They understood it was a joke, so they clapped for the joke as a joke. Brexit was stupid people and old people who were not smart enough to realise the severity of this referendum.
Sofia Smith Please, I hear half a dozen laughs at most. Of course people who can't vote for a head of the Commission would clap having their democratic right taken away. It's what they voted for.
Vincent Freel its not just the clapping, the way some remainers are responding to the referendum result show they dont like democracy. The fact they want another referendum proves this
CfCFan99 The second referendum is specifically for people that have changed their mind and comes under the priviso that remain needs 60% to win this time. I think that's perfectly acceptable. Quite frankly I'd say anyone that opposes that is more likely to be against democracy than someone that is in favour.
ashastings92 The Last Leg is a COMEDIC show that has been going for 4 years and Josh is a very sarcastic comedian. Do you seriously think the audience didn't realise he was taking the mick?
The reason were are divided is because a minority of politicians (1/100000) have pursued a policy of joining the UK to a united states of Europe when we did not want them to.
I wish everyone who voted remain were as empathetic and as understanding as Alex. The only thing that has shocked me about this referendum is the immaturity and petulance of the losing side - the majority have completely embarrassed themselves.
This isn't about a losing side, this is about people's lives, so you can't expect them not to react negatively to something that is devastating to our country!
'devastating' - please stop with this divisive, fear mongering, hysterical rhetoric. It's a great decision for our country as a whole and anyone who knew the first thing about the EU and the frameworks it operates within would agree. I'm now sick and tired of hearing these selfish remain procrastinators crying and making threats.
+Moo - Arrogant condescension, hmmm that'll make me take you seriously. The EEC was the model the British people voted to join, that has morphed into a union that has greater and greater political and law making powers and now incorporates states that are just not compatible with us culturally or economically. The tariffs and frameworks the EU imposes on certain industries are crippling in a competitive world market. European nations exist fine outside the EU, in fact they flourish. Finally, it's baffling to me that people are so ready to disregard their national sovereignty and self determination that previous generations spilled blood to maintain, how can they be this stupid?
KatchouroBlade All economists said remain, people who were more educated said remain, young people said remain ( who are more open minded), the prime minister said remain. Boris, Farage and Gove said leave as well as the most uneducated areas and Trump. This is devastating considering we have no plan, no prime minister and no opposition party now.
+Sofia Smith Your comment just proved how stupid and ridiculous you are. If you can only be fed information from 'experts' and not find out for yourself, then clearly you are the 'uneducated' one. Get off your high horse! Tell me. Since I'm a young person and I wanted to leave, yet I study politics, am I still uneducated? There have been many 'experts' who have wanted to leave, but the biased media hasn't talked about those. People like you should be ashamed of the way you have just thrown insults and labelled people 'uneducated' simply because people didn't vote the way you did.
Well said Alex! now is not the time to hate but the time to be more united than ever and make sure now that the people who lead us are not dicks and actually represent the people
UNITED?! this whole fucking thing was about being independant, now scotland, N. Ireland, wales will leave the UK to stay in the EU, so we've gone from the UNITED kingdom to the DIVIDED kingdom. GREAT
the £ crashed after city bankers gambled £20million on a remain victory, and while it crashed the euro did worse. make of that what you will. and Scotland may leave the UK... the SNP wanted to leave years ago, that's nothing new. irish nationalists want to unify Ireland, also nothing new. Cameron resigned purely of his own volition. this show is very biased. I thought one of the biggest things to come out of the results was how badly the labour party are doing, and how much they have lost touch with their electorate. if it had been possible to keep all our trading terms, but retain full political powers and cap migration levels, we wouldn't have left. but despite 4 years of effort, the EU was unwilling to reform, despite us being the 2nd biggest contributor in monetary terms. and of the few concessions we did get, only capping the amount of child benefit abroad had any tangible figures attached to it, and otherwise a few wishy-washy "assurances" with no real backing or legislation. Cameron agrees the EU has many short-comings, but we should be at the table to help make those reforms. i would agree, but after 4 years of trying it obviously is not working. unfortunately we have had to leave the EU, and now that we have maybe the EU will stand up, take notice, and make those reforms. although I doubt we will be the only country to leave now
***** which bits do you think are wrong? i'm surprised you say the pound will crash further as on the Friday it actually rallied back up. markets are fickle, the pound rose on the week because the city was so confident in a remain win based on yougov polls. wake me up when hit 1:1 with the dollar
Only think i can say against that is, politics takes a lot of time. Saying people are giving up after 4 years of trying is pretty shitty really. Big changes often take YEARS to implement or even begin thinking about. I don't see why you would expect now to be any different!
+ Turtles that's the faux left. The real left voted Leave to protect their communities and jobs from the excesses of globalism, big government and uncontrolled irresponsible immigration.
True, but heres the thing about democracy, uneducated votes and racist votes count. From what i've been gathering, majority of the "LEAVE" votes came from closed minded, racist and uneducated individuals. Some that did vote LEAVE did actually have reasons to do so that are valid, but i think that if more people educated themselves before voting, the votes would have been dramatically different.
Oh and how did you work that out? and if you knew the advantages of leaving then why did you not vote so? The People have Spoken! Respect our democratic right to rule our selves and control our own nation! we have taken back control and Independance is everything... no more will a forign entity tell us what to do! The people will it! It amazes me that people would want to remain when we was just a sinking ship basically.. with all the wrong holes sinking us, now those holes will be fixed, and our nation shall set sail, Full speed ahead, for better or worse we will pull through it as a nation and come to a better place at the other side... Countrymen now lets make this work, and introduce what is rightfully our right to introduce as a soverign nation!
+Non Stop Spartan Lad is right vote leave won because those who voted for them are all racist and retarded. Only the intellectual and refined voted to remain. We believe in democracy and that's why we have petitioned for another referendum and will continue to do so until we get the result we want which is to remain. That is TRUE democracy. If anything democracy is not allowing people the chance to vote. It is to make the decisions for them.
Yes I am a working class white man who voted LEAVE to stop other working class white men from other EU countries coming over here and "taking mah jawb!"... Oh wait, same ethnicity so how the fuck can it be racism?
Alover OfLove No he is wrong, as are YOU, and stop throwing that around, its getting old... the people who voted Leave came from all backgrounds believe it or not, even the familys of past immigrants can see that what is happening today is too much, and that having some other foreign entity tell us what to do as a nation is just wrong, and No you don't believe in true democracy, you just don't like the result you got.. we won deal with it... and who are YOU! to make decisions for the people, through out history it has always been the best way for the PEOPLE them selves to decide on what they will! people like you who think you can decide on our behalf when the majority are against it have always faced an Insurrection, its a good thing you are not in power... because there has been many a revolt against despotic rulers like you, accept the peoples decision to leave, do you think if it had been the will of the people to remain? id be kicking up a fuss like you, no id accept it, id be disappointed but I would not be going against a democratic decision, then at least I could say when things continued to go wrong, I told you so, people will always want sovereignty and you cant take that away from them.
Oh of course. Clearly remain was the educated choice. Although I voted leave I'm clearly so much lower and uneducated to you. Despite the fact that I study politics. I must say though you will be very red faced if this country prospers and thrives outside of the EU. Get off your fucking high horse! Education does not give common sense! I have no more words for people like you who think they are so much better because they chose to remain. Its only been a few days since the referendum and already people are saying its an economic crisis. We haven't even left the EU yet! It takes 2 years to leave it! So rather than saying one choice is right and the other is wrong, wait and see what happens! And being educated doesn't stop you from sounding like a brainless and uninformed twat.
