Did Jews Always Support Israel? | Big Jewish Ideas | Unpacked
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- In the late 1800s, rising antisemitism had people concerned that Judaism would disappear entirely. Two very different solutions arose in an attempt to solve this crisis: Reform Judaism and Zionism.
Reform Judaism aimed to emphasize more universal Jewish values rather than rituals in an attempt to better integrate with non-Jews. Zionism focused on the desire for Jews to re-enter the world stage as their own people in a Jewish state.
Eventually, after the horrors of the Holocaust, the Reform movement recognized the need for Zionism and moved to support it. Today, Jews both in and out of Israel have different and often polar opposite views about how to be Jewish, yet they remain part of the same peoplehood focused on Jewish continuity.
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00:00 Intro
00:28 Antisemitism in late 1800s Europe
00:53 Integration or Nationalism?
01:20 Reform Judaism: universal Jewish values, not Jewish rituals or nationhood
01:56 The Pittsburgh Platform
02:24 Zionism: Jewish nationhood and nation-state
02:56 Shifts in Reform Judaism toward Zionism: The Columbus Platform
03:54 Evolutions of Jewish life in America and Palestine
04:06 Zionists: self-autonomy and bestowers of values to the world
04:47 American Jewry: integration and adoption of other cultures
05:13 What does it mean to be Jewish in Israel?
06:07 What does it mean to be Jewish in the Diaspora?
06:43 Learning from one another
07:30 Outro
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#Reform #Judaism #Zionism
5 Seconds in and there’s a mistake. Do you mean political Zionism started around the same time? Because you might want to clarify because Zionism is actually as old as the Jewish people. It definitely did not start the same time as the reform movement.
Zionism is a modern atheist nationalist movement and has no connection to Judaism.
Good point, people forget its part of the liturgy to Rosh HaShana.
If I forget you Jerusalem...
@@talbenavraham1478 It's Psalms, not liturgy to Rosh Hashana. But then again, you were probably educated in the ways of atheist Zionism, so how would you know.
@@chatisawasteoftime Ever davened Rosh HaShana?
@@chatisawasteoftime It's in both. The concept is also in our daily prayers, brachos achronos, Pesach, and more. No need for attacks. We have no idea what kind of environment or shul she's from.
Every Reform congregation I’ve ever been to or seen has an Israeli flag, including my own. Zionism is alive and well in the Reform movement.
Reform Judaism developed and changed A LOT with time.
At its beginning it was intrinsically anti-Zionist (they even took off the Sidur every remembrance of Jerusalem, Zion, Land of Israel....), but with time it changed and became more and more Zionist (as most Reform synagogues are today).
That may be the case today, but the history of the Reform movement is fraught with avoidance of the Mainstream Jewish ideal. From the American Reform's antipathy to the fate of the Orthodox during the Holocaust, to rejection of the territorial gains in '67 the Reform historically have always been skeptical, if not outright opposed, to the leading Jewish authority's ideation on its own destiny.
@@MrCGross2012 there are about 30 kinda Jews. What separates them is language. Hebrew is extinct & Yiddish is the Devil's tongue. 🖤😎🇺🇲🇵🇸
White ain't Semite.
Bang, Bang.
This video is very centered on the ashkenazi Jewish historical experience. The American community of Sephardim receive little to no attention. The timeline heavily focuses on Eastern European Jewish migration.
A consequence of the framing is an omission of pretty much all Jewish groups in Asia, Africa, & Latin America. Jews in the Islamic world have a very different history involving persecution than those of Christian kingdom, while violence did occur, outright expulsions and wretched ghetto life were far more infrequent features outside Europe.
Finally, the claim the Jews would disappear really should only be applied through the European lens, there were Jewish communities under far less direct threat in the 1800’s, albeit often smaller with less mainstream influence, though they still existed and deserve recognition.
I can’t tell if you are criticizing the video or simply trying to tell viewers that Reform Jews are not the only Jews in the US.
