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Pastor Carl, do you think that God was humbling you when you fell from church? Other mega church pastors seems to be falling lately and I feel like maybe God is humbling them, and perhaps this is God telling you to sorta start over, but remain small in a small church and truly stay Biblical especially in these times where churches are afraid to remain truly biblical. There are pastors kicking the Bible, pouring syrup on the Bible, gay Pastors, Pastors that won't say Jesus, worship singers that don't sing Jesus, pastors dressing up like Toy Story characters. Maybe God is humbling you and that your purpose is to be one of those pastors that speak pure Biblical truth without fear from the Government or social justice woke warriors.
@@soniairak80 How is it negative? It's an honest raw and imo a good question. It's nothing negative about his sin, it's actually a question of new purpose and change. so let me ask you, what makes you "feel" it's negative? and be detailed
@@LetsBHonestIf you believe that asking him if God is humbling him on a video when his children are talking about their hurt is positive then go off bruv
@@soniairak80You need thick skin. I think they're asking a question, not a statement about if Carl at one point felt that. Nothing wrong that when we sin or if our ego is big, sometimes things happen our in lives where we suddenly go through the storms of life that sometimes humbles us, a lesson of life if you will. The children are fine and are in a better place. It won't trigger their pain.
The ripple effect of human error is palpable. These young people are living through feelings of abandonment that no child should experience. The courage to speak their truth is a beautiful thing to witness. ❤
This is such a blessing, everything! thank you for being so open, so honest, so transparent. What you are doing as a family is truely speaking so loud about the Grace of God. This really builds up the Body of Christ, you are a blessing, we pray for you
The kids are very affected by the rejection of some of those people who where not there with them in the bad and sad moments of their life. But I would say, forgive them and let God fight for you.
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I love the emphasis of both/and. In that same way, I know that there's a lot of details that aren't shared in this video, but would it not be weird for grown adults of the opposite gender to be reaching out to these kids? Can prayer and interceding for these children and this family not be done from afar? Again, there's a lot of nuances of relationships that I, as someone who stumbled across this video randomly, won't know, but that's something I'm wondering about.
forgiveness is one thing, trust is another. We all make mistakes. God forgives those that honestly repent. Lets be honest and say their are wolves in the church. Look at the recent Benny Hinn scandal - Mike Winger. Hinn keeps appologising, but keeps trying to use tricks to make money. Carl should step away from Church leadership and get a real job. Documentary shows there was more problems in Hillsong than the one affair.
These videos are perhaps the realest and most wholesome and hope giving thing on the internet rn. Thank you for humbly displaying your lives to the goodness and grace of God
Carl, I admire how you have taken complete ownership for your past indiscretion and you've never made any excuses. Your children seem to be well adjusted emotionally, highly articulate for such a young age. I appreciate the way you let them be completely honest with their raw emotions and you allow them to speak from their hearts. Thank the Lord for new beginnings. His grace is sufficient.
as a pastor’s wife and mom to 2 little ones, it reaffirms my stance to always make my children a priority over the congregation i love our church and support my husband by making sure his family is not crumbling when he gets home making family a priority while in ministry is a non negociable THANK YOU to all of you for your vulnerability and openness
The moment Roman (especially at his age) put his hand out to his sister to comfort her, says SO much about the love and respect this family has for one another. 💗
As a former member of Hillsong NYC when Pastor Carl was the pastor, I always wondered about how the children were. I’m so glad to hear from them and see the growth. I wasn’t close to their family, but my natural instinct was to pray for their children, so hearing that they didn’t have the support they needed was disheartening. People are by your side when you’re soaring high, but you really know your true supporters when you experience tough tines.
@bibleman7757 God is faithful. His Spirit promises to guide His beloved into all truth. What he begins, He finishes well, no matter where people find themselves.
Mannnnnnnnn! These kids had me crying!!! What BEAUTIFUL BLESSED SMART ARTICULATE VULNERABILE AND HONEST HUMAN BEINGS THERE ARE!!!! I’m blown away that kids this young can express themselves so perfectly ❤❤❤❤
It must be a vulnerable and humbling position to let your kids share about family life at home. I’ve heard the quote “your kids are your real resume” Carl and Laura truly gave their kids the mic in this episode and all 3 beamed with so much wisdom, maturity, and honesty. I would love to have this kind of connection and deep conversations with my kids one day.
I’m not someone to ever comment on videos I watch on RUclips, but I wanted to say Thank you Letz family for opening your heart and be so vulnerable in a platform that can still be evil and judgmental but you still decided to put yourself out there to help people. I was your Son’s age when my Dad was unfaithful to my Mom and he had a child as result of that infidelity. After a lot of work and healing my Dad is also an example of God’s Grace and his life has being transformed, my parents are still happily married and going stronger than ever. Now, I am 35 years old women and I wish there was someone at that time to walk with me thru my pain, or even videos like this listening to brave kids like yours that have gone thru similar situations that would’ve encouraged me and helped me with my healing process. Proud of your kids to shared their heart and show their feelings as is not easy. ❤ I pray that this channel will be a platform that will help a lot of families, a channel that glorifies God and a perfect example of God’s Grace because I believe in it , is real and I’ve seen it in my own family. ❤
I’m 28. I’m a PK. I love my Dad, he’s hard working and loving and will suffer for the benefit of the congregation. But I was never his priority. The congregation was. Our relationship has improved over the last few years. But he didn’t come to many important moments for me…. This one hit me
❤. NO WORDS.❤❤ Children of ministers are taken to be ministers (which I am/was) even at young ages , without the experiences of parents and if others put that pressure it is supposed to be reduced by parents. I'm glad there is an awareness for this. I'm 24 (soon)year old girl from Nigeria , I didn't want to be too spiritual because I didn't want my children to have so much pressure. Now that I just Lord the Lord so much and want to be more into him , I'm glad I'm seeing this to help me with my future children
This is hands down one of, if not the, most impactful podcast episodes for families I have ever listened to. So grateful for the Lentz family for doing this. And in full transparency, I say this as a Christian that used to be a big time Carl Lentz detractor, to say the least. I just say that to let you all know that you’re using the platform God gave you to literally change hearts and minds… keep up the great work, God Bless!
It is so powerful to see the kid's points of view. They need a voice in this as well. I love how well they can articulate their feelings. They endured just as much. What the devil meant for evil, God turned for Good. Praying for wholeness and full restoration for this family. Gloryyyy to God.
