Thanks, another excellent video on the Boer war, just as fine as your other videos on this war that I have watched thus far (Magerfontein and Colenso - will be working through the rest of your Boer War videos as well). What I like about your videos is that, apart from your excellent story telling skills, you also present the historical facts as accurately as possible without taking sides - just sharing history as it happened. Keep up the great work!! Greetings from South Africa.
Thank you, very enjoyable. The first record of a "Kop" at an English football ground was at the Woolwich Arsenal's (now Arsenal FC) Manor Ground in 1904. Besides the famous example you describe, there are quite a few more Kops in English football grounds still in existence, including examples at Sheffield Wednesday's Hillsborough ground and St. Andrews, home of Birmingham City. Birmingham's Kop deserves a special mention as it's different to many others in that it runs down the length of the pitch (most are behind a goal), and it's probably the only one that's built on a rubbish tip ! In 1906 when the Blues moved to St Andrews, they needed an embankment to build the stand on. They came up with the novel idea of inviting local people to dump their rubbish on the site, and when it had settled down they built the stand on top of the rise using railway sleepers.
Arsenal aka the Didcot Wanderers are as you say a South London club not a North London club. Arsenals closest rivals must be either Millwall or Charlton not Tottenham
There was a spion Kop at Coventry’s old ground too - think it was a common name for steep terraces at a lot of football grounds. As for ‘Didcot’ I think they mean diddycoy which is a word for travellers
Brilliant video. There used to be a Spion Kop stadium in Warrington due to the South Lancashire regiment being based in the local barracks. There is also a statue in Warrington of Lieutenant-Colonel William MacCarthy O'Leary commanding offer of the South Lancashire regiment who was killed at Spion Kop.
I wrote an article on Kommandant Hendrik Prinsloo which includes aspects of his heroics at Spionkop for which he was gifted a special presentation Mauser rifle.
This is the second of your videos I watched, as you can see I am a newcomer, and I will say it again: You have a wonderful gift for story-telling. Everything becomes alive and the excellent little maps are a great help. I remember reading an article in a British military magazine nearly 25 years ago and the author was quite harsh with Revers Buller, a judgment with which I agree 100%. As the late (and great) Richard Holmes said: "He was a bad joke". Greetings from Buenos Aires!
Been lucky enough to stand on this battlefield. Zero cover. Must have been hell for the troops. Cemetery in my town is named Spion Kop. Great video as always. Love these
An excellent job describing the battle during the Boer War. The lessons were learned at great expense of many lives of British soldiers. Kudos to you 👏 🙌 👍 for another video on English history.
Chris , I have been studying this problem with the British leadership problem for well over 20 minutes now and I have come to the conclusion that England's problem is , England does not possess the type of leader to deal with such peoples as the Boer's , Zulus and that mess in Sudan . Tsk Tsk . We had Thomas " Stonewall " Jackson , George Patton & George Custer ! Men who were not afraid to Kill everyone in their command for the glory of the Regiment ! Custer & Jackson would have made a great WW2 Japanese Officers , You get to take your sword into combat and use the bayonet ! It is thanks to incredibly insane leaders like these that America is the way we are , free and insane ? Another great job Chris !
So true ! German officer observing British infantry walking into deadly German machinegun fire ,Silly officers ordering the men to keep in line and do not run , German described it ,as LIONS BEING LED BY DONKEYS . After we have witnessed Boris ,Truss & ,Sunak perform ,its understandable ,,
One of the properties my family owned in Bromyard was called Spion Kop - it seems a pretty common name used at the turn of the 20th Century - a bit like all the Alma Inns there still are in existence.
For some reason, I read somewhere that Churchill and Ghandi were in this battle. The Boers, dutch speaking farmers in the main, were armed with Mausers, and familiar with the ground they were defending.
Ghandi was at the drift or crossing on the Tugela. he did not get onto the Kop. Churchill would be at Mount Alice at the start of the battle and make it to the aid station on the spur. The second time would be with the order from Warren to say no retreat.
The remarkable difference between a brave competent Boer general and a British general who achieved his position through patronages and connections in the absence of ability… it’s no wonder that the British where soundly beaten. Sending troops who were not properly equipped with appropriate logistics was criminally negligent but inevitable the British spun the defeat and closed ranks to cover up the incredible incompetence of the various British officers and generals.
