What a disappointing lack of horsemanship shown by these supposed "experts/horsemen". Totally illogical approach to training a horse - let's stick a roller on him and, when he is standing quietly, get a guy to run up behind him with a big whip and chase him until he stops bucking. No wonder the horse bucked and charged off, got the fright of his life!! I have worked in lots of racing and SJ yards and own to SJ'ers now so yes, I know what I am talking about. I've also broken in plenty single handedly and can confirm that stupid tactics as shown above are counter productive; a calm, step-by-step approach is much better and builds a foundation out of understanding rather than fear and shock.
It’s also abuse how this horse is so young and the bones are developed yet I literally saved an x-ray’s house and you can with so many problems because to get roped in so early
Really isn't a great way to go about it. Should do pressure and release. When you first bring it up let them smell it put it on them and when they stand still take it off. Put it on and off a few times so they learn this thing will come off. When you put it on give them time to smell it on them and as soon as they make a step THEN you send them off running, and when they stop and accept it and turn in to you you praise them for accepting it. And then continue with sending them around a few times maybe tighten a little bit if they're ok with it and then take it off. You don't want them scared of it in any way, you want it as a good experience.
There is training a youngster.. and then there is rushing them round on a constant circle, hate to think of how his joints are or what sort of pressure was put on them there and then chasing him constantly with a whip with no release should not be the way, there has to be some sort of release but not a constant cat and mouse chase.
I have an x-ray so horny as for me so many problems kissing spine leg problems arthritis and he is only 10 is so sad have a break them in the early when their bones are developed
Horrible. Yes, there is no need at all to frighten a young horse like this. It should all be done gently and with little rest/relief in between and do not let them buck!!!!! What they practice they get good at. These guys should be driving trucks not working with sensitive, intelligent expensive horses. I can hardly stand to watch. Qualifications to criticize? 12 years breaking to lead, breaking to ride and galloping on the racetrack. More yearlings than I can count broken in. Worked for just 3 years at Santa Anita and cured some very difficult horses of would be career ending bad habits.
I don't get it this is still a baby! mine is now almost 2,5 and i do some training groundwork but this?? NO WAY ah i understand it is all about the MONEY sickening
It's racing, sadly, this is what they do. Ever wonder why there are so many OTTB's with injuries, little or small. Horses are broken at age one, raced at two and so on. I'm not to keen on racing. Never had a thing for it actually, not interesting to me.
Thoroughbreds bones develop before most other breeds, yes you could argue that they are still mentally young and I agree yes they are but they love to run
Just watched them breaking in the new intake at Godolphin on RUclips after watching this pair of cowboys. Massive difference in the two operations, the horses at Godolphin seem happy and stress free while this yearling seems petrified.
you people are horrible trainers!!!! never ever scare a horse with a wip! Do you understand he is a baby and this is his first time. Not to mention your lunging is very sad.
Not sure how this is something any trainer is prepared to post representing their yard. All that is demonstrated here is lack of horsemanship skills and lack of respect for a horse. The bottom line to any horse training is have a mutual respect relationship between you and that horse. Not a relationship of fear.
These young horses are anxious to please and usually so easy to educate. You have to reward them not with food but with a release of pressure and a little rub on the head or scratch on the neck. Wait til he licks his lips and shows you he's relaxed before moving on to the next step. I can just hear these guys "I've been doing it this way for years" yeah you have been doing it wrong for years. Sorry but not sorry
So many things wrong with this. 1. This is a YEARLING, they should only be learning halter training 2. Before you start this your horse should know how to lunge, you shouldn’t have to wave a whip like a crazy person. 3. Your horse should stand still for you, this is very scary don’t chase them. 4. A SADDLE!!!!! There ONE. NO SADDLE NO RIDER You are ruining this horse.