The kid, “We ran the show” wow, this family is missing a lot of humility. Dad, “It’s my turn, It’s my show”. “We still have an entourage” 🤦🏾♀️ Cornerstone tattooed on you should have a meaning of God being the Cornerstone not just a song reference. Telling someone to F- off, because of your father’s actions is crazy. They didn’t owe you anything, your dad did. I can’t continue to listen to this crap. This is another podcast a lot of people can do without and concerning that so many people are right back in. You preached one thing and did things differently in the household. I am so over church folks pretending and church celebrity culture.
I love how every time the kids explained their thoughts and feelings, you told them it was beautiful. You didn’t argue or get defensive. It gave the kids the opportunity to truly share. Love love love this episode!🩵
I don’t think it’s the truth . My ex husband cheated and did go off with the woman and our children cried for six months. They struggled so badly. It did all calm down but that is the first time my children were rocked to the core . Cheating is a selfish act it disgusts me . The damage left behind.
@@helenmapleston628 Dang sorry to hear that :( Agreed selfish of him, and he doesn’t think on a deeper level of life ! Would you ever take him back ? Like she did….. that’s why carls story is so delusional to me ! And everyone is keep saying how inspirational it is ! There getting financial gain from this and she’s 1 and 1 million of a person taking him back !
I’m wondering what type of parenting goes on with their family? Is it Christ/biblically centered? As a Christian we should be set apart from the world, or striving to be set apart. But to hear several cuss words so freely rolling out of the two girls hurts my heart. What does it mean to follow Jesus? It’s giving me a glimpse into the mega church pastor life/world.Sadly this is very common. I understand the pain these precious kids have been through and I do not hold them responsible for even the language that is coming out, it’s a product of the environment. I also realize the two girls are older now and are walking out their own process, but I guess I’m just wondering what is being taught to kids, teenagers concerning The Gospel, what does it mean to be a disciple of Jesus? I am very grateful that The Lentz’ are sharing their journey, I admire this. Just a burden for Jesus to be glorified in our lives like He deserves and demands. As a pastor and parent I’m asking The Lord to help me as well.
The Lentzes got together in Sydney, Oz at the inception and height of the emergent church. The emergent church thought it was toeing the line and pushing the envelope on Christian foundational truths. The fact is it was miles over the line, but didn't know it. The deception was that if you're not a religious, uptight pharisee, you'll be "a new kind of Christian " (Brian McLaren). You'll be nicer about sin (compromise happily), get tats, cuss a lot, drink Bourbon, smoke pipes and cigars, etc They were early hipsters. Lentz came of age under the shadow of people like Rob Bell. They changed all the rules, but kept "Christ". Phase 1 emergent phase 2 deconstruction phase 3 apostasy. These kids have maybe never been around orthodoxy.
SAME. Roman, the brother is precious. I really love hearing from all of them. The whole family. Grateful for the work done and the fruit of it here. My dad was a cheater and an addict and died at the age of 43 from an overdose (I was 13 yrs old). After he died I picked up his habits until Jesus saved me from myself. I am 48 now, and have a beautiful family of my own but would have loved if my family could have gone through this type of recovery/healing work together. I am as close to my family as we are able to be wiht out ALOT of triggers, but the closesness the Lentz's share now is precious. I did my own recovery with counselors, AA the church, etc for years and still have tune ups to this day. Grateful for this story to be heralded because it is possible for restoration and recovery!
Wow Carl, let’s go! What he said about telling Laura, “what she thinks she needs to know” instead of telling her the truth and how that is a form of lying and manipulation….. preach! I also have to give props to Laura for staying and fighting for her marriage. I truly hope they live happily ever after. You go girl! ❤
This the 3rd episode that I am watching and I have to say, I have never watched something so candid and honest in the American podcast/ tv atmosphere ! Congratulations !! May God bless this family abundantly
My dad was a Pentecostal pastor that fell because of infidelity, he fathered a child out of wedlock. My parents split and in his absence, a Sunday school teacher took advantage of me and I was repeatedly molested. By the time I was 10, I was severely scarred. Emotionally, physically and spiritually. I spoke out and was called a liar. As a result my mother was asked to leave the church. We were shunned. My siblings and I are still trying to navigate life with pain, shame and mistrust. To most people the church is a place of refuge and healing, to us, it’s the source of our trauma and pain. I wish my 12 year old self had the opportunity to find healing. Thanks for doing this.
I on behalf of so many Christian’s that get it wrong and don’t act anything like Christ want to apologize to you and your family for failing you so miserably and failing to represent the grace and mercy of Jesus! I wish I could hug you and say this to your face. Even so, sweetheart I promise you that God is good! ❤
Pray that you find healing.. sorry you had to go through so much.. hope you find healing.. I can’t imagine the pain.. but there is hope I. Christ not on religion or people. 🙏🏼💕
Some time we judge right away.. instead of helping our own Cristians people.. we don’t realized the damage that the kids go through. So easy to judge when we should be there for them.. not what he did was right but help out and see where does it come from.. I feel bad for this children.. god heal their hear and family..🙏🏼
I’ve been there with fake church people.. I served the “church” with my whole heart for years, and when I was not okay mentally or emotionally. When I fell the only one who picked me up where my siblings, 3 real friends, but mostly Jesus. Then he sent me to a church that wasn’t under a religious spirit and I slowly reconnected to community
@@RecalledtoLifeInteresting comment. The emergent church was a reaction to what they called religiosity, phariseeism, and zealous republican politics/nationalism. So they judged much, became prideful, religious democrats. Equally zealots. Equal and opposite, but no different than the church they had judged.
I have to say I came across this video not sure what to expect from it! And I was blown away by how genuine you all were as a family sitting down having a conversation about how they went through and how they felt by friends they thought were genuine to having them leave and also what people were saying on the social media. I dont know you guys at all. Could I be the first to apologise cause I know I made a comment made purely based on a judgement on what Carl did to his family. we all full short and we all have things we are dealing with before GOd some people may go through their sinful parts in private others in the spotlight. I am a former Pastors kid so do understand where all this can come from and how hard it is to feel like my Dad doesn't have time for me apart from his need to look after the flock of the church etc. I also really love the way your kids Carl, talked about what they love about you now and how you are around the house. Its like you have had the lights turned on, you are awake. you aren't running on adrenaline, you are intentional about making your wife and family number one and everything under that. I am so glad to hear that there is a church family you belong to now. I also really love the fact that you are in a church that is so much more Holy Spirit lead then presentation or scripted lead. Praise God for the right people around you, thank you to God that he is intentional about redemption, healing, restoring, bringing hope. I was very blessed from listening to you all chat together, I would lo hear more of you'll again! God Bless you!
