As you stated, many who are MA6 and above are giving guidance to f2p players that they should skip the MA5 research (with one exception) and move towards K41 and MA6 research because it's more cost efficient (better buffs for the cost) regarding tactic scrolls and speed-ups. The exception is the Siege Machine Formation: Strike III (march size) buffs in MA5.
Hello Aka and everyone in the comment section. Watching the video and reading the comments was a blast and was really helpful this time and I encourage everyone to have a look at the comments made. It will help anyone to make a good informed choice! Well done Aka, You’re bringing us all together. Thank You!
Thanks bro, this is so timely because I've been wrestling with this exact decision for the past few weeks. Decided to go for MA6 and MA7 because I've faced K40s and K41s who have T15s and I'm beating them comfortably so I don't see the significant advantage they are gaining. But K42s without T15s are able to consistently whoop my ass.
This! I have T15 ground open. But opted to go K41 before opening the rest - because with my buffs I can easily kill t15 if the opponent doesn't have similar buffs to me. (My range is 3K already.....) But now that I've nearly completed MA6, I am opening T15 before I go K42....
I think both sides were laid out very well, and I'm glad you went so far into talking about MA5 then MA6. The decision a player makes at k40 between t15s and advancing the military academy is crucial, because its going to shape the way they play for quite a while (unless they are a mega coiner). I do wish you had gone a little further and included MA7 as well. My reasoning is because the choice, as a lot of people see it, is: 1) unlock your t15s OR 2) go straight to k42 for MA7 to enhance your buffs, as they are quite significant compared to MA5 as you said. That being said, your argument about having the resources (tactic scrolls) to do research is more than fair. RealBarbLife had the same commentary a while back, and went with t15s exactly for this reason. However, I want to counter against the t15 route based on my own experience. I had an insanely hard time earning red wings and unlocking wonder 3 (5 attempts 😵💫) because my my buffs could not handle the power level I had grown to. Note, this was without t15s. As you rightly said, some people will get too excited and overtrain t15s. Again, I think you laid it out super well, but I would advise caution about building t15s (or even unlocking them, just to mitigate the urge to build excessive t15s for your buffs) if wonder 3 is still not unlocked and is a goal. its too hard if you're too fat. Thanks for coming to my TedTalk 🤣
👀 how did you go about it? I'm recently k40, 9.5b, and no t15s yet. I want to get my red wings but I do know I shoulda done it when I was smaller 😂😂😂 I plan on finishing regular academy 40 next before I work on bringing the troop buildings to 40 (all 37 currently but pretty much everything else is 39. Rally is 40; that was my first k40 goal after keep lol).
@@RLys-gk3cl please read what ruckus said, and reconsider the decision to upgrade more of your barracks, much less upgrading all of them simultaneously. Put your rss toward toward MA6/7/8. the massive delay from unlocking all your t15s first will mean your buffs will be so far behind everyone else's if w3 is your goal
@@RLys-gk3cl exactly what Alarick said was my issue - my buffs were way behind the power I was at at the time (around 8B with 1800s across the board more or less). There were a multitude of reasons my buffs were low that I had to adjust. The other issue I had to address was the amount of power we were signing for battlefield. It had to be low enough that I could kill every opponent, but high enough to garner enough points for alliance and personal ranking.
Great to see you put the video together Aka. A few extra things I would like to include on T15s is yes, they are great as an additional layer in your battles, but they are also much stronger than T14s. They are also worth less points/power. The additional layer for rallies is also nothing to scoff at. Having a small layer of T15 archers helps protect your T14 and below archers from defending siege. (T9-T12 siege attack archers on a defense) A small layer of 10,000 T15 siege will greatly help your siege marches as well. This protects your siege from the enemy, and is enough siege to kill the enemy archer tower. T15 siege is also faster than T14 and therefore attacks first. T15 Ground has higher base defense and HP which makes them even tankier. The usefulness of Ground improves more than any other troops as the tier goes up. T15 Mounted is obviously better for monsters. Last but not least, having T15s greatly improve your solo march vs solo march (think fighting over a building) This can also be used for other events that are solo marches, such as alliance duel or expedition. Figure out what strategy works best for you and your setup.
K40, Rally Spot 40, MA5--- down to the march size research, and then evaluate from there. Its totally subjective depending on if you're a main boss killer, trap keep, rally keep, etc.
I’ve done a lot of MA5 whilst I did K41 ready to start MA6, I’ve ran out of scrolls so many times 😢 I should be good to start MA6 at the consumption event, hopefully get a bit of research done there before Allstars🤞I only have bits left of MA5 to do but will go back to that later. I’ve held of opening T15s as I believe tech works better for me. I’ll be doing K41 army camp and rally spot after MA6 is open and then going back to bringing buildings up to Keep level. T15s can be put on hold for now
Hi Red Evony I'm at k40, almost finished M5, but I'm not thinking about 15T, I'm focusing on 41k and M 6, only after I have 42k and M7 I'll train 15T, I think the 15Ts are not strong enough without M 7.
