@@parvaizsheeri9766St 1 mei sirf gujjar and bakarwaal tribe hiii nhiii hai aur bhiii 10 tribe alag hai but due to linguistic , culture , language ,orign ka base pai hum ek hai isslyaaa humai ekmanaa jataaa naa kiii st milii hai islyaaa , wesaaa too gujjar and bakarwaal mei bhii bhot sub class hai sab koo kyaa alag alag kr dya jaya baseless argument
Being Pahadi my full support is with BAKARWAAL. Amir should learn some ethics isko lagta hai reels aur Facebook peh views ane se mai kuch bhi bol sakta hon,
St 1 mei sirf gujjar and bakarwaal tribe hiii nhiii hai aur bhiii 10 tribe alag hai but due to linguistic , culture , language ,orign ka base pai hum ek hai isslyaaa humai ek manaa jataaa naa kiii st milii hai islyaaa , wesaaa too gujjar and bakarwaal mei bhii bhot sub class hai sab koo kyaa alag alag kr dya jaya baseless argument
@@jafier9713 bhai jan agar kisi ko issue hai toh uski freedom hai bolne ki , koi kisi ko dabba ke nhi rakh sakta. rajwadon ka zamana gya abh democracy hai. j&K mein sabse khasta halat bakkarwalon ki hai , jo aaj tak change nhi hui
With due respect to all... being a kashmiri from Reasi living peacefully with both Gujjars and Bakarwals but yes they are different in more ways then similarities.
Bhi bakrwal k pass bhaot garri ha gujjar sa zada but hum ya nhi manta apki tra gujjar alg ya bakrwal alg ha hum too bhoat khush ha k gujjar bakrwal ha hum but bhi irfan sab zada hogya wasa app b hostel ma jyoo apna bachuu ko bjooo bhi wasaa masla kuch horr ha ya sirf apna apko 🎉sch bola amir bhi na ya 2nu khum ko divide kr raha ha
You people are so cheap. Such disputes are baseless and counterproductive. Instead of engaging in unnecessary conflicts, both Gujjars and Bakarwals should focus on their collective progress and development. These communities have a rich history of mutual support, brotherhood, and resilience, which should serve as the foundation for their future endeavors.
Bakarval bhai itna agressive mt hoye ..pehle apne nomadics ko aware kro .. unhe education k liye motive kro ... Is reservation se un bechaaru ka kya bne ga ... Benifits to aap hi jese log le jaate jo chahe vo gujjar ho ya bakerval ... Aap chika ka challenge de rhe ho .. kya aap hud nomadic ho .. aap migratory through out the year ho ?
Iam neither a gujjar nor a barkarwal but in my opinion there are many gujjars who are living in doks on seasonal bases....han thora bhot difference to har community mea hoty hain ..do bhai b hon ager wo b kuch baton mea alag hoty hain..ager har kisi ko alag quota milnay lag gaya to ya demand bhot sari community uthain gy ..jasa aj ST2 mea khai community hain aur bhot alag hain ak dusra sa ...jasa kuch lohar hain kuch nai hain ..aur kuch badi qoum hain .. like syed .. rajput ... if this type of sepration will continue for vote bank. ..in future.. some people will also demand separate qouta with in ST2 ..wich will not good for us phadis ...
Bakerwal bhai ki last generation ko smjhana bhtt mushkil tha... Even abi b ek jgah settle ni rhte as a result unke bchon ki study hmesha suffer krti rhi. Jo bhai ek jgah settle ho k study compelete kr chukke aaj mashAllah.. Achi positions pe hei
do a population census of, om, st, sc,rba,obc,and others and provide a reservation according to the ratio. the reservation was provided to drowntroden so that open merit students couldnot take away the seats of those groups, now what happened that those who took away the benefit of rservation now there children are taking away the seats of open merit by opting so, when they get higher marks and vacating the seats for reserved. open wale open merit mai, sc sc quota mai,st st mai, like wise. zyada marks aaye to open merit mai, kam aaye to reserved .
