For the past 6 years I have been a braindead midlaner Yasuo OTP and is been hardstuck platinum ever since, but now I'm learning on your videos on what high elo players think and I realize a lot of my mistakes when laning, a lot of random deaths and etc.. I just wanna say thank you for making videos like this it really helps me a lot on improving, so glad yt recommended one of your videos😅 Love your content, Keep it up!
@@ShokLeague what about a 15-20 minute video where we see the only first couple of waves on Syndra vs whoever back to back, with commentary about what you're doing and why?
Did that lux buy their account? I cringe every time i see lux with ignite (usually supports) but dark harvest ignite WITH a tear start is too much of a red flag
I would love to watch some more taliyah games (Doesnt have to be in this playlist). Would be super interesting to see how you use mid lane fundamentals with a high roam/skirmish/pick potential champ, also just love watching my otp be played haha!
Bro your movement is insane to me, I just came back from league and I have a better understanding about the game just by watching your gameplay. Keep it up!
Hi. I started watching a lot of your vids lately, hoping it gets me looking at the game different after years. One related question is, you repeat in this video that you DONT want to build Magic Pen items when you expect the enemy to build MR, but isn't that the point of Pen? I thought it's especially important to get when you have double AP BECAUSE they will have MR.. What am i missing here?
The TLDR is the flat magic pen is good against targets with low MR, but not very useful against targets against high MR. % magic pen on the other hand (void/cryptbloom) is good against targets with high MR but not very useful against targets with low MR. If someone has 40 MR and you have sorc shoes, you cut their MR almost in half (40-18) but if someone has 200 MR, taking 18 magic resist away from this is almost negligible.
I’m so glad I stumbled onto this channel! It’s so nice watching a LOL player that just isn’t posting them smurfing on noobs. The commentating and humor is great. Keep it up brother! I’ve binged like 15 videos in the last 3 days lol
I always found that very weird seeing sorcs boots with Liandry's. To me sorcs must be purchased with luden and potentially follow up with even more flat pen. I always go mercs or lucidity when I go liandry. Also don't understand the people buying Liandry + Shadowflame, any thoughts on this @Shok ?
Yeah I agree, liandry + shadowflame is pretty troll. Only reason I went sorcs was for the stronger spike early on but ye 99% of games you want liandry + lucidity or luden + sorc
Most of your e’s on jax pushed him into terrain as he jumped on you, so he didn’t get moved into the orb you precast. Your map awareness is something I aspire to, don’t beat yourself up. Thanks for the vods.
Love your videos man. I hope you keep doing this kind of content even after you get rank 1. Theses videos have helped me a lot on how to move on the map and respecte support-jungle ganks. Between that and the full guides on champs have helped me a lot so thank you!
Hey like your videos a lot, I think sometimes you can talk less, then slow down what you are saying sometimes and take longer to explain more complicated ideas, thanks again!
This video made me realize that soon shoks gonna hit rank one and this series will end. Quick, someone wintrade this guy hard! I dont want this to end.
Shok, really important question. I've been using these 3 champs to climb, yone, ahri, and talon. But I've been wondering if ahri is a good pick to carry games or if I should look into something else.
that syndra ult concept is so good i didnt know that but i claim myself as an experienced and good player thx shok :) you are awesome as always have a nice day and keep it up
I dont really understand as to why building sorcs isn't good when you have more then 1 AP. Cause as you said they will be getting MR but sorcs then gives you pen against it. So why exactly isnt it good?
Because the value of flat magic pen decreases with increasing MR, e.g. 40 MR -> 20 MR is a very large difference, but 180 MR -> 160 MR is effectively nothing. In comparison, going like CDR boots gives you CDR which will hold the same value regardless of the opponent having 20 MR to 180 MR.
hahaha kind of a sad game for me, because i was looking to watch a hard lane phase, but as you said, you were smurfing that guy, so it was an easy game!
Hey Shok, really good video once again! Could you consider uploading some games that you lose? Just so the viewers could like, get a better view on how to play the game from behind/losing sidelanes, even though the game will be lost. Keep on guiding! Amazing content!
question from a noob (me): why dont buy sorc shoes when two AP (and expecting them to buy MR)? I thought magic pen is the counter to MR (therefore buy void staff)? Or do 18mp have not enough impact on the amount of MR the enemy would build? Thx in advance and thx for ur educational content
Sorc shoes give flat pen. It gets worse The more MR The enemy buys. When enemy team comp has a lot of MR or will likely buy MR later on its better to buy cdr boots and Go liandries rabadon and voidstaff since void has 40% magic pen instead of a flat ammount 😊
tldr is that at higher MR values flat pen doesn't do much. If your opponent have low MR (say 40-50) then reducing this number by 18 is pretty significant, but if your opponents buy MR and then have like 150, reducing this number by 18 is pretty useless. Void staff is better vs high MR targets because its % magic pen rather than flat magic pen
Have a question about 4:38. So Lux is getting punished for being down gold, and also for hard pushing a cannon wave that didn't crash into tower - this is why you're able to zone her off the wave for a few waves. In this situation, you can either continue to punish her mid by holding the wave and zoning her off, or you can pressure by hard shoving which allows you to get vision river. Do you decide to hard shove and get vision because the expected value of that vision, and the future opportunities it creates when you next get pressure, is now higher than further punishing lux since you're already way ahead? Any insight into your decision making here would be appreciated, thanks!