Hi 👋 Whether the T15s are strong or not would depend on a lot of things, research included. But I believe it would still be better to unlock them and have them ready for whenever you want 👍
This video is really helpful for people like me, I just upgraded my keep at k40,and I wasn't sure what to do now. I'm pretty in the same situation, out of tactics scrolls, so I'll follow this advice.
Hey Aka!! Great video as usual!! I have a slightly different view, not necessarily a disagreement. I started MA5 with about 100k scrolls. Have gotten all the things to the minimum so everything is open. Also maxed the regular academy. I'm a firm believer in research. Tech power is about 191m right now. Right now I'm working on unlocking t15's. By that I mean I'm doing everything to be able to open every training facility. Walls, archer tower, market, embassy war hall. Those are needed to upgrade all the training facilities. Rally spot is done already. The reason I did MA5, was to slowly do research while I was working on the buildings. Maybe this is the 3/4 condition.......😅 I'd say the right path for you is the one that you feel the most comfortable with based on the way you play and what your goals are. Keep the videos coming!!!!
@@GregCT3 Keep in mind people have different strategies for the game. Me personally, I would never do what you suggest here. If it works for you, great!!! But I have a different idea for what's best for me and my style. I've always been a balanced player and level everything pretty evenly. My OCD would never let me skip to k43....
@@butchsimpson9670 please understand greg is trying to help you. keeping all your buildings at your current keep level will end up strangling your growth. It didn't make a difference at k25, but at k40+ it isn't just impractical it will end up harming you and your team's performance. but hey maybe it's better to let you be 'balanced' and we will get to relax if we see you on the battlefield
@@AlarickTheFourth I'm all about suggestions and information. I didn't take it as anything negative. I hope he didn't take mine as a negative. As far as buildings, I mean the ones that you need to grow, embassy, war hall, market, etc. not the unimportant ones. I plan on getting t15s unlocked and then it will just be keep, walls, rally spot, and academy until I hit k44. Then I'll worry about catching up to be ready to unlock t16. When I comment or give advice, it's more of a "here's what I do and why I do it" then "do it this way". Sorry if I came across as negative, wasn't my intention.
I appreciate your take and the effort you put into your videos! But this time I don't agree. "Don't train troops you can't defend" I believe applies to t15s if you are not a super-coiner. Leave your barracks at level 35. Focus on buffs and tech over troops any day, because the years it will take to unlock all the t15s will leave your buffs behind others and you'll end up less competitive. MA7 gives a 30% march size increase. I personally think speed running to k42 to unlock MA7 first makes more sense with the caveat players know to save their tactic scroll stash for that purpose. You get the increased march size from the level 42 rally spot as well. Later on you can go back to work on earlier MA levels, and in this scenario, your keep will have the higher buffs you need to more effectively defend the t15s you want to unlock
Thank you 😊🙏 Yeah, a lot of people favor the tech route, and that's a fair way to look at it. But it still comes down to the tactic scrolls, which is quite a big bottleneck. But if you can get past that, then the research is good 👍
I'm k40 and at this exact point in the game. I'm gonna go MA5 first because I believe you need the tech to back those t15s.. seen several k40s with t15s get man handled ... just my opinion.. I'd love for you to take a look at my account.. currently 11b power
I've completed all tech MA1-4 and academy.. and my tactic scrolls are just building up.. it's been about 3 months.. rally spot will be after MA5 then t15s
I'm currently at this position. I'm newly K41 and I upgraded all prereq buildings for t15, and I've gotten the t15 cavs. I almost finished with MA5 research. For me, I think I'll upgrade my rally spot first. Just finished upgrading the army camp. Then, I think I will upgrade to MA6, because I'm getting close to running out of MA5 research. Then I am going back to finish off my t15's.
Hi AKA, for a low coiner like me, I preferred to do k40 and then ma5, the other buildings are still at 37, too many resources and difficult to raise. I preferred to work on buffs until I reach t15, it helps a lot with the troops I have. More buff and bigger march helps me to take bigger monsters with less victims, so more resources to increase the buildings, obviously it also helps in pvp. But it's just an opinion.
Yeah, that's a consideration 👌 In practice, I've found it plays out a bit differently. You either have to focus on research, or on unlocking T15s. It's difficult to do both at the same time
The order is always keep, research building, than the rally spot! Then you can build troops and do research at the same time, but try to do more research if possible! Scrolls are hard to get, especially with ma5 and the amount you need!
oh dear, you are usually right about so many things, but here you are missing the plot. MA and the rally spot are absolutely the key factors of k40. You think about an extra defense layer, but with the *t1 traps* do you really think the t15s layers are that important? March size and buffs are way more important. If I would give advice would be this: build rally spot immediatly, than MA5. Afterwards unlock t15 ground and archer troops, train about 100k of those, and speed up to K42. After MA7, than start doing cav and siege t15 and ramping up your power. MA research should focus only on march size and siege research, saving tactic scrolls. Otherwise you are producing meat, Aka.