I put a bareback pad on my 6 month old for something new to do. I did it by myself and she wasnt rushed. No bucking or her even being scared. This is a great way to ruin a horse. No need for this crap
isn't there a way to teach your horse to do that without chasing them around a ring with a whip? like positive reinforcement training? your horse might like you more.. and be more willing to learn.. also if that horse was to freak out with that thing so far back down his legs he could break one.. and he is to young for a ridder.. I would not be surprised if your horse has trust issues now. you guys are mean... you will get better, happier horse with positive reinforcement. I think anyway..
instead of scaring that horse to run with the whip get rid of it and lead it around with a rope and add a command slowly and use food..? maybe.. and slowly add new equiment.. or train it to touch its nose to the end of something and move it so it will follow it to do what you want..
THIS IS NOT OKAY!!!! U SHOULD BE ARRESTED OR AT LEAST CHARGED FOR HORSE ABUSE!!! YOU SHOULD NOT EVEN OWN WILDLIFE/Animals AND WHIPPING HIM LIKE THAT? ANSWER MY QUESTION!
Really disorganized - two people isn't necessary actually and I have no idea what you're teaching here. Probably one of the lousiest videos I've seen. Huh. There's a lot better ways to do this and whatever. Shaking my head as to the methods here, I know it's racing I believe you're prepping him for but this doesn't make sense to me.
Horses shouldn't be broken in until they're four or five, at the very least ridden lightly at three. This isn't an opinion, it is proven by several vets that a horse's leg joints are not fully developed until they are four years old and shouldn't be ridden at an age younger than that. This poor horse is going to have loads of problems now, being broken in at a year old. And chasing a horse around is a terrible way to train them. This is giving the horse a bad association with tack and riding and will not be happy being a riding horse after retirement from racing. Of course race horse people won't care for the horse's well being. They just want money, they don't care if they break this baby's legs.
Just a question. Have you ever broken a thoroughbred. I thought not. If you don’t start them at 2 they become too smart for their own good. Then have fun breaking them because you have to break them
you can lunge him but if he's weak you can't put on him a saddle. It's all about horse body and bonds if the horse is strong enough to hold the saddle and you no problem. It's really bad to ride horse that don't want you to ride him. And about the training this is not training this is unhumanity and Unprofessional lunging to build trust between you and your horse but this is destroying your horse personality 🙄
@@phoenixequestrian496 I'm guessing you mean that by the time they are 2, they might realize how shit they are being treated and will start fight back, while if they have learned helplessness by then, you don't actually have to treat them right, as they will just accept it. Don't fool yourself, or anyone else, a thoroughbred can be trained to accept a rider at any age, without force or pain, if you are just willing to put in the time.
That whip wouldn't even hurt! It's just an extension of your arm. The problem here is the age of the horse. it's 1 year old, which means it's growth plates are not fused and this kind of work will do irreversible damage. this horse will break down later in life because of it. but hey, as long as they make a shitload of money it's ok, right?
Never have I seen such aggression in a method. Can see why horse is resisting. All that chasing & whipping can't be typical & leave a horse forever nervous. All unnecessary.
I really just think they are scaring the horse. They aren't accomplishing a whole lot. I don't get why they have a guy chasing him around with a whip. I see nothing wrong with using a whip but they should only be used when needed. For example getting the horse to step of and once they do that stop. Then I would only use it to turn them or keep them at the same speed. The fact that the horse is only a yearling disgusts me he should be out in a pasture with other horses.
Horrendous display of behaviour from these guys. Like watching a rodeo. Horses expression is one of fear whilst having it's legs hit and chased. Seen plenty of horses broken in but never like these cowboys do it
“Never let an under 40 brake a horse; because they will fight a problem not think. Some one older will find away around the problem. Life isn’t worth the stress.” (Old adage) A few horse men & women are sighing. One must Chuckle, that two young men are needed to to do, what it takes one 50 year old man. A bulk system for training for racing… still..
This is so awful these horses are broken into early The bones haven’t developed a no cause so much problem in the future I know as I have an x-ray source as well you can see his leg shaking and his heart beating so fast you’re so scared
So if you are ever going to back a youngster, watch this video, it you think this is how is done, don't bother trying, get yourself a cat and take up painting by numbers. This is one of the worst I've seen. The worst part is, they believe they are the best training hard and actually posting this to promote their training. Ignorant and poor horsemanship. Sadly people will think this is how all race yards do it, sadly not, started like this in many poor training hard. Want to learn what not to do, then this is the video for you.