"Democracy doesn't work!" I think what he means is that having the entire population decide on some really important matter isn't always the wisest way to go. He doesn't mean "it doesn't work because it didn't get the results I wanted", it simply means that certain results are not ideal, but the population might opt to go for the less desirable choice. Obviously, in his views, leaving the E.U. was not ideal, and so according to him, that's the bad choice to make. It's a risk they took when leaving it up to the public. Big things like this should not be left in the hands of random people, many of whom may lack the required information, knowledge and insight to even make that decision. It's kinda like asking a class full of 6 year olds what they want to eat; candy or carrots. Many of them will probably go for the candy, because that sounds way better, even though having the carrots is healthier for them. They don't know, they don't care, they want the candy. So we let adults decide for them, because that's better for them. And let's be realistic, you can hardly argue that this referendum is the most democratic way to go.. well, maybe it is, but there are many, many decisions that a few make for all the others. This happens all the time. Other topics aren't voted on by the population, so where's the democracy there? Why have the public decide this particular matter and not all others? So saying that maybe this should not be left up to the people, that isn't saying that they can't decide for themselves, or maybe it is.. but the point is; this is very selective democracy, and the topic selected for the public to decide on is a rather important one. So maybe not the smartest thing. Democracy in that sense can fail to bring about the most desirable outcome, as is seen with this Brexit example. Perhaps have it as a criterion that whatever option is decided upon, at least 66% of the voters should have opted to either leave or stay. This was much closer I believe, basically cutting the population in two equally big parts, which causes this weird internal division. Hence the statement about it no longer being a united Kingdom. It's like having a hall filled with a thousand people, and you then let them democratically decide what they're going to be drinking. They can either have milk, or water. 499 people could be lactose intollerant, so all of them want the water, but the 501 want milk. So they get the milk, but 499 of them are going to have a really bad evening. This vote on the Brexit however shows us how difficult it is for the politicians. If it was left up to the politicians, you'd still have around 50% of the population hating on whatever decision they would have made. So regardless of what they would have chosen, half of the country would still have hated their guts for whatever choice they would have made. Problematic scenario indeed. Whatever they would decide on, it would never be seen as a good thing, not by the population, collectively. So it's almost as if the politicians went: "You know what, let them decide, then they can fight and hate eachother, and we won't have to deal with it." I don't think that's the intention at all, but it's a cute conspiracy theory nonetheless.
I voted Remain in the referendum (*hides quickly*). I was 18 and it was the first time I'd been able to vote in any sort of political vote. Before I voted, though, I researched what was happening and came to a conclusion I thought was best. I know a lot of people in my age bracket did the same. It was their first public vote and they didn't want to seem stupid. Very few had strong connections to a political party so they weren't influenced by what that party was saying.
The main problem with your generation of voters, they never seen what it was like before ted heath scammed the UK into the eec. You have only ever know us as part of the eec/eu. I was only 7 years old in the 1975 leave or remain vote, so my entire adult life I was denied any direct say on the eec/eu involvement. My generation has wanted a say for 41 years. I was staunch labour until toxic tony came along and ruined the Nation beyond recognition,
See, the part focusing on the section of people whose lives are already shit is what needs to be said. Same with US and the election. Hillary's big support came from cities like new york and los angeles, the most populated. People in those cities have great lives and are open to many jobs. The rest of the US has been dealing with alot of shit they hate and reacted as such. They wanted change.
The referendum took place, the ballot cast, the result should be respected. This is democracy. Believers in Remain should have worked harder to get their voters out. I hear a lot of students complaining about the result but voting on Facebook isn't good enough. Student turnout was low.
It was an age thing. Those under 50 wanted to remian and those over 50 wanted to leave. Those who don't have so long to live with the consiquences won the referendum but hey that's democracy for you
Deltaexio But a large number of those will not have to suffer the consiquences (statistically thousands of the older voters will be dead before we even change PM never mind leave the EU). I suppose one could argue those better educated should have more say, or those who make more money for the economy should have more of a say
What Kind Of Society Are We? Since voting to leave the European Union I have been very disappointed with the amount of people who voted to remain, in particular young people, saying they feel ashamed. Based on the fact that they believe everyone who voted to leave did so because of immigration, even though this isn’t true. However I would like to add support to those who voted to leave because of immigration in a sensible manner unlike the sensationalist propaganda thrown at us by both sides in the lead up to the referendum. Immigration is essential to any successful economy but as with anything that is successful it has to be controlled and it has to be managed. It is not about colour, it is not about what language you speak, it is not about what country you are from and it is not about religion. It is about numbers. I would ask all those who feel ashamed to think of HHE. I have many friends and acquaintances that have come here from foreign countries and I have the same respect for them as my British friends and colleagues. However the fact is that the number of people wishing, trying and succeeding in coming here is far greater than our infrastructure can cope with. This has put unsustainable demand on our HHE. Health: Our Health service is buckling. Stress and moral amongst its multi-cultural workforce is at rock bottom as we struggle to cope with the sheer volume of people who need care. There are many reports that the strain is leading to highly skilled doctors, nurses and surgeons, some who have come from abroad now looking for positions outside of the UK. If we cannot provide adequate care to our citizens no matter where they were originally born then what kind of society are we. Housing: We are experiencing housing shortage on a scale that I never thought to see in my lifetime. This has led to a market where young people have little hope of ever owning their own homes while at the same time financially crippling them with rents that are nothing shy of daylight robbery. If we can`t offer our citizens the safety and security of their own home then what kind of society are we. Education: Every successful, peaceful and rewarding society needs a good education system. Our classrooms are packed to the rafters, often with children from many different countries who do not speak English as their first language but we don’t train our teachers to be multilingual. As with the health service this is driving some very skilled and educated people away from teaching. If we can’t offer our citizens a good education then what kind of society are we.
+Sam Jay Most of the teachers (especially Economics and Politics teachers) at my college said that they voted out. Of which all of them said that the EU needed reform
Procrastinator Adrian the EU does need reform, this is obvious. But that doesn't mean leaving is correct. It's interesting teachers where you are want to leave as most teachers at the school I used to go to wanted to stay and all of my university lecturers wanted to stay. That's an interesting contrast
I love these people who are annoyed with the “Democracy doesn’t work part” and saying it’s because they lost. Well, it’s not like Leavers wouldn’t have done the same thing. Garage was already complaining BEFORE THE RESULTS CAME IN when he thought Remain would win, but swiftly changed his tone afterwards. Convenient until it isn’t.
Complaing about conMoron changing the voting rules allowing extra time trying to get 2 million more students to register. 41 years it took them to ``allow`` the UK a direct say. the eu democracy doesn't work because the eu is anti democratic.
The Pound is on the same levels as it was in Feb. The FTSE is at its best all week. The leave vote hurts the Euro the most, that gives us leverage over them. This means we can get the deal we want. Ghana have already approached us for a deal within a few hours, Australia's PM has said he is interested in trading. All of the Commonwealth, particularly Africa is interested in trade. As long as the Tories dont fuck it up there are very good and prosperous times ahead.
Beta Fascist It will go back after a few months. The Euro suffered far worse than the Pound, goes to show how desperate they were for us to stay, we now have a massive advantage over them for a trade agreement.
Beta Fascist True indeed. However one thing we should worry about is the 250 billion Pound injection the Bank of England will pump into the economy. That will have long term problems for the economy in the future and I bet you the media will blame it on Brexit.
I'm surprised this is still on RUclips. I'm not one for gloating, but when you sit in front of TV cameras and smugly suggest that democracy has gone wrong, then 2 months later it looks as though democracy didn't go wrong after all, in fact, it made things BETTER for society, you deserve all the contempt you could possibly soak up as a self-righteous human being.
+Winter Frosty they said they could spend it on the nhs, and yet still could. All Farage said was that they wouldn't necessarily spend it all on the nhs, but that there will be that much money to spend on whatever we want.
And the EU very graciously gives a proportion of it back. Not quietly as all the big signs will demonstrate. But the buggers keep the rest to give to their mates and buy holiday homes in Barbados. If Croatia wants motorways, let Croatia pay for them. We did for ours!
