Sylvia Loch - On The Bit Dressage

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  • Опубликовано: 26 ноя 2009
  • Excerpt from Sylvia Loch's DVD - On The Bit. This was recorded in 2001 and explains the correct training of the horse without force or gadgets.
    This Video clip also explains the preparation of the horse for all collected work, starting with a basic understanding of contact and its effect on the horse's hindend.
    Sylvia has always trained her horses to the highest levels without the necessity to force their heads behind the vertical and cannot understand why Rollkur is ever used.
    Please also see www.classicalriding.co.uk for more information.
    Now available to buy from www.classicalseat.co.uk under the title Perfect Lateralls.
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Комментарии • 35

  • @rideinrain
    @rideinrain 13 лет назад +1

    Very informative and easy to understand. Thanks for the insight with the diagrams!

  • @baskaseto
    @baskaseto 10 лет назад

    Very nicely done!

  • @BehindDistrict12
    @BehindDistrict12 12 лет назад +3

    Dang, I wish I could draw like that...

  • @LishesPrincess
    @LishesPrincess 11 лет назад +2

    all spanish horses like Espada here. i wouldn't judge sylvia's riding or how she is riding espada here in this video because untill you have sat in the saddle of a top trained classical dressage horse, you have no idea how difficult it is to ride them. and i know all this because i have worked for sylvia and had the pleasure of riding her stallion Prazor which was very difficult because of the sensetivie of your hand, body and leg position

  • @HorseyHelen1982
    @HorseyHelen1982 11 лет назад

    How can anyone dislike this?!? Oh i know, they've had incorrect training! Easily done.

  • @Maxinegee1
    @Maxinegee1 12 лет назад

    I learnt a lot !!!

  • @silverkitty2503
    @silverkitty2503 5 лет назад

    This woman knows her shit.

  • @bewildered75
    @bewildered75 12 лет назад +2

    Not seeing this horse backing off at all, the length of rein and light contact allows the horse to move forwards freely people confuse a hard rigid contact on a short rein with being on the bit This horse was willing, balanced, relaxed and happy and its a riding style we should be moving back too and away from tense over collected animals

  • @danielthomas3333
    @danielthomas3333 5 лет назад

    There is much confusion about the use of bits. It involves the tongue and hyoid apparatus. The hyoid is connected to the sternum and other structures in the shoulder. This enables the horse to transfer weight to the hind quarters and bend the joints of the hind quarters.
    This is the basis of all classical training and is well tested by a couple of centuries of experience and is well documented in the literature.
    I encourage you to study Gymnazium of the Horse by Gustav Steinbrecht.
    When people show finished horses without a bit, they have usually been trained in a bit in their formative training

  • @bewildered75
    @bewildered75 12 лет назад +1

    Its possible to have a short rein and a still have a light contact The difference is all in your hands and position Its easier on a horse to have a steady light contact on a shorter rein for jumping than a rider on a long flapping rein that will suddenly jab him in the mouth if he makes a wrong move

  • @EpicBlueSpikes
    @EpicBlueSpikes 12 лет назад +1

    a horse that has a hollowed back will almost resist a contact meaning he will retreat his head toalmost avoid thecontact, a round back will make the rider feel tall likewise the horse, only aproud and tall horse will seek the contact with the bit and look relaxed doing so.

  • @o0Affinity0o
    @o0Affinity0o 12 лет назад

    I am wondering, my English riding instructor always tells me I need to have shorter reins and a strong contact, but I prefer the feeling of longer reins and light contact, and doesn't light contact promote a softer mouth? I am starting jumping, so strong or light contact? My horse tends to throw her head down quite a bit and shirk the reins out of my hands as well.

  • @MurMyrrh
    @MurMyrrh 14 лет назад +1

    I guess people aren't used to seeing a horse in training, or to seeing horses being worked, in a 'classical' way. If all horses started perfectly finished and supple there would be no debate here.
    The horse in the video is generally in a correct posture, could he be less stiff? Sure. Could he be under himself more? Sure. That's the point of the training, to work with the horse to improve those things.
    I applaud Sylvia for attempting to educate, despite the willful ignorance.

