will come out. Are you planning on getting a review unit or getting one to replace your LG CX?
Great video. You aware of any Mac based apps for similar functionality?
Magnet for MacOS
Great video, I just learned I can drag a window to multiple sections in power tools. Game changing.
I have been using this screen as a computer monitor for a couple of days. It works, but is far from optimal. The PPI is 0.96, which is far away from the optimal 110 PPI. Everything is very soft. Text is "fuzzy" even with a 60Hz RGB signal, full working days on the screen were painful. The optimal size for 4K at 110 PPI would be 40", to avoid any scaling. I think a good resolution for 48" would be 5120 x 2880, at 122 PPI, and 125% in Windows 10. Burn in is a major issue, who wants to work with hidden icons and hidden taskbar? That is a total productivity killer.
As for the soft/fuzzy text, especially in white backgrounds like Gmail and web pages, do I have some wrong settings? Or you have a similar experience?
Thx!
try game mode on the tv, and tuning windows clear text might help
Hi David!! I just wonder isnt the screen dangerous for your eyes if your gonna sit so close to it. Its still a TV. Just wondering bcs of thinking of buying one but I don't want to hurt my eyes over time. :D
Same as a monitor. Same as a wall actually when your eyes are concerned.
Where did you get your wallpaper from?
how did you get that background? Thanks!
I've tried using a TV before as my computer monitor, but it was very uncomfortable for my eyes. Was this because of the refresh rate or something else? If so, what TV specs would you recommend when using as a computer monitor?
Hi i am a professional photo editor, in order to use a TV comfortable as a computer monitor, you need two settings - characteristics: 4:4:4 chroma subsampling and flicker free, hope that helps.
@@shot69 thank you!
@@NewToneProducer A decent input lag would be desirable as well, but nothing to get crazy about it.
I have similar setup, and after using fanzy zones, the setup I am more happy with is to reduce vertical resolution (so big black bars in the top and button) and to use windowgrid where you move the window in a grid.
Tell me please, do you feel any eye strain from using TV over a regular monitor? Thx.
It varies from person to person. I have LG CX48, using as monitor and I don't feel any strain but my wife does.
@@vkumarnegi thank you for answering.
I have managed since then to find an answer of my own, and that is I need a 'flicker free' screen, or at least 1000Hz PWM Dimming Frequency, for my eyes to function fine while working 12H/day.
Unfortunately one needs to dig for this information and it's usually not in the specs.
Also this better apply to office work, not so much for gaming, that it's different discussion.
Hope this post may help someone out there.
I've been looking to have something that allows me to fullscreen a video (so I don't have to see the rest of the browser) within a portion of the desktop. I think displayfusion has something like this to create virtual desktops split on one monitor.
An add-on on firefox call 'RUclips Full-Windowed' allows this for youtube videos but that's it.
Do you know of anything similar?
I've had all kinds of setups, from ultrawides to 2x, 3x and the ol' every-monitor-I-have-because-why-not? Then I bought a CHEAP 32 inch 4k TV and it's the best monitor experience yet. I have it set up almost exactly the same (Fancy Zones, Groupy) and I don't really miss having a second monitor. This is the cheapest and best upgrade I've ever made, and I wish I'd have done it sooner.
Can you tell me the name of the 32inch 4K tv
Approx how far away are your eyes from the TV? And how deep is your desk?
@@wnose 30" from screen. Desk edge is 20" from the screen. Using Freedom Units because I somehow ended up with a tape measure that doesn't include cm. Also, update: I now use a second monitor turned vertically. Email and Discord live over there full-time.
@@sagaryerguntala909 Oops, I guess it's a 42". Model is un43tu7000fxza.
@@AurelTristen Thank you - not very different from my present laptop setup. Waiting for Black Friday Sales to see what comes up.
I loved that flow!! Looks beautiful and even though im on an ultrawide + qhd, there's a bunch in there I want to do. So I think I might finally move on from displayfusion...
Interesting apps. I wonder if there are any Mac equivalents. I work in DevOps and work on a number of different platforms and OSes. What I have on screen are virtual machines that I switch among depending on what I’m doing. I have the 55” CX. Lots of room to work with a multitude of monitors presented on one pane of glass.
Magnet for MacOS
Where did you find those moving wallpapers?
David: How i use my 4k tv as a monitor.