Josh says "Democracy doesn't work" and everyone applauds. Even though he was only joking, isn't it amazing how many people hate democracy?And what's Adam the Australian citizen talking about.. Who's he getting Angry with? Why in a democracy would someone get angry with people who have a different view to them? That doesn't sound like he or the audience are very democratic, it sounds like they want to dictate to people who they deem to be less intelligent as them, and call people with different views hateful names and get angry with them. Sounds a bit like bullying, sounds a lot like a dictatorship is what they want and I'm not sure that's a good thing.... Oh and it was really 52% not 51%...He's right though, people have been using food banks for the past few years. 0 hour contracts etc.... And all this has happened inside the EU, so people have thought it can't be any worse to bring about a change. And 2 weeks on, Australia, New Zealand, China and now the USA all want to have free trade deals with us. The markets are raising above pre Brexit levels, the £ started to make a come back. Students might have to get a visa to live and work in other EU countries. Which may take them about 2 hours so stop being lazy.Oh and by the way can people stop confusing Europe with the EU! Europe is 51 countries and the EU is 28 countries. So we still are and will always be in Europe,
Imagine if leaders from outside your own country made laws and rules in which you had no choice but to abide? Would you not do the same? Our economy has and will continue to take a battering, but this is only short term. Britain will grown and thrive once again.
Most of the people in London didn't vote to remain, the majority however did! It was approximately 60% Remain and 40% leave, the opposite to most of the other areas of England and Wales.
Here's why the referendum was a bad idea If you have a kid you can't give them what they want all the time You're the smarter adult and know best We have these intelligent professionals in power who are better suited for the choices
You say that like there wasn't any intelligent people voting out. People voted out for their own reasons, there were people who have fought for our country voting out, doctors, buisness owners, xenophobes, right wingers, left wingers, those who sit on the fence, those who had no clue, those who were clued up to the eye balls and know everything there is to know about the EU. Same for remain, people vote out of their own interests, what benefits them. These intelligent professionals in power could do what parents do and ignore the children who demand icecream before bed. But they can't cause the people aren't children, and those in charge are out of touch idiots who have millions stashed away in an off shore account. We were fucked either way.
politics is an opinion on how to distribute wealth not a scienceOf course you want a professional doctor but if I am in a restaurant and order the pork and Jamie oliver says he;s an expert and I should have ordered the chicken, I will say fuck off I hate chicken
I don't believe that voting to leave makes me a racist. I believe the remain voters who were happy to see an extremely high inflow of foreigners in to eventually make the British races extinct are racist. We all have our own opinions
Except leaving the EU has done nothing but hinder our ability to stop the flow of other nationals, we'll need to sign up to freedom of movement to have access to the EU market, only this time we'll have zero say in EU laws. Voting to leave might not make you a racist, but it makes you shortsighted and highly misinformed.
Sorry to say this, but considering the history of the British Isles, high influxes of foreigners changing the country is pretty standard for us. In fact, it's arguably overdue for happening again. I don't see why anyone would, though, all we have is marshlands, shoddy workmanship, barely edible food and 15-minute celebrities.
white britons can trace their ancestry back to these islands for thousands of years, try again. just because the normans invaded doesn't mean we want to be invaded again, derp.
***** And they can also be traced all across Europe. Ancestry isn't a straight line. Besides, it wasn't just the Normans, it was also the Angles, Saxons, Vikings and Romans, in no particular order. There may be others that I've forgotten, but these five were the most influential. People just love invading the British Isles.
Sensia v7.03 This is our ancestral homeland not the rest of the worlds. End of. I bet you wouldn't deny the the maoris are an indigenous peoples. Leftists are able to grasp why Palestianisn or Tibetans, you know basically anyone not white fight against being culturally, politically & demographically dispossessed in their homelands, but can't seem to afford that same understanding for Europeans. Why? You are an anti white, plain and simple.
Oh, so the people in London are the 'smart' ones... I won't be out of a job because of Brexit (engineer) but I can guarantee most Londoners in the finance sector will be looking for work. I'll enjoy my 'dumb' 100k p/a pay cheque while you geniuses look for your next income. Well done, indeed.
that was a pretty good speech, but to answer some of the questions here in the comment, most people assume it was a protest vote because of the geography of the vote, places that were more developed, like cities and high-end towns voted remain in a greater margin than they voted leave, areas where i live, like the south west, North wales, and Northern England mainly voted leave of a huge dissatisfaction with the government, there are videos of people who voted leave explaining this on RUclips. next one, you are right to point out the whole "democracy doesn't work because i didn't get the result i wanted" thing, but honestly tell us you would have backed down if the nation voted remain, in this country there's a law stating even after a referendum of election, a political party/group can continue to protest their point, and considering the mass division of the electorate, a second referendum could have helped to stabilize the country further, or divide it further, but either way, we'd have a clearer image of what'll happen next, and how to approach it. last one, please don't get too toxic, this is a very divisive topic, and the last leg has been pretty balanced on their view in this video, it's just an opinion after all, we don't need to get so violent about it, just calm yourself.
Yes I do Captain, they are Neo-Liberal I'm embarrassing to be British, that's a Remainic Voter, or are you called Remainian Voters. I'm a Brexiteer that sounds so DAM COOL. Brexiteer wow that's cool
who voted out I'm not bothered either way what any of you young people think people start rebellions this is a way to start a Rebellion deal with it#drive by
Could anybody who happens to read this explain something to me? Why is it such a big taboo to say Democracy doesn't work? Or heck, let's take it one step further: for a person to say they want a better system? Isn't the point of the Freedom of Speech that you should be allowed to argue for *anything*? And *especially* the things that are uncomfortable to most people? Speech that (almost) everybody agrees with doesn't need to be protected. It's the fringe voices that do. Not that I'm saying there shouldn't be a (very, very small) limit on the Freedom of Speech, mind you. But that is only because any type of Freedom, as paradoxical as it sounds, only works if it's being limited. But back to Democracy. I personally think it's heavily flawed. There is very little indication that "the People" actually have sufficient knowledge to be able to make informed estimates as to how their decisions regarding political matters will *actually* affect their lives. That is why we invented the *Representative* Democracy in the first place. We choose people that *represent* us (or at least they are supposed to) and that have the *expertise* to make the decisions that we, ourselves, are ill-equipped to make. Not that a Representative Democracy is much better than a Direct one, of course. There is a reason why politicians always turn out to be lying, manipulative bastards (bastards, in this context, is to be taken as a gender neutral term. Although, generally speaking, I have a feeling that women in politics tend to rate *slightly* better in this regard -- but that's beside the point). And it's *not* because "those in power" are inherently corrupt and transferring the vote to "the Demos" would magically make everything better. See my last paragraph for that. It's because a Representative Democracy is not about actual issues facing the population and about how to best resolve those -- instead, it's a *Popularity Contest*. And pretty much anyone who remembers High School knows that Popularity Contests are always won by lying, manipulative bastards So, again, the question: why isn't Josh, or anyone else for that matter, allowed to opine that Democracy doesn't work as intended?
There is no ideal political process, they each have flaws and can be corrupted. The problem with Democracy is it's open to go in unfavourable directions and those who are elected aren't immune to bribery or other forms of corruption. The other end of the spectrum is a Dictatorship which works great if you have a great person in charge, but obviously can go terribly if you don't have a great person in charge. The term (democracy doesn't work) is just taken from a debating format where you point out flaws from one side and ignore the alternatives or flaws from the other side.
Unfavorable directions? Compare the unfavorable directions of democracies to that of dictatorships. I cant believe people are actually considering a Dictatorship over a democracy. The old may have swung the referendum, but their parents are turning in their graves.