If the former, I’d note that the focus of the video is the Reform movement and it’s relationship to Zionism. Not American Jewry’s or Diaspora Jewry’s relationship to Zionism. As the Reform movement originated in Germany and as historically comprised overwhelmingly of Ashkenazi Jews, it makes sense that the historical relationship between this movement and Zionism would have an Askenazi bent.
A single video can’t cover everything. Hopefully this channel will produce additional videos on the perspectives of Jews outside of the Reform movement.
"Ghettos" definitely did exist in the Islamic World, at least in some places. Though they may have gone under a different name, and not been quite so poor.
Wrong on all accounts you are operating on long held stereotypes that actually don't hold any historical water. Let me explain why. Sphardic Jews are mainly those expelled from Spain during the Inquisition and Mitzrai Jews originate in the Middle East. Along with Jews expelled from re conquered North Africa where do you think those Jews wound up? Some came back to Israel.but many never made it that far and they wound up in Eastern Europe in places like Ukraine and the Balkans and so there were plenty of Sphardic Jews who were directly affected by the Holoaust. No less than Ashkenazi Jews.There are Sphardic Jews in Italy as well because it's the jumping off point for the Crusades and the Silk Road and the Jews of Central Asia were almost not affected at all by the Nazis or the stuff were talking about because it was one of the most protected and Isolated areas of the Soviet Union and the Jews there we very loyal Soviets and although it was predominantly Muslim going back to Timur the two communities got along just fine( I lived there it's amazing). Ashkenazi, Sphardi and Mitzrai are all of fairy equal number in Israel and I lived with Israelis all my life you can't tell me you can look at someone and tell one from the other. Hasidim and Haradi stand out that's there intention. Modern Orthadox Israeli and especially secular Israeli don't look any different necessarily. African and Ethiopian Jews are what was left out. Not to mention the 500,000 Kurdish Jews etc..This actually was an probably not intentional omission though there is some racism in Israel for sure. Some of the bad blood is less racism and more the fact that the government without asking anyone or discussing it rescued 10s of thousands of Jews from all over Africa and the Middle East in Operations Magic Carpet in Yemen and and 3 -5 other countries and Operation Solomon that rescued 14,000 Ethiopia Jews. As Jews let alone a trying to be take. seriously as a Jewish state these were absolute moral obligations. Israel is a home and safe haven for Jews, all of us all over the world not just Ashkenazi or any one group. It's wonderful for us American Jews to take that all important post graduation trip to Israel and go home but those Rescues is why Israel was created to begin with that's the purpose of the law of return. The problem was the speed and stealth with which it all had to be done didn't afford tome to properly integrate them into Israeli society and that was bound to cause issues. I'm sure you already knew all this.
All I was really getting at is Ashkenazi does not mean Jews from Eastern Europe that in incorrect Ashkeazi are Jews are as a group were Jews of the Holy Roman Epire in Germany France and Poland Belarus and North West Russia There were also smaller groups of other Jews. Eastern Europe the Balkans and the Asian Steppe were much more diverse. There are plenty of both as well as Mizrahi.
Also When Kings like Edward I expelled Jews( even before the Inquisition) he did so under pressure by the Barons he didn't have a personal issues they kept his books( which is why the Barons were trying to get rid if them. He took a fair few on Crusade with him and of course lots of Jews were killed by Crusaders. My point is Ashkenazi Jews were going back and forth from Israel to Europe back to the Rome and Greece.
@@joshualittle877 But, a lot of Jews in Morocco, Turkey and Tunis were Sephardim, who left Spain just before the Inquisition began. So, it's not that simple.
Reform jews as an identity is a dying culture, I have non religious relatives who have unfortunately married outside the faith and their children are no longer Jewish
And that is their right as free, able bodied human beings.
@@Ozymondias99 what's your point
@@mottyk8491 That people should not have to feel ashamed if they want to change their religion and their friends & family should respect that choice.
