meaning that if someone truly did enter the nil number before finishing the game, then we've truly found the Frayer. Try as we might to imitate the act of fraying through video games, perhaps this is a way to find one who can truly defy time, one who can assist us in reaching true freedom.
@@Nominal_GDP The game sets up you, the Player as a "Frayer," as a godlike being who leads mortals to freedom. By giving you an answer to the nil number, it sets up a way for you to have a small power fantasy for a 'better' ending. But that just lets the Player pretend that they're special, that we are the 'chosen ones' who have 'achieved enlightenment'. Because if there really is a Frayer out there, in our world, they don't have to play the game. They'll already know, before the game explicitly tells you that nil number.
actually, it’s not based on your save, but your “copy” of the game. you can start a new game from scratch and input the code the first time you come across this section, without having gotten to the end yet. and of course that doesn’t make sense, how can the frayer know something that hasn’t been shown yet, as well as all the details of the case? but really, that’s just one of the seams of this world.
@@Nominal_GDP I guess I feel the same but the reason is, Uchikoshi has already done this like in almost every game he has touched so seeing it again for like 7th time is just sorta like. "Ah, this again" I suppose this is probably only the 3rd time that he actually breaks the 4th wall though and says that the player is the one that can control destiny and whatnot.
Well you just made me remember, Parallel worlds were already discussed in the first game. Naix is mentioned too. So Iris was right all along. She talks a lot of bullshit, maybe everything is right lol
@@Mugsi The rabbit hole for this ending goes deeper if you complete the Twitter ARG using the new final dummy entry unlocked in the Appendix by completing this route. Inputing its entry number into the website the ARG leads to results in a text exposition that explains Iris was part of a project involving exploring and contacting external and parallel worlds using Frayer interactions and seams in simulated reality. She's forgotten about all of this since then, for one reason or another. Iris Sagan, subconsciously, knows more about the true nature of reality than most characters in the series.
So Tokiko only reveals the nil number after the nirvana initiative fails, she knows the person in control of the simulation can go back through the flowchart somehow. In the hope of catching that persons attention, she leaves a hint with the frayer question, along with "asking the person within." If they know the nil number then she knows the initiative failed. She uses the nil number as a backup plan and to break the world and reach moksha, she's proven right and gets to go free in exchange for the initiative never happening and preventing the suffering many people went through... It's kinda like a bribe or plea bargain. Atleast she's polite enough to stay behind and explain some of it.
Not exactly The Nil number plan is not a backup plan: it’s her one and only plan that she ultimately succeeds in making into a reality. Everything that’s happened - it all happened so the Frayer(play on the pronunciation of the word player in japanese) would hear the hologram say the nil number so then they could tell it to her and create a seam in the world. That can easily be proved when replaying the last battle at the stadium. To be more specific the scene after two Mizukis stop the tc-perge rocket: Tearer’s video gets cut off and Tokiko appears saying that the plan was successful. She never intended for the Nirvana Initiative to succeed - it had to have failed for her own plan to work. So when she was saying that she actually was correct - the plan never failed because later she was able to give the frayer nil number that they will use later(or earlier, depends on how you look at it)
@@trivia_dex Oh, I always thought it was a way for Tokiko to say "screw everyone else I'm abandoning ship" so that she could escape alone just incase the initiative failed.
I love too that knowing the future gives you the best possible outcome with no deaths or jail for any of the characters, but because it just happened easily and because you didnt "earn" that ending you still feel unfulfilled. It's not "correct" and doesnt bring you happiness like Tokiko says despite being the the best possible timeline
Yeah despite being the "best" ending now Ryuki knows his existence technically isn't real and that everyone he knows is just part of a computer program
What blew my mind about this ending is how absolutely helpless I felt. In a game series full of things where you learn one thing in a branch, and go back to a different branch to fill in the blank information, it seemed like the natural thing to do here. I was a pretty strong opposer to Tokiko’s philosophy, not a complete hater, but I didn’t agree. I wanted to prove her wrong. So it felt like I fell into a trap with this ending. Perform the same routine, learn information from a different timeline and apply it somewhere else. No other character would question the fact that your main character somehow knew this despite the fact that they definitely shouldn’t. Finally, a character who questions you. For 6 years, she spends her time setting a trap for you. You don’t realize it, but you have just proved her right. I felt like I was a cat chasing a mouse, and when I finally catch it my owner picks me up and reprimands me for bringing a stinky dead rodent into their home. What was I expecting? I tore at the seams of the cloth and a hole appeared. It was honestly incredible to experience.