As I mentioned in the video, I don't dispute that doing MA5 and beyond would be beneficial. The critical factor is tactic scrolls. If, for example, I have only 6k tactic scrolls, going to MA5 and beyond won't be beneficial to me because I can't do much research with that amount of scrolls. 😅😅. Aside from that, I think T15s would still be better in that situation. 😇😇 Also, the T15s are not meant for killing T1 traps. 😉
Aka, those 6000 tactic scrolls can be used to unlock Strike III at MA5 that gives you 30% march size increase. That with the rally spot is a huge increase of your march size. March size is more important than having t15s. You do not need to do more on MA5, actually. I have now march sizes of about 4.2M troops which is huge, and it shows. A t11 solo siege attack gives me many times positive power exchanges. It is good also for monster hunting, I can even do B19 using ramune. With t14s! I was wondering how you arrived so fast to t15s, and there you go, you neglected MA5 and the rally spot.
T15 siege is the only one I saw a noticeable boost from unlocking...if I could do it over again I'd unlock siege at 40 then goto 44 before unlocking the rest.
That's very interesting Especially considering that Siege is the hardest to unlock. I've had some people tell me the opposite on T15 siege 😅. I guess you had developed in a way that made them more worthwhile 💪
@RedEvony yeah the one extra speed they have do something big with the mechanics. I started going positive on siege solos against people I was usually negative against, i cant say that about any other t15. If you don't have the buff to back it they wouldn't be as useful though
Thank you Aka, Now if I can only remember while I save the needed rss to get out of K38 😂
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Good video I am K40 on my last building for archer t15, after that will do rally spot, MA 6, academy, then rest of the other types. Burned my speed ups in allstars doh!
Maybe a more nuanced way to decide based is on the age of your server and the level of opponents you face in SvS and bf. If you are on a newer server, and you're the biggest and first to reach k40, then you are a big coiner and t15s will help you. However, if your team is more mature with multiple k43+'s, but you are just now reaching k40 you need the MA tech more than the t15s
Hello akka 👋, I think people got confused between MA5 and MA6 who texted you comparing MA5 and t15. It have always been MA6 or MA what opens with k41 😅 ( yes some people use that sentence 😂). Buffs MA6 gives is definitely cheaper then t15 . Apart from buffs what makes MA6 important is it reduces cost of research (gold, scrools, speed ups ) of all research. What open with MA6 and below. AS PER MY KNOWLEDGE # WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD. For example if you are using 100M gold for some research opened in xyz level will cost 40M once MA6 open. would be good if you confirm
@@AlarickTheFourth not that as much as T15 ground are most effective in pvp layers from what I have seen in reports. The other troop types, T15s are just a higher meat shield
I have MA5 working on walls 40 now I have been having a hard decision on going to t15 or going MA6 HAVE SEIGE AND ARCHER most of the way done and over half way done on cav and ground i don't wanna get hung up and not have resesrch to do if I go t15 instead of trying to hit k41 and MA6 🤷🤦
The key factor would be how many tactic scrolls you have and how easy is it for you to get them 👌 If you have tons, then going to MA5 and beyond would make sense 👍
T15 buildings and training is so expensive comparatively it's better to do k40 rally spot, MA5, and level 40 research academy at a minimum before. It only becomes a question when considering k41, MA6 before t15 in my opinion.
Hello Aka, I have a question about pvp march, in your previous video you said to put 20% T11 50% T12 and 30% T13 but if we have T14 it should be 10% for both T11 and T14. My question is do we do this to all types because some of big players said for ground they put 35% T14, 35% T13, 25% T12 and 5% T11 and for cavalry march 25% T14, 30% T13, 35% T12 and 10% for T11, for seige it's the same how you said. Can you explain to me which is better. Thank you
Hi 👋 The video you are referring to was for simplified presets - A way to make it easier for all levels of players to set up their march presets. What you are talking about now is about march optimisation. In that case, the amounts of troops can be adjusted for the various troop types, as long as you are confident in the adjustments. 😇 For example, while your Ranged march would benefit from more T12s as shown in the video, an optimised Ground march would benefit from more T14s and T13s. Each march type has its own unique peculiarities. If you are not sure of what to do, just go with the simplified version 👍
t15 is good choice to go and not doubted, but without decent amount buffs, it's nothing... many people run k41 k42 without having good tech after k45 update, buffs is everything, and even with lower tiers than enemy send, you are great when the condition is your buffs is much higher than them who just having higher tiers than you but lower research simply, we've been saw how t1 kill t15, simply
t15 for monster will help with scroll. Hide in svs exept 100k . In our team we push 1 k42 for rally buffs reinforce capacity and bigger hall and the others push t15 is always about the team you have
To be clear ma5 is a rip off for buffs per scroll so I went to k43 and ma8 instead of t15 or doing most of ma5 research and I'm convinced it's the right call considering k44 and ma9 before t15 as well not fully decided.