@@Ozymondias99 It's their choice to do that but there'll be nothing left
Reform Judaism is the largest Jewish movement in North America. It’s the only movement with significant growth.
Universal lessons here....we all must be open to "learning from the other side" (keep your mind truly open), don't demonize those you don't agree with (Jews v Gentiles), and we are ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. Lessons for Jews, lessons for gentiles, lessons for Americans (Democrats and Republicans), LESSONS FOR THE WORLD.
You've spoken the wisely, the path to harmony.
How wonderful is this. The opening lines are excellent to hear, so important to say., explaining so much. Bravo 👏
Fake jews
Repairing the World "Tikun Olam" is NOT a humanistic universal value as many secular Jews wrongly belive.
It is a Kabalistic concept that means bringing back lost "nitzotzot" holy sparks back to us by fulfilling ALL the commandaments.
Another kabalistic concept שבירת הכלים/shevirat hakelim and tzimtzum. I’m reformed jew
@@danymann95 Shvirat Hakelim and tzimtzum are two distinct concepts.
@@davidcohenboffa1666 yeah I know, sorry English is not my first language
Great stuff
Interesting and true, years ago I was in the USAF stationed in Germany, some friends of mine and myself were staying at a hostel in Munich,, some Israeli guy about my age asks me, am I jewish and I said yes, what are you doing here (or something like that) I'm in the air force stationed here. He goes, why are you not in Israel and in there air force, my answer was I'm American, not Israeli.
From 5:13 to the end, 2 minutes that perfectly explain the duality of Israeli-Diasporetic Jewry. There's an inherent value in living in the Land that has Judaism as its very heart and soul, where the streets are paved with Jewish history, something no American utopia can ever truly emulate.
Jesus: The thief's hand will be cut off, Khazari
All jews need to come closer together and realise the truth of torah 🙌
The torah, New testament, and quran are nothing but a bunch of tall tales.
@@Ozymondias99 I suppose you're learned in all three, right?
Talmud
....Complicated yet simple comes down to this, stay out of trouble and sickness, as best one can, and one has more choices how to live more secure....Does religion help keep one out of trouble and freer/safer?.... At times and in certain ways, yes.......At other times no....However, one must try their best to stay out of trouble, be healthy, be free, and be safe; as some of the great individuals of the past have......Unfortunately, Jews don't help fellow Jews accomplish this at times, or may even exploit fellow Jews at times; so its important to make sure, one doesn't loose track, to take good care of themselves; and not let oneself down, as people, nature, and seemingly even god can....
Excellent overview! Thank you for the explainer!
I found this video interesting and funny, I grew up as a reform Jew and a Zionist. Think of myself today as a different kind of Zionist.
Like what kind? Zionism is your flag. Zionism is nothing more than a world political party. Jew got Jewed! Again.
Who is the "King of Israel"? Who is the Nascent Sanhedrin? And what is the New World Religion. Dead serious. Answer those questions.
An Israeli flag is the blue & white Menorah.
Zionist flag is the Seal of Solomon. White ain't Semite & the Jew is Guilty. 🖤😎🇺🇲
Funny how only 16 comments. For people famous for arguing and dissenting , this must surely mean something. Not sure what but maybe it’s settled in most peoples minds
I don’t understand how you can read the Torah and everlasting instructions, Psalm 119 and Ezekiel’s future temple and deduce ANY type of Reform Judaism.
Remember how Germany paid the Jews who chose to “reform”, to fit in with the secular people around them.
Is that really possible........?
I dont think so !
I see a transformation of Israel of a total different approach, to be honest.
Still confused.
Why is the term anti-semitism used instead of anti-judaism? Is it to confuse by dragging non-jewish Arabs (also semites) along with Jews and their particular issues with many other non-Jews? I would appreciate clarification on this matter.