Agr unhone ni kaha to kya wo baat sahi ho gyi? With due respect to baji sb. Wo wali hain unki izzat krte hain hum But we all know k gujjars bakerwals ko apne saath to kya barabar b nhi smjte and they just use them for quota nothing else
Gujjar aur bakarwal ko ek hee st status mila tha gujjaru ne bachu ko padahiya aur bakarwaloo ne padahya hee nhi toh ksa wo aagha jaye ga st toh donu ki same the agr bakarwal b padhta bchu ko toh wo b aagha hee hota ab wo padhata hain nhi toh bol rha hain gujjar aagha ho ga aisa ksa ho aagha jye ga
@shahidachoudhary124 wahh jii bhai sahb, phir ap kis basis pe reservation ka faida uthate hoo ab agr bchoon ko pdhaya tha unhe mehnat bhi kralete reservation ki kya zaroorat thi.....reservation isliye degyi taaki backward communities like gujjar bakerwals uplift hoo but isme ab sirf gujjars ki monopoly hai tou bakerwals ka haq hai alg reservation maangna as per their population taaki wo bhi uplift hojaye
Nomads sirf bakerwals hain, gujjars na to unko apna maante aur apne barabar maante but unke saath naam jor kr quota enjoy kr rhe hain. Aur fir jb tribal hone ki baat aati ha to bakerwals ki photo lga dete hain
St 1 mei sirf gujjar and bakarwaal tribe hiii nhiii hai aur bhiii 10 tribe alag hai but due to linguistic , culture , language ,orign ka base pai hum ek hai isslyaaa humai ekmanaa jataaa naa kiii st milii hai islyaaa , wesaaa too gujjar and bakarwaal mei bhii bhot sub class hai sab koo kyaa alag alag kr dya jaya baseless argument
Gujjar and BAKARWAls are one.. Don't divide them for their political benefits... Pehle gujjar-bakarwals v/s pahari tha aab gujjar v/s BAKARWAL hogya... Gujjar and Bakarwals are United some of the political puppets are doing such type of activities...
Bakrwal bache bouth sy phre likhe hea but unki S. T certificate he ne bntii khoo k unke pass records he ne khnbdoosh hone ki wja sy plz nazer sani ki jieA
Amir bahi apko personal jatay huya sharm huna chahiya..u are not able to talk with shahnwaz sb ..try to learn ethics.U need to learn how to talk with someone..laughing is not a solution.
St 1 mei sirf gujjar and bakarwaal tribe hiii nhiii hai aur bhiii 10 tribe alag hai but due to linguistic , culture , language ,orign ka base pai hum ek hai isslyaaa humai ekmanaa jataaa naa kiii st milii hai islyaaa , wesaaa too gujjar and bakarwaal mei bhii bhot sub class hai sab koo kyaa alag alag kr dya jaya baseless argument
Sehial bhela hai inko Ab bs ladai karna ka kam hia assu mahina ma inki shakil be nahi dikhti khai kohi aus mahina ma dikha ga jo government employees ho ga aj sardiu ma free yahe kam hai bs
I am neither a gujar Or a bakarwal but i have seen Gujars they are very rich as compare to Bakarwals. Separate bakarwal quta from Gujars.
You are not a gujjar nor bakarwal .. you are a separatist 😂
@mohdarif7899 you are using backarwals for the own benefit if you have guts given them seperate cota.
Bilkul sahe
@@parvaizsheeri9766St 1 mei sirf gujjar and bakarwaal tribe hiii nhiii hai aur bhiii 10 tribe alag hai but due to linguistic , culture , language ,orign ka base pai hum ek hai isslyaaa humai ekmanaa jataaa naa kiii st milii hai islyaaa , wesaaa too gujjar and bakarwaal mei bhii bhot sub class hai sab koo kyaa alag alag kr dya jaya baseless argument
Bakarwal deserve separate quota
10% unko b do oor OM ko 5% pe lao😂😂😂😂😂
Being Pahadi my full support is with BAKARWAAL.
Amir should learn some ethics isko lagta hai reels aur Facebook peh views ane se mai kuch bhi bol sakta hon,
Yes u r right
@ they bcm spokespersons without any affiliation, self proclaimed leaders of so called organisations
Just few days are left of st -2 tumhare abba bjp hi janaza nikale gi....
Bakkarwal Asli nomads hai , inko haq milne chaiye , ye gujjaro ki gundagardi nhi chalegi
What's gundagardi??
@@AyazAhmed-u5y that gujjar guy is not letting him speak out his complaints, is j&K some kind of fiefdom?