I really like the point of unlocking ma 6 and let it be taken on first … please add monsters n events in particular from which we can have tactic scrolls
@@giorgiorianna8304 may I ask where you rank in power in your alliance? Were you one of the first to reach k40 on your server? What is your keep level now? It would help players understand why it was the right choice for you
@ i am a 16B power K41 now, i built the T15 as soon i finished the MA5 , before upgrading to K41. and yes my keep was one of the first in my server to get to K40. T15 really help in defences so when you play chalons or Allstars they do make the difference!
@@giorgiorianna8304 Sounds like you're killing it! At the pace you're growing, unlocking your t15s makes total sense. I don't believe the majority of aka's audience are coining at your level, however. What to upgrade after reaching k40 is situational. It depends on whether your largest opponents are about equal to your size/buffs, or if they are markedly stronger than you. If it's the latter, that player is surrounded by players with bigger buffs and keep levels. the more troop power they put on, the likelier it is they can't defend it and will lose points than they earn. For that latter type of player - which I argue is most of aka's audience - they need to prioritize increasing their buffs, not their troop power, so they are less of a point liability for their team. Growth for that player is much, much slower as well. What maybe took you a handful of months to unlock all your t15s could take another years to unlock all theirs. You did what was best for you in your situation, but I wouldn't recommend it for everyone
Some have said MA6 before t15. That’s what i disagree with. I’m of the gospel of T15’s before MA6. I definitely went with MA before t15’s though. Need those buffs and it’s cheaper to build.
I have 2 keeps : 1 with T15s & 1 with MA5. MA5 is way better! The T15s without research & buffs are useless. My keep with the T15s has turned into a boss farmer since it is just not that helpful in battles - until it gets better buffs.
I'm keep 38 with no t14 except Horse for the bosses, but I tell you what I built lots of t11 and t12 and I'm not doing too bad either, I like when the ranged troops splat attacking my keep😂😂😂
No point to build too many cav, I would focus on keep & building, having too many t14 cav is useless if you don't layer the other type of troop, that's the reason I'm not build too many t14 but aim for next keep level, I'm also at k38 but already ready to go k39, t11 & 12 won't help much when your top tier cav is going down fast
@@richarddavid9962 bro I just take 1 month+ from k37 to k38, now at around 2 month after k38 I'm otw to k39, this week consume RSS is coming so definitely going for that
Don't build too many t14, the better way for you is build a 300m or 500m t1 cav for your defense on svs, the more higher tier troop the most you will lost the power exchange so focus on t1 & stack your defense buff
Excelente video, thx!! Y si, el costo de ambos es una locura, pero en mi caso, se me terminan los pergaminos con MA5, toda la demás investigación, está a full, así que tú elegí los cavs t15 para poder acumular más pergaminos!!
i did ma5 first and am almost done. i am also almost ready to build the lvl40 workshop. after that? lvl41 sounds pretty good to me. screw the t15 archers. no one can hit me and the research is better than pussy stick throwers
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As you stated, many who are MA6 and above are giving guidance to f2p players that they should skip the MA5 research (with one exception) and move towards K41 and MA6 research because it's more cost efficient (better buffs for the cost) regarding tactic scrolls and speed-ups. The exception is the Siege Machine Formation: Strike III (march size) buffs in MA5.
Makes a lot of sense 👍👍
Hello Aka and everyone in the comment section. Watching the video and reading the comments was a blast and was really helpful this time and I encourage everyone to have a look at the comments made.
It will help anyone to make a good informed choice! Well done Aka, You’re bringing us all together. Thank You!
Thanks bro, this is so timely because I've been wrestling with this exact decision for the past few weeks. Decided to go for MA6 and MA7 because I've faced K40s and K41s who have T15s and I'm beating them comfortably so I don't see the significant advantage they are gaining. But K42s without T15s are able to consistently whoop my ass.
Hmmm, that's interesting
Glad you found the video interesting ☺️🙏
This! I have T15 ground open. But opted to go K41 before opening the rest - because with my buffs I can easily kill t15 if the opponent doesn't have similar buffs to me. (My range is 3K already.....) But now that I've nearly completed MA6, I am opening T15 before I go K42....
It's been great having someone one step ahead of me talking about what to look for. Thanks Aka
Very happy to hear that ☺️👍
I think both sides were laid out very well, and I'm glad you went so far into talking about MA5 then MA6. The decision a player makes at k40 between t15s and advancing the military academy is crucial, because its going to shape the way they play for quite a while (unless they are a mega coiner).
I do wish you had gone a little further and included MA7 as well. My reasoning is because the choice, as a lot of people see it, is:
1) unlock your t15s
OR
2) go straight to k42 for MA7 to enhance your buffs, as they are quite significant compared to MA5 as you said.
That being said, your argument about having the resources (tactic scrolls) to do research is more than fair. RealBarbLife had the same commentary a while back, and went with t15s exactly for this reason.
However, I want to counter against the t15 route based on my own experience. I had an insanely hard time earning red wings and unlocking wonder 3 (5 attempts 😵💫) because my my buffs could not handle the power level I had grown to. Note, this was without t15s. As you rightly said, some people will get too excited and overtrain t15s.
