HOT TOYS KENOBI DARTH VADER VS ROTJ DARTH VADER | THIS OR THAT...OR BOTH?
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- Опубликовано: 21 дек 2023
- Welcome back to another THIS OR THAT video! Today I am trying to decide what Hot Toys Vader I want vs NEED! HELP!!!
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Apologies!!! Sebastian Shaw is the face of Vader, not David Prouse!!! Thanks to a comment for highlighting this error!! My bad folks 😅😅
To be honest, if I made a mistake that bad, I would just delete the video and re-record it.
Oh I see! How often do you make videos? This one took me 4 hours to make 🤷♂️ but appreciate the view and you supporting the channel either way
Hah no someone else. Forgot it was David in costume for presence but sebastian face. Shit happens. Everyone else didn't care lol that wasn't really the point of the video and this one took 4 hours to make so I wasn't gonna re record it
@@TheBenThomasShow To answer your question, I've been working in media for 19 years, won 28 awards. At one point I had a youtube channel for 11 years, 6 years as a full time job and made videos daily that also took about 4 hours and my most popular videos have 100k - 361k views. I also ran 6 RUclips channels in my previous job. That being said, I was merely trying to give you some constructive advice based on experience. I meant no offense. Wishing you all the best with your channel 👍
@TALON80s wow very impressive! I just do this for fun, not for a career. The point of the video was more about what's the cooler figure to buy. I hate making mistakes hah but it took so long to make, so hopefully people still enjoyed it just the same! No offense taken! Hope you have a happy Christmas and holiday as well!
ROTJ Vader for me.
Can’t beat a classic.
Love to see it!!!
I originally ordered the Obi-one Darth but canceled it as soon as Rotj announced. It just hits home. It brought up memories when my dad took me and my brother to see the movie in the theater release. It has so much nostalgia and meaning of a father saving his son. Plus, lol if I bought obi version I would want all of the inquisitors.
Love this story and a great reason as well!! Thanks for sharing and watching!! Appreciate the channel support!
Sebastian Shaw is iconic, especially for precisely 2 minutes of screen time. I absolutely love it. However, that split helmet version is too wicked awesome to pass up. I'm all in on Hayden. I may pick up the Sebastian Shaw version as well just to have the best of both worlds but we'll probably never see a split helmet design ever again. Great video, thanks for sharing!
Great comment also bud!! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!!! Both are so good hah
I’m all about the original trilogy but I have zero desire to display him without his helmet. The Kenobi one just looks cool, so I went with that one
Totally makes sense! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!
I'm going to just put Hot toys ROTJ vader headsculpt in Obi wan Vader body ❤
Oh random that's the first I've heard that! Let me know how that works out! Thanks for watching and supporting the show!
You keep calling it Dave Prowse in the Return of the Jedi.. .. it’s not Dave it’s Sebastian Shaw head , That was the man when the Helmet was off..
Oo thank you so much!! I have no idea how I mixed that up!! Appreciate the call out good sir! Thanks for watching ether way
I preordered the Kenobi Vader first then canceled it when I saw the ROTJ. But later realized that Hot Toys may never remake the damaged Vader helmet from the Kenobi show so I preordered it again after regretting cancelling it. So I did both.
Gonna be such a sick collection! Good call!! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel !!
Respect, respect
I ended up going with kenobi Vader deluxe because it comes with both versions, I love rotj and I probably watched it 100 times as a kid but Luke has always been my favourite and I’ve never had that close of an eye for vaders armour, the clean armour from kenobi will work for me for og trilogy and I just can’t skip that cut headsculpt
I ordered both. I have the CW Anakin and ESB Vader. I also preordered the young Anakin. He is one of my favorites. I hope to get the New Hope and Darkside Anakin at some point as well. Heck, I would even get kid Anni if they released him.
Deecent!!! Big fan! Love to see it!! Thanks for watching and supporting the show good sir!!
Just get both, that’s what I’m doing. But if you could only get one, it would be the ROTJ version all the way!!!
Just one for me I think!!! Thanks for watching!
There are two Vader moments I need in my collection. The moment he reveals he’s Luke Skywalker’s father from ESB, and Vader’s redemption from RotJ. It’s the first time we see who’s under the mask. We expect to see a face just as aggressive under the mask. But instead we see the face of a tired, disfigured, defeated man. And at that point we understand what the dark side has taken from him. It’s a powerful moment, and one I need in my collection.
Yass love this break down!!! Couldn't agree more! Just got the ESB and love it can't wait for ROTJ. Thanks for watching bud!!
@@TheBenThomasShow nice! Just saw you on collecting weekly, you need to keep both Vaders in your collection! One masked, one unmasked!
Well, there's only one way to display the Sébastien shaw head, and that's sitting down on the floor. Kenobi vader can also work with Ahsoka...if you seen rebels?
