This sermon was preached by R.C. Sproul at Saint Andrew's Chapel in Sanford, Fla. Hear more from his series in the gospel of Mark: ruclips.net/p/PL30acyfm60fWpFiMnbLmGb8WD5YXXOAxX
I've made it a priority to learn what the Bible teaches about Hell. It's almost never taught. My brother and mother chose to spend eternity in Hell, to reject the Gospel several times...they were turned over to reprobate minds before they descended into Hades, the holding place of torment before the final judgement, the Great White Throne. The Lord told me that's where they went. And I can say that it haunts me almost every day. I think of the torment and and darkness they face forever as I meditate on the story in Luke about the rich man and Lazarus. I often think that they do remember the times I pleaded with them to repent and receive Jesus. My mother said, "I don't believe it " as I presented her the Gospel for the last time before she died. Satan blinds the lost so they can descend into torment with him. When I witness I talk about Hell and make no apologies. The truth will set you free.
@@tongakhan230 Did you listen to the sermon? It does not seem like it since he clearly points to the verses about the eternality of hell. Where the worm does not die and the fire is not quenched. This has been the orthodox position of the Church for centuries and more importantly what Jesus taught and what the scriptures teach. As he said in the sermon, I don't like it but it's true.
@@vanillawarrior I'm sure that kid Tonga just came here to troll, if he listened, he couldn't help but realise that hell is a real place. R.C is a sound biblical teacher, false religions like SDAs suppress the truth in unrighteousness.
R. C. Sproul hit the nail on the head. Preaching on hell has been practically banished from the pulpits today. We really need more fire and brimstone messages in the 21st Century to remind us of the absolute holiness of God and to be thankful He sent us His Son to save us from His wrath.
I just told my daughter a couple weeks ago I was looking for a hellfire preacher. Preachers NOT preaching on hell are the reason everyone thinks we all go to Heaven.
@@MK_337 I love John MacArthur. I listen to all his older sermons and his new ones. I'm actually looking for one within 20 miles of my house. They're hard to find.
Just a reference to a prophecy about such preachers. Acts 20:29 I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness, 30 and FROM AMONG YOU you yourselves men will rise and SPEAK TWISTED THINGS to draw away the disciples after themselves. There is no hell fire. Hell is another word for the grave. Even Jesus went to this hell when he died.
@harry balls5150 Look at all the other comments here. Tonga Khan and Iary Snw have an issue with hell. It's probably a Jehovah's Witness belief. They think it's mistranslated from Gehenna. Tonga is an island near Fiji. Polynesian.
I sure do love RC”s preaching. He had a real gift. Hell is real. Definitely not a place anybody wants to end up. Praise Jesus and His sacrifice for us.
What is the difference if I might ask? The RCC borrowed this hell fire teaching from pagan sources. These charlatans just parrot it. Isn't it a case of 'from the frying pan into the fire'?
@@tongakhan230 Jesus spoke of hellfire and everlasting torment more than any prophet or apostle in the Bible. Just because you don’t believe it, doesn’t mean it’s not true. What fixed my doubt as to the legitimacy of the word, was a pretty simple principle. And it goes like this: What is the MOTIVE behind it? I always ask that question. When the RCC ruled the world with an iron hand and a ready bic lighter, they taught the horrors of hell and used it to cause fear. But since the Protestant reformation, they have backtracked on the clear teaching of hell in favor of a user friendly version of Christianity that includes lies like purgatory. What then was their motive for changing it up? I suggest that they wanted to maintain legitimacy and their place on top of the religious world. So then, we ask, “What is RC Sproul’s motive? Could it be that he believes it to be true and wants to be faithful to God whatever the cost? Most importantly, what is the motive of the Bible as a whole? What people group is exalted above another by it? Christians are counted as sheep for the slaughter and are told to love their enemies. We are taught to share wealth and be benevolent, and after we accomplish all that is asked of us, we are told that we are unprofitable servants. 😩. The Jews fare none better. Their history and the character of the average Jewish tribe is generally a who’s who of miserable failure and indifference towards God. I argue that the Bible is true because man would not have written it. Not on his best day. It came from a different source.
@@washedinhisblood.3906 : Jesus True Disciples will be ONE just as Jesus and God are one (John 17:22). (1 Corinthians 1:10) Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all SPEAK IN AGREEMENT and that there should be NO DIVISIONS among you, but that you may be COMPLETELY UNITED in the same mind and in the same line of thought.
On a personal level, I need to re-read Edwards' sermon Sinners in the Hand of an Angry God. Friends, we hang by a single thread of a spider's silk over the fire of eternal torment. It is God's mercy that preserves us.