I learned so much from your children in this podcast!! Give them a big THANK YOU for their honesty, openness, and vulnerability!! God is using all of you in big ways 🙏 🙌
Y’all are INCREDIBLE! You girls & Roman are so brave and courageous to be so real and raw about your church hurt! You guys are going to offer so much healing to others through using your mess as your message. Your family is going to be so much farther reaching than you were at Hillsong because now you have fermented you are pouring wine not juice! God can use anything. He does not waste a hurt! I applaud you all! Won’t He do it!!! ♥️ What a legacy the Lentz family will leave because they did the hard crap! God is so good and people really suck sometimes BUT GOD!
I lost my wife to cancer after 22 years of marriage. She was the closest thing to perfect. She was my best friend, confidant and the only person I could've counted to have my back no matter what. This song really brings tears to my eyes and made me ask the same question" What is love, if it's not guaranteed? What is love if she's not here with me?' Now I realize that love and life are just beautiful vacations that need to be enjoyed as they're never guaranteed to last forever. I won't forget the last thing she said to me before losing consciousness " Don't allow yourself to be distracted from living your life. The only things you're guaranteed to take away from this life are your last meal and the memories.
wow! this is potentially the most needed space and conversation in the Christian and cultural discourse! thank you so much to the Lentz family! Your uncalculated honesty and transperency breathes out so much of the hope of the new way of life Jesus is inviting us all into if we're willing.
I have watched all 3 episodes of your podcast and it makes me fall more in love with Jesus and His redeeming grace. He doesn’t waste any of our sufferings. He picks up the broken pieces of our messy lives when we give it to Him and He makes something so beautiful. The latter Glory will be so much greater than the former. So proud of your family. Thank you for your transparency. Blessings!
15:26 can we ask how Transformation church leader is a one man show again. There's not much accountability to scripture or elders that help Mike Todd be accountable to the word. He has confessed to not wanting to read the word for teaching so he rather entertain and mostly have loud worship. It's good that the kids have faith in the church but the Faith is suppose to be in Christ the Hope of eternal Glory and our faith resides in the salvation from an eternal fiery end. Maybe since it's just the start hopefully there's more context to scripture not just empotional ups and downs.
What a beautiful conversation! So much insight and healing and I'm here for it. Would definitely love more conversations featuring your children. Thank you all so much for sharing and God bless you all❤
Screenfree is not impossible. At least until 16 or 18. I heard Simon Cowell say he doesn't have a smartphone. My brother is an Electrical Engineer/ computer engineer who did not have a smartphone until his girls were driving.
Due to church scandals, wrong church doctrine and a devastating diagnose health issue I found out at the age of 12 , I became an atheist when I was almost 13 years old.. I was a notorious hard-core atheist who did a 180 and became a follower and believer in Jesus. . I have been praying for the Lentz kids after I heard the news. Laura ,Carl and your family : you are amazing and may God do exceedingly beyond what we can think or imagine.
It's beautiful to see young people talk about a personal relationship with Jesus outside of the institution. We need more young people like this who desire the Lord's presence and not just another program. The Lentz children are so anointed, authentic, and set apart! Praise God for how He is using this family's story for His glory!🙏
My heart breaks for yall kids. It is a lesson for us adults to support people that are down. We don't usually think that way. It's a lesson for me personally now not to discard someone just because they fell. We all fall at some point. This is life, it is not guaranteed that you will always be squeaky clean. We need to humble ourselves. 🙏
These kids are so well mannered and well-spoken . Very respectful and centered . I love how they spoke about their own relationship with God besides the church. Good job, parents 👌🙏
Carl, I don't care at all if I get hate for this... I could see the sincerity, genuine anguish, and brokenness in you the entire time you were living in deceit/addiction and also presenting the Gospel. I believe that you've always been a fighter and you will always continue to be. A righteous man falls down but always gets back up. Don't ever stop getting back up, no matter how many people enjoy hating on you for falling or enjoy watching you pay for it. Those who think they have little to forgive or don't understand how much they've been forgiven of will love little. Those who deeply know how much they have been forgiven will love much. Your family is the biggest proof of who you are that I have seen yet, btw! Proud of you and what God is STILL doing in your life. Blessings! (Your wife and kids are AMAZING.)
I know the kids happily did this, and im not a parent but I think its wrong to expose your kids to this. Whether from good intentions or not, its using them and theyre not mature enough for this
Wow this is really beautiful interview made me cry a few times. Carl helped me so much in my early christian walk. I was heart broken when the insta post came out in 2020. these kids are so wise I loved when Roman said we are a healthy family and not dysfunctional. That is a testament to all the hard work that you guys put in to keep the family together. Lots of families are not together or together yet dysfunctional because they don’t put in the work. Carl I know you messed up but you are a good leader and father.
I hope people that see this, see the destruction that happens to our kids when we fall. It breaks my heart and I pray that you all continue to heal. Let your story be a true testament to how God can restore.
Absolutely!! Well said- sin devastates EVERYONE. To see these babes cry and feel abandoned and makes my eye water! Birthday, graduation, life achievements ect- They missed their people friends... church family. So sad- beautiful kids
Do the kids need to be included on RUclips? Sounds like they are taking on a lot of adult feelings and responsibilities. I hope their healing is prioritized without being pulled into the adult stuff.
I think it’s important they’re included cos seeing them talk about their hurt is a reminder to me, of how my bad decisions would not just affect me, but affect everyone else around me. So moving on, for my every action, I have to constantly ask how it’s going to affect my family.
I said that earlier. I don't know them - but all I see is self focused fame hungry parents raising the kids, they swear, drink, do drugs and have just gone further into self-examination and pity at times, focusing on themselves rather than looking for outward healing and selflessness. They care about working on themselves, working on their family, but no real discussion of how they've made it up to others, what they're trying to do better for others... Carl and Laura spent a lot of the last podcast complaining about people who they decided weren't good friends because they didnt do what they would've done(which i dont believe). Their kids have picked it up too.
The most beautiful family🤍! I am in awe at the emotional and spiritual intelligence your children carry. They are so well spoken. It never matters who messes up in the family bc it’s ultimately up to everyone to pick up the pieces. Not to say someone isn’t to blame or there’s no accountability to be taken but to make it work.. it takes EVERYONE to put in work and save the family. I speak from experience. Congrats to all of you for putting in the work! I wish you nothing but the best.
God has such a plan for this beautiful family. The power of forgiveness and restoration. The gift of wisdom in the kids is amazing. May God get all the glory amen
I can empathize with these kids even as a 45 year old woman. While I never went through the things they did publicly, I was a music pastor’s kid and we got dropped like this quite often. Anytime we went to another church my dad was villionized. People would not speak to us and neither would their kids who were my fiends. I often would feel this way like we’re just kids. Why would you treat us this way. We didn’t do anything.
there's nothing wrong with therapy or "doing the work", but where is the credit to Christ for your life saved, relationship with spouse and children restored, etc? there isn't much recognition of Christ's role in any of this, haven't heard him mentioned much if at all throughout this series so far. sadly, if your friendships are transactional and not based in Christ, this is exactly the result. it seemed before that people were chosen who boosted image, not someone to truly sharpen you. my hope is that they are truly leaning into Christ for all of their needs being met, being restored and for all support, and moving forward with that in regards to friendship, marriage, parenting, ministry, etc. appreciate the humility and openness, hoping it grows in depth in Christ.