its what I realised not long after entering in the number, the biggest moment is that...Tokiko, Chikara, Uru, character YOU'VE been told to hate, and to go against, have been right this whole time...but as to weather this proves Tokikos theory correct fully, or weather its a link to ZE, is another mystery...Tokiko dissapearing, Ryuki remembering the events of a future timeline...all things that happen in ZE...so...I wonder
the scariest thing about this ending is that tokiko was right all along. she DID need to make uru kill all those people and attempt to end humanity as a whole in this world in order to save it. her meddling and the half body serial killings were actually the things to save so many lives.
Hands down one of the coolest things in a game I’ve witness, the unique nil number is even better cause you can’t cheat to get it. I wish there were more to delve in that timeline but hopefully when they do the third game.
not every day you have a character playing 5d chess, lays out a trap, and tricks a transdimensional being so that they can achieve enlightenment. I was played like a goddamn fiddle.
Same, I'm both shocked and impressed. This entire time I was solving this case I fell for the most cunning trap. Did not see that twist villain outcome happening.
In the game tokiko says this is the mandela effect: when reality is different from what you remember... this is a "happy ending" since kizuna has her legs and kojima is still alive but you cant help but feel very uneasy about it, because you know this is not reality and you are inside a fictional world since tokiko prevented the nirvana initiative from happening (after knowing that it would fail) so in the end she still won by proving her point to you. This happy ending is actually a bittersweet ending, we are trapped inside "tokiko's reality" (she enlightened us) but as tama suggests, we can see that as an ultimate happy ending. It all depends on which philosophy we are embracing: do we want to live in a fake world but where everything is possible like Chikara, or do we want to leave the fake world in order to reach reality like Tokiko?
My take on this ending is that Tokiko didn't really "win" in the end. Yes, her plan was a success. However, as a believer in Simulation Theory she most likely thought that reaching Moksha would mean she would "wake up" from the simulation into reality. However, she is a fictional character in a video game. There is no "real body" for her to wake up into. This isn't like the Matrix: the fictional world the characters inhabit is the only one they CAN exist in. So in essence, all she accomplished was completely erasing her own existence. I just wish we got to explain this to her as Frayers just before she faded, ideally with a look of shock on her face You can never be a part of our reality Tokiko. You are fictional. We are not (well, as far as we know at least...)
But she can become. If our world can influence theirs, hers might be able to influence ours. My fanfic sagas are about me creating an entire multiverse organized like a human body, in order to give birth to a functioning human being, so she can truly be part of our world. Yes, I am aware I am writing works of fiction, but reality is all about dreams, is it not ?
This ending is great because it generates more questions than answers. You don't know who or what created the simulation. You don't know if there's a purpose to it, and - even if so - if your mind can understand it. You don't know how old the simulation is or whether time exists within it. You don't know how many beings may have transcended the simulation. You don't even know how "real" the simulation or the reality behind it is.
Well the first game had 999 similarities, It introduced the themes while Spoon feeding the far out stuff, this one reminded me of VLR, so ill assume the last will be somewhat like ZTD?
This ending finally made me understand 100% the mindset behind a lesser evil for a greater good. At first, this transformation was scary. But after the adrenaline was gone and I kept my head on the objective...it was beautiful. I won't deny it felt a little wrong all of that happiness. Because I felt so lonely. But then Tama, Aiba, Mizuki and Bibi acknowledged the memories's authenticy...it made me feel better. Though Tokito's video makes me wonder. Was she asking which timeline it was true ? Or was she asking if the player is the character or the other way around ? Personally, Tokito was the character I related to most. That's why although I wished she was less selfish...I hope she finds what she was searching for. Although, maybe I should have denied her salvation. It should not be done so selfishly and so ruthlessly. At least I want to believe it shouldn't.
