It was actually a Pakistani BBC Correspondent Anthony Masceranas who FIRST broke the Bangladesh 🇧🇩 Genocide story to the World 🌎. The man had to escape with his Family to UK where lived the rest of his life and died an unsung hero in 1986.
Marcenehas was not a BBC reporter he was morning news Karachi reporter. His report was published in Sunday times London on June 11 1971 in which described atrocities committed by Pakistani army as well as atrocities committed by bengalis and mukti bahinis against Non bengalis which is hardly ever mentioned
Mark Tally was a house hold Name during the liberation war in Bangladesh..we used to wait to hear whole day to hear the report of mark tally...during those dark days mark tally was our lifeline ...mark tally is a great witness of rise and fall of so many events in Indian sub-continent
So sad to hear Mark voice becoming to sound slurry due to old age now doubt. He always was so clear in his speech in his younger days. Also speaks perfect Hindi/Urdu. The guys a living legend.
Very professional , beautiful and warm touching interview. Thank u jyoti mam. 👍🏻👏🏻 This is journalism of the highest quality, no entertainment and no bullshit around only pure journalism.
How nice to hear Mark Tully again, always an icon to me. Few can combine journalism with compassion and humaneness like Mark has always done. An exceedingly warm person behind the uncompromising journalist. As usual, his narrative is objective as much as it is humane, warm and sensitive. Harcharan Bains, Chandigarh
We tend to type cast . I'm sure they are all types of people in Bangladesh, India and Pakistan just as in any other country or people . Common narratives are usually politically motivated to garner power . Most people are busy trying to make a living and happy to live peacefully with their neighbours irrespective of their colour, creed or religion . Insecurities of the masses are encouraged and propagated by political parties to acquire power . A secure people will find ways and means to live and let live . Religion is thus a tool used to create insecurities amongst people to polarise and control them.
Great job Jyoti. Sure brough back memories of Mark Tully, who I regularly listened to when I was growing up. Like Jim Arlot's cricket commentary on BBC, Mark Tully had a presentation that sounded so authentic and factual. Mark knows so much about the Indian Subcontinent that his recollections of events in Bangladesh were priceless
as a critical viewer of journalistic pieces, i am fast becoming a fan of the print. less opinion, more facts. much appreciated. both interviewer and interviewee appear to be from a different era and corresponding sensibilities and sentiments.
i can think of a million burdens of generosity i could share with this gentleman, beginning with the abrogation of the royal family in the UK, and reimbursement for English pillage of India 🇮🇳.
@@achharsinghgill472 Improving relations whilst Pakistan continues to send terrorists across the border ? Wud you keep quiet with your neighbouring house if they keep throwing stones at u ?
@@prakyathprakash5180 ji I note your point but we are also interfering in Balochistan and other areas.We directly interfered in Bengal and broke up their country. This will take a lot of courage trust and good will.Lot of time and resources which are needed for development are being wasted on this tug of war.The main benefactor is the West.Small countries of the West have far more international clout than both India and Pakistan.Peace between both is a critical necessity
@@achharsinghgill472 I'm shocked that you said "India DIRECTLY INTERFERED and broke their country". Which history are u reading my friend? Are u falling for Pakistani propaganda and believing all their lies ?? India did not intervene unilaterally in the liberation war UNTIL Pakistan attacked India FIRST. Please read the events which led to 71 war. Millions of Bengali refugees started pouring into India which compelled India to support Mukti Bahini in their fight against Pakistan. Please read the history, now that u've Internet, y do u believe the lies written by Pakistan?
26000 pak soldiers confined in a few localities confronting hundreds of thousands indian soldiers and multi bahini committed atrocities throughout east pak ?..burned villages to turn population against themselves..that is laughable if anyone has a common sense
Dear Jyoti. ...It was nostalgic. ..Interviewing Mark Tuli. ..Losing half...Pakistan has not learnt lessons. ..Gr8 Jyoti. ..Keep it going with more ...😊Mohan Mumbai
Glory be to Mark Tully and the BBC 50 years ago. Millions or possibly billions of people listened to the BBC World Service for authentic news, for cultural reasons, for music, for debates, etc. They spread a form of democracy and free speech which was almost entirely lacking in most of the world. They also shunned propaganda. I can remember sitting in a hotel in Bombay in December 1971 and hearing nothing but screaming propaganda from the radio channels. Thank God for the BBC in those years. India has almost no empathy for Pakistan or Bangladesh. As a consequence the sub-continent is a basket case. It will remain so as long as India continues to stroke its ego.
At Shimla Bhutto presented himself as more helpless than he actually was. In fact, at that moment, possibly the only time in Pak history, the Pak Army was truly subservient to the civilian PM. The people of Pakistan had given their support to Bhutto. He could've settled permanently on Kashmir and made peace with India, but he didn't want that, and he was crafty enough to persuade Indira that he could not.
Bangladesh will never forget you mark tally. You will be always on our heart❤. You always told the truth. Poor Pakistan will never rise again. Thanks Allah that we separate from Pakistan. Hasina great leader today. With great economy. Joy bangla. Joy bongo bundhu.
Brother during the period of 1972 to 1980 millions of bangalies migrated to Pakistan, at the moment there are 4 million bangalies are living in Karachi with all the fundamental rights which an ordinary Pakistani is availing. Neither Pakistan Army nor the government agencies are disturbing them as they are Muslims and our brothers. Brother, come out from the dirty politics of SHEIKH MUJEEB UR REHMAN, whose only concern is to become Prime minister at any cost, just to become Prime minister for few years he brokes out beloved country. Lots of 💕 love from the brothers of east Pakistan 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰
@@turabassociates4140 You should have the guts to thank Yahiya & Bhutto because of them, East Pakistan has emerged as Bangladesh ... Don't pass the blames to others ...
@@garfieldzzzzzzzzzz She wanted to Lead mark the alley of untruthful but mark being a professional reporter only reported facts and he did mention that atrocities and and killings done by the bengalis and mukti bahini in 1971 and he did dilute the propaganda of massacre by calling the atrocities in the beginning and then sporadic.
