Which one makes most sense?! 🤣 How do you count with fingers? 🤌 If you’re wondering why the base language is Korean, it’s because we’re classmates taking Korean class with Korean being our common language, and we’re still beginners 😅🇰🇷 When adding the subtitles, I also just realized how mixed up our languages are when we talk lol welcome to my class 😂
The second way is from one of the Chinese systems of mental arithmetic. It enables you to count until 99. The hundreds and thousands will be ‘kept’ in mind. I learned it when I was a kid. After mastering that, I was taught how to use an abacus, and then eventually switching to visualising and counting with an abacus in your mind. That’s the system I followed, but I’m guessing there should be other slightly different variations as well. The first way could’ve possibly started from imitating finger movements that are used to move the beads on an abacus, but don’t take my word for it. I have not researched this. Just guessing, as I do know how to use an abacus to count. Your friends might know the history of the different systems and how they came to be. 🙂
Second one in chinese. I’ve been taught about Indonesian way and that 2nd chinese way and the latter is easier due to you can count until 99 with 2 hands
Here at home, it kinda varies. I usually count starting from my pinky but I've also started from my index. I've seen my dad and brother start from the thumb. 🇵🇭 Cebuano/Bisaya is my mothertongue and we count like this: 1 - usa 2 - duha 3 - tulo 4 - upat 5 - lima 6 - unom 7 - pito 8 - walo 9 - siyam 10 - napulo
The second way is from one of the Chinese systems of mental arithmetic. It enables you to count until 99. The hundreds and thousands will be ‘kept’ in mind. I learned it when I was a kid. After mastering that, I was taught how to use an abacus, and then eventually switching to visualising and counting with an abacus in your mind. That’s the system I followed, but I’m guessing there should be other slightly different variations as well. The first way could’ve possibly started from imitating finger movements that are used to move the beads on an abacus, but don’t take my word for it. I have not researched this. Just guessing, as I do know how to use an abacus to count.
The number "7" in indonesian is "tujuh", and it's related to the word "telunjuk" (pointer finger), and "tunjuk" (to point), and also tuju (goal) it's because of the way we're counting with our fingers. It's not a lie, it's really its etymology. You'll know it if you learn language comparasion of Austronesian languages.
"Lima" (5) originally means palm with all fingers extended. Somehow, in the Malayo branch, it just refers to the five numbers. Austronesian language outside the Malayo branch, like in the Philippines and Pacifics, still retains the double meaning of "lima" as a numeric and physical act.
The second way is from one of the Chinese systems of mental arithmetic. As the guy above said, it enables you to count until 99. The hundreds and thousands will be ‘kept’ in mind. Next step they will teach you to use an abacus, and then switch to visualising and counting with an abacus in your mind. That’s the system I was taught, but I’m guessing there should be other slightly different variations as well. The first way could’ve possibly started from imitating finger movements that are used to move the beads on an abacus, but don’t take my word for it. I have not researched this. Just guessing, as I do know how to use an abacus to count.
K in knife and knight etc: "Haahh, I feel like the most useless letter in the universe. They don't even bother pronouncing me." De in Delapan: "I know that feel, bro...." 😂
I believe most Australians start with the index finger when counting, all my family do, but I studied in Germany and Germans start from the thumb so my counting style is just pure anarchy.
Ohh so close to Indonesian. So hear me out In the Philippines it goes: isa, dalawa, tatlo, apat, lima, anim, pito, walo, siyam, sampo But we have tribes here which the national language is called Tagalog. In our tribe (I'm mixed tribe) Tausug goes like this: isa duwa tuu upat lima unum pitu walu siyam hampu Sinama bangingi goes like this: isa duwa tullu umpat lima onnom pitu walu siyam watong And there are sooooo many tribes here tehee~
In Bisaya (Common spoken language in Mindanao Region of the Philippines) 1 Isa, 2 Duha, 3 Tulo, 4 Upat, 5 Lima, 6 Unom, 7 Pito, 8 Walo, 9 Nuybe/Nuwebe, 10 Napulo/Pulo/Diyes
As Balinese your counting ways sounds like half balinese half javanese Balinese counting Sa,duwee,telu,patpat,lime,enem,pitu,kutus(balinese)/wolu(japanese),siya and dasa
As bataknese [toba] (Indonesia), we almost have the same thing in pronouncing numbers. 1: sada 2: dua 3: tolu 4: opat 5: lima 6: onom 7: pitu 8: walu 9: sia 10: sampulu
I'm an american, speak pretty exclusively english, but (the following is a very long list n explanations for my language learning line-up over the years): -My dad is mexican n I took spanish for a year (was mostly absent, purposefully spoke english un response to my dad's mexican when he tried to teach me when I was growing up so I discouraged him n he stopped. Taking spanish class only served to confuse me n was otherwise useless. I also have a peruvian aunt so peruvian family that comes up to visit for holidays. So more spanish, but a different kind. At this point, I don't even try cuz its just a recipe for misunderstandings n problems) -I took Latin for a year (the most dedicated I ever learned a language n it was 8th grade for a dead language 🤦♂️. I also used duolingo for it a couple years later n I actually remember it pretty well. I tested my knowledge of it last yr by taking the duolingo latin placement test n got really far in the course with that. Didn't continue cuz it was purely for the placement. -I took Chinese for 3 months (mental and physical health struggles led to me mistakenly associating the random headaches I was getting with the language characters. I fully believed it was the character shapes causing the issues. Idk what the actual cause was but it couldn't've been the characters, thats just not how that works. They were pretty bad headaches tho. So I was switched to another language. I still generally avoid looking at chinese cuz of that correlation I made. Literally can't be the characters causing the issue tho. Unless it was a specific character that isn't in Japanese Kanji cuz