In story wise I wonder what the outside world looks like in this game. I read something online of another secret, but too a website. They told about some people and one other character. Hinting about the other worlds and timelines thing. The game said its the real world and tokiko is delusional. But what if in the next game she's right? Like how in AI 1 iris was right about niex
I really hope that we do actually meet her again like she said, in the third game and not that she meant she would meet us again on the big screen, I'm so invested in her character
Me in the first few minutes: OK, THANKS, jerk! Who needs sleep, ever!? PERIOD!? Me in the last few seconds: Annnnnnnd Tokiko achieved best twist character status, ever period.
I finally have the game and I'm ready to play it ! You know what I'm most excited for once I finish playing the game ? Unlocking all routes. You see, back at the first game, after unlocking every route, I restarted the game and played bits of every route in a specific order in order to tailor my own story. It required a lot of my imagination and memory. But it was worth it then. It's going to be worth it now.
That... You are going to have (or have had) a really interesting experience with this game. That specific way of playing it actually plays into one of the "twists" (literally and figuratively)
@@manafy2522 in my fan made story: -Genny died; -Ryuki, Mizuki and Bibi remain in doubt regarding reality, and their respective partners, including Date, don't know how to console them; -Tokiko got what she wanted (Moksha); -I got what I wanted (make the characters crave for freedom out of the simulation and its rules because of the amount of psychological and emotional suffering they got).
I don't know how to explain this, but for this duology, I'm just REALLY into the bad routes. They're SO entertaining for me. These dances, while captivating...they don't reflect me or how I see the stories.
What really spoiled this ending was the fact you knew it was coming since beginning, it would be more interesting if you did a second playthrough and she out of nowhere asked for NIL number. Also am I only one who thinks that execution of this frayer thing was much more sloppy than in Ever17?
@@jasonl.7170 No, by asking you if you are a frayer and then LETING YOU WRITE IN RANDOM ASS NUMBER. The moment they did that you knew at some point you will get the number and story will diverge from that. Sure you dont know what exactly the story will be, but you can pretty much guess it will be some 4th wall break.
At the end of the game you will get the nil number from the hologram of Tokiko, complete the game and save. Load the game and go back to first chapter and talk to Tokiko and use the nil number.
Eh... To me, I don't really get the whole "interesting" part of the philosophy bit. I get it's like the supposed Butterfly Dream from Zhuang... Ze..? Wazzat their name? Eh... The way I see Tokiko, she's just a depressed cult leader with a Savior Complex that did some messed up shit just for the right to say 'I knew it'. Even if she is right about it all, it doesn't change much. What're we gonna do if we get out of this 'simulation'? Kill our captors? Survive in a world that may or may not be fake, just like ours? And even then- why? I'm not saying that we SHOULD stay here if it's a comfy illusion, but without knowledge of the other layers of the supposed matryoshka doll of reality, then it's not exactly convincing. Especially when the person preaching it let their own 'son' murder 3 people- regardless of innocence or crime. It just seems like she wants to be a messiah when we might not even need one (well- barring religion. I guess liberator is a better term?) Especially not her.
I interpret Tokiko as entirely right, except for the idea that she has a place to escape to. She's right, she's fictional in a simulated world. The simulated fictional world is called AI: The Somnium Files: nirvanA Initiative, and we know that it's fake and simulated because it's a programmed video game we can buy and play on our system of choice. However, she has absolutely nowhere to escape to. All she can do is peer out at us and live a new life aware of the limitations of her existence. She's simulated too, just like her reality, and there is no body in a "real world" that's controlling her. We, the Frayers, are the only reality beyond her. What's interesting about the philosophy is that she's entirely correct in the context of the game, but with a limited viewspace, her initial philosophy is flawed. She's risen above, but has no real means of escape beyond exploring the code above the plot and scenery of the main game. It's almost tragic for her, and it's interesting to see a game outright acknowledge itself as a game in a way that ends up _heightening_ immersion.