That’s the first time I find Ms. Jyoti doing a sort of balanced journalism. I am sure it must be very hard for her to do a program devoid of having any sworn enemy of current government for interview and to go against her Pakistani obsession.
One of the problems with the west you can clearly read between the lines here- Any decision by America or the west is "policy" and any decision by India or any third world country is them being "obstinate"
Mark, are you shy to admit that 50 yrs ago india had a prime minister who had balls to take on Kissinger and Nixon in tandem, a far cry from present day leader.
Satyajit Kanjilal of course baby. Haven’t seen the way com Brezhnev and Fidel used to greet our PM in an all encompassing embrace of the yore. Brush up your knowledge lad.
@@yesodharankishore9029 I was in high school then and I have a living memory of that time! Yes I know about the Indian malaise at that time and even now how it has morphed into Liberalism in India and also in the west! It is more dangerous virus than Covid 19!
Satyajit Kanjilal dismembering Pakistan was a master stroke from the liberal visionary PM india had 50 yrs ago. What we have now is a ball less PM who can’t evict the Chinese squatter lock stock and barrel from Easter ladhak. Sorry to upset you, the incumbent PM happens to be a right wing sanghi.
I just love the fact that Indian army and india didn’t occupied a single inch of Bangladeshi land after the liberation . At that time Bangladeshi economy, military and people were shattered and tired of death and killings , if they wanted to occupy some land they would have done that but we didn’t . People of Pakistan should see this , india is not an expansionist country every time it was Pakistan who attacked india which later on many Pakistan army generals and isi officers claimed in their book . They claimed it as proudly that they attacked india . Ancestor of Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Indians are same , we are same people our DNA is same please don’t fight among ourselves . I am very relieved that we are not at war with Bangladeshi and we have friendly relations and the only reason I can see is Bangladesh is also not a expansionist country and they want to be a economic giant not a jihadi or military giant like Pakistan.
Dear Jyoti Mark was very much in Dhaka during the war,there is a video of him describing the attack on the Governor's house and his subsequent resignation.He was putting up at the erstwhile Hotel Intercontinental.
He was in Dhaka intercontinental until April 08, 1971 then he was thrown out then came back in June when foreign correspondents were brought back in and then he left and returned only after 16 December 1971. Brush your history
Jyoti, you know it. ,Mark Tully for the best part of his service in India was a Anti-India BBC soldier while enjoying the generosity of the Indian journalists & people of an era when Indian media space was a vacuum filled only by the BBC & it's correspondent Mark Tully. Jyoti, he has no stories about the 71 War except those generous to the Pakistani side. In your interview he seems to want to attempt an attonement, by promoting Sadique Saliks Anti-Pak Army book that the PRO wrote when in service of the Pak Army, as if to say that Tully himself was,just doing a job for the BBC even if he didn't totally agree with some of BBC's India policies. A sad state for a journalist who seems to seek redemption for his soul that he's now given to India. I would like you to interview the Political & Millitant opposition in Bangladesh and Pakistan to get their perspectives on the 71 war. Mark was a legend in a media vacuum that the BBC enjoyed and exploited across the World not just equalling but bettering Goebbels himself and that not just won the British their War on main land Europe but also maintains establishes UK's economy today through many shady tax havens across the World of its 'properties' like the Cayman Islands etc. Could Mark Tully be totally ignorant & isolated from those stories as he weaved around London, Delhi, Dhakka, Islamabad etc? Those are the stories I would have your deep experience & intuition, explore for us. Thank you.
This is your opinion based on bogus logic. Mark Is well recognise reporter is not an opinion maker. Maybe you should read the book dead reckoning by sarmila Bose and then you would understand what facts means
Several film clips of the war in East Pakistan are on RUclips. In these the BBC correspondent in Dhaka (then Dacca) is seen reporting on the situation during the December 1971 war. Mark Tully says he was not there during the war. So what was the BBC correspondent's name?
I'm just being neutral here, Jyoti's comments might seem offensive in some cases where she said "india had won the war" in 26th minute and when she stated "so you flew in with the indian army". Otherwise, huge respect for Mark and the Print for organizing the interview, thank you
Simon dring hid in the roof of hotel intercontinental.... when the pak army came to take all the foreign journalists, he was a great friend of Bangladesh, he was also the CEO of a Bangladeshi private TV channel in 2003....... EKUSHEY TELEVISION
Banga bandhu Mujibur Rehman, was strong warrior to Muslim League India- Pakistan , like Modi is to RSS. But Mujibur was also a ethnic Nationalist. So he didn't Tolerate Punjabi Domination. .... But he as a student leader was right hand to Muslim league. Worked under Suhrawardy, in East Bengal and was fighting Hindus then. He realised his mistake ...... If he wasn't killed, more hindus would stayed there. But the Army killed him and they out an Islamic rule
You had no options against "Indus" Pakistan, Bangala was never part of Iqbals vision and was enforced on Jinnah by the Britishers, there is a plethora of evidence to corroborate this. With or without Bharati intervention the split was an absolute certainty.
@@rizwanhussain645 Lol. Whole Pakistan movement began in Bengal. Muslim League's base was Bengal. And are you implying Jinnah was stupid and gullible to not foresee this? Come on.
Amazing interview by Mark. Despite Jyoti tried again and again showing her anti Pakistan biased but Mark slapped her back in very telling way. Hope this is watches in India and understood in good faith.
Most Bangladeshi ladies had abortion carried out after Dec 16th & those childs born was taken away by Missionaries to West & given to foster families ... We were careful about that ... I hope this will put your nasty, dirty Mind to peace ...
One wonders why the propagandists want to keep rubbing this in at this juncture. Some faltering steps are being taken to get relations together. They should be encouraged. Tully has always been a trouble maker
Preposterous title claiming Pakistani humiliation at Indian hands Humiliation , in full measure , is for the dis-entranced Nation , who not only went out of their in arousing rebellion and hatred in the devout Muslim Bengalis, but instigated, aided, and abetted the mutinous massacres, but brought in a regular army of 10 divisions against ONE division of defending Pakistani army , not to help this treasonous rebellion to weaken their only arch enemy Pakistan- all against moral, political and legal dictates, but led shamelessly a band of vulture - like tank mounted divisions, trooping in to breakup a sovereign ideological based nation. The interviewer announced and accepted the Indian army’s full participation in this obvious Indian/Pakistani army’s all out war at a ratio of 1 to 10. Bravo Pakistan army and bravo Bangladeshi despise , too, who, better muslims than the west Pakistanis, will wreak havoc on anyone seeking to undermine their ideology- that’s what East Pakistan was all about and that’s what Bangladesh is, today.
