Yeah buddy congratulations you got it and I’m really impressed =) Be sure to tune in Monday 430 Eastern standard time to catch the latest episode on what it’s like featuring 1973 Lincoln continental town coupe
It looks like Plymouth used the same tail lights from1950 to 1952. Although 1949 was the first year for that styling, the tail lights were at the top of the fenders in 49 only.
=) I missed that opportunity and episodes passed so definitely wanted to explain what it did and I will definitely explain it going forward as well. The two-tone paint scheme on this car is very interesting where they decided to make the cut off for the lines. Glad you dig this episode
Thank you, Jay, for this awesome video!...I have 35mm slides of my parents on their honeymoon in Colorado in a new 1952 dawn grey Cranbrook…they had this car up until 1956 and I must have been a passenger up through my first birthday…I’ve researched the car before, but your video really brought it to life!!...Love the red on chrome Plymouth letters on the nose and the traffic light finder on the dash!!!...I learned so much more that I didn’t know about this car.
Thank you so much for the positive vibes Great story thank you so much for sharing that awesome memory =) This car was hard to research the information just as an out there
1988 got married with my Wonderfull wife , my best man Chris was my driver in my 641/2 mustang , cool , my weeding present was a 1959 chevy belair 283 3speed auto , red on read 4 doors nice shape . One month later Chris got married , well i was the best man , i gave him my 1950 dodge deluxe , flat head 6 , 3 on the three 4 doors , no rust, in nice condition , and i was the driver !. We Cruze in gravel back roads sipping wine & chaplain . Wow ! I had to share this with you . This car here that you are showing us is just a treat ! Take’s me back a few years back ! Thanks so much ! Well done , well done :)
Another great presentation. The Plymouth Belvedere is the little sister of the Dodge Diplomat. One of these sold at Branson Auctions last year for $26,000, equipped with the optional dual-carb manifold. The hood ornament is the 'Mayflower', which brought the 'Pilgrims' to America landing on 'Plymouth Rock'.
This is another one of those vehicles that never looked that appealing to me, but one thing I really like about your reviews, is that after seeing all the details inside and out of a vehicle, I always develop a new perspective and appreciation for it! The paint scheme and the interior are really beautiful! I definitely prefer the dash design and steering wheel of this one, over the '50. It does look like it would be the perfect car for traveling and riding in, with all that space, and could fit all the luggage and stuff you'd need in that enormous trunk!! I think from this group of cars, I'd probably pick the Chevy.
Jay I have to tell you I have been watching you channel for about two years now. I try not to miss an episode. Each one is steller the fact that you show every detail of the car makes every car seam exciting to own. Thank you so much.
Thank you so much it really means the world it really does I really try and bring something to the table that hasn’t been brought =) and add things as time goes on the keep fresh
11:30 A lot of men (back in the day) would wear their hats to the dealership to make sure their head and their hat would fit in the car. Now, practically nobody wears a hat, so the hat test isn't as important when picking a new car. edit: Ooops, you covered exactly this fact at 15:26.
I was brought home from the hospital in a black, 4-door, maybe 1951 Plymouth sedan. It came to my parents from my grandfather. The only more things I remember was that my grandfather(an on-the -road salesman and inventor) installed an electric rear window wiper and when I thought I was helping my parents out, was playing gas station attendant, with the gas station attendant hat I was given, took the gas cap off and filled the gas tank full of water. Being very proud of myself, I told my mother what I had done. Luckily, she called my father who drained the gas tank when he got home from work. My parents first new car was a 1960 Dodge dart. My best friend's mother drove an older fastback Plymouth. I remember it's massive radio grille and the large hood decoration of a sailing ship! I'd love to have a 1951 Plymouth just like my parents had or one like my friend's mother drove. But, of the cars shown today, the '52 Chevy, for sure. It had the most modern engine of the 3 and a semi-automatic transmission.
You were lucky you told Mom about that and Dad was able to save it. Othewise, you might have received it for your 16th birthday with a card attached that said "You BROKE it, Junior. You FIX it." 😋
Chevy had a fully automatic Power Glide two speed transmission and Ford had a fully automatic Ford O Matic three speed. Plymouth did not get the two speed Power Flite Automatic until 1955.
@@danielulz1640 The Chevy Powerglide was a semi-automatic until 1953 when automatic shifting was added. The first series Powerglides operated like the Buick Dynaflow and low gear had to be manually accessed. Ford and Studebaker got a Borg-Warner based 3-speed fully automatic transmission in 1951. Even with those, low gear had to be manually accessed. The Studebaker version differed in that it had a lock-up torque converter. Studebaker used the same basic automatic through the end of Studebaker U.S. production in 1964. Studebaker added a 2nd gear quadrant on the Avanti, but it still shifted like a 2-speed automatic. Ford used the basic Ford-O-Matic, as well as AMC, into the 1970's. Internal and external changes were made along the way which added shift quadrants and the Ford version became the Cruise-O-Matic in 1958, giving automatic shifts using all 3 forward gears. Chevrolet discontinued the old cast-iron Powerglide in 1962. It introduced the new aluminum-cased Powerglide, still a 2-speed, and continued to use it into the 1970's.
My parents had a tan 1950 Plymouth two door identical to the one you show at 2:30. It was very reliable and well built, but living in the Northeast, it was prone to rust. it was always my dad's favorite car. They traded it in for a '55 Plymouth in 1960.
Thank you so much for sharing that amazing story it was a great memory I will totally know what it’s like living in the Northeast everything just rusts What’s crazy is Wyoming gets snow as well but they don’t put the nasty chemicals on the roads to the cars there’s a lot of cars over there or so I’m told p.
Hey Jay, I call it a rear window, I think that backlight sounds stupid. This Plymouth Belvedere is very nice with it's two tone gray over blue paint!!! The interior is beautiful too. I really like those sun visors, they add a special touch to the car. I don't know why but for the last couple of days I haven't been getting notified of your videos & my notifications are on, I check my phone often so I do see your videos!! Thanks for sharing this cool Plymouth!!! 👍👍🙂
Yes that’s exactly what I’m talking about somebody in the comment section told me to pick up a vocabulary I’m sorry I thesaurus an automotive thesaurus in the rear window is labeled as back light but whenever I cross reference that word they’re giving me all kinds of different words for actual back up lights and I was like this is stupid. I hate the word backlight I mentioned it in a different video I think it’s the dumbest word to describe the rear window and I’m so happy that you agree with me. The video never made it last night it got posted early this morning I’m trying to be consistent at 4:30 but if you knew me in real life I’m late to everything. Lol
FWIW, I never heard it called "backlight" either. I always heard the trunk lid called "deck lid," but never heard "backlight" for rear window. I'm not saying backlight is right or wrong, just that I'd never heard it.
Excellent. I drove a four door black Plymouth Cranbrook during my college days. Radio and heater - all tricked out, eh? I thought I remember it having something called Fluid Drive which was this weirdo transmission that you still had to shift and use a clutch part of the time. i HIGHLY DOUBT the 0-60 time because mine never could event get past 55:)
The format that you have developed to present vehicles is one of the beast on the internet. Keep up the good work! Keep showing us the trunk, interior, back seat, etc....
Thank you so much it means the world if you go back and watch some of my older videos the format isn’t there and it gives a much deeper respect for how far it’s come. Today’s episode on the Chrysler Royal the footage got messed up for the backseat it says that it recorded a minute 40 but only six seconds of it actually showed up is a common problem with a GoPro I need to figure out another camera that’s more reliable when you’re shooting all day with a GoPro sometimes it glitches.
