Hey! It works since there is a bypass valve (suction feeding line) and engines can use it for gravity/suction feeding. However it puts a good amount of wear and tear on the fuel system and reduces its longevity. Cheers
See that this is a really old post, but I’ve seen your name on other aircraft related items. I know that your question is retorical because you seem like you generally know your shit, so I couldnt help my self but to answer with this; ruclips.net/video/c2_xWTSyCuU/видео.html 😂😉
If I was you, I'd go something like this:- 1. Left fuel pump on 2. Recirculation fans on 3. APU Start 4. APU Bleed On 5. All fuel pumps on 6. Rotating beacon on 7. Left and Right packs off 8. ENG 2 start valve to GND N2- 25 Fuel supply on Wait for the N1 to rise till 17 and then Start valve would autometically turn to the off position 9. Same procedure for Engine 1 10. Engine bleed on 11. Apu bleed off 12. Packs on 13. Engine bus power on 14. APU off 15. Engine start valves to Cont. 16. Flaps- Set 17. Parking brakes- disarmed 18. Engine hydraulics- Check 19. Window heaters- Check 20. Auto brake- RTO 21. Taxi lights- on 22. Positioning lights- Steady
I am flying right now KIAH to KMSP. All went well and the start was good but, packs stayed off and APU on during the cockpit and CDU set up. I will refine this procedure best I can. One thing I did not know about until recently was in the CDU there is a Maintenance page where I can add Ground Power and Ground Air. Having these activated was a big help.
Lots of missed steps. Big one the most notable is engine 2 is normally the first you fire. Should wait longer to. The N1 was not up enough. But hey nice set up. Just need some practice
Holy crap i hope no one tries this in a real plane. I know its just a sim, but you DO NOT just flip the battery and fuel pump switches then start the APU. If you dont check the position of all other system switches first your gonna be in a lot of trouble.
Funny thing about this is that after I start the APU then turn the packs to auto my PSI drops dramatically. Once this happens I cant get the PSI back for starts, even when packs are turned off which they are for starts. This might be something in the ProSim program and I know its a huge issue on the forum.
Sounds like a sim fault, but if your plan is to start the engines, right after you started your apu, you should keep your packs switches in the off position till you have started the engines anyway😉
So you got your apu bleed ON, and when you turn your packs to AUTO you lose your duct press (psi)? Whats your psi value before and after switching to AUTO? And when you put your packs back to OFF you dont get your duct press (psi) back? 🤔
there is nothing wrong to takeoff with wing anti-ice on. wing anti-ice valve will close when takeoff thrust is set and the switch will automatically move to off after lift off
@@Frabusne I'm learning the 73 right now. While what you say is true, there still isn't a reason to turn it on. Unless I'm wrong, just an interesting decision.
@@erauprcwa it’s not an interesting decision, it’s written on the books. if icing or freezing conditions exist at the time of taxi, and the aircraft will not be treated (de/anti iced) ENG + WING anti ice must be activated. FCTM, so Boeing, recommends this saying to refer to the FCOM.
@@speedbird9313 I came here because I and a lot of other people with ProSim have problems with engine start failures. I was kind of at wits end trying to figure out the issue. I found if the packs are on during APU start I will not be able to generate enough psi to turn the engines. So its packs off for APU and engine start. Sadly I got no help from this vid. Not knocking it, just saying.
@@mikestout5332 I see🙃The pack switches can be on during apu start, it wouldnt make any difference since you need bleed air from the apu to run the packs. You’ll only use battery power or ground power for apu start, no air😊 It just wouldnt make sence to have those switches on🤷🏻♂️You’ll have your apu bleed switch in the off pos till you have air supplied from the apu (take about a minute after apu start-up) anyway. But like you said, the packs switches should be off during engine start to give maximum air supply to the engine start valve.
@@speedbird9313 I think it something with ProSim. I have researched it and there are hundreds of posts regarding it. I might have it worked out now, fingers crossed. Its in the procedure that makes it a start no start.
I'm trying to make inexpensive panels for people like us, who ca't afford to spend a fortune. I'm at the very beginning I hope I can do something good. I have a couple of useless videos on my channel
You have to turn off the Elec hydraulic pumps but he had forgotten the engine hydraulic pumps they have to be turned on before and after engine start and the whole flight they even will not turned off after engine shutdown
Do you have any idea what are you doing?
