I Taught Myself Perfect Pitch. Here's How.

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  • Опубликовано: 11 ноя 2024

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  • @ryan_lu-y8w
    @ryan_lu-y8w Месяц назад

    Recap:
    1. You can access more meaning in life if like me, you have perfect pitch.
    2. Even though everything we learn goes into our subconscious so we can take on and learn other tasks, I’m here to tell you that that even though I failed psychology, we shouldn’t be able to teach ourselves a subconscious function.
    3. I’m a huge (f’in) nerd, and in no way are my musings about my schizophrenic tendencies or nerdiness meant to signal my obvious giftedness and genius.
    4. Don’t believe me? Use my on camera example as proof bc in no possible way can I prepare before hand since my camera has one take lock on and therefore can only do one take.
    5. Me and bros came up with all of this, but you should also know that the amount of books and biographies I’ve read amounts to about zero so my historical context has not yet been moved to my consciousness let alone my subconscious. Recall that I failed psychology.

    • @RyanOConnorDrums
      @RyanOConnorDrums  Месяц назад

      this video is a) not in any way good and b) getting way more attention than it should for something a high 19 year old made off a manic episode so i’m really glad you left this comment. it’s a super flawed piece of media and while my enthusiasm for education is still present, the version of myself that made this was in zero way prepared for it. i’ve been thinking about making a whole well written video about how this is NOT perfect pitch and rather a guide to access deeper understanding of relative pitch in relation to memory through concepts, and this was the comment that finally made me unlist both of these videos. i still firmly believe this concept is valuable for musicians looking to expand their understanding, but the delivery is so flawed that it completely undermines what’s being taught. future me is not going to incorporate clickbait and influencer culture into something i consider so educationally valuable, specifically for musicians approaching the university level. appreciate the accountability, it does not go unnoticed!

  • @Avybavywavy
    @Avybavywavy Месяц назад

    when you say "you should be able to teach yourself a subconscious function" I wince a bit because we do it all the time as musician for example think of the first time you played a scale vs now.

    • @RyanOConnorDrums
      @RyanOConnorDrums  Месяц назад

      yeah it’s pretty cringe lol imagine if i actually put thought into this and didn’t try to make it some funny unserious bullshit

  • @Mike-rw2nh
    @Mike-rw2nh 2 года назад +10

    As I have stated on your previous upload, I champion anyone who adds intelligent enquiry to the subject of experimenting with perfect pitch. My apologies for the long message, but I hope my penny’s worth may aid anyone wishing to experiment with this phenomenon.
    It is almost universally recognised that there are a great many musicians, who despite not developing perfect pitch, do have a sense of heightened tonal memory for one or two notes, which they use as an anchor for their relative pitch. However, this has been greatly expanded upon by Shaun ‘Thunder’ Wallace. He uses what he refers to as ‘True Pitch’. See the RUclips channel, Saxology for an excellent description of this approach.
    The method of acquiring True Pitch:
    1. Choose an instrument with a fixed pitch for each note over one octave (wind instruments are perfect). C4-C5 suited my purpose.
    2. The technique is to listen for the unique timbre of each note, caused by tiny imperfections inherent with each individual instrument.
    3. Please note, you are listening for the unique imperfections found on notes specific to your own instrument. This appears to act as a familiar shape you can drape over the ‘sonic contour’ of the given musical pitch.
    4. This method does not require you to strain to listen, it simply requires you to listen to the vowel-like timbre imperfections. They are clearest upon the initial onset of executing the note. It is extremely difficult on piano, guitar (minimal timbre imperfections) or the human voice (not a fixed pitch instrument).
    5. I have experimented with a £50 chromatic harmonica in the key of C. As an example, for my own instrument they are as follows: C (Har), C# (Hoor), D (Hoom), D# (Heah), E (Hee), F (Oh), F# (Who), G (Heh), G# (ooh), A (Oar), A# (Hoo), B (Hoor).
    6. You will notice there appears to be some repetition of vowel-like timbres for some notes. This is because vowels in the English language do not clearly define the sound of each timbre I perceive.
    With some experimentation, patience and Ryan’s method of humming the Major 7 triad, or simply running up a chromatic scale, it as become quite useful to me. Do I consider myself to have perfect pitch? No. Do I religiously strive for perfect pitch? Certainly not. Is it handy? Definitely. Is there room for improvement? Absolutely. Is it just a fun, interesting experiment which will do no harm to your relative pitch perception? A big ‘yes’ from me. If you’ve read this far, I salute you, good sir/ good madam. Happy experimenting.