What happened with mujeeb what was his end we all know and have seen. How much Bangladeshi love india we also have seen recent modi visit to Bangladesh 😝
Well, those people rioting the Modi visit are the Taliban's of Bangladesh, and at most they represent 5% of the country. Even the Jaamati types don't approve this Hefaazat crowd. They are basically the un-educated lower depths of the society. They are being handled, as they should be - with zero tolerance. (I am not a fan of Modi, and whether an average Bangladeshi likes him is a different conversation)
You've insulted all bangladeshi by saying that the war was between India and Pakistan and bangladesh was born. Like bengali didn't fight or died or sacrificed. Shame on such journalists and journalism .
The 3+ million victims of genocide 95% were Hindus. This sentence kind of victim of subjugation by Islamist, Left & liberals. Even, today's remaining Hindu population are still unaware of this fact. Muslims who were slaughtered by Pakistani military & their loyal militias like - Rajakars, Shanti Committee, Dalals mostly were Awami & Communists. Parties had enlisted members of not more than 2-3 lacs in volumes. Most of them found themselves in shelter homes inside India. 95% Hindu victims + 1.5% - 2% Both Awami & Communist Muslims + rest of were victims from ethnic & other religious minorities formed the list of 3+ million genocide of the century. In fact, Buddists & Christians were very lucky as they were compradors to Pakistani occupying junta forces.
Even if Nixon did provide arm Pakistan had no chance... Besides every body have great plan until they got a punch in the face.. so it doesn't matter anymore .It's done.
Mark your love for Pakistan is just not acceptable despite you residing in India for such a long Jyoti you should have objected Mark making such comments
PAK army has not done bad ,they still got hold over Pakistani state and nuke to India head.Bangladesh was liberated because Pakistan didn't wanted it in first place. we also need to review gandhi father of nation ? did he give India independence ?.
If Pakistani Army didn't want it then why they fought a bloody war? Listen, East Pakistan was major source of Pakistani capital. They wanted the land but not people. That's why they didn't hesitate to genocide over 3+ million people.
Jyoti you should also talk about Indian involvement in 1971 and you people took advantage of the situation and how can an alien army help people from different country and become Champions of Independent Bangladesh!
Some one came with there allies with 5 fleet !i wonder what made them return back ! It’s not india alone who brought Allies ! Pakistan had there own frnds ! Stop crying ! And learn history u guys will never win !
In i971, we were led by a brilliant and truly patriotic Prime Minister Indira Gandhi and her competent Defence team of Jagjivan Ram, Secretary KB Lall, RAW's RN Kaw and super bureaucrats PN Haksar, DP Dhar and TN Kaul. The Army was commanded by a Parsi, charismatic Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw; Air Chief P C Lal ; Admiral Nanda as Naval Chief; Lt Gen JS Arora, a Sikh, heading Ops as GOC(East); Maj Gen Jacob, a Jew as Principal Staff Officer; Lt Gen Sagat Singh, Lt Gen Raina, Vice Admiral Krishnan, Air Marshal Dhawan, Air Marshal SK Kaul( who attacked the Residence of the East Pakistan Governor)... All our moves went like clockwork, thanks to meticulous planning and energetic execution. Could we do it today, we ask?
Dear John You have missed out General Shahbeg Singh who did the most difficult job of training the Mukti Bahini and do all the foundational work.He was next in line to become India's Army Chief of Staff until he fell out with Mrs. Gandhi because of difference of opinion on army's role within India.She cooked up some false charges against him which were all proven to be false by Indian courts.He lost his life during Operation Blue Star fighting against the Indian Army
Pakistan army attacked the areas which harboured protesters who had been rallying against Yahya's postponement of the assembly session and West Pakistan's denial to handover power to Sk Mujibur Rahman. Muslims, Hindus were mercilessly gunned down on the 25 th March 71.
In the 1970s, he had the reputation of the world's pre-eminent diplomat winning the Nobel Peace Prize. It was later that he became characterised as a warmonger (illegally invading Cambodia during the Vietnam war) who was pretty ruthless at supporting, manipulating and double-crossing various leaders to America's benefit.
@@justme-hh4vp I owe you one friend who is just me :-) Honest truth is that I almost read about him but even though I am an old man I still can't stomach knowing that "goodness never existed" ... my nightmares are coming out to be true, Mr. Kissinger was one of the type who almost make us believe that goodness exists only to be kicked in the face with ruthlessness ... ruthlessness in my opinion is often an offshoot of too much security (which many a times, people with high intelligence and good opportunities suffer from until they find the damp cold darkness and until it is too late for them to stop contributing to increase the damp cold darkness by their ruthlessness). Now that dear 'just me' you have told me that my worst fears are true, I will try and inspire a kid I know to try and explore genuine unconscious goodness as a default attitude. If I had to evaluate my own true heart, I am a person who fantasises that goodness be real, I myself am willing to lie and say that goodness exists (I don't need to lie, though). You take care 'just me' (this is one username that I wish I had thought of ... I use my real name and a thumbnail showing Bodhidharma ... thank whatever for humans like Kabir or Bodhidharma ... honestly I will never be able to breathe if such humans turn out to be Nobel Peace prize laureates ;-) ... just me, thank you that you cared, I cherish every bit of goodness, whether it exists or not).
@@koulster2 That's a lot to take in, I wasn't even going to respond but all i would say is that don't attribute to malice/evil what can easily be attributed to self interest. Goodness certainly exists but it tends to be personal and that's where we should look for it. When it comes to the actions of nations protecting their kith and kin and projecting power, don't expect to find it.