Hey Chris, when will you be doing a video on the Battle of Majuba Hill? The funny thing is, in both engagements, the British were driven from the hills with staggering losses, though really at Spion Kop, the British just withdrew at the end of the fight. Something I'd like to mention about Majuba Hill is that at the time of the battle, the British commander, Sir George Colley, was a major general, and was in command of a force of 400 officers and men. I know it was because of reduction from previous battles, but it is still odd.
The Boers had three things in their favour; General Louis Botha, Commandant Prinsloo of the Carolina Commando and the excellent handling by their five field guns and two 37mm Pom-poms.
Hi Nicolaas, you may be interested in my article on Kommandant Hendrik Prisnsloo and his presentation Mauser rifle. Google: Richard Henry. Ditsong, Hendrik Prinsloo and his presentation rifle. A South African now living in Sweden.
Your narrative is splendid you have done a great job. I have visited the battle site and it is a very confusing terrain in that the hills are all about and it took me some time to work it out. The one thing which really messed my thinking was the distance the trenches were from the crest. The Boers could almost in places have shaken hands with a British soldier. This meant the Brits had no chance as they the most exposed. Talk about fumbling about in the dark. The Boers were practically invited to enfiiade the trench you show with the bodies.
Great video. I own myself a sword belonging to an infantry officer who was at spion kop. It would be great if you could do maybe on the Indian mutiny or the battle of saragahi in 1898! Cheers!
@@TheHistoryChap i think so wanted your expert knowledge, but I checked and it was named after Sir Harry Smith's Spanish wife Juana María de los Dolores de León Smith
I always understood Ladysmith (and its Cape Province "sister" town, Ladismith) to have been named after the wife of Sir Harry Smith (governor of the Cape Colony among other postings). There's a bit about Lady Smith (who was indeed Spanish) at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Harry_Smith,_1st_Baronet. Not sure about the kidnapping at 14 yo thing. There's also a Harrismith in the Free State (previously, Orange Free State) province, named after the man himself.
The Boer war has always been a mystery to me and this battle exemplifies the strangeness. Why would the British think a police chief was qualified to lead anything bigger then a company? The battle plan by General Warren involved dividing his force in the face of the enemy, with no provision made to provide communication between them, and no thought as to provide water to his troops defies logic. BTW_I'm sure by 1899 the British soldiers carried canteens,,,right? It's as though the British had learned nothing about tactics and strategy from the previous wars!
Something we seem to miss is the British Concerntration camps in South Africa in the second Boer Woer starting in 1899. Could be a good topic!! Great vid btw.
@@TheHistoryChap I agree, I'm a Brit living in SA and married to an SA. It is a subject that is swept under the carpet and she feels strongly too. Thats why I mentioned it, but it has to be done well and I think you are the one to cover it.
The problem with the British army all the way through the Second World War was that a whole lot of generals learned nothing from defeat. In all the British wars it would take an unorthodox thinking general to rescue the British cause. The American army is just the same especially after the fiasco of Vietnam. The more things change the more they stay the same.
since the 1850s British troops had worn unofficial Khaki uniforms when in India and the far east, however the last time the British war red into battle would be at Ginnis in 1885 during the Mahdist war, from then onward the British army when on campaign would be dressed in Khaki, on home service Khaki replaced the Red in 1902, though obviously the red (and other traditional colours, like Green for rifles and Blue for the Artillery and so on) would be retained for ceremonial uses.
Chris, you are a treasure! Hello, you keep calling the Boers German. While Germans may have been there in small numbers, Boers were Dutch descendants. (Boer is Dutch for farmer, German would be Bauer. Similar enough. They could understand one another... "mostly", but they were not German. Please correct me if I am wrong. Interestingly, Sir Winston used a German Mauser M96 pistol, privately acquired. I enjoyed this immensely and learned quite a bit. Thank you, Kurt from Colorado
Kurt, thanks for getting in touch. Having lived in South Africa I am aware that the Boers were Dutch descendents (with some French and other nationalities thrown in too). The Germans that I was referring to on the top of Spion Kop were genuione Germans - they had travelled to South Africa to fight for the Boers. Hope that clarifies.
I am now involved with Acton Homes village near Spioen Kop andthe Mkhonto Wesiswe veterans are also laying claim to land in that village, adding another dimension.