People, this is the true church. GOD IS ALWAYS IN CONTROL OF OUR STORY. THIS FAMILY WENT THROUGH THE SHAKING AND IN THAT GOD SHOOK THE TREE AND THE WEAK FALSE COULD NOT STAND!!!!
Sometimes we have to go through a refining experience to get stronger. It's sad that the kids had to experience this so young though, in front of everyone. Hoping they find joy and peace through this journey. Such a great conversation, Ava and Charlie's self- awareness is incredible. Roman is so sweet and well-mannered.
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I feel for these kids and their pain in the relationships they lost after the stuff with Carl happened. I am very curious to see how their outlook changes as they grow up. When two men have a fallout, how does that man keep in touch with someone’s children behind that other guys back? Seems like an impossible scenario.
I also was thinking that. Parents should have addresed this problem. How do you stay in touch with a minor? How do you visit them? I dont know bow this would be manageable. Also, he was a pastor, I wondered how he and his wife would react in such a situation? How can you know how you would play it if you have never been in the same situation..
I think as a parent this shows me how careful I have to be in choosing my friends. These friends/folks were obviously not grounded believers in Christ. It is probably safe to say, they also were hiding secret sin. Hopefully as these children grow, they can extend that grace to these folks/cowards who may never experience the restoration they have. It is sad that adults may never experience the forgiveness and grace that these kids have walked through. Thank you for sharing. As a pastor’s wife of 18 yrs, mother of 7, this has been so encouraging. We are broken people, serving a faithful God. This is my take away from all 3 podcasts. I’ve been telling everyone about them. My friend has been listening to the first one with a lost coworker and it has opened so many Gospel conversations. This can only be the product of Jesus’ love and sacrifice. Thank you!
This teared me up. Sometimes church could be the thing that hurts and drives people away from Jesus. It's amazing that these kids got closer to Jesus through this experience.
Do you miss church? His daughter answered...... "HELL NO". His wife is dropping F bombs, his kids hate the church... This guy wreaked his family and really damaged his kids view of the church! This is just sad.
I'm ABSOLUTELY AMAZED SEEING HOW GOD CAN TAKE A mess & TURN IT INTO BEAUTY,YA'LLS STORY IS SO SO INSPIRING & ENCOURAGING!!! I'LL KEEP ALL OF YOU IN MY PRAYERS❤THANKFUL & GRATEFUL GOD LEAD ME TO THIS VIDEO🫶🎉❤
I commented earlier, but just wanted to highlight this conversation is going to help so many people. The children’s insight on the impact of social media alone is gold. A lot of parents don’t understand why their children struggle with certain things because they don’t realize how much of an impression social media makes on this generation. This needs to be heard by teenage parents everywhere!
You have amazing children. You've done something great with them. Praying for you and your family that God's love and grace surround you all the days of your life.
Those people that did not reach out may have wanted to reach out, but their parents told them not to text, call or visit. Hopefully, they loved you in the prayer closet. The church is a war zone at times because of the devil. Jesus is the restorer & near the brokenhearted. Thank you for videos. I watched all 3. I never was into Hillsong, but this is good to see God's amazing grace heal this family.
This is powerful!!! So many tears! So thankful for what the Lord has done in your family!! Hallelujah!! Praise God!!! Thank you for sharing. Heaven is rejoicing ❤❤❤
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Pastor Carl, do you think that God was humbling you when you fell from church? Other mega church pastors seems to be falling lately and I feel like maybe God is humbling them, and perhaps this is God telling you to sorta start over, but remain small in a small church and truly stay Biblical especially in these times where churches are afraid to remain truly biblical. There are pastors kicking the Bible, pouring syrup on the Bible, gay Pastors, Pastors that won't say Jesus, worship singers that don't sing Jesus, pastors dressing up like Toy Story characters. Maybe God is humbling you and that your purpose is to be one of those pastors that speak pure Biblical truth without fear from the Government or social justice woke warriors.
@@LetsBHonestI get that everyone has an opinion but did you really have to write so much negativity under the kids episode?
@@soniairak80 How is it negative? It's an honest raw and imo a good question. It's nothing negative about his sin, it's actually a question of new purpose and change. so let me ask you, what makes you "feel" it's negative? and be detailed
@@LetsBHonestIf you believe that asking him if God is humbling him on a video when his children are talking about their hurt is positive then go off bruv
@@soniairak80You need thick skin. I think they're asking a question, not a statement about if Carl at one point felt that. Nothing wrong that when we sin or if our ego is big, sometimes things happen our in lives where we suddenly go through the storms of life that sometimes humbles us, a lesson of life if you will. The children are fine and are in a better place. It won't trigger their pain.
The oldest daughter is so impressive!!! She’s so introspective and thoughtful. I was really charmed by her this episode.
The ripple effect of human error is palpable. These young people are living through feelings of abandonment that no child should experience. The courage to speak their truth is a beautiful thing to witness. ❤
RESTORATION - beautiful family, praying for all the best your way 🤙🏼
Tears is joy. Thank you.
This is such a blessing, everything! thank you for being so open, so honest, so transparent. What you are doing as a family is truely speaking so loud about the Grace of God. This really builds up the Body of Christ, you are a blessing, we pray for you
The kids are very affected by the rejection of some of those people who where not there with them in the bad and sad moments of their life. But I would say, forgive them and let God fight for you.
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After I raised up to 525k trading with her I bought a new House and a car here in the states🇺🇸🇺🇸 also paid for my son's surgery….Glory to God, shalom.
Can I also do it??? My life is facing lots of challenges lately
I love the emphasis of both/and. In that same way, I know that there's a lot of details that aren't shared in this video, but would it not be weird for grown adults of the opposite gender to be reaching out to these kids? Can prayer and interceding for these children and this family not be done from afar? Again, there's a lot of nuances of relationships that I, as someone who stumbled across this video randomly, won't know, but that's something I'm wondering about.
Really enjoyed the first 2 episodes, now it's starting to feel like we need to feel sorry for Carl.
That's what manipulation is for.
That's just it. He's obscene.
We miss you here at church . Thank you for showing us God and leading a church like no one else can.