Also David: why you shouldn’t use a 4k tv as a monitor
gotta make money
that is the exact setup am using for ultrawide monitor, but am using displayfusion instead. i divided my screen into two (2/3 and 1/3). in that way i don't need any shortcuts/keybinds. when i double click, the windows maximises into the exact dimensions of the "virtual screen" that is placed. so in a way my ultrawide monitor acts as if i have two monitors.
Thank you for the ctrl + shift tips on the Powertoys!
Did you ever get headaches or eyestrain? I tried it for two weeks and love it for gaming but not as much for productivity plus got headaches from it.
this keeps me from buying it and wait for a monitor with HDMI 2.1 to also plug a PS5 into it
My mom does not allow me to sit less than 6 feet from the tv.
What are you using for the animated wallpaper? Wallpaper Engine?
I will stick to full hd 😅. Nice video though
hold up. powertoys fancy zones
how are you supposed to read with a monitor that big!
It's pretty easy, plenty of space to read multiple things in quick succession as well. I don't think I'll ever use a monitor smaller than 32" again.
Amazing, I'm using a 55' oled tv as a monitor too, can you tell me your wallpaper's name? I tried last time in wallpaper engine after watching your video, but I didn't find it. And a big thanks to this video, it's really helpful.
Does snap zones work on a Mac/MacBook?
David tnx for sharing your experience. I think 40-43 inches would be sweet spot with 4k resolution at 100% scale for productivity, but 8k in that size range with 200% scale would be ideal even for your case with 48 inches. 4k here makes picture not so smooth as we expect especially in comparison with retina in phones and Apple displays.
Hi everyone
Mi 55inch 4K tv and LG 55UM7600PTA use as monitor
Which one better
Nice vid. Thanks for all the recommendations. Will be getting a 39 inch 16:9 monitor soon and these tips will help a lot.
Gotta say you're really using it more like an ultrawide. It doesn't seem you take advantage of the top and bottom areas much; but like you said, for coders, or when you want to use as an actual TV, those options are available. I want a 4k for a work-from-home setup. However I won't have permissions on the Work Laptop to install the PowerToys, so my options for managing windows will be limited to programs that don't require registry entries. So now my debate is do I want a 43" or 65", or somewhere in-between? Seeing as how I'll be sitting a few inches further away and seeing how most of the productivity will still be in the centre of the screen, I think I may opt for the larger size. But it also depends how lowI can put the TV so my eyes are in line with the centre.
Whats his day job?
Planning on buying the 48in OLED when it trickles down to decent price, these tools will helpful.
Did u end-up getting this monitor?
Thanks for the tips. As always, your videos are informative. Keep it up.
Thank you for this, i was searching for a software to do exactly this. Just got a 4K TV to use as my monitor because i think ultrawide gaming monitors are a waste of money. Big 4K TVs are basically two ultrawide monitors on top of each other 😂😂 only downside would be i wont have variable frame rate or 144hz and low input lag. But i can still melt them at 60hz :V
say no more im doing this
Why you shouldn't use 4K tv as a computer monitor - 4 years ago
Great tips to get Windows as productive on my 48" CX & Pro Display (I quick swap with an ergotron quick detach mount ) as my MacOS set-up via Magnet.
Where did you get those foam speaker / monitor 'stands'? I've been looking for something like that - maybe 5" high for my Vanatoo speakers FOREVER! (loved the video too fyi, sent it to my cousin as well!).
Thanks for the tip with Fancy Zones! Use it but didn't know about the multiple zones feature so far.
Are you jimmy zhangs brother??
It looks like it's time to register Sublime Text
What software are you using to have the animated background with the bubbles? It looks really great!
Search for Wallpaper Engine on Steam.
What does he actually work? His videos all talk about productivity and work, but what does he actually work?
What happened to the acacia table top?
I have set up mine to the same grid as yours.. but I don't know how to set up a window key to expand it for more than one slice.. my apps only stick to the grid.. I want it to expand for 2 or 3 grids sometimes like you did.. how do I achieve that?? A shortcut?
Thanks for the video. I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on the CX for a monitor as well. What are you using to mount it to the desk?
Did u pull that trigger?
Me too. And it is great! 43 inchs is optimal in my view.
"Very Nice"
"Super Good"
"Wow Op"
"Joss Like"
""💞💞"!,🌹🌹
Guess I’m old school. I just adjust by grabbing a corner, moving where I need…no OCD necessary :) (kidding…this is a cool app)
Great information thank you. Windows 10 should include all of this features in an update lol
@@thisiswilson Right I enjoy Windows 10 but Mac Os has better features in some areas.