Very interesting, history would have being very different if Botha, Churchill,and Gandhi had been killed ,Botha along with Gen Smuts chose to enter into WWl on the British side instead of staying neutral...and invaded the German colony of German South West Africa ( Namibia) Maybe you could also do a series on foreign troops who fought for both sides.
Too much emphasis on the Lanc Regiments. You Barely memtioned the Yorks & Lancs, of which the Hallamshire Battalion was the reason for the Kop in Sheffield.
Funny, the hills called "Twin Peaks" on the map are called "Drielingkoppe" (triplet hills) on the map in Dutch and/or Afrikaans. That might have been WELL confusing ("Twin Peaks? I see three of them!" / "Drielingkoppe? Ek sien maar net twee!"). 😆
In the middle of the US state of Oregon, in the high desert, we have a hill called Spion Kop. I have no idea why a hill in the Oregon outback has the same Afrikaans name as a South African battlefield. I shall endeavor to find out.
If you look at his words at the time he felt he had a duty to support the British Empire. His men were recruited to support the British cause not as a humanitarian effort. Gandhi personally received a British medal.
@@TheHistoryChap If that is true and I don't doubt it, he had a lot of detractors too including the Sekhs who hated him, amongst Hindus he was accused of favoring the Gujaratis. He is not a Saint in all eyes. Every man has his price.
@@nathanappleby5342 I wasn't just talking about this one battle , obviously not sure about the population of them 3 south African states that we was taking on at the time ,but must be talking fairly large numbers it's pure testement to us British and our empire ,that somehow we took on so many countries from our small island I just thought we d be outnumbered at times with boar wars 🇬🇧
Im a boer still today my forefathers set the standards. They fought for freedom from British rule, but when they found gold and diamonds, they eanted the riches of the land. 35000 woman and children died in cosentration camps and scorched earth policy destroyed farms boer animals etc. War is sad, but retribution for the camp deaths are comming. Sighns are there today.
@@TheHistoryChap Er hello, wake up will ya. Woolwich Arsenal named part of the ground the Kop because of Spion Kop. That`s HISTORY and shouldn`t be left out. Are you attempting to re-write history by excluding facts? There were around 30 football clubs that had a Kop end or Spion Kop end over the years, a far more interesting fact than your offering where you make it look like only Liverpool had one. Sheffield United have a Kop stand to this day. Do you think people around Sheffield don`t know that. Learn some history.
Thanks, another excellent video on the Boer war, just as fine as your other videos on this war that I have watched thus far (Magerfontein and Colenso - will be working through the rest of your Boer War videos as well). What I like about your videos is that, apart from your excellent story telling skills, you also present the historical facts as accurately as possible without taking sides - just sharing history as it happened. Keep up the great work!! Greetings from South Africa.
Many thanks for your kind words.
Thank you, very enjoyable. The first record of a "Kop" at an English football ground was at the Woolwich Arsenal's (now Arsenal FC) Manor Ground in 1904. Besides the famous example you describe, there are quite a few more Kops in English football grounds still in existence, including examples at Sheffield Wednesday's Hillsborough ground and St. Andrews, home of Birmingham City. Birmingham's Kop deserves a special mention as it's different to many others in that it runs down the length of the pitch (most are behind a goal), and it's probably the only one that's built on a rubbish tip ! In 1906 when the Blues moved to St Andrews, they needed an embankment to build the stand on. They came up with the novel idea of inviting local people to dump their rubbish on the site, and when it had settled down they built the stand on top of the rise using railway sleepers.
Stephen, thats a brilliant story. I am sure Villa fans will have an opinion of the rubbish tip!
Arsenal aka the Didcot Wanderers are as you say a South London club not a North London club. Arsenals closest rivals must be either Millwall or Charlton not Tottenham
@@michaelcampin1464 Didcot? Not sure I get that one.
And at Bramall Lane, Sheffield United’s ground
There was a spion Kop at Coventry’s old ground too - think it was a common name for steep terraces at a lot of football grounds. As for ‘Didcot’ I think they mean diddycoy which is a word for travellers
Another good video. Thanks for what you do friend.
My pleasure!
I enjoy your channel and your story telling. Maybe do a few stories on the British perspective of the American Revolutionary war thanks !!'