Again, I think you laid it out super well, but I would advise caution about building t15s (or even unlocking them, just to mitigate the urge to build excessive t15s for your buffs) if wonder 3 is still not unlocked and is a goal. its too hard if you're too fat.
Thanks for coming to my TedTalk 🤣
👀 how did you go about it? I'm recently k40, 9.5b, and no t15s yet. I want to get my red wings but I do know I shoulda done it when I was smaller 😂😂😂 I plan on finishing regular academy 40 next before I work on bringing the troop buildings to 40 (all 37 currently but pretty much everything else is 39. Rally is 40; that was my first k40 goal after keep lol).
@@RLys-gk3cl please read what ruckus said, and reconsider the decision to upgrade more of your barracks, much less upgrading all of them simultaneously. Put your rss toward toward MA6/7/8. the massive delay from unlocking all your t15s first will mean your buffs will be so far behind everyone else's if w3 is your goal
@@RLys-gk3cl exactly what Alarick said was my issue - my buffs were way behind the power I was at at the time (around 8B with 1800s across the board more or less). There were a multitude of reasons my buffs were low that I had to adjust.
The other issue I had to address was the amount of power we were signing for battlefield. It had to be low enough that I could kill every opponent, but high enough to garner enough points for alliance and personal ranking.
Awesome TedTalk 😁😁👍👍
Great to see you put the video together Aka.
A few extra things I would like to include on T15s is yes, they are great as an additional layer in your battles, but they are also much stronger than T14s. They are also worth less points/power.
The additional layer for rallies is also nothing to scoff at. Having a small layer of T15 archers helps protect your T14 and below archers from defending siege. (T9-T12 siege attack archers on a defense)
A small layer of 10,000 T15 siege will greatly help your siege marches as well. This protects your siege from the enemy, and is enough siege to kill the enemy archer tower. T15 siege is also faster than T14 and therefore attacks first.
T15 Ground has higher base defense and HP which makes them even tankier. The usefulness of Ground improves more than any other troops as the tier goes up.
T15 Mounted is obviously better for monsters.
Last but not least, having T15s greatly improve your solo march vs solo march (think fighting over a building)
This can also be used for other events that are solo marches, such as alliance duel or expedition.
Figure out what strategy works best for you and your setup.
especially glory arena
@dkaien6801 I couldn't remember the name, but yes, you are exactly right. Glory arena is another event that benefits more from tiers than buffs.
Thanks
Hey Derrick 😊👋
Thanks bro 🙏. Yeah, finally got it done 😄
And thanks for chiming in. The additional info is very insightful 🙏🙏
K40, Rally Spot 40, MA5--- down to the march size research, and then evaluate from there. Its totally subjective depending on if you're a main boss killer, trap keep, rally keep, etc.
Yeah, that makes sense.
The key factor would be how many tactic scrolls you have, or how easy it is for you to get them 😇👌
I’ve done a lot of MA5 whilst I did K41 ready to start MA6, I’ve ran out of scrolls so many times 😢 I should be good to start MA6 at the consumption event, hopefully get a bit of research done there before Allstars🤞I only have bits left of MA5 to do but will go back to that later. I’ve held of opening T15s as I believe tech works better for me. I’ll be doing K41 army camp and rally spot after MA6 is open and then going back to bringing buildings up to Keep level. T15s can be put on hold for now
Hi Red Evony
I'm at k40, almost finished M5, but I'm not thinking about 15T, I'm focusing on 41k and M 6, only after I have 42k and M7 I'll train 15T, I think the 15Ts are not strong enough without M 7.
Hi 👋
Whether the T15s are strong or not would depend on a lot of things, research included.
But I believe it would still be better to unlock them and have them ready for whenever you want 👍
This video is really helpful for people like me, I just upgraded my keep at k40,and I wasn't sure what to do now. I'm pretty in the same situation, out of tactics scrolls, so I'll follow this advice.
Glad you found it insightful ☺️☺️
Hey Aka!! Great video as usual!! I have a slightly different view, not necessarily a disagreement. I started MA5 with about 100k scrolls. Have gotten all the things to the minimum so everything is open. Also maxed the regular academy. I'm a firm believer in research. Tech power is about 191m right now. Right now I'm working on unlocking t15's. By that I mean I'm doing everything to be able to open every training facility. Walls, archer tower, market, embassy war hall. Those are needed to upgrade all the training facilities. Rally spot is done already.
The reason I did MA5, was to slowly do research while I was working on the buildings. Maybe this is the 3/4 condition.......😅
I'd say the right path for you is the one that you feel the most comfortable with based on the way you play and what your goals are.
Keep the videos coming!!!!
This is Aka's worst advice video yet go to k43 ma8 at least before t15
@@GregCT3 Keep in mind people have different strategies for the game. Me personally, I would never do what you suggest here. If it works for you, great!!! But I have a different idea for what's best for me and my style. I've always been a balanced player and level everything pretty evenly. My OCD would never let me skip to k43....