@@justme-hh4vp Dear 'just me' Sorry for my long reply but "once I start I am too lazy to stop" (it was a one-liner in some acclaimed biographical movie on Abraham Lincoln). But please don't feel compelled to reply. If you read my comment that in itself is enough (a part of me sees rest of me going berserk, I suffer this urge to say too much: I empathise with humans who don't have the time or inclination or both to read what I say, it gets too much ... and unfortunately too often in my head: trouble is that I loose the aesthetic part and even the relevance: no doubt it is embarrassing ... but compulsive for me ). I guess summarily that applying 'the game theory' mathematics/probability proves that the way to determine the best choice for any one of a set of competing entities is NOT done by figuring out the best possible scenario for every individual entity, should there be near total transparency available in matters relevant ALONG WITH near total commitment by every constituent of the competing entities to resist the temptation to try and grab an opportunistic best during the process of making a choice. Every individual entity can only compare its individual best possible choice as sufficient transparency as well as sufficient discipline most of the times is not available to each one of the competing entities. Competing entities can use only as much transparency and discipline as is available during the process of making choices and living with the consequences. I agree that in the process it seems as if the competing entities are damaging themselves as well as other ones. Though when seen from within the horizon of an individual competing entity it would be choosing what best appears in its realm. I won't write a question here lest you feel forced to reply, but I think the shape developed by competition is not evil or against goodness. What troubles me is some or all entities having lost memory of the chain of motives that should be used to determine whether successive choices made by a competing entity is beneficial for itself or otherwise. I have noticed that the process of having to make successive choices too often creates a sort of laziness plus fog where an entity or many of them are busy chopping off the very branch they stand on. Not that it is for lack of intellect: I have noticed that many times it is because the competing entity stops telling itself its own true and intimate motives till literally nobody remembers the real motive/s and chain/s of motives as they develop. It is so hard to keep telling myself what I wanted, how I chose to proceed and then course correct using the feedback which only I have access to (should I choose to access it, archive it and keep it free of dust and cobwebs). I in my limited experience have noticed that goodness can easily exist on a national level or never have touched an individual's mind. I agree that scaling up of goodness seems unlikely, but I have noticed that it is not given a fair shot. Just me thinking with myself writing it out so that I don't get lost preaching so hard that everyone except just me walks the talk. I wish I could respect time a hell lot than I do. Adios !!
It has to be clear that the Biharis attacked the Bengalis on the 1st of March when they came out in protest to Yahya's postponement of the Assembly. Biharis had killed, attacked the Bengalis first that is being misquoted.
I am Bangladeshi . I read about Mark Tully in our school textbooks . It's happy to see and hear him today
It was actually a Pakistani BBC Correspondent Anthony Masceranas who FIRST broke the Bangladesh 🇧🇩 Genocide story to the World 🌎. The man had to escape with his Family to UK where lived the rest of his life and died an unsung hero in 1986.
Marcenehas was not a BBC reporter he was morning news Karachi reporter. His report was published in Sunday times London on June 11 1971 in which described atrocities committed by Pakistani army as well as atrocities committed by bengalis and mukti bahinis against Non bengalis which is hardly ever mentioned
Mark Tally was a house hold Name during the liberation war in Bangladesh..we used to wait to hear whole day to hear the report of mark tally...during those dark days mark tally was our lifeline ...mark tally is a great witness of rise and fall of so many events in Indian sub-continent
Pakistan should apologize to people of Bangladesh..Mass rape, Mass killing and dogs of war were unleashed at unprecednt scale
Also Bangladesh should apologize for the mass murder of Biharis
So sad to hear Mark voice becoming to sound slurry due to old age now doubt. He always was so clear in his speech in his younger days. Also speaks perfect Hindi/Urdu. The guys a living legend.
He is a living monster liar and agent privateer.
Speaks kids and nothing but lies
@@alkahussain8082 before making claims, have some proofs
Very professional , beautiful and warm touching interview. Thank u jyoti mam. 👍🏻👏🏻
This is journalism of the highest quality, no entertainment and no bullshit around only pure journalism.
Hi Sahil. Do keep watching and sending in your comments.
How nice to hear Mark Tully again, always an icon to me. Few can combine journalism with compassion and humaneness like Mark has always done. An exceedingly warm person behind the uncompromising journalist. As usual, his narrative is objective as much as it is humane, warm and sensitive. Harcharan Bains, Chandigarh
Bangladesh one of top friends of India 🙏
They're not our friends, don't fall for Bullshit propaganda
We tend to type cast . I'm sure they are all types of people in Bangladesh, India and Pakistan just as in any other country or people . Common narratives are usually politically motivated to garner power . Most people are busy trying to make a living and happy to live peacefully with their neighbours irrespective of their colour, creed or religion . Insecurities of the masses are encouraged and propagated by political parties to acquire power . A secure people will find ways and means to live and let live . Religion is thus a tool used to create insecurities amongst people to polarise and control them.
Till awami league is in power, yes. The day BNP/Islamic parties come we have another enemy at our gates
Love Bangladesh from India...
Do you guys all refer to top friends as termites .?
Nothing really changed. Now Pakistan army is killing Baloch and Pashtoon in the sameway🙄
Now the job has been taken over by Indian army in Kashmir
During my younger days loved to hear Mark's voice in BBC, to conclude listened to your video completely which was refreshing memory
Great job Jyoti. Sure brough back memories of Mark Tully, who I regularly listened to when I was growing up. Like Jim Arlot's cricket commentary on BBC, Mark Tully had a presentation that sounded so authentic and factual. Mark knows so much about the Indian Subcontinent that his recollections of events in Bangladesh were priceless
as a critical viewer of journalistic pieces, i am fast becoming a fan of the print. less opinion, more facts. much appreciated.
both interviewer and interviewee appear to be from a different era and corresponding sensibilities and sentiments.
Heartiest thanks for mr.Mark Tully.
Moment he said burden of generosity on India relating to Pakistan he lost me.
i can think of a million burdens of generosity i could share with this gentleman, beginning with the abrogation of the royal family in the UK, and reimbursement for English pillage of India 🇮🇳.
