Yeah, but the team still bottom of the barrel. Is it so hard to understand; DPOY, MVP and other accolades, should be awarded to players whose impact is reflected in WINNING. Individual stats with no results are empty stats.
@@rickyricardo2006 But again, with him on the floor they are the 4th defensive team in the league. That's just crazy for a team with 15 wins. And even crazier his team is like 24th defensive team when he's not on the floor.. It says so much about him defensively
@@HesiPullUpJimbo Don’t get me wrong, wemby is out of this world. But his award should be an All defensive team. The DPYO is for the players whose impact is seen in winning.
@@stevengonzales8826He already IS , that’s what some very few people have been trying to say … that is why he is so great !! That Boy (because it is what he was) when he entered the league Came in as the Best Defender in the NBA his FIRST GAME OF HIS FIRST YEAR. No one has ever done that ! This is grown men , this is Giannis, Jokic , Lebron, KD , Giants! (that’s how they’ve always been) and he is making them look small and defending on them like is equal to them when they are in that situation… This all started on his first game!! Since then he has just gotten more comfortable and obliterated the record of the past defensive player of the year Winners ! And he still has 6 or so games left …
This is my thought on the award, best single defensive player in the league. Rn without a doubt it’s Vic, the way he can guard the peremiter with his length is incredible
@@louiss2441he was literally saying that Wemby doesn't deserve the award d a few weeks ago because of the teams record/defensive rating as a whole just 2 weeks ago.
@@williamayotte3847 Spurs rank 17th overall when Wemby plays and fall down to 25th when he sits. Woves rank 1st when Gobert plays and 3rd when he sits. Wemby's impact is far greater than Gobert's, and Victor's teammates are horrible defenders while the Wolves have great defenders all around their team regardless of Gobert is playing or not
Respect to Draymond for speaking the truth. It would be embarrassing to the league if they pretend anyone else is the DPOTY. It's plain to see Wemby affects the game defensively like no other.
4th-ranked defense when Wemby is on the court; 28th-ranked defense when he's not. also, look at the Spurs' record and performance the 2nd half of this season versus the 1st half. as Wemby has improved, the team has improved as they learn to play through him.
Couldn't agree more on the Braun "missed" layup. Anybody but Wemby there, that's a layup, but this dude will block it from the free throw line. Lucky MPJ was there to bail him out with a 3.
This channel gonna blow. I love the perspective from green after he plays the game I watched. His wemby take is awesome to here from his view. Subscribed to the channel. Keep it up 👍
He was actually aware of the backlash and addressed it on the podcast, and he even doubled down on the spurs' bad defensive rating. He only changed his mind after his game against wemby the other day.
A solid wing defender, a solid PG with good court vision / lobbing capability, some solid shooters and a bench that doesn't hemorrhage points when he's off the floor and they're winning multiple multiple championships
I mean.....then again they could come up with a (DTOY)defensive team of the year award, but until then DPOY means just that,...a single person, and Wemby Is that dude!!! Spurs4Life baby!!! 😎🤟💕💯
LOL, also Wemby has just continued to get better this season. He took a subtle shot at Rudy for being a guy who just gets blocks. Rudy bball IQ is already lower than Wemby's.
No GSW Fan, no Dray or Spurs fan but daaammmnn Spurs so lucky that I even can’t understand it. Getting to pick Timmy and this scary MoFo is insane! He’s really a special young man!
I am delighted to subscribe to you because the big man from michigan state that was the only big man and played like a true big man and to see you get to a system that was perfect and it wouldn't have happen without you. And to see you transition to the league and be a big man is lovely to see man just dont hurt nobody. I salute you big man.
@@duncanjoiner7319 That's easy to say in retrospect to save face since Gobert didn't win it. Draymond likely doesn't want Gobert to have the highest career DPOY wins.
Preach Dray! I think both Wemby and Gobert can be DPOY. The French team is gonna be tough to beat at the Olympics especially since there is no way the Sixers will let Embiid compete this summer after his injury.