L EM From your comments, I take it that you think that History, as found in the History Books, shows that Democracy is wildly favorable over any possible alternative. I'd say that is debatable -- especially considering there are probably loads of Governmental Models (if that is the right term) that simply haven't been invented yet, and therefore wouldn't show up in the History Books -- but OK, let's assume for a moment, for the sake of argument, that this is true. That *still* doesn't explain why people aren't even allowed to *argue* against Democracy. An argument for "Democracy is the best, or at least the least bad, Model of Government" is in no way, shape or form an argument for "Democracy as a Model of Government is prohibited from ever being debated". The two simply have nothing to do with one another. So, please: stop trying to argue for why Democracy is so great, and instead come up with an argument for why you think it shouldn't even be *debated*.
52%felt left out,not some,the majority.should donald trump win,maybe he'll put britian on the front burner for trade because, this vote proved just how shaky the EU really is.
I never voted for Nigel Farage I never voted for Boris I never wanted her friggin hell the EU in the first place because I wasn't born when it happened so go sort yourself out
Adam Hills is ignorant and incredibly sanctimonious, nauseatingly so. If he is indeed a comedian, it would be appropriate to see him being funny, as opposed to him spewing the liberal left agenda (pro-feminism, pro-homosexuality, pro-social / ethnic minorities) via lazy political/social commentary, and then begging for laughs. He recently prompted the audience to applaud when they were initially not forthcoming. Dear oh dear.
This is hilarious. I never thought there would be such an easy way for Scottish Independence, Irish Unification and the return of Gibraltar to Spain all at once. Like it!
60% of 5 million people isn't much, and seeing as 44% voted leave so that means even though 60 odd % of those 60% of scots that voted, voted remain, doesn't mean every single one of those 5 million Scots want out of the Union. Especially since 55% voted no to independance two years go, which the SNP said would be 'a once in a lifetime vote'. They're obviously going back on their word. Not only that, but oil prices have gone down which would have been Scotlands only true trading source in the North Sea, but realisticly we would have owned it. Scotlands GDP, along with its tiny arse population and few trading resources would be a shitty country, especially in contrast to England which has always been the centre of strength and power on this little island.
GameBros Ⓡ I heard that support is getting iffy for the SNP in Scotland. They don't even have a majority anymore. Besides, their reason for independance may be gone come November - Parliament (The House of Commons and House of Lords) may very well block brexit due to the economic and political damage it's caused. Tbh all they're waiting for is another war in the middle east.
What are you talking about? England is going to be the labradoodle of the US, not EU, EU is doing it's own thing, England is soon going to be "a part" of the US, they wish. They will just be the US' towel to wipe of the cum of their penis. This whole thing is so sad, but only the rational minded people see it. Everything the brexit defenders say "it's a democracy, the people voted!" yeah nice, when 51% of all people in UK voted to become suicide bombers, would the others go "all right, the people voted, let's get going!" ... lol
I voted leave, i'm not racist. My vote had nothing to do with immigration. Nothing will change with immigration, look at the interviews with Leavers, and it was very clear that when we arrange new trade deals with the EU, that freedom of movement will continue. There are a lot of other benefits to leaving. We're in a dark phase right now, but we will come out better.
"Reunite" is a bit intellectually dishonest when speaking of Ireland. The only time it was united was under British rule. Before that there were several kingdoms on the island.
"Demoocracy is the will of people" yet its around about 50/50 split. There is no significant majority to make the vote fair. There was large remain majority in London, Scotland and N. Ireland. The petition calls for a referendum to be held and a change can only happen if there is a majoirty of 60 % voting either way, remain or leave and a turnout of 75 %.
+Jay Damnstraight We both know this is a baseless salty perspective on your part, you are free to move to Europe you know, then you can have your life decided by overpaid neoliberal fat cats, who's stopping you?
Yes I do Captain, they are Neo-Liberal I'm embarrassing to be British, that's a Remainic Voter, or are you called Remainian Voters. I'm a Brexiteer that sounds so DAM COOL. Brexiteer wow that's cool
There you go, everyone cheered the line "Democracy doesn't work." You wonder why the rest of Britain didn't vote like London, with that attitude.
He was joking! He said straight away he was joking
Johnny Mac I know HE was joking, the audience wasn't.
Dylan Greene Yes they did. Listen and you'll hear laughter before they clap
They understood it was a joke, so they clapped for the joke as a joke. Brexit was stupid people and old people who were not smart enough to realise the severity of this referendum.
Sofia Smith Please, I hear half a dozen laughs at most. Of course people who can't vote for a head of the Commission would clap having their democratic right taken away. It's what they voted for.
Ahaha "democracy doesn't work " audience starts clapping. Following a comment about sheeple following celebrities 😂😭 says it all
Quit trolling - he said straight away that he was kidding. It's a comedy programme FFS
He was joking yes but the audience wasn't they were actually agreeing with him, As he immediately had to say "I was joking!"
Wouldn’t expect anything else especially from channel 4 LOL
LOL people actually clapped after josh joked he doesnt like democracy
To be fair, while it is certainly the best solution we have, its not exactly perfect.
Vincent Freel but the point is it shows that some of these young remainers only care about democracy when it goes their way
CfCFan99 Does it, though? How does some clapping prove that?
Vincent Freel its not just the clapping, the way some remainers are responding to the referendum result show they dont like democracy. The fact they want another referendum proves this
CfCFan99 The second referendum is specifically for people that have changed their mind and comes under the priviso that remain needs 60% to win this time. I think that's perfectly acceptable. Quite frankly I'd say anyone that opposes that is more likely to be against democracy than someone that is in favour.
"Democracy doesn't work because it didn't get the result I wanted!"
Didn't you hear Josh saying straight afterwards that he was joking? For fuck's sake...
ive not had the result ive wanted in 30 years part from now
ashastings92 The Last Leg is a COMEDIC show that has been going for 4 years and Josh is a very sarcastic comedian. Do you seriously think the audience didn't realise he was taking the mick?
+Johnny Mac you give too much credit for a Remain audience to have the mental capacity to understand sarcasm.
DID YOU NOT HEAR MURMURS OF LAUGHTER AFTER HE MADE THE JOKE?
I'm just sad that Nigel Farage is happy
you need to get a grip, its Blackmonday tomorrow, expect Osborne, as pale as Boris, papers in hand
The reason were are divided is because a minority of politicians (1/100000) have pursued a policy of joining the UK to a united states of Europe when we did not want them to.
This is the epitome of dumbed down TV, I think I lost a few million brain cells listening to this drivel.
You think these cunts are having a 'well reasoned' discussion? They're just comedians and thats a very generous description.
I wish everyone who voted remain were as empathetic and as understanding as Alex. The only thing that has shocked me about this referendum is the immaturity and petulance of the losing side - the majority have completely embarrassed themselves.
This isn't about a losing side, this is about people's lives, so you can't expect them not to react negatively to something that is devastating to our country!
'devastating' - please stop with this divisive, fear mongering, hysterical rhetoric. It's a great decision for our country as a whole and anyone who knew the first thing about the EU and the frameworks it operates within would agree. I'm now sick and tired of hearing these selfish remain procrastinators crying and making threats.
+Moo - Arrogant condescension, hmmm that'll make me take you seriously. The EEC was the model the British people voted to join, that has morphed into a union that has greater and greater political and law making powers and now incorporates states that are just not compatible with us culturally or economically. The tariffs and frameworks the EU imposes on certain industries are crippling in a competitive world market. European nations exist fine outside the EU, in fact they flourish. Finally, it's baffling to me that people are so ready to disregard their national sovereignty and self determination that previous generations spilled blood to maintain, how can they be this stupid?
KatchouroBlade All economists said remain, people who were more educated said remain, young people said remain ( who are more open minded), the prime minister said remain. Boris, Farage and Gove said leave as well as the most uneducated areas and Trump. This is devastating considering we have no plan, no prime minister and no opposition party now.
+Sofia Smith Your comment just proved how stupid and ridiculous you are. If you can only be fed information from 'experts' and not find out for yourself, then clearly you are the 'uneducated' one. Get off your high horse! Tell me. Since I'm a young person and I wanted to leave, yet I study politics, am I still uneducated? There have been many 'experts' who have wanted to leave, but the biased media hasn't talked about those. People like you should be ashamed of the way you have just thrown insults and labelled people 'uneducated' simply because people didn't vote the way you did.
