During the latter days of the seventh siege, the first Dynastic fleet abandoned all lagrange fortresses in favor of the deep gravitic well. Within range of planetary defenses conquered on the southern continent, the diminished defenders were to outlast the onslaught wrestling control over the inner moons from them. In close pursuit, Demarchist interdiction forces sought to seize the opportunity of one decisive battle. After months of long distance evasions and maneuvers, a definitive fight for close orbital control was, at last, at hand. The ensuing battle famously became the earliest observed by denizens of both capitals first-hand, raining fire and iron down onto a planet yet untouched by the conflict consuming its domain. But while the fight for Jumunhain shook the foundations of this world, it would not end decisively. Forced to hold position to protect their holdings planetside, the Dynastic defenders were put thoroughly on the defensive, unable to mount sorties for weeks to come. Still, their battle-line remained unbroken, effective denying the Demarchist attackers any viable trajectory for orbital bombardment of the southern continents. In the end, the Dynasty was left more consolidated than ever, whilst the encroaching Demarchist campaign gained bridgeheads sufficient to maintain pressure on Jumunhain indefinitely. On both sides, hope lay with their reinforcements and allies to tip this balance, turning the focus of the Princely War back toward the Outer System, where a race for the sun had begun. - from the chronicles of the Princely War
@@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ Yeah I know. I dramatized the thing a bit. But it pains me how litte we get to see space battles in the lore while it should be something more important.
@@neishark1735There used to be a 40k space combat tabletop game with many story and models. And it is out of the production for a long time now. Personally I would like to buy a model of the Lunar class.
@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ Battle Fleet Gothic sold pretty well when they made it. But truth was you could get a playable fleet with 2 £8 boxes of Cruisers and a couple of bilisters of Escorts, so I think there maybe a little truth to them hating it as you didn't have to spend hundreds to get a force
Spectacular, as always. I've done a lot of reading about WH40K since the last time you posted one of these animations, and now I have more of an idea what's going on. The last sequence, where we see hundreds of spacecraft streaming forth in battle, isn't just a fine piece of animation, it's chilling when you think about all the people aboard who, to quote Shakespeare, "go to their graves like beds". Is the Princely War an invention of your own? I don't recognise the names of the factions.
The princely war, the factions and locations are all a homebrew. But in terms of 40k, it's not an uncommon story. Two imperial lords getting into fighting because of some succession crises, tithe disputes, or noble squabbles. It just adds to the tragedy of all those going to their graves. In a galaxy full of grave threads to humanity, they're being wasted in some internal struggle that - in the big picture - doesn#t even matter that much to anyone.
I am absolutely in love with that Corvette/Frigate-class (idk, 40k ship sizes make what'd be a Dreadnought in conventional scifi little more than a PT boat in 40k) that shows up in the "second half" of the video. Its clearly still imperial, but with a shape so unique one could easily class it as a unique ship pattern made for a rogue trader or something or a specific spec-ops crew. ..and I'd like to know which techpriest I need to bribe to get me one of those myself. For totally legit Imperial business. Yes. Definitely nothing heretical going on.
Remeber this is not imperial Navy this just some rouge traders and some planetary defence fleet So ya imagine imperial Navy or admiral spire This is equivalent to some gangs on an town fighting
if only we knew who fights who and what the actual tactics used are. this is shiny ships doing flashy flashy pew pew don't get me wrong, i love flashy pew pew, but it would be so much better if we had an connection to the ships involved... the part at 045 where that one ship gives broadside is glorious. but who is it fighting? where does all the ammo go to? why is the flak exploding randomly? are there any fighter craft? what is that ship at 1:11 firing at? another ship coming from above? Ships don't fire their guns for the sake of firing their guns. please give them targets - have some bomber squads be blasted out of the sky - just something tht would elevate the shiny shiny pew pew, to something meaningful
This is kinda fascinating. Let me work through these points backwards and tell you why: Roundabout 0:23 you can briefly see a little blurry thing race past the plume of a fired missile. It's a particle rendered as the simple model of a small craft. There are tons of them through most of the video - targets for all those small guns. Just really hard to notice, because compared to ships at 40k scale, they are absolutely minuscule. Which also answers if there are any fighter craft, and why flak's exploding all over - let alone the fact that the flak fields are laid out to catch some of the incoming missile salvos in the process. Meanwhile, the ship at 1:11 is probably setting up to fend off some heavier stuff, perhaps charging escorts like the counterpart to those we see turning and engage in the latter half of the video. But in that same latter half we also get a small glimpse of just how far the enemy main battle line is away. if they sent out a flanking charge, that's going to be indeed quite a ways away and out of frame. Said enemy, btw, would be the Demarchists interdiction forces. That's who the Dynastic Defenders are fighting. Both imperial forces, fighting over the world of Jumunhain as mentioned in the video description and pinned comment. There's also mention of the fact that both sides have territories on said world, or at least a claim to them. There's also some context as to why the fleets are even here and engaging. What's fascinating to me is that pretty much all the answers you're looking for are there. It's just that the lore snippets don't spell things out exactly, or that the details are literally hard to see. All of which is not to say the presentation on all these things couldn't be better. Of course the lore would best be placed in the video itself. And even if the strike craft are small, or targets are out of frame, sharper direction could certainly make these details more clear. Just for some feedback on your feedback, though: The way you're phrasing it +really+ makes it sound like rather than looking for answers, you've jumped to the conclusion that everybody else is an idiot and what's really needed is an explanation of how guns usually need targets. Which, perhaps, isn't the best way to approach this.