  • @Stan_sprinkle
    @Stan_sprinkle 9 месяцев назад +16

    The question is, did you really learn it, or do you have perfect pitch and you just had to decide to try to realize that you already had it. The general consensus is that it can’t be learned.

    • @olivierkosmala8271
      @olivierkosmala8271 8 месяцев назад +1

      it can be if your neuroplasticity is incredible 😄 people that are in brain altering medicine can sometimes actually learn the notes and code them in the brain

    • @Mishtiman
      @Mishtiman 2 месяца назад

      true. Generally not possible in adults. After the age of 8 not possible. Before, yes.

  • @yazansh8218
    @yazansh8218 5 месяцев назад +15

    i found a way to make a whistle sound with my mouth in a way where it is always the same pitch and key. so now i gotta identify what that note is and from there i'll be able to work on my perfect pitch

    • @pjbpiano
      @pjbpiano 3 месяца назад +2

      That is unfortunately not perfect pitch. That is relative pitch.

    • @yazansh8218
      @yazansh8218 3 месяца назад +1

      @@pjbpiano I know, but memorizing a single note is near impossible

  • @IvanRx76
    @IvanRx76 9 месяцев назад +5

    A thing that is happening to me, is that I divide the chromatic scale into "groups". BC, DbD, etc... it's working 😂

    • @RyanOConnorDrums
      @RyanOConnorDrums  9 месяцев назад +2

      i do this too lol it's like a scale safety net

  • @JaeCole1
    @JaeCole1 2 месяца назад +1

    Its weird for me. I don’t have perfect pitch but I’ve trained myself to easily recognize notes without reference.

    • @gmmxncs
      @gmmxncs 2 месяца назад

      Same

  • @l.chare07
    @l.chare07 Месяц назад

    why do you look like franz liszt

  • @zionnoel
    @zionnoel 2 месяца назад +2

    I say this lightheartedly and without an attitude of genuine criticism (because it made me laugh as someone who very much enjoys the study and understanding of psychology): I think your use of the word "schizophrenic" nicely evidences your failing of two psychology courses. Haha. I believe any person can do any thing, so I'm not saying ya couldn't do it. :) Just that it's a funny anecdote.
    Thank you for the video! I would really like to become therapist and use art and music in my practice, and I was pondering whether I believed I could teach myself perfect pitch, and whether I would want to or not. Generally routines that must happen everyday are found grueling by me, so I don't know that it would become a goal of mine, but I think it's certainly beautiful and cool that humans can do so many things. :) Thanks again, and blessings.

    • @RyanOConnorDrums
      @RyanOConnorDrums  2 месяца назад +1

      It's a great bit - SUPER inaccurate though (I finally passed the class). I would eventually like to do the same, once I live out my career as an artist and musician. There is so much room for artistic practice within cognitive behavioral therapy, and I would love to see more of it implemented worldwide overtime. It has immensely helped me with my own anxiety, depression, cyclothymia, and ADHD, and I fully believe the correct teaching would allow patients to use their struggles with mental health in a way that benefits their own musical journey. And you are totally correct, any person can do anything with the proper education and practice, however they access or create it. Music and psychology are even more beautiful when they coexist in these ways!

  • @EndyChin
    @EndyChin 5 месяцев назад +2

    my fav ukulele and guitar note is C, so I almost here it everywhere

    • @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole
      @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole 5 месяцев назад

      That's how to start! // Remember this. Don't try to "learn" a new note after this. I generally just leads to frustration. Learn a new note in RELATION to the C. It might seem like cheating at first (like using relative pitch), but you will soon realize that notes all live in the context of each other anyway since the harmoinc series (musical sub-vibrations) like underneath any main pitch. // Other thing is just write down you do describe one note in relation to another. Each note DOES have it's own coloring. // My theories on this can be found here at _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_ as well.
      Happy ukulele playing!

  • @harperduffy254
    @harperduffy254 6 месяцев назад +4

    I see the colours thingy too when I play piano, for me i think its like when your dreaming you dont actually see the dream but its in the back of your mind and i think its the same with seeing the colours. And I esspecially dont even notice right off the bat thats I have already sorted colours to certain parts of a piece but then I realise it and its really cool.

    • @RyanOConnorDrums
      @RyanOConnorDrums  6 месяцев назад +1

      can you detail what notes are what colors? synesthesia is so fascinating to me

  • @lestath2345
    @lestath2345 Год назад +6

    I seriously don't understand the method. What exactly do I have to do to get started with it?

  • @johanfreimann9761
    @johanfreimann9761 4 месяца назад +2

    1:06 actually we are taught a lot of things that are now subconcious to us, for an example we read subconciously, like try to look at a sentence without recognizing the words, we couldnt do that from birth, but i get what you mean!

