Heroes Ask Questions And Villains Make Arguments - Jeffrey Alan Schechter
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He keeps repeating "science vs. technology" but I think he misspoke because I think science and technology are in the same family. He meant "Religion vs. Technology", where Jediism is religion.
Should’ve been faith vs technology, but I’d love to actually see a science vs technology theme explored. That’s a pretty nuanced argument and could be a killer story
An interesting idea, but technology is the application of science (you learn about stuff and then figure out how to apply that stuff). But if someone could pull it off that would be cool.
@@the_timinator77 I use my smartphone (technology) every day, but I have very little scientific understanding of it. Technology as application of technology is far more accessible than scientific concepts.
Try LOST the TV series
Heroes ask questions and villains make arguments, do you agree?
No, not really.
I think a traditional 'hero' stands for status quo and stability (protect the family, return to roots, love/magic/faith). These things are 'safe' and 'comforting', even when they're causing suffering.
The traditional 'villain' represents change, progress, instability, fear of the future, risking stability for another world. The villain isn't happy with the status quo and makes change, to which the hero stops the villain, bringing things 'back to normal'.
A 'hero' is a reactionary. The 'villain' is revolutionary.
That's why the villains were always my heroes.
@@TheMightyPika Ah, but sometimes the hero is the one who wants to make progress and the villain is the one standing in the way or actively interfering.
Come to think of it, that's kind of the theme of my current project (which finally has a release date! Woot!)...the hero needs the technology necessary for faster space travel, but the space pirates stole a necessary component while it was on its way to the lab. The bad guys got in the way of progress and the hero needs to make 'em knock it off.
And it's the same thing with non-sci-fi, too. Take a movie like, say, "Footloose", where the modern kids need to take on the stick-in-the-mud fuddie-duddies who are clinging to the past. Sometimes, it's the heroes who are the revolutionaries.
Yes! Absolutely!
First, I see what you did there!
Next, yes yes yes. Because the villain knows he's wrong, he feels the need to justify himself (my favorite is in Monsters Versus Aliens. The villain tries to get sympathy for being an orphan despite the fact that he himself killed everyone on his planet.)
And C, heroes ask questions because they know something is wrong, too. The hero is seeking a solution or an explanation. It's noble (and smart) to seek understanding before exerting yourself, especially if it turns out you have to bash a skull in. The hero has to be shown using every means short of violence to reform the villain or remedy the situation before he resorts to violence. That's how we know he's a hero and not a dirt bag.
I like the simplicity of that model. It allows you to go as deep as necessary or as a writer is willing or able to go under a deadline.
Keeping that in my back pocket.
Asking questions is critical to untrenching assumptions and opening a way forward together into that which we don’t know and and what might be possible.
The greatest minds who ever lived asked questions, and even if they thought they found an answer, it just opened up more questions about what they found.
That's why we've advanced as a species, by not conforming to the answers that just make us content
love it. I analyzed a central character of mine and realize he struggles between two themes: Money and Ethics
You can’t have a villain without a hero or a hero without a villain.
Unless the 'villain' is a situation or a deadline of some sort, and the hero is the one solving the problem, rather than fighting a baddie.
@@BionicDance Is a deadline an antagonist or is it a stake?
@@ojodealfred It's a source of conflict.
In regards to who in the antagonist in this situation... There is a pretty good chance that it's the protagonist themselves. Well, assuming this is a story of man vs self. (Assuming it's an aspect of their own personality that makes the dealine hard to beat.)
Unless the conflict is entirely external, I suppose.
@@joaomarcoscosta4647 the aspect of their personality is not an antagonistic force but a weakness in the protagonist, take for instance your protagonist has to save his lover from a captor who is holding her hostage at the top of a very tall skyscraper and your protagonist has a phobia for elevators and he has lets say less than a minute to do so. Will he use the steps NO! He’ll have to overcome his fears and use the elevator in short the phobia for the elevator is not the antagonist but a flaw in your protagonist. Hope this makes sense.
@@ojodealfred *_Is a deadline an antagonist or is it a stake?_*
I would imagine the stakes are what you have to lose--or to win--so the deadline is, if not the actual antagonist, it's certainly a factor _working against_ the protagonist, which makes it a _kind_ of villain. Of sorts.