Tom, thanks for your support and your idea.
You are not the first to request that perspective so I will move it up my "to-do" list.
I hope Britain becomes a communist nation 😍🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🚩🚩🚩
Another great video, I must thank you again for producing this wonderful content. I always look forward to new videos!
Many thanks. Glad you liked it.
Thanks for that - very well told with the right mix of enthusiasm and pathos. That hill is massive.
Many thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.
Let me go get some beer and settle in and enjoy this. I always enjoy different takes on the Anglo Boer wars😎
Let's be honest, every history story has at least two perspectives (& probably a heck of a lot more). I hope you enjoy mine.
Brilliant video. There used to be a Spion Kop stadium in Warrington due to the South Lancashire regiment being based in the local barracks. There is also a statue in Warrington of Lieutenant-Colonel William MacCarthy O'Leary commanding offer of the South Lancashire regiment who was killed at Spion Kop.
Thanks for sharing.
I wrote an article on Kommandant Hendrik Prinsloo which includes aspects of his heroics at Spionkop for which he was gifted a special presentation Mauser rifle.
Thanks for watching my video & your feedback.
I have been atop of this hill several times , it's so peacefull up there where one can sit and reflect and perhaps read about what happened there
I bet it was a bit of a climb?
@TheHistoryChap What a climb? Deneys Reitz was the war representative, and he eventually became an attorney.
This is the second of your videos I watched, as you can see I am a newcomer, and I will say it again: You have a wonderful gift for story-telling. Everything becomes alive and the excellent little maps are a great help. I remember reading an article in a British military magazine nearly 25 years ago and the author was quite harsh with Revers Buller, a judgment with which I agree 100%. As the late (and great) Richard Holmes said: "He was a bad joke". Greetings from Buenos Aires!
Thanks for your kind words of support.
Thankyou. This is an education. One of my grandmothers brothers was in the Boer war, I'll have to find out more.
Glad you enjoyed it.
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Been lucky enough to stand on this battlefield. Zero cover. Must have been hell for the troops. Cemetery in my town is named Spion Kop. Great video as always. Love these
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Very cool! Thank you! I really liked that you pointed out all of the folks who were or would become famous due to other circumstances.
Excellent (once again) - thanks Chris
My pleasure. Thanks for watching
An excellent job describing the battle during the Boer War. The lessons were learned at great expense of many lives of British soldiers. Kudos to you 👏 🙌 👍 for another video on English history.
Many thanks, Harry
British history. (and South African). England does not equal Britain, nor Britain England.
Thanks Chris, another belter
Thanks for watching
Thank you for the history lesson
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Chris , I have been studying this problem with the British leadership problem for well over 20 minutes now and I have come to the conclusion that England's problem is , England does not possess the type of leader to deal with such peoples as the Boer's , Zulus and that mess in Sudan . Tsk Tsk . We had Thomas " Stonewall " Jackson , George Patton & George Custer ! Men who were not afraid to Kill everyone in their command for the glory of the Regiment ! Custer & Jackson would have made a great WW2 Japanese Officers , You get to take your sword into combat and use the bayonet ! It is thanks to incredibly insane leaders like these that America is the way we are , free and insane ? Another great job Chris !
Lonnie, long time no hear. Its' always great to share your perspective on history. Thank you.
So true ! German officer observing British infantry walking into deadly German machinegun fire ,Silly officers ordering the men to keep in line and do not run , German described it ,as LIONS BEING LED BY DONKEYS . After we have witnessed Boris ,Truss & ,Sunak perform ,its understandable ,,
Another superb presentation.
Very kind of you. Thanks.
Another excellent film.
Thank you.
Fantastic vid chap. A lot of people in a small location. One acre in size!!
Hard to imagine, isn't it. Thanks for watching.
Excellent narration. Enjoyed this one.
Thank you.
Absolutely Amazing!!!
Thanks for watching
One of the properties my family owned in Bromyard was called Spion Kop - it seems a pretty common name used at the turn of the 20th Century - a bit like all the Alma Inns there still are in existence.
Having brought up in a house called Alma, I tend to agress.
another great video pal
Thank you
Good presentation thanks
You are welcome
For some reason, I read somewhere that Churchill and Ghandi were in this battle. The Boers, dutch speaking farmers in the main, were armed with Mausers, and familiar with the ground they were defending.