No wonder they have ulcers and are broken down if they make it to a rescue after racing. If the point is to accept a roller, you could just put it on him in his stall all day or in the pasture. This gross violence isn’t necessary. Shame on you for choosing speed over care.
It's completely normal for a horse to buck like that and he isn't wiping him he is hitting the floor I have a horse and that's what has to happen when you break them in
@@stephanievaldez6285 Wow your reply on this comment genuinely makes me sad. You're really saying that wanting a slower and fairer training method for the horse is due to lack of horse knowledge? You're okay with horses being trained in a way that the only reason they "accept" anything is because they are absolutely exhausted? You might think I don't know anything about horses, but I don't think you know anything about kindness to animals.
To all you people saying this is horse abuse it's not..... I mean if he's going to be auctioned off many people will be using whips on the horses so they're probably getting him ready and used to that.... AND he loosened up to the girth and roller after he got used to it he was back to running like he was in the first part of the video so please stop saying this like dang if you don't know anything to don't claim stuff you're not sure about XD
I'm not a trainer or professional or anything and this is just my opinion i know he looks frightened but isn't he too young anyway to be broken in? Also really you supposed to do day by day? I'm not impressed by this training method
You can put a saddle on and rollers and such, just not the actually rider because their bones aren’t fused until 2.5 - 3 years old. I will agree with you that this training method is not impressive by no means.
Iv been in the horse industry my whole life mum and dad broke horses in for a living and iv been riding ex race horses my whole life and kinda the right method but this needs to b done over like 6-8 weeks not one ride
Votre méthode de débourrage est horrible, il je faut pas aimer le. cheval pour agir ainsi. Je vous proposerai bien mes services, je pense que. vous n'en seriez pas digne.
horses are prey animals. if YOU were a PREY animal and you were taken by predatory beings, put in a confined space and CHASED after with a cracking whip, with something around your belly and rump that you've clearly NEVER had any sort of preparation for or exposure to, when it could be a predator trying to eat you... you would be scared. dont you dare say otherwise because you'd be putting yourself out for a fool.
What a disappointing lack of horsemanship shown by these supposed "experts/horsemen". Totally illogical approach to training a horse - let's stick a roller on him and, when he is standing quietly, get a guy to run up behind him with a big whip and chase him until he stops bucking. No wonder the horse bucked and charged off, got the fright of his life!! I have worked in lots of racing and SJ yards and own to SJ'ers now so yes, I know what I am talking about. I've also broken in plenty single handedly and can confirm that stupid tactics as shown above are counter productive; a calm, step-by-step approach is much better and builds a foundation out of understanding rather than fear and shock.
There is no excuse absolutely none to be actually whipping his legs. I can't believe what I'm watching
It’s also abuse how this horse is so young and the bones are developed yet I literally saved an x-ray’s house and you can with so many problems because to get roped in so early
Cry harder, this is how it’s done, and what did you think a riding whip was even made for!? 😂
I have never trained a horse but I know for a fact that isn't how you do it, you can clearly see that the horse is scared
Lucy Flaherty I'd like to see u try to train one
I bet horses get more scared when u sit on them . You'll break there back
This is how
I broke several 2 year olds there rushing the breaking in and ruining a young horse for life haven't a clue
Really isn't a great way to go about it. Should do pressure and release. When you first bring it up let them smell it put it on them and when they stand still take it off. Put it on and off a few times so they learn this thing will come off. When you put it on give them time to smell it on them and as soon as they make a step THEN you send them off running, and when they stop and accept it and turn in to you you praise them for accepting it. And then continue with sending them around a few times maybe tighten a little bit if they're ok with it and then take it off. You don't want them scared of it in any way, you want it as a good experience.
There is training a youngster.. and then there is rushing them round on a constant circle, hate to think of how his joints are or what sort of pressure was put on them there and then chasing him constantly with a whip with no release should not be the way, there has to be some sort of release but not a constant cat and mouse chase.