How do you start both engines with only 1 left side fuel pump on?
Hey! It works since there is a bypass valve (suction feeding line) and engines can use it for gravity/suction feeding. However it puts a good amount of wear and tear on the fuel system and reduces its longevity. Cheers
This guy doesnt know shit about starting this plane, ive never seen anyone start an engine with one pump on, only the apu
@@Feltic but he gots fuck#%g setup
See that this is a really old post, but I’ve seen your name on other aircraft related items. I know that your question is retorical because you seem like you generally know your shit, so I couldnt help my self but to answer with this; ruclips.net/video/c2_xWTSyCuU/видео.html 😂😉
If I was you, I'd go something like this:-
1. Left fuel pump on
2. Recirculation fans on
3. APU Start
4. APU Bleed On
5. All fuel pumps on
6. Rotating beacon on
7. Left and Right packs off
8. ENG 2 start valve to GND
N2- 25
Fuel supply on
Wait for the N1 to rise till 17 and then Start valve would autometically turn to the off position
9. Same procedure for Engine 1
10. Engine bleed on
11. Apu bleed off
12. Packs on
13. Engine bus power on
14. APU off
15. Engine start valves to Cont.
16. Flaps- Set
17. Parking brakes- disarmed
18. Engine hydraulics- Check
19. Window heaters- Check
20. Auto brake- RTO
21. Taxi lights- on
22. Positioning lights- Steady
Wait, how was engine 2 able to start without the right fuel pumps on and no cross feed valve opened?
why you selected the switches of hydraulic EDP? I knew that the swicthes are normally in the ON position.
Now this is awesome set up. Something like this for say a DC3 or a classic 747 with the flight engineer panel would be cool to see.
I am flying right now KIAH to KMSP. All went well and the start was good but, packs stayed off and APU on during the cockpit and CDU set up. I will refine this procedure best I can. One thing I did not know about until recently was in the CDU there is a Maintenance page where I can add Ground Power and Ground Air. Having these activated was a big help.
just a tip start the no 2 engine first as the apu takes fuel out of the left tank starting the second engine first will resolve the imbalance
Charlie Sierra Maybe you should read what he actually wrote one more time..
Lots of missed steps. Big one the most notable is engine 2 is normally the first you fire. Should wait longer to. The N1 was not up enough. But hey nice set up. Just need some practice
wrong it depends on air bridge, external power, carts etc. On pushback whats wrong with engine 1 first??? Dont throw out half knowledge.
Thanks, I got to know how to restart an engine in x plane 11!
Your N1 was much too low to introduce fuel. You'd produce a "hot start" in the real aircraft.
No need for discussion, just look at Master Caution light. Man, too much money on a sim just to do it horribly wrong?
It was only the flt cont warning, because Yaw Damper wasn't engaged yet.
Nothing wrong with the Master Caution light...
Idiot
That’s why the PF and PNF do a recall on the before taxi checklist and confirm that there are no warnings.
Holy crap i hope no one tries this in a real plane. I know its just a sim, but you DO NOT just flip the battery and fuel pump switches then start the APU. If you dont check the position of all other system switches first your gonna be in a lot of trouble.
Funny thing about this is that after I start the APU then turn the packs to auto my PSI drops dramatically. Once this happens I cant get the PSI back for starts, even when packs are turned off which they are for starts. This might be something in the ProSim program and I know its a huge issue on the forum.
Sounds like a sim fault, but if your plan is to start the engines, right after you started your apu, you should keep your packs switches in the off position till you have started the engines anyway😉
So you got your apu bleed ON, and when you turn your packs to AUTO you lose your duct press (psi)? Whats your psi value before and after switching to AUTO? And when you put your packs back to OFF you dont get your duct press (psi) back? 🤔
Показал как не надо запускать ))😂
where did you get the overhead panel for your sim?
Wing heat for takeoff is a no-no
there is nothing wrong to takeoff with wing anti-ice on.
wing anti-ice valve will close when takeoff thrust is set and the switch will automatically move to off after lift off
@@Frabusne I'm learning the 73 right now. While what you say is true, there still isn't a reason to turn it on. Unless I'm wrong, just an interesting decision.
