12th SS-Panzer "Hitlerjugend"! Steel Division 2 Battlegroup First Look (Tribute to D-Day DLC)

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июн 2020
  • In this video you can find a first look at the 12th SS-Panzer "Hitlerjugend" division covering my immediate opinions and thoughts whilst also putting together a rough deck! Enjoy!
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  • @aaudi6365
    @aaudi6365 3 года назад +38

    The sad part of this division is that most soldiers in it ( At least those who weren't Officers ) were no older than 19 years old. This division was almost entirely kids!

    • @Bullet-Tooth-Tony-
      @Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 3 года назад +21

      They were tough fighters though, held the British off for a month.

    • @commanderbacara225
      @commanderbacara225 2 года назад +6

      No older than 17 years old actually. The oldest members of 12th SS Hitlerjugend outside of NCOs and COs from 1st LSSAH were all Hitlerjugend born in 1926. The Panzer Division was formed in 1943, making the oldest conscripts 17 years old.

    • @renataostertag6051
      @renataostertag6051 2 года назад +1

      No, they were no older than 17 years old. Yes, they all were kids. Shame on those who recruited them and shame on those who fought them.
      Child abuse on a monstrous scale!

    • @commanderbacara225
      @commanderbacara225 2 года назад +1

      @@hkg207 While PzGr Regiment 25 definitely saw first action in April 1944, their panzergrenadiers were 17 when they were conscripted in 1943. That is still younger than the typical conscription age of 18, which by comparison was the legal drafting age the soviet union would conscript from in WWII.

    • @ronanmcdonald6386
      @ronanmcdonald6386 Год назад +1

      @@renataostertag6051 I wouldn't blame those who fought them, only those that sent these kids to die. Unless you have evidence otherwise, the Brits, Americans, and Soviets weren't to know they were fighting kids. Those who indoctrinated them, and those that sent them in to die are evil on the greatest scale.

  • @tramachi7027
    @tramachi7027 4 года назад +33

    Shermanator: *Avoids the name by any means neccessary*
    Vulcan: "What?"
    Oh I love you :D

  • @benlex5672
    @benlex5672 2 года назад +4

    I had a game where the firefly demolished the enemy phase A armours, which is definitely fun and worth it especially since it scouts for itself.

  • @sangvinhun
    @sangvinhun 4 года назад +10

    hope they will add other SD44 divs as well in time like 1st ss

  • @heraldyaxelevi8132
    @heraldyaxelevi8132 4 года назад +6

    Thanks for the video!
    Maybe a multiplayer match with this division?

  • @ginowittgrebe
    @ginowittgrebe 4 года назад +9

    Grille works good as a phase C card, if you bring in 6+ of them to the same spot. They demolish everything then in their range.

    • @maxspringfield
      @maxspringfield 4 года назад

      Ill have to try that. I would have thought armor would wreck a grille platoon.

  • @duke7052
    @duke7052 4 года назад +16

    This might be a dumb question: Do fighter/bombers gain speed after dropping their payloads?

  • @donovangray7518
    @donovangray7518 4 года назад +4

    so tje reason the firefly is in tje recon tab was becaise it was historicly assigned to the recon unit

  • @Estoph11
    @Estoph11 4 года назад +7

    The Feldgendarmerie here aren't here to stop people from being disheartened and running away. They lower the fanaticism and prevent constant charging with fixed bayonets. Very important.

  • @EngineVSEngine
    @EngineVSEngine 4 года назад +2

    Wow, that game was really intense..

  • @TheRazorTS
    @TheRazorTS 4 года назад +4

    like this one, looking forward to looong team gameplay video with this one ;) ;)

  • @thurbine2411
    @thurbine2411 2 года назад +1

    When will they add using the 210mm rockets vs enemy bombers? Probably would be either too op in game or a waste but it would be fun

  • @longstreet0163
    @longstreet0163 4 года назад +5

    Why has Eugen included included Panther tanks in the HJ roster ? The division's Panther Battalion was still working up at Mailly-le-camp at the time of the invasion and did not join them until after the Normandy campaign. HJ had to rely on it's Panzer IV H's alone.

  • @usg-647
    @usg-647 4 года назад +1

    Traktion fast car - use for sneaky A phase Panzerschrek fast ambush unit at the start
    Also now Opel Blitz are 80 km/h. Is that a decrease?

  • @stuntmen8540
    @stuntmen8540 3 года назад

    in SD 1 many tank have their commander model in the commander's cupola, why did it the dev remove it ?

  • @novinovinovigradi8851
    @novinovinovigradi8851 4 года назад +2

    My God, SIX 1-point tank slots. That infantry availability definitely hurts, though.

  • @GaspardFR
    @GaspardFR 4 года назад +1

    What happen if a never surrender units got pinned and then a normal units come in and get also pinned after. 2nd units will surrend to the fanatical then ?

    • @Flamechr
      @Flamechr 3 года назад

      Good question

  • @Cherb123456
    @Cherb123456 4 года назад

    Cool!

  • @theodorechill
    @theodorechill 2 года назад

    21:15 - Unfortunately they drastically nerfed availability of halftrack mortars.

  • @C.Bastien
    @C.Bastien 4 года назад +17

    Childrens goes to war... Yeah!

