What the UK Election Results Mean for the EU
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Labour is likely to win the next election. Does this mean that we will have a different UK approach to the EU? The UK recently went to the polls for the first round of the General Election, a critical event featuring key political figures like Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, Keir Starmer, Ed Davey, and Nicola Sturgeon. Sunak's Conservative platform faced significant challenges, while Starmer continued his push to revitalise Labour, aiming to solidify his influence. Davey, a prominent figure in the Liberal Democrats, sought to attract younger voters, and Sturgeon galvanised the Scottish National Party's base. This video will explain the details and implications of these election outcomes.
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Starmer has ruled out any rejoining. So, no, the UK's approach to the EU is not changing.
@@RealOGfikeydon't hold your breath
@@BertramG-oz4nu Oh I will. Considering the conditions of rejoining means all the previous benefits we had would be gone, there's no chance of us going back in.
Keep up, chap.
Better cooperation but not rejoining the EU is probably the best for now. Let’s focus on domestic problems first. Not like the EU would allow us to join at this stage anyway
The tariffs and travel restrictions will stay though. That's definitely a fairytale policy of Labour. It's in or out. It's also France next to the UK. If Le Pen wins border checks are gonna be way worse on travel and trade.
We would be allowed to rejoin the EU but the main fear is the requirements. Most likely they will ask us to ditch the Pound which is just out of the question
@@vadwvea7153 I doubt they'd get European Council approval until re-joining the EU becomes a non-partisan issue within the UK. Regarding the Pound: assuming the UK meets the convergence criteria they can postpone adopting the euro indefinitely c.f. Sweden; there is no stipulated time period for the adoption of the euro in the legislation.
@@jamiegrant5955 The EC would be aware of that loophole and will probably add clauses that will prevent it completely or make the penalty for doing exceedingly high. Some like automatic expulsion or revoking voting rights in EU institutions would suit that purpose. That said, by the time the UK will rejoin cash will be a thing of the past, so it will probably be less of an issue.
instead I hope that there is no cooperation either, otherwise the message risks being conveyed that any nation can leave Europe, at worst it is enough to make advantageous agreements. Not to mention that if, with these agreements, they improve their situation, they will always be able to say that Brexit worked.
I love how that "Damp Rishi" image is how we will always remember him 😂
It was a raining day.
Seeing the distribution of seats at 7:30 proves to me just how silly First Past the Post electoral systems are. And how poorly they can reflect the will of the voters.
Yes, we end up voting for who we don’t want, rather than voting for who we do want.
In theory it would be fine, cause you vote for one people to represent your region in the parliament. In reality tho, they represent their party...
Agreed though it's funny how much press the Labour win is getting this time around when the Conservatives won a substantial majority the last time with a relatively low vote share. But I'm happy the press are disingenuous enough to push the narrative because I look forward to proportional representation in the future.
proportional representation is the one in the future.
reform doesnt deserve any seats lmao
It's a shame the Lib Dem's didn't get even more MP's. If they did, not only would they of been the main opposition in the house of commons. But they are also in favour of proportional representation.
Lib Dems were the 4th party in vote share.
TBF 71 (maybe 72 when all called) is huge for them. It's completely surpassed where they were pre coalition. I
they took dozens of seats with less votes than reform. they don't deserve any more than they had
@@jamesslater9098I agree. The onus was on Labour to perform better and take more Tory seats which they didn’t do (though often by very slight margins).
@@jamesslater9098 Oh yeah I'm not disputing that. I think they have done very well, and in fact I voted for them as I live in the South-west. But again, it's just a shame it wasn't even higher than that. But there's always next time.
It takes 23 Thousand votes to elect a Labour MP but it takes 850,000 Thousand votes to elect a Reform MP -- There is no Democracy in the UK only a 2 party LABOUR/CONSERVATIVE Dictatorship -- This is why when the UK public get a chance at flipping the middle finger to the system we do it in style
UK system seems so dumb
Not if you believe in ensuring MPs are fully accountable to their local electorate.