  • @Tech28854
    @Tech28854 5 месяцев назад

    I see shape when I play my trumpet. The shapes are filled with color

  • @rainbowlower4593
    @rainbowlower4593 4 месяца назад

    But what if you just remember exactly how every note sounds? Is that just impossible then?

    • @ThierryPianoSolo
      @ThierryPianoSolo 4 месяца назад

      Perfect pitch is not memory pitch... It's like a new sense. You can memorize a note sound, but it's always short term memory.

  • @starbaby2001
    @starbaby2001 3 месяца назад

    I know I got synaesthesia with letters and stuff, I see something very faint with music but not sure yet if I can develop something with like individual notes, but I am going to try wish me luck

  • @Aaron-no3ne
    @Aaron-no3ne 2 месяца назад +3

    Heard about this before a long time ago. More like memorizing a note then using relative pitch. It's not actually "perfect pitch", but it's still quite the accomplishment. Good work.

  • @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole
    @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole 5 месяцев назад +12

    Mr. Ryan, my story is strange compared to yours. I learned to distinguish each note by comparing the notes and writing down the differences into a journal. The strange thing is that instead of going thru the work of doing all the different exercises for learning perfect pitch, I started writing out an entire Theory of Pitch Psychology, to where i starting seeing that we hear the ascending notes spectrally. Beginning with middle C as red. What I mean is that the textural "colorings" of the chromatic notes have the "color energies" of the rainbow. C is like red. D is orange, E is bright an piercing and flasy: yellow. F is lime Green. F# is a full grass green. etc. And what's crazy is that i can even hear how the notes to the left of F# (green) are the "warm" notes. And to the right of F# the keys are "cool." A-flat (the key of death) being the coldest in feeling. Blue. Sounds like twinkling stars in space. // You and your viewers should totally TOTALLY see my videos on this. It's compelling because i'm seeing that love songs really do get (unconsciously) written in C. Over and over. And songs of death, or estrangement really are in A-flat. // I have even , at this stage, learned to THINK of a color-shape instead of a note-name when i play piano.
    But, anyway thanks for the tips, and I really REALLY need to get off my ass and just DO the perfect pitch exercises!
    Your, _Acoustic Rabbit Hole_

    • @PK-bp5zc
      @PK-bp5zc 5 месяцев назад +3

      This actually is a „thing“. My Orchestra teacher in school always tells us which colour we are supposed to see and they are pretty much the same as you said.
      Sry for the most bad English you“ll ever hear still learning…

    • @RyanOConnorDrums
      @RyanOConnorDrums  5 месяцев назад +5

      I believe this phenomenon is referred to as synesthesia, and I've encountered quite a few people who have different color/pitch relationships. This one you're describing seems to be more common, though I'm sure a wide survey of musicians aware and unaware would yield much firmer results. I've started to theorize there may be 2 or 3 variations of synesthesia that correlate with how intense one's natural pitch recognition ability is, and I think a great way to categorize them would be synesthesia A, B and C (assuming there are 3, there could be more, there could be less!) As I grow and encounter more musicians, I will definitely be keeping this in mind. I personally don't have synesthesia, and am quite envious! Cherish your natural ability to perceive, it is truly a blessing.

    • @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole
      @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole 5 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@RyanOConnorDrums Nice call, but this is something different than synesthesia. Look closely at what i wrote. I said that each note had a different texture to it. Not a color. i only applied the color lables later when I realized it texutres of the chromatic notes matched the symbolic energies of the colors on the rainbow spectrum. A-flat ALWAYS sounds thin, and distant. Removed. C always sounds full and present. Heavy. Warm. When I labled C as red (for warmth/fire) and Ab as blue (cold, removed, alone, lonely), each note just fell into place.
      You can hear this, too. As I was saying in my initial statement, by just comparing the notes and writing down the differences, you will hear the same thing. This is what I call my Theory of Pitch Psychology. Which says noting more than that our hearing is spectral in coloring (texturing), and that not only does this apply to everyone, it explains WHY anyone would even have perfect pitch al all.
      uTuber Adam Neely is very anti-sprituality, making fun of people who tune or meditate to A432hz scientific tuning, or he makes fun of people who believe that different keys had different emotive effects. Yet for him to run around and just say "You have be be born with perfect pitch, or you just dont' got it," is complete reductionist Magical Thinking at this best.
      You should totally see my channel where I show that there is a spectral movement of SHAPES for each color and note as well. I call this my Geo-chromatic Extension.
      My stuuf is at: _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_

    • @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole
      @Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@RyanOConnorDrums OMG, I didn't realize you were Ryan from this channel. // Yes, if you just sit for a few minutes at time compare one note against another and write it down, you will very quickly see WHY you are able to identify a specific note. Because each note as a diffferent colring.
      There is an interesting story of a young piano tuner who fianlly went to an older, veteran tuner and said, "I can't seem to get the "twant" ouf the of the F# , no matter what I try. The old piano tuner laughted and said, "No, that's just how F# sounds!"