@@What.its.like. You need a camera person. Your kids can work for free if you have any. I have watched your videos from the beginning. I am a fan of dashboards and the thought that went into the design. Your description of knobs and gauges is important. Your camera test is unique and serves a good purpose. Your audience, myself included, will probably never get the chance to enter or touch the vehicles you have access and I show cars as a hobby.
I like the first person camera angle plus I’ve found out the shot that I do are different than the shots I direct it’s not the same. Every sees things different and the way they approach is different even me, I can’t tell the same story the exact same twice. It will be the same plot and story just told different
Plymouth was at a definite competitive disadvantage in 1952 by not offering an automatic transmission. You could buy a 1952 Ford with Fordomatic or a '52 Chevrolet with Powerglide, both fully automatic with no clutch pedal. Customers could not get a fully automatic transmission on a Plymouth until mid-1954 model year, when Powerflite became available.
I think Plymouth cars build quality was very well done back in the day. I am old enough to remember seeing these cars everywhere. I also remember that in the early 70's Chrysler product build quality was found somewhat wanting. In the 90's their cars began to be better engineered cars. I had at one time a little 90 Plymouth Sundance, and it was a very sturdy nice little car. Its life ended when my wife was driving it and she was T-Boned by an elderly man who had no business driving. The car was destroyed, but because it was built so well my wif sustained only minor injury's.
I've always liked Chrysler products. In my family we have owned a 1977 Gran Fury, a 1984 LeBaron and a 1986 LeBaron GTS. My favourite model of recent years is the Chrysler 300, although it is presently in its final year.
Love your channel. Best yet of classic cars. Lots of useful info. My choice? The 1952 Belvedere for sure. I'd drive it as an everyday car except in winter. Beauty of a car.
I hadn't seen this model, but the big rear screen and two tone paint goes some way to helping the fairly dumpy styling of these cars. Mechanically, though these cars are really bulletproof. I checked on the claim that the overdrive was a new feature, as I was pretty sure that all Chrysler cars could be had with overdrives in the 1930's. Both views are correct, as the 1952 overdrive was a new type with electric actuation. Cheers.
I love the long sloping backs of this era. Streamlining was just coming in and was reflected from the early jet age. These cars looked like they were moving even though they were standing still. All they needed was more powerful engines and better mpg. I especially liked the absence of a B pillar making a cleaner look to the roof line. Great example of a survivor car that is also very rare. I would have chosen this over a Chevy or a Ford.
Yeah I tried to copy it from something that was kind of mocking it then I went back and listen to the actual cartoon and I was laughing so hard because of the stuff that character said was just funny. Look at me when I’m talking at you lol 😂
The glass manufacturers did and may still refer the back glass as a light. Repair shops and the industry as well followed the same termology. Side glass was also referred to as light. The windshield or windscreen is only on the front.
Great video. The only thing you missed mentioning are the blue dots in the taillights! They were a popular thing in the 50's. At night the taillights looked almost the same. But... When the brakes were applied in a car with blue dots, the light would turn fuchsia! Try it sometime with your DSLR on a tripod. 😊 I bet this won't be the last car you will see with blue dots.
"Rear window" works. Let's not go too British. Next we'll be hearing about the " boot" and the "bonnet"! What surprises me is not having used this roof treatment to produce a New Yorker or Imperial coupe. That was the line that needed greater styling distinction.
TV trivia….Plymouth scored one of the top advertising coups in 1958. They sponsored the Lawrence Welk show as a sole advertiser for the 58-59 tv season. The show was known as the Lawrence Welk Plymouth Show. The Welk show was one of the biggest draws in tv ratings then. This gives you an idea how strong Plymouth was then.
LOL! I have a lot of leg room in the back of my Toyota Rav-4...but this is because my wife is very short, so when she drives, the front seat is as far forward as the seat rails will allow!
Front lighting. The small lights are called parking lights, and maybe included turn signals. Maybe not. First switch position brought these on with the taillights. Second position brought the headlights on and the parking lights went off. In 1967 corner side markers were mandated. For simplicity they were just wired to the parking lights, so from then parking lights stayed on with the headlights.
They could NOT design a stylish, a classy, car today to save their lives.... When I become filthy rich, I'll buy myself a 1938 Cadillac like my granddad, or an early 30's Chrysler Imperial, maybe a Packard or Lincoln! A Duesenberg would be taking it too far, right? 😉😎 Excellent video as always my friend! 🤜🏻🤛🏻🍻
I found the car that I want when I become rich if that ever happens they only built four of them though so the odds of me ever getting one or very slim. 1934 packard aero coupe v12 www.supercars.net/blog/1934-packard-twelve-model-1106/ Thank you so much for the positive vibes =)
@@What.its.like. That is....CLASSY! 😳😲😎 Wouldn't mind a Cord or a 1934 Auburn Boattail Speedster, poetry and art on wheels! 😍🥰😎 Always a pleasure....keep 'em videos coming!
Hopefully start digging into those cars this year they have an 810 Coffin cord at classic automotive problem is it’s like a hot rod and it’s not original I try to go for the most original cars I could find because the channel is what it’s like not what it could be like lol
@@What.its.like. Should you ever come across that 1934 Packard Aero Coupe V12, the owners should start to worry! I'm sure that you'll find some gems! 🤞🏻🤜🏻🤛🏻
Good job, but you have the model lineup in reverse pecking order. The 1952 Concord P-22 2-door (111-inch whb, 6-passengers) Sedan sold for $1,753. Next, the Cambridge Club Coupe for $1,784, then Cranbrook Club Coupe (both P-23, 6-passenger, 118.5-inch whb) at $1,884. The 1952 Cranbrook Belvedere as seen in your brochure image was a halo car, at $2,216.
I like the Blue 1959 Plymouth Conv. On the drivers side of this car. That’s my scene. Waiting for Town Coupe Video.I had a ‘73 for a short period in Excellent condition to sell for a profit and I didn’t want to sell it. First guy that looked at it bought it without even driving it. Still preferred my 1973 Fleetwood Brougham to the Lincoln but that Lincoln had it’s qualities too.
I reviewed the 59 next to it that car was awesome you never see them ruclips.net/video/LeoseQ3xT3o/видео.html I’m a huge Lincoln fan that Continental was pretty cool the only down or is the b roll didn’t turn out The way I wanted it to and I wasn’t feeling very good by that point everybody in my family got sick days prior and I decided to go out there anyway and I felt great until about halfway through the day I couldn’t stop coughing I ate two or three bags of cough drops that day
I like the details of this car. Regarding your comparison questions, I prefer the 52 Belvedere, even though back in the day, they both seemed stodgy. Also, I would prefer the 52 Bel Aire to the Belvedere. Hey, was that Fog Horn Leg Horn you were impersonating at the end? 😀
Yeah there was this show that ripped on that character and I was doing the impression from the show I wish I could remember the things that he said some of the stuff that he came up with that character did was just priceless, like look at me when I’m talking to you boy lol hahaha
@@What.its.like. Hey boy, what's the idea jackin' that pot up under me? Jack? Pot? Ah huh, huh … jack pot, that's a joke son, don't ya get it?” Fog Horn Leg Horn.
I believe the term "back-light" is a British thing, like "wing" for "fender"... I've really only seen it in NA usage reletively recently. This generation of Plymouth was really a mostly cosmetic re-do of the previous series; its styling a bit of GM ( sculpted fenders/hood) in the front, and "breadbox"Ford ("pontoon" style) in the rear. As to the headroom: K.T. Keller, CEO of Chrysler, had decreed that he should be able to sit in any Chryco product wearing his fedora; supposedly saying "We build cars to sit in, not piss over"! Having had some experience of these engines, I can tell you that that Top Speed is VERY theoretical... travel in these cars was was allways "leisurely" at best. Cheers.