I learned Japanese without any headaches n Kanji r too similar to chinese characters to not cause headaches while chinese caused headaches. Anyway, speaking of Japanese) -I took Japanese for the rest of the school year after transfering out of Chinese (something I should mention, I repeated 9th grade 3 times then got kicked out of school for my absenses. Severe mental health struggles with an undiagnosed underlying cause n chronic pain with an undiagnosed cause r the reasons for it. Cuz of that, I was able to take a few languages rather than a single 1. Plus the 2nd n 3nd rounds of 9th grade were online so there were more language options. That's y spanish got a full yr n y Chinese and Japanese were options. Anyway, I took it cuz I loved anime at the time n wanted to learn more about Japan. I continued learning Japanese online for awhile afterward, on and off. Mostly using duolingo ofc.) -Simultaniously with the Japanese, I took German. (Found it interesting that it was being offered at all. N found the basics to be easy to learn since English is a Germanic language. Anything but French was really my mentality when I was picking the language to study tho. I continued learning German on and off for years afterward n its the language I remember second best after latin. I am not taking Spanish into account for these comparisons cuz technically i have some amount of knowledge of 3 types of spanish that could be classified as their own languages from their variations so I'm just not gonna try 😅) -I added Romanian, Dutch, and Russian to the list (went on a sorta language learning spree when an interest in linguistics kicked in. So a lot of languages I signed up to study using duolingo. I don't even remember all of the languages I started learning at that point so I'm only listing the ones I remember enough of to complete the first duolingo lessons for it n am putting them in this line specifically instead of giving them their own) -There was a moment when I intrigued by the language considered most difficult to learn by a lot of people, Vietnamese. I got Babbel for that one (ofc it was shortlived. I only wanted to learn cuz of the challenge n cuz I had a job as a bussboy at a asian restaurant n wanted to try to understand some of the cooks. It really went nowhere n I wasn't working there anymore not long after so continuing had no practical use anymore either) -at some point, I started studying religious stuff for different cultures so I decided to learn some Hebrew (i literally barely remember any of it n was about to type the last section of this comment when I remember this was one that I did attempt to learn. I don't think I used any language learning apps for it tho. Made it twice as hard on myself as I normally did) -Indonesian (after a long long while of ignoring duolingo, I decided to pick it up again cuz I was hearing a lot of stuff about indonesian being the easiest langauge to learn cuz of the grammatical simplicity n I was shocked by it for sure. That being said, My motivation to learn it quickly died n I was left with a duolingo streak I didn't wanna give up. So I started using the first lesson of the first unit as a daily lesson to keep up my streak. I still have my streak, did my lesson at 9. Over 400 days.) -Greek (last year, I got seriously interested in world geography n that reignited my linguistic love, pushing me toward languages with different alphabets. I made a lineup of the extremely different character alphabets duolingo offers, created a new duo account n started Greek. I wanted to try armenian, but duo still doesn't offer armenian sadly. N since I tried Russian before, n Russia isn't the best place rn, I instead added Ukrainian. Figured it could be helpful n might be fun. I also added Hindi cuz that's a very extremely different writing system so I wanted to give it a shot. Well, Hindi immediately proved to be horrifyingly difficult cuz of the keyboard differences. I'm sure I could figure it out with time, but It didn't fit the learning experience I wanted at that point so I ditched it.) -Ukrainian (mentioned it in the previous point but yeah, started it for Cyrillic instead cuz of time context n previously already attemptin russian. Just a tip for anyone who's reading this and doesn't know, as obvious as it may be, cyrillic isn't the same alphabet between languages that use it. Russian doesn't use all the same characters nor all the same character sounds as ukrainian does. Ukrainian has a full letter that Russian doesn't n that most cyrillic keyboards apparently don't. There's a key combo for it with a cyrillic keyboard on. Just like how different Latin alphabet languages use additional latin alphabet letters or use some differently. German has the ß, spanish has the tilde, a lot of european latin languages have accent marks. So yeah, just keep that in mind if u wanna learn alphabets n wanna use a language for that. That is, unless its the only language that uses that alphabet system like Greek, Armenian, Hebrew, Japanese, Korean, etc. I am also continuing my Ukrainian streak. Its a separate streak for duolingo cuz its on a separate account. Halfway to a year in for it. I stopped Greek in favor of focusing on Ukrainian before putting Ukrainian in the same passive memorization category as indonesian was already in. But hey, at least those streaks r still going n I'm still logging in everyday so when I eventually have the motivation to continue learning either of them, I can hot right back in) After all of that, i never attempted Korean cuz my sis had already spent a lot of time on that n is into k-pop n just left that as her thing. Its not a good reason to not learn it, it is on my list to learn eventually, but idk when eventually's gonna actually be. I like languages, I like learning alphabets, I suck at remembering, n my ability to keep motivation for any amount of time is somewhere between 0.1 and 0. So despite years and years of language learning on n off for different languages, i'm still a single language guy. I can just say Hi in a lot of them. Not even in all of them tho. For some reason, Duolingo generally doesn't teach "hi how are you" in the first unit. Apparently "I drink water and you drink milk" is more important 🙄. This comment his, at least momentarily, returned my fascination with alphabets. We'll see how long this one lasts since its literally after midnight n I might just end up sleeping it off 😢.