How do you download and run the project on github, I can never figure that out
Same.
There's a "Releases" panel to the side. github.com/microsoft/PowerToys/releases
Scroll down to the "Assets" section of the latest release, and you should see a few files (a .exe, and a few .zip files).
The .exe file should be named something like: PowerToysSetup-0.31.1-x64.exe
Download the .exe file and run it on your PC.
How about now, after 1 year? I think TV 4k or 8k is cheaper than professional monitor like dell utrasharp. But I am considering about quality when work in long time (how about your eyes), how about Durability when we work at 10 hours a day, 360 day a year? Thank your video so much!
Hey.. Thanks for the video. I got a 43 inch 4k TV which I want to connect as a monitor for my desktop that has Radeon Graphic card with mini DP port. When I connect through miniDP to hdmi cable it gives me only HD resolution. Even when I connect via screencast app also, it gives me only HD resolution not 4k. Would you mind explaining me how you connected your desktop with monitor. Thanks in advance
AMAZING VIDEO!!!!
You are a fucking Genius! You have just showed me the light, oh Productivity God 🙇🏻♂️
Anyone down for some David Zhang ASMR or audible narration?
Hey there, liked your idea to have TV as monitor. I've got one. 55" C2. How do you improve text quality from not being so sharp? Thx in adv.
Wonderful, thank you so much !
Why don't you do gaming? And why you don't like RGB's ??
Hmm, a weird guy...
That was super helpful, thanks!
What is that desk? Pls reply 👀
cringey agony. why are you stuck at 100% font scaling?! I use my TV as I do on a conventional monitor. Of course, the advantage is with video/photo editing.
Can we do this on Macos??? This is super useful tip and video david thanks
You don't need all this garbage low quality apps on macOS.
Just get Moom and you are done. With Moom you can save positions and sizes of all your apps in different or one profile and get all your apps and windows in places with one key press.
4 years ago you made a video saying why you shouldn’t use a 4K monitor
Anyone know is exact pixel sizes for his "4 Up and Center" layout on Fancy Zones? Trying to make my custom zones is hard!
Can you tell us the size and make and model of your 4k tv? Great video!
LG CX 48inch OLED
@David - what’s your webcam solution?
It's not a monitor, it's a mirror.
You see yourself and your surroundings instead of the text on your screen. It strains your eyes.
Unfortunately, in the year 2022, OLED screens are glossy by default.
Thank you so much for enlightening me as to how to organise my Windows! This is such an efficiency tool, especially when used with shorcuts! 🙏
How is the text readability /sharpness ?
This video is very well thought-out and informative. I think I may be in the market for a big 4K monitor now!
i was using a 55" 4K as a PC monitor. the problem is the neck posture when looking at the screen. I noted ur TV is tilted and set sitting low on the desk which I believe makes it easier to use wrt to the posture of the neck. Can I ask how did you set the TV this way? Also the segmentation for the worksheets is truly useful, as I need to move and align worksheets about manually which can be a fuss. Thanks
Does david have another job other tan youtube that he has mentioned?
Next video: Why I need to use eye drops for the rest of my life.
Here is my 2 cents young fella, I got a degree which involves qualified anthropometric data and I can easily tell you that you are wrecking your eyes beyond repair. Number one is that screen is WAY too close to your eyes and WAY too large for to fit anywhere near safe in ergonomics. Also adding the light output, you will need to visit your optometrist much often in the future...
Too bad this program doesn't work with non-Windows windows, like Telegram and some others.
I just installed Groupy. Works fine with Telegram, as a test I dragged Telegram over an Explorer window without any issues. :)
Windows should natively integrate this, awesome. I hate windows 11, but for Windows 10 this would be great
Exist an app that can split the screen also on MacOS?
There is an app called “Magnet” which is a window manager on MacOS. I am unsure of it’s flexibility on bigger displays however. I personally enjoy it on my MacBook Air- it gets the job done and well
That's just crazy, basically turning the TV into an ultra wide screen.
The half whisper is the new vocal crack.
Man I wish I could do this too but my company's laptop won't let me install anything besides their pre-authorized apps
So is fancyzones better alternative to displayfusion?
I'm gonna have to find some Mac and Linux alternatives to these apps as this looks great.
Magnet, Moom, BetterTouchTool, Keyboard Maestro… have been the Mac evangelist for these apps in this thread, look for my other comments if you want more detail :)
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