Well said Alex! now is not the time to hate but the time to be more united than ever and make sure now that the people who lead us are not dicks and actually represent the people
Sorry but we are getting boris Johnson
+Queek headtaker exactly, ww3 is coming
UNITED?! this whole fucking thing was about being independant, now scotland, N. Ireland, wales will leave the UK to stay in the EU, so we've gone from the UNITED kingdom to the DIVIDED kingdom. GREAT
I'm Welsh and we ain't leaving any time soon! we can't afford to
+Aled Davies neither can Cornwall but they still want to declare independence
“Democracy doesn’t work” crowd breaks into applause
You know we've done the bad thing when Donald trump says we did the right thing
You know we've done the right thing when Tony Blair says we've done the wrong thing
Thank you Alex for being reasonable and thoughtful in your response.
the £ crashed after city bankers gambled £20million on a remain victory, and while it crashed the euro did worse. make of that what you will. and Scotland may leave the UK... the SNP wanted to leave years ago, that's nothing new. irish nationalists want to unify Ireland, also nothing new. Cameron resigned purely of his own volition. this show is very biased. I thought one of the biggest things to come out of the results was how badly the labour party are doing, and how much they have lost touch with their electorate. if it had been possible to keep all our trading terms, but retain full political powers and cap migration levels, we wouldn't have left. but despite 4 years of effort, the EU was unwilling to reform, despite us being the 2nd biggest contributor in monetary terms. and of the few concessions we did get, only capping the amount of child benefit abroad had any tangible figures attached to it, and otherwise a few wishy-washy "assurances" with no real backing or legislation. Cameron agrees the EU has many short-comings, but we should be at the table to help make those reforms. i would agree, but after 4 years of trying it obviously is not working. unfortunately we have had to leave the EU, and now that we have maybe the EU will stand up, take notice, and make those reforms. although I doubt we will be the only country to leave now
***** which bits do you think are wrong? i'm surprised you say the pound will crash further as on the Friday it actually rallied back up. markets are fickle, the pound rose on the week because the city was so confident in a remain win based on yougov polls. wake me up when hit 1:1 with the dollar
+theycallmejpj I have a masters and PhD from a top 0.999 university and I agree with Arrow. You voted leave because your racist.
+Alover OfLove ..That's "you're racist"...A PhD, really? Where did you get it, at Trump University?
+Jack Quinn it's called sarcasm get with shitlord!
Only think i can say against that is, politics takes a lot of time. Saying people are giving up after 4 years of trying is pretty shitty really. Big changes often take YEARS to implement or even begin thinking about. I don't see why you would expect now to be any different!
You can call them racist anymore, you.have to call them 'disenfranchised'. Political correctness gone mad.
"everyone who disagrees with me is a racist" - lefties
+ Turtles that's the faux left. The real left voted Leave to protect their communities and jobs from the excesses of globalism, big government and uncontrolled irresponsible immigration.
+Turtles not everyone that voted to leave is racist but every racist voted to leave.
+slarti prove it
+slarti bartfast racists voted remain so white people can immigrate to the UK from Poland and Romania and keep out brown people from Asia and Africa
That was surprisingly balanced. Really refreshing to hear.
Alex is the brain of the show.
Absolutely. He said the only thing worth listening to on the whole show.
I got to hand it to him.
Mortalfarmer Lol!
the brain ``cell`` of the show.
True, but heres the thing about democracy, uneducated votes and racist votes count. From what i've been gathering, majority of the "LEAVE" votes came from closed minded, racist and uneducated individuals. Some that did vote LEAVE did actually have reasons to do so that are valid, but i think that if more people educated themselves before voting, the votes would have been dramatically different.
Oh and how did you work that out? and if you knew the advantages of leaving then why did you not vote so? The People have Spoken! Respect our democratic right to rule our selves and control our own nation! we have taken back control and Independance is everything... no more will a forign entity tell us what to do! The people will it! It amazes me that people would want to remain when we was just a sinking ship basically.. with all the wrong holes sinking us, now those holes will be fixed, and our nation shall set sail, Full speed ahead, for better or worse we will pull through it as a nation and come to a better place at the other side... Countrymen now lets make this work, and introduce what is rightfully our right to introduce as a soverign nation!
+Non Stop Spartan Lad is right vote leave won because those who voted for them are all racist and retarded. Only the intellectual and refined voted to remain. We believe in democracy and that's why we have petitioned for another referendum and will continue to do so until we get the result we want which is to remain. That is TRUE democracy. If anything democracy is not allowing people the chance to vote. It is to make the decisions for them.
Yes I am a working class white man who voted LEAVE to stop other working class white men from other EU countries coming over here and "taking mah jawb!"... Oh wait, same ethnicity so how the fuck can it be racism?
Alover OfLove No he is wrong, as are YOU, and stop throwing that around, its getting old... the people who voted Leave came from all backgrounds believe it or not, even the familys of past immigrants can see that what is happening today is too much, and that having some other foreign entity tell us what to do as a nation is just wrong, and No you don't believe in true democracy, you just don't like the result you got.. we won deal with it... and who are YOU! to make decisions for the people, through out history it has always been the best way for the PEOPLE them selves to decide on what they will! people like you who think you can decide on our behalf when the majority are against it have always faced an Insurrection, its a good thing you are not in power... because there has been many a revolt against despotic rulers like you, accept the peoples decision to leave, do you think if it had been the will of the people to remain? id be kicking up a fuss like you, no id accept it, id be disappointed but I would not be going against a democratic decision, then at least I could say when things continued to go wrong, I told you so, people will always want sovereignty and you cant take that away from them.
Oh of course. Clearly remain was the educated choice. Although I voted leave I'm clearly so much lower and uneducated to you. Despite the fact that I study politics.
I must say though you will be very red faced if this country prospers and thrives outside of the EU.
Get off your fucking high horse! Education does not give common sense! I have no more words for people like you who think they are so much better because they chose to remain. Its only been a few days since the referendum and already people are saying its an economic crisis. We haven't even left the EU yet! It takes 2 years to leave it! So rather than saying one choice is right and the other is wrong, wait and see what happens! And being educated doesn't stop you from sounding like a brainless and uninformed twat.
Left wing echo chamber in full effect. Imagine being trapped in it.
"Democracy doesn't work!"
I think what he means is that having the entire population decide on some really important matter isn't always the wisest way to go. He doesn't mean "it doesn't work because it didn't get the results I wanted", it simply means that certain results are not ideal, but the population might opt to go for the less desirable choice. Obviously, in his views, leaving the E.U. was not ideal, and so according to him, that's the bad choice to make. It's a risk they took when leaving it up to the public. Big things like this should not be left in the hands of random people, many of whom may lack the required information, knowledge and insight to even make that decision. It's kinda like asking a class full of 6 year olds what they want to eat; candy or carrots. Many of them will probably go for the candy, because that sounds way better, even though having the carrots is healthier for them. They don't know, they don't care, they want the candy. So we let adults decide for them, because that's better for them. And let's be realistic, you can hardly argue that this referendum is the most democratic way to go.. well, maybe it is, but there are many, many decisions that a few make for all the others. This happens all the time. Other topics aren't voted on by the population, so where's the democracy there? Why have the public decide this particular matter and not all others? So saying that maybe this should not be left up to the people, that isn't saying that they can't decide for themselves, or maybe it is.. but the point is; this is very selective democracy, and the topic selected for the public to decide on is a rather important one. So maybe not the smartest thing. Democracy in that sense can fail to bring about the most desirable outcome, as is seen with this Brexit example. Perhaps have it as a criterion that whatever option is decided upon, at least 66% of the voters should have opted to either leave or stay. This was much closer I believe, basically cutting the population in two equally big parts, which causes this weird internal division. Hence the statement about it no longer being a united Kingdom. It's like having a hall filled with a thousand people, and you then let them democratically decide what they're going to be drinking. They can either have milk, or water. 499 people could be lactose intollerant, so all of them want the water, but the 501 want milk. So they get the milk, but 499 of them are going to have a really bad evening. This vote on the Brexit however shows us how difficult it is for the politicians. If it was left up to the politicians, you'd still have around 50% of the population hating on whatever decision they would have made. So regardless of what they would have chosen, half of the country would still have hated their guts for whatever choice they would have made. Problematic scenario indeed. Whatever they would decide on, it would never be seen as a good thing, not by the population, collectively. So it's almost as if the politicians went: "You know what, let them decide, then they can fight and hate eachother, and we won't have to deal with it." I don't think that's the intention at all, but it's a cute conspiracy theory nonetheless.