I have an x-ray so horny as for me so many problems kissing spine leg problems arthritis and he is only 10 is so sad have a break them in the early when their bones are developed
All he did was capture a nervous mind. Exactly what you don't want to do.
That horse is scared, there is no pressure and release just contant pressure.
YES! I was at least expecting them to use pressure and release but there was NO release!
This is truly a disgrace, an archaic and outdated way to break down a horse into submission.
Old school is better.. get a tissue
Horrible. Yes, there is no need at all to frighten a young horse like this. It should all be done gently and with little rest/relief in between and do not let them buck!!!!! What they practice they get good at. These guys should be driving trucks not working with sensitive, intelligent expensive horses. I can hardly stand to watch. Qualifications to criticize? 12 years breaking to lead, breaking to ride and galloping on the racetrack. More yearlings than I can count broken in. Worked for just 3 years at Santa Anita and cured some very difficult horses of would be career ending bad habits.
I don't get it this is still a baby! mine is now almost 2,5 and i do some training groundwork but this?? NO WAY ah i understand it is all about the MONEY sickening
It's racing, sadly, this is what they do. Ever wonder why there are so many OTTB's with injuries, little or small. Horses are broken at age one, raced at two and so on. I'm not to keen on racing. Never had a thing for it actually, not interesting to me.
Skewbakdpotty123w you are absolutely RIGHT ABOUT THAT SO WELL SAID
Thoroughbreds bones develop before most other breeds, yes you could argue that they are still mentally young and I agree yes they are but they love to run
Sharlette Blue they’re FORCED to run.
Everyone has their own opinion I personally think it depends on the horse, breed,and mental state.
what kind of training is THIS?! horse looked scared out of its mind!
You don’t understand
Safe? The facility is safe? He was whipping the horse constantly! Yeah, not safe.
Two men to train one horse? Looks like the Keystone Cops.
This is wrong. You don’t need 2 people in the round pen and if you teach him correctly you would know that you don’t hardly need the whip.
Who is the beast?
Just watched them breaking in the new intake at Godolphin on RUclips after watching this pair of cowboys. Massive difference in the two operations, the horses at Godolphin seem happy and stress free while this yearling seems petrified.
Exactly.There are gentler less confrontational ways to capture a horse's attention.
Absolute Retards, yes the Godolphin way of educating yearlings is perfect, this video should be removed it’s hideous!
you people are horrible trainers!!!! never ever scare a horse with a wip! Do you understand he is a baby and this is his first time. Not to mention your lunging is very sad.
***** exactly!!😫 it's just too sad to watch for me😣
Poor baby, he is really scared
dude he pooped because he is scared of you people!
Horses poop all the time lol
Amber Binderup horses poop when they’re scared. It is a natural response to fear of any prey animal.
Not sure how this is something any trainer is prepared to post representing their yard. All that is demonstrated here is lack of horsemanship skills and lack of respect for a horse. The bottom line to any horse training is have a mutual respect relationship between you and that horse. Not a relationship of fear.
These young horses are anxious to please and usually so easy to educate. You have to reward them not with food but with a release of pressure and a little rub on the head or scratch on the neck. Wait til he licks his lips and shows you he's relaxed before moving on to the next step. I can just hear these guys "I've been doing it this way for years" yeah you have been doing it wrong for years. Sorry but not sorry
So many things wrong with this.
1. This is a YEARLING, they should only be learning halter training
2. Before you start this your horse should know how to lunge, you shouldn’t have to wave a whip like a crazy person.
3. Your horse should stand still for you, this is very scary don’t chase them.
4. A SADDLE!!!!! There ONE. NO SADDLE NO RIDER
You are ruining this horse.
I put a bareback pad on my 6 month old for something new to do. I did it by myself and she wasnt rushed. No bucking or her even being scared. This is a great way to ruin a horse. No need for this crap
No wonder TBs are so hyper, everything half done quickly and loads of shouting to get them going on lunge? Why?
English aggression.