As usual you made the concept so much easier to understand. Keep up the great work!😊
Happy to hear that!
why no one's talking about Boris Johnson's reverse umbrella move!
The comment I was looking for🤣🤣😂😂
Strange how the will to join the EU is clearly stronger the further left you go but the EU itself is only shifting further right.
the left usually speaks more to the younger. and higher educated parts of the population. wich also are those that tend to have a better view on the EU.
@@romanplays1 "educated" is a trick term nowadays, it likely represents the "indoctrinated" instead. Young and naive, low information voters that have little life experience and lack of understanding of social construct is the group you are describing.
@@romanplays1As Elon Musk said..."Don't confuse educated with intelligence. "
@@jamesrobert4106 yeah i dont trust quotes from a man who removed hazard markings from his factory because he didnt like the colour of them
@@jamesrobert4106 Don't confuse wealth with knowledge
Labour + Liberals = 46%
Add in Greens + SNP = 60% left wing majority
Conservatives + Reform = 38% Very low indeed.
Labour are against illegal immigration btw 😂
And liberals are center
40% chose not to vote, 7% more than last time. Also Labout did worse than in their polls and lost seats to independents. Most of the people that chose not to vote lost faith in the Conservatives who have been ruling for 14 years, yet still all social institutions moved as far, if not further left than in all other western countries and migration increased while running on a platform promising to reduce migration. Labour won on shaky grounds and if Reform manages to outcompete the conservatives, there will be no stopping Farage.
@@wowjack8944they won’t though. They got basically the same vote share as UKIP did in its prime and this was WITH the Tories being cut up. Unless the Tories manage to continue to fuck things up despite not even being in power anymore, they’ll most likely slowly gain voters again. Nevertheless they still have a good lead on Reform.
i wouldn't particularly call labour left wing anymore but...
Scottish here, only way i see us rejoining the EU is if we were independent. Which... I dont see happening in the next decade.
@@FullaEels I think Alba has the best chances of getting another referendum for you. Be a shame to see you go if you did but that’s democracy 🏴🇬🇧
I assume Labour's plan is to become so aligned with the EU that it will make no meaningful difference whether the UK is inside or out.
@@Optimistic-101 Alba have nothing to offer except division of the Scottish vote....
Certainly not now that you guys pretty much destroyed the SNP in favour of a Labour unionist party. What's going on up there?
So Scotland would vote to gain independence to then join another union lol
UK is not in the EU so I have no idea what’s gonna happen
Answer to your question...... NOTHING whatsoever!
Damn, and people complain about the american electoral system. at least that one makes some sense for the context it was designed for. This? This is one of the most shitty systems I ever saw.
in one vote we turned down PR
Labour got less than 10 million votes, and nigel farages reform got 4.1 million. How does that work?
its genuinely just the fault of our governmental system giving a party with only 33.8% of the votes over 65% of the seats. We've been living in a "democracy" when its just basically a 2 party system that once actual opposition comes in from smaller parties it all falls apart and one of the 2 larger parties gets the majority of the seats still.
True, but the more proportional the system gets: the more coalitions, the higher the risk of extreme parties getting a say, weaker governments, unrepresented constituencies and the more confusing voting gets.
We had a referendum on this system. First past the post won the popular vote
@@melonboiReal Yep...you shouldn't give the person who came second a gold medal.
@@mikeymoo1291 so anglo it stinks tbh. look where that system got you and the US. Two parties, binary society with no actual democratic choice. It's a good system if you want to have civil war on a regular basis though.
@@melonboiRealin other words: "I dislike democracy and don't want the people's will to be represented in parliament"
Imagine blowing a 14 year lead
better job than brit media...!
Not much, of more importance are the election results in France or one of the other EU memberstates.
Labour is like "We want the benefits of EU, but don't want to contribute."