Good suggestions 😊
@@butchsimpson9670 please understand greg is trying to help you. keeping all your buildings at your current keep level will end up strangling your growth. It didn't make a difference at k25, but at k40+ it isn't just impractical it will end up harming you and your team's performance. but hey maybe it's better to let you be 'balanced' and we will get to relax if we see you on the battlefield
@@AlarickTheFourth I'm all about suggestions and information. I didn't take it as anything negative. I hope he didn't take mine as a negative.
As far as buildings, I mean the ones that you need to grow, embassy, war hall, market, etc. not the unimportant ones. I plan on getting t15s unlocked and then it will just be keep, walls, rally spot, and academy until I hit k44. Then I'll worry about catching up to be ready to unlock t16.
When I comment or give advice, it's more of a "here's what I do and why I do it" then "do it this way".
Sorry if I came across as negative, wasn't my intention.
I appreciate your take and the effort you put into your videos! But this time I don't agree. "Don't train troops you can't defend" I believe applies to t15s if you are not a super-coiner. Leave your barracks at level 35. Focus on buffs and tech over troops any day, because the years it will take to unlock all the t15s will leave your buffs behind others and you'll end up less competitive.
MA7 gives a 30% march size increase. I personally think speed running to k42 to unlock MA7 first makes more sense with the caveat players know to save their tactic scroll stash for that purpose. You get the increased march size from the level 42 rally spot as well. Later on you can go back to work on earlier MA levels, and in this scenario, your keep will have the higher buffs you need to more effectively defend the t15s you want to unlock
Thank you 😊🙏
Yeah, a lot of people favor the tech route, and that's a fair way to look at it. But it still comes down to the tactic scrolls, which is quite a big bottleneck. But if you can get past that, then the research is good 👍
I'm k40 and at this exact point in the game. I'm gonna go MA5 first because I believe you need the tech to back those t15s.. seen several k40s with t15s get man handled ... just my opinion.. I'd love for you to take a look at my account.. currently 11b power
I've completed all tech MA1-4 and academy.. and my tactic scrolls are just building up.. it's been about 3 months.. rally spot will be after MA5 then t15s
Maybe we could arrange that some time 😇
Another great video we have a member just made k40 directed to your video 😊
I'm currently at this position. I'm newly K41 and I upgraded all prereq buildings for t15, and I've gotten the t15 cavs. I almost finished with MA5 research. For me, I think I'll upgrade my rally spot first. Just finished upgrading the army camp. Then, I think I will upgrade to MA6, because I'm getting close to running out of MA5 research. Then I am going back to finish off my t15's.
That's sounds like a decent plan 😇👍
Well done so far 💪💪
Hello Aka , can you please make a vid on smelter. Smelting blazons? It's a confusing on how to proceed. Thanks Mate 👍☺️
Hi 👋
Noted 👍
Hi AKA,
for a low coiner like me, I preferred to do k40 and then ma5, the other buildings are still at 37, too many resources and difficult to raise. I preferred to work on buffs until I reach t15, it helps a lot with the troops I have. More buff and bigger march helps me to take bigger monsters with less victims, so more resources to increase the buildings, obviously it also helps in pvp. But it's just an opinion.
Yeah, that's a consideration 👌
In practice, I've found it plays out a bit differently. You either have to focus on research, or on unlocking T15s. It's difficult to do both at the same time
The order is always keep, research building, than the rally spot! Then you can build troops and do research at the same time, but try to do more research if possible! Scrolls are hard to get, especially with ma5 and the amount you need!
Yup, that's true, which is 1 of the reasons why I think going for T15s is better. It gives you time to save up tactic scrolls 😇
oh dear, you are usually right about so many things, but here you are missing the plot. MA and the rally spot are absolutely the key factors of k40. You think about an extra defense layer, but with the *t1 traps* do you really think the t15s layers are that important? March size and buffs are way more important. If I would give advice would be this: build rally spot immediatly, than MA5. Afterwards unlock t15 ground and archer troops, train about 100k of those, and speed up to K42. After MA7, than start doing cav and siege t15 and ramping up your power. MA research should focus only on march size and siege research, saving tactic scrolls. Otherwise you are producing meat, Aka.
As I mentioned in the video, I don't dispute that doing MA5 and beyond would be beneficial. The critical factor is tactic scrolls.
If, for example, I have only 6k tactic scrolls, going to MA5 and beyond won't be beneficial to me because I can't do much research with that amount of scrolls. 😅😅.
Aside from that, I think T15s would still be better in that situation. 😇😇
Also, the T15s are not meant for killing T1 traps. 😉
Aka, those 6000 tactic scrolls can be used to unlock Strike III at MA5 that gives you 30% march size increase. That with the rally spot is a huge increase of your march size. March size is more important than having t15s. You do not need to do more on MA5, actually. I have now march sizes of about 4.2M troops which is huge, and it shows. A t11 solo siege attack gives me many times positive power exchanges. It is good also for monster hunting, I can even do B19 using ramune. With t14s! I was wondering how you arrived so fast to t15s, and there you go, you neglected MA5 and the rally spot.