That's because your ancestors and my ancestors (Austronesian-speaking people from Formosa island) were interacting at some point in the Southeast Asia islands thousands of years ago before diverting to the southwest and the east (Pacific islands). We are not genetically similar, but the cultural interaction in the past between our ancestors brought us together in the form of language, tattoo art, agriculture, and seafaring culture. Greetings from Indonesia 😊🇮🇩
I think I count fourth person’s way with one hand? I honestly couldn’t remember where I’d learned that until I realised I’d had my first math lessons in a HK style tutoring centre in Canada lmao Edit: also the reason I prefer this way is probably bc rather than counting the 10 on the same hand, I move it over into a 1 on my left hand and count the 10s and then I can go all the way up to 99 with both hands.
I work in math education, so it’s quite common to use fingers to demonstrate concepts, especially for people with dyscalculia. I’d never considered how difficult it would be in other languages, even though I have students in immersion schools. That’s really interesting, especially since Mathnasium works in multiple other countries too.
The second style of counting in Chinese is based of mental arithmetic, the basics will enable the person to show numbers up to 99 with just their hands.
@@TaikiFouLung The second hand is the tens row and fifties; so for e.g. 63, you show three fingers with your original hand and your thumb and index on the other.
The 2nd Chinese method is actually the abacus counting method. I learnt that method when i picked up abacus when i was young. The universal method (1st method) was taught in schools in SG.
The first Chinese way is the northern way. The southern way six can be the same with the first Chinese girl but also can use how the first chinese girl used for nine to indicate 6, but this way usually not for count but to show others. Seven is how the northern way used for eight (thumb and index finger), as it imitates 7(this one cause the most problem for Chinese people). Then eight just based on seven and add the middle finger, and nine is add the ring finger. So the southern Chinese way is: 1 index 2 index + middle 3 index + middle + ring 4 index + middle + ring + pinky 5 all five fingers 6 thumb + pinky/ curled index 7 thumb + index 8 thumb + index + middle 9 thumb + index + middle + ring 0/10 fist (other hand shows tenth digit)
Finally i noticed the difference between 2 and 7 in the Chinese mode. But what is more surprising, she can lift her ring finger straight without her pinky finger 😭 me who's just starting to learn piano is struggling to train this finger.
I only realized that one song by a Japanese band that I liked once featured counting in Chinese! Always thought what that was lol (The song is GRANRODEO - move on! イバラミチ)
wait, the chinese characters for the numbers are the same as the kanji for them in japanese? thats pretty neat before someone who doesnt speak the language tries to correct me, there are literally three alphabets in japanese; hiragana [the main one and the one used in the video], katakana [used for loanwords], and kanji [which represent whole words or even phrases.] the characters in kanji for numbers 1-10 are the same as the chinese characters used in the video
Kanji actually means Chinese character. Some characters may look slightly different, but Chinese usually can guess the word as the differences are not that big . As a Chinese who just started learning Japanese, I used to guess the meanings by reading Kanji as that's the only character I can read. For a lot of Japanese, Kanji still difficult for them, but for me, when I see questions asking about Kanji, it's like give away questions, I don't even need to think
My language does 1 pointer 2 pointer middle 3 pointer middle thumb 4 pointer middle ring pinky 5 pointer middle ring pinky thumb 6 pointer middle ring, thumb touches pinky 7 pointer middle pinky, thumb touches ring 8 pointer ring pinky, thumb touches middle 9 middle ring pinky, thumb touches pointer 10 thumb, shake twice Comment if you know the language
Using one hand, if you give thumb, it means six. Thumb+index means seven. The ambiguity comes when you want to tell people either 5 or 10 using only 1 hand.