I absolutely hate this. This isn’t the way to train a horse.
isn't there a way to teach your horse to do that without chasing them around a ring with a whip? like positive reinforcement training? your horse might like you more.. and be more willing to learn.. also if that horse was to freak out with that thing so far back down his legs he could break one.. and he is to young for a ridder.. I would not be surprised if your horse has trust issues now. you guys are mean... you will get better, happier horse with positive reinforcement. I think anyway..
instead of scaring that horse to run with the whip get rid of it and lead it around with a rope and add a command slowly and use food..? maybe.. and slowly add new equiment.. or train it to touch its nose to the end of something and move it so it will follow it to do what you want..
You said to hit him RUDE
poor horse you are taking this way to fast slow down with the poor horse you scared the living life out of him!!!
THIS IS NOT OKAY!!!! U SHOULD BE ARRESTED OR AT LEAST CHARGED FOR HORSE ABUSE!!! YOU SHOULD NOT EVEN OWN WILDLIFE/Animals AND WHIPPING HIM LIKE THAT? ANSWER MY QUESTION!
Really disorganized - two people isn't necessary actually and I have no idea what you're teaching here. Probably one of the lousiest videos I've seen. Huh. There's a lot better ways to do this and whatever. Shaking my head as to the methods here, I know it's racing I believe you're prepping him for but this doesn't make sense to me.
I'm surprised that they haven't been kicked yet
Great job sir. Keep safe❤
Horses shouldn't be broken in until they're four or five, at the very least ridden lightly at three. This isn't an opinion, it is proven by several vets that a horse's leg joints are not fully developed until they are four years old and shouldn't be ridden at an age younger than that. This poor horse is going to have loads of problems now, being broken in at a year old.
And chasing a horse around is a terrible way to train them. This is giving the horse a bad association with tack and riding and will not be happy being a riding horse after retirement from racing.
Of course race horse people won't care for the horse's well being. They just want money, they don't care if they break this baby's legs.
Armored Wings ummm 4 or 5? So you're telling me they shouldn't be lunged or gotten used to a saddle till they're 4?
4 or 5? You are ignorant. Dumb ass.
Just a question. Have you ever broken a thoroughbred. I thought not. If you don’t start them at 2 they become too smart for their own good. Then have fun breaking them because you have to break them
you can lunge him but if he's weak you can't put on him a saddle. It's all about horse body and bonds if the horse is strong enough to hold the saddle and you no problem. It's really bad to ride horse that don't want you to ride him. And about the training this is not training this is unhumanity and Unprofessional lunging to build trust between you and your horse but this is destroying your horse personality 🙄
@@phoenixequestrian496 I'm guessing you mean that by the time they are 2, they might realize how shit they are being treated and will start fight back, while if they have learned helplessness by then, you don't actually have to treat them right, as they will just accept it. Don't fool yourself, or anyone else, a thoroughbred can be trained to accept a rider at any age, without force or pain, if you are just willing to put in the time.
That whip wouldn't even hurt! It's just an extension of your arm. The problem here is the age of the horse. it's 1 year old, which means it's growth plates are not fused and this kind of work will do irreversible damage. this horse will break down later in life because of it. but hey, as long as they make a shitload of money it's ok, right?
Never have I seen such aggression in a method. Can see why horse is resisting. All that chasing & whipping can't be typical & leave a horse forever nervous. All unnecessary.
I really just think they are scaring the horse. They aren't accomplishing a whole lot. I don't get why they have a guy chasing him around with a whip. I see nothing wrong with using a whip but they should only be used when needed. For example getting the horse to step of and once they do that stop. Then I would only use it to turn them or keep them at the same speed. The fact that the horse is only a yearling disgusts me he should be out in a pasture with other horses.
Very interesting and educational video, great job. Shame the comment section is a meltdown of Karens who haven’t stepped outside of a city.
Horrendous display of behaviour from these guys. Like watching a rodeo. Horses expression is one of fear whilst having it's legs hit and chased. Seen plenty of horses broken in but never like these cowboys do it
“Never let an under 40 brake a horse; because they will fight a problem not think.
Some one older will find away around the problem. Life isn’t worth the stress.” (Old adage)
A few horse men & women are sighing. One must Chuckle, that two young men are needed to to do, what it takes one 50 year old man. A bulk system for training for racing… still..