That's why the correct spelling is antisemitism to clarify that it is specifically about the Jews and it came about when people found an ethnic motive to hate jews as opposed to the old school religious motive
Anti-Semitism: Hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious or racial group. The term anti-Semitism was coined in 1879 by the German agitator Wilhelm Marr to designate the anti-Jewish campaigns underway in central Europe at that time.
Again, nothing to do with Arabs.
@@dorandacolbert5973 if it has nothing to do with Arabs, stop using Semite and use the proper word, Jew, as in anti-Judaism.
Arabic being categorized as a Semitic language doesn't make Arabs "Semites". English being categorized as a Germanic language also doesn't make English people Germans. The word Antisemitism describes hatred against Jews based on their race. Anti-Judaism is hatred against Jews based only on their religion.
@@coraholunder1989You mean ethnic, because most of them are mixed Turks
In Israel Ramat Hagolan exists...
6:17, girls wearing tefillin creeps me out! 😬
Don't push your own issues on women. Teflian is very questionable practice for men. The phrase was not meant literally to wear this on your eyes and heart but the idea to be part of your everyday existence. Karaite jews don't wear tefillian and don't believe it was literal. It is a ghetto practice and men wearing it and thinking their super jews is weird when this whole thing is questionable.
Both Reform Judaism and Zionism ditched their unwavering faith in the A-Mighty. Then Zionism attracted the "Modern Orthodox" and became much more acceptable. However only the Chareidim are the same in both Israel and America.
Holaaaaa belloooossss hermosos maravillosos 😺😺😺😺😺
follow the torah, keep kosher. and all is well. everytime we follow the masses things go bad.
Jesus: The distorted Torah 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What is the deference between Reform and Neolog Judaism?
never heard of Neolog Judaism. The main branches of Judaism are Orthodox, Reform, and Conservative Judaism. Reform Judaism was an attempt to reform traditional Judaism and chose to discard Hebrew and the rituals of Judaism. they wanted to become more similar to Christianity. Conservative Judaism was a reaction to Reform Judaism. Conservative Jews thought Reform Jews went to far and wanted to conserve most of what Reform discarded, but at the same time didn't want to be as static and rigid or unwilling to evolve like Orthodox/Traditional Judaism. I'll have to look up Neolog Judaism, never heard of it.
@@rennyskiathitis8178 There is also reconstructionist judaism which is like reform Judaism but very new agey.
Neolog was a movement in Hungary. It made external, cosmetic changes to be modern, like the Reform in Germany but did not make radical changes to theology or belief.
@@rennyskiathitis8178 Most beautiful sinagogues in Hungary and Vojvodina region are of Neolog Judaism .Check the Novi Sad,Subotica,Szeged ,Kecskemet sinagogues.
@@roniberahaquartet477 and Romania.
The real question is how do you do you define a Jew I mean I've been to Latin America countries can't speak the language they only speak Spanish and they came from a Jew family but they's been so mix. I need can a person go and marry someone in Israel and can they have kids and now those kids could they say the same thing I am laughing because my parents were lying you see this is very difficult to Define when it comes to say what is a race and if it. What does that really mean or is he just a religion beliefs
Today the Rabbi give me the answer, it is an ethnoculture spectrum of different communities of people with different languages and backgrounds but with the same aim of sharing the message of God and brotherhood to the world.
@@danymann95The indigenous Jews in Iran, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt: A curse on the Arab Kingdom of Himyar and the Turkic Khazars began to think of themselves as Jews.
Wow, didn't see this video coming.....sike
One should ask those in the US if their grandchildren are still Jewish??? That is why my parents fled from the US to Israel and died knowing that their grandchildren are 100 percent Jewish✡️✡️✡️✡️✡️
There is no difference between one jew and another..
There are Jews and their are other tribes.
A persons affiliation or ritual life dose not make someone a Jew.
The purpose of the reform movement is too,
Allow music and art and considerations or rejections toward,
Modern music and art in the synagouge for the advancement of jews.