As a pastor’s kid, this pod broke my heart. God, mature your church past condemnation to see everyone like you do.
forgiveness is one thing, trust is another. We all make mistakes. God forgives those that honestly repent. Lets be honest and say their are wolves in the church. Look at the recent Benny Hinn scandal - Mike Winger. Hinn keeps appologising, but keeps trying to use tricks to make money. Carl should step away from Church leadership and get a real job. Documentary shows there was more problems in Hillsong than the one affair.
feel sorry for those kids, facing unfair public scrutiny for the sins of the father,
These videos are perhaps the realest and most wholesome and hope giving thing on the internet rn. Thank you for humbly displaying your lives to the goodness and grace of God
Carl, I admire how you have taken complete ownership for your past indiscretion and you've never made any excuses. Your children seem to be well adjusted emotionally, highly articulate for such a young age. I appreciate the way you let them be completely honest with their raw emotions and you allow them to speak from their hearts. Thank the Lord for new beginnings. His grace is sufficient.
Ownership is everything. This will change things generationally. ❤
as a pastor’s wife and mom to 2 little ones, it reaffirms my stance to always make my children a priority over the congregation
i love our church and support my husband by making sure his family is not crumbling when he gets home
making family a priority while in ministry is a non negociable
THANK YOU to all of you for your vulnerability and openness
The moment Roman (especially at his age) put his hand out to his sister to comfort her, says SO much about the love and respect this family has for one another. 💗
I noticed it as well. Beautiful❤️
Agreed!
Loved that and when he mouthed to his mum (around 54 min) "I'm hungry" seemed so real.
As a former member of Hillsong NYC when Pastor Carl was the pastor, I always wondered about how the children were. I’m so glad to hear from them and see the growth. I wasn’t close to their family, but my natural instinct was to pray for their children, so hearing that they didn’t have the support they needed was disheartening. People are by your side when you’re soaring high, but you really know your true supporters when you experience tough tines.
Hellsong is a heretical church and now he goes to another heretical church
@@bibleman7757where do you go bible man?
Thank you for standing beside them in prayer.
@@bibleman7757 your point ?
@bibleman7757 God is faithful. His Spirit promises to guide His beloved into all truth. What he begins, He finishes well, no matter where people find themselves.
His daughters reciting his altar call got me 🤣 great episode love this family!
😂😂😂
Absolutely BLOWN AWAY by the emotional/spiritual maturity & wisdom in these beautiful children!!!! Praying for you guys, to Him be the glory!!!
It shows that the parents did something right ❤ Perhaps the most important things 🙏
Mannnnnnnnn! These kids had me crying!!! What BEAUTIFUL BLESSED SMART ARTICULATE VULNERABILE AND HONEST HUMAN BEINGS THERE ARE!!!! I’m blown away that kids this young can express themselves so perfectly ❤❤❤❤
I felt bad for Ava 😢 i can't imagine the sadness of seeing the people who considered friends turn their backs. God bless you princess.
The way the little bro comforts his crying sister by rubbing her arm made me cry. (27:10) What an incredible bunch of kids. Wow
Me too. The kids will stick together.
This conversation is like a water to thirsty soul .... Pure, vulnerable, and humbling.
It must be a vulnerable and humbling position to let your kids share about family life at home. I’ve heard the quote “your kids are your real resume”
Carl and Laura truly gave their kids the mic in this episode and all 3 beamed with so much wisdom, maturity, and honesty. I would love to have this kind of connection and deep conversations with my kids one day.
I’m not someone to ever comment on videos I watch on RUclips, but I wanted to say Thank you Letz family for opening your heart and be so vulnerable in a platform that can still be evil and judgmental but you still decided to put yourself out there to help people.
I was your Son’s age when my Dad was unfaithful to my Mom and he had a child as result of that infidelity. After a lot of work and healing my Dad is also an example of God’s Grace and his life has being transformed, my parents are still happily married and going stronger than ever.
Now, I am 35 years old women and I wish there was someone at that time to walk with me thru my pain, or even videos like this listening to brave kids like yours that have gone thru similar situations that would’ve encouraged me and helped me with my healing process.
Proud of your kids to shared their heart and show their feelings as is not easy. ❤
I pray that this channel will be a platform that will help a lot of families, a channel that glorifies God and a perfect example of God’s Grace because I believe in it , is real and I’ve seen it in my own family. ❤
I’m 28. I’m a PK. I love my Dad, he’s hard working and loving and will suffer for the benefit of the congregation. But I was never his priority. The congregation was. Our relationship has improved over the last few years. But he didn’t come to many important moments for me…. This one hit me
Yep. Have seen that, never ever worth putting congregation over family
I'm with you brother, same here. My father and I are working through that as well.
❤. NO WORDS.❤❤ Children of ministers are taken to be ministers (which I am/was) even at young ages , without the experiences of parents and if others put that pressure it is supposed to be reduced by parents. I'm glad there is an awareness for this. I'm 24 (soon)year old girl from Nigeria , I didn't want to be too spiritual because I didn't want my children to have so much pressure. Now that I just Lord the Lord so much and want to be more into him , I'm glad I'm seeing this to help me with my future children
This is how beautiful God can restore anyone. Such a beautiful family.
This is hands down one of, if not the, most impactful podcast episodes for families I have ever listened to. So grateful for the Lentz family for doing this.
And in full transparency, I say this as a Christian that used to be a big time Carl Lentz detractor, to say the least. I just say that to let you all know that you’re using the platform God gave you to literally change hearts and minds… keep up the great work, God Bless!
This is so beautiful! This family went through hell but they came out of the fire and are so close! Beautiful to watch!
It is so powerful to see the kid's points of view. They need a voice in this as well. I love how well they can articulate their feelings. They endured just as much. What the devil meant for evil, God turned for Good. Praying for wholeness and full restoration for this family. Gloryyyy to God.
Nothing is ever wasted. God is a restorer of all things. Love this for ya’ll ! ❤
Glad these 3 kids acknowledged their mother’s strength and pure love for her family
The kid, “We ran the show” wow, this family is missing a lot of humility. Dad, “It’s my turn, It’s my show”. “We still have an entourage” 🤦🏾♀️ Cornerstone tattooed on you should have a meaning of God being the Cornerstone not just a song reference. Telling someone to F- off, because of your father’s actions is crazy. They didn’t owe you anything, your dad did.
I can’t continue to listen to this crap. This is another podcast a lot of people can do without and concerning that so many people are right back in. You preached one thing and did things differently in the household. I am so over church folks pretending and church celebrity culture.
This is painful to watch. Because there is no Gospel it's all back to just humanistic motivational processing.