I voted Remain in the referendum (*hides quickly*). I was 18 and it was the first time I'd been able to vote in any sort of political vote. Before I voted, though, I researched what was happening and came to a conclusion I thought was best. I know a lot of people in my age bracket did the same. It was their first public vote and they didn't want to seem stupid. Very few had strong connections to a political party so they weren't influenced by what that party was saying.
..but you had been indoctrinated at school.
The main problem with your generation of voters, they never seen what it was like before ted heath scammed the UK into the eec. You have only ever know us as part of the eec/eu. I was only 7 years old in the 1975 leave or remain vote, so my entire adult life I was denied any direct say on the eec/eu involvement. My generation has wanted a say for 41 years. I was staunch labour until toxic tony came along and ruined the Nation beyond recognition,
Brilliant summary of Friday Adam.
See, the part focusing on the section of people whose lives are already shit is what needs to be said. Same with US and the election. Hillary's big support came from cities like new york and los angeles, the most populated. People in those cities have great lives and are open to many jobs. The rest of the US has been dealing with alot of shit they hate and reacted as such. They wanted change.
The referendum took place, the ballot cast, the result should be respected. This is democracy. Believers in Remain should have worked harder to get their voters out. I hear a lot of students complaining about the result but voting on Facebook isn't good enough. Student turnout was low.
It was an age thing. Those under 50 wanted to remian and those over 50 wanted to leave. Those who don't have so long to live with the consiquences won the referendum but hey that's democracy for you
One could argue that 50+ aged people have paid more into the system and should have more say over their country.
Deltaexio
But a large number of those will not have to suffer the consiquences (statistically thousands of the older voters will be dead before we even change PM never mind leave the EU). I suppose one could argue those better educated should have more say, or those who make more money for the economy should have more of a say
What Kind Of Society Are We?
Since voting to leave the European Union I have been very disappointed with the amount of people who voted to remain, in particular young people, saying they feel ashamed. Based on the fact that they believe everyone who voted to leave did so because of immigration, even though this isn’t true.
However I would like to add support to those who voted to leave because of immigration in a sensible manner unlike the sensationalist propaganda thrown at us by both sides in the lead up to the referendum.
Immigration is essential to any successful economy but as with anything that is successful it has to be controlled and it has to be managed. It is not about colour, it is not about what language you speak, it is not about what country you are from and it is not about religion. It is about numbers. I would ask all those who feel ashamed to think of HHE. I have many friends and acquaintances that have come here from foreign countries and I have the same respect for them as my British friends and colleagues. However the fact is that the number of people wishing, trying and succeeding in coming here is far greater than our infrastructure can cope with. This has put unsustainable demand on our HHE.
Health: Our Health service is buckling. Stress and moral amongst its multi-cultural workforce is at rock bottom as we struggle to cope with the sheer volume of people who need care. There are many reports that the strain is leading to highly skilled doctors, nurses and surgeons, some who have come from abroad now looking for positions outside of the UK. If we cannot provide adequate care to our citizens no matter where they were originally born then what kind of society are we.
Housing: We are experiencing housing shortage on a scale that I never thought to see in my lifetime. This has led to a market where young people have little hope of ever owning their own homes while at the same time financially crippling them with rents that are nothing shy of daylight robbery. If we can`t offer our citizens the safety and security of their own home then what kind of society are we.
Education: Every successful, peaceful and rewarding society needs a good education system. Our classrooms are packed to the rafters, often with children from many different countries who do not speak English as their first language but we don’t train our teachers to be multilingual. As with the health service this is driving some very skilled and educated people away from teaching. If we can’t offer our citizens a good education then what kind of society are we.
+Sam Jay Most of the teachers (especially Economics and Politics teachers) at my college said that they voted out. Of which all of them said that the EU needed reform
Procrastinator Adrian
the EU does need reform, this is obvious. But that doesn't mean leaving is correct. It's interesting teachers where you are want to leave as most teachers at the school I used to go to wanted to stay and all of my university lecturers wanted to stay. That's an interesting contrast
I love these people who are annoyed with the “Democracy doesn’t work part” and saying it’s because they lost. Well, it’s not like Leavers wouldn’t have done the same thing. Garage was already complaining BEFORE THE RESULTS CAME IN when he thought Remain would win, but swiftly changed his tone afterwards. Convenient until it isn’t.
Complaing about conMoron changing the voting rules allowing extra time trying to get 2 million more students to register. 41 years it took them to ``allow`` the UK a direct say. the eu democracy doesn't work because the eu is anti democratic.
I voted for In AND Out. That night I got a delicious double double with animal style fries.
Adam Thank you.
I voted out and proud, most of london voted remain because most of the capital are immigrants
The Pound is on the same levels as it was in Feb. The FTSE is at its best all week.
The leave vote hurts the Euro the most, that gives us leverage over them. This means we can get the deal we want. Ghana have already approached us for a deal within a few hours, Australia's PM has said he is interested in trading. All of the Commonwealth, particularly Africa is interested in trade.
As long as the Tories dont fuck it up there are very good and prosperous times ahead.
Yes but the sterling to the dollar is significantly lower however.
Beta Fascist It will go back after a few months. The Euro suffered far worse than the Pound, goes to show how desperate they were for us to stay, we now have a massive advantage over them for a trade agreement.
kingmatt2563 this is being portrayed as extremely damaging and we are yet to see the extent of the damage the devaluation of the pound will have.
Beta Fascist True indeed. However one thing we should worry about is the 250 billion Pound injection the Bank of England will pump into the economy. That will have long term problems for the economy in the future and I bet you the media will blame it on Brexit.
kingmatt2563 why is that problematic?
I'm surprised this is still on RUclips.
I'm not one for gloating, but when you sit in front of TV cameras and smugly suggest that democracy has gone wrong, then 2 months later it looks as though democracy didn't go wrong after all, in fact, it made things BETTER for society, you deserve all the contempt you could possibly soak up as a self-righteous human being.
only reason I want a second retake is because of the thing about the NHS lie but if it's still leave then ok bro.
It wasn't much of a lie.
+Winter Frosty they said they could spend it on the nhs, and yet still could. All Farage said was that they wouldn't necessarily spend it all on the nhs, but that there will be that much money to spend on whatever we want.
+Winter Frosty stop repeating what the media's saying, do the research yourself. like the decision or not but #outmeansout
And the EU very graciously gives a proportion of it back. Not quietly as all the big signs will demonstrate. But the buggers keep the rest to give to their mates and buy holiday homes in Barbados. If Croatia wants motorways, let Croatia pay for them. We did for ours!
+username8756 no need to insult pls this conversation is the most friendliest one that is close to an argument :p
So so so relieved the last leg didn't go off on a rant to all Brexiters.
16 million voted REMAIN. 17.5 million voted LEAVE
dont watch this show but I know the general direction of the panel/show but I'm surprised of how mature and balanced this reaction was.