I honestly hate the term back light somebody suggested in the comment section that I got an automotive thesaurus and that’s with the word that describes the rear window. I think I’m just going to call it a rear window I don’t know what other term I can use the funny thing is I check another thesaurus for back light and I got a bunch of different words all pertaining to rear brake lights.
Great vid. If you get a chance you should watch the 1952 movie “Hitchhiker “. I’m sure there was a plot but to me it’s about driving a then New Plymouth across the desert. If you look closely there were two different cars used.
The Plymouth Belvedere, Cranbrook and Cambridge cars were and will always be equal to the best offerings by Ford and Chevrolet for 1952. That flathead six although underpowered, was very torquey and smooth.
The Plymouth is not really a very good looking or stylish car overall. However, I did not know Plymouth had a hardtop model in 1952. That makes this a pretty cool car as it has a nice roofline profile, let down by its pontoon rear fenders, trunk and taillights. I looked up the color chart on this car. That color combination or one very close to it was an actual available trim combination. Plymouth had over 15 different color choices. That kind of surprises me because almost every Plymouth, dodge or Chrysler from this period seems to be wearing a grey or minty green paint color. Never see colors from the bright side of the color chart.
Of the choices, I would prefer the 1950 round gauges--they are easier to acclimate to. I once had a job where I had to drive a LOT of different cars, and standard round gauges were easier to read immediately than stylized unique gauges with their own individual quirks. The 1950 Special Deluxe over the 1952 Belvedere, with more room and four doors and better wind sealing. The 1952 Ford Victoria, with the new wide body and classic flathead V-8 engine. Plymouth's hood ornament was a stylized sailing ship, after the Mayflower which made a landing at Plymouth rock. (The steering wheel hub also had a sailing ship.) The purpose of the old hood ornaments was to protect the car's finish from greasy mechanics' hands. Much later, when Mercedes introduced a hood ornament on a spring mounting to protect the ornament itself, that defeated the original purpose. But Detroit had to ape Mercedes, which got praised for attention to detail, and so American cars got the same type of hood ornament mounting. But by then, finishes had improved.
Thank you so much for sharing all that information and insight I really appreciate it also thank you so much for sharing the memories from that story =)
I think Chrysler Corp offerings were really falling behind style-wise to Ford and GM. It wasn't until the mid to later 1950's when they flew ahead with "The Forward Look". Then they became the leaders. I do like how they 2-toned the back end of the car and brought it on the trunk. Overall, the early 1950's car styling was so "Blah" compared to what happened in 1955 with some exceptions here and there, like the 1953 Studebakers, 1952 Ford, and a few others. I'd love to see that cream colored 1938 (?) Packard in front of this car that you can see through the windshield. I'd also like to see one of those traffic light finders in operation. Hopefully in the future you can take a car with one installed on a road trip.
The '52 had a Briggs body, which was known for high quality. Chrysler bought the bodies from Briggs, then Walter Briggs died in 1952 and the heirs decided to sell the company to Chrysler, which didn't know how to manage the operation. Briggs also built bodies for Ford , Packard and other manufacturers. When Chrysler took ownership the former Briggs body plants lost those other contracts, they attempted to cut costs and the quality of Dodge and Plymouth bodies declined. Eventually Chrysler decided to assemble the bodies in the final assembly plant as the "unibody".
Interesting chanel. You "dare" cranking windows and showing space in both back and rear seats. Im not interested to see when some "testers" turning the aftermarket radio on and off and brifly go over the dash. Greatings from Sweden.
I really try and bring something that nobody else brings, I try to go over all of the information as if you’re looking to buy these cars because a lot of times I was looking for cars and I couldn’t find any information pertaining to the vehicle this channel gives you all the information that you could ever want except for and I wish that I could get it to this point talk about different oils used talk about different running temperatures some of the older episodes have that information but it’s going to vary depending on what part of the world do you live in.
In the comparison with the '51, you're comparing a hardtop with a post car. That's why the "windows seem shorter". Re: "backlight"...that is the correct engineering term for the rear window glass. If someone gets confused about that, it's because they don't know what the word means, not because there's any confusion at all among people who care about cars.
I got my license in 1955, and never heard the rear window referred to as a "backlight". I had a 51 like this one, and it was a jewel.($200) Far superior to my 52 Chevy, and only surpassed, in my opinion, by my 1973 Peugeot 504.
We have to feature some Peugeots on here eventually Great story Somebody suggested that I got an automotive thesaurus because he didn’t like some of the terms that I used it inside that said that the rear window is called the back light but I honestly think that’s the stupidest definition for the rear window anybody could give..
@@What.its.like. "Backlight" is the correct terminology. [A "light" is an opening through which day (natural) light may enter. The term "light" is also used in architecture as the designation for a window in a door or along side a door (a sidelight).] BTW, front "running lights" on automobiles did not come into use until the 1968 MY when they were mandated by regulation. Before then, they were called "parking lights" and were not illuminated when the headlamps were on. Turn-signals did not became a feature until the forties. They, along with reversing lamps (back-up lights), also became standard in 1968. Before then, they were standard only on the top trim lines but usually were available as an option on lower trim lines. P.S. The light-source which most people think of as a light-bulb is correctly a "lamp." The object which most think of as a lamp is correctly a "'portable' lighting fixture." When a light-source burns out, the action of replacing it is "re-lamping."
It’s funny that at the beginning of the video I thought the Plymouth looked a lot like a Chevy, then at 1:30 you showed the both cars saying the very same thing!
Ha! Sounds like you went way way back for that song! Even I'm not old enough for that one! My rathers would be not to have any of those cars. If it was gifted, I would sell it for cold hard cash! Good job as always Jay, but early 50's is my least favorite era.
Believe it or not that song is from the 60s lol it might be from my favorite band that’s a pretty big hint =) out of the scenarios I would take the Vicki hard top in a heartbeat with a six cylinder.. I love that era afford they are an optical illusion tons of space in that car and they look good too
"Backlite" refers to the rear glass - "rear light" refer to the lights. That said? Call em what ever you'd like, we get it. PS. A lot of cars looked similar in 1952. Ford took the lead in new styling. My uncle had one of these. Sun visor prism. Choice 1? 52 Belvedere. and Choice 2? 52 Ford. K. T. Keller Chrysler president: He insisted that a man should be able to comfortably wear a hat in a Chrysler product.
I would take the 1952 Ford because it was a fresh design for the year and looks more modern and inspired than the 1952 Chevy which is a styling "Upgrade" from what we saw in 1949 and the Plymouth which looks like a re-interpretation of the 1949 Chevy design.
Between the Plymouth Belvedere, Chevrolet Belair and Ford Crown Victoria, my rank for style is 3 = Plymouth, 2 = Ford and 1 equals Chevrolet. But all 3 of these cars are a long way down the list from the best looking American cars of 1952. Even in the low to mid price field.
This car is kind of emblematic of my issue with most if not all '51-'54 MoPar products... It's not bad looking by any means, but it just looks too much like GM products - an inferior, stodgy version thereof. That color scheme is interesting by itself, but does little to dispel this impression. I believe that if someone was choosing between this car and the Bel Air based on styling alone, Bel Air would've been the obvious choice. The Plymouth just looks as if it tries so hard to imitate it. Of course, it still could be a viable option based on its more practical virtues, like - more rear legroom. '49 & '50 Plymouth was stodgy as well, all right - but at least it was completely honest about it. As far as I get it - for '51 Chrysler wanted to add some GM "sauce", like flatter and more sloping hood, more body sculpting and a panoramic backlight, to "spice up" its lineup - but with somewhat mixed results because all of it was applied to largely the same '49 body shell. All that said - I'm generally a Ford guy if we are talking about '52-54 model years, so gimme a Crestline Victoria any day.