It is consistently stated in the lore that 40k ships have weapon ranges measuring in the tens or even hundreds of thousands of kilometers. You wouldn't even be able to see enemy vessels with the naked eye at those distances. So, this is pretty accurate. _"The Chaos battleships responded in kind, launching torpedoes of their own as the right arm of its force swung around in a wide arc to engulf the enemy. Hundreds of thousands of kilometres separated the fleets, yet prow-mounted laser batteries opened up, stabbing lances that shredded dozens of cult vessels."_ *- Dark Creed, pg. 133*
@@henrycooper3431 I like to think of them as local patterns. Everywhere and anywhere in the Imperium, you're going to find thousands of years of shipbuilding tradition. Without the confines of a tabletop, going wild on the designs is a lot of fun!
During the latter days of the seventh siege, the first Dynastic fleet abandoned all lagrange fortresses in favor of the deep gravitic well. Within range of planetary defenses conquered on the southern continent, the diminished defenders were to outlast the onslaught wrestling control over the inner moons from them. In close pursuit, Demarchist interdiction forces sought to seize the opportunity of one decisive battle. After months of long distance evasions and maneuvers, a definitive fight for close orbital control was, at last, at hand.
The ensuing battle famously became the earliest observed by denizens of both capitals first-hand, raining fire and iron down onto a planet yet untouched by the conflict consuming its domain. But while the fight for Jumunhain shook the foundations of this world, it would not end decisively.
Forced to hold position to protect their holdings planetside, the Dynastic defenders were put thoroughly on the defensive, unable to mount sorties for weeks to come. Still, their battle-line remained unbroken, effective denying the Demarchist attackers any viable trajectory for orbital bombardment of the southern continents. In the end, the Dynasty was left more consolidated than ever, whilst the encroaching Demarchist campaign gained bridgeheads sufficient to maintain pressure on Jumunhain indefinitely. On both sides, hope lay with their reinforcements and allies to tip this balance, turning the focus of the Princely War back toward the Outer System, where a race for the sun had begun.
- from the chronicles of the Princely War
I love imperial infighting so much, it looks so cool.
Whatever happens, they'll go out in style!
Seeing the lateral thrusters fire as the ship executed a turn is why I love your channel so much. Your eye for detail is exquisite!
I loved seeing thrusters activate in Battlefleet Gothic Armada so much, I just had to try and add this here.
I love your take on imperial ship design. Retaining the recognisable shapes scale and aesthetic but it giving it a harder Sci fi edge. Just lovely. ❤
If only gw would do whole video with a fleet battle
Too bad GW hates spaceships
@@neishark1735I don’t think they do, but the money is on the ground forces, and that’s all they care about.
@@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ Yeah I know. I dramatized the thing a bit.
But it pains me how litte we get to see space battles in the lore while it should be something more important.
@@neishark1735There used to be a 40k space combat tabletop game with many story and models. And it is out of the production for a long time now. Personally I would like to buy a model of the Lunar class.
@ZZMonkeysUncleZZ Battle Fleet Gothic sold pretty well when they made it. But truth was you could get a playable fleet with 2 £8 boxes of Cruisers and a couple of bilisters of Escorts, so I think there maybe a little truth to them hating it as you didn't have to spend hundreds to get a force
Love your style of animation! Makes me wish for a Battlestar Galactica video 😅
Someday, eventually, I'll do a rewatch of that show again. And I can't possibly do so without at least a little bit of fan art!
@ Whatever you make is always a pleasure to watch!
By the throne, love me some Imperial Navy broadsides.... reminds me a bit of BSG too, always a plus.
After 20 odd years I'm surprised no one has made an Imperial Guard marching video with this song.
Spectacular, as always. I've done a lot of reading about WH40K since the last time you posted one of these animations, and now I have more of an idea what's going on. The last sequence, where we see hundreds of spacecraft streaming forth in battle, isn't just a fine piece of animation, it's chilling when you think about all the people aboard who, to quote Shakespeare, "go to their graves like beds".
Is the Princely War an invention of your own? I don't recognise the names of the factions.