I'm totally at lost tho why not just the Labour, but all the anti EU party got so much votes. We have lots of data pointing to how damaging was and still is Brexit, yet I don't see based on this election that people want to rejoin. I hope the EU NOT gonna play nice with them, just cause we have so much problems elsewhere, people should learn there how beneficial is the EU and advocate for rejoining, NOT playing around wanting the goody but not paying, working for it.
This election was simply not based on the EU/Brexit agenda, it is that simple. The issue was scarcely talked about in the build-up to it.
Because of the nature of the british system people have to vote strategically, Labour might not want to rejoin the eu, but they are more likely to win in most constituencies than any other left leaning party so people were strategic.
As a half brit who currently lives in the uk and as the right to vote, I wanted to vote green, but voted lib dem to stop a right wing party winning in my constituency, many people did the same in my area, and I know many people who elected to vote for Labour in their constituencies for much the same reason.
There are also many reasons why a person might choose a party. Immigration, the health system, the train system, and trans rights are all hot topic issues. Reform whilst wanting to move away from the eu also wants to waive uni fees for doctors and nurses and make private health care more affordable, many within the NHS would be tempted with this promise.
Only another eu referendum would really give a true idea on what the British people think of brexit now if they bother to show up that is.
We don't want the shitty EU get over it
Half of Labour supporters are anti-EU, especially in the North of England, the actual leadership of the party is VERY pro-EU with Keir Starmer campaigning for a second referendum. Labour isn't anti-EU, it just acknowledges that it is a divisive topic and the UK is not ready to rejon yet.
This election was about more than just Brexit.
People do want to rejoin! Look at the current polls!
Having a king is so 16 hundred. And the place they come together is way to narrow and cramped
FPTP system has some benefits but is mostly disadvantageous for smaller parties. It favors bigger parties, but not always. In fact it is theoretical possible that the biggest party doesn’t get any seats because they were the second party in all districts and a variety of other parties were the winner in that district. And you can see the result of votes going to the LibDems and Reform UK, almost the same percentage (12 and 15%), yet the LibDems get about 70 seats in parliament and Reform UK gets 4 seats. The same amount of seats the Green party gets, but they only have 7% of the votes, half of what Reform UK has. It is a super strange system.
fptp is good for smaller populations, but it's retarded for big nations.
There was a referendum in 2011, people chose to have FPTP.
@@blipblop5757 braindead bastards indeed
@@blipblop5757 yes, it was for Alternative Vote, which is a much weaker reform and much less proportional than PR, which was what the Liberal Democrats were asking for in 2010. The LibDems asked for a PR referendum, which they let the Tories water down to an almost pointless AV referendum (in return for tuition fees, brutal austerity, etc.) and the Tories threw massive campaigning machinery of the conservative media behind a "No" vote, which they easily received.
Ironically the AV, which they so brutally campaigned against in 2011, could have saved the Tories from the massive loss of 2024, there are plenty of Labour gained seats in which Conservative + Reform UK together got more votes than the Labour winner. (though that is not a full analysis)
And then you also have to mention that people would vote for other parties than the ones they do under a more proportional system as FPTP forces people to vote for certain parties as to make sure that their vote doesn't get wasted.
Reform got 14% of the vote but only were given 4 seats - that has got to change. The Liberal only got 12% but want proportional representation so would do well to join Reform for that.
this is why the British who define the EU as undemocratic are ridiculous.
@@thomasmerlin4990 UK is the oldest Union in World and EU is trying to destroy it, thats ridiculous and nasty. The Presidency of EU is a selection not a democratic vote.
you're right. reform should have gotten 0 seats.
EU as an organisation is undemocratic.
Commision has too much power.
EU was the best before Lisbon treaty in 2006.
@@thomasmerlin4990
Whose constituency would you give to reform as an additional win when they only won only 5 constituency? FPTP works
It's a shame you didn't include Plaid Cymru the Party of Wales. They won 4 seats and is pro EU. Same amount of seats as Green Party. But Wales as always sidelined.