MA5 need 328K tactics but MA6 need around 112K tactics
Awesome info! Thanks 🙏
T15 siege is the only one I saw a noticeable boost from unlocking...if I could do it over again I'd unlock siege at 40 then goto 44 before unlocking the rest.
That's very interesting
Especially considering that Siege is the hardest to unlock.
I've had some people tell me the opposite on T15 siege 😅.
I guess you had developed in a way that made them more worthwhile 💪
@RedEvony yeah the one extra speed they have do something big with the mechanics. I started going positive on siege solos against people I was usually negative against, i cant say that about any other t15. If you don't have the buff to back it they wouldn't be as useful though
thanks friend!! I always learn a lot from your videos... happy gaming!!
Glad to help 😊👍
Thank you Aka, Now if I can only remember while I save the needed rss to get out of K38 😂
Good video I am K40 on my last building for archer t15, after that will do rally spot, MA 6, academy, then rest of the other types. Burned my speed ups in allstars doh!
Damn 😅😅
The speedup drought is real sometimes.😅
Hope you made it through to the next round though 😊💪
Maybe a more nuanced way to decide based is on the age of your server and the level of opponents you face in SvS and bf. If you are on a newer server, and you're the biggest and first to reach k40, then you are a big coiner and t15s will help you. However, if your team is more mature with multiple k43+'s, but you are just now reaching k40 you need the MA tech more than the t15s
That's an interesting way to think of it
Hello akka 👋, I think people got confused between MA5 and MA6 who texted you comparing MA5 and t15.
It have always been MA6 or MA what opens with k41 😅 ( yes some people use that sentence 😂).
Buffs MA6 gives is definitely cheaper then t15 .
Apart from buffs what makes MA6 important is it reduces cost of research (gold, scrools, speed ups ) of all research. What open with MA6 and below. AS PER MY KNOWLEDGE # WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD. For example if you are using 100M gold for some research opened in xyz level will cost 40M once MA6 open.
would be good if you confirm
Interesting 😲
I'll look into that 👍
From what I understand T15 ground are possibly the priority/most beneficial of all T15 troop types. Is this correct?
they're the cheapest? usually why most unlock them first
@@AlarickTheFourth not that as much as T15 ground are most effective in pvp layers from what I have seen in reports. The other troop types, T15s are just a higher meat shield
@@littlefinkle7757 No I don't think that is universally the case. but regardless, most players tend to unlock ground first, take that as you will
No way it's definitely siege
I have MA5 working on walls 40 now I have been having a hard decision on going to t15 or going MA6 HAVE SEIGE AND ARCHER most of the way done and over half way done on cav and ground i don't wanna get hung up and not have resesrch to do if I go t15 instead of trying to hit k41 and MA6 🤷🤦
The key factor would be how many tactic scrolls you have and how easy is it for you to get them 👌
If you have tons, then going to MA5 and beyond would make sense 👍
T15 buildings and training is so expensive comparatively it's better to do k40 rally spot, MA5, and level 40 research academy at a minimum before. It only becomes a question when considering k41, MA6 before t15 in my opinion.
Evony really needs to adjust resource consumption event
100% it’s kinda ridiculous.
I agree! We need another level or 2, and more rewards in them 👌
Separate subject. Where do you collect the gems for the treasure hunt event. I maxed out but don't see them in my inventory.
They are in the treasure hunt boxes in your inventory. Open the boxes to get the gems 💎 👍
@RedEvony the event ended a couple days ago but the treasure items are still in my invemtory. Will those convert to treasure boxes?
Hello Aka,
I have a question about pvp march, in your previous video you said to put 20% T11 50% T12 and 30% T13 but if we have T14 it should be 10% for both T11 and T14.
My question is do we do this to all types because some of big players said for ground they put 35% T14, 35% T13, 25% T12 and 5% T11 and for cavalry march 25% T14, 30% T13, 35% T12 and 10% for T11, for seige it's the same how you said.
Can you explain to me which is better.
Thank you
Hi 👋
The video you are referring to was for simplified presets - A way to make it easier for all levels of players to set up their march presets.
What you are talking about now is about march optimisation. In that case, the amounts of troops can be adjusted for the various troop types, as long as you are confident in the adjustments. 😇
For example, while your Ranged march would benefit from more T12s as shown in the video, an optimised Ground march would benefit from more T14s and T13s. Each march type has its own unique peculiarities.
If you are not sure of what to do, just go with the simplified version 👍
t15 is good choice to go and not doubted, but without decent amount buffs, it's nothing...
many people run k41 k42 without having good tech after k45 update, buffs is everything, and even with lower tiers than enemy send, you are great when the condition is your buffs is much higher than them who just having higher tiers than you but lower research
simply, we've been saw how t1 kill t15, simply
t15 for monster will help with scroll. Hide in svs exept 100k . In our team we push 1 k42 for rally buffs reinforce capacity and bigger hall and the others push t15 is always about the team you have
To be clear ma5 is a rip off for buffs per scroll so I went to k43 and ma8 instead of t15 or doing most of ma5 research and I'm convinced it's the right call considering k44 and ma9 before t15 as well not fully decided.