As much as I don't like racing they are not doing anything to hurt him so stop leaving hate
Idea is to totally break it so it's always scared of people
Breaking them kind of young aren’t you
Yes I have an x-ray source and he has so many problems from this their bones are in develop chat is awful
I think,. If not that run first, but on Field ,, and comfort, zone,. With us
This is so awful these horses are broken into early The bones haven’t developed a no cause so much problem in the future I know as I have an x-ray source as well you can see his leg shaking and his heart beating so fast you’re so scared
So if you are ever going to back a youngster, watch this video, it you think this is how is done, don't bother trying, get yourself a cat and take up painting by numbers. This is one of the worst I've seen. The worst part is, they believe they are the best training hard and actually posting this to promote their training. Ignorant and poor horsemanship. Sadly people will think this is how all race yards do it, sadly not, started like this in many poor training hard. Want to learn what not to do, then this is the video for you.
What on earth did I just watch
It’s not and u wait til they are two or tree not one their body can’t handle it
No wonder they have ulcers and are broken down if they make it to a rescue after racing. If the point is to accept a roller, you could just put it on him in his stall all day or in the pasture. This gross violence isn’t necessary. Shame on you for choosing speed over care.
This Is what I do with my youngsters it gets them going forward less questioning to you
Tf did I just watch. This is not how you do it, kids.
It's completely normal for a horse to buck like that and he isn't wiping him he is hitting the floor I have a horse and that's what has to happen when you break them in
you are an idiot
Jazmin Taylor exactly they cant get it into their thick heads
Jazmin Taylor this is true .. some people just don't know a thing about horses and anything is animal abuse for them .
@@stephanievaldez6285 Wow your reply on this comment genuinely makes me sad. You're really saying that wanting a slower and fairer training method for the horse is due to lack of horse knowledge? You're okay with horses being trained in a way that the only reason they "accept" anything is because they are absolutely exhausted? You might think I don't know anything about horses, but I don't think you know anything about kindness to animals.
Horrendous. Absolutely disgusting, this is exactly how to NOT break in a horse.
Ridiculous
This is awful!!!! Seriously people. There are so many more ways to do this!
To all you people saying this is horse abuse it's not..... I mean if he's going to be auctioned off many people will be using whips on the horses so they're probably getting him ready and used to that.... AND he loosened up to the girth and roller after he got used to it he was back to running like he was in the first part of the video so please stop saying this like dang if you don't know anything to don't claim stuff you're not sure about XD
Facts.
I'm not a trainer or professional or anything and this is just my opinion i know he looks frightened but isn't he too young anyway to be broken in? Also really you supposed to do day by day?
I'm not impressed by this training method
You can put a saddle on and rollers and such, just not the actually rider because their bones aren’t fused until 2.5 - 3 years old. I will agree with you that this training method is not impressive by no means.
Iv been in the horse industry my whole life mum and dad broke horses in for a living and iv been riding ex race horses my whole life and kinda the right method but this needs to b done over like 6-8 weeks not one ride
Cowboys
Absolutely horrible and very rushed
You are not winning any friends for racing! Take it off! Get some training in Natural Horsemanship.
🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️ poor horse
And I train horses so I know
Wow thats animal abuse not training
damn this is wrong, try an gain trust first with the horse buddy , please take this video off utube ,
Votre méthode de débourrage est horrible, il je faut pas aimer le. cheval pour agir ainsi. Je vous proposerai bien mes services, je pense que. vous n'en seriez pas digne.
It's a race horse they race as 2 year olds and it's how they train race horses
guys calm down this is how lots of horses react to saddles it's just that he is younger
that's not how you do it HAHA
i get there's different methods but this is sickening ! they've given no preparation and just thrown this horse in the deep end
IS WRONG
he we wastent scaird
should've gone to spec savers omfg
horses are prey animals. if YOU were a PREY animal and you were taken by predatory beings, put in a confined space and CHASED after with a cracking whip, with something around your belly and rump that you've clearly NEVER had any sort of preparation for or exposure to, when it could be a predator trying to eat you... you would be scared. dont you dare say otherwise because you'd be putting yourself out for a fool.