I think it's just the parties that won the most within the whole of the UK, unfortunately for Wales it is very much a small amount of the population and therefore less likely to have a direct or noticeable impact on the whole Kingdom.
@@user-on1ny4wt8w The video did include the SNP though. They may have won more seats but they were also only running in Scotland so hold little sway on the UK as a whole. Also want to give Wales a shout out for kicking out every incumbant Conservative, Wales is now Tory free! 😄
@@syleshwhycantileavethisbla802 Besides Scotland having more people in population, I'm not really sure why that is then, probably something to do with the history of Parliament and elections in general. 🤷🏽♀️
Wales has never been largely pro-independence, like Scotland, so they dont have a chance of getting their manifesto through ig.
Nobody has been able to explain why Wales mostly voted Leave, even though they generally vote left. I think Wales is ignored because the UK left doesn't want facts getting in the way of their narrative.
I actually do not want the UK to rejoin the European Union. Judging by the surge of the right in Europe and instability within the European Parliament - we need to focus on improving our ties with the bloc, not throwing ourselves back into membership.
Yeah, France has had that Surge "Democratically" changed and now the French government has suddenly and surprisedly swung to the EU leaning left.... IF that doesn't alarm you or wake you up to what is happening.... what will??
Lol your economy suffered greatly because your country was too stubborn to admit that leaving was a mistake.
Everyone has had enough of these climent change crap.
Nah... the EU loves Greta and you'll be shivering for a lot of long winters
why? Don't you like paying a lot more for energy?
Time will Tell what he ACTUALLY DOES ,now he’s in the chair ,wish him the Best BUT I think he will hit the Buffers later on!
Blair was his Mentor..... So... He'll re-join the EU and sell the UK out, flood the Labour market to give Employers the upper hand, find he can't tax the rich (or they leave and pay even less) and so He'll tax the workers to pay for the "FREE" stuff for the Indolent!
Reform got a surprise 5th candidate ! Was very close so was recounted 3 times , he was a paper candidate so not expected to win at all!
FPTP as always being horrible
you mean the “f*cked past the post system” - thejuicemedia
The UK system is also insane as your voting may be rewarded by ending up in the hands of the party you totally disagree with. How can it be democratic a party takes all in a district?
The U.K. election result won’t make things any easier for the working class and things might get worse.
One more great video! I appreciate the fact you explain the results and the voting system really insightful, thanks!
The Labour Government will rejoin the EU, and you can forget a referendum! But the demands of the EU will mean adopting the Euro, as well as SCHENGEN
Sadly they won't join
No to the EU 🇬🇧
To late, Starmer is a mist of Urine and will fall like a cheap tent... the UK is to be renamed State 28
Watched the one on the French elections and this. Fair unbiased summary. Subbed.
As a former LibDem Party member I can tell you they HAVE NOT consistently campaigned to rejoin the EU. I left the party as a result of what I think was/is their cowardly approach to the issue.
At least they had somebody with Integrity, Agree with Brexit or NOT, it was a democratic referendum.... The Fib-UN-democrats choice to ignore it! (they even have the nerve to have Democrats in their Name!)
Labour abandoned the working class years ago, don't lie
The fact that you literally meet with the king is so stupid
It's a dumb tradition, yea. Purely ceremonial. But it's a very strange thing to criticise, considering the ABUNDANCE of other bullshit that the Royal Family can genuinely be criticised for...
Yeah, they should Bow to Von der laden and ask to be the puppet government for state 28 in the EU Reich
The number of seats vs % of vote is a false analogy..!!
The number of seats represents what the “People” of those constituency WANT TO PRIORITIZE as their concerns about how they want to be governed”
That may be different in different constituencies… and that means ALL HAVE TO BUILD CONSENSUS to similar goals on each issue or concern … regardless of differences on “tertiary, or smaller concern issues of less import to all” or others minority and not govern or pass laws that don’t“concern the majority” OF THE PEOPLE …!!