I think you're kind of missing the point of what "Moksha" is, and what its goal was in the plot. It's a liberation from desire and samsara (cycle of life). Her goal wasn't really "getting out" of the simulation, it was *freeing herself* from it. I think it's also worth saying that while she platitudes about saving humanity through Moksha, in the end, her ultimate goal was selfish. She wanted to free herself, and her plan was designed to free herself alone. In a way, though, she does save the rest of the cast through achieving Moksha herself. By creating the seam, she gave the Frayer the choice to create a brighter future for the characters, one that they never could've achieved in the main story. That said, that's not to say the game is necessarily endorsing her and saying she was right to do what she's done. While she gave little thought to the occurrences of other timelines, we know that, simulation or not, the pain and joy the characters feel is all equally real. If it wasn't for that pain, she would've never desired Moksha in the first place. In the end, AiNi leaves the end of its story in the hands of the Frayer-or more accurately, the player, and lets them come to their own conclusion on the events of the game, something further supported by the "answer" you unlock on the Hidden Bats website. "Now, it is your turn. [...] You can change the workings of the world itself. You are a Frayer. You can tear at the seams of this world..."
Watching "Kagegurui" has made me try crossovers of this game's characters and the show's songs on shows and movies I liked (especially "Ben 10", and at least half of the scenes are kinda sexualized for some reason). No, I don't know why. For example, Amame and Genny are now part of Zombozo's gang. She has the power to mimic the most seductive voices and to add chorus effect to them, which she uses to sing beautiful songs, which mixed with the guy who spews substances from his mouth, can send her listeners into sort of acid trips based on her songs. She uses this power to have Gwen believe she merges herself with the hair gal (who's 13 years old in this scenario) in order to create a female being with the form of a goddess that steals the audience's life force. Oh ! And the Ai-Balls are now artificial hybrids created from the DNA of a member of Ghostfreak's species with human DNA.
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tokiko didn't free herself properly because we as the Frayer can then go google models rips of this game, then force Tokiko to dance to meme music
The thing that’s so amazing about this ending is that every number is unique to your save, meaning there is no way to cheese this ending.
meaning that if someone truly did enter the nil number before finishing the game, then we've truly found the Frayer. Try as we might to imitate the act of fraying through video games, perhaps this is a way to find one who can truly defy time, one who can assist us in reaching true freedom.
I dont see how this is amazing in any way
@@Nominal_GDP The game sets up you, the Player as a "Frayer," as a godlike being who leads mortals to freedom. By giving you an answer to the nil number, it sets up a way for you to have a small power fantasy for a 'better' ending.
But that just lets the Player pretend that they're special, that we are the 'chosen ones' who have 'achieved enlightenment'.
Because if there really is a Frayer out there, in our world, they don't have to play the game.
They'll already know, before the game explicitly tells you that nil number.
actually, it’s not based on your save, but your “copy” of the game. you can start a new game from scratch and input the code the first time you come across this section, without having gotten to the end yet. and of course that doesn’t make sense, how can the frayer know something that hasn’t been shown yet, as well as all the details of the case? but really, that’s just one of the seams of this world.
@@Nominal_GDP I guess I feel the same but the reason is, Uchikoshi has already done this like in almost every game he has touched so seeing it again for like 7th time is just sorta like. "Ah, this again" I suppose this is probably only the 3rd time that he actually breaks the 4th wall though and says that the player is the one that can control destiny and whatnot.
Tokiko pulling the most elaborate noclip in all of gaming
She REALLY wanted to find the backrooms.
Thought I'd mention this, but at a certain point in Tokiko's somnium, she can be seen t-posing in the background. Guess she was right all along.