Thank you R.C. for this powerful, penetrating, shaking and encouraging timely message! To share this over life or death deciding warning ⚠️ from Jesus Himself, I realize the utter dependence on the Holy Spirit‘s unfailing guidance ! This „hell-subject“ requires much grace, holy boldness, courage and a humble heart if anyone should listen, really listen. But thanks be to God for then „taking the matter in His own hands“ !!!
Sadly many of pastors and church leaders fall under this category in this current culture! Almost every "church" is consumed with legalism/ moralism self righteous to the core! Another great sermon from Bro Sproul
I have to share this teaching with each of my children and grandchildren. I could not live with my own concience if I did not try to save them, and some friends.
With respect. Share Bible truths. These video charlatans do not teach any Bible truths. There is no torturing of persons AFTER death. The dead CEASE TO EXIST (Genesis 3:19). That is why God purposed RESURRECTIONS for the dead (Acts 24:15). Resurrection bring back INTO EXISTENCE those who DO NOT EXIST. Here is the hope for the righteous. Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
@@rabbit4111 : How can what I wrote be my opinion when the clear scriptures are cited and quoted. I played no part in writing the Bible. If one cannot understand something, maybe I can help.
@@tongakhan230 You are very mistaken! Read the Bible and you will see your error! RC Sproul speaks and teaches the truth! Hell is real and the ones who choose to go there will be tormented forever!
@@barryhamilton3112 : In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1). Where exactly will this oxygen-less fire be burning? If RCS teaches the truth, then God got it wrong. For God teaches us that the dead CEASE to exist. That is why it is called DEATH and not TRANSITION. Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going. (Psalm 146:3, 4) Do not put your trust in princes Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation. 4 His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground; On that very day his thoughts perish. There is no life continuity at death. That there is was Satan' first lie as shown at Genesis 3:4. These fear mongers are promoting Satan's lie. That is why Psalms 146:3 tells us not to trust these humans. Stay with what God teaches through his Word.
Amen Sproul. We need to teach about hell with more care, whatever it takes to ingrain this doctrin into the minds of men. May we cling to The Lord and His many mercies. God bless you all.
The bible simply states that hell is the grave. Even Jesus went there when he died. These macabre images lie only in the minds of sadists. Certainly not from a God of love. Just a shared thought.
@@user-zu2bw7ig5v : Note how Acts 2:27 is translated. KJ21 because Thou wilt not leave my soul in HELL, neither wilt Thou suffer Thine Holy One to see corruption. CEV The Lord won't leave me in THE GRAVE. I am his holy one, and he won't let my body decay. EHV because you will not abandon my life to THE GRAVE, nor will you let your Holy One see decay. The Greek word is 'hades'. In the Bible it just means the state of the dead. Namely NONEXISTENCE. (Genesis 3:19, Ecclesiastes 9:10). With the apostasy, this hell has been changed into a place of torment to subdue the people to the Priests by fear. Any JW can help understand that everyone who dies ENDS UP IN HELL Meaning the GRAVE. Jesus too ended up in hell as the prophecy at the outset shows.
It is a good thing we have men of God like this preaching truth. We need to fear the wrath of the living God becs it rly helps keep us in line we are rebellious and we need to realise we are playing with fire it's a blessing thanku so much xo
How can these lies be any truth? Even Jesus went to hell when he died. Hell is a word the KJV uses for the GRAVE. Check out various translations of Revelation 20:14.
@@tongakhan230 Then why are you listening to lies? Perhaps deep down you know that this message is true, and that Hell is real. May the Lord open your eyes to His truth. As long as you’re alive, there is hope. Perhaps you should respectfully ask God if Hell is real, or if it is a lie.
BEAUTIFUL SERMON THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE REMINDER EVEN TO ME WHO WORRIES ABOUT IT JUST ABOUT EVERYDAY LOVE YOU BROTHER I BELIEVE IT IS WORSE THAN LAKE OF FIRE BUT WITHOUT GOD THERE IS NO LOVE IN JESUS NAME AMEN.
Hell is so watered down, I've known people who say they know they're going, but they're unwilling to grasp what Jesus is giving them. If they knew the hell I fear, they'd be on their knees.
There is nothing to fear about the biblical hell. Even Jesus went to this hell when he died. Hell is another word for the grave. Everyone who dies ends up in this hell. Those who get obedience through threats have nothing to do with the God of the Bible.
@@felipekennedy3135 : It should be a fear of displeasing God. Not : 'If you don't do this I'll punish you' type of fear. Psalms 111:10 The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of wisdom.