Yes I hope, with Batum for his last compétition, Coulibaly, and all others, and our Vice-wold champions U19.. I think it will be enormous..But danger wirh the Serbian Team and Greeks too perrhaps. ❤
The team record rule is stupid. They literally draft the #1 draft pick to the worst team in the league, no shit he has a bad record. A rookie can only do so much for a bottom record team. With this nonsense, a #1 draft pick will never be able to win these rewards. Thats completely unfair to them.
if you look at the stats its almost impossible for wemby to do anything more to impact the team it has to be taken into account that his team is playing like actual shit without him so when he can put up the performances hes doing currently without assistance from his team to play off him half the time maybe just maybe the individual award of DPOY should take Individual stats depending on the circumstances into account
Much love to draymond, wemby IS the BEST defender in the league. Team record matters but at what point does it matter for an individual award. I personally think they don’t want to give him the award bc winning Roty and dpoy is insane.
Draymond describing what I've been saying all year. Players do literal u-turns when Wemby is lurking. Wemby broke up a 2 on 1 vs Memphis just by being near, with both Memphis players making u-turns in the lane because of Wemby.
Can’t remember the video but I saw an interview of chuck on Tim Duncan. He said he only had better stats than Duncan because he was the best in a bad team and that’s why he himself admitted he wasn’t as good as Duncan was. Same here yes Wembanyama has the edge on stat but he is basically having more opportunities to show off, on the other hand Rudy is putting those stats with Mc Daniels being an elite defender too. That’s why team succes should be taken into account : when the whole team defends it is much harder to stand out than when you are the only defender on your team
I knew as soon as draymond played against wemby he was gonna change his narrative cause anyone who watch wemby defense in game can see it's elite and every team in the nba is afraid of scoring in the paint that they have to change gameplans just to not get blocked or stopped against wemby.
Wemby should have been on that All-Star team regardless if he's only a rookie, but they didn't let him in. He should win the DPOY, and if they still wouldn't let him have it, there's gonna be a very big problem.
Draymond and JJ Reddick are highly educated about NBA and best talk show hosts. When Draymond retired I hope to see him in the ESPN or big network as analyst or talk show host.
I think an interesting angle on this reward would be is what Wemby did this season unique enough to break past deciding factors of the reward. Every reward has had this happen, where it be some MVP like Russ not having the best team record but still winning MVP or like Alvin Robertson winning DPOY in 1985-86 on SAS with a 35-47 record and the team defense being 17th out of 23. It DID happen. Is Wemby’s season unique enough to break the mold?
Mvp is also individual but if you drop 40 every game and still lose every game are you really the MVP? Since you lack the skill of winning, be clutch, be a teamplayer etc
Hey Dreymond, Iʻve changed my mind on you as well. I hope you stay on the Alien throughout his journey, critique him to the bone. We will listen, success to your channel indeed.
if there would be a stat name for what wemby is doing, it should be called EVICT. wemby would lead the nba in evicts. also, it's so fitting for him. that would he be called EVICTOR WEMBANYAMA.
ouhhhh thats good name, I've been advocating for Wemby's nickname to be The Mantis, cause he strikes fear in his opponent hearts with his long arms, so guys don't even try to score around him. Now Evictor The Mantis sounds too good !
One thing I will never get is how winning matters the most in DPOY awards more than any other award. Just look at the all-time winners, I can't recall a time where a player below top 4/5 seed has not won. It is to the point now where even MVP voting does not even care for team records as much - just witness Jokic won MVP as a 6 seed, Westbrook won MVP as a 6 seed, and now possibly (although slim) Luka Doncic as a 5/6 seed. DPOY's absurdly high factoring of winning astounds me, especially when it takes accounting winning much further than an MVP award. I'm fine with factoring winning heavily for awards with the face-name keyword "valuable" within them, but for awards recognized by "...player/rookie/man/coach of the year", IMO it should just go the best, regardless of team record. Just look at the NFL criteria for instance - it goes to the man whos done the best visual and statistical combined job at something. NBA should do same, because some of these talking heads cluster narratives way too hard for these awards.
Team records should matter to a degree, and being one of the worst teams in the league should disqualify. Not that it’s 100% his fault, but it’s his team, he’s the best player on the team so he has to take responsibility. The best defense player, as much as I hate it, is still Gobert. He anchors one of the best defense in wolves and they have one of the best team this season. So he should be awarded for the achievement.