@@barkupatree6871 What's wrong with improving relations,that's the jist of what he is saying
@@achharsinghgill472 Improving relations whilst Pakistan continues to send terrorists across the border ?
Wud you keep quiet with your neighbouring house if they keep throwing stones at u ?
@@prakyathprakash5180 ji I note your point but we are also interfering in Balochistan and other areas.We directly interfered in Bengal and broke up their country. This will take a lot of courage trust and good will.Lot of time and resources which are needed for development are being wasted on this tug of war.The main benefactor is the West.Small countries of the West have far more international clout than both India and Pakistan.Peace between both is a critical necessity
@@achharsinghgill472 I'm shocked that you said "India DIRECTLY INTERFERED and broke their country".
Which history are u reading my friend? Are u falling for Pakistani propaganda and believing all their lies ??
India did not intervene unilaterally in the liberation war UNTIL Pakistan attacked India FIRST.
Please read the events which led to 71 war. Millions of Bengali refugees started pouring into India which compelled India to support Mukti Bahini in their fight against Pakistan.
Please read the history, now that u've Internet, y do u believe the lies written by Pakistan?
26000 pak soldiers confined in a few localities confronting hundreds of thousands indian soldiers and multi bahini committed atrocities throughout east pak ?..burned villages to turn population against themselves..that is laughable if anyone has a common sense
LOL 🤣 nonsense
@@shahidanusrat6086
@696pk
Please go to depth to know more about what has happened in 1971 ...
Dear Jyoti. ...It was nostalgic. ..Interviewing Mark Tuli. ..Losing half...Pakistan has not learnt lessons. ..Gr8 Jyoti. ..Keep it going with more ...😊Mohan Mumbai
Modi challenged Pakisthan for independence of baluchisthan, but nothing happened. Indira Gandhi challenged, Bangladesh became independent.
One of the very few journalists I trust .... He is a kohinoor
Jyotiji, thanks for the wonderful interview. I really am enjoying and keenly watching and looking forward to your videos.
Mark tully, the legend.
Glory be to Mark Tully and the BBC 50 years ago. Millions or possibly billions of people listened to the BBC World Service for authentic news, for cultural reasons, for music, for debates, etc. They spread a form of democracy and free speech which was almost entirely lacking in most of the world. They also shunned propaganda. I can remember sitting in a hotel in Bombay in December 1971 and hearing nothing but screaming propaganda from the radio channels. Thank God for the BBC in those years. India has almost no empathy for Pakistan or Bangladesh. As a consequence the sub-continent is a basket case. It will remain so as long as India continues to stroke its ego.
At Shimla Bhutto presented himself as more helpless than he actually was. In fact, at that moment, possibly the only time in Pak history, the Pak Army was truly subservient to the civilian PM. The people of Pakistan had given their support to Bhutto. He could've settled permanently on Kashmir and made peace with India, but he didn't want that, and he was crafty enough to persuade Indira that he could not.
Go get your head checked because instead of a brain you have Pakistan Studies stuffed in there
Bangladesh will never forget you mark tally. You will be always on our heart❤. You always told the truth. Poor Pakistan will never rise again. Thanks Allah that we separate from Pakistan. Hasina great leader today. With great economy. Joy bangla. Joy bongo bundhu.
Brother during the period of 1972 to 1980 millions of bangalies migrated to Pakistan, at the moment there are 4 million bangalies are living in Karachi with all the fundamental rights which an ordinary Pakistani is availing. Neither Pakistan Army nor the government agencies are disturbing them as they are Muslims and our brothers.
Brother, come out from the dirty politics of SHEIKH MUJEEB UR REHMAN, whose only concern is to become Prime minister at any cost, just to become Prime minister for few years he brokes out beloved country.
Lots of 💕 love from the brothers of east Pakistan 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰
@@turabassociates4140
You should have the guts to thank Yahiya & Bhutto because of them, East Pakistan has emerged as Bangladesh ...
Don't pass the blames to others ...
Reference figure for good journalism, unbiased, objective, humane, compassionate story teller.
No interruptions from Jyoti is the takeaway!
She is interviewing a white man!
@@garfieldzzzzzzzzzz She wanted to Lead mark the alley of untruthful but mark being a professional reporter only reported facts and he did mention that atrocities and and killings done by the bengalis and mukti bahini in 1971 and he did dilute the propaganda of massacre by calling the atrocities in the beginning and then sporadic.
That’s the first time I find Ms. Jyoti doing a sort of balanced journalism. I am sure it must be very hard for her to do a program devoid of having any sworn enemy of current government for interview and to go against her Pakistani obsession.
Bangladesh doing well in most areas unlike Pakistan.👍
Infact doing better than India also.
@@salilkumar6397 That is why most of them flock to Kolkata, Delhi, Chennai for medical treatment
@@salilkumar6397 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@rz4283 in term of improvement during the years bangladesh has more
Thanks this video. joy bangla joy india
Jay Bangla from occupied Balochistan
One of the problems with the west you can clearly read between the lines here- Any decision by America or the west is "policy" and any decision by India or any third world country is them being "obstinate"
Great job 👍 @theprint and Jyoti mam 🙏 thanks for this 👍
Fascinating. Dead excellent. Thank you.
Wonderful story of Salik sahib as narrated by Mark Tully
Lucid and captivating nostalgia 👍
Mark, are you shy to admit that 50 yrs ago india had a prime minister who had balls to take on Kissinger and Nixon in tandem, a far cry from present day leader.
Russian backing
Satyajit Kanjilal of course baby. Haven’t seen the way com Brezhnev and Fidel used to greet our PM in an all encompassing embrace of the yore.
Brush up your knowledge lad.
@@yesodharankishore9029
I was in high school then and I have a living memory of that time! Yes I know about the Indian malaise at that time and even now how it has morphed into Liberalism in India and also in the west! It is more dangerous virus than Covid 19!
Satyajit Kanjilal dismembering Pakistan was a master stroke from the liberal visionary PM india had 50 yrs ago.
What we have now is a ball less PM who can’t evict the Chinese squatter lock stock and barrel from Easter ladhak.
Sorry to upset you, the incumbent PM happens to be a right wing sanghi.