The whole series has been that but I think this is TC motto. Humanism sprinkled with the gospel
I love how every time the kids explained their thoughts and feelings, you told them it was beautiful. You didn’t argue or get defensive. It gave the kids the opportunity to truly share. Love love love this episode!🩵
Gives hope for my kids struggling
Hopefully it’s True 😢
It’s a staged podcast
I don’t think it’s the truth . My ex husband cheated and did go off with the woman and our children cried for six months. They struggled so badly. It did all calm down but that is the first time my children were rocked to the core . Cheating is a selfish act it disgusts me . The damage left behind.
For this reason I was sobbing and felt like my heart was even healing as he said I hear you etc etc. @@helenmapleston628
@@helenmapleston628
Dang sorry to hear that :(
Agreed selfish of him, and he doesn’t think on a deeper level of life ! Would you ever take him back ?
Like she did…..
that’s why carls story is so delusional to me ! And everyone is keep saying how inspirational it is ! There getting financial gain from this and she’s 1 and 1 million of a person taking him back !
This was the most beautiful video I’ve seen in a long time about Redemption and Restoration. Praying for continued healing for this family 🙏🏾
First 2 episodes are ❤🔥... never waited for a premiere before but here I am. Bless you and your whole family Carl!
I'm so proud of this family, truly. They are living epistles of healing and redemption. This is the gospel story.
I’m wondering what type of parenting goes on with their family? Is it Christ/biblically centered? As a Christian we should be set apart from the world, or striving to be set apart. But to hear several cuss words so freely rolling out of the two girls hurts my heart. What does it mean to follow Jesus? It’s giving me a glimpse into the mega church pastor life/world.Sadly this is very common. I understand the pain these precious kids have been through and I do not hold them responsible for even the language that is coming out, it’s a product of the environment. I also realize the two girls are older now and are walking out their own process, but I guess I’m just wondering what is being taught to kids, teenagers concerning The Gospel, what does it mean to be a disciple of Jesus? I am very grateful that The Lentz’ are sharing their journey, I admire this. Just a burden for Jesus to be glorified in our lives like He deserves and demands. As a pastor and parent I’m asking The Lord to help me as well.
The Lentzes got together in Sydney, Oz at the inception and height of the emergent church. The emergent church thought it was toeing the line and pushing the envelope on Christian foundational truths. The fact is it was miles over the line, but didn't know it. The deception was that if you're not a religious, uptight pharisee, you'll be "a new kind of Christian " (Brian McLaren). You'll be nicer about sin (compromise happily), get tats, cuss a lot, drink Bourbon, smoke pipes and cigars, etc They were early hipsters. Lentz came of age under the shadow of people like Rob Bell. They changed all the rules, but kept "Christ". Phase 1 emergent phase 2 deconstruction phase 3 apostasy. These kids have maybe never been around orthodoxy.
Poor babies 💔💔💔, so sorry you had to go through that. The adults have failed you!!! Sending positive energy to the entire Lentz family ❤
When the little brother grabbed his sister to support her, wow that was everything for me ❤❤💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
I caught that too!!! Teared me up! What the enemy meant for bad, God turned it around for good!!!
Yes so beautiful to see how close they are...
SAME! 😭
SAME. Roman, the brother is precious. I really love hearing from all of them. The whole family. Grateful for the work done and the fruit of it here. My dad was a cheater and an addict and died at the age of 43 from an overdose (I was 13 yrs old). After he died I picked up his habits until Jesus saved me from myself. I am 48 now, and have a beautiful family of my own but would have loved if my family could have gone through this type of recovery/healing work together. I am as close to my family as we are able to be wiht out ALOT of triggers, but the closesness the Lentz's share now is precious. I did my own recovery with counselors, AA the church, etc for years and still have tune ups to this day. Grateful for this story to be heralded because it is possible for restoration and recovery!
Agreed!
Wow Carl, let’s go! What he said about telling Laura, “what she thinks she needs to know” instead of telling her the truth and how that is a form of lying and manipulation….. preach!
I also have to give props to Laura for staying and fighting for her marriage. I truly hope they live happily ever after. You go girl! ❤
This the 3rd episode that I am watching and I have to say, I have never watched something so candid and honest in the American podcast/ tv atmosphere ! Congratulations !! May God bless this family abundantly
My dad was a Pentecostal pastor that fell because of infidelity, he fathered a child out of wedlock. My parents split and in his absence, a Sunday school teacher took advantage of me and I was repeatedly molested. By the time I was 10, I was severely scarred. Emotionally, physically and spiritually. I spoke out and was called a liar. As a result my mother was asked to leave the church. We were shunned. My siblings and I are still trying to navigate life with pain, shame and mistrust. To most people the church is a place of refuge and healing, to us, it’s the source of our trauma and pain. I wish my 12 year old self had the opportunity to find healing. Thanks for doing this.
God LOVES YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. I’m sorry for your hurt and I hope Jesus heals you!
I on behalf of so many Christian’s that get it wrong and don’t act anything like Christ want to apologize to you and your family for failing you so miserably and failing to represent the grace and mercy of Jesus! I wish I could hug you and say this to your face. Even so, sweetheart I promise you that God is good! ❤
Pray that you find healing.. sorry you had to go through so much.. hope you find healing.. I can’t imagine the pain.. but there is hope I. Christ not on religion or people. 🙏🏼💕
Some time we judge right away.. instead of helping our own Cristians people.. we don’t realized the damage that the kids go through. So easy to judge when we should be there for them.. not what he did was right but help out and see where does it come from.. I feel bad for this children.. god heal their hear and family..🙏🏼
I am so sorry for your pain. I pray that healing and the gospel of reconciliation would come on your family in the most incredible way!!!!
I’ve been there with fake church people.. I served the “church” with my whole heart for years, and when I was not okay mentally or emotionally. When I fell the only one who picked me up where my siblings, 3 real friends, but mostly Jesus. Then he sent me to a church that wasn’t under a religious spirit and I slowly reconnected to community
Carl Lentz created the "religious spirit" of the NYC church.
@@RecalledtoLifeInteresting comment. The emergent church was a reaction to what they called religiosity, phariseeism, and zealous republican politics/nationalism. So they judged much, became prideful, religious democrats. Equally zealots. Equal and opposite, but no different than the church they had judged.
He ofend the church, he betray the church, the church is the victim.