@@matthewwilliams4168 Rookie isn’t a thing lol, he’s the starter with the highest usage rate on his team, so therefore he shares the most praise or blame when they win or lose, just being logical here. Gotta have it both ways, when they win and he’s playing great defense, then he should be contending for DPOY, but not now when he’s not even top 5 in DWS.
@@sganet_ being a rookie isn't a thing? 😂 the media have put him on pedestal that he isn't ready for yet! Wemby will finish second in DPOY and will be rookie of year
Wow I have almost never agreed with dray on anything from his pod cast ! I really hope wemby get DPOY . He deserves it the most! Who cares of the spurs are a bad team.
Team record matters but it shouldn't. Top 5 D with Vic on the floor, bottom 5 without him. That's says enough for me for an individual award.
Yeah, but the team still bottom of the barrel. Is it so hard to understand; DPOY, MVP and other accolades, should be awarded to players whose impact is reflected in WINNING.
Individual stats with no results are empty stats.
@@rickyricardo2006 But again, with him on the floor they are the 4th defensive team in the league. That's just crazy for a team with 15 wins. And even crazier his team is like 24th defensive team when he's not on the floor.. It says so much about him defensively
@@rickyricardo2006 He just gave you the on and off stats. Do you want him to play all 48 minutes like Wilt?
@@HesiPullUpJimbo Don’t get me wrong, wemby is out of this world. But his award should be an All defensive team. The DPYO is for the players whose impact is seen in winning.
I completely agree
Welcome to the party Dray. Record aside, he is simply the best and most impactful defender this season =‘DPOY.
Wemby is gonna be the best defender
@@stevengonzales8826He already IS , that’s what some very few people have been trying to say … that is why he is so great !!
That Boy (because it is what he was) when he entered the league Came in as the Best Defender in the NBA his FIRST GAME OF HIS FIRST YEAR. No one has ever done that !
This is grown men , this is Giannis, Jokic , Lebron, KD , Giants! (that’s how they’ve always been) and he is making them look small and defending on them like is equal to them when they are in that situation…
This all started on his first game!! Since then he has just gotten more comfortable and obliterated the record of the past defensive player of the year Winners ! And he still has 6 or so games left …
Technically he’s the most improved player over the year too.
This is my thought on the award, best single defensive player in the league.
Rn without a doubt it’s Vic, the way he can guard the peremiter with his length is incredible
He should be ROY and DPOY.
Wemby is so fun to watch. Really hoping the Spurs become great again with him. And when Draymond praises you, that tells me something
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Yes, it's a sign.. ❤
Remember guys, "Team" record and "Team" performance changes the narrative in winning an "Individual" award.
he just doesn't want Rudy to get DPOY. Green is a generational hater.
@@louiss2441he was literally saying that Wemby doesn't deserve the award d a few weeks ago because of the teams record/defensive rating as a whole just 2 weeks ago.
How much better is the team's defensive win/shares when wemby plays compared to when he doesn't.. that all that should matter
@@williamayotte3847 Spurs rank 17th overall when Wemby plays and fall down to 25th when he sits. Woves rank 1st when Gobert plays and 3rd when he sits. Wemby's impact is far greater than Gobert's, and Victor's teammates are horrible defenders while the Wolves have great defenders all around their team regardless of Gobert is playing or not
@@Sunking210 4th to 5th for spurs acc
He’s clearly the best defender in the league definitely should win the award regardless of record it’s mot the mvp award.
If Wemby's blocks stats goes down it only means players just stop attempting to shoot the ball when he's around.
Could say the same for a 4 times dopy around for years right ?
@@mordecai4348you should should ask nikola Jokic who the dpoy is he went 18-32 against wemby and went 16-20 with gobert. 😂😂😂
9/13 last night.
😂😂😂
Respect to Draymond for speaking the truth. It would be embarrassing to the league if they pretend anyone else is the DPOTY. It's plain to see Wemby affects the game defensively like no other.
Of course Wemby is DPOY 🔥
So much respect for guys who have the maturity and humility to change their minds! Shout out to you Draymond! 👏🏻
we're still waiting that for his behavior. ;)
4th-ranked defense when Wemby is on the court; 28th-ranked defense when he's not. also, look at the Spurs' record and performance the 2nd half of this season versus the 1st half. as Wemby has improved, the team has improved as they learn to play through him.