St 1 mei sirf gujjar and bakarwaal tribe hiii nhiii hai aur bhiii 10 tribe alag hai but due to linguistic , culture , language ,orign ka base pai hum ek hai isslyaaa humai ek manaa jataaa naa kiii st milii hai islyaaa , wesaaa too gujjar and bakarwaal mei bhii bhot sub class hai sab koo kyaa alag alag kr dya jaya baseless argument
Reservation policy should not be more than 50% .
Bakerwals ka liya 50% quote reserved kar doo😂😂 because i belongs to a bakerwal community but mera st certificate paa gujar haa
Bhai tum Jasa kalng he tu han jb hmri garden community ki awaz dabatay han.
@sanamZubair-t1n bhai firstly aaap likhna sikkkh loo phir batana muja
@@sultanhamid7589 Bro depends on population agar bakerwals ki population 50% hai too app lo 50% quote
@@theeagle4296 jis hissab sa bakerwal bacha paida karta hnn aus hissab sa toh ho jay ge😂😂
Bjp ka patha, isko ye pata nhi ke bol kya rha hu
G&B is one but Bakarwal ko kis ne bola apne bachu ko shiksha na do.. but unfortunately yeh BJP krwa rahi
Kuch glt hai ??? Religious bigot
Bilkul
Ye mat bolo phir gujroon ko kisne kaha apne bchoon se mehnat mat kraav wo kyu reservation se seats lerhe
It is not about pdhna and mehnat it is about opportunities and exposure
Bakerwals deserve separate quota
Agr ye issue genuine hota to Mian Altaf sb b utha sakte thae ye issue Parliament mein.
Totally Baseless
Tujhe kya takleef ho rhi , chup Kar ke baith
@ankitrana306 bhai jan ye language kiyoon use karta ho mein altaf sab se ap ko zada koom ka dard hai
@@jafier9713 bhai jan agar kisi ko issue hai toh uski freedom hai bolne ki , koi kisi ko dabba ke nhi rakh sakta. rajwadon ka zamana gya abh democracy hai. j&K mein sabse khasta halat bakkarwalon ki hai , jo aaj tak change nhi hui
@@ankitrana306 bhai jan wo nahi bol raha sub ka haq hai lekin language achi use karni chahiye baki jo aap ka haq hai wo mangoo
Gujjars are using bakkarwals
In simple words there should be no reservation.
In J&K reservation should be abolished.
Irfan bhai voice of bakarwal
More power to Bakarwal community, fight for your rights, it is high time, and this is yours time. Love and support from Ladakh
Bakarwal padtay hi nahi too job Kahan say milay gee
Bakarwal guy is right upto large extent.
With due respect to all... being a kashmiri from Reasi living peacefully with both Gujjars and Bakarwals but yes they are different in more ways then similarities.
Very good irfan bhai. Bakarwals ko 4 percent alag quota milna chahiye.
4 q 40 lo
Bhi bakrwal k pass bhaot garri ha gujjar sa zada but hum ya nhi manta apki tra gujjar alg ya bakrwal alg ha hum too bhoat khush ha k gujjar bakrwal ha hum but bhi irfan sab zada hogya wasa app b hostel ma jyoo apna bachuu ko bjooo bhi wasaa masla kuch horr ha ya sirf apna apko 🎉sch bola amir bhi na ya 2nu khum ko divide kr raha ha
You people are so cheap.
Such disputes are baseless and counterproductive. Instead of engaging in unnecessary conflicts, both Gujjars and Bakarwals should focus on their collective progress and development. These communities have a rich history of mutual support, brotherhood, and resilience, which should serve as the foundation for their future endeavors.
Bakarval bhai itna agressive mt hoye ..pehle apne nomadics ko aware kro .. unhe education k liye motive kro ... Is reservation se un bechaaru ka kya bne ga ... Benifits to aap hi jese log le jaate jo chahe vo gujjar ho ya bakerval ... Aap chika ka challenge de rhe ho .. kya aap hud nomadic ho .. aap migratory through out the year ho ?