I'm indonesian but also taught to count like the 2nd chinese girl aside from the usual 1-10 count. now i only use that one bcs i can count up to 99 with that 😂
Indonesian and russian are more into the amount whereas the east Asians are more into the character, the shape. I'll definitely give the wrong amount to the east Asians if they sign numbers like that😂😂😂
Lol am learning japanese and was told that they rarely ever use shi, it took me off gaured when she used shi instead of yon. The only time ive ever heard shi used was for april, being shi gatsu.
the second Chinese one makes sense to me because one of my substitute teacher said we could count from 1-99 with our then fingers and he taught us this method because we didn't believe him.
I thought they only do that in Super Sentai👀🏃🏻♂️. Like in ToQger and when Kaito counted Zox as their sixth Sentai in Zenkaiger even tho Zox himself don't want to be in their team
(I'm Indonesian) I remember very well that when i was working in food factory in taiwan when someone ask me "how much left?" I put 3 sign (i dont know if it international or just in taiwan but my 3 hand sign language is ok to them) and they give me what the hell look to me and give me some scolding since they thought i give them ok sign as i didn't have nothing else in my part 😅🤣🤣
i count by folding my fingers starting with the pinkie or sometimes starting with a thumb but also can start with the index finger but it’s almost always folding, not unfolding
Which one makes most sense?! 🤣 How do you count with fingers? 🤌
If you’re wondering why the base language is Korean, it’s because we’re classmates taking Korean class with Korean being our common language, and we’re still beginners 😅🇰🇷
When adding the subtitles, I also just realized how mixed up our languages are when we talk lol welcome to my class 😂
Japan, Indonesia, and Russia. Sorry, China is just so confusing 😭😭😭
When I count with my fingers, I use the base 6 system which allows me to count up to 35 with two hands.
The second way is from one of the Chinese systems of mental arithmetic. It enables you to count until 99. The hundreds and thousands will be ‘kept’ in mind. I learned it when I was a kid. After mastering that, I was taught how to use an abacus, and then eventually switching to visualising and counting with an abacus in your mind. That’s the system I followed, but I’m guessing there should be other slightly different variations as well.
The first way could’ve possibly started from imitating finger movements that are used to move the beads on an abacus, but don’t take my word for it. I have not researched this. Just guessing, as I do know how to use an abacus to count. Your friends might know the history of the different systems and how they came to be. 🙂
Second one in chinese. I’ve been taught about Indonesian way and that 2nd chinese way and the latter is easier due to you can count until 99 with 2 hands
Here at home, it kinda varies. I usually count starting from my pinky but I've also started from my index. I've seen my dad and brother start from the thumb.
🇵🇭 Cebuano/Bisaya is my mothertongue and we count like this:
1 - usa
2 - duha
3 - tulo
4 - upat
5 - lima
6 - unom
7 - pito
8 - walo
9 - siyam
10 - napulo
Would love to know the origins of how the Chinese style of hand counting happened. So different!
The second way is from one of the Chinese systems of mental arithmetic. It enables you to count until 99. The hundreds and thousands will be ‘kept’ in mind. I learned it when I was a kid. After mastering that, I was taught how to use an abacus, and then eventually switching to visualising and counting with an abacus in your mind. That’s the system I followed, but I’m guessing there should be other slightly different variations as well.
The first way could’ve possibly started from imitating finger movements that are used to move the beads on an abacus, but don’t take my word for it. I have not researched this. Just guessing, as I do know how to use an abacus to count.
@@Addy-ology really cool! Thanks for the info
For the first way of counting, 七 ，八，九 和十(seven, eight, nine and ten), the hands imitate how the Chinese characters look
@@Addy-ology is it just the standard learning there? or is it just some some class learning that?
what more surprising is that she can lift her ring finger straight without the pinky finger following 😂
"Ego makes sense "😂😂 half Korean half eng
No, she said "이거" (i-geo)
@@yenjieyanaThat's what she said. Half korean and half English
They have conversations while keep changing language 😮 dayum
It's very interesting, that most count in almost the same way. But far cooler in my eyes is, that they all communicate in Korean.
For real i was so surprised about it
The girls: 🇨🇳🇯🇵🇷🇺🇮🇩
The Language they speak: 🇰🇷
The number "7" in indonesian is "tujuh", and it's related to the word "telunjuk" (pointer finger), and "tunjuk" (to point), and also tuju (goal) it's because of the way we're counting with our fingers. It's not a lie, it's really its etymology. You'll know it if you learn language comparasion of Austronesian languages.
"Lima" (5) originally means palm with all fingers extended. Somehow, in the Malayo branch, it just refers to the five numbers.
Austronesian language outside the Malayo branch, like in the Philippines and Pacifics, still retains the double meaning of "lima" as a numeric and physical act.
I like the second way of Chinese counting ! Doesn't seem to hard to learn and you can get a high number on just 2 hands
You can reach 99 with that system
@@himarshapaul2465 that's pretty good!
There are also ways to get even higher but this one is simple and also clear when viewed from a distance.
The second way is from one of the Chinese systems of mental arithmetic. As the guy above said, it enables you to count until 99. The hundreds and thousands will be ‘kept’ in mind. Next step they will teach you to use an abacus, and then switch to visualising and counting with an abacus in your mind. That’s the system I was taught, but I’m guessing there should be other slightly different variations as well.