    • @hatem6116
      @hatem6116 4 года назад

      Volkssturm

    • @Evgenius7501
      @Evgenius7501 4 года назад +1

      @Gappie Al Kebabi What about Children's Crusade? Sent children to war since 1212

  • @Forestmarko
    @Forestmarko 4 года назад +1

    replace leader units - drop the one from the infrantry tab and take one from arty instead.

    • @thatnnja241
      @thatnnja241 3 года назад

      Can you tell me how the radio works like do you put the unit with radio near an target and they’ll just be more accurate?

    • @Forestmarko
      @Forestmarko 3 года назад

      @@thatnnja241 it allows for corrected artillery shots. This means that certain arty units (marked with an icon - in this division you can see it in the mortar half track, Hummel, s.FH 18 - etc.) can fire more accuratly and with significantly faster aim time within a certain radius.
      This radius is projected by most leader unit, arty observers and some arty units of (like the mortar half truck) - these also have a corresponding radio icon (check the card on the pionier fuhrer for example)
      It is advisable when going heavy on the arty, to have something near the front that can provide radio bonus as HE can be a real killer (you can easily kill the heaviest units in the game with a few direct arty hits)

    • @thatnnja241
      @thatnnja241 3 года назад

      Forestmarko thanks a ton man

  • @paintingwithmartin
    @paintingwithmartin Год назад

    I would't bring the supply as you can get "free" supply trucks for your 88s and artillery

  • @ivvan497
    @ivvan497 4 года назад +3

    Actually vulcan, G1 has worse agility because mediocre is worse than very bad according to eugen

  • @JH-wp1dq
    @JH-wp1dq 4 года назад +2

    Any counter to this monstrosity?

  • @ebusitanus
    @ebusitanus 4 года назад +13

    How come after all this time we still see Waffen SS troops with regular Heer uniforms. Pretty lazy imho. Also, Wittman was part of the Leibstandarte division, not the HJ. The shield on his tank is the one of the HJ. Did HJ even field Tigers, I do not think so.

    • @peterholzberger2929
      @peterholzberger2929 4 года назад +8

      Wittmanns Tigerunit was not from the 1division, it was a kind of independent heavy tankunit who fought with the 12 division at times. The shield on his tiger shows the double crossed key symbol, thats correct done. But you are right with the uniforms.

    • @longstreet0163
      @longstreet0163 4 года назад +2

      Wittmann's Tigers were supporting a 12th SS Panzer counter attack when he was killed. His unit (Schwere SS Panzer Abeilung 101) had the crossed keys with oak leaves symbol on all their Tigers. The HJ emblem was a single siegrunen "s" with a key through it.

  • @Ph33NIXx
    @Ph33NIXx 4 года назад +2

    Eh... the fanatic trade seems game breaking... take them in at higher vet and dont use leaders

  • @wolfschadow6399
    @wolfschadow6399 4 года назад

    Isn‘t mediocre agility worse than very bad agility?

  • @dutch0770
    @dutch0770 4 года назад +1

    My favorite div. tanks...tanks everywhere! Moooohahaha

  • @LordXehenniar
    @LordXehenniar 4 года назад

    This Division doesn't look broken at all.

  • @maxkennedy8075
    @maxkennedy8075 4 года назад +1

    The Wirbelwind is a mobile flakvilling with enough armour to stop PTRDs
    Oh yesssss thats tasty

  • @gialuquin88XD
    @gialuquin88XD 4 года назад +4

    Straffniky should have a similar trait, they were not allowed to surrender.

    • @simonisenberg4516
      @simonisenberg4516 4 года назад +1

      I hope and expect that they will add the trait to a few units in other divisions where it makes sense.

    • @jankubala659
      @jankubala659 3 года назад

      With NKVD, or some officer supervision perhaps, but that mechanic is already in the game. If no one is watching they surrender - Straffbatalions of the Germans are direct counterpart. For the equivalent of HJ fighting until the end on their own you would need some die-hard commies, something like combat NKVD, if stuff like that existed.

    • @iileross8398
      @iileross8398 3 года назад

      @@jankubala659 NKVD units did fight actively. Although they were pretty bad if I recall. Still might be cool though.

    • @jankubala659
      @jankubala659 3 года назад

      @@iileross8398 Thanks for the info. In that case, EugSys could add a combat variant to the one that is counterpart to the feldgendarmerie.

  • @darksigge9495
    @darksigge9495 4 года назад

    should not wittmans haw the nummber 007?

  • @Essah15
    @Essah15 4 года назад

    Spähtrupp is pronounced with a regular T, not a th like you're doing.

  • @lucaendres9210
    @lucaendres9210 4 года назад +3

    So I shall spend my money on already existing divisions who where just transferred to SD2 ??? This is so dumb...I can live with SD44

    • @Goofygooberston
      @Goofygooberston 4 года назад +1

      And you don't even get it with history pass, mind you. Honestly ridiculous.

  • @hallahavohej2464
    @hallahavohej2464 2 года назад

    So you think everything is over after the Treaty of Versailles?
    It's continue with "globalization"...multiculturasism
    Did'nt you know/understand?
    Poor you! You will see at the end, then you will understand but then It's to late! Sorry!