Politicians are puppets
Hold them accountable
Rejoining, if at all, should be very low on the agenda. Much more urgent things to adress. Take a deep breath, normalize relations as much as possible, cooperate, don't antagonize.
The ship has not actually "" sailed "" yet as you claim in your other comment. And the things you mention at the end can be done & focused upon first regardless.
No!
Brexitannia bought a ticket on the never come back line.
🇪🇺🇳🇱
You 🇬🇧 can neither 'rejoin' nor 'join' - not up the any random applicant.
We 🇪🇺 decide about granting membership, as things are, you'll wait as long as Turkey has been waiting .... 40+ years. You fail to meet 50% of the accession criteria.
And those EU27 members that profit from Brexit would and will veto you anyway. Hazard an educated guess as to why?
Spoiler: *PROFIT*
Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
@@fcassmannKeep groundhogging, dear fellow EUropean! 😊
Seeing the comments from EU citizens here I can, as a Norwegian and somewhat of an outsider myself, understand a bit of what the Brits are sensing.
But Brits, you also have to understand that the EU has kept up with your fee-fees and sense of exceptionalism for quite some time now.
United emirates kingdom
Labour and Tories will never want to abandon FPTP. It keeps them in power, whenever in opposition they always bring up reforming the electoral system but when they get in power they’re silent abt it bc they won’t X seats due to FPTP regardless of vote share and popularity
Election results were just like Boris Johnson's umbrella !
I honestly can't find a solid reason to say an confident in Sir keir Starmer and his government, but anyway lets wait and see what happens
Changed Labour are not Centre left
Yes they are mate, they're just not far-left like Corbyn.
@@mildlydispleased3221 No there is nothing to the Left about them at all.
@@Quotenationsnationalising rail, strengthening the NHS, tax breaks for poorer people, higher taxes for the wealthy, but sure, we’re dealing with a bunch of far right nut jobs 🙄
@@Quotenations Cry more, Corbyn crazies.
Labour and Tories are both pretty much disgusting foul social democrat parties.
Keir Starmer and Rishi Sunak are both stank blairites, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"
1:26 Boris? Are you haven’t a bit of trouble?
Boris is the physical manifestation of "a bit of trouble" 😆
Evenredige vertegenwoordiging gang🇳🇱💪😎
Joining the single market is a benefit of EU membership not a step along the way to membership.
EEA is also in the single market such as Norway
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 EEA = 3 EFTA states and 27 EU states and the EU itseklf in the European Economic Agreement (EEA). it is the single market of today. So you are right the single market is in the single market.
This is the reality:
After Brexit , not being a member of EFTA, and not an EU member, UK could not be an EEA member and could not be a candidate to become one.
Article 126 of the EEA states that « The Agreement shall apply to the territories which the Treaty establishing the EEC (today the EU) is applied and to the territories of Iceland, the Principality of Liechtenstein and the Kingdom of Norway ».
These three States are members of EFTA and, in accordance with articles 108 of the EEA Agreement, have established the EFTA Surveillance Authority and the EFTA Court. Both these institutions are only competent for these three States. Their role is to ensure the fulfillment by the EEA EFTA States of their obligations under the EEA Agreement. They are not competent for Switzerland, despite this country being a member of EFTA.
UK as an independent third country cannot establish said organisations, a supranational court under EU rules, outside EFTA/EEA.
Procedurally, in order to become a member of the EEA ( not applying for EU membership version) UK would first have to present its candidacy and negotiate and conclude an accession agreement to become an EFTA member according to article 56 of the Convention establishing the EFTA. This is because the EEA cannot apply to non EU member States, with the exception of Iceland, Liechtenstein and Norway, precisely because they are members of EFTA according to article 126 of the EEA. Thus, UK will have to negotiate an accession treaty to EFTA with the four members of this organisation: Switzerland and the three EEA EFTA members.