I think I wouldn't be able to play as aggressive as I like and properly punish her if I don't have vision, so I decided to get vision first. Maybee there's an argument that Lux + graves isn't that strong a combo and I have flash so I could risk it, but it seems kinda unnecessary
Thanks for the reply! That makes sense, I'm more asking why choose to get vision that wave rather than a wave or two earlier. Why choose to hold any waves instead of shoving and warding immediately? Is there a timer you're thinking about? I originally hypothesized that you were trying to punish lux by holding waves, and then, once you felt like you had a big enough advantage, you shoved to get vision. Then, this vision allows you to safely pressure her, since you built up such an advantage and you're really strong so graves can't help. Definitely not questioning your decision-making, more just trying to internalize it so I can apply it myself. @@ShokLeague
For the past 6 years I have been a braindead midlaner Yasuo OTP and is been hardstuck platinum ever since, but now I'm learning on your videos on what high elo players think and I realize a lot of my mistakes when laning, a lot of random deaths and etc.. I just wanna say thank you for making videos like this it really helps me a lot on improving, so glad yt recommended one of your videos😅 Love your content, Keep it up!
So glad I could help you with your illness!
hi Shok, really like your videos, it would be nice to do one explaining core concepts of the most played matchups in mid.
I have thought about doing matchup specific videos, might be better as a short
I don't like educational shorts, it feels like vital content is often cut to keep it below the time cut for a short.
@@ShokLeague what about a 15-20 minute video where we see the only first couple of waves on Syndra vs whoever back to back, with commentary about what you're doing and why?
would be great for hard matchups like fizz, sylas, yone, lb, xerath. Especially early game & item/ rune setup @@ShokLeague
totally honest i thought this was going to be a video of enemy team remaking and thats it. lol
Did that lux buy their account? I cringe every time i see lux with ignite (usually supports) but dark harvest ignite WITH a tear start is too much of a red flag
Probably just off roled, I didn't check
I would love to watch some more taliyah games (Doesnt have to be in this playlist). Would be super interesting to see how you use mid lane fundamentals with a high roam/skirmish/pick potential champ, also just love watching my otp be played haha!
Bro your movement is insane to me, I just came back from league and I have a better understanding about the game just by watching your gameplay. Keep it up!
Thanks for this video! Would also love to see some akali content. Happy holidays :)
naafiri game now that she's been buffed Pls Thanks Shok Ur The Best :3 !
Hi. I started watching a lot of your vids lately, hoping it gets me looking at the game different after years. One related question is, you repeat in this video that you DONT want to build Magic Pen items when you expect the enemy to build MR, but isn't that the point of Pen? I thought it's especially important to get when you have double AP BECAUSE they will have MR.. What am i missing here?
The TLDR is the flat magic pen is good against targets with low MR, but not very useful against targets against high MR. % magic pen on the other hand (void/cryptbloom) is good against targets with high MR but not very useful against targets with low MR. If someone has 40 MR and you have sorc shoes, you cut their MR almost in half (40-18) but if someone has 200 MR, taking 18 magic resist away from this is almost negligible.
I’m so glad I stumbled onto this channel! It’s so nice watching a LOL player that just isn’t posting them smurfing on noobs. The commentating and humor is great. Keep it up brother! I’ve binged like 15 videos in the last 3 days lol
Love ur vids shok, they really help!! Thank you for all the great info!
I always found that very weird seeing sorcs boots with Liandry's. To me sorcs must be purchased with luden and potentially follow up with even more flat pen. I always go mercs or lucidity when I go liandry. Also don't understand the people buying Liandry + Shadowflame, any thoughts on this @Shok ?
Yeah I agree, liandry + shadowflame is pretty troll. Only reason I went sorcs was for the stronger spike early on but ye 99% of games you want liandry + lucidity or luden + sorc
Most of your e’s on jax pushed him into terrain as he jumped on you, so he didn’t get moved into the orb you precast. Your map awareness is something I aspire to, don’t beat yourself up. Thanks for the vods.
Appreciate it :D
Love your videos man. I hope you keep doing this kind of content even after you get rank 1. Theses videos have helped me a lot on how to move on the map and respecte support-jungle ganks. Between that and the full guides on champs have helped me a lot so thank you!
Hey like your videos a lot, I think sometimes you can talk less, then slow down what you are saying sometimes and take longer to explain more complicated ideas, thanks again!
Good feedback
this channel is incredible, keep up the gj!
This video made me realize that soon shoks gonna hit rank one and this series will end. Quick, someone wintrade this guy hard! I dont want this to end.
hahah dw I have lost LP lately
Shok, really important question.
I've been using these 3 champs to climb, yone, ahri, and talon.
But I've been wondering if ahri is a good pick to carry games or if I should look into something else.