@@erauprcwa it’s not an interesting decision, it’s written on the books.
if icing or freezing conditions exist at the time of taxi, and the aircraft will not be treated (de/anti iced) ENG + WING anti ice must be activated.
FCTM, so Boeing, recommends this saying to refer to the FCOM.
Is it me or did he just start the plane without the fuel pumps on
No, he just started the eng #2 with the aft LH fuel pump on with the crossfeed valve closed🤨😂🤷🏻♂️
Nah bra. U trippin😂😂😂
Am not flying no where wit u..
Also the isis isn’t even for the 737 it is auctually the pfd for Cessna planes I’m pretty sure
I think I did work out the procedure but I will confirm it today. Going to try today.
Just dont follow what ever it was this guy was doing..😆😉
@@speedbird9313 I came here because I and a lot of other people with ProSim have problems with engine start failures. I was kind of at wits end trying to figure out the issue. I found if the packs are on during APU start I will not be able to generate enough psi to turn the engines. So its packs off for APU and engine start. Sadly I got no help from this vid. Not knocking it, just saying.
@@mikestout5332 I see🙃The pack switches can be on during apu start, it wouldnt make any difference since you need bleed air from the apu to run the packs. You’ll only use battery power or ground power for apu start, no air😊
It just wouldnt make sence to have those switches on🤷🏻♂️You’ll have your apu bleed switch in the off pos till you have air supplied from the apu (take about a minute after apu start-up) anyway. But like you said, the packs switches should be off during engine start to give maximum air supply to the engine start valve.
All that equipment with a small monitor?????
hye bro.its a nice video there. really need to know where did u get that cockpit? kindly reply me bro, appreciate that!
Where can I buy one of those? lol
Nice straight-foward video and awesome cockpit, mind telling us how/ where did you get it?
No need for probe heat elc pumps need to be pushed when you have ac power and fuel pumps before engine start up
Why would you upload when the video is so wrong?
where did you get that
But how do you start using the other engine?
I want to get this. Where did you get this?
Fault apu bleed from engines 1-2, Recirc Fan
Where did you buy the cockpit?
He just made
master caution alert set? I wouldn't take off like that
Wrong procedure, don’t follow
3:50 get a better master cut light
The MC light is actually quite accurate
Cool and dark...
Forget fuel pump !! Haha great video :)
Ulrik Brun Wrong! R/L/C pumps all need to be on on order for the fuel to get I to the engine
Some mistake sequence of procedures
The packs?
Old post, but🤷🏻♂️ The pack switches should be off during engine start..one thing he actually got right😆
@@speedbird9313 Yeah
I was having trouble starting mine and now I am more confused than ever.
Whats the problem?🤔
@@speedbird9313 I think it something with ProSim. I have researched it and there are hundreds of posts regarding it. I might have it worked out now, fingers crossed. Its in the procedure that makes it a start no start.
@@mikestout5332 Aha..so you got the start up procedure figured out?🤔
Turn on all fuel pumps and it should work easier
mcv, i need that thing your using so bad, i hope its not to expensive xD
I'm trying to make inexpensive panels for people like us, who ca't afford to spend a fortune. I'm at the very beginning I hope I can do something good. I have a couple of useless videos on my channel
No explanations/comments unfortunately
Omg 😮 please read the manual!!!
Dont think he has access to any manuals🤭😉
Nice sound
Tech crew to read the check list
.... Please
He did it incorrectly
This is not how you should start the engines at all
I want ur setup
It works for me in x plane 10 but it can’t start cuz of low pressure
Bruh i want that
what the hell is that? you are doing it all wrong
thank you.
hold apu button for 3second
Nice sim
Why you turn of hy.....elec
Off*
You have to turn off the Elec hydraulic pumps but he had forgotten the engine hydraulic pumps they have to be turned on before and after engine start and the whole flight they even will not turned off after engine shutdown
Not the correct start up procedure
я тоже такое хочу
I know that tv and simulator
Perfect Video ;)
that look so expensive
to many mistakes
😂
Wtf are u doing
Anti ice at 10000 factivate
wrong
Completely wrong