Once becoming an EFTA member, UK will then have to negotiate an EEA accession treaty with the 31 entities which are members of the EEA: the EU, its 27 member States and the three EEA EFTA members. The Parties could agree to proceed to both negotiations at the
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 Norway is a de facto EU member, it follows EU directives and all freedoms apply. Including freedom of movement. Plus Norway is a EEA member which is not open to Britain.
@@dutchuncle3310Single market was the purpose of the EU, not the current political bs and dictatorship of EU commision.
Not the climate crusade or any other stupid idea.
If we continue on that path, EU will end the same way as USSR did.
@@MyPrideFlag the single market was and is a vehicle to ensure peace in Europe after a 1000 years of war to make countries interdependent and war between members impossible.
Asking because I don’t know for sure. When was the most prosperous period of UK’s economy? The 1990s?
The 1980s for those well place. The decade of utter excess.
The 1800s lmao
19th century
The 50s and 60s, post war boom, was pretty good.
This new government will shrink the MoD, especially with its increasing of social programs.
What Europeans maybe don't understand well enough is just how divisive the Brexit referendum and subsequent negotiations were for us. It paralysed British politics for years and split families and friendships. Nobody wants to go back to that chaos, so there will be no massive push to reopen that debate.
The new Government will work together with our allies and fix some of the Brexit problems, but this will be done quietly and incrementally. Many of us want to rejoin eventually, but that is a long-way off.
Should be noted that when Starmer said we'd not rejoin the EU in his lifetime - he is 61 years old already. So we could rejoin in like 30yrs or something and that would still be true.
Starmer hates Britain and is as weak as a mist of urine.... He'll sign a "Treaty" (WITHOUT A PUBLIC VOTE!....like John major did with Maastricht, That how EU democracy works!!) with the EU by the end of 2025!
please do a video on the proportional representation
SNP aren’t centre left mate. They’re moderate left or even far left in some areas. Maybe on a very small number of issues they are centre. Scottish oil for example.
all tories votes gone to Germany watching Euros😂
stop calling Labour "center left" they are Centre Right
I suspect that trying to rule with 33.9% of the vote is unstable longer term. Sure, it's the way UK elects Parliament, and it's not the only country that uses first past the post to elect a legislature, but will a pay remain popular if its policies only appeal to 33.9% of the population?
I wonder if Labour would do well to informally find topics to collaborate on with the Liberal Democrats and Greens (total vote share just over 50%), in areas concordant with Labour's own objectives. Give those voters something, without doing anything opposed to Labour voter values, and popularity might stay higher than for a party that tries to appeal only to a third of voters.
The advantage of the British system is that it generally produces a result and so now the Labour party can govern in the way it proposed in its manifesto. I didn't vote for Labour this time (or in fact anybody as my vote is still in the post somewhere) however I respect their right to do what is in their manifesto as they won in the majority of areas. Interestingly some of their manifesto commitments are only possible because the UK has left the EU - VAT on private schools, Indian FTA, join the CPTPP, ban traditionally made Foie-Gras and renationalise the railways.
After Labour has finished the job the Tories started (making a pig's breakfast of Britain) a renewed EU membership will look a lot more appealing, even for the political establishment as it was always rather convenient to blame Brussels for pretty much anything
I don't understand the "The SNP (or other pro-EU party) first wants to join the Customs Union, then the Single Market, and finally: the EU!" 'explanation' as if these are separate steps. There's no cherry-picking option: *only EU or EFTA members are allowed SM and CU access* . The UK as a 'Third Country' has currently access to neither and will only gain access by becoming an EU member. Or an EFTA member, but EFTA members Norway and Iceland don't want the UK in EFTA and will block an application. Which leaves EU membership. How to get that? See EU Article 49.
@@maartenaalsmeer do you think there is any weight in Macrons idea of a tier’d EU with different levels of integration?