SHE WHAT
this ending is far more interesting considering the fact that the wadjet system has officially recorded this as a definitive possibility
Well you just made me remember, Parallel worlds were already discussed in the first game. Naix is mentioned too. So Iris was right all along. She talks a lot of bullshit, maybe everything is right lol
@@mrkores1848 I mean, all she was right about was the fact that Naix does exist, aha
@@Mugsi She was right about alternate dimensions too
@@Mugsi
The rabbit hole for this ending goes deeper if you complete the Twitter ARG using the new final dummy entry unlocked in the Appendix by completing this route. Inputing its entry number into the website the ARG leads to results in a text exposition that explains Iris was part of a project involving exploring and contacting external and parallel worlds using Frayer interactions and seams in simulated reality. She's forgotten about all of this since then, for one reason or another. Iris Sagan, subconsciously, knows more about the true nature of reality than most characters in the series.
@@mythosinfinite6736 so potential sequel
So Tokiko only reveals the nil number after the nirvana initiative fails, she knows the person in control of the simulation can go back through the flowchart somehow.
In the hope of catching that persons attention, she leaves a hint with the frayer question, along with "asking the person within." If they know the nil number then she knows the initiative failed.
She uses the nil number as a backup plan and to break the world and reach moksha, she's proven right and gets to go free in exchange for the initiative never happening and preventing the suffering many people went through... It's kinda like a bribe or plea bargain. Atleast she's polite enough to stay behind and explain some of it.
Not exactly
The Nil number plan is not a backup plan: it’s her one and only plan that she ultimately succeeds in making into a reality. Everything that’s happened - it all happened so the Frayer(play on the pronunciation of the word player in japanese) would hear the hologram say the nil number so then they could tell it to her and create a seam in the world.
That can easily be proved when replaying the last battle at the stadium. To be more specific the scene after two Mizukis stop the tc-perge rocket: Tearer’s video gets cut off and Tokiko appears saying that the plan was successful. She never intended for the Nirvana Initiative to succeed - it had to have failed for her own plan to work. So when she was saying that she actually was correct - the plan never failed because later she was able to give the frayer nil number that they will use later(or earlier, depends on how you look at it)
@@trivia_dex Oh, I always thought it was a way for Tokiko to say "screw everyone else I'm abandoning ship" so that she could escape alone just incase the initiative failed.
It did not take much effort to get my attention. I was so curious about the secret ending that I skiped the final dance.
Man this ending left me with a really bad sensation of uncanny, it doesnt feels right
I like how the long run toward her reflects her somnium where you have to do a long swim to the nonuple-X.
a butterfly dream. What a powerful last line. This game is so confident in its philosophy and it's so good.
As a philosophy major, this game made me genuinely want to reread all my texts.
Wait, even Hegel and Aristotle!? Come on, surely you can...uh...skip SOME of those.
....70% of Locke's work too, while we're at it.
I love too that knowing the future gives you the best possible outcome with no deaths or jail for any of the characters, but because it just happened easily and because you didnt "earn" that ending you still feel unfulfilled. It's not "correct" and doesnt bring you happiness like Tokiko says despite being the the best possible timeline
Yeah despite being the "best" ending now Ryuki knows his existence technically isn't real and that everyone he knows is just part of a computer program
What blew my mind about this ending is how absolutely helpless I felt.
In a game series full of things where you learn one thing in a branch, and go back to a different branch to fill in the blank information, it seemed like the natural thing to do here.
I was a pretty strong opposer to Tokiko’s philosophy, not a complete hater, but I didn’t agree. I wanted to prove her wrong.
So it felt like I fell into a trap with this ending. Perform the same routine, learn information from a different timeline and apply it somewhere else. No other character would question the fact that your main character somehow knew this despite the fact that they definitely shouldn’t.
Finally, a character who questions you. For 6 years, she spends her time setting a trap for you. You don’t realize it, but you have just proved her right.