All those observing his orders show good insight. His praise endures forever.
@@tongakhan230 friend please take your philosofies to your pastor, or to whosoever you wish for who said you should work out your salvation with trembling and fear is the WORD OF GOD, not me i am just the messenger.(PHILIPPIANS 2;12) now if you don't hear Gods Words, it's because you are not of God so i advise you to please work out your Salvation with Trembling and Fear.
@@tongakhan230 AND FEAR NOT THEM WHICH KILL THE BODY, BUT ARE NOT ABLE TO KILL THE SOUL; BUT RATHER (FEAR HIM) WHICH IS ABLE TO DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND BODY IN HELL.(matthew10;28)
Even in regular evangelical churches, too many people are living their best lives now because their pastors don’t want to chase them off with sermons about salvation and hell. It’s so tragic. In 1983, a Christian friend gave me a John MacArthur sermon on a cassette. The topic was hell. It got my attention. I wanted to know more. Years later, when I think of people I know and love, or acquaintances, or people I pass on the street, my complete belief in a literal hell and their potential doom, certainly drives me to constant prayer for them and a need to tell them the truth.
Why would a God of love threaten someone to get his loyalty? Isn't that what Satan wants us to believe? That God is a monster? Hell is just another word for the grave. Even Jesus went to hell when he died. Acts 2:27 King James Bible Because thou wilt not leave my soul in HELL, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
That is true. The more we speak about hell and the lake of fire, the more obvious it becomes just how perverted a religion Christianity is. My inner atheist fully approves this message.
I'm a Christian and it's still a very sobering thought there is literally one word you can say when you die and face God and that's Christ. There is no other reason sufficient enough that will not put you in hell.
Just a few words of comfort from the bible. Everyone who dies ends up in hell. Even Jesus did. It is another word for the grave. No one goes anywhere outside earth's atmosphere. Humans will always live on earth as God intended. Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
I'm glad and thankful for God's word he said I AM RHE LORD THY FID I CHANGETH NOT PRAISE HOS HILY NAME FOREVER. I L9VE IT IT IS A DANGEROUS THING RO FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE LIVUNG GOD AND YOU ARE RIGHT. THEY NEVER STOP SUFFERING. FOREVER
There is no fear of going to hell for those who believe wholeheartedly in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus....He has paid the full price for all sins forever......when you believe that in your heart you are justified in the sight of God and you are already a citizen of heaven, even if you are still on earth....Paul's gospel of grace and faith is salvation without works of any kind.
I think the bible states that humans will live forever on earth (Psalms 37:29). Heaven is not a destination for humans. Even Jesus pointed that out (John 3:13). Just a shared thought.
@@tongakhan230 hey brother that text in John is Jesus saying that nobody has been to heaven and come back to speak on the things seen in heaven. We most definitely won’t be on earth forever
@@ken.wyd_ : That is, sorry to say, a deliberate corruption of a scripture to fit an agenda. Lazarus and others were resurrected by Jesus. Had they been to heaven and then recalled by Jesus? They never mentioned any experience after death of such. Humans were created to live on earth, They CANNOT live away from earth's environment. The promised resurrection of the dead under God's government will be on earth (Acts 24:15). If Adam didn't sin and bring in death, he would have still have been with us and we wouldn't be showing age and dying. Earth wasn't some testing ground or transit stage of any kind. It was to be humans' permanent home. Satan thwarted it for a while. God's purpose will come to fruition. Read Revelation 21:3,4 and see whether the prophecy states that humans are going to be WITH God or that God or his rulership is going to be WITH humans. Which rule will change conditions on earth for humans to live on forever. Why would anyone want to go to any heaven. I hope this helps.
James 2:14 what does it profit my brother if someone says he has Faith but does not have Works? Can Faith save him? Verse 17 thus also Faith by itself, if it does not have works... Is dead. Reverse 20 but do you want to know oh foolish man, that faith without works is dead?? Was not Abraham Our Father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? Verse 22 do you see that faith was working together with his works? And by works, Faith was made perfect? Verse 24 you see then that a man is justified by works and not by faith only.
@@astrialindah2773 poor poor you, I assume you are catholic....I was for 60 yrs till the holy Spirit opened my eyes in 2016...….you are stuck and not even understanding the bible...you need a good bible teacher...I can recommend one on you tube but I know you wont follow it up...no use me saying any more, you are lost like all Catholics....pray for guidance apart from that system.