There is no such idea as Judaism.
There are Jews and other people.
What people call orthodox,reform,convervative.etc.
Really means just like anywhere else this is the program here today..;
The authorities may or may not let us have a jew for a rabbi.
They may or may not allow us too assemble.
They certainly will not give us our privacy or
Respect that we are not a church business..
So into the hustle and bustle with your neighbors
So you will bore and bare the children of other tribes..;
In a nut shell zionism is simply a Jew having self worth in of this;
Also needs too become a world perspective..and beyond..;
In our world and on others
It is not something which is seen.
You need jews and too organize as jews too have zionism.
That is difficult with society designed too commit and legitimize
Aggravated rape by sorcery wife swapping by intermarriage and
philosophy
No mention here for the middle eastern Jews, where there was no reform movement and consist almost half the jews in israel today. The subject is much more complex.
The term "reform" is used in this video to refer to diaspora jews. There is actually a reform minority (like, a really small minority, less than 0.1%) living within Israel.
@@adrianblake8876Jesus: Damn, are they the rulers? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
They hardly seem incompatible
A great example of how a non-religious Jew's Jewishness is blatant in Isreal is their name. In America, and presumably other countries, your name is usually localized to that country's culture and language. Isreal's culture is Jewish and it's language is Hebrew. As a result, it doesn't matter how non-religious you are, your name is going to sound Jewish. In the states everyone called my dad Douglas. Here everyone calls him Dovid.
Your father is called by his Yiddish name?
Dovid - Yiddish
David - Hebrew
@@davidschalit907 David isn't Hebrew. It's the christian variation of the Jewish name Dovid.
@@yosefzanerva806
Lol! דוד has no 'O'
David is pronounced Da'veed in its original Hebrew.
Dovid is Yiddish.
@@davidschalit907 actually it was something like "TH[au]V[ee]D"
@@davidschalit907 LoL, you're talking about in English. In Hebrew it's pronounced Duh-veed.
Reform Judaism sounds to me like assimilation with extra steps
It is. This is why reform Jews usually start disappearing after the third or fourth generation.
it is the reform idology suppose to help jew adapt to whatever country they live in and remove almost everything that is considerd jew outside being sipirtual believe god. so its like christain believing jesus but not celebrate christmas, believe in jesus but not being religious enough to have you own perspactive but perspactive based on who you surrounf yourself with. naturally i would reject reform judasim but again when you being perscuted you dont really have much choice.
It's called the Silent Holocaust, with reason.
Its the best. One cannot be an island amongst themselves.
@@talbenavraham1478 no its people getting rid of silly superstition and not being bound by minutia from so called teachers. No one is being put in a gas chamber.
United States has a most Jewish People live
Wrong. The largest population of our people is in Israel, the diaspora is spread across the planet. There is a lot in the USA and Canada but not "most" as you say.
That depends upon how you define a Jew. If you mean people who are Jewish, under Jewish law, (Jewish mother or maternal grandmother) the US has more. If you mean people who identify as Jewish, Israel has more.
@@deborahfreedman333 Actually, according to Jewish law it is the mother that must be Jewish isn't it? In Isreal it is one grandparent that must be Jewish in order to make aliya.
Reform Judaism = Reformed Torah
= bullshit
= eventual assimilation (*evil antisemitic laugh)
@@davidmccarroll2280 might be
Before zionism jews were very well respected.
No they were pretty much hated for everything before the movement. When the state of Israel was formed antisemites just found another reason hate jews
no
This devil is a liar lol
what does the devil has to do with this
❤️🇺🇸🌈🇨🇦🚨 ELIJAH AND GOD LOVE YOU FROM THE UNITED STATES, UNITED ONE GALLEXY STANDS UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE
Great comedy show,
Please make a video about doctors who did not go to medical school.