Josh says "Democracy doesn't work" and everyone applauds. Even though he was only joking, isn't it amazing how many people hate democracy?And what's Adam the Australian citizen talking about.. Who's he getting Angry with? Why in a democracy would someone get angry with people who have a different view to them? That doesn't sound like he or the audience are very democratic, it sounds like they want to dictate to people who they deem to be less intelligent as them, and call people with different views hateful names and get angry with them. Sounds a bit like bullying, sounds a lot like a dictatorship is what they want and I'm not sure that's a good thing.... Oh and it was really 52% not 51%...He's right though, people have been using food banks for the past few years. 0 hour contracts etc.... And all this has happened inside the EU, so people have thought it can't be any worse to bring about a change. And 2 weeks on, Australia, New Zealand, China and now the USA all want to have free trade deals with us. The markets are raising above pre Brexit levels, the £ started to make a come back. Students might have to get a visa to live and work in other EU countries. Which may take them about 2 hours so stop being lazy.Oh and by the way can people stop confusing Europe with the EU! Europe is 51 countries and the EU is 28 countries. So we still are and will always be in Europe,
It's funny because none of it happened in the end.
Imagine if leaders from outside your own country made laws and rules in which you had no choice but to abide? Would you not do the same? Our economy has and will continue to take a battering, but this is only short term. Britain will grown and thrive once again.
the result was 51% to 49% how is that fair? it's only half of the people! referenda should be held with a majority at 70%
That doesn't make sense. It was 52% of 72%, which is still only about 75% of the whole population
I agree, big changes like this should require more of a margin to be brought into action
So by that logic, the referendum in 1975 was invalid too? So we never should have joined in the first place, excellent!
Most of the people in London didn't vote to remain, the majority however did! It was approximately 60% Remain and 40% leave, the opposite to most of the other areas of England and Wales.
"couldn't get any worse" haha that hasn't aged well. Writing this comment from covid-19 lockdown
I wonder how you've managed to concoct a series of events in your mind to blame the pandemic on the referendum.
@@CrashSable I wonder how you've managed to concoct a series of events in your mind where I somehow implied the pandemic was caused by Brexit.
Here's why the referendum was a bad idea
If you have a kid you can't give them what they want all the time
You're the smarter adult and know best
We have these intelligent professionals in power who are better suited for the choices
You say that like there wasn't any intelligent people voting out. People voted out for their own reasons, there were people who have fought for our country voting out, doctors, buisness owners, xenophobes, right wingers, left wingers, those who sit on the fence, those who had no clue, those who were clued up to the eye balls and know everything there is to know about the EU. Same for remain, people vote out of their own interests, what benefits them. These intelligent professionals in power could do what parents do and ignore the children who demand icecream before bed. But they can't cause the people aren't children, and those in charge are out of touch idiots who have millions stashed away in an off shore account. We were fucked either way.
so you want a dictatorship..... see if north Korea are accepting any migrants and go there
politics is an opinion on how to distribute wealth not a scienceOf course you want a professional doctor but if I am in a restaurant and order the pork and Jamie oliver says he;s an expert and I should have ordered the chicken, I will say fuck off I hate chicken
I'm a hater of the last leg but even i'll say fair play to that. Happy to be out
I don't believe that voting to leave makes me a racist. I believe the remain voters who were happy to see an extremely high inflow of foreigners in to eventually make the British races extinct are racist. We all have our own opinions
Except leaving the EU has done nothing but hinder our ability to stop the flow of other nationals, we'll need to sign up to freedom of movement to have access to the EU market, only this time we'll have zero say in EU laws.
Voting to leave might not make you a racist, but it makes you shortsighted and highly misinformed.
Sorry to say this, but considering the history of the British Isles, high influxes of foreigners changing the country is pretty standard for us. In fact, it's arguably overdue for happening again. I don't see why anyone would, though, all we have is marshlands, shoddy workmanship, barely edible food and 15-minute celebrities.
white britons can trace their ancestry back to these islands for thousands of years, try again. just because the normans invaded doesn't mean we want to be invaded again, derp.
***** And they can also be traced all across Europe. Ancestry isn't a straight line. Besides, it wasn't just the Normans, it was also the Angles, Saxons, Vikings and Romans, in no particular order. There may be others that I've forgotten, but these five were the most influential. People just love invading the British Isles.
Sensia v7.03
This is our ancestral homeland not the rest of the worlds. End of. I bet you wouldn't deny the the maoris are an indigenous peoples. Leftists are able to grasp why Palestianisn or Tibetans, you know basically anyone not white fight against being culturally, politically & demographically dispossessed in their homelands, but can't seem to afford that same understanding for Europeans. Why? You are an anti white, plain and simple.
"There won't be any immediate changes"
* shows them the first 30 seconds of this video *
Fuck it. Lets split the UK into the four Hogwarts Houses.
Hufflepuff to unite the nation.
Farage for leader of Gryffindor! He needs a new job now! XD
Oh, so the people in London are the 'smart' ones... I won't be out of a job because of Brexit (engineer) but I can guarantee most Londoners in the finance sector will be looking for work. I'll enjoy my 'dumb' 100k p/a pay cheque while you geniuses look for your next income. Well done, indeed.
Theres always something missing on this programme, i just can’t put my finger on it
that was a pretty good speech, but to answer some of the questions here in the comment, most people assume it was a protest vote because of the geography of the vote, places that were more developed, like cities and high-end towns voted remain in a greater margin than they voted leave, areas where i live, like the south west, North wales, and Northern England mainly voted leave of a huge dissatisfaction with the government, there are videos of people who voted leave explaining this on RUclips. next one, you are right to point out the whole "democracy doesn't work because i didn't get the result i wanted" thing, but honestly tell us you would have backed down if the nation voted remain, in this country there's a law stating even after a referendum of election, a political party/group can continue to protest their point, and considering the mass division of the electorate, a second referendum could have helped to stabilize the country further, or divide it further, but either way, we'd have a clearer image of what'll happen next, and how to approach it. last one, please don't get too toxic, this is a very divisive topic, and the last leg has been pretty balanced on their view in this video, it's just an opinion after all, we don't need to get so violent about it, just calm yourself.
Yes I do Captain, they are Neo-Liberal I'm embarrassing to be British, that's a Remainic Voter, or are you called Remainian Voters. I'm a Brexiteer that sounds so DAM COOL. Brexiteer wow that's cool
who voted out I'm not bothered either way what any of you young people think people start rebellions this is a way to start a Rebellion deal with it#drive by
Could anybody who happens to read this explain something to me? Why is it such a big taboo to say Democracy doesn't work? Or heck, let's take it one step further: for a person to say they want a better system? Isn't the point of the Freedom of Speech that you should be allowed to argue for *anything*? And *especially* the things that are uncomfortable to most people? Speech that (almost) everybody agrees with doesn't need to be protected. It's the fringe voices that do.
Not that I'm saying there shouldn't be a (very, very small) limit on the Freedom of Speech, mind you. But that is only because any type of Freedom, as paradoxical as it sounds, only works if it's being limited.
But back to Democracy. I personally think it's heavily flawed. There is very little indication that "the People" actually have sufficient knowledge to be able to make informed estimates as to how their decisions regarding political matters will *actually* affect their lives. That is why we invented the *Representative* Democracy in the first place. We choose people that *represent* us (or at least they are supposed to) and that have the *expertise* to make the decisions that we, ourselves, are ill-equipped to make.
Not that a Representative Democracy is much better than a Direct one, of course. There is a reason why politicians always turn out to be lying, manipulative bastards (bastards, in this context, is to be taken as a gender neutral term. Although, generally speaking, I have a feeling that women in politics tend to rate *slightly* better in this regard -- but that's beside the point). And it's *not* because "those in power" are inherently corrupt and transferring the vote to "the Demos" would magically make everything better. See my last paragraph for that. It's because a Representative Democracy is not about actual issues facing the population and about how to best resolve those -- instead, it's a *Popularity Contest*. And pretty much anyone who remembers High School knows that Popularity Contests are always won by lying, manipulative bastards
So, again, the question: why isn't Josh, or anyone else for that matter, allowed to opine that Democracy doesn't work as intended?