The princely war, the factions and locations are all a homebrew. But in terms of 40k, it's not an uncommon story. Two imperial lords getting into fighting because of some succession crises, tithe disputes, or noble squabbles. It just adds to the tragedy of all those going to their graves. In a galaxy full of grave threads to humanity, they're being wasted in some internal struggle that - in the big picture - doesn#t even matter that much to anyone.
When the ships left the planet and turn toward the enemy fleet, that was great.
Classic Imperial Monday.
Ps: great work.
I am absolutely in love with that Corvette/Frigate-class (idk, 40k ship sizes make what'd be a Dreadnought in conventional scifi little more than a PT boat in 40k) that shows up in the "second half" of the video. Its clearly still imperial, but with a shape so unique one could easily class it as a unique ship pattern made for a rogue trader or something or a specific spec-ops crew.
..and I'd like to know which techpriest I need to bribe to get me one of those myself. For totally legit Imperial business. Yes. Definitely nothing heretical going on.
Now I really wish we could get an animation about Nurgle's spacehulk attacking craftworld Iyanden, that's woould be so cool!
beautiful
incredible
Many thanks!
Datz a lotta dakka
Remeber this is not imperial Navy this just some rouge traders and some planetary defence fleet
So ya imagine imperial Navy or admiral spire
This is equivalent to some gangs on an town fighting
if only we knew who fights who and what the actual tactics used are.
this is shiny ships doing flashy flashy pew pew
don't get me wrong, i love flashy pew pew, but it would be so much better if we had an connection to the ships involved...
the part at 045 where that one ship gives broadside is glorious.
but who is it fighting?
where does all the ammo go to?
why is the flak exploding randomly?
are there any fighter craft?
what is that ship at 1:11 firing at? another ship coming from above?
Ships don't fire their guns for the sake of firing their guns.
please give them targets - have some bomber squads be blasted out of the sky - just something tht would elevate the shiny shiny pew pew, to something meaningful
This is kinda fascinating. Let me work through these points backwards and tell you why:
Roundabout 0:23 you can briefly see a little blurry thing race past the plume of a fired missile. It's a particle rendered as the simple model of a small craft. There are tons of them through most of the video - targets for all those small guns. Just really hard to notice, because compared to ships at 40k scale, they are absolutely minuscule. Which also answers if there are any fighter craft, and why flak's exploding all over - let alone the fact that the flak fields are laid out to catch some of the incoming missile salvos in the process.
Meanwhile, the ship at 1:11 is probably setting up to fend off some heavier stuff, perhaps charging escorts like the counterpart to those we see turning and engage in the latter half of the video. But in that same latter half we also get a small glimpse of just how far the enemy main battle line is away. if they sent out a flanking charge, that's going to be indeed quite a ways away and out of frame.
Said enemy, btw, would be the Demarchists interdiction forces. That's who the Dynastic Defenders are fighting. Both imperial forces, fighting over the world of Jumunhain as mentioned in the video description and pinned comment. There's also mention of the fact that both sides have territories on said world, or at least a claim to them. There's also some context as to why the fleets are even here and engaging.
What's fascinating to me is that pretty much all the answers you're looking for are there. It's just that the lore snippets don't spell things out exactly, or that the details are literally hard to see. All of which is not to say the presentation on all these things couldn't be better. Of course the lore would best be placed in the video itself. And even if the strike craft are small, or targets are out of frame, sharper direction could certainly make these details more clear.
Just for some feedback on your feedback, though: The way you're phrasing it +really+ makes it sound like rather than looking for answers, you've jumped to the conclusion that everybody else is an idiot and what's really needed is an explanation of how guns usually need targets. Which, perhaps, isn't the best way to approach this.
It is consistently stated in the lore that 40k ships have weapon ranges measuring in the tens or even hundreds of thousands of kilometers. You wouldn't even be able to see enemy vessels with the naked eye at those distances. So, this is pretty accurate.
_"The Chaos battleships responded in kind, launching torpedoes of their own as the right arm of its force swung around in a wide arc to engulf the enemy. Hundreds of thousands of kilometres separated the fleets, yet prow-mounted laser batteries opened up, stabbing lances that shredded dozens of cult vessels."_
*- Dark Creed, pg. 133*
YAYYYYY UPDATE
You have no idea about 40K voidships and how void combat is described in the lore, don't you?
Are these fan made ship designs
They are, lore wise these are some discontinued designs used by some Imperial groups floating around in this one sector.
@@henrycooper3431 I like to think of them as local patterns. Everywhere and anywhere in the Imperium, you're going to find thousands of years of shipbuilding tradition. Without the confines of a tabletop, going wild on the designs is a lot of fun!
@@martechi4236 thanks for correcting me. Honestly I love your design more than the offical, there are something so charming about them.
DELETE THAT DIRECTION