Ahri is good yeah, you can carry most games by changing your itemization (ludens/liandry/everfrost)
@@ShokLeague thank you very much, I lwanna start playing more ahri and just wasn't sure if she had carry potential, thanks for clarifying!
that syndra ult concept is so good i didnt know that but i claim myself as an experienced and good player thx shok :) you are awesome as always have a nice day and keep it up
You went cosmic second, do you ever consider horizon focus on any champions?
I think horizon kinda sucks, it can be built on Xerath/Hwei/Lux/Zoe etc but I honestly think other items are just better
You went cosmic second, do you ever consider horizon focus on any champions?
You can go horizon second on some champs but imo it's kinda an underpowered item
I really enjoy these types of videos. It's like watching Bwipo but for midlane.
I dont really understand as to why building sorcs isn't good when you have more then 1 AP. Cause as you said they will be getting MR but sorcs then gives you pen against it. So why exactly isnt it good?
Because the value of flat magic pen decreases with increasing MR, e.g. 40 MR -> 20 MR is a very large difference, but 180 MR -> 160 MR is effectively nothing. In comparison, going like CDR boots gives you CDR which will hold the same value regardless of the opponent having 20 MR to 180 MR.
@@ziqiwei8152 Ohh that makes a lot of sense i forgot that it was Flat Magic Pen. Thank you very much
The other comment already responded but it is kinda weird how unintuitive this is
hahaha kind of a sad game for me, because i was looking to watch a hard lane phase, but as you said, you were smurfing that guy, so it was an easy game!
top was pushed, so jax went bot via hextech gate
hii loved the vid, btw was this recorded before the syndra nerf?
Yeah it was, I think she's still probably A tier after nerf
Hey Shok, really good video once again! Could you consider uploading some games that you lose? Just so the viewers could like, get a better view on how to play the game from behind/losing sidelanes, even though the game will be lost. Keep on guiding! Amazing content!
he does btw
There's a few losses in the playlist
looking like a cutie patootie
Thanks g
You're so cuteee omggg
Haha thank you
Love this channel, gameplay and commentary really showcases the mindset of a high elo challenger player keep it up ❤
Do you think the syndra nerf makes her unplayable or is it still possible to play her?
Answered in his 13.24 vid under the timestamp 13.24b
@@leonardhinkelmann5629 oh he did already upholder the patch video i see thx!
Still A tier I think
@18:18, why did Jax not get CC'd?
He is protected by he up high
question from a noob (me): why dont buy sorc shoes when two AP (and expecting them to buy MR)? I thought magic pen is the counter to MR (therefore buy void staff)? Or do 18mp have not enough impact on the amount of MR the enemy would build? Thx in advance and thx for ur educational content
Sorc shoes give flat pen. It gets worse The more MR The enemy buys. When enemy team comp has a lot of MR or will likely buy MR later on its better to buy cdr boots and Go liandries rabadon and voidstaff since void has 40% magic pen instead of a flat ammount 😊
tldr is that at higher MR values flat pen doesn't do much. If your opponent have low MR (say 40-50) then reducing this number by 18 is pretty significant, but if your opponents buy MR and then have like 150, reducing this number by 18 is pretty useless. Void staff is better vs high MR targets because its % magic pen rather than flat magic pen
Great game!
Complete map domination within 8 mins this game... damn
wow what an insane game holy shit im only at 8 minutes
this might be your most insane performance I've seen yet. The first 9 minutes were flawless, and single handedly won your team the game
Have a question about 4:38. So Lux is getting punished for being down gold, and also for hard pushing a cannon wave that didn't crash into tower - this is why you're able to zone her off the wave for a few waves. In this situation, you can either continue to punish her mid by holding the wave and zoning her off, or you can pressure by hard shoving which allows you to get vision river. Do you decide to hard shove and get vision because the expected value of that vision, and the future opportunities it creates when you next get pressure, is now higher than further punishing lux since you're already way ahead? Any insight into your decision making here would be appreciated, thanks!
I think I wouldn't be able to play as aggressive as I like and properly punish her if I don't have vision, so I decided to get vision first. Maybee there's an argument that Lux + graves isn't that strong a combo and I have flash so I could risk it, but it seems kinda unnecessary
Thanks for the reply! That makes sense, I'm more asking why choose to get vision that wave rather than a wave or two earlier. Why choose to hold any waves instead of shoving and warding immediately? Is there a timer you're thinking about? I originally hypothesized that you were trying to punish lux by holding waves, and then, once you felt like you had a big enough advantage, you shoved to get vision. Then, this vision allows you to safely pressure her, since you built up such an advantage and you're really strong so graves can't help. Definitely not questioning your decision-making, more just trying to internalize it so I can apply it myself. @@ShokLeague
The timestamp at 7 mins xD
is it just me or is there something wrong with the game audio? sounds kinda high pitched to me
Just you 😛 its 100% normal
Your audio device is probably out of sync. Restart your PC or your device.
Seems fine to me
What is your thought on the Syndra nerf?
Still A tier I think
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