I'm only half way through rebels but have been enjoying it alot so far!! Thanks for watching!
I'm glad I don't have this dilemma haha. I am a prequel fanboy. Hayden is my Vader. I have to admit though, that OT Vader with the headsculpt looks phenomenal. Sorry I couldn't be of more help lol! Hope you make the best choice for you and your collection
Haha thanks buddy!!
Great video & a choice I also had to make, I do not have the space or funds for both.
I opted for the Return of the Jedi Vader as the original trilogy is what I grew up on & for me that is the most iconic representation of Darth Vader.
While I do love the Obi Wan version I am very happy with the pre order choice I have made and cannot wait to get my first Hot Toys Vader!
Very excited for you!! They are addictive once you have one though so stay focused on the direction of your collection and enjoy each piece for what it brings to the table for you! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!!
this was deep
I’m thinking about getting ROTJ Vader, it’s going to be my first hot toys figure too! And I’m already planning on getting the Luke figure from the mandalorian season 2 finale! I love the idea of the hooded Luke facing off against Vader on my shelf!
Great choices!!! I think you'll be very pleased with both of them! Look forward to hearing what you think! Thanks for watching and supporting the show!!
I love Vader as a character, I admire the redemption scene from rotj. I understand nostalgia and everything, BUT I choose the Kenobi Vader any day of the week, that design of the suit is more similar to the revenge of the sith suit when Darth Vader actually ,,born” and that’s my favourite design for Vader. And that battle damaged helmet tho…
Oo great points all around!! Thanks for watching and supporting the show!
I had this internal debate before making the pre-order. I still kinda do. Ultimately I chose ROTJ Vader baca use it’s from OT but I acknowledge that the fractured helmet with the Anakin exposure looks pretty awesome and different than most Vader figures.
Ya totally but I don't think I can justify both hah
@@TheBenThomasShow oh yeah. Same here.
When inart comes with their batman I would like to hear your thoughts which should you buy Inart vs HT. If you research the suit prop and make your input based there it would be a hell of a video. For me the ROTF Vader is the way to go.
I absolutely will once the inart final is released. It would be a tad unfair to compare the prototype to the Hot Toys final product. Even with Joker there were subtle changes made from proto to final. But the moment those inart final pics go up! I'll jump on it! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!!
ROTJ is a much more imposing figure with the oversized shoulders, helmet and armor.
I also love the armor!! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!!
I have the ANH 2.0, Rogue One, and ESB Vaders by Hot Toys, along with the Sideshow ROTJ 2.0 Vader. I love them all, and I will continue to add more to the collection. So hard to pick one over the other between the Hot Toys Obi-Wan, and ROTJ Vaders. Both figures look great.
All great thoughts!!! Best part of collecting is having things you love! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!!
First of all: both figures are awesome. And I can only speak for myself here. I grew up with the Original Trilogy. So there was no question for me as to which version should represent Vader for me.
Love to see it bud!! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!!
Both, the Kenobi series svcks but the battle damage helmet is iconic, we saw it before in comics Lucas canon, the other one is iconic too, from the movie the return of the Jedi
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Definitely going with the ROTJ Vader because of the Sebastian Shaw headsculpt. I have the ANH Vader which will be my masked Vader and the ROTJ Vader will be my unmasked Vader.
Great call!!! Thanks for the comment and for supporting the channel!!
@@TheBenThomasShow absolutely! Looking forward to your thoughts on the EXO-6 Data releasing this week 🙂
Hopefully I'll have it in hand pretty quick!
Ive got the Empire Vader. Sure it'd be nice to have these other 2 but how many Vaders do you need?? I want ALL the Luke Skywalkers but theres good reason for that since he had so many different looks. That said ... Go for the ROTJ Vader!
Hah thanks for the help bud!! And for watching!!
For me, Haden is Anakin! So it’s the KenobiVader for me…👌
Great choice!! Thanks for watching and supporting the show!!!
i bought the kenobi vader, 3 days ago, how long should it take to arrive ? i live in aus btw
Where did you buy it from?
@@TheBenThomasShow SANITY, an austrlian collector online store
Unfortunately you will have to contact them. Every store waits for inventory from Hong Kong so if they didn't have it in stock yet, it could definitely take a while
I would have both 😂
Haha not helpful but awesome :)
ROTJ.. can't beat the classics
Totally!! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!!
Going with rotj. To me that maskless head takes it. Also it’s the taller of the two. I want my vader large and in charge
Heck ya makes sense!! Thanks for watching and supporting the show also!
@@TheBenThomasShow more than welcome Ben
It’s return of Jedi all the way
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ROTJ is too iconic
Agreed!!! Thanks for tuning in!
Classic Vader for sure
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I’m keeping my obi-Wan Vader on order I thinks it’s the overall better fig.
Heck ya!!