Open a history book buddy.
There is no ideal political process, they each have flaws and can be corrupted. The problem with Democracy is it's open to go in unfavourable directions and those who are elected aren't immune to bribery or other forms of corruption. The other end of the spectrum is a Dictatorship which works great if you have a great person in charge, but obviously can go terribly if you don't have a great person in charge. The term (democracy doesn't work) is just taken from a debating format where you point out flaws from one side and ignore the alternatives or flaws from the other side.
Unfavorable directions? Compare the unfavorable directions of democracies to that of dictatorships.
I cant believe people are actually considering a Dictatorship over a democracy. The old may have swung the referendum, but their parents are turning in their graves.
L EM
From your comments, I take it that you think that History, as found in the History Books, shows that Democracy is wildly favorable over any possible alternative. I'd say that is debatable -- especially considering there are probably loads of Governmental Models (if that is the right term) that simply haven't been invented yet, and therefore wouldn't show up in the History Books -- but OK, let's assume for a moment, for the sake of argument, that this is true.
That *still* doesn't explain why people aren't even allowed to *argue* against Democracy. An argument for "Democracy is the best, or at least the least bad, Model of Government" is in no way, shape or form an argument for "Democracy as a Model of Government is prohibited from ever being debated". The two simply have nothing to do with one another.
So, please: stop trying to argue for why Democracy is so great, and instead come up with an argument for why you think it shouldn't even be *debated*.
I agree with you totally, but can someone please describe a better system than democracy.
I'm a Brexiteer, what a COOL NAME. Remainic or Remainian, what a GAY NAME
He's right!
This a great year, we're out because of democracy. Democracy is the majority not you!
**Votes to leave the European UNION** 'What we need now is a bit of UNITY'. You're not getting this 'Unity' concept in Britain, are you?
fair
FUCKING PROGRAM SHOULD BE CALLED THE LEFT LEG
When stuff's too serious, take the piss and have a laugh. It's one of those British idiosyncrasies. Rock on, Josh.
Democracy is the best political system.
52%felt left out,not some,the majority.should donald trump win,maybe he'll put britian on the front burner for trade because, this vote proved just how shaky the EU really is.
I never voted for Nigel Farage I never voted for Boris I never wanted her friggin hell the EU in the first place because I wasn't born when it happened so go sort yourself out
is it bad I didn't really care much until he said Harry Styles then I yelled "WHAT".
no one who watches The Last Leg voted out
see FARAGE is Back!!! First EU Parliament speech since BREXIT
Adam Hills is ignorant and incredibly sanctimonious, nauseatingly so. If he is indeed a comedian, it would be appropriate to see him being funny, as opposed to him spewing the liberal left agenda (pro-feminism, pro-homosexuality, pro-social / ethnic minorities) via lazy political/social commentary, and then begging for laughs. He recently prompted the audience to applaud when they were initially not forthcoming. Dear oh dear.
channel 4. what do you expect?
Channel 4 is owned by the public
not owned by th epublic but has free use of public owned infrastructure
Rule Britannia
Britannia rule the local pool
Britons never shall agree like France
Stay free Britain
so far so good ;😘
This is hilarious. I never thought there would be such an easy way for Scottish Independence, Irish Unification and the return of Gibraltar to Spain all at once. Like it!
Still waiting. 😂
Hows Scotland doing with their independence? lol
Have some respect for your public
But they have done the right thing
But it can and will get worse
Don't watch any show that has a laugh track.
Never seen this show. Glad I haven't - it looks a bit dreary.
why are these people don't want Scottish People want their Independence? Scotland wants to separate UK for very long time.. Let them have it..!
They had a vote and 55% of scots voted remain. It was their choice you twat.
60% of 5 million people isn't much, and seeing as 44% voted leave so that means even though 60 odd % of those 60% of scots that voted, voted remain, doesn't mean every single one of those 5 million Scots want out of the Union. Especially since 55% voted no to independance two years go, which the SNP said would be 'a once in a lifetime vote'. They're obviously going back on their word. Not only that, but oil prices have gone down which would have been Scotlands only true trading source in the North Sea, but realisticly we would have owned it. Scotlands GDP, along with its tiny arse population and few trading resources would be a shitty country, especially in contrast to England which has always been the centre of strength and power on this little island.
Oh shut up...
Ryan Jennings
even if we remained in the EU the SNP would find an excuse for a second referendum. They're just whiny little bitches.
GameBros Ⓡ I heard that support is getting iffy for the SNP in Scotland. They don't even have a majority anymore. Besides, their reason for independance may be gone come November - Parliament (The House of Commons and House of Lords) may very well block brexit due to the economic and political damage it's caused. Tbh all they're waiting for is another war in the middle east.
what's this we bit Adam?
Ah man, you lost
Make the England great AGAIN!
Why do the leave people watch and post on youtube videos all day....because they haven't got a fucking job:)
Thats correct Emma, I agree, young neo-liberal should go to classes on how to be British
Britain = 51th state of USA?
What are you talking about? England is going to be the labradoodle of the US, not EU, EU is doing it's own thing, England is soon going to be "a part" of the US, they wish. They will just be the US' towel to wipe of the cum of their penis. This whole thing is so sad, but only the rational minded people see it. Everything the brexit defenders say "it's a democracy, the people voted!" yeah nice, when 51% of all people in UK voted to become suicide bombers, would the others go "all right, the people voted, let's get going!" ... lol
I agree with you!
Please no. I really don't want the Second Amendment in this country.
oh hell to the naw!, I seen his hand that shit scared me cuz
BREXITEER...COOL NAME
REMAINIAN...GAY NAME
REMAINIC...GAY NAME
magic+bigots from the EU or from britian?
What I have to say about those people who voted leave
Racists -_-
I voted leave, i'm not racist. My vote had nothing to do with immigration. Nothing will change with immigration, look at the interviews with Leavers, and it was very clear that when we arrange new trade deals with the EU, that freedom of movement will continue. There are a lot of other benefits to leaving. We're in a dark phase right now, but we will come out better.
ok
Listen mate, nice to hear your opinion, but that doesn't mean a lot of people didn't vote because of immigration.
The last leg mmmm🤔
Cry more lefties...cry more!
We fucked it
How have we?
"Reunite" is a bit intellectually dishonest when speaking of Ireland. The only time it was united was under British rule. Before that there were several kingdoms on the island.
2 years later it’s still a shit show 🙄
Every body sign the petition for a 2nd referendum! Nearly 1 million signatures!
Keep having referendums until you get the result you want. Were you in the audience that clapped when that guy said democracy doesn't work?
Democracy is the will of the people, you lost or is it only democracy when you get you're own way.
"Demoocracy is the will of people" yet its around about 50/50 split. There is no significant majority to make the vote fair. There was large remain majority in London, Scotland and N. Ireland. The petition calls for a referendum to be held and a change can only happen if there is a majoirty of 60 % voting either way, remain or leave and a turnout of 75 %.
+Jay Damnstraight We both know this is a baseless salty perspective on your part, you are free to move to Europe you know, then you can have your life decided by overpaid neoliberal fat cats, who's stopping you?
+Jay Damnstraight What if the result was the same, just have endless referendums till you get what you want?.
Loser woke types still crying today 😂
Communism?¿!¡
They got the turkeys to vote for christmas! 1 - 0 Illuminati, GG
yesterday there was a report that trump is now in favour of the EU. I think we should have all refused to vote
lies like farage?
GGGAAAAAH SCARY HANDS!!!!!!
Yes I do Captain, they are Neo-Liberal I'm embarrassing to be British, that's a Remainic Voter, or are you called Remainian Voters. I'm a Brexiteer that sounds so DAM COOL. Brexiteer wow that's cool