The first way could’ve possibly started from imitating finger movements that are used to move the beads on an abacus, but don’t take my word for it. I have not researched this. Just guessing, as I do know how to use an abacus to count.
Right hand is unit and left is tens... Thumb is 5.. Easy..
My grandma used to teach me the first chinese method. I miss her alot.
아니 어떻게 공용어를 한국어로 다들 쓰시는거예요ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 지나가던 한국인 당황했지만 뿌듯해하며 갑니다ㅋㅋㅋ
@lonelypotatojinneverfound378 ah!! this is why 3 people use korean language!!! Thank you ;)
K in knife and knight etc: "Haahh, I feel like the most useless letter in the universe. They don't even bother pronouncing me."
De in Delapan: "I know that feel, bro...."
😂
X and S in "faux pas" and other French words: First time?
I believe most Australians start with the index finger when counting, all my family do, but I studied in Germany and Germans start from the thumb so my counting style is just pure anarchy.
Im Korean. I count my fingers like a Russian....?
I LOVE RUSSIA
(FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON)
I feel the same (as a Korean btw) Russia's got this romantic masculinity vibe
@@라랄라-t9s yea!
@@라랄라-t9s i once wrote a whole essay abt russia for no absolute reason and I loved it lmao
Putin in north korea warning south korea ''don't help ukraine if you don't want to be the next" 😂
I like how that are speaking korean but no one counts in korean
Ohh so close to Indonesian. So hear me out
In the Philippines it goes: isa, dalawa, tatlo, apat, lima, anim, pito, walo, siyam, sampo
But we have tribes here which the national language is called Tagalog.
In our tribe (I'm mixed tribe)
Tausug goes like this:
isa duwa tuu upat lima unum pitu walu siyam hampu
Sinama bangingi goes like this:
isa duwa tullu umpat lima onnom pitu walu siyam watong
And there are sooooo many tribes here tehee~
In Bisaya (Common spoken language in Mindanao Region of the Philippines)
1 Isa, 2 Duha, 3 Tulo, 4 Upat, 5 Lima, 6 Unom, 7 Pito, 8 Walo, 9 Nuybe/Nuwebe, 10 Napulo/Pulo/Diyes
As Balinese your counting ways sounds like half balinese half javanese
Balinese counting
Sa,duwee,telu,patpat,lime,enem,pitu,kutus(balinese)/wolu(japanese),siya and dasa
@@PrinceDuck-tm2ep ohhh, what country are you from?
@@shanem40She/he's from Indonesia. The Balinese people are an Austronesian ethnic group originating from the island of Bali, Indonesia.
As bataknese [toba] (Indonesia), we almost have the same thing in pronouncing numbers.
1: sada
2: dua
3: tolu
4: opat
5: lima
6: onom
7: pitu
8: walu
9: sia
10: sampulu
I'm an american, speak pretty exclusively english, but (the following is a very long list n explanations for my language learning line-up over the years):
-My dad is mexican n I took spanish for a year (was mostly absent, purposefully spoke english un response to my dad's mexican when he tried to teach me when I was growing up so I discouraged him n he stopped. Taking spanish class only served to confuse me n was otherwise useless. I also have a peruvian aunt so peruvian family that comes up to visit for holidays. So more spanish, but a different kind. At this point, I don't even try cuz its just a recipe for misunderstandings n problems)
-I took Latin for a year (the most dedicated I ever learned a language n it was 8th grade for a dead language 🤦♂️. I also used duolingo for it a couple years later n I actually remember it pretty well. I tested my knowledge of it last yr by taking the duolingo latin placement test n got really far in the course with that. Didn't continue cuz it was purely for the placement.
-I took Chinese for 3 months (mental and physical health struggles led to me mistakenly associating the random headaches I was getting with the language characters. I fully believed it was the character shapes causing the issues. Idk what the actual cause was but it couldn't've been the characters, thats just not how that works. They were pretty bad headaches tho. So I was switched to another language. I still generally avoid looking at chinese cuz of that correlation I made. Literally can't be the characters causing the issue tho. Unless it was a specific character that isn't in Japanese Kanji cuz I learned Japanese without any headaches n Kanji r too similar to chinese characters to not cause headaches while chinese caused headaches. Anyway, speaking of Japanese)
-I took Japanese for the rest of the school year after transfering out of Chinese (something I should mention, I repeated 9th grade 3 times then got kicked out of school for my absenses. Severe mental health struggles with an undiagnosed underlying cause n chronic pain with an undiagnosed cause r the reasons for it. Cuz of that, I was able to take a few languages rather than a single 1. Plus the 2nd n 3nd rounds of 9th grade were online so there were more language options. That's y spanish got a full yr n y Chinese and Japanese were options. Anyway, I took it cuz I loved anime at the time n wanted to learn more about Japan. I continued learning Japanese online for awhile afterward, on and off. Mostly using duolingo ofc.)