@@kevinruggerio1796 okay, still does not answer my question why he called out Calvinists specifically. Not that I disagree with you, cause I agree. In fact, I came to be a Calvinist in working my salvation with fear and trembling. He picked the fight, not me, and I want to know why.
No sir. “Eternal fire” (Matthew 25:41) “Unquenchable fire” (Matthew 3:12) “Shame and everlasting contempt” (Daniel 12:2) A place where “the fire is not quenched” (Mark 9:44-49) “Everlasting destruction” (2 Thessalonians 1:9) A place where “the smoke of torment rises forever and ever” (Revelation 14:10-11) “A lake of burning sulfur” where the wicked are “tormented day and night forever and ever” (Revelation 20:10) And others..
Does it mean that someone fell for that stuff about hell. How do worms get to hell. Do their souls go there when they die? How do they eat without mouths? Hell is another word for the grave. Even Jesus went to hell when he died. All who die end up in this hell.
@@tongakhan230 nothing is impossible with the Almighty How did the whale swallow Jonah How did the red Sea split and dry land appeared for the Israelites How did the axe head float How did a donkey talk How did Peter walk on Water How did water come from a rock How did How did How did With God all things are possible. What is impossible with man is POSSIBLE WITH GOD Luke 18:27✝️ " So it will be at the end of the age. The Angeles will come forth, seperate the wicked from the just and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.' Matthew 13:49-50✝️ What about those who have no teeth TEETH WILL BE PROVIDED🎤🎤🎤
@@jessyjonas4988 : Rather droll. But seriously. There are some things that it is impossible for God to do. Titus 1:2 and is based on a hope of the everlasting life that God, who CANNOT LIE, promised long ago; God cannot lose his immortality and change into a human and die. Malachi 3:6 “For I am Jehovah; I DO NOT CHANGE. Habakkuk 1:12 Are you not from everlasting, O Jehovah? O my God, my Holy One, YOU DO NOT DIE. Taking some unseen part of a dead person and somehow subjecting it to heat is not only unscriptural but illogical. The pain receptors and the brain are needed to feel anything. These are rotting in a grave. How is there any fire without oxygen? Fire is a symbol of destruction. Never of torture. Only Satan would want people to believe that God is a monster and a sadist. The thought of burning people was detestable to God. Jeremiah 7:31 They have built the high places of To′pheth, which is in the Valley of the Son of Hin′nom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, something that I had not commanded and THAT HAD NEVER EVEN COME INTO MY HEART.’
I know , biblically, Moses tried to change God’s mind in not destroying the people if he could find 10 righteousness people and God was willing to do so, in other words, to change His mind , so I do think that God will change His mind in the eternal suffering of the lost sparing the pain that the saved would feel knowing that some of their dear ones are burning. for an eternity. He. Is love till the end.❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️
Why fire tho of all things that's thr worst anything but fire isn't the scary demons bugs and who knows what els plus pitch blackness enough but fire is so horrible and painful forever oh my that is just horrifying and depressing
You are ignorant of the Word of God (Christ). You had better repent of your unbelief and ask Christ to save you from your sins and from His wrath. "It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment". (Hebrews 9:27).
You lack understanding of Scripture, the Word of God (Christ). Repentance is a change of mind (metanoia) and only God (Christ) can bring one to repentance.
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All those in hell will be given another opportunity to be saved. That means; to qualify for everlasting life on earth. Acts 24:15 And I have hope toward God, which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a resurrection of BOTH the righteous and the unrighteous. Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it. Hell is just another word for the grave. Check various translations of Revelation 20:14.
@@tongakhan230denying hell fundamentally denies aspects of Gods character. His eternality , righteousness and holiness. You can’t believe in the God of the bible without believing in conscious eternal punishment.
Yes! God through Jesus is reconciling humans to himself. Soon, God's government will take over the earth and restore paradise for humans to live on forever. Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
@harry balls5150 : The bible does dent the trinity. There is no need for another book to do so. 'No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME.' - 1 John 4:12. That means NEVER. Unless Jesus was never seen by John and others, this rules out Jesus being God at any time or in any form. Hope this helps.
@harry balls5150 : Jesus is the best source to ask if he was God or not. He should know. Let us ask Jesus. Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, MY GOD, MY GOD, why hast thou forsaken me? John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to MY GOD, and your God. Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of MY GOD, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD, and the name of the city of MY GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY GOD: and I will write upon him my new name. The above quotes are from the 'unadulterated' KJV. May I ask as to who Jesus' God is? I've come across some illogical explanations of Jesus being 100% God or 100% human to explain away his statements as a human depending on which dilemma props up. The 2nd and 3rd examples cannot be explained away in this way. In the 2nd example, Jesus spoke AFTER being resurrected by God. He was no longer a human but a spirit being. In the 3rd example, Jesus is BACK IN HIS HEAVENLY GLORY when he makes such a statement. This is better than taking some words of Paul and giving it a twist to fit an agenda. Will there be an answer forthcoming? This isn't to belittle anyone. This is an aid to reason in order to ascertain the truth..