😁
Better still make a video about why they call themselves doctors even though they have not done a doctorate. They have not made a contribution to the field of medicine or to any academic field. They just went to trade school, like the plumber or the electrician.
When presenting the many Jewish streams you didn't even mention Religious Zionism.
Which is so weird for an Israeli, yet it it trully is almost an unnexistant movement on the US.
And that relates to something that was mentioned later, about the separation of religion and politics in the US. But actually, thus idea is foreing to Judaism. It has always been politically driven and politically active, you can just open Tanach, it is actually more of a political book than a religious book
I would say that the vast majority of the Modern Orthodox communities today are congruent to the Israeli equivalent, Religious Zionism.
You even see Chardal types emulated in the States, as many mainstream (or "Ultra") Orthodox have gone from apolitical to pointedly Zionistic.
@@MrCGross2012 Being religious/Orthodox and Zionist at the same time doesn't mean someone is a Religious Zionist.
Religious Zionism is a very specific religios and social movement in Israel (which comprises almost exclusively the followers of Rav Kook zt"l)
@@davidcohenboffa1666 This video is about the Reform movement's ambivalence about Israel. Kook was originally from Latvia, not Germany, where the Reform movement began. And while he was really into his group's return to Israel and building of yeshivot, he was not happy about the Mitzrachi movement, and they were the real religious tzionists.
@@deborahfreedman333 They were the "real" religious zionists? What does that mean? What about Poel HamIzrachi?
And Rav Kook was the founder of Religious Zionism. Not religious Jews being Zionist in general, but this specific group.
And I am not talking about the whole video, only about one part he talked about Jewwish sects and left our Religious Zionism.
just like the muslims do as well!
🥱🥱..
Matthew 5:3-8 GOD’S WORD Translation
3 “Blessed are those who recognize they are spiritually helpless.
The kingdom of heaven belongs to them.
4 Blessed are those who mourn.
They will be comforted.
5 Blessed are those who are gentle.
They will inherit the earth.
6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for God’s approval.
They will be satisfied.
7 Blessed are those who show mercy.
They will be treated mercifully.
8 Blessed are those whose thoughts are pure.
They will see God.
I consider myself as a Gentile Zionist, I'm happy for Jews ✡ to be with and around me, but I also believe that they deserve their homeland and rights as a nation to exist. God bless you 🙏 and may Israel 🇮🇱 stay forever.
Not just a matter of deserving a homeland; it IS the aboriginal heartland of the Jewish people. And it is essential for the preservation of Jews .... period.
@@Lagolop Oh, I hope God blesses you and your family 👨👩👧👦
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
I need a Zionist jew to please summon all the Jewish spirits and souls to possess my body and pray for me to convert to Modern Orthodox Judaism and become a Zionist Rabbi and a permanent citizen of Israel forever period 🇮🇱💯🕍👑🕋✡️🕎
😂
@@Ozymondias99 what's that
@@Ozymondias99 what's your religion
@@Ozymondias99 I know who you really are😈👹💯🤣😅
We don't pray or summon spirits & souls. So therefore, your conversion is a no - go, until you at least learn and internalize some basics.
Free Palestine 🇵🇸 free Palestine 🇵🇸
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Matthew 10:34
John 3:6-7 Living Bible
6 Men can only reproduce human life, but the Holy Spirit gives new life from heaven; 7 so don’t be surprised at my statement that
🔥🐍🔥 *you must be born again!* 🔥🐍🔥
Stop quoting your Roman books in a video about Judaism. We firmly reject them as false constructs, meant to deceive.
@@deborahfreedman333 YOU ARE REJECTED! 25 Remember what the prophecy of Hosea says? There God says that he will find other children for himself (who are not from his Jewish family) and will love them, though no one had ever loved them before. 26 And the heathen, of whom it once was said, “You are not my people,” shall be called “sons of the Living God.”[a]
Footnotes
Romans 9:26 See Hosea 2:23.