Most people refer to the rear window as BACKGLASS. These cars from Chrysler were pretty junky and it continued until today. Ask me why Chrysler filed for bankruptcy twice. Dont get me wrong this example is outstanding. These early mopar could hardly get out of their own way.
You're comparing a 2-door sedan and a newer 2-door hard top. two different cars. There was also the Dodge Diplomat of the same era. Both were the 'halo' cars for Plymouth and Dodge.
I just call it a rear window or rear windshield because "backlight" sounds like a light fixture, not a body part. The similarities are NUTS! If I had $100.00 for every dumb choice made on this planet, I'd already have 1 of each model of any car ever made by manufacturers, regardless of whether they're still in business or not.
The problem is there was a styling drought during the early 50s. They all just look so stodgy uninspiring. I can understand why by mid-decade, people wanted something a little flashy. Kinda went overboard with that! LOL!
Virgil Exner made Chrysler what it was in the 50s this was before that Plymouth Dodge Chrysler they all looked very stodgy not to see that the Chrysler products didn’t look good like the New Yorker looks nice.. Chrysler offered hemi options that Plymouth didn’t.
@@What.its.like. Yep. As far as those finmobiles, Exner did a nicer job than most. My main objection was how they used to slap the chrome on with a trowel! I had a friend years ago who has some '56 DeSotos. The ones he had all had the hemi...his unrestored 4 door sedan was a STRONG runner, and was fast!
WOULD YOU RATHER #1: I'd take the 1950 Plymouth. The 1951/52 styling (especially the grille) is a turn off for me. Plymouths were extremely well build, comfortable, roomy, high quality vehicles during this era. Looks were sacrificed for practicality. WOULD YOU RATHER #2: 1952 Chevy Bel Air. Great styling with solid mechanicals gives it the nod. Ford's styling wasn't my cup of tea in 1952. It got better in 1953 and 1954. While the 1952 Plymouth is well engineered, I can't get past the grille! In 1952 I was a car crazy 4-year old. At the time, looks were everything to me.
Not exactly the sexiest looking car I've seen from the 50s. However, Chrysler styling during this part of the 50s was less than inspiring. That said, it looks like a solid well made vehicle with plenty of room.
Right After WWII, (Chevy, Ford And Plymouth), ALL Looked VERY MUCH THE SAME In The Front Until 1948, With Fat Fenders And Humpy Hoods. But In 1949, Chevy And Ford Came Out With A Completely Newer Front End Redesign, With Plymouth Lagging A Year Behind. However Chevy And Plymouth Still Had Somewhat Humpy Hoods And Fenders Sticking Out At The Rear Into The 50's. Where As Ford Had FLAT Hoods And "SLAB" Sides With NO Fenders Sticking Out At All. Even Though Chevy Was A Sales Leader With Single Glass Windshields, (Eliminating The Split Windshields), And The First Piller-LESS "Hardtop" Bodies, They Retained Their OHV "Stovebolt" In Line Six For Several More Years. Plymouth Also Held On To Their Tried And True Flat Head In Line 6, But Kept Increasing The Horsepower Of It Until 1959. Ford On The Other Hand Was Already Into The V8 Engine Design Business From Many Years Earlie, Even Though It Was A Flathead Engine Too. But ALL Of Them Got Into The Horsepower Race With V8 OHV Engines Before The Mid 50's. However Either An Overdrive Standard Shift, Or An Automatic Transmission, Was Needed For Higher Sustained Highway Speeds, For Reducing Engine RPM's To Increase Gas Mileage And Reduce Engine Wear Out Time. But No Matter Which One You Purchased, You Got A LOT Of Chrome And Style Indeed. NOT Like Today's ANGRY And HIDEIOUS Looking Plastic Balls, That Virtually ALL Look The Same. How VERY SAD Indeed...
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Yeah buddy congratulations you got it and I’m really impressed =)
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I have a 52 Plymouth Cranbrook that I have owned since 2001. Lots of fun.
So cool and cool stories
It looks like Plymouth used the same tail lights from1950 to 1952. Although 1949 was the first year for that styling, the tail lights were at the top of the fenders in 49 only.
The Plymouth shown is rarer than the others !
Facts
Nice 1952 Plymouth and thanks for showing us around this car.
This was a hard car to find information on it I’m glad that you dig this episode =)
Really like the two tone paint job. Nice explanation of the traffic light prism. Thank you for the details.
=) I missed that opportunity and episodes passed so definitely wanted to explain what it did and I will definitely explain it going forward as well. The two-tone paint scheme on this car is very interesting where they decided to make the cut off for the lines. Glad you dig this episode
Thank you, Jay, for this awesome video!...I have 35mm slides of my parents on their honeymoon in Colorado in a new 1952 dawn grey Cranbrook…they had this car up until 1956 and I must have been a passenger up through my first birthday…I’ve researched the car before, but your video really brought it to life!!...Love the red on chrome Plymouth letters on the nose and the traffic light finder on the dash!!!...I learned so much more that I didn’t know about this car.
Thank you so much for the positive vibes
Great story thank you so much for sharing that awesome memory =)
This car was hard to research the information just as an out there
1988 got married with my Wonderfull wife , my best man Chris was my driver in my 641/2 mustang , cool , my weeding present was a 1959 chevy belair 283 3speed auto , red on read 4 doors nice shape . One month later Chris got married , well i was the best man , i gave him my 1950 dodge deluxe , flat head 6 , 3 on the three 4 doors , no rust, in nice condition , and i was the driver !. We Cruze in gravel back roads sipping wine & chaplain . Wow ! I had to share this with you . This car here that you are showing us is just a treat ! Take’s me back a few years back ! Thanks so much ! Well done , well done :)
Great story thank you so much for sharing that awesome memory =)
Another great presentation.
The Plymouth Belvedere is the little sister of the Dodge Diplomat.
One of these sold at Branson Auctions last year for $26,000, equipped with the optional dual-carb manifold.
The hood ornament is the 'Mayflower', which brought the 'Pilgrims' to America landing on 'Plymouth Rock'.
Glad you dig this episode awesome insight =)
This is another one of those vehicles that never looked that appealing to me, but one thing I really like about your reviews, is that after seeing all the details inside and out of a vehicle, I always develop a new perspective and appreciation for it! The paint scheme and the interior are really beautiful! I definitely prefer the dash design and steering wheel of this one, over the '50. It does look like it would be the perfect car for traveling and riding in, with all that space, and could fit all the luggage and stuff you'd need in that enormous trunk!! I think from this group of cars, I'd probably pick the Chevy.
Try to find things that most over look =)
That is what sets Jay apart from all other 'reviewers'.
Rear window works!
Sweet =)
Jay I have to tell you I have been watching you channel for about two years now. I try not to miss an episode. Each one is steller the fact that you show every detail of the car makes every car seam exciting to own. Thank you so much.
Thank you so much it really means the world it really does I really try and bring something to the table that hasn’t been brought =) and add things as time goes on the keep fresh
Rear window, backup lights. Great video and find!!
11:30 A lot of men (back in the day) would wear their hats to the dealership to make sure their head and their hat would fit in the car.