Amir choudhary is right💯
BAHARWAL should be added to PVGTs
Yes Amir brother❤
Iam neither a gujjar nor a barkarwal but in my opinion there are many gujjars who are living in doks on seasonal bases....han thora bhot difference to har community mea hoty hain ..do bhai b hon ager wo b kuch baton mea alag hoty hain..ager har kisi ko alag quota milnay lag gaya to ya demand bhot sari community uthain gy ..jasa aj ST2 mea khai community hain aur bhot alag hain ak dusra sa ...jasa kuch lohar hain kuch nai hain ..aur kuch badi qoum hain .. like syed .. rajput ... if this type of sepration will continue for vote bank. ..in future.. some people will also demand separate qouta with in ST2 ..wich will not good for us phadis ...
gd amir bhi gujjar bakerwals ekta hamesha kaym rahay ga
Bakerwal bhai ki last generation ko smjhana bhtt mushkil tha... Even abi b ek jgah settle ni rhte as a result unke bchon ki study hmesha suffer krti rhi. Jo bhai ek jgah settle ho k study compelete kr chukke aaj mashAllah.. Achi positions pe hei
Bakarwal bhaiyon ko bahut kam mila hai is baat per koi shak nahin chahe aap chak karva Lo
Provide reservation according to the population.that is equality.
New criteria “CHHIKKA “introduced sucessfully
Wo tera baap modi karega
Ya Chhikka kya hai
Wah Irfan bahi u r 💯 right
Isse acha khtm hi kr do reservation kisi ko kisi se jealousy nhi hoga sab ladai khtm #Saveopenmerit #JusticeforOM
Well said bakarwal is lower than gujjar , gujjar enjoyed high post in every sector
Rajori k 80 %juggar kashmir ki dhokon me aate hain
Wo bakkarwal hai
@@ankitrana306 nahi bhi juggar hain wo
Bai rizak Dena wala Allah pak he apnae gar ka khana logu k samne nat kru
Ye baat unhone sahi batai ki ST aur SC ke richest of rich se reservation chheen kar OM/ General ko diya jaye.
Ma Gujjar hoon ham seasonal migration karta hai.
Sahi kaha Bakerwal bhai ne
Great speech from Irfan ah
Bakerwal zindabad
do a population census of, om, st, sc,rba,obc,and others and provide a reservation according to the ratio.
the reservation was provided to drowntroden so that open merit students couldnot take away the seats of those groups, now what happened that those who took away the benefit of rservation now there children are taking away the seats of open merit by opting so, when they get higher marks and vacating the seats for reserved. open wale open merit mai, sc sc quota mai,st st mai, like wise. zyada marks aaye to open merit mai, kam aaye to reserved .
Gujjers is waqat har sector mai officer hai woh bhi high gazetted.woh ham se 10saal agay chalte hai promotion mai
Laar wale baji sahab itne salon se hakoomat karte aa rahe hain unhon ne kabhi nahi kha ki juggar bakarwal alag alag hone chehey
Agr unhone ni kaha to kya wo baat sahi ho gyi? With due respect to baji sb. Wo wali hain unki izzat krte hain hum
But we all know k gujjars bakerwals ko apne saath to kya barabar b nhi smjte and they just use them for quota nothing else
New divide and rule started pehlaa gujjar pahadii chaltaa rahaa abb new model market mei agyaa
Gujjar aur bakarwal ko ek hee st status mila tha gujjaru ne bachu ko padahiya aur bakarwaloo ne padahya hee nhi toh ksa wo aagha jaye ga st toh donu ki same the agr bakarwal b padhta bchu ko toh wo b aagha hee hota ab wo padhata hain nhi toh bol rha hain gujjar aagha ho ga aisa ksa ho aagha jye ga
@shahidachoudhary124 wahh jii bhai sahb, phir ap kis basis pe reservation ka faida uthate hoo ab agr bchoon ko pdhaya tha unhe mehnat bhi kralete reservation ki kya zaroorat thi.....reservation isliye degyi taaki backward communities like gujjar bakerwals uplift hoo but isme ab sirf gujjars ki monopoly hai tou bakerwals ka haq hai alg reservation maangna as per their population taaki wo bhi uplift hojaye
Good Irfan byi
Nomads sirf bakerwals hain, gujjars na to unko apna maante aur apne barabar maante but unke saath naam jor kr quota enjoy kr rhe hain. Aur fir jb tribal hone ki baat aati ha to bakerwals ki photo lga dete hain
St 1 mei sirf gujjar and bakarwaal tribe hiii nhiii hai aur bhiii 10 tribe alag hai but due to linguistic , culture , language ,orign ka base pai hum ek hai isslyaaa humai ekmanaa jataaa naa kiii st milii hai islyaaa , wesaaa too gujjar and bakarwaal mei bhii bhot sub class hai sab koo kyaa alag alag kr dya jaya baseless argument
Sub classification whole 20% ST wheather st1
.st2
Sub categorization to be implemented in JK from March..