I felt like I was a cat chasing a mouse, and when I finally catch it my owner picks me up and reprimands me for bringing a stinky dead rodent into their home. What was I expecting? I tore at the seams of the cloth and a hole appeared. It was honestly incredible to experience.
its what I realised not long after entering in the number, the biggest moment is that...Tokiko, Chikara, Uru, character YOU'VE been told to hate, and to go against, have been right this whole time...but as to weather this proves Tokikos theory correct fully, or weather its a link to ZE, is another mystery...Tokiko dissapearing, Ryuki remembering the events of a future timeline...all things that happen in ZE...so...I wonder
the scariest thing about this ending is that tokiko was right all along. she DID need to make uru kill all those people and attempt to end humanity as a whole in this world in order to save it. her meddling and the half body serial killings were actually the things to save so many lives.
Hands down one of the coolest things in a game I’ve witness, the unique nil number is even better cause you can’t cheat to get it. I wish there were more to delve in that timeline but hopefully when they do the third game.
not every day you have a character playing 5d chess, lays out a trap, and tricks a transdimensional being so that they can achieve enlightenment.
I was played like a goddamn fiddle.
Same, I'm both shocked and impressed. This entire time I was solving this case I fell for the most cunning trap. Did not see that twist villain outcome happening.
This is my favorite comment of all time!
In the game tokiko says this is the mandela effect: when reality is different from what you remember... this is a "happy ending" since kizuna has her legs and kojima is still alive but you cant help but feel very uneasy about it, because you know this is not reality and you are inside a fictional world since tokiko prevented the nirvana initiative from happening (after knowing that it would fail) so in the end she still won by proving her point to you.
This happy ending is actually a bittersweet ending, we are trapped inside "tokiko's reality" (she enlightened us) but as tama suggests, we can see that as an ultimate happy ending. It all depends on which philosophy we are embracing: do we want to live in a fake world but where everything is possible like Chikara, or do we want to leave the fake world in order to reach reality like Tokiko?
My take on this ending is that Tokiko didn't really "win" in the end. Yes, her plan was a success. However, as a believer in Simulation Theory she most likely thought that reaching Moksha would mean she would "wake up" from the simulation into reality.
However, she is a fictional character in a video game. There is no "real body" for her to wake up into. This isn't like the Matrix: the fictional world the characters inhabit is the only one they CAN exist in.
So in essence, all she accomplished was completely erasing her own existence. I just wish we got to explain this to her as Frayers just before she faded, ideally with a look of shock on her face
You can never be a part of our reality Tokiko. You are fictional. We are not (well, as far as we know at least...)
I feel like you played danganronpa v3
But she can become. If our world can influence theirs, hers might be able to influence ours. My fanfic sagas are about me creating an entire multiverse organized like a human body, in order to give birth to a functioning human being, so she can truly be part of our world.
Yes, I am aware I am writing works of fiction, but reality is all about dreams, is it not ?
@@JabamiLain Are you willing to link to some of these fanfics, incidentally?
@@CrowTR0bot I would, if Tube let me. What if I tell you the name to search them instead ?
@@JabamiLain sure, don't forget to say what website it's on either.
Tokiko's Japanese text around 2:19 actually somewhat resembles a sentence this time instead of being gibberish lol
This ending is great because it generates more questions than answers.
You don't know who or what created the simulation.
You don't know if there's a purpose to it, and - even if so - if your mind can understand it.
You don't know how old the simulation is or whether time exists within it.
You don't know how many beings may have transcended the simulation.
You don't even know how "real" the simulation or the reality behind it is.
Wonder which timeline they will go with if they do happen to make a third game of this series.
Pretty sure they will go with the one that the true ending is set in.
It’d be fun if the third game went with this timeline lol 😆
I hope they pull a steins gate zero and make a game of Ryuki with the knowledge of the truth in this timeline
Well the first game had 999 similarities,
It introduced the themes while Spoon feeding the far out stuff, this one reminded me of VLR, so ill assume the last will be somewhat like ZTD?
I kinda want it to be this ending because after playing the first game, I want Mizuki to have those 6 years with Date T-T
BECOME AS GODS
WE SHALL ALL PSYNC TOGETHER AND BECOME AS GODS
they do be tposing
This ending finally made me understand 100% the mindset behind a lesser evil for a greater good. At first, this transformation was scary. But after the adrenaline was gone and I kept my head on the objective...it was beautiful.