@harry balls5150 : Jesus didn't show himself in 500 different places at the same time. 1 Corinthians 15:5 and that he appeared to Ce′phas, and then to the Twelve. 6 After that he appeared to more than 500 BROTHERS AT ONE TIME, most of whom are still with us, though some have fallen asleep in death. Being an angel once more, Jesus took on DIFFERENT human forms to be seen. Each time no one recognized him until he spoke. KJV Mark 16:12 After that he appeared in ANOTHER FORM unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country. Jesus is the one who spoke to Paul (Saul) not God. Acts 9:4........“Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?” 5 He asked: “Who are you, Lord?” He said: “I am JESUS, whom you are persecuting. This is an aid to understanding what the scriptures actually teach. God has a people today who teach the truth. I am learning it from them. Is there an answer to my earlier question? Who is Jesus' God? If there isn't, do not worry. Jesus' God is the same God as his disciples' God (John 20:17).
Actually, hell is the safest place to be right now with all this pandemic and other troubles happening all over the world. Hell is a word for the Grave. Even Job wanted to be in hell when he was suffering on earth. In hell (the grave) a person remains nonexistent and thus can feel or sense nothing. Job 14:13 NIV “If only you would hide me in THE GRAVE and conceal me till your anger has passed! If only you would set me a time and then remember me! WYC Who giveth this to me, that thou defend me in HELL, and that thou hide me, till thy great vengeance pass; and that thou set to me a time, in which thou have mind on me?
@@marybeth23: It is not a place where people can go or visit. It is a state of being. It is the grave. Even Jesus went to hell when he died. All who die end up in hell. It is another word used by the KJV for THE GRAVE.
@@tongakhan230 If you listened to R.C.Sproul's message and don't believe in hell. You are in for a horrible awakening. I pray for you to know the salvation of Jesus Christ and then you will know the reality of Heaven when you die and not the torment of Hell. Prayers f ou r you Tonga Khan..
@@glennamcdaniel1490 : With respect. Heaven is a real place. However, humans will have no home in heaven (John 3:13). The earth is where faithful and righteous humans will live forever. Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it. Hell, however, is not a place. It is a state of nonexistence. Usually referred to as the GRAVE. Jesus was in hell (the grave) for nearly 3 days (Acts 2:27). These video charlatans take people up the gum tree.
Excellent sermon & yea Jesus is referring to young believers being offended but also little children because the teaching of Jesus includes the natural "first, then the "spiritual." The whole context is about letting little children come to Him so yes, He is referring to them first. Consider the terrible demented things don't to children by adults throughout the centuries & apply the judgement of eternal fire to them!!! What a frightful day that will be for the offenders of children & young believers!!!
@lary Snw : Quite so! Why the gullible fall for these lies beats me. Jesus too went to hell when he died. It is another word for the grave. Everyone who dies ends up in this biblical hell. Acts 2:27 King James Bible Because thou wilt not leave my soul in HELL, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Contemporary English Version The Lord won't leave me in THE GRAVE. I am his holy one, and he won't let my body decay.
Yes, 2 Thess. 1:9 says “away from the presence of the Lord”, but I think it’s the joyful, approving presence of God. One of the parables (vineyard owner) talks about the evil rebels who refused to worship God, the “landowner” says to, “slay them in my presence”.
@@JG-np1qg : 2 Thessalonians 1:9 These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength, The opposite of everlasting life is everlasting death or destruction. A cessation of existence.
I believe that everyone should thumb it down. What a load of nonsense. How do worms get into this hell? Do their souls go there when they die on earth. Is everyone losing their minds. Sorry! Just a general statement.
@@maxsams4550 : These worms existed in the vicinity of Gehenna, the refuse dump which was constantly burning outside Jerusalem. Whatever missed being DESTROYED by the fire, the worms ate up. Carcasses were thrown in too. All this can be Googled. Getting led up the gum tree by charlatans is mind blowing as we live in the 21st Century. People who remain ignorant do so by choice, generally speaking.