@@yesodharankishore9029 oh touché
Respect to Mark tully such a gentleman
I just love the fact that Indian army and india didn’t occupied a single inch of Bangladeshi land after the liberation . At that time Bangladeshi economy, military and people were shattered and tired of death and killings , if they wanted to occupy some land they would have done that but we didn’t . People of Pakistan should see this , india is not an expansionist country every time it was Pakistan who attacked india which later on many Pakistan army generals and isi officers claimed in their book . They claimed it as proudly that they attacked india . Ancestor of Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Indians are same , we are same people our DNA is same please don’t fight among ourselves . I am very relieved that we are not at war with Bangladeshi and we have friendly relations and the only reason I can see is Bangladesh is also not a expansionist country and they want to be a economic giant not a jihadi or military giant like Pakistan.
What a beautiful setting for the interview. Can somone please tell me where it was recorded.
During my younger days i used to like mark voice and also I like when he talk in hindi and Urdu
My father was POW as Captain in Indian Camp!
One among the 93000 😂
Wonderful interview!
Great to see Mark Tully!
Great to see u Mark
Why have you cut off at 40:11 when he was speaking about siachen.!!!!
He clearly knows that India is an occupier in Kashmir
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Like india confess they helped bengalis to take out them from suffering... Why they are unable to look out at the minorities in their own country.
The interviewer asks stupid questions for example " did you go to Bangladesh with the Indian army ?" An interview with no homework by the interviewer.
Urdu was not language of Pakistan. Language of muhajr people's of Bihar and U P province of India.
I am shocked beyond belief that Mark Tully has become so old. I didnt realise at all.
How old is he now?
Atal Ji never termed Indira Gandhi as Durga........ He clarified it several times.
“Wish India bury the burden of generosity” 👌
Jyoti says: Post the War! as Mark talks about atrocities committed by Pakistani Army. How dumb
That’s a bold statement “larger than life “
Dear Jyoti Mark was very much in Dhaka during the war,there is a video of him describing the attack on the Governor's house and his subsequent resignation.He was putting up at the erstwhile Hotel Intercontinental.
He was in Dhaka intercontinental until April 08, 1971 then he was thrown out then came back in June when foreign correspondents were brought back in and then he left and returned only after 16 December 1971. Brush your history
@@irfanhuq5918 watch the video of AFP where he describes the IAF stike on Governor's house and subsequent resignation of the Governor.
Joy bangla joy bharat
Jyoti, you know it. ,Mark Tully for the best part of his service in India was a Anti-India BBC soldier while enjoying the generosity of the Indian journalists & people of an era when Indian media space was a vacuum filled only by the BBC & it's correspondent Mark Tully. Jyoti, he has no stories about the 71 War except those generous to the Pakistani side. In your interview he seems to want to attempt an attonement, by promoting Sadique Saliks Anti-Pak Army book that the PRO wrote when in service of the Pak Army, as if to say that Tully himself was,just doing a job for the BBC even if he didn't totally agree with some of BBC's India policies. A sad state for a journalist who seems to seek redemption for his soul that he's now given to India.
I would like you to interview the Political & Millitant opposition in Bangladesh and Pakistan to get their perspectives on the 71 war. Mark was a legend in a media vacuum that the BBC enjoyed and exploited across the World not just equalling but bettering Goebbels himself and that not just won the British their War on main land Europe but also maintains establishes UK's economy today through many shady tax havens across the World of its 'properties' like the Cayman Islands etc.
Could Mark Tully be totally ignorant & isolated from those stories as he weaved around London, Delhi, Dhakka, Islamabad etc? Those are the stories I would have your deep experience & intuition, explore for us. Thank you.
This is your opinion based on bogus logic. Mark Is well recognise reporter is not an opinion maker. Maybe you should read the book dead reckoning by sarmila Bose and then you would understand what facts means
Several film clips of the war in East Pakistan are on RUclips. In these the BBC correspondent in Dhaka (then Dacca) is seen reporting on the situation during the December 1971 war.
Mark Tully says he was not there during the war. So what was the BBC correspondent's name?
Great to see Mark Tully. My memory faded 😢
I'm just being neutral here, Jyoti's comments might seem offensive in some cases where she said "india had won the war" in 26th minute and when she stated "so you flew in with the indian army". Otherwise, huge respect for Mark and the Print for organizing the interview, thank you
She is not particularly known for her tact or intelligence.
@@Jvs-eq3iy haha i can understand
VICTORY INDIA
Love from Bangladesh
Mark Tully 👍🙏 great
We love Bengalis as our brothers. All the pictures shown in media are of the Biharis killed by the mukti bahini. Marc was their mouthpiece.
Simon dring hid in the roof of hotel intercontinental.... when the pak army came to take all the foreign journalists, he was a great friend of Bangladesh, he was also the CEO of a Bangladeshi private TV channel in 2003....... EKUSHEY TELEVISION
Banga bandhu Mujibur Rehman, was strong warrior to Muslim League India- Pakistan ,
like Modi is to RSS.
But Mujibur was also a ethnic Nationalist.
So he didn't Tolerate Punjabi Domination.
.... But he as a student leader was right hand to Muslim league. Worked under Suhrawardy, in East Bengal and was fighting Hindus then.
He realised his mistake
...... If he wasn't killed, more hindus would stayed there. But the Army killed him and they out an Islamic rule
Mujeeb was a young student and a junior member of Muslim league. He was not noticeable
Mark is always 'TULLY' never need an alcohol
That’s a awesome statement “ sheikh Shaheb the larger than life “
The war was won, but the diplomats screwed up in Shimla
You had no options against "Indus" Pakistan, Bangala was never part of Iqbals vision and was enforced on Jinnah by the Britishers, there is a plethora of evidence to corroborate this. With or without Bharati intervention the split was an absolute certainty.
@@rizwanhussain645 Lol. Whole Pakistan movement began in Bengal. Muslim League's base was Bengal. And are you implying Jinnah was stupid and gullible to not foresee this? Come on.
@@badkarma1425 Do some research and all will be revealed.