As someone who is a pastor in training, this entire series is so refreshing to listen to and witness. Thank you to the Lentz family for this! ❤
I have to say I came across this video not sure what to expect from it! And I was blown away by how genuine you all were as a family sitting down having a conversation about how they went through and how they felt by friends they thought were genuine to having them leave and also what people were saying on the social media. I dont know you guys at all. Could I be the first to apologise cause I know I made a comment made purely based on a judgement on what Carl did to his family. we all full short and we all have things we are dealing with before GOd some people may go through their sinful parts in private others in the spotlight. I am a former Pastors kid so do understand where all this can come from and how hard it is to feel like my Dad doesn't have time for me apart from his need to look after the flock of the church etc. I also really love the way your kids Carl, talked about what they love about you now and how you are around the house. Its like you have had the lights turned on, you are awake. you aren't running on adrenaline, you are intentional about making your wife and family number one and everything under that. I am so glad to hear that there is a church family you belong to now. I also really love the fact that you are in a church that is so much more Holy Spirit lead then presentation or scripted lead. Praise God for the right people around you, thank you to God that he is intentional about redemption, healing, restoring, bringing hope. I was very blessed from listening to you all chat together, I would lo hear more of you'll again! God Bless you!
I learned so much from your children in this podcast!! Give them a big THANK YOU for their honesty, openness, and vulnerability!! God is using all of you in big ways 🙏 🙌
God bless these children, heal them from the “church hurt” ❤️🙏🏾❤️
The son...so practical. Does not need the hype. love it.
Y’all are INCREDIBLE! You girls & Roman are so brave and courageous to be so real and raw about your church hurt! You guys are going to offer so much healing to others through using your mess as your message. Your family is going to be so much farther reaching than you were at Hillsong because now you have fermented you are pouring wine not juice! God can use anything. He does not waste a hurt! I applaud you all! Won’t He do it!!! ♥️ What a legacy the Lentz family will leave because they did the hard crap! God is so good and people really suck sometimes BUT GOD!
Their "church hurt". You mean their "Dad hurt" don't you.
I lost my wife to cancer after 22 years of marriage. She was the closest thing to perfect. She was my best friend, confidant and the only person I could've counted to have my back no matter what. This song really brings tears to my eyes and made me ask the same question" What is love, if it's not guaranteed? What is love if she's not here with me?' Now I realize that love and life are just beautiful vacations that need to be enjoyed as they're never guaranteed to last forever. I won't forget the last thing she said to me before losing consciousness " Don't allow yourself to be distracted from living your life. The only things you're guaranteed to take away from this life are your last meal and the memories.
wow! this is potentially the most needed space and conversation in the Christian and cultural discourse! thank you so much to the Lentz family! Your uncalculated honesty and transperency breathes out so much of the hope of the new way of life Jesus is inviting us all into if we're willing.
I have watched all 3 episodes of your podcast and it makes me fall more in love with Jesus and His redeeming grace. He doesn’t waste any of our sufferings. He picks up the broken pieces of our messy lives when we give it to Him and He makes something so beautiful. The latter Glory will be so much greater than the former. So proud of your family. Thank you for your transparency. Blessings!
One thing worse than adultery is leaving a broken friend in his rejection from the world... You don't leave a friend. Friendship is holy.
15:26 can we ask how Transformation church leader is a one man show again. There's not much accountability to scripture or elders that help Mike Todd be accountable to the word. He has confessed to not wanting to read the word for teaching so he rather entertain and mostly have loud worship. It's good that the kids have faith in the church but the Faith is suppose to be in Christ the Hope of eternal Glory and our faith resides in the salvation from an eternal fiery end. Maybe since it's just the start hopefully there's more context to scripture not just empotional ups and downs.
Family is everything! God bless this family always.
What a beautiful conversation! So much insight and healing and I'm here for it. Would definitely love more conversations featuring your children. Thank you all so much for sharing and God bless you all❤
There is so much Gold in these podcasts. Every leader and pastor should be watching this. Thank you so much for your openness and vulnerability.
I agree! This should be a part of every ministerial school curriculum.
Screenfree is not impossible. At least until 16 or 18. I heard Simon Cowell say he doesn't have a smartphone. My brother is an Electrical Engineer/ computer engineer who did not have a smartphone until his girls were driving.
Due to church scandals, wrong church doctrine and a devastating diagnose health issue I found out at the age of 12 , I became an atheist when I was almost 13 years old.. I was a notorious hard-core atheist who did a 180 and became a follower and believer in Jesus. . I have been praying for the Lentz kids after I heard the news. Laura ,Carl and your family : you are amazing and may God do exceedingly beyond what we can think or imagine.
Thank you for praying for them during such an extreme time. 🙏
It's beautiful to see young people talk about a personal relationship with Jesus outside of the institution. We need more young people like this who desire the Lord's presence and not just another program. The Lentz children are so anointed, authentic, and set apart! Praise God for how He is using this family's story for His glory!🙏
This is powerful, being able to give the children a voice
Why did lentz throw up the devil horns at the end?
My heart breaks for yall kids. It is a lesson for us adults to support people that are down. We don't usually think that way. It's a lesson for me personally now not to discard someone just because they fell. We all fall at some point. This is life, it is not guaranteed that you will always be squeaky clean. We need to humble ourselves. 🙏
Agreed!
These kids are so well mannered and well-spoken . Very respectful and centered . I love how they spoke about their own relationship with God besides the church. Good job, parents 👌🙏
Carl, I don't care at all if I get hate for this... I could see the sincerity, genuine anguish, and brokenness in you the entire time you were living in deceit/addiction and also presenting the Gospel. I believe that you've always been a fighter and you will always continue to be.
A righteous man falls down but always gets back up. Don't ever stop getting back up, no matter how many people enjoy hating on you for falling or enjoy watching you pay for it. Those who think they have little to forgive or don't understand how much they've been forgiven of will love little. Those who deeply know how much they have been forgiven will love much. Your family is the biggest proof of who you are that I have seen yet, btw! Proud of you and what God is STILL doing in your life. Blessings! (Your wife and kids are AMAZING.)
This is such a great post. I think it’s wonderful how you could always see his essence, even in the worst of times. That is exactly what God does.
I know the kids happily did this, and im not a parent but
I think its wrong to expose your kids to this. Whether from good intentions or not, its using them and theyre not mature enough for this
Wow this is really beautiful interview made me cry a few times. Carl helped me so much in my early christian walk. I was heart broken when the insta post came out in 2020. these kids are so wise I loved when Roman said we are a healthy family and not dysfunctional. That is a testament to all the hard work that you guys put in to keep the family together. Lots of families are not together or together yet dysfunctional because they don’t put in the work. Carl I know you messed up but you are a good leader and father.
I hope people that see this, see the destruction that happens to our kids when we fall. It breaks my heart and I pray that you all continue to heal. Let your story be a true testament to how God can restore.
Absolutely!! Well said- sin devastates EVERYONE. To see these babes cry and feel abandoned and makes my eye water! Birthday, graduation, life achievements ect- They missed their people friends... church family. So sad- beautiful kids
Do the kids need to be included on RUclips? Sounds like they are taking on a lot of adult feelings and responsibilities. I hope their healing is prioritized without being pulled into the adult stuff.