@@tongakhan230 I'm not sure you understand symbolism. I mean, I'm not sure you understand how symbolism works. Your reasoning as to why Christ would be a liar is hyperspecific and far too literal. Not only do you completely miss the point, you also don't understand what metaphor is.
People send them selves there we ate free moral agents and it's your choice we must leave our sins we come to Jesus in his terms not ours and you pay a price daily willingly to serve him because you love Jesus he never forced no one it's a choice and you can't keep winning everyday
Thank you so much for this true, Biblical message, Dr. Sproul! You are so right when you say many 21st century churches water down the doctrine of hell. Just a couple days ago, I saw the pastor of "The Bible Project" claim that hell is something mankind made and it's something only in our mind (like hardships or depression). Not only did it break my heart to see hear that, but it broke me when I saw several others subscribing to the same beliefs. They don't believe hell is a literal place. They think it was only speaking of Gehenna and that both believers and non-believers will be saved. So troubling!
This concept of hell being some torture chamber in the sky exists only in the minds of sadists, generally speaking. Even Jesus went to the biblical hell when he died. Everyone who dies goes to this hell. It is another word for the grave. Just a comforting thought from the bible.
Do you remember the source where "The Bible Project" pastor said that? the video or website? Was it Tim Mackie or some other guy? Thank you for your response and if you can find it. Yes, pastors / teachers like RC Sproul and John MacArthur have been a blessing to the church. I think a lot of Christians are concerned since we have few Christian leaders left who speak the truth.
@@mrtdiver I believe the following link is the video that I was referencing. you can find ppl reacting to it if you search, "The Bible Project hell" or something similar ruclips.net/video/ykH8E9wTCcQ/видео.html
@@mrtdiver : 'since we have few Christian leaders left who speak the truth. ' Doesn't such a statement show that many 'Christian leaders' are preaching lies? If so, how does one differentiate between who is lying and who is speaking the truth? Is it based on what one WANTS to believe rather than on what the bible actually teaches? Just a thought.
@@tongakhan230 "how does one differentiate between who is lying and who is speaking the truth?" - when someone says something that does align with Scripture, than it is a lie. I love the Bible and read from the original all the time, but the Holy Spirit also guides a believer in truth. So as we "walk" with Christ and read his word we can discern between error & truth. and a note: A new convert may not understand he is listening to untrue doctrine. This is because he is not well versed in Scripture. However, a mature man who lives according to God's word and knows the word will be able to see false teaching fairly quickly.
If you believe that the wages for sin is eternal suffering in a place called hell, and you also believe that Christ took your punishment upon himself. Doesn’t this mean that Christ would be required to suffer in a place called hell for as long as you were required to do so? If the punishment for the unsaved was conscious eternal suffering in a place called hell, then why does the Bible tell us that Christ’s soul was not left in hell? Psalm 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. If therefore Christ was not left in hell, then his punishment had an end. This of course, presents a big problem if you believe that the penalty for our sins is suffering without end in a place called hell. But if you understand that the wages of sin is death and not eternal conscious suffering in a place called hell, then harmony with the scriptures begins to take place. Romans 6:23 For the wages (the payment) of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Death is the payment for sins that the law of God has always required. Therefore, death is the payment that Christ had to pay on behalf of the sins of his elect. And death is the payment all of the non-elect have to pay for their own sins. Upon death, an unsaved individual ceases to exist because his soul was dead already at the moment of conception, therefore, upon the death of the body, that individual is dead forever and has ceased to exist, or as the Bible puts it, that individual has perished. This is why John 3:16 gives us the contrast of either living forever or perishing, which means that they cease to exist. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Christ indeed took upon himself the punishment required by the law of God and died for the sins of his chosen people, but unlike the non-elect which have no power over death, Christ (who is Almighty God) could satisfy the demands of His own law by dying and then raising himself from the dead. Thus, God righteous demand for the sins of the elect was satisfied and so, Christ did indeed take our punishment upon himself, but it wasn’t conscious suffering for an eternity in a place called hell, else He would still have to be there, but rather, it was death. The doctrine of death being the payment for sins and not eternal suffering, teaches us that God’s punishment for sin does indeed have an end, it ends when the unsaved individual dies. It ended when Christ died for the sins of his elect, and His resurrection provided the means of eternal life for all those whose sins were laid upon Christ. And the doctrine of limited punishment, as opposed to eternal conscious punishment, is indeed taught in the scriptures. Deuteronomy 25:1-3 If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous and condemn the wicked. 2 And it shall be, if the wicked man be worthy to be beaten, that the judge shall cause him to lie down, and to be beaten before his face, according to his fault, by a certain number. 3 Forty stripes he may give him, and NOT EXCEED: lest, if he should exceed, and beat him above these with many stripes, then thy brother should seem VILE unto thee. One thing that the Bible assures us of, is that God, who has laid down the law for mankind, has bound himself to his own law. (Psalms 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: FOR THOU HAST MAGNIFIED THY WORD ABOVE THY NAME.) This law therefore would be no exception in that God cannot command that the punishment for the wicked is not to exceed a certain number of stripes, and then turn around and Himself punish the wicked without end. This type of doctrine does not harmonize with the scriptures. But when we realize that the same laws that apply to mankind also apply to God himself, then we can see that there is harmony when we also realize that death is the penalty for sin rather than eternal conscious suffering in a place called hell. Death is the end of the punishment of the unsaved. Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 For the living know that they shall die but the dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion forever in anything that is done under the sun. Ezekiel 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, It shall die.