Couldn't agree more on the Braun "missed" layup. Anybody but Wemby there, that's a layup, but this dude will block it from the free throw line. Lucky MPJ was there to bail him out with a 3.
Defensive “Player” of the year we got a top 3 defense in the league when he’s on the court and the worst when he’s off
This channel gonna blow. I love the perspective from green after he plays the game I watched. His wemby take is awesome to here from his view. Subscribed to the channel. Keep it up 👍
Not yet, the production is incomparable to jj's or pg's
Draymond saw the backlash😂
He was actually aware of the backlash and addressed it on the podcast, and he even doubled down on the spurs' bad defensive rating. He only changed his mind after his game against wemby the other day.
Respect for changing your mind. That's rare in todays media. Wemby is DPOY
Respect and love ❤️ that he got the jersey for his kid ❤️💯🙌
9 blocks against Denver in mile high, kid is crazy. He should be DPOY
A solid wing defender, a solid PG with good court vision / lobbing capability, some solid shooters and a bench that doesn't hemorrhage points when he's off the floor and they're winning multiple multiple championships
Draymond with the Spurs jersey in his house for the next 15 years, makes me smile
man speaking truth
I mean.....then again they could come up with a (DTOY)defensive team of the year award, but until then DPOY means just that,...a single person, and Wemby Is that dude!!! Spurs4Life baby!!! 😎🤟💕💯
I'm a Spurs fan, Wemby fan, and I think he should win DPOY but we all know Draymond is starting this campaign because he doesn't want Rudy to win DPOy
LOL, also Wemby has just continued to get better this season. He took a subtle shot at Rudy for being a guy who just gets blocks. Rudy bball IQ is already lower than Wemby's.
I don't know, I listen to Timberwolves fans and they love Gobert. While Anthony Edwards gets all the media attention, the fans appreciate Gobert.
Yes of course he hates Rudy. Wemby is great but Rudy is an elite defender in a very good team with the best defensive record in the league
But he hasn't been supporting Wemby untill they played only two days ago
No GSW Fan, no Dray or Spurs fan but daaammmnn Spurs so lucky that I even can’t understand it. Getting to pick Timmy and this scary MoFo is insane! He’s really a special young man!
Respect to you Dray for the new perspective. Appreciated both takes.
The kid is amazing fr . 👽👽👽
I am delighted to subscribe to you because the big man from michigan state that was the only big man and played like a true big man and to see you get to a system that was perfect and it wouldn't have happen without you. And to see you transition to the league and be a big man is lovely to see man just dont hurt nobody. I salute you big man.
It's Defensive PLAYER Of the Year, not Defensive TEAM Of the Year. Give him the DPOY!!! 🛸👽
Like MVP voting has changed from 'Best player of Best team.' to real MVP itself. DPOY voting should be changed too. It's individual award.
They should have a DTeamOY award so that its clear.
@@hsteoh77I agree with this. Defensive Player of the Year and Defensive Team of the Year. That would help clear up this convoluted narrative
if mvp was real mvp regardless of team and purely an individual award luka would be clear mvp.
Don't be fooled, Draymond just doesn't want Gobert to win one more dpoy 😂
But he said Rudy should win the last time lol
@@duncanjoiner7319 That's easy to say in retrospect to save face since Gobert didn't win it. Draymond likely doesn't want Gobert to have the highest career DPOY wins.
😂 - facts! But f- Golbert. League has robbed Dray of DPOY a few times and gave em to Golbert over the past couple years
I think you need to go back and look at Wemby stats
He just know wen it counts most gobert a liability
Draymond is doing this podcast only to prevent Gobert from getting a 3rd DPOY award
Being a top defensive player...u should know a lot of it is effort...
A young player as good as Wemby playing with that effort.....is refreshing
Also the nba has a HUGE problem with that effort n defense. They should REWARD DEFENSE!
I agree. Victor is DPOY
Wemby should win DPOY and ROY
Preach Dray! I think both Wemby and Gobert can be DPOY. The French team is gonna be tough to beat at the Olympics especially since there is no way the Sixers will let Embiid compete this summer after his injury.
Yes I hope, with Batum for his last compétition, Coulibaly, and all others, and our Vice-wold champions U19.. I think it will be enormous..But danger wirh the Serbian Team and Greeks too perrhaps.