If Jews get to have their own ethnostate, do White Europeans?
Yes!!
Jews aren't white... Jews come in all colors...
🤔 you already have England and Ireland and Scotland and Wales and France and Germany and Switzerland and Poland and Austria and Hungary and Romania and Italy and Spain and Greece and Norway and Denmark and like 20 other countries, how many more do you need?
@@xp8969 They're not exclusively white though, I want them to be
@@OneMondBand Good to hear
Israeli it's jew and Jew it's Israeli.
Good day
No such thing as ishiteal 🐖💨🇮🇱
Israel Is Judaism. Judaism Is Israel. Am Yisrael Chai.❤
As a Christian I think America is a great nation, but Israel is greater. God established Israel and reestablished it. God bless Israel
I'm Jewish and I'm not zionist
You're not a Jew. At best you are a troll.
@@Lagolop lol
Sure thing, are you sure your not Turkish? Isn't that where that name for backgammon comes from?
@@deborahfreedman333 We also play backgammon here in Israel
Luke 7:46((G.N.T.))👑
The United States pays for 20% of Israel's military budget while Israel has a space program, universal health care, and still runs a budget surplus for six of the last ten years.
Stop paying taxes
Fight back against the globalist
It’s obvious you don’t know how the United States military grant program works. Especially since you’re under the impression that the United States is paying for Israel.
You pay taxes to your country while still being an unproductive waste of space, for ten of the last ten years
america can do the same as israel its the fact everything you mentioned is seen as communism in america but not in isreal and europe.
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Long Live Israel 🇮🇱😀
Zionism is jewish supremacy
Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Long live Palestine from the river to the sea!! 🌺🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Fck Israel.
@@m.dthedemon4076 Free the Temple Mount.
Reform judaism will make those new Jews unrelated with the Levant and Israel...
It's not a good solution at all.
I advise more liberalism for Marriage between Israel citizens whatever their religion is.
Also be more open for Israel arab conversion, as they all have Cananean, Israelite and Samaritains origin.
It may be a return to their original people and faith.
Jesus: Sorry, the original Jews do not mix with Gog and Magog of the Khazars
free palestine 🇵🇸
@pokazam No such place as "palestine".
@Rani Hinnawi The name exists, the nation, country etc DOES NOT. Ironically when the Brits started to use the term "palestine" after they kicked the fuqing muzlim ottomans out, they would refer to the JEWS as "palestinians" and the few arabs that were living there were called ARABS.
But of course it is all now Israel, the Jewish state :)
@Rani Hinnawi The word "Palestinian" goes back directly to the RIOMANS. Philistines were mentioned in the Bible because they were the enemies of the Jewish nation. Do you know who the Phiistines were? Apparently not. You are a revisionist. The Philistines were an Agean seafaring people from Europe.
There are no people as "palestinian". Even the leaders of those arabs have said so much anti is recorded. You all come from either arabia or egypt. The concept of such a peopel began with Arafat, an Egyptian! In the 1960 he invented the people in an attempt to deligitimize the Jewish state of Israel. Fact; the only indigenous people of t his land that are living (the Canaanites are extinct) are the Jews ... period.
The arab population lives a life that would never be experienced outside of Israel. Full freedom and protection and free to practice their religion because the JEWS make it so. The arbvas can live in the land just as I live in Canada. My family has been here 1800 (from Europe) but we will never be aboriginal to Canada, and the Indians do not kick us out. So it is with the arabs in Israel. They re just like other nations going to a land that is not indigenous to them. So stop trying to make like arabs have been there forever because they have not and YES you ARE an arab. You speak arabic, you look like arabs, your language and culture is arab. Are you denying that?! Gut Shabbos :)
@Rani Hinnawi You sound reasonable. And there may be some truth in what you say but basically we are not the same people, we speak different languages, we have vastly different cultures. The one thing that may be possible is that the "palestinians" that are Christians are the descendants of the Jews. The first Christians and Jesus of course were all Jewish, religious Jews in fact. In the beginning Christianity was just a sect of Judaism.