@@Optimistic-101 No weight at all. It was an idea by a French-German think tank years ago, aimed at Eastern European prospect member states. An idea that was briefly discussed within EU circles and then dismissed as a policy. But the UK press jumped on the mere mention of it and made it bigger than it ever was.
Groundhog day 🤦♀️🙄🤣!
Sisterly hugs!
@@maartenaalsmeer thanks for clearing that up. I’m happy out.
@@EllieD.Violet 🤗
412 seats!!? Wow 😂they really meant change
Great Boris b-roll
Even though it’s pretty unrealistic, I’m really hoping that Starmer said that there wouldn’t be a second referendum just in order to get more rural voters, but now that the election is over Labour will to use their majority to push for another referendum sometime in the next few years.
They might call another referendum in a few years but they couldn’t force it, there’s no political efficacy to make such a move they’d be defeated in the next election and the EU wouldn’t have such an unstable entry
@@Geetfried then you’ll see how fast the country will turn on him. Boris thought lying would work & he went sharpish.
And? A second referendum changes nothing, les rosbifs can have 365 referenda per annum if it makes them happy. Won't make us 🇪🇺 to have them back.
Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
@@EllieD.Violetyes.....and no. If the reported numbers on how the British population are beginning to view brexshit are accurate, it may not be that long before both sides ( of the Channel) accept that Britain AND the EU are BOTH better off together.....and I'm praying it'll come in the 15 to 20 years I have left in this life.
I've always suspected that we don't really know what Labours policies on the EU really are, they seemed so scared of talking about the EU or Brexit before the election in case it divides the votes that they were keeping their cards close to their chest.
Now that the elections are over with and they've won by a landslide, they can open up without worrying about the election, but don't expect much for around a year, then after that, who knows what there policies are on the EU are, but we'll find out over the coming years and I suspect they won't be in line with what they've said, and much of that could depend on where the wind is changing with the public, which seems more favourable on the EU then it was when the UK was in the EU.
In any event, realistically, the EU won't allow the UK to rejoin for at least 2 decades, the best we can hope for is closer relations, which can happen right away, single market and custom union access might be doable over the decade, but that really is dependent on how much the UK pushes on that, because it will be under EU terms, not UK terms, so if the UK even tries for any op-outs, it's going to stall the negotiations for decades.
We have a backup plan for their back up
Hope not support war and focus for British priority.
Once you leave the EU there is no way of going back.
Keep *FPTP* voting because it works fine.
"They also want to leave the europeab convention on human rights" how fucking evil can you be
First past the post sucks but it benefits whomever is in government. So they have no reason to want to change the system.
The only chance we have of getting PR in some form is if there is a hung Parliament and one of the larger parties is forced into coalition with a smaller party and the smaller party makes it an unequivocal condition of their agreement that PR be implemented.
In that case the 2nd biggest party would give in to the 1st party with few conditions just to keep the 2 party system xD maybe a bit of a conspiracy theory. Or is it? ahah
@@joaosoares2570 The thing is, this election was so unfair, even the second largest party, the Conservatives, would have gotten more seats under PR. But they aren’t currently in government so there is very little they can do about it.
Why does Reform only get 4 seats?
good news!
reform uk got a 5 seat from predicted 3 seats
If anyone hopes that anything will change in the UK, I must disappoint you. The UK is now a parochial country that has no influence on anything because it has nothing to offer and it will get worse and worse. The UK is not able to negotiate any favorable contracts for themselves, they will have to subordinate themselves to the People's Republic of China because they are slowly taking over everything, everything is much more expensive and the wages are a disaster. To live normally in London you need to earn £95,000, which is impossible for a normal employee.
Im against any interaciton with the UK after they left the EU. They made the mess live with it.