-Simultaniously with the Japanese, I took German. (Found it interesting that it was being offered at all. N found the basics to be easy to learn since English is a Germanic language. Anything but French was really my mentality when I was picking the language to study tho. I continued learning German on and off for years afterward n its the language I remember second best after latin. I am not taking Spanish into account for these comparisons cuz technically i have some amount of knowledge of 3 types of spanish that could be classified as their own languages from their variations so I'm just not gonna try 😅)
-I added Romanian, Dutch, and Russian to the list (went on a sorta language learning spree when an interest in linguistics kicked in. So a lot of languages I signed up to study using duolingo. I don't even remember all of the languages I started learning at that point so I'm only listing the ones I remember enough of to complete the first duolingo lessons for it n am putting them in this line specifically instead of giving them their own)
-There was a moment when I intrigued by the language considered most difficult to learn by a lot of people, Vietnamese. I got Babbel for that one (ofc it was shortlived. I only wanted to learn cuz of the challenge n cuz I had a job as a bussboy at a asian restaurant n wanted to try to understand some of the cooks. It really went nowhere n I wasn't working there anymore not long after so continuing had no practical use anymore either)
-at some point, I started studying religious stuff for different cultures so I decided to learn some Hebrew (i literally barely remember any of it n was about to type the last section of this comment when I remember this was one that I did attempt to learn. I don't think I used any language learning apps for it tho. Made it twice as hard on myself as I normally did)
-Indonesian (after a long long while of ignoring duolingo, I decided to pick it up again cuz I was hearing a lot of stuff about indonesian being the easiest langauge to learn cuz of the grammatical simplicity n I was shocked by it for sure. That being said, My motivation to learn it quickly died n I was left with a duolingo streak I didn't wanna give up. So I started using the first lesson of the first unit as a daily lesson to keep up my streak. I still have my streak, did my lesson at 9. Over 400 days.)
-Greek (last year, I got seriously interested in world geography n that reignited my linguistic love, pushing me toward languages with different alphabets. I made a lineup of the extremely different character alphabets duolingo offers, created a new duo account n started Greek. I wanted to try armenian, but duo still doesn't offer armenian sadly. N since I tried Russian before, n Russia isn't the best place rn, I instead added Ukrainian. Figured it could be helpful n might be fun. I also added Hindi cuz that's a very extremely different writing system so I wanted to give it a shot. Well, Hindi immediately proved to be horrifyingly difficult cuz of the keyboard differences. I'm sure I could figure it out with time, but It didn't fit the learning experience I wanted at that point so I ditched it.)
-Ukrainian (mentioned it in the previous point but yeah, started it for Cyrillic instead cuz of time context n previously already attemptin russian. Just a tip for anyone who's reading this and doesn't know, as obvious as it may be, cyrillic isn't the same alphabet between languages that use it. Russian doesn't use all the same characters nor all the same character sounds as ukrainian does. Ukrainian has a full letter that Russian doesn't n that most cyrillic keyboards apparently don't. There's a key combo for it with a cyrillic keyboard on. Just like how different Latin alphabet languages use additional latin alphabet letters or use some differently. German has the ß, spanish has the tilde, a lot of european latin languages have accent marks. So yeah, just keep that in mind if u wanna learn alphabets n wanna use a language for that. That is, unless its the only language that uses that alphabet system like Greek, Armenian, Hebrew, Japanese, Korean, etc. I am also continuing my Ukrainian streak. Its a separate streak for duolingo cuz its on a separate account. Halfway to a year in for it. I stopped Greek in favor of focusing on Ukrainian before putting Ukrainian in the same passive memorization category as indonesian was already in. But hey, at least those streaks r still going n I'm still logging in everyday so when I eventually have the motivation to continue learning either of them, I can hot right back in)
After all of that, i never attempted Korean cuz my sis had already spent a lot of time on that n is into k-pop n just left that as her thing. Its not a good reason to not learn it, it is on my list to learn eventually, but idk when eventually's gonna actually be. I like languages, I like learning alphabets, I suck at remembering, n my ability to keep motivation for any amount of time is somewhere between 0.1 and 0. So despite years and years of language learning on n off for different languages, i'm still a single language guy. I can just say Hi in a lot of them. Not even in all of them tho. For some reason, Duolingo generally doesn't teach "hi how are you" in the first unit. Apparently "I drink water and you drink milk" is more important 🙄. This comment his, at least momentarily, returned my fascination with alphabets. We'll see how long this one lasts since its literally after midnight n I might just end up sleeping it off 😢.
I.. I don't know what to comment now:)
Are your fingers ok? 😭
This is the longest comment I've ever seen 😹
I ain't reading allat
As a Samoan I'm a bit surprised how similar Indonesian numbers are with ours.
austronesian language family
That's because your ancestors and my ancestors (Austronesian-speaking people from Formosa island) were interacting at some point in the Southeast Asia islands thousands of years ago before diverting to the southwest and the east (Pacific islands).