I won't deny it felt a little wrong all of that happiness. Because I felt so lonely. But then Tama, Aiba, Mizuki and Bibi acknowledged the memories's authenticy...it made me feel better.
Though Tokito's video makes me wonder. Was she asking which timeline it was true ? Or was she asking if the player is the character or the other way around ?
Personally, Tokito was the character I related to most. That's why although I wished she was less selfish...I hope she finds what she was searching for. Although, maybe I should have denied her salvation. It should not be done so selfishly and so ruthlessly. At least I want to believe it shouldn't.
In story wise I wonder what the outside world looks like in this game. I read something online of another secret, but too a website. They told about some people and one other character. Hinting about the other worlds and timelines thing.
The game said its the real world and tokiko is delusional. But what if in the next game she's right? Like how in AI 1 iris was right about niex
just finished the game, the bgm at the start is creepy.
fun fact, that song is called "796f756b6e6f7765766572797468696e67" which, when decoded, means "youknoweverything"
Omg I completed the game right after release but only now I saw this ending. It's a little creepy but a very cool end.
I really hope that we do actually meet her again like she said, in the third game and not that she meant she would meet us again on the big screen, I'm so invested in her character
Came here because I didn't wanna spend time finding her and I'm scared
Tokiko went too the backrooms
Me in the first few minutes: OK, THANKS, jerk! Who needs sleep, ever!? PERIOD!?
Me in the last few seconds: Annnnnnnd Tokiko achieved best twist character status, ever period.
I finally have the game and I'm ready to play it !
You know what I'm most excited for once I finish playing the game ? Unlocking all routes. You see, back at the first game, after unlocking every route, I restarted the game and played bits of every route in a specific order in order to tailor my own story. It required a lot of my imagination and memory. But it was worth it then. It's going to be worth it now.
why did you watch this first
@@Freedster I didn't. I paused the video before I could get spoiled.
That... You are going to have (or have had) a really interesting experience with this game.
That specific way of playing it actually plays into one of the "twists" (literally and figuratively)
How did it go?
@@manafy2522 in my fan made story:
-Genny died;
-Ryuki, Mizuki and Bibi remain in doubt regarding reality, and their respective partners, including Date, don't know how to console them;
-Tokiko got what she wanted (Moksha);
-I got what I wanted (make the characters crave for freedom out of the simulation and its rules because of the amount of psychological and emotional suffering they got).
So tearing the seam is a.k.a is cheating the game. I figured as much but I had to be sure.
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The music in this ending is so unnerving and creepy
I don't know how to explain this, but for this duology, I'm just REALLY into the bad routes. They're SO entertaining for me. These dances, while captivating...they don't reflect me or how I see the stories.
Tama I'm scared!!!
What really spoiled this ending was the fact you knew it was coming since beginning, it would be more interesting if you did a second playthrough and she out of nowhere asked for NIL number. Also am I only one who thinks that execution of this frayer thing was much more sloppy than in Ever17?
This whole game is a much sloppier version of Ever17 with the identical looking protagonists and eternal youth character
How would you know about this ending since the beginning? Just by her asking you the first time are you a frayer? You only get the number at the end.
@@jasonl.7170 No, by asking you if you are a frayer and then LETING YOU WRITE IN RANDOM ASS NUMBER. The moment they did that you knew at some point you will get the number and story will diverge from that. Sure you dont know what exactly the story will be, but you can pretty much guess it will be some 4th wall break.
@@jaroslavbima765 why did you say yes to her question in the first place? That's asking to be spoiled and be on the lookout for the number.
The point of the game is to investigate everything, and try many option. Otherwise it will be hard to solve anything.
so true tbh
how did you find it?
At the end of the game you will get the nil number from the hologram of Tokiko, complete the game and save. Load the game and go back to first chapter and talk to Tokiko and use the nil number.