Correct.
Ghandi was at the drift or crossing on the Tugela. he did not get onto the Kop. Churchill would be at Mount Alice at the start of the battle and make it to the aid station on the spur. The second time would be with the order from Warren to say no retreat.
Fascinating, thanks
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
The terraces at football grounds being called "Kops"refers to the steepness of the ground attacking british troops had to assault.
Thanks for sharing
awesome as always
Glad you enjoyed. Thanks for your support.
Fantastic!
My pleasure. Thank you for watching
Great. Again
Thanks.
Very,Very Good
Many thanks.
The remarkable difference between a brave competent Boer general and a British general who achieved his position through patronages and connections in the absence of ability… it’s no wonder that the British where soundly beaten.
Sending troops who were not properly equipped with appropriate logistics was criminally negligent but inevitable the British spun the defeat and closed ranks to cover up the incredible incompetence of the various British officers and generals.
Thank you for taking the time to post your “considered opinion”
Thank you very much for making this content 😊
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it.
The Boere were farmers…. Not a army, just a band of brothers
Well they put up a pretty good fight.
It’s a shame that Liverpool fans have lost their identity with British (especially military) history, seeing as they choose to boo the national anthem
Bizarre isn't it?
What is there to boo
@@TheHistoryChap why do Liverpool fans boo it? Not bizarre at all. You should know if you’re into history.
@@peterlpool1387please tell us why then, I’m genuinely interested.
Complacent comment
Hey Chris, when will you be doing a video on the Battle of Majuba Hill? The funny thing is, in both engagements, the British were driven from the hills with staggering losses, though really at Spion Kop, the British just withdrew at the end of the fight. Something I'd like to mention about Majuba Hill is that at the time of the battle, the British commander, Sir George Colley, was a major general, and was in command of a force of 400 officers and men. I know it was because of reduction from previous battles, but it is still odd.
Nathan, Majuba is on the cards. Watch this space!
The Boers had three things in their favour; General Louis Botha, Commandant Prinsloo of the Carolina Commando and the excellent handling by their five field guns and two 37mm Pom-poms.
Thanks for watching my video & your interesting feedback.
Hi Nicolaas, you may be interested in my article on Kommandant Hendrik Prisnsloo and his presentation Mauser rifle. Google: Richard Henry. Ditsong, Hendrik Prinsloo and his presentation rifle. A South African now living in Sweden.
Intriguing story👌
Thank you.
Your narrative is splendid you have done a great job. I have visited the battle site and it is a very confusing terrain in that the hills are all about and it took me some time to work it out. The one thing which really messed my thinking was the distance the trenches were from the crest. The Boers could almost in places have shaken hands with a British soldier. This meant the Brits had no chance as they the most exposed. Talk about fumbling about in the dark. The Boers were practically invited to enfiiade the trench you show with the bodies.
Thanks so much for sharing your visit.
Great video. I own myself a sword belonging to an infantry officer who was at spion kop. It would be great if you could do maybe on the Indian mutiny or the battle of saragahi in 1898!
Cheers!
Thanks for sharing. Battle of Saragahi is on the cards. Watch this space!
The battle is still sang about at Liverpool home games. Little soldier tommy
Thanks for sharing
Excellent video, as always .Only one question:¿Ladysmith name is due to the wife of a british officer who was spanish?
Was it?
@@TheHistoryChap i think so wanted your expert knowledge, but I checked and it was named after Sir Harry Smith's Spanish wife Juana María de los Dolores de León Smith
She was taken as wife at age 12-14yo after her and her mother being taken prisoners by Smith.
I always understood Ladysmith (and its Cape Province "sister" town, Ladismith) to have been named after the wife of Sir Harry Smith (governor of the Cape Colony among other postings). There's a bit about Lady Smith (who was indeed Spanish) at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Harry_Smith,_1st_Baronet. Not sure about the kidnapping at 14 yo thing.
There's also a Harrismith in the Free State (previously, Orange Free State) province, named after the man himself.
The Boer war has always been a mystery to me and this battle exemplifies the strangeness. Why would the British think a police chief was qualified to lead anything bigger then a company? The battle plan by General Warren involved dividing his force in the face of the enemy, with no provision made to provide communication between them, and no thought as to provide water to his troops defies logic. BTW_I'm sure by 1899 the British soldiers carried canteens,,,right? It's as though the British had learned nothing about tactics and strategy from the previous wars!