    • @caseydimaio9601
      @caseydimaio9601 Месяц назад

      @@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole Synesthesia can also involve texture such as with auditory-tactile synesthesia

  • @Kaimusic0
    @Kaimusic0 2 года назад +13

    By the way, a Violinst named Eddy Chen from Twosetviolin has gone on record to say that he also taught himself perfect pitch over a two year period.
    Here's him stating it himself ruclips.net/video/6oBs_et7l5o/видео.html

    • @Mike-rw2nh
      @Mike-rw2nh 2 года назад +2

      To anyone interested, Eddie explains his perfect pitch acquisition at 3:07 in the link above.

  • @mrquick6775
    @mrquick6775 2 года назад +1

    Good stuff!

  • @zacm4743
    @zacm4743 2 года назад +1

    This specific auditory function is known as Relative Pitch and is super teachable and practicable! Hell yeah and hats off to you for getting on this. Super important skill that a lot of producer and musician friends of mine have worked at.
    You’re not schizophrenic btw.
    Good shit dude

  • @tannerbrinkerhoff9820
    @tannerbrinkerhoff9820 Год назад +3

    Whats an easy way to memorize a B?

    • @RyanOConnorDrums
      @RyanOConnorDrums  Год назад +3

      Download a tuner/tone generator and every morning right when you wake up try to sing a B with no reference

    • @tannerbrinkerhoff9820
      @tannerbrinkerhoff9820 Год назад

      @@RyanOConnorDrums thanks. Also, why dont you just use the B and C major scales? Wouldn't that be a bit easier?

    • @RyanOConnorDrums
      @RyanOConnorDrums  Год назад +2

      @@tannerbrinkerhoff9820 nah bc with this system you use 7 notes instead of 12 so it’s more efficient

    • @RyanOConnorDrums
      @RyanOConnorDrums  Год назад +1

      @@tannerbrinkerhoff9820 nah bc with this system you use 7 notes instead of 12 so it’s more efficient

  • @lukealberti5094
    @lukealberti5094 Месяц назад

    This made no sense and was completely unhelpful and the way you talk is annoying.

  • @ThierryPianoSolo
    @ThierryPianoSolo 4 месяца назад +2

    So, this video is a scam, sorry... like all those videos who claim have found the magical method to learn perfect pitch. The only method is: be a baby between 0 and 3 years old and listen a lot of music.

  • @yesterdayproductions1019
    @yesterdayproductions1019 8 месяцев назад +33

    You CANNOT teach yourself perfect pitch. All you can do is teach yourself (at best) perfect RELATIVE PITCH. Perfect pitch is the quick recognition of any of the 12 notes played with no hesitation or reference. It begins in childhood. It cannot be taught. There is a difference between "Perfect Pitch" & "Perfect Relative Pitch".

    • @Pastas666
      @Pastas666 7 месяцев назад +24

      First of all there is not only Relative and Perfect Pitch out there
      So this statement is false
      and this is not Relative Pitch
      Because in relative Pitch you need a REFERENCE note
      And btw there is spectrum to the Perfect Pitch not all Perfects Pitch are equal
      Just because you have perfect pitch doesn't mean you have Jacob collier's ear look no other than Charles puth

    • @Pastas666
      @Pastas666 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@yesterdayproductions1019 There is Memory pitch
      Like people that can remember the first note of a song for example but they don't have perfect pitch
      and there is also True Pitch
      Saxologic has true pitch and he has video of how he developed and another video who compares himself with another guy who has perfect pitch
      Neither of these two pitches need a reference note to find the correct note like the Relative Pitch does

    • @TommyPleasure
      @TommyPleasure 7 месяцев назад +6

      So in essence:
      A. memory pitch
      B. True Pitch
      C. Relative Pitch
      D. perfect pitch

    • @adamthompson4352
      @adamthompson4352 6 месяцев назад +3

      What if you’re musically gifted but don’t have anything to do with music until adulthood? Does it still develop in childhood then?

    • @TommyPleasure
      @TommyPleasure 6 месяцев назад

      @@adamthompson4352 Probably.. we’ll at least that how it worked for me!