The UK PEOPLE voted NOT to be part of the EU Reich, they DIDN'T have a vote on Maastricht / the EU until the referendum! The UK public DID have a vote on the EEC and agreed to join a European friendly cooperation.... They DIDN'T agree to a EU Reich... people Died to keep Nations free and Not spit on their graves!
Who needs them explained, Torry Tossers out. Lets hope Labour better. After all the movement was started in Scotland. 👍
Could you please make a video about salaries and total breakdown of expenses in EU?- how many are they, and tge total GDP of the EU, cause crine and hunger is rising in Europe. Big companies are flying Germany, what is the real result as in Euro 2024?- shouldn't they leave if the EU does not score?
First past the post is a great system as it provides clear winner and stability. There will be no constitutional crisis as is the case in France at the moment. Percentage of votes do not matter in a parliamentary democracy as everything depends on individual constituency seats.
You mean how it was rigged
Reform has 5 seats not 4 they flipped one seat very late after this video was posted
That’s a beat down
Very well made video.
UK don’t want to be a part of EU anyways lol
And we don't want the British, now that we've finally got rid of them.
There's more than half of us that do.
@@SirAmnesia Yelp okay if you say so, but we aren’t joining back anyways
@@Galapheus we aren't re-joining, don't be worried
It means the uk is lost
Immigration policy is the hidden cancer; France (and the EU) is lost, UK may survive!
I'm surprised that you concentrated on the percentage of the vote as that is just an interesting side point in the reality of "First Past The Post" and most disappointingly you totally left out Northern Ireland where 2 of the parties have more seats that Reform UK namely Sinn Fein with 7 seats and DUP with 5 seats. Northern Ireland of course still has one foot in the EU with regard to Trade matters.
I’m glad Labour is finally in power, but it’s a shame that they won’t rejoin the EU. I hope we’ll rejoin eventually. We definitely need to address the voting system though.
The UK might not rejoin the EU in his life time but Scotland might and I can't wait for that to happen.
Yeah, give up so called English rule (Despite Holyrood, ah the English Bassturds) and surrender to EU domination.... Lets hope the EU supports Scotland's failing SNP services instead!
@@an-albumhole4400 "Domination" lol. Do some therapy plz.
So what I'm hearing is joining the eu is the right option
A view from outside UK and the EU, why does the UK really need to be in the EU? I see videos where they say , oh after brexit, food is expensive , goods and trade with EU have suffered, but why? US , Australia, Canada China and others all trade with the EU, and they aren’t part of the EU and don’t seem to have a problem trading with them…. All of this seems like EU being punitive because the UK left the EU and making an example out of them lest other EU members get any ideas?
The message is: "You can leave but we'll destroy you. And be a good dog and submit to everything Eurocrats in Brussels come up with. Unless you're Germany or France, then you actually have influence on things".
Prime minster he won’t stay last long on prime minsters not long he be out. And I do not want go back to EU
Nothing. Next question.
It means nothing. In terms of the EU and the relationship with the UK, Starmer=Sunak. Or, better said: Labour=Tories. Same thing. Starmer is a brexiteer and an apologist of the "brexit means brexit" rhetoric. There will be no differences in the EU-UK relations at all.
Wanna Bet, Starmer is weak and anti British..... He'll have signed away the UK to the EU by 2025!! He'll do what John Major did with Maastricht! , He'll sign a "Treaty" with the EU WITHOUT a Public vote.... Ya Know the way the EU likes it in a "Democratic" non public voting way!
1:24 It had to be Borris
Uk is not in EU any more but you have made a video on this topic
The UK is the EU's closest trading partner.
Just give us Scottland and northern island to where it belongs. We dont want england.
Ahh, give up your own parliament and surrender to the will of 27 nations lead & dominated by the wallet & Will of France & Germany!.... Now ya talking sense!!!
Means more money for the politicians, at the expense of the citizen
Reform uk 🇬🇧 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Labour are far from a centre left party honestly, not anymore. Especially from a European perspective, where you can actually compare them to left wing parties.