Gujjar and bakerkal r different
Let me summarise it ...debate of Gujjar Vs Bakarwwal is similar to ST1 Vs ST2. In all aspects economic, social and political.
Sub categorisation can only do justice with bakerwaal community.
Kota should be bifurcated.....na insafi ha bakarwals ke sath bakarwals ka haq juggar khaa gy
Bakarwals are real nomads
Totally reservation system khatam kar doo jise me dam ho ghaa vo seat nikla ghaa❤
Bakarwals are deserving for the reservation upto 90%
Gujjar and BAKARWAls are one.. Don't divide them for their political benefits... Pehle gujjar-bakarwals v/s pahari tha aab gujjar v/s BAKARWAL hogya... Gujjar and Bakarwals are United some of the political puppets are doing such type of activities...
Bakerwals ko 5% milna chahiya basically woh hi asli nomads hai.st ko 5%
Bakrwal bache bouth sy phre likhe hea but unki S. T certificate he ne bntii khoo k unke pass records he ne khnbdoosh hone ki wja sy plz nazer sani ki jieA
gujjar aur bakerwal ko ST ek sath mili thi aj gujar prh k agy nikl gya inko ab alag quto chahye kyu bai 1991 se abi tk kya kiya
I condemn this issue is totally baseless and meaningless talk about unite to fight for islam
Totally basess issue
Humre cost same hn...humre culture same hn...
Gujjar + Bakrwal = Strong BHARAT🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
💯%
Yes absolutely
Jai hind
50% quota for bakerwals
Afsos
Kalakot 4 Bakarwal KAS ha Rajouri Poonch se 25 Bakarwal KAS ha
In actual bakarwal deserves 7 % quota and gujjar deserve 3% only
Bahiii 2nooo ik haa kya hova bahiii
Bhakarwal deserve
In ko 100% reservation do....open ko baba ji ka thek rahega
Ma gujjar hoo humri family dook ma jati ha
St srf ek community ko ni milte
Lo watch' b cretria ban gya st k
If Language is not criteria Why pahri speaking .....shame on leaders who projected paharies as ST at the cost of general and poor. So dad.
Pahadi inclusion is totally unpolitical no doubt tribes are never decided on basis of language
Hum ek hn....bakerwal aur gujjar...
Bakerwal are being discriminated against by gujjars.
Bakarwal ko alag kro
Justice for bakarwals
Her cost ko alg cost ksa mlr ge
Sub categorisation of st is only solution
Ponch kai , loge ammer say ameer hogyai ..
Ias ips kps lecturer professor..
All are from Ponch and only because of reservation...
Just jealousy of some chatukar nothing else
Quota should be separated
70 per cent dana chhaya
Bakarwal community is in deep danger, their quota must be separated as per their ratio.
Yaa blaa kituu ningli....
Amir bahi apko personal jatay huya sharm huna chahiya..u are not able to talk with shahnwaz sb ..try to learn ethics.U need to learn how to talk with someone..laughing is not a solution.
St 1 mei sirf gujjar and bakarwaal tribe hiii nhiii hai aur bhiii 10 tribe alag hai but due to linguistic , culture , language ,orign ka base pai hum ek hai isslyaaa humai ekmanaa jataaa naa kiii st milii hai islyaaa , wesaaa too gujjar and bakarwaal mei bhii bhot sub class hai sab koo kyaa alag alag kr dya jaya baseless argument
Rista aur gustaba tu b kha skta hai bahi don't misleading must study first
Za banda Sai Bala
bakarwal ko alag se 6% milna chaiye ST1 se
Ratio
Sub classification
Loog pagal ho ga hain ya bjp ki chal ha samjo otherwise general category ki tarah regret karo ga
Sehial bhela hai inko Ab bs ladai karna ka kam hia assu mahina ma inki shakil be nahi dikhti khai kohi aus mahina ma dikha ga jo government employees ho ga aj sardiu ma free yahe kam hai bs
In ko bjp se kuch mila ha ki juggar phadi ki ladai khatam ho gaye abhi juggar bakarwal ko ladao
Bakarwal phadioun ke agent hein?????
St ma kitne cost ha
Hahaha.. After watching this Kapil Sharma hiding his face from new comedian irfan..😂😂
Category end karo
yrr kya drama lagaya hai we are muslims
Bhai pdke nukri lelo ye reservation k chakkr mai kb tk rahoge