    • @thisirishcobcan
      @thisirishcobcan 3 года назад

      I love this explanation. When watching videos I always want to see horses that are in training - not the end product.

  • @1010nicole1010
    @1010nicole1010 12 лет назад +1

    well seen! i could not see anything good in the riding. sorry. and the video is without force or gadgets? but ridden with spurs and whip...

  • @xoSiNgInGiNtHeRaInox
    @xoSiNgInGiNtHeRaInox 11 лет назад

    i still don't know how to train this. theoretically what she said is great, but in practice how can the hind end be engaged and flow through to the hands? specific examples would be great. thanks

    • @thisirishcobcan
      @thisirishcobcan 3 года назад

      By lots and lots of transitions. Also by riding the horse forward I.e changing from working trot, to medium trot, back to working trot etc. Same with canter.

  • @keithbartlam4733
    @keithbartlam4733 11 лет назад

    If BD says that the horse should be accepting of the bridle, why cant I compete in a bridle without a bit such as the Dr Cook??

  • @DJBelbe
    @DJBelbe 14 лет назад

    Great video! love the first half of the explanation. When she starts to explain in sketch I do think it's not very clear phisiologically nor anatomically speaking. Philippe Karl does a much better explanation of that part, can anyone ask him to do a lil video available for free including that part? it would do the world a great favour.

  • @wisepati123
    @wisepati123 7 лет назад

    Why the constant spurring?

    • @sonseere10
      @sonseere10 7 лет назад

      Selfishness and ignorance.

  • @keithbartlam4733
    @keithbartlam4733 11 лет назад +1

    So why is a bit necessary at all???? I can get all my horses to lift their backs and collect up without a bit by using my legs and seat only and achieve a soft contact through the rein. The only "point" of communication with a horse's front end is therefore with the nose band, which is a more effective means, as the pain of the bit is removed. Uta Graff on Le Noir demonstrates this to perfection on U Tube if you need any inspiration or proof of how effective a Dr Cook Bitless bridle is.

    • @sonseere10
      @sonseere10 7 лет назад

      It is not necessary. Bits are used by people who do not know how to ride. Teach yourself and your horse to ride in a rope halter.

    • @samantha5825
      @samantha5825 7 лет назад +5

      @sonseere10
      Because I'm sure you can ride better than everybody else.....
      Advocating for bitless is fine, but you make yourself sound just as ignorant as you condemn others for being, when you say you don't know how to ride unless you ride bitless.
      Riding isn't about the equipment, it's about feel, and the aids. Good riding can be achieved with or without the bit.

    • @thisirishcobcan
      @thisirishcobcan 3 года назад +1

      @@samantha5825 exactly! Bitless bridles still use pressure. It just goes somewhere else. Some horses like the deviated pressure. Some don’t. Totally agree with you.

  • @poppysmummy11
    @poppysmummy11 12 лет назад

    The horse wan't engaged at all it was backing off. I think that horse needed pushed into the bridle a bit more. If it was going forward then it would be more likely to relax into the contact. For this though the contact needs to be stable/secure. Anyone agree?

  • @danielthomas6739
    @danielthomas6739 6 лет назад +1

    Not impressed with her riding. I’m not sure what she is saying. I have one of her books and quite frankly she doesn’t have a good grasp of the bending of the hind legs. It’s strange that she has published as much as she has, when you consider that there are some significant books out there

  • @GPonyyyy
    @GPonyyyy 14 лет назад

    hahaha what a load of rubbish, that poor horse with that lady bobbling around on its tense hollow back, looks like it needs a good stretch to me!

  • @sonseere10
    @sonseere10 7 лет назад

    Such ignorance. Bits are bad for horses. Horses will be calmer and more responsive with smoother transitions by properly using a rope halter.