Eh... To me, I don't really get the whole "interesting" part of the philosophy bit. I get it's like the supposed Butterfly Dream from Zhuang... Ze..? Wazzat their name? Eh... The way I see Tokiko, she's just a depressed cult leader with a Savior Complex that did some messed up shit just for the right to say 'I knew it'. Even if she is right about it all, it doesn't change much. What're we gonna do if we get out of this 'simulation'? Kill our captors? Survive in a world that may or may not be fake, just like ours? And even then- why? I'm not saying that we SHOULD stay here if it's a comfy illusion, but without knowledge of the other layers of the supposed matryoshka doll of reality, then it's not exactly convincing. Especially when the person preaching it let their own 'son' murder 3 people- regardless of innocence or crime. It just seems like she wants to be a messiah when we might not even need one (well- barring religion. I guess liberator is a better term?) Especially not her.
It’s implied that everyone has a “real” body somewhere that they awaken into when they get out of the simulation
@@imcalledcool hmm.. what if AI the somnium files is actually a prelude to the next Zero escape
I interpret Tokiko as entirely right, except for the idea that she has a place to escape to. She's right, she's fictional in a simulated world. The simulated fictional world is called AI: The Somnium Files: nirvanA Initiative, and we know that it's fake and simulated because it's a programmed video game we can buy and play on our system of choice.
However, she has absolutely nowhere to escape to. All she can do is peer out at us and live a new life aware of the limitations of her existence. She's simulated too, just like her reality, and there is no body in a "real world" that's controlling her. We, the Frayers, are the only reality beyond her.
What's interesting about the philosophy is that she's entirely correct in the context of the game, but with a limited viewspace, her initial philosophy is flawed. She's risen above, but has no real means of escape beyond exploring the code above the plot and scenery of the main game. It's almost tragic for her, and it's interesting to see a game outright acknowledge itself as a game in a way that ends up _heightening_ immersion.
I think you're kind of missing the point of what "Moksha" is, and what its goal was in the plot. It's a liberation from desire and samsara (cycle of life). Her goal wasn't really "getting out" of the simulation, it was *freeing herself* from it. I think it's also worth saying that while she platitudes about saving humanity through Moksha, in the end, her ultimate goal was selfish. She wanted to free herself, and her plan was designed to free herself alone.
In a way, though, she does save the rest of the cast through achieving Moksha herself. By creating the seam, she gave the Frayer the choice to create a brighter future for the characters, one that they never could've achieved in the main story. That said, that's not to say the game is necessarily endorsing her and saying she was right to do what she's done. While she gave little thought to the occurrences of other timelines, we know that, simulation or not, the pain and joy the characters feel is all equally real. If it wasn't for that pain, she would've never desired Moksha in the first place.
In the end, AiNi leaves the end of its story in the hands of the Frayer-or more accurately, the player, and lets them come to their own conclusion on the events of the game, something further supported by the "answer" you unlock on the Hidden Bats website.
"Now, it is your turn. [...] You can change the workings of the world itself. You are a Frayer. You can tear at the seams of this world..."
@@fey2450 ...Huh. Well when you put it like that, yeah. It makes sense. I feel like you hit the nail on the head.
Watching "Kagegurui" has made me try crossovers of this game's characters and the show's songs on shows and movies I liked (especially "Ben 10", and at least half of the scenes are kinda sexualized for some reason). No, I don't know why.
For example, Amame and Genny are now part of Zombozo's gang. She has the power to mimic the most seductive voices and to add chorus effect to them, which she uses to sing beautiful songs, which mixed with the guy who spews substances from his mouth, can send her listeners into sort of acid trips based on her songs.
She uses this power to have Gwen believe she merges herself with the hair gal (who's 13 years old in this scenario) in order to create a female being with the form of a goddess that steals the audience's life force.
Oh ! And the Ai-Balls are now artificial hybrids created from the DNA of a member of Ghostfreak's species with human DNA.
What a complete mess
Oh look, the only good part of the entire game
I love the fact that players either love this game with a cult-like passion or hate it with a burning rage.