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Dray is always on point
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The team record rule is stupid. They literally draft the #1 draft pick to the worst team in the league, no shit he has a bad record. A rookie can only do so much for a bottom record team. With this nonsense, a #1 draft pick will never be able to win these rewards. Thats completely unfair to them.
Finally dray talking sense
I appreciate the change of heart Dray. Wemby can’t overcome how bad his team is because no one could
if you look at the stats its almost impossible for wemby to do anything more to impact the team it has to be taken into account that his team is playing like actual shit without him so when he can put up the performances hes doing currently without assistance from his team to play off him half the time maybe just maybe the individual award of DPOY should take Individual stats depending on the circumstances into account
YOU STEPH AND CLAY MAN KEEP YOU THREE TOGETHER IF THAT BREAKS UP I'LL BE VERY UPSET GOTTA HAVE MY THREE ALWAYS TOGETHER
Dammit Draymond I cant hate you if you keep sending props to my boy Wemby and Pop……….Subscribed.
Loved this video
Subscribed!
Players should be contractually Obligated to host a podcast😂 I need more Player podcasts.
Much love to draymond, wemby IS the BEST defender in the league. Team record matters but at what point does it matter for an individual award. I personally think they don’t want to give him the award bc winning Roty and dpoy is insane.
This is from a real one.
As bad as the spurs are, i think wemby is in a situation with pop. It also helps that the kid seems to have a great attitude.
It's Defensive PLAYER of the Year. Otherwise change the name of the Award to Defensive TEAM of the Year.
Draymond for president!
I agree
Draymond describing what I've been saying all year. Players do literal u-turns when Wemby is lurking. Wemby broke up a 2 on 1 vs Memphis just by being near, with both Memphis players making u-turns in the lane because of Wemby.
Wemby also played around 26mins a game for like 50-60% of the season...
Can’t remember the video but I saw an interview of chuck on Tim Duncan.
He said he only had better stats than Duncan because he was the best in a bad team and that’s why he himself admitted he wasn’t as good as Duncan was.
Same here yes Wembanyama has the edge on stat but he is basically having more opportunities to show off, on the other hand Rudy is putting those stats with Mc Daniels being an elite defender too.
That’s why team succes should be taken into account : when the whole team defends it is much harder to stand out than when you are the only defender on your team
I knew as soon as draymond played against wemby he was gonna change his narrative cause anyone who watch wemby defense in game can see it's elite and every team in the nba is afraid of scoring in the paint that they have to change gameplans just to not get blocked or stopped against wemby.
its defensive PLAYER of the year.. not defensive TEAM of the year
The Jeremy Sochan disrespect ouch!
MY DAWG DG I ROCK WITH YOU AND THE WARRIORS MY
#1 TEAM
I didn't know you were this wise.. bigup bigman
Vic DPOY 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Wemby should have been on that All-Star team regardless if he's only a rookie, but they didn't let him in. He should win the DPOY, and if they still wouldn't let him have it, there's gonna be a very big problem.
It's defensive PLAYER of the year, not, defensive TEAM of the year.
Plus this mf'r just hates rudy 😂
Draymond and JJ Reddick are highly educated about NBA and best talk show hosts. When Draymond retired I hope to see him in the ESPN or big network as analyst or talk show host.
I think an interesting angle on this reward would be is what Wemby did this season unique enough to break past deciding factors of the reward. Every reward has had this happen, where it be some MVP like Russ not having the best team record but still winning MVP or like Alvin Robertson winning DPOY in 1985-86 on SAS with a 35-47 record and the team defense being 17th out of 23. It DID happen. Is Wemby’s season unique enough to break the mold?
Depends on how you measure team records such as with him and without him comparison…
Wemby deserves it
Team dont matter on a individual award. Im sorry. But keep up the solid takes Dray. 💪🏾💯
Mvp is also individual but if you drop 40 every game and still lose every game are you really the MVP?
Since you lack the skill of winning, be clutch, be a teamplayer etc
@jonaske8049 if your teammates suck, they suck.. but you're great. 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Hey Dreymond, Iʻve changed my mind on you as well. I hope
you stay on the Alien throughout his journey, critique him to
the bone. We will listen, success to your channel indeed.