Now, practically nobody wears a hat, so the hat test isn't as important when picking a new car.
edit: Ooops, you covered exactly this fact at 15:26.
I was brought home from the hospital in a black, 4-door, maybe 1951 Plymouth sedan. It came to my parents from my grandfather. The only more things I remember was that my grandfather(an on-the -road salesman and inventor) installed an electric rear window wiper and when I thought I was helping my parents out, was playing gas station attendant, with the gas station attendant hat I was given, took the gas cap off and filled the gas tank full of water. Being very proud of myself, I told my mother what I had done. Luckily, she called my father who drained the gas tank when he got home from work.
My parents first new car was a 1960 Dodge dart. My best friend's mother drove an older fastback Plymouth. I remember it's massive radio grille and the large hood decoration of a sailing ship!
I'd love to have a 1951 Plymouth just like my parents had or one like my friend's mother drove. But, of the cars shown today, the '52 Chevy, for sure. It had the most modern engine of the 3 and a semi-automatic transmission.
Thank you so much for sharing that incredible memory what an awesome story. =)
You were lucky you told Mom about that and Dad was able to save it. Othewise, you might have received it for your 16th birthday with a card attached that said "You BROKE it, Junior. You FIX it." 😋
Chevy had a fully automatic Power Glide two speed transmission and Ford had a fully automatic Ford O Matic three speed. Plymouth did not get the two speed Power Flite Automatic until 1955.
@@danielulz1640 You are correct Sir! Also, Ford had a new OHV 'Mileage Maker' 6 cylinder debuting in '52.
@@danielulz1640 The Chevy Powerglide was a semi-automatic until 1953 when automatic shifting was added. The first series Powerglides operated like the Buick Dynaflow and low gear had to be manually accessed. Ford and Studebaker got a Borg-Warner based 3-speed fully automatic transmission in 1951. Even with those, low gear had to be manually accessed. The Studebaker version differed in that it had a lock-up torque converter. Studebaker used the same basic automatic through the end of Studebaker U.S. production in 1964. Studebaker added a 2nd gear quadrant on the Avanti, but it still shifted like a 2-speed automatic.
Ford used the basic Ford-O-Matic, as well as AMC, into the 1970's. Internal and external changes were made along the way which added shift quadrants and the Ford version became the Cruise-O-Matic in 1958, giving automatic shifts using all 3 forward gears.
Chevrolet discontinued the old cast-iron Powerglide in 1962. It introduced the new aluminum-cased Powerglide, still a 2-speed, and continued to use it into the 1970's.
My parents had a tan 1950 Plymouth two door identical to the one you show at 2:30. It was very reliable and well built, but living in the Northeast, it was prone to rust. it was always my dad's favorite car. They traded it in for a '55 Plymouth in 1960.
Thank you so much for sharing that amazing story it was a great memory I will totally know what it’s like living in the Northeast everything just rusts What’s crazy is Wyoming gets snow as well but they don’t put the nasty chemicals on the roads to the cars there’s a lot of cars over there or so I’m told p.
I had never heard of it, much less seen, that "saddle back" paint scheme. I think it's the most attractive thing about this car.
Hundred percent agree I love the Black roof over mint green that’s my favorite color combination this color works good too
Really cool all the details you notice
Thank you I really try and bring something to the table not offered anywhere else =)
Loving your channel! Thanks for all the hard work you put into it. The Belvedere's roofline paint scheme reminds me of Dark Helmet on Spaceballs!
Reminds me of a 66 Rambler Rogue. I wonder where AMC got the idea?
Thank you so much for the positive vibes, hahaha I never saw that before thank you for pointing that out
Hey Jay, I call it a rear window, I think that backlight sounds stupid. This Plymouth Belvedere is very nice with it's two tone gray over blue paint!!! The interior is beautiful too. I really like those sun visors, they add a special touch to the car. I don't know why but for the last couple of days I haven't been getting notified of your videos & my notifications are on, I check my phone often so I do see your videos!! Thanks for sharing this cool Plymouth!!! 👍👍🙂
Yes that’s exactly what I’m talking about somebody in the comment section told me to pick up a vocabulary I’m sorry I thesaurus an automotive thesaurus in the rear window is labeled as back light but whenever I cross reference that word they’re giving me all kinds of different words for actual back up lights and I was like this is stupid. I hate the word backlight I mentioned it in a different video I think it’s the dumbest word to describe the rear window and I’m so happy that you agree with me.
The video never made it last night it got posted early this morning I’m trying to be consistent at 4:30 but if you knew me in real life I’m late to everything. Lol
FWIW, I never heard it called "backlight" either. I always heard the trunk lid called "deck lid," but never heard "backlight" for rear window.
I'm not saying backlight is right or wrong, just that I'd never heard it.
Excellent. I drove a four door black Plymouth Cranbrook during my college days. Radio and heater - all tricked out, eh? I thought I remember it having something called Fluid Drive which was this weirdo transmission that you still had to shift and use a clutch part of the time. i HIGHLY DOUBT the 0-60 time because mine never could event get past 55:)
Great story thank you so much for sharing that awesome memory =)
The format that you have developed to present vehicles is one of the beast on the internet. Keep up the good work! Keep showing us the trunk, interior, back seat, etc....
Thank you so much it means the world if you go back and watch some of my older videos the format isn’t there and it gives a much deeper respect for how far it’s come.
Today’s episode on the Chrysler Royal the footage got messed up for the backseat it says that it recorded a minute 40 but only six seconds of it actually showed up is a common problem with a GoPro I need to figure out another camera that’s more reliable when you’re shooting all day with a GoPro sometimes it glitches.
@@What.its.like. You need a camera person. Your kids can work for free if you have any. I have watched your videos from the beginning. I am a fan of dashboards and the thought that went into the design. Your description of knobs and gauges is important. Your camera test is unique and serves a good purpose. Your audience, myself included, will probably never get the chance to enter or touch the vehicles you have access and I show cars as a hobby.
I like the first person camera angle plus I’ve found out the shot that I do are different than the shots I direct it’s not the same. Every sees things different and the way they approach is different even me, I can’t tell the same story the exact same twice. It will be the same plot and story just told different
Plymouth (not made in) Belvedere Illinois. The Belvidere Illinois Chrysler factory was opened in 1965.
The Plymouth Belvedere was not spelled the same as Belvidere Illinois. I thought that it was named for the town but it wasn’t.
Plymouth was at a definite competitive disadvantage in 1952 by not offering an automatic transmission. You could buy a 1952 Ford with Fordomatic or a '52 Chevrolet with Powerglide, both fully automatic with no clutch pedal. Customers could not get a fully automatic transmission on a Plymouth until mid-1954 model year, when Powerflite became available.
Very true
I think Plymouth cars build quality was very well done back in the day. I am old enough to remember seeing these cars everywhere. I also remember that in the early 70's Chrysler product build quality was found somewhat wanting. In the 90's their cars began to be better engineered cars. I had at one time a little 90 Plymouth Sundance, and it was a very sturdy nice little car. Its life ended when my wife was driving it and she was T-Boned by an elderly man who had no business driving. The car was destroyed, but because it was built so well my wif sustained only minor injury's.
I've always liked Chrysler products. In my family we have owned a 1977 Gran Fury, a 1984 LeBaron and a 1986 LeBaron GTS. My favourite model of recent years is the Chrysler 300, although it is presently in its final year.
Love your channel. Best yet of classic cars. Lots of useful info.
My choice? The 1952 Belvedere for sure. I'd drive it as an everyday car except in winter. Beauty of a car.