We are not genetically similar, but the cultural interaction in the past between our ancestors brought us together in the form of language, tattoo art, agriculture, and seafaring culture.
Greetings from Indonesia 😊🇮🇩
As an albanian l confirm that we count like indonesians❤
I think I count fourth person’s way with one hand? I honestly couldn’t remember where I’d learned that until I realised I’d had my first math lessons in a HK style tutoring centre in Canada lmao
Edit: also the reason I prefer this way is probably bc rather than counting the 10 on the same hand, I move it over into a 1 on my left hand and count the 10s and then I can go all the way up to 99 with both hands.
I’m so glad the algorithm sent me your videos-it’s so cool to hear all these different languages!
What the hell!? The Chinese methods are so cute!!!
Oh, and Korean gestures she showed 2nd make sense for me
Talking about numbers, the Russian girl is a 10/10 😁
I work in math education, so it’s quite common to use fingers to demonstrate concepts, especially for people with dyscalculia. I’d never considered how difficult it would be in other languages, even though I have students in immersion schools. That’s really interesting, especially since Mathnasium works in multiple other countries too.
The Indonesia numbers is kinda similar to most of the pacific islands way of saying it
Akar bahasa dari Taiwan, dan Indonesia, Filipina, Brunei, Singapura, dan Malaysia...
Satu-satunya hal yang ngebuat gw tertarik sama mandarin cuman penyebutan angkanya
I'm Chinese and I only know the first method 😂
The second method is like using abacus 🧮
The first way of counting in Chinese looked like sign language imo
I love how Korean is the new lingua franka.
I only know the first Chinese way but never seen the second. I learned how to count with my hands that way in my Chinese school.
Kmu orang semarang apa Jakarta?
Third btw love ur videos. I learned some languages. Tysm
Fun fact: English, Spanish, Russian, Greek, Persian and Hindi are related
Ohhh ok
The second style of counting in Chinese is based of mental arithmetic, the basics will enable the person to show numbers up to 99 with just their hands.
So the thumb shows "five" while the other fingers show "one". So far understood, but why show the finger for 10? wouldn't that be 11?
@@TaikiFouLung The second hand is the tens row and fifties; so for e.g. 63, you show three fingers with your original hand and your thumb and index on the other.
It feels nice that this amount of Korean is understandable to me 😂
Dulu di sekolahku pernah diajarin pakenya kaya yang china kedua 😌
The 2nd Chinese method is actually the abacus counting method. I learnt that method when i picked up abacus when i was young. The universal method (1st method) was taught in schools in SG.
Wait a min. How's your korean already sounds good?? Perasaan baru belajar??
The first Chinese way is the northern way. The southern way six can be the same with the first Chinese girl but also can use how the first chinese girl used for nine to indicate 6, but this way usually not for count but to show others. Seven is how the northern way used for eight (thumb and index finger), as it imitates 7(this one cause the most problem for Chinese people). Then eight just based on seven and add the middle finger, and nine is add the ring finger.
So the southern Chinese way is:
1 index
2 index + middle
3 index + middle + ring
4 index + middle + ring + pinky
5 all five fingers
6 thumb + pinky/ curled index
7 thumb + index
8 thumb + index + middle
9 thumb + index + middle + ring
0/10 fist (other hand shows tenth digit)
This is so cool!😂
They were communicated to each other in korean, how cute!
I got confused after I heard Korean xD I can count in Russian, English, Korean (korean and chinese), Chinese.
Aku hafal 1-10 bahasa indonesia, inggris, dan mandarin🗿
I honestly probably prefer the Chinese, keeping it on one hand is easiest 😅
The first way of Chinese counting with hands is similar to Turkish Sign Language
Finally i noticed the difference between 2 and 7 in the Chinese mode. But what is more surprising, she can lift her ring finger straight without her pinky finger 😭
me who's just starting to learn piano is struggling to train this finger.
indonesia is almost the same with our dialect in Bicol..
saro
duwa
tulo
upat
lima
anom
pito
walo
siyam
sampulo
and I'm a Filipino 😅
I only realized that one song by a Japanese band that I liked once featured counting in Chinese!
Always thought what that was lol
(The song is GRANRODEO - move on! イバラミチ)
wait, the chinese characters for the numbers are the same as the kanji for them in japanese? thats pretty neat
before someone who doesnt speak the language tries to correct me, there are literally three alphabets in japanese; hiragana [the main one and the one used in the video], katakana [used for loanwords], and kanji [which represent whole words or even phrases.] the characters in kanji for numbers 1-10 are the same as the chinese characters used in the video
Kanji actually means Chinese character. Some characters may look slightly different, but Chinese usually can guess the word as the differences are not that big . As a Chinese who just started learning Japanese, I used to guess the meanings by reading Kanji as that's the only character I can read. For a lot of Japanese, Kanji still difficult for them, but for me, when I see questions asking about Kanji, it's like give away questions, I don't even need to think
@@GillianKG2 that's actually really cool! i had no idea
Man all these years of speaking Japanese and I only use Nana to say 7 I never used the other way
"ohh.."