I think it’s important they’re included cos seeing them talk about their hurt is a reminder to me, of how my bad decisions would not just affect me, but affect everyone else around me. So moving on, for my every action, I have to constantly ask how it’s going to affect my family.
Unbelievable they are doing this publicly. They love attention. Take care of your family matters privately.
I said that earlier.
I don't know them - but all I see is self focused fame hungry parents raising the kids, they swear, drink, do drugs and have just gone further into self-examination and pity at times, focusing on themselves rather than looking for outward healing and selflessness.
They care about working on themselves, working on their family, but no real discussion of how they've made it up to others, what they're trying to do better for others...
Carl and Laura spent a lot of the last podcast complaining about people who they decided weren't good friends because they didnt do what they would've done(which i dont believe). Their kids have picked it up too.
The most beautiful family🤍! I am in awe at the emotional and spiritual intelligence your children carry. They are so well spoken.
It never matters who messes up in the family bc it’s ultimately up to everyone to pick up the pieces. Not to say someone isn’t to blame or there’s no accountability to be taken but to make it work.. it takes EVERYONE to put in work and save the family. I speak from experience. Congrats to all of you for putting in the work! I wish you nothing but the best.
I’m so happy they’re okay. God is so good and faithful.
God has such a plan for this beautiful family. The power of forgiveness and restoration. The gift of wisdom in the kids is amazing. May God get all the glory amen
I can empathize with these kids even as a 45 year old woman. While I never went through the things they did publicly, I was a music pastor’s kid and we got dropped like this quite often. Anytime we went to another church my dad was villionized. People would not speak to us and neither would their kids who were my fiends. I often would feel this way like we’re just kids. Why would you treat us this way. We didn’t do anything.
there's nothing wrong with therapy or "doing the work", but where is the credit to Christ for your life saved, relationship with spouse and children restored, etc? there isn't much recognition of Christ's role in any of this, haven't heard him mentioned much if at all throughout this series so far.
sadly, if your friendships are transactional and not based in Christ, this is exactly the result. it seemed before that people were chosen who boosted image, not someone to truly sharpen you. my hope is that they are truly leaning into Christ for all of their needs being met, being restored and for all support, and moving forward with that in regards to friendship, marriage, parenting, ministry, etc. appreciate the humility and openness, hoping it grows in depth in Christ.
People, this is the true church. GOD IS ALWAYS IN CONTROL OF OUR STORY. THIS FAMILY WENT THROUGH THE SHAKING AND IN THAT GOD SHOOK THE TREE AND THE WEAK FALSE COULD NOT STAND!!!!
Sometimes we have to go through a refining experience to get stronger. It's sad that the kids had to experience this so young though, in front of everyone. Hoping they find joy and peace through this journey. Such a great conversation, Ava and Charlie's self- awareness is incredible. Roman is so sweet and well-mannered.
I was super dubious when I first started listening to B Side but ohh my word how you have opened my eyes and encouraged my faith. Praying for you all ❤️
I feel for these kids and their pain in the relationships they lost after the stuff with Carl happened. I am very curious to see how their outlook changes as they grow up. When two men have a fallout, how does that man keep in touch with someone’s children behind that other guys back? Seems like an impossible scenario.
I also was thinking that. Parents should have addresed this problem. How do you stay in touch with a minor? How do you visit them? I dont know bow this would be manageable. Also, he was a pastor, I wondered how he and his wife would react in such a situation? How can you know how you would play it if you have never been in the same situation..
Thank you for showing the other side of impact (the children) when leaders choose to deal with conflict with out love AND wisdom.
Thank you for giving us the gift of your vulnerability
I think as a parent this shows me how careful I have to be in choosing my friends. These friends/folks were obviously not grounded believers in Christ. It is probably safe to say, they also were hiding secret sin. Hopefully as these children grow, they can extend that grace to these folks/cowards who may never experience the restoration they have. It is sad that adults may never experience the forgiveness and grace that these kids have walked through. Thank you for sharing. As a pastor’s wife of 18 yrs, mother of 7, this has been so encouraging. We are broken people, serving a faithful God. This is my take away from all 3 podcasts. I’ve been telling everyone about them. My friend has been listening to the first one with a lost coworker and it has opened so many Gospel conversations. This can only be the product of Jesus’ love and sacrifice. Thank you!
The maturity of these kids is mind blowing!!! So awesome!! What amazing kids!! Be proud!!!
Carl Lentz needs attention and now is using his children.........
Such grace and maturity in all of these kids. It’s beautiful to see how they’ve grown as a family despite everything.
This teared me up. Sometimes church could be the thing that hurts and drives people away from Jesus. It's amazing that these kids got closer to Jesus through this experience.
This family is a true story of redemption in Jesus.
Do you miss church? His daughter answered...... "HELL NO". His wife is dropping F bombs, his kids hate the church... This guy wreaked his family and really damaged his kids view of the church! This is just sad.
Both parents clearly raised these kids to be amazing human beings.
I'm ABSOLUTELY AMAZED SEEING HOW GOD CAN TAKE A mess & TURN IT INTO BEAUTY,YA'LLS STORY IS SO SO INSPIRING & ENCOURAGING!!! I'LL KEEP ALL OF YOU IN MY PRAYERS❤THANKFUL & GRATEFUL GOD LEAD ME TO THIS VIDEO🫶🎉❤
I commented earlier, but just wanted to highlight this conversation is going to help so many people. The children’s insight on the impact of social media alone is gold. A lot of parents don’t understand why their children struggle with certain things because they don’t realize how much of an impression social media makes on this generation. This needs to be heard by teenage parents everywhere!
Thank you for showing us how the whole family can be healed through painful events ! I enjoyed listening to the side of Pastors Lentz children
You have amazing children. You've done something great with them. Praying for you and your family that God's love and grace surround you all the days of your life.
Big SHOUTOUT to the kids y’all strength shine so bright ☀️✝️🤗
Those people that did not reach out may have wanted to reach out, but their parents told them not to text, call or visit. Hopefully, they loved you in the prayer closet. The church is a war zone at times because of the devil. Jesus is the restorer & near the brokenhearted. Thank you for videos. I watched all 3. I never was into Hillsong, but this is good to see God's amazing grace heal this family.
This is an excellent discussion.
When I look at you guys, you are the epitome of forgiveness and fight for the family!
God bless each of you!
This is powerful!!! So many tears! So thankful for what the Lord has done in your family!! Hallelujah!! Praise God!!! Thank you for sharing. Heaven is rejoicing ❤❤❤