If you've been able to get the scrolls to do the research, then yeah, that was probably the right call for you 😊👍
I agree need to go MA 5 first then t 15 . But maybe k 42 before t 15 really . Your buffs are more important than anything. Imo
I really like the point of unlocking ma 6 and let it be taken on first … please add monsters n events in particular from which we can have tactic scrolls
Ymir and pan levels 4+ and aglaopes
@ thank you ☺️
i have completed MA5 and unlock all T15 before upgrading to K41 , best thing i suggest to anyone who wants to go over K40
@@giorgiorianna8304 may I ask where you rank in power in your alliance? Were you one of the first to reach k40 on your server? What is your keep level now? It would help players understand why it was the right choice for you
@ i am a 16B power K41 now, i built the T15 as soon i finished the MA5 , before upgrading to K41. and yes my keep was one of the first in my server to get to K40.
T15 really help in defences so when you play chalons or Allstars they do make the difference!
@@giorgiorianna8304 Sounds like you're killing it! At the pace you're growing, unlocking your t15s makes total sense. I don't believe the majority of aka's audience are coining at your level, however. What to upgrade after reaching k40 is situational. It depends on whether your largest opponents are about equal to your size/buffs, or if they are markedly stronger than you. If it's the latter, that player is surrounded by players with bigger buffs and keep levels. the more troop power they put on, the likelier it is they can't defend it and will lose points than they earn. For that latter type of player - which I argue is most of aka's audience - they need to prioritize increasing their buffs, not their troop power, so they are less of a point liability for their team. Growth for that player is much, much slower as well. What maybe took you a handful of months to unlock all your t15s could take another years to unlock all theirs. You did what was best for you in your situation, but I wouldn't recommend it for everyone
Correct me if Im wrong, but MA6 require keep 41?
Correct
Actually, I agree with you - after hearing from others.
Thank you ☺️☺️🙏🙏
What do you mean by “You have not properly built your keep”?
Simply means the buffs and the way the troops are structured in the keep are not yet able to sustain large amounts of T15s
Some have said MA6 before t15. That’s what i disagree with. I’m of the gospel of T15’s before MA6. I definitely went with MA before t15’s though. Need those buffs and it’s cheaper to build.
Q my man 😁👊
@ yes sir! Finally started my channel. Had to like and subscribe to your channel bro. 😎 🍻
I am far from t15s or MI 5. See you on the next video
I'm sure you'll get there soon enough 😇💪
Thanks for the share Aka007
As always bro 😊👍
I would say MA6>MA7>MA5+ T15s
That's a fair assessment
I have 2 keeps : 1 with T15s & 1 with MA5. MA5 is way better! The T15s without research & buffs are useless. My keep with the T15s has turned into a boss farmer since it is just not that helpful in battles - until it gets better buffs.
How many T15s do you have?
I'm keep 38 with no t14 except Horse for the bosses, but I tell you what I built lots of t11 and t12 and I'm not doing too bad either, I like when the ranged troops splat attacking my keep😂😂😂
No point to build too many cav, I would focus on keep & building, having too many t14 cav is useless if you don't layer the other type of troop, that's the reason I'm not build too many t14 but aim for next keep level, I'm also at k38 but already ready to go k39, t11 & 12 won't help much when your top tier cav is going down fast
@stevenmah2070 oh they will be built I'm just too lazy at the moment 😂😂😂
@@richarddavid9962 bro I just take 1 month+ from k37 to k38, now at around 2 month after k38 I'm otw to k39, this week consume RSS is coming so definitely going for that
Both is hard to complete. For free player or grind. Need alt and bot , and coin . To get to next level.
I recently became K36, how many T14s should I have for SVS as far as power exchange?
Don't build too many t14, the better way for you is build a 300m or 500m t1 cav for your defense on svs, the more higher tier troop the most you will lost the power exchange so focus on t1 & stack your defense buff
Is this game worth playing? Thinking about playing
That's a very subjective question 😅😅
I would say yes, but be very VERY cautious about spending in the game. The money 💰 can disappear very quickly 😅😅
ma5 just feels much affordable compared to t15s 🤣😂
I fully understand that 😄
And if you can sort out the tactic scrolls issue, then yeah, it would be worth it 👍
Otherwise, T15s would be better imo 😇
Excelente video, thx!! Y si, el costo de ambos es una locura, pero en mi caso, se me terminan los pergaminos con MA5, toda la demás investigación, está a full, así que tú elegí los cavs t15 para poder acumular más pergaminos!!
i did ma5 first and am almost done. i am also almost ready to build the lvl40 workshop. after that? lvl41 sounds pretty good to me. screw the t15 archers. no one can hit me and the research is better than pussy stick throwers
🤣🤣🤣
Both are important.
True 😇