Great takes DG!
And a better move on the change of mind on DPOY. Not only its genius, but few years from now, you might regret if you did not😅!
if there would be a stat name for what wemby is doing, it should be called EVICT. wemby would lead the nba in evicts. also, it's so fitting for him. that would he be called EVICTOR WEMBANYAMA.
Excellent !!!
ouhhhh thats good name, I've been advocating for Wemby's nickname to be The Mantis, cause he strikes fear in his opponent hearts with his long arms, so guys don't even try to score around him. Now Evictor The Mantis sounds too good !
Jalen Suggs is the defensive player of the year
Wemby 🎉
Team record/team defense is one of the factors. ONE.
Wemby wins at every other metric.
Love it Dre
Agreed Wemby as DPOY
THEY should see the diffensive rating with/without Wemby on the floor and compare it to Gobert and Davis.
Draymond and Steph to the Spurs 🤞
Draymond you got to get wembenyama to the goldenstate warriors the missing piece
It's an individual award not a team award wemby is the DPOY
One thing I will never get is how winning matters the most in DPOY awards more than any other award. Just look at the all-time winners, I can't recall a time where a player below top 4/5 seed has not won. It is to the point now where even MVP voting does not even care for team records as much - just witness Jokic won MVP as a 6 seed, Westbrook won MVP as a 6 seed, and now possibly (although slim) Luka Doncic as a 5/6 seed. DPOY's absurdly high factoring of winning astounds me, especially when it takes accounting winning much further than an MVP award. I'm fine with factoring winning heavily for awards with the face-name keyword "valuable" within them, but for awards recognized by "...player/rookie/man/coach of the year", IMO it should just go the best, regardless of team record. Just look at the NFL criteria for instance - it goes to the man whos done the best visual and statistical combined job at something. NBA should do same, because some of these talking heads cluster narratives way too hard for these awards.
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Draymond: I need to create a son in that lab.
DJ: I don't like Wemby anymore
I know you see me dray😂 now that marvel sees u you’ll get more subscribers
team record matters when you’re on the fence about who should get the award. it’s a no brainer wemby is the best defender in the league. easily.
Fun Fact when he's playing the team is number one in defense when he's not playing they are in last place
Dpoy last year was Jaren Jackson. Team record was 27 w 55 losses. Team record doesn't matter
Team records should matter to a degree, and being one of the worst teams in the league should disqualify. Not that it’s 100% his fault, but it’s his team, he’s the best player on the team so he has to take responsibility. The best defense player, as much as I hate it, is still Gobert. He anchors one of the best defense in wolves and they have one of the best team this season. So he should be awarded for the achievement.
How can it be his responsibility when he's a rookie 😂
@@matthewwilliams4168 Rookie isn’t a thing lol, he’s the starter with the highest usage rate on his team, so therefore he shares the most praise or blame when they win or lose, just being logical here. Gotta have it both ways, when they win and he’s playing great defense, then he should be contending for DPOY, but not now when he’s not even top 5 in DWS.
@@sganet_ being a rookie isn't a thing? 😂 the media have put him on pedestal that he isn't ready for yet! Wemby will finish second in DPOY and will be rookie of year
People keep saying he hates Rudy when his last video he literally said Rudy should win
Wow I have almost never agreed with dray on anything from his pod cast ! I really hope wemby get DPOY . He deserves it the most! Who cares of the spurs are a bad team.
Defensive PLAYER of the year should mean just that....currently it does not.
Its crazy this will be Wembys worst defense ever
FACTS!
Could Draymond be kind of greasing the wheels to go to San Antonio if things go south this off season?
breh he's signed for 4 years, he literally retiring in SF, his kids grew up here
Saying stupid things consistently and then correcting one or another won’t suffice to restore credibility. I like Draymond when he is genuine…
Wemby deserves DPOY
Salty donkey doesn’t want big Ruuuu to have the most DPOY of all time.
Dray just dont want Rudy to win again lmaoo, but Wemby should win regardless!!
Draymond gonna support anyone going against Rudy Gobert
Wait. If you changed your mind then you didn't lie. You spoke your mind then, and you speak your mind now. That's the idea of changing one's mind :)
I for once agree with draymond