Thank you so much I really means a lot glad you dig this channel =)
I hadn't seen this model, but the big rear screen and two tone paint goes some way to helping the fairly dumpy styling of these cars. Mechanically, though these cars are really bulletproof. I checked on the claim that the overdrive was a new feature, as I was pretty sure that all Chrysler cars could be had with overdrives in the 1930's. Both views are correct, as the 1952 overdrive was a new type with electric actuation. Cheers.
As far as styling the 51 Ford but for performance the Chevy.
Thanks Jay, these were the cars of my childhood.
=)
I love the long sloping backs of this era. Streamlining was just coming in and was reflected from the early jet age. These cars looked like they were moving even though they were standing still. All they needed was more powerful engines and better mpg. I especially liked the absence of a B pillar making a cleaner look to the roof line. Great example of a survivor car that is also very rare. I would have chosen this over a Chevy or a Ford.
Totally agree =)
Another rare ride in super condition! I prefer the looks of the Chevy, although the Fleetline body was just so good looking!
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that is a beautiful car jay , always loved plymouths, Tell us about that modified just ahead and to the right ,please
I didn’t do that car I try to do cars that are as original as possible
was that last bit supposed to be foghorn leghorn??
Yeah I tried to copy it from something that was kind of mocking it then I went back and listen to the actual cartoon and I was laughing so hard because of the stuff that character said was just funny. Look at me when I’m talking at you lol 😂
The glass manufacturers did and may still refer the back glass as a light. Repair shops and the industry as well followed the same termology. Side glass was also referred to as light. The windshield or windscreen is only on the front.
Great video. The only thing you missed mentioning are the blue dots in the taillights!
They were a popular thing in the 50's.
At night the taillights looked almost the same. But... When the brakes were applied in a car with blue dots, the light would turn fuchsia! Try it sometime with your DSLR on a tripod. 😊
I bet this won't be the last car you will see with blue dots.
Awesome glad you dig this episode
I often wondered what that was for like what the appeal was, putting blue dots on lights
Also, if you go to a car cruise in the Summer, you will probably see what I mean. Dusk is probably the best time to photograph the effect.
"Rear window" works. Let's not go too British. Next we'll be hearing about the " boot" and the "bonnet"!
What surprises me is not having used this roof treatment to produce a New Yorker or Imperial coupe. That was the line that needed greater styling distinction.
Hahaha yeah
Great vid!!!!
Thank you =) glad you dig
3:26 My grandfather had a '50 Plymouth Business Coup. The dash looked EXACTLY like the one pictured.
That’s crazy the one that was pictured is coming up sometime in the future because I reviewed that car as well =)
TV trivia….Plymouth scored one of the top advertising coups in 1958. They sponsored the Lawrence Welk show as a sole advertiser for the 58-59 tv season. The show was known as the Lawrence Welk Plymouth Show. The Welk show was one of the biggest draws in tv ratings then. This gives you an idea how strong Plymouth was then.
Awesome thank you so much for sharing that trivia
LOL! I have a lot of leg room in the back of my Toyota Rav-4...but this is because my wife is very short, so when she drives, the front seat is as far forward as the seat rails will allow!
Front lighting. The small lights are called parking lights, and maybe included turn signals. Maybe not. First switch position brought these on with the taillights. Second position brought the headlights on and the parking lights went off. In 1967 corner side markers were mandated. For simplicity they were just wired to the parking lights, so from then parking lights stayed on with the headlights.
Awesome thank you so much for the corrections =)
They could NOT design a stylish, a classy, car today to save their lives....
When I become filthy rich, I'll buy myself a 1938 Cadillac like my granddad, or an early 30's Chrysler Imperial, maybe a Packard or Lincoln!
A Duesenberg would be taking it too far, right? 😉😎
Excellent video as always my friend! 🤜🏻🤛🏻🍻
I found the car that I want when I become rich if that ever happens they only built four of them though so the odds of me ever getting one or very
slim. 1934 packard aero coupe v12
www.supercars.net/blog/1934-packard-twelve-model-1106/
Thank you so much for the positive vibes =)
@@What.its.like.
That is....CLASSY! 😳😲😎
Wouldn't mind a Cord or a 1934 Auburn Boattail Speedster, poetry and art on wheels! 😍🥰😎
Always a pleasure....keep 'em videos coming!
Hopefully start digging into those cars this year they have an 810 Coffin cord at classic automotive problem is it’s like a hot rod and it’s not original I try to go for the most original cars I could find because the channel is what it’s like not what it could be like lol
@@What.its.like.
Should you ever come across that 1934 Packard Aero Coupe V12, the owners should start to worry!
I'm sure that you'll find some gems! 🤞🏻🤜🏻🤛🏻
@@Duececoupe ... Art on wheels ...
NAILED IT !!
Good job, but you have the model lineup in reverse pecking order. The 1952 Concord P-22 2-door (111-inch whb, 6-passengers) Sedan sold for $1,753. Next, the Cambridge Club Coupe for $1,784, then Cranbrook Club Coupe (both P-23, 6-passenger, 118.5-inch whb) at $1,884. The 1952 Cranbrook Belvedere as seen in your brochure image was a halo car, at $2,216.
Thank you for that correction =)
I like the Blue 1959 Plymouth Conv. On the drivers side of this car. That’s my scene. Waiting for Town Coupe Video.I had a ‘73 for a short period in Excellent condition to sell for a profit and I didn’t want to sell it. First guy that looked at it bought it without even driving it. Still preferred my 1973 Fleetwood Brougham to the Lincoln but that Lincoln had it’s qualities too.
I reviewed the 59 next to it that car was awesome you never see them
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I’m a huge Lincoln fan that Continental was pretty cool the only down or is the b roll didn’t turn out The way I wanted it to and I wasn’t feeling very good by that point everybody in my family got sick days prior and I decided to go out there anyway and I felt great until about halfway through the day I couldn’t stop coughing I ate two or three bags of cough drops that day
I like the details of this car. Regarding your comparison questions, I prefer the 52 Belvedere, even though back in the day, they both seemed stodgy.
Also, I would prefer the 52 Bel Aire to the Belvedere.
Hey, was that Fog Horn Leg Horn you were impersonating at the end? 😀
Yeah there was this show that ripped on that character and I was doing the impression from the show I wish I could remember the things that he said some of the stuff that he came up with that character did was just priceless, like look at me when I’m talking to you boy lol hahaha
@@What.its.like.
Hey boy, what's the idea jackin' that pot up under me? Jack? Pot? Ah huh, huh … jack pot, that's a joke son, don't ya get it?” Fog Horn Leg Horn.
Haha
I believe the term "back-light" is a British thing, like "wing" for "fender"... I've really only seen it in NA usage reletively recently. This generation of Plymouth was really a mostly cosmetic re-do of the previous series; its styling a bit of GM ( sculpted fenders/hood) in the front, and "breadbox"Ford ("pontoon" style) in the rear. As to the headroom: K.T. Keller, CEO of Chrysler, had decreed that he should be able to sit in any Chryco product wearing his fedora; supposedly saying "We build cars to sit in, not piss over"! Having had some experience of these engines, I can tell you that that Top Speed is VERY theoretical... travel in these cars was was allways "leisurely" at best. Cheers.
I honestly hate the term back light somebody suggested in the comment section that I got an automotive thesaurus and that’s with the word that describes the rear window. I think I’m just going to call it a rear window I don’t know what other term I can use the funny thing is I check another thesaurus for back light and I got a bunch of different words all pertaining to rear brake lights.
@@What.its.like. I'd go with Hitchcock on this one.