Thanks for taking the time to comment. Appreciate it.
Love your work Chris, I’m curious if you mentioned Abu Klea in your previous videos?
No I haven't but it is on my hit list for this Autumn. Please subscribe so you don't miss it.
Botha eh a great fighting man's name from over there .
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@@TheHistoryChap anytime Freind your great stories and way you tell them ,inspire many of us out here thanks again for your time .
Is this a reupload Chris?
Yes, I wanted to change some photos.
Something we seem to miss is the British Concerntration camps in South Africa in the second Boer Woer starting in 1899. Could be a good topic!! Great vid btw.
Yes, I do want to cover that subject. Just want to get it right, because for a lot of my South African viewers it is still a very emotional subject.
@@TheHistoryChap I agree, I'm a Brit living in SA and married to an SA. It is a subject that is swept under the carpet and she feels strongly too. Thats why I mentioned it, but it has to be done well and I think you are the one to cover it.
Nearly 20,000 British soldiers also died of disease and malnutrition in South Africa at the same time, yet hardly anyone even knows about this.
Hello: is this an amended article dated 3/8/22 as I am sure I watched one similar on your channel over the last fortnight?
Yes, Gary, it is.
YT didn't like the pictures of dead bodies so I have re-uploaded.
I too had a twinge of Deja Vu. So I'm not crazy.
Jan Smuts was also there as described by Denys Reits in the book commando.
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The problem with the British army all the way through the Second World War was that a whole lot of generals learned nothing from defeat. In all the British wars it would take an unorthodox thinking general to rescue the British cause. The American army is just the same especially after the fiasco of Vietnam. The more things change the more they stay the same.
Thank you for taking the time to comment.
I’ve stood on the summit of Spion Kop and it’s hard to believe that such a battle took place here.
Thanks for sharing
Not that I’m complaining about this video, but did it come out before and needed to be re uploaded?
Yes you are right. YT didn't like the images of dead bodies and wanted to restrict access.
@@TheHistoryChap gotcha, wonderful content as always, any thoughts on doing some American War of Independence videos, asking as an american
Was it during the Boer war, that the British army ditched uniform Red for Khaki?
it was before then, in India.
since the 1850s British troops had worn unofficial Khaki uniforms when in India and the far east, however the last time the British war red into battle would be at Ginnis in 1885 during the Mahdist war, from then onward the British army when on campaign would be dressed in Khaki, on home service Khaki replaced the Red in 1902, though obviously the red (and other traditional colours, like Green for rifles and Blue for the Artillery and so on) would be retained for ceremonial uses.
Chris, you are a treasure!
Hello, you keep calling the Boers German. While Germans may have been there in small numbers, Boers were Dutch descendants. (Boer is Dutch for farmer, German would be Bauer. Similar enough. They could understand one another... "mostly", but they were not German. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Interestingly, Sir Winston used a German Mauser M96 pistol, privately acquired.
I enjoyed this immensely and learned quite a bit. Thank you, Kurt from Colorado
Kurt, thanks for getting in touch.
Having lived in South Africa I am aware that the Boers were Dutch descendents (with some French and other nationalities thrown in too).
The Germans that I was referring to on the top of Spion Kop were genuione Germans - they had travelled to South Africa to fight for the Boers.
Hope that clarifies.
I'm a Warren. LOL Yes.. he was a relative.
You have a more interesting family tree than mine!
I wonder if you could do a talk on the massacre of the Scottish by the English at Culloden in 1746, all in the name of Empire.
Thanks for watching my video. I have the battle which took place on my ever growing list.
thanks it was great
Glad you enjoyed.
I am now involved with Acton Homes village near Spioen Kop andthe Mkhonto Wesiswe veterans are also laying claim to land in that village, adding another dimension.
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Very interesting, history would have being very different if Botha, Churchill,and Gandhi had been killed ,Botha along with Gen Smuts chose to enter into WWl on the British side instead of staying neutral...and invaded the German
colony of German South West Africa ( Namibia)
Maybe you could also do a series on foreign troops who fought for both sides.
Great idea; I will add to my list. Maybe also one about SA invasion of German SWA (& the Boers who fought with the Germans)
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Is this a re-upload??