Looking at themes as a tool for how it can help write and finish a story is super helpful. Makes it feel less academic and more applicable. Great advice!
Analysis paralysis. I like that. I feel that way when I spend more time scrolling through youtube than actually watching videos.
This was Excellent!!!! Thank you guys!👏
Well said!
I can immediately apply this to my novel. Thanks!
the title just a little miss leading considering the videos is about themes and not hero villain dynamic like the title implies
You might be correct but I think he was presenting hero/villain dynamic as an exercise of theme. Darth Vader abandoned faith and relied more on tech and Luke lean in on his faith to win, even though as he said they are an hybrid of both.
@@avillianchillinskrillian that why i said a little miss leading instead of outright miss leading plus such a title may make it hard to find later
Dude sure likes Star Wars
I get the big picture but the details in Star Wars weren't conveyed so well in my opinion. Technology and science is prominently used by both the Rebels and the Empire in Star Wars. It's part of what makes the universe of Star Wars interesting.
The theme of Star Wars as said by George Lucas and reiterated by Filoni is family. It's because of the love for his son that Vader defeats Emperor Palpatine. Regarding Sith and Jedi, it's peace and tranquility vs raw passion, hatred, and anger. There's also some political theme in there as well considering how the Senate eventually supported and were later thrown out by the Empire.
You flubbed this. Tech vs science? You mean tech vs faith?
Yeah I noticed that too, that's the theme of star wars, the unknown basis of the Jedi's belief in the force through discipline, Vs the pursuit of power by any means with the emperor and the dark side.
My main theme is heaven ***
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And a little off the subject though but isn’t there better (up to date) quality equipment for drawn animation like what Bluth and his team used? For example (science vs technically) the same glass style equipment? Using light the same way to create the glowing effects, color etc? And if you want to make movie (non animated) sequel’s all these years later why not find the same guy that wrote the score for those original movies and even use the same type of Film?
And also older movies had actual tangible objects and paintings of the moon for example, that obviously wasn’t a real moon, forest, mountains but that’s what made those scenes so magical. You can’t replace that effect with something that’s been processed digitally. You’re in a fantasy made of real objects it doesn’t draw you in any better than that (a fantasy made of reality) Actually real objects/art is unbeatable hands down. How bout The Temple of doom when the guy looked like the images on the wallpaper with a movement of the camera (timing) rotation and there he is about to get Indie! Or how bout the 1982 Annie? That movie is slap full of real movie magic in so many ways and a lot of it came from everything being made out of real objects “and” some of the most mind blowing talented kids on the planet 😂 it’s true though and Carol Burnett and the adult cast pretty mind blowing too.
But seriously guys is it all over? Where is all the new talented minds/people at? The power to destroy the minds of the population is insignificant next to the power of the force. Why limit the audience’s imagination?…after all that’s your bread and butter.
a healthy minded population is good for everybody…$? (devils advocate😉)
Has he even _watched_ Star Wars?
Even if we limit ourselves to eps 1-6, that's not even a little bit the theme of Saga, much less if we limit ourselves to ANH.
First of all, it's Rebels vs Empire and Jedi vs Sith, not Jedi vs Empire.
The Empire is controlled by two Force-using Sith Lords, and there are next to no Jedi left...or we're in the Prequels, where the proportions are reversed, but it's no more 'science vs technology' or even 'faith versus technology' if you prefer, either way. It's good vs evil, freedom vs conquest, hate vs love, but it's by no means 'science vs technology'.
Not even Luke's journey is about that; it's him dealing with his growing powers and his family legacy...and what that means for who he is or who he will become. His story is about recognizing and not repeating his father's mistakes, and redeeming his father.
"Vader's faith let him down"...? The man who Force-choked a guy while saying, "I find your lack of faith disturbing," feels let down by faith?
Dude. C'mon.
And the Death Star isn't even his invention; it's Governor Tarkin's baby.
Vader even doubts its utility: "Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed; the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force," he said.
@@BionicDance I was just thinking that myself but this guy doesn't understand theme at all so its not surprising that he missed the whole point
Interesting; he has answers but does not seem to allow time for questions. Thanks; but no thanks.