Just get them. Both are unique in their own way.
Agreed! Both on order hah thanks for tuning in and supporting the show!!
The question should be; How many ROTJ Vader’s do you pick up? One for the headsculpt, one for the helmet etc 👍
Noo for me I'm gonna keep my empire strikes back and display rotj without the helmet :) thanks for watching and supporting the channel
I’ll have to get one and do and unboxing videos on it 🎉
1000% would love to see it!!!
Kenobi Vader ended up being my only Vader. I just love that scene where he tells Obi-wan that he killed Anakin. I prefer how his helmet looks in the Kenobi version. RoTJ Vader still looks great.
Love it! If that one hit home for you, that's the most important thing! And visually it's a beautiful piece! Thanks for watching and supporting the show!!
I already have the Sideshow limited ROTJ vader already so a Shaw headsculpt is already in my collection, along with a ROTJ Luke. For me the Obi Wan show Vader and Obi-Wan are just perfect together too. New vader AND old vader 💪
Heck ya dude that's gonna be a great display! Thanks for the comment and for watching / supporting the show!
@@TheBenThomasShow absolutely! Thanks for the reply! I JUST found your channel the other day and love it!
Both for me
Flex!! Ha love to see it!
The answer is clear....both
Hah that's what I ended up doing! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!!
Ben...Ben...Ben...Ben...how often are we going to do this "this or that" dance? Just get both!
Confession: when I first saw his face revealed in the theatre, my initial reaction was "WTF! Jonathan Winters is Darth Vader!"
Haha omg amazing
Empire strikes back, Vader at his peak, between ESB and ROTJ, Vader was doubting himself, conflicted, you could see it when Luke was rescued by Leia and Luke goes Father and Vader goes son, he was slipping back to the light, by the time of ROTJ he was almost 50/50, Luke said it himself, i feel the conflict within you let go of your hate! so yeah in ESB he was ready to chop luke in half, no doubts no hesitation.
The Sebastian Shaw Vader is definitely more iconic and impactful but people are really drawn to the battle damaged version. Hard to say. For me, I’d probably get the ROTJ version just because it’s so impactful. Plus Kenobi was ass lol.
Haha love this comment! Well said good sir! Thanks for tuning in!
@@TheBenThomasShow welcome brother 🫡
Get both
Hah 😅😅 I'll try!! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!
I don’t really understand the confusion here. The suits are 90% the same. The only question to ask is: which one has the better accessories and if you want a head sculpt. Bc if you put these on your shelf you wouldn’t know the difference between Jedi or Kenobi hot toys
I wouldn't call it confusion. The folks who are die hard star wars fans or Vader fans 100% know the difference between the suits. Guys I stream with like collecting weekly have even done extensive comparisons between them 🤷♂️ however I also agree that if you can't tell the difference, the it's who's face and accessories would you want to display! Which would you choose? Have you had any Vaders? Thanks for watching and supporting the channel
@@TheBenThomasShow could you tell me some of the differences between the two? I can’t see it.
Mask eye shape is different (sad eye look on mask) , button colours, cod piece is larger on obi version shoulder armor is larger on ROTJ. Also obi version has a Saber holster on the belt where rotj does not. Lastly obi version has subtley longer mask to accommodate the head underneath making it appear taller and more narrow where as rotj does not have that look as elongation of the mask wasn't needed. Hope that helps
@@TheBenThomasShow thank you but do you think those differences are noticeable enough to matter enough to warrant uncertainty on which to buy? Assuming you don’t care about the accessories or head sculpt.
I feel like you didn't watch the video if you're asking me this question. I address both which headsculpt I like more and which one I like the accessories more. You could say the same about half the iron men that exist. Some look so similar, why have multiple suits? The question comes down to which movie representation or show representation do you like most. I liked both. And both figures have wins and drawbacks. You asked for the differences. I'd say those are enough to warrant the question. And with the nearly 70 comments below, other collector opinions might help you as well
I don't like the sad puppy dog eyes on the Jedi version of the Vader helmet. I prefer the rogue one/new hope helmet which the Kenobi show Vader is closer to. So for me its the Kenobi Vader. Empire is my favourite Vader scenes but not my favourite Vader helmet.
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Rotj figure represents a scene that undeniably the more iconic. However, I think hot toys is gonna miss the mark with the helmet sculpt just like they did with ESB vader. The eyes were angled in a way that really subtracts from the vader look, and that looks to be the same for this rotj vader. From what we’ve seen from available displays, the kenobi vader undamaged sculpt looks absolutely perfect.
I have the esb vader and love it but def see what you mean!! Great comment! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel also!!
It seems to me that the lenses have a slight V shape that look cool but don't match with the original prop. The ROTJ otherwise looks accurate to me, much better than the Hot Toys Vaders we had so far. I also hope they make both taller since Hot Toys tend to make them slightly shorter than they should be. IMO, the Sideshow Vader 2019 has the right height.