I get defensive because us Jews (especially us Ashkenazi) are constantly getting attacked.
I also think that the 2 state solution is utter bullshit. Besides the Brits GAVE the arabs a state; it's called Jordan. Even the "palestinians" don't want a 2 state solution. They want a solution with ZERO ISRAEL. That will never happen. The Jews are going nowhere because there is no where to go. That is why they are the warriors that they must be. The land has 1000s of years of Jewish archaeologic evidence and historical facts. The Golan is also aboriginal Jewish lands and is under Jewish control again, thank God. Judea and Samaria need to be fully annexed. It is the best thing for everybody. Yes the "palestinians" have place just as I have a place in Canda even though my ancestries came by way of Europe in 1800. We can never be indigenous to Canada just as "palestinians" cannot be indigenous to Israel unless of course they can prove that they are the dependents of Judeans that converted too Christianity (and I suppose it is possible some were forced into izlam). Bottom line, all people living in Israel and taking advantage of the benefits it offers must admit that it is a Jewish state; the one and only Jewish state. Living in Isreal is a privilege and loyalty is a must (like in any other sovereign nation).
Did you enjoy Di Rob. Quite good I thought.
Blaybn gezunt un shtark ... un gut Shabbos.
@Rani Hinnawi The word Canaanite doesn't mean "INVADER". You are thinking of the term "PHILISTINE".
Off course Jews belong on the land; they are the one and only living aboriginal people of the land since the Canaanites are now extinct. I think I already pointed out that current academic thought is the Jewish people are either an offshoot of the Canaanites OR they entirely subsumed the Canaanite tribes; the later being most likely.
It may be possible for a "palestian" can have Jewish blood. They has been some mixing over time but the is surely not the norm. Conversion of Jews to Christianity is likely in some cases and possibly even to izlam.
I am not belittling the arab population in the region; I'm simply pointing out facts.
BTW, there are arabs known to convert to Judaism. Some rather interesting stories about that. In one case this Lebanese terrorist need up not only converting to Judaism (thereby joining our tribe), he is also a rabbi living in Isreal right now.
oopsy woopsy there is no rooms for jewishness i'm sorry
Long live the pedo worshipers!!
Loxism is real
Soros
Rothschild
Biden administration
What is loxism?
@@adam_1144 what is a dictionary?
What is a search engine?
If you can type it here you can type it in the search bar
I prefer Bagelism.
Jews do not hate non Jewish white people
Orthodox jews were not happy about zionism. Dont forget it
Don't forget hundreds of millions of Christians are for it.
most zionists were orthodox most israelis are orthodox
@PAVOL I have Ultra Orthodox relatives that live in Judea, Samaria and the Golan. All their kids are in the IDF or have been or are about to do service. They are fierce Zionists. Don't forget that.
A small minority are not, most are.
Not true. Some were originally against political Zionism divorced from religion. There was a parallel Religious Zionist movement that was very strong and eventually learned to work with the political Zionists.
Semetism causes antisemetim
Never heard such bullshit in my live the intolerance of others causes antisemitism
I stand with the Neturei Karta. Zionism is not Judaism.
Zionism is one of the main parts in judaism
Zionism has many ways. For example, I agree with the religion Zionism. The Neturei Karta is one of the most radical Jewish community. Before 1948 many rabbies against creation of Israel, but after Independence war and others, most of them understood that G-d really helped and protected exist of Israel. Secular Zionism has difference with Judaism, therefore, they have one consequence, that Jews have right to the Holly Land.
I love how haters decide what Judaism is...
Eddy Hernandez Zionism is indeed biblical. Read Genesis 17:8 and Genesis 21:10-13.
@@yakov95000 like haters decide white man bad?
Lmao why is there no snow in Poland on January 25, 1945?
Propaganda lies
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