"makes no sense" 😂
The first chinese method is so convenient❤ Can do it in one hand
AHHHHH RUSSIA AHHHHH I LOVE RUSSIA AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
“ igeo makes sense “ 😂
My language does
1 pointer
2 pointer middle
3 pointer middle thumb
4 pointer middle ring pinky
5 pointer middle ring pinky thumb
6 pointer middle ring, thumb touches pinky
7 pointer middle pinky, thumb touches ring
8 pointer ring pinky, thumb touches middle
9 middle ring pinky, thumb touches pointer
10 thumb, shake twice
Comment if you know the language
I use the second Chinese method too!! I learnt it in abacus classes as a kid and now I can't count any other way
The first Chinese girl was correct about the Chinese way of counting, the second one did not learn the proper way.
Woah , im indonesian , when i was a child i studied "jaritmatika" and the sign number with finger same as chineese version 2 in that video , woaaah
im indonesian im pretty sure you start with thumb first 😅
depend on the person preference, some prefer with thumb first some prefer with index finger first.
Using one hand, if you give thumb, it means six. Thumb+index means seven. The ambiguity comes when you want to tell people either 5 or 10 using only 1 hand.
No, i start with little finger😂
Chinese way looks like sign language
That second method is how you count with a physical abacus...
i'm indo but my mom teached me how to count the different chinese way lmaoo
My brain fried from hearing too many language switches
3 on Indonesian goes hard ngl
그들이 모두 이야기하는 방식이 정말 마음에 들어 ㅋㅋㅋ
Oh begitu ya...kamu cantik sekali..😊😊
Omg wait i speak most of these languages its crazy when i can understand without subtitles
I'm indonesian but also taught to count like the 2nd chinese girl aside from the usual 1-10 count. now i only use that one bcs i can count up to 99 with that 😂
Im indonesian but i count like the second chinese girl bcs it's easier for math
Indonesian and russian are more into the amount whereas the east Asians are more into the character, the shape. I'll definitely give the wrong amount to the east Asians if they sign numbers like that😂😂😂
i know chinese do that thumb for 5 from math, like the beads one . in indonesia its called sempoa
Chinese finger counting is regional I guess, since the country is so big - I don't count like either of the people in the video
Lol am learning japanese and was told that they rarely ever use shi, it took me off gaured when she used shi instead of yon. The only time ive ever heard shi used was for april, being shi gatsu.
The japanese girl looks like i.n 🫣😭
Actually, in Russia we count in international way more likely
Storm kiva crushed by car
Callback to otoya dance short😅
Indonesian really sounds like ilocano in the ph 😳
the second Chinese one makes sense to me because one of my substitute teacher said we could count from 1-99 with our then fingers and he taught us this method because we didn't believe him.
in Poland we just start with thumb and end at the pinky in second hand
Ichi, ni, san, ji, (gomennasai!)
Bahasa rusia sangat imut
Chinese style same as i learn abacus
”这是九？！" also surprised me lmfao
Russian is js like in Portuguese, even the pronouciation is alike (not much btw but i can notice some things that sound alike)
and then there's also tuwagapatmanamjuhpanlanluh 😭
FACT 😭😭🤣
I thought they only do that in Super Sentai👀🏃🏻♂️. Like in ToQger and when Kaito counted Zox as their sixth Sentai in Zenkaiger even tho Zox himself don't want to be in their team
I speak RUSSAIN idk i justed wanted to say i inderstand the last girl
Now I know why Singaporeans do that number 6 signal...
(I'm Indonesian) I remember very well that when i was working in food factory in taiwan when someone ask me "how much left?" I put 3 sign (i dont know if it international or just in taiwan but my 3 hand sign language is ok to them) and they give me what the hell look to me and give me some scolding since they thought i give them ok sign as i didn't have nothing else in my part 😅🤣🤣
Habis ngitung bahasa jepang tiba tiba "animyeon..." 🤨🤨🤨
Wait what? The counting in Indonesian is like filipino
Lhoo ngobrolnya pake bakor 😮😅
왜 다들 한국어를 쓰시는거죠?ㅋㅋㅋㄱㅋ신기해라
'SHI' in Chinese was a fist with out the thumb up when I was there, I know it sounds like a joke but it is not.
i count by folding my fingers starting with the pinkie or sometimes starting with a thumb
but also can start with the index finger
but it’s almost always folding, not unfolding
Russian sounds so simillar to Balkan languages(ik the reason, you dont need to explain)
I dont even know that the counting style I have learned since kinderganden is Chinese (second style) 😮 I thought it was 'abacuss'(?) style
French has vingt-quatre-dix-sept (20*4+17) for 97 lol
The fact im chinese and doesnt use five like that
the Indonesian way can be done with 1 hand
This makes sense in konglish 😂😂😂
Russian have similarites with Croatian so isaely understand evrything and not hard to prounace at all