@@rizwanhussain645 Research? Do they research something in Pakistan beyond Pakistan?
@@upadhyayrathiraj1518 Keep On Barking!!!!!
Wish if Mark Tully could report from Kashmir, Srinagar like he did from East Pakistan.
Exactly! He was India's mouth piece.
Amazing interview by Mark. Despite Jyoti tried again and again showing her anti Pakistan biased but Mark slapped her back in very telling way. Hope this is watches in India and understood in good faith.
It’s mean that today more than half of Bengals dash is the offspring of Pakistani
Most Bangladeshi ladies had abortion carried out after Dec 16th & those childs born was taken away by Missionaries to West & given to foster families ...
We were careful about that ...
I hope this will put your nasty, dirty Mind to peace ...
One wonders why the propagandists want to keep rubbing this in at this juncture. Some faltering steps are being taken to get relations together. They should be encouraged. Tully has always been a trouble maker
Absolutely true!
Preposterous title claiming Pakistani humiliation at Indian hands
Humiliation , in full measure , is for the dis-entranced Nation , who not only went out of their in arousing rebellion and hatred in the devout Muslim Bengalis, but instigated, aided, and abetted the mutinous massacres, but brought in a regular army of 10 divisions against ONE division of defending Pakistani army , not to help this treasonous rebellion to weaken their only arch enemy Pakistan- all against moral, political and legal dictates, but led shamelessly a band of vulture - like tank mounted divisions, trooping in to breakup a sovereign ideological based nation.
The interviewer announced and accepted the Indian army’s full participation in this obvious Indian/Pakistani army’s all out war at a ratio of 1 to 10.
Bravo Pakistan army and bravo Bangladeshi despise , too, who, better muslims than the west Pakistanis, will wreak havoc on anyone seeking to undermine their ideology- that’s what East Pakistan was all about and that’s what Bangladesh is, today.
What happened with mujeeb what was his end we all know and have seen.
How much Bangladeshi love india we also have seen recent modi visit to Bangladesh 😝
Well, those people rioting the Modi visit are the Taliban's of Bangladesh, and at most they represent 5% of the country. Even the Jaamati types don't approve this Hefaazat crowd. They are basically the un-educated lower depths of the society. They are being handled, as they should be - with zero tolerance.
(I am not a fan of Modi, and whether an average Bangladeshi likes him is a different conversation)
Hahahahaha you guys are still selling such content😂😂
And you are still dreaming of Kashmir
You've insulted all bangladeshi by saying that the war was between India and Pakistan and bangladesh was born. Like bengali didn't fight or died or sacrificed. Shame on such journalists and journalism .
Islam was enough if served with Justice, Pakistan is still facing same danger because of Lack of Justice, Political Freedom and Democracy.
Jinnah was creator of b.desh.he had sown seeds in 1948. Lesson:dont belittle others.
No Pakistani can dare to deny Mark Tully
Mark why you didn’t interview Kissinger us sec of state when he was aware of huge genocide happening on Hindu bangladeshi
Mark does not interview he is a reporter and report the facts only
JYOTI MADAM , HOW MANY #HINDUS WERE KILLED BY #PAKISTANARMY IN #1971INDOPAKWAR ?
The 3+ million victims of genocide 95% were Hindus. This sentence kind of victim of subjugation by Islamist, Left & liberals. Even, today's remaining Hindu population are still unaware of this fact. Muslims who were slaughtered by Pakistani military & their loyal militias like - Rajakars, Shanti Committee, Dalals mostly were Awami & Communists. Parties had enlisted members of not more than 2-3 lacs in volumes. Most of them found themselves in shelter homes inside India. 95% Hindu victims + 1.5% - 2% Both Awami & Communist Muslims + rest of were victims from ethnic & other religious minorities formed the list of 3+ million genocide of the century.
In fact, Buddists & Christians were very lucky as they were compradors to Pakistani occupying junta forces.
Indra should have been grateful to Nixon for placing an arms embargo on Palistan while India was getting everything from USSR.
Lol...we thanks only USSR....they sent nuclear armed battle group. To piss US and UK aircraft carrier.
Even if Nixon did provide arm Pakistan had no chance...
Besides every body have great plan until they got a punch in the face.. so it doesn't matter anymore .It's done.
What do you say about Dead Reckoning ?
Have anybody taken other side point
Bhutto Mujib died horriblly
Why mention a kissenger story and edit it out ?
Mark your love for Pakistan is just not acceptable despite you residing in India for such a long Jyoti you should have objected Mark making such comments
She is even bigger lover of pakistan
8:03 It is so funny that Pakistani Army still follows this old template/model till date! Recent example is Balakot...these guys arr hilarious 😂
I hope that Abhinandan enjoyed the cup of tea in Pakistan!!
@@almastirmizi13 Of course he did! After all it was served by the best servants in the world! 😀
Difficult to follow this interview.
His voice is very course .
PAK army has not done bad ,they still got hold over Pakistani state and nuke to India head.Bangladesh was liberated because Pakistan didn't wanted it in first place.
we also need to review gandhi father of nation ? did he give India independence ?.
If Pakistani Army didn't want it then why they fought a bloody war? Listen, East Pakistan was major source of Pakistani capital. They wanted the land but not people. That's why they didn't hesitate to genocide over 3+ million people.
Jyoti you should also talk about Indian involvement in 1971 and you people took advantage of the situation and how can an alien army help people from different country and become Champions of Independent Bangladesh!
of course we took advantage of the situation... and why not?
@@badkarma1425 Because no country can interfere in other countries!
@@ahmedhumayunrasheed2434 "Jiski lathi uski bhains" one who has power, rules the world. One who doesn't is a slave of another.
Some one came with there allies with 5 fleet !i wonder what made them return back ! It’s not india alone who brought Allies ! Pakistan had there own frnds ! Stop crying ! And learn history u guys will never win !