@therealfrananon great thoughts and comments! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!!
The ONLY two things keeping me from fully committing to the Kenobi Deluxe right now is the latge crotch protector on the Kenobi version, and the redemption arc behind the ROTJ version.
I think in the end though, Kebobi would win for me. However classic the redemption Vader is, it will look weird to pose him with that removed helmet standing up. If we're honest we both know we will display Vader in a powerfull stance with his helmet on, damaged or not. And a powerfull, angry and hatefull Vader is the one from Kenobi. Vader is wasted potential, conflict, rage, regret, hatret and power. Yes he is redeemed in the end and that makes him interesting, but when we think Vader we think of him for his menacing presence and conflicted Jedi heart. For that, the Kenobi (Hayden) one wins for me. When you switch out the non-damaged pieces on the Kenobi one, you could even argue him away as the ROTJ version too, minus the crotch. And who knows, you can find the unhelmeted headsculpt in the aftermarket one day.
All great points!!! Thanks for the well thought out comment as well!! Great food for thought! Thanks for also watching the show and supporting the channel 🍻
@@TheBenThomasShow My pleasure :) About an hour ago I made the choice and put my pre order through for the Kenobi Vader. I have no regrets. My biggest fear is the large crotch piece, but I think when the figure is here in it's full form it'll be less jarring.
In terms of justifying this choice I see this Vader seperate from the Kenobi Series itself. Like I said, when I picture Vader I see a menacing, powerfull, yet conflicted presence. And that is without a doubt best represented by what we get from the Kenobi Vader now. The Deluxe extra's are just amazing. You can choose between damaged Hayden or full strength Vader. In the end, every specific movie version carries a certain important line of dialogue or an impactfull moment. But Kenobi Vader for me, resembles a much broader concept: that of how I picture Vader in my head. Menacing, conflicted, hatefull and strong.
@marinko6450 I think you will love it!!! Great call!!
I can only speak from being a Vader fan. I got them all in 1/6 Hot Toys. Love them all.
Fleeeeexxxxxxx haha love it :) thanks for watching! Tough nut crew!!!!
very hard to pick tbh but as a huge vader fan i have both versions on preorder this year will be great as a hot toys collector
1000% well said! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel
Older Vader
Love to see it!! Thanks for watching l!
I'm thinking of buying the ROTJ Vader if I do it will be the first hot toys I ever buy. I'm not sure however since I know the vaders suit flakes due to the pleather. I will have to see how I feel closer t o release if its still available.
Depends on your climate as well. I've never had and peeling issues with my ESB one! Knock on wood anyways! But for a first Hot Toy it would be epic asf! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!
@@TheBenThomasShow I live in the UK so it gets pretty cold in winter and quite humid in summer. I do know the humidity can cause issues with it so I'll just have to decide closer to the time.
Ben Thomas is so hot.
Hah oh well thank you!! Appreciate you watching and supporting the channel as well!!
Anytime😊
Tbh i go with the kenobi vader just bcuz i feel like that last dual scene was probably the most memorable scene of all starwars now just bcuz of how sad it was it really touched everyone
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I will always want the Hayden Vader. To me all the rest blur together.
Makes sense!!
They both look cool but Hayden man… just an iconic character by an iconic actor who played anakin the way only he could
So happy Hayden is finally getting the praises he deserved. He got so much hate back in the day. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel also!!!
Kenobi Darth Vader is not canon.
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I would get the ROTJ Vader because I like that interpretation better but I don’t think hot toys did a good enough job on it, so I got kenobi Vader.
The tailoring for that figure honestly looks like one of the worst jobs hot toys has done for a Vader. I know he looks a little bigger in that movie, but hot toys over compensated by making all of his clothes bigger and puffier and it just looks really bad to me. Sculpt is nice though.
Ahh thats fair!! Makes sense! I don't think you'll be disappointed!! Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!!
*Kenobi version 100%*
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People talk about how classic OT is and all that. For me, it's about when did he do the coolest shit? The OT lightsaber fights, Vader's in particular, were mid. They just were.
In the Kenobi series, VADER WAS A SHEER FORCE. He was so much more menacing than he was in the trilogy. It's prime Vader...the Emperor hadn't completely neutered him yet...he still had his own motivations, his own desires. And you could see that in the way he handled himself. ROTJ is "time to make the donuts" Vader. He's just way cooler in the Kenobi series.
All great points good sir!!! Thanks for tuning in and giving your thoughts! Always appreciated 🤙
You lost a potential follower for that prowse/shaw mixup. Just delete the video.
Sorry you feel that way! Definitely a mix up. However, the video will stay up. Thanks for tuning in either way.
Kenobi! Absolutely abysmal television, but I'm a Hayden fan 😉
Love to see it!!