You have to remember, that in 1952, most maximum speed limits were 45 mph. Only a few new highways had a speed limit of 50.
Never heard the term "back light" used in Britain. We call them rear windows.
Great vid. If you get a chance you should watch the 1952 movie “Hitchhiker “. I’m sure there was a plot but to me it’s about driving a then New Plymouth across the desert. If you look closely there were two different cars used.
I’ll have to see if I can find that movie glad you dig this episode =)
The Plymouth Belvedere, Cranbrook and Cambridge cars were and will always be equal to the best offerings by Ford and Chevrolet for 1952. That flathead six although underpowered, was very torquey and smooth.
Thank you so much for sharing that insight =)
The Plymouth is not really a very good looking or stylish car overall. However, I did not know Plymouth had a hardtop model in 1952. That makes this a pretty cool car as it has a nice roofline profile, let down by its pontoon rear fenders, trunk and taillights.
I looked up the color chart on this car. That color combination or one very close to it was an actual available trim combination. Plymouth had over 15 different color choices. That kind of surprises me because almost every Plymouth, dodge or Chrysler from this period seems to be wearing a grey or minty green paint color. Never see colors from the bright side of the color chart.
Did Plymouth call it "light elephant grey?" 😉
I’m not sure what Plymouth called the gray color =)
The correct, accepted term for "back lite" is REAR WINDOW. The front window is the windshield. The side windows are side windows.
Sweet =) thank you so much for that
Of the choices, I would prefer the 1950 round gauges--they are easier to acclimate to. I once had a job where I had to drive a LOT of different cars, and standard round gauges were easier to read immediately than stylized unique gauges with their own individual quirks. The 1950 Special Deluxe over the 1952 Belvedere, with more room and four doors and better wind sealing. The 1952 Ford Victoria, with the new wide body and classic flathead V-8 engine. Plymouth's hood ornament was a stylized sailing ship, after the Mayflower which made a landing at Plymouth rock. (The steering wheel hub also had a sailing ship.) The purpose of the old hood ornaments was to protect the car's finish from greasy mechanics' hands. Much later, when Mercedes introduced a hood ornament on a spring mounting to protect the ornament itself, that defeated the original purpose. But Detroit had to ape Mercedes, which got praised for attention to detail, and so American cars got the same type of hood ornament mounting. But by then, finishes had improved.
Thank you so much for sharing all that information and insight I really appreciate it also thank you so much for sharing the memories from that story =)
I think Chrysler Corp offerings were really falling behind style-wise to Ford and GM. It wasn't until the mid to later 1950's when they flew ahead with "The Forward Look". Then they became the leaders.
I do like how they 2-toned the back end of the car and brought it on the trunk.
Overall, the early 1950's car styling was so "Blah" compared to what happened in 1955 with some exceptions here and there, like the 1953 Studebakers, 1952 Ford, and a few others.
I'd love to see that cream colored 1938 (?) Packard in front of this car that you can see through the windshield.
I'd also like to see one of those traffic light finders in operation. Hopefully in the future you can take a car with one installed on a road trip.
I didn’t do that packard going to cover a friends in the spring hopefully =)
@@What.its.like. Road test in the works?
Yes =) he has a jeepster as well
@@What.its.like. Cool!
“Light” is a body shop term. Backlight, sidelight… now people are calling it a “rear windshield”.
The '52 had a Briggs body, which was known for high quality. Chrysler bought the bodies from Briggs, then Walter Briggs died in 1952 and the heirs decided to sell the company to Chrysler, which didn't know how to manage the operation. Briggs also built bodies for Ford , Packard and other manufacturers. When Chrysler took ownership the former Briggs body plants lost those other contracts, they attempted to cut costs and the quality of Dodge and Plymouth bodies declined. Eventually Chrysler decided to assemble the bodies in the final assembly plant as the "unibody".
Awesome information thank you so much for sharing that I never knew Chrysler owned Briggs
Interesting chanel. You "dare" cranking windows and showing space in both back and rear seats. Im not interested to see when some "testers" turning the aftermarket radio on and off and brifly go over the dash.
Greatings from Sweden.
I really try and bring something that nobody else brings, I try to go over all of the information as if you’re looking to buy these cars because a lot of times I was looking for cars and I couldn’t find any information pertaining to the vehicle this channel gives you all the information that you could ever want except for and I wish that I could get it to this point talk about different oils used talk about different running temperatures some of the older episodes have that information but it’s going to vary depending on what part of the world do you live in.
In the comparison with the '51, you're comparing a hardtop with a post car. That's why the "windows seem shorter". Re: "backlight"...that is the correct engineering term for the rear window glass. If someone gets confused about that, it's because they don't know what the word means, not because there's any confusion at all among people who care about cars.
That’s very true I never thought of a sedan being taller very interesting
We hade a1952 Chevy deluxe two tone with fender skirts
I got my license in 1955, and never heard the rear window referred to as a "backlight". I had a 51 like this one, and it was a jewel.($200) Far superior to my 52 Chevy, and only surpassed, in my opinion, by my 1973 Peugeot 504.
We have to feature some Peugeots on here eventually Great story
Somebody suggested that I got an automotive thesaurus because he didn’t like some of the terms that I used it inside that said that the rear window is called the back light but I honestly think that’s the stupidest definition for the rear window anybody could give..
@@What.its.like. "Backlight" is the correct terminology. [A "light" is an opening through which day (natural) light may enter. The term "light" is also used in architecture as the designation for a window in a door or along side a door (a sidelight).] BTW, front "running lights" on automobiles did not come into use until the 1968 MY when they were mandated by regulation. Before then, they were called "parking lights" and were not illuminated when the headlamps were on. Turn-signals did not became a feature until the forties. They, along with reversing lamps (back-up lights), also became standard in 1968. Before then, they were standard only on the top trim lines but usually were available as an option on lower trim lines.
P.S. The light-source which most people think of as a light-bulb is correctly a "lamp." The object which most think of as a lamp is correctly a "'portable' lighting fixture." When a light-source burns out, the action of replacing it is "re-lamping."
1952 Belvedere all the way for me
It’s funny that at the beginning of the video I thought the Plymouth looked a lot like a Chevy, then at 1:30 you showed the both cars saying the very same thing!
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Ha! Sounds like you went way way back for that song! Even I'm not old enough for that one! My rathers would be not to have any of those cars. If it was gifted, I would sell it for cold hard cash! Good job as always Jay, but early 50's is my least favorite era.
Believe it or not that song is from the 60s lol it might be from my favorite band that’s a pretty big hint =) out of the scenarios I would take the Vicki hard top in a heartbeat with a six cylinder.. I love that era afford they are an optical illusion tons of space in that car and they look good too
"Backlite" refers to the rear glass - "rear light" refer to the lights. That said? Call em what ever you'd like, we get it. PS. A lot of cars looked similar in 1952. Ford took the lead in new styling. My uncle had one of these. Sun visor prism. Choice 1? 52 Belvedere. and Choice 2? 52 Ford.
K. T. Keller Chrysler president: He insisted that a man should be able to comfortably wear a hat in a Chrysler product.
💯 agree =)
Yeah that trunk is big. Just think of all the people you could sneak to a drive in movie!
I was thinking the same I said in the video but cut that put one that my wife and daughter could sit back there as well very spacious
@@What.its.like. 🤣
Daddy had a 52 Chevy Styleline De Luxe two door sedan, so I would probably go with the Bel Air, but the Victoria is a much more modern car.
The 52 Ford. It has a more modern lower hood.
I think the '52 Be!verses has more practical styling and better gas mileage.