Swear heard you talk about this one before
Yes it is, because YT limited access to original due to some original photos of dead bodies.
@@TheHistoryChap ah darn YT
Too much emphasis on the Lanc Regiments. You Barely memtioned the Yorks & Lancs, of which the Hallamshire Battalion was the reason for the Kop in Sheffield.
Thank you for taking the time to highlight the Yorks and Lancs.
very distressing result
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Can anyone recommend a good film on the Boer war please?
Breaker Morant?
@@TheHistoryChap Sounds interesting. Thank you!
Bourne had an interesting career. Spion Kop was a lesson in what happens when idiots collide.
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts
I think I read about this: it sounds quite familiar
The boers were really hero's.
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Funny, the hills called "Twin Peaks" on the map are called "Drielingkoppe" (triplet hills) on the map in Dutch and/or Afrikaans. That might have been WELL confusing ("Twin Peaks? I see three of them!" / "Drielingkoppe? Ek sien maar net twee!"). 😆
Interesting observation. Thanks for taking the time to share.
Slower please Chris - too many names and info at rapid fire rate - v. difficult to absorb it all clearly.
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In the middle of the US state of Oregon, in the high desert, we have a hill called Spion Kop. I have no idea why a hill in the Oregon outback has the same Afrikaans name as a South African battlefield. I shall endeavor to find out.
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Gandhi did not support the British. He just wanted to help the wounded of both sides- futility of war.
If you look at his words at the time he felt he had a duty to support the British Empire. His men were recruited to support the British cause not as a humanitarian effort. Gandhi personally received a British medal.
@@TheHistoryChap If that is true and I don't doubt it, he had a lot of detractors too including the Sekhs who hated him, amongst Hindus he was accused of favoring the Gujaratis. He is not a Saint in all eyes. Every man has his price.
I can just hear the Goons talking about the battle of Spion Kop
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England build in south Afrika the first concentration camps.
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6KM PR HOUR FULL KIT MERE STROLL FOR MILITARY
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General Schalk (Skulk) Burger - pronounciation
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@@TheHistoryChap Happy to help, I really enjoy your episodes!
The British military: Lions led by Donkeys.
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Britain's Black Week
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The correct spelling is "Spioen Kop"
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That is the modern day spelling. I think original British archives refer to it as Spion Kop and dutch name at the time was Spionenkop.
Dis spioen kop mamparas
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A bridge too far for us ,must of been well outnumbered by the boars in every battle 🇬🇧
Well, the British had the superior numbers. The Boers had the high ground and better marksmanship. The staggering casualtries proved it.
tend to agree with Nathan. The British (normally) had superior numbers but battles aren't always won by superior numbers.
@@nathanappleby5342 I wasn't just talking about this one battle , obviously not sure about the population of them 3 south African states that we was taking on at the time ,but must be talking fairly large numbers it's pure testement to us British and our empire ,that somehow we took on so many countries from our small island I just thought we d be outnumbered at times with boar wars 🇬🇧
Uhm...please get the damn name of that kop right: "Spioenkop"...Spy Hill...directly translated.🤷♂️🤣
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Spion Kop is time accurate, Spioen Kop is modern day spelling. Think the dutch name at the time was Spionenkop.
Please do more research...
I just can't agree with you.
Refer to Thomas Pakenham' book and research on this topic.... 😂😂😂😂
Im a boer still today my forefathers set the standards. They fought for freedom from British rule, but when they found gold and diamonds, they eanted the riches of the land. 35000 woman and children died in cosentration camps and scorched earth policy destroyed farms boer animals etc. War is sad, but retribution for the camp deaths are comming. Sighns are there today.
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Woolwich Arsenal FC had a Kop end at their ground at Plumstead Common, before Liverpool as it happens.
But no one remembers that one do they?
@@TheHistoryChap Er hello, wake up will ya. Woolwich Arsenal named part of the ground the Kop because of Spion Kop. That`s HISTORY and shouldn`t be left out. Are you attempting to re-write history by excluding facts? There were around 30 football clubs that had a Kop end or Spion Kop end over the years, a far more interesting fact than your offering where you make it look like only Liverpool had one. Sheffield United have a Kop stand to this day. Do you think people around Sheffield don`t know that. Learn some history.