Sermon Notes... Mark 9:42-50 - R.C. Sproul Logia - oral tradition among the apostles Some of the sayins in the Logia are used in the Gospel of Mark Whoever Causes one of the little ones... - Christ is not talking about children - He is talking about Christians of low IQ - if you use your education, or your arrogance, or your smartness - you are in big trouble - this is an awesome burden of leaders in the church - do not burden others with your education - Example: if you believe X then you are no longer saved - if you believe in Substitutionary atonement, you are not saved... - Millstones - large, heavy, used to grind grain, no human was strong enough to turn them (unless you are Sampson) - The Sea is in Jewish poetry - a place of terror and destruction - Christ is using strong language here If your hands cause you to sin... - making another comparison - self disfigurement is a serious sin - the body is a gift of God to be enjoyed in this life - according to ancient Judaism - it is not to be maimed - whatever is precious to you, it is not worth having, as much as it is worth having the Kingdom of God - the doctrine of hell has disappeared - we need to bring it back - are we afraid of hell? We should be! - the most wicked impotent sinner constantly assures himself that he will escape God's judgment -" if God hasn't punished me yet, he never will" mentality - Christ talked more about Hell than Heaven - most of what we know comes from Christ - we would scarcely believe it if it came from someone else - Do you believe that Hell is a literal Lake of Fire? I doubt if it is (people get relieved) before you feel relieved, think about why Jesus used such a horrible metaphor? - language is metaphorical - the reality is always worse than the language - Hell is worse than what Jesus was able to describe in mortal language - "My life has been hell" - a guy who has no idea what hell is like - to be totally removed from the grace of God is TERRIFYING - the person in hell, wishes to be separated from God, because God is there, in the fullness of His wrath - Annihilationism is Cringe, Read some *insert theologian here* - Hell is eternal, and it is awful - God is a good god, and He will not allow sin to remain in this world. - If God condemned me to hell, I would have no right to complain - devastating as it may be, it is justifiable, this is why we cling to the cross. - Jesus went to the cross for me, so that I would not have to It's better to go into life maimed... - the worm doesn't die - the fire is not quenched - 3x repeated - Valley Hinnon - steep revine - used as a place to sacrifice humans to Moloch - King Josiah turned the place of human sacrifice into a garbage dump - it was always burning with garbage - the fire never went out - the worms that ate the carcasses of the animals never ran out of food supply - hell is a place where the worm never dies, because the host never dies - the resurrection of the damned is a real thing, and it is awful - these images of worm and flame are ghastly images of an awful eternity. - "There is nothing more valuable than the Kingdom of God, and nothing worse than hell - it is worthing losing an arm and a leg to achieve that precious reward" - Jesus - 100 years from now, you will be awake, conscious, and experiencing either hell or heaven.
Jesus' reference to children were not Christians of low IQ. They were humble ones. Anyone who tries to hinder a meek hearted one from becoming a follower of Christ will be in trouble. Hell is just the KJV word for Hades which means the GRAVE. Even Jesus ended up in this hell when he died (Acts 2:27). God has purposed resurrection for the dead (Acts 24:15). Unfortunately the KJV has also translated the Greek word Gehenna as Hell too. This word refers to TOTAL DESTRUCTION from which no resurrection is possible. Cutting off limbs so as not to end up in this state is not literal. It just means that Christians should be willing to make sacrifices to remain as Jesus' disciples and not end up destroyed. Just some help.
I do not want preachers to scare people to death to go to Jesus or hell but to show them the love of Jesus at the cross for them and the beauty of His presence in their lives. Preach heaven not hell.