Amount of attrocaties done by pak army were of so high magnitude...India had to get involved to solve the problem...mass rape, mass killing what not
Three girls dancing in the background
In i971, we were led by a brilliant and truly patriotic Prime Minister Indira Gandhi and her competent Defence team of Jagjivan Ram, Secretary KB Lall, RAW's RN Kaw and super bureaucrats PN Haksar, DP Dhar and TN Kaul. The Army was commanded by a Parsi, charismatic Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw; Air Chief P C Lal ; Admiral Nanda as Naval Chief; Lt Gen JS Arora, a Sikh, heading Ops as GOC(East); Maj Gen Jacob, a Jew as Principal Staff Officer; Lt Gen Sagat Singh, Lt Gen Raina, Vice Admiral Krishnan, Air Marshal Dhawan, Air Marshal SK Kaul( who attacked the Residence of the East Pakistan Governor)... All our moves went like clockwork, thanks to meticulous planning and energetic execution. Could we do it today, we ask?
Dear John You have missed out General Shahbeg Singh who did the most difficult job of training the Mukti Bahini and do all the foundational work.He was next in line to become India's Army Chief of Staff until he fell out with Mrs. Gandhi because of difference of opinion on army's role within India.She cooked up some false charges against him which were all proven to be false by Indian courts.He lost his life during Operation Blue Star fighting against the Indian Army
Nuclear weapons makes thinks harder
World king shekmojib.all bad poleci pak foji and botto.hotdrink open girl foking..Allah help shekmojib.
Baray hojaoo chutioooo..
Pakistan army attacked the areas which harboured protesters who had been rallying against Yahya's postponement of the assembly session and West Pakistan's denial to handover power to Sk Mujibur Rahman. Muslims, Hindus were mercilessly gunned down on the 25 th March 71.
You should try to know more, in depth, of what has happened in 1971 ...
Its a shame that we can't have hindi version of this interview
What was the problem with Mr. Kissinger, I never got to read up about him but he comes across as some negative person (to put it politely).
In the 1970s, he had the reputation of the world's pre-eminent diplomat winning the Nobel Peace Prize. It was later that he became characterised as a warmonger (illegally invading Cambodia during the Vietnam war) who was pretty ruthless at supporting, manipulating and double-crossing various leaders to America's benefit.
@@justme-hh4vp
I owe you one friend who is just me :-)
Honest truth is that I almost read about him but even though I am an old man I still can't stomach knowing that "goodness never existed" ... my nightmares are coming out to be true, Mr. Kissinger was one of the type who almost make us believe that goodness exists only to be kicked in the face with ruthlessness ... ruthlessness in my opinion is often an offshoot of too much security (which many a times, people with high intelligence and good opportunities suffer from until they find the damp cold darkness and until it is too late for them to stop contributing to increase the damp cold darkness by their ruthlessness). Now that dear 'just me' you have told me that my worst fears are true, I will try and inspire a kid I know to try and explore genuine unconscious goodness as a default attitude.
If I had to evaluate my own true heart, I am a person who fantasises that goodness be real, I myself am willing to lie and say that goodness exists (I don't need to lie, though).
You take care 'just me' (this is one username that I wish I had thought of ... I use my real name and a thumbnail showing Bodhidharma ... thank whatever for humans like Kabir or Bodhidharma ... honestly I will never be able to breathe if such humans turn out to be Nobel Peace prize laureates ;-) ... just me, thank you that you cared, I cherish every bit of goodness, whether it exists or not).
@@koulster2 That's a lot to take in, I wasn't even going to respond but all i would say is that don't attribute to malice/evil what can easily be attributed to self interest. Goodness certainly exists but it tends to be personal and that's where we should look for it. When it comes to the actions of nations protecting their kith and kin and projecting power, don't expect to find it.
@@justme-hh4vp
Dear 'just me'
Sorry for my long reply but "once I start I am too lazy to stop" (it was a one-liner in some acclaimed biographical movie on Abraham Lincoln).
But please don't feel compelled to reply. If you read my comment that in itself is enough
(a part of me sees rest of me going berserk, I suffer this urge to say too much: I empathise with humans who don't have the time or inclination or both to read what I say, it gets too much ... and unfortunately too often in my head: trouble is that I loose the aesthetic part and even the relevance: no doubt it is embarrassing ... but compulsive for me ).
I guess summarily that applying 'the game theory' mathematics/probability proves that the way to determine the best choice for any one of a set of competing entities is NOT done by figuring out the best possible scenario for every individual entity, should there be near total transparency available in matters relevant ALONG WITH near total commitment by every constituent of the competing entities to resist the temptation to try and grab an opportunistic best during the process of making a choice.
Every individual entity can only compare its individual best possible choice as sufficient transparency as well as sufficient discipline most of the times is not available to each one of the competing entities.
Competing entities can use only as much transparency and discipline as is available during the process of making choices and living with the consequences.
I agree that in the process it seems as if the competing entities are damaging themselves as well as other ones. Though when seen from within the horizon of an individual competing entity it would be choosing what best appears in its realm.
I won't write a question here lest you feel forced to reply, but I think the shape developed by competition is not evil or against goodness.
What troubles me is some or all entities having lost memory of the chain of motives that should be used to determine whether successive choices made by a competing entity is beneficial for itself or otherwise. I have noticed that the process of having to make successive choices too often creates a sort of laziness plus fog where an entity or many of them are busy chopping off the very branch they stand on. Not that it is for lack of intellect: I have noticed that many times it is because the competing entity stops telling itself its own true and intimate motives till literally nobody remembers the real motive/s and chain/s of motives as they develop.
It is so hard to keep telling myself what I wanted, how I chose to proceed and then course correct using the feedback which only I have access to (should I choose to access it, archive it and keep it free of dust and cobwebs).
I in my limited experience have noticed that goodness can easily exist on a national level or never have touched an individual's mind.
I agree that scaling up of goodness seems unlikely, but I have noticed that it is not given a fair shot.
Just me thinking with myself writing it out so that I don't get lost preaching so hard that everyone except just me walks the talk.
I wish I could respect time a hell lot than I do.
Adios !!
It has to be clear that the Biharis attacked the Bengalis on the 1st of March when they came out in protest to Yahya's postponement of the Assembly. Biharis had killed, attacked the Bengalis first that is being misquoted.
Lying
I apologise.
We were taught wrong.
Wishes.
Pakistan.