I would take the 1952 Ford because it was a fresh design for the year and looks more modern and inspired than the 1952 Chevy which is a styling "Upgrade" from what we saw in 1949 and the Plymouth which looks like a re-interpretation of the 1949 Chevy design.
💯 agree I’d take a 52 ford with a ohv six
@@What.its.like. Or with the V8.
I would rather have:
a. The '52 Belvedere.
b. The Ford
Even though I am impressed with this car, I'm still a Ford guy.
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These cars were stodgy an appearance but made up for it in quality, everything in that car had a quality feel
Would you rather #1: I'd take the 50, for sentimental reasons (grandfather's car).
Would you rather #2: I think I'd take the Ford in that matchup.
I would take the Ford hands-down I think 52 Ford is a vastly underrated car I would take it with a six cylinder =)
less flashy than the '52, I by far prefer the «,50 SpecialDeluxe for its practical design, the instruments are far easier to look at.
Sweet =)
Does anybody happen to know how many 1950 Plymouths had the Overdrive Option?
Between the Plymouth Belvedere, Chevrolet Belair and Ford Crown Victoria, my rank for style is 3 = Plymouth, 2 = Ford and 1 equals Chevrolet. But all 3 of these cars are a long way down the list from the best looking American cars of 1952. Even in the low to mid price field.
rear window
Thank you
This car is kind of emblematic of my issue with most if not all '51-'54 MoPar products... It's not bad looking by any means, but it just looks too much like GM products - an inferior, stodgy version thereof. That color scheme is interesting by itself, but does little to dispel this impression. I believe that if someone was choosing between this car and the Bel Air based on styling alone, Bel Air would've been the obvious choice. The Plymouth just looks as if it tries so hard to imitate it. Of course, it still could be a viable option based on its more practical virtues, like - more rear legroom. '49 & '50 Plymouth was stodgy as well, all right - but at least it was completely honest about it.
As far as I get it - for '51 Chrysler wanted to add some GM "sauce", like flatter and more sloping hood, more body sculpting and a panoramic backlight, to "spice up" its lineup - but with somewhat mixed results because all of it was applied to largely the same '49 body shell. All that said - I'm generally a Ford guy if we are talking about '52-54 model years, so gimme a Crestline Victoria any day.
Thank you so much for sharing all of that insight highly appreciate it
I am also a huge fan of the 50 to 354 Fords =)
Most people refer to the rear window as BACKGLASS. These cars from Chrysler were pretty junky and it continued until today. Ask me why Chrysler filed for bankruptcy twice. Dont get me wrong this example is outstanding. These early mopar could hardly get out of their own way.
Exner changed Chrysler.. and they went bankrupt recently and I think it was 3 times now lol
You're comparing a 2-door sedan and a newer 2-door hard top.
two different cars.
There was also the Dodge Diplomat of the same era.
Both were the 'halo' cars for Plymouth and Dodge.
1950 didn’t have a hardtop offering and 51 was basically the same car
@@What.its.like. ...as I said.
I just call it a rear window or rear windshield because "backlight" sounds like a light fixture, not a body part. The similarities are NUTS! If I had $100.00 for every dumb choice made on this planet, I'd already have 1 of each model of any car ever made by manufacturers, regardless of whether they're still in business or not.
I concur =)
I thought the headliner material was.called mohair.
It’s possible that this one was redone it did not feel like mohair
I think I like the 1950 better. Better looking top.
I reviewed the 50 as well it’s coming not totally sure when =)
52 Plymouth Belvedere.
The problem is there was a styling drought during the early 50s. They all just look so stodgy uninspiring. I can understand why by mid-decade, people wanted something a little flashy. Kinda went overboard with that! LOL!
Virgil Exner made Chrysler what it was in the 50s this was before that Plymouth Dodge Chrysler they all looked very stodgy not to see that the Chrysler products didn’t look good like the New Yorker looks nice.. Chrysler offered hemi options that Plymouth didn’t.
@@What.its.like. Yep. As far as those finmobiles, Exner did a nicer job than most. My main objection was how they used to slap the chrome on with a trowel! I had a friend years ago who has some '56 DeSotos. The ones he had all had the hemi...his unrestored 4 door sedan was a STRONG runner, and was fast!
Please gift wrap and deliver it to my front door.
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Use reverse light
The 52 Belvedere, the 52 Vickie
I totally agree the 52 Vicky has a better look in my opinion =)
5 2 Ford or Chevy or 50 Plymouth.
WOULD YOU RATHER #1: I'd take the 1950 Plymouth. The 1951/52 styling (especially the grille) is a turn off for me. Plymouths were extremely well build, comfortable, roomy, high quality vehicles during this era. Looks were sacrificed for practicality.
WOULD YOU RATHER #2: 1952 Chevy Bel Air. Great styling with solid mechanicals gives it the nod. Ford's styling wasn't my cup of tea in 1952. It got better in 1953 and 1954. While the 1952 Plymouth is well engineered, I can't get past the grille!
In 1952 I was a car crazy 4-year old. At the time, looks were everything to me.
Thank you so much for sharing sharing all that insight and your choices =)
Q1 Belvedere / Q2 Victoria
doors all taller so the car looks lowered,newer cars do that that so the car looks it's chopped off roof,
Mr.Sandman?
No it’s early 60s song
1952 Belvedere.
1952 Belvedere.
Sweet choices =)
Not exactly the sexiest looking car I've seen from the 50s. However, Chrysler styling during this part of the 50s was less than inspiring. That said, it looks like a solid well made vehicle with plenty of room.
It is a stodgy styled car with tons of space
52 ford crown vic !
I totally 100% agree 52 Ford they are an optical illusion it’s a really big car I need to find a Victoria to review =)
😅 I got given a Belvedere so my choice has been made up
Did you/ do you like that Belvedere
52
Dunno why but that color scheme reminds me of a taxi
Haha yeah now that you mention it I see it as well
Right After WWII, (Chevy, Ford And Plymouth), ALL Looked VERY MUCH THE SAME In The Front Until 1948, With Fat Fenders And Humpy Hoods. But In 1949, Chevy And Ford Came Out With A Completely Newer Front End Redesign, With Plymouth Lagging A Year Behind. However Chevy And Plymouth Still Had Somewhat Humpy Hoods And Fenders Sticking Out At The Rear Into The 50's. Where As Ford Had FLAT Hoods And "SLAB" Sides With NO Fenders Sticking Out At All. Even Though Chevy Was A Sales Leader With Single Glass Windshields, (Eliminating The Split Windshields), And The First Piller-LESS "Hardtop" Bodies, They Retained Their OHV "Stovebolt" In Line Six For Several More Years. Plymouth Also Held On To Their Tried And True Flat Head In Line 6, But Kept Increasing The Horsepower Of It Until 1959. Ford On The Other Hand Was Already Into The V8 Engine Design Business From Many Years Earlie, Even Though It Was A Flathead Engine Too. But ALL Of Them Got Into The Horsepower Race With V8 OHV Engines Before The Mid 50's. However Either An Overdrive Standard Shift, Or An Automatic Transmission, Was Needed For Higher Sustained Highway Speeds, For Reducing Engine RPM's To Increase Gas Mileage And Reduce Engine Wear Out Time. But No Matter Which One You Purchased, You Got A LOT Of Chrome And Style Indeed. NOT Like Today's ANGRY And HIDEIOUS Looking Plastic Balls, That Virtually ALL Look The Same. How VERY SAD Indeed...
Sorry, but is that in English?
Thank you so much for sharing all that insight =)