@@user-um4ke5nb1v I do not believe in hell as an eternal place for the sinners suffering, the Bible preaches a fire death that consumes the lost to ashes. Jesus Himself said that they are burned in John 15:6. Please, take the time to read these verses: Ecclesiastes 3:20,31 ;12:7 ;Malachi 3:20, 12:7 ;Job 10:8,9 ;22:20, 30:19, 33:28,30, 34;14,15, Psalm 1:6 ,9:5, Isaiah 1:28, John 15:6, Rev. 18:21, 20:9, 2Thess. 1:8,9, and Genesis 3:19 , and there are more verses that clearly say that the lost are destroyed, made stubble , put as ashes under our feet ,clearly they return to dust or ashes. Even to the end God shows His love . No eternity for them .
@@olgaburgos7780 : Actually the word HELL is a KJV translation of the Hebrew word SHEOL and the Greek word HADES. It just refers to the GRAVE to which all who die end up in. It is a state of NONEXISTENCE. It is not a place. Even Jesus ended up in this hell when he died (Acts 2:27). That is why God purposed RESURRECTIONS for the dead (Acts 24:15), These bring the nonexistent back into EXISTENCE. Hope this helps.
@@tongakhan230 Faithfulness to all of Scripture, however, requires us to deny that Jesus’ spirit went to hell after He died. First, Jesus told the repentant thief on the cross that he would be with Christ in Paradise on the same day of their crucifixion (Luke 23:39- 43). Second, nothing in Ephesians 4:8-10 says Jesus descended into hell; Paul means only that Christ descended into the grave. Jesus’ spirit never went to hell, but on the cross He suffered the full wrath of God that is poured out in hell.
What he said about seminaries was disturbing. Why would a seminary hire unbelievers?! Don't get me wrong, I do believe our faith needs to be challenged. But from the perspective of teachers who want to equip their students to meet those challenges, not from godless people intending to destroy their faith!
what good does it do anyone to know there's a hell.....if they are not one of the Elect (according to reformed theology which RC believed); and chosen for mercy before the foundation of the world.....they can't do anything to avoid it anyway.....that's one question I've always had.
In a sense that is true. No one can avoid ending up in hell when they die. Even Jesus did (Acts 2:27). It just refers to the grave. That is why God promised resurrection for the dead (Acts 24:15).
Heaven and Hell - according to Sproul's Election Sermon - it's, pretty much, decided WHO will be WHERE, yes? So, then, saying "make sure you're there." doesn’t fit.
What is the use of great bible knowledge if there is a sea of difference between preaching and practicing word of Jesus Christ like not ready to sell the properties for the sake of poor, leave worldly things to take sufferings for the sake of Jesus Christ, not able to control the desires for lust and wealth?
It is a good thing none of them are infants or children. "A cruel person sends all infants and young children to Heaven." Anyone who says this is most ignorant.
So I got most of this. What I didn't understand is is heaven and hell a reality after death on this earth. Can anyone please help me? He used a lot of metaphor s. Is there a heaven and hell after death.
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How can one attribute the warnings of Mark 9 doctrinally to Christians since this is before the cross? Perhaps this is doctrine for those left on earth during the Tribulation.
@@JG-np1qg what doesn't make sense, that there were no Christians before the cross or that someone on earth during the Trib would be better off to cut off a hand than to sin?
Jesus wasn't asking his followers to maim themselves. He was asking them to make sacrifices in order to get God's approval. Luke 14:26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple. Here the word hate means to love less. We must be willing to make big sacrifices if we want to be Jesus' disciple. Else, as Jesus points out, being thrown into Gehenna (KJV - hell) is symbolic of TOTAL DESTRUCTION without the hope of being resurrected (John 3:16). Hope this helps.
@@tongakhan230 no Jesus was not asking His followers to maim themselves, but He was teaching the severity of what was before them and all those listening. Jesus was preparing His Jewish audience for the next great prophetic event they would face, the Great Tribulation. It is sometimes referred to as Jacob's Troubles. It will be a time spoken of by James when he said they will have to show their faith by their works. You can learn of things during this coming event in the book of The Revelation when they will have to endure to the end, not take the mark, keep the Commandments and the testimony of Jesus. Jesus is simply saying that if a body part might cause one to sin during this time, they would be better off to remove anything that might make one sin. Notice in the above I said coming because it is still future, however Jesus was preparing the Jews for it because at that time, depending on how they accepted Him on a national level after the cross, it could have happened shortly after the ascension. But they rejected Him and the 2,000 yr parenthetical Church Age was ushered in, but it is still before us and the teachings of Jesus concerning the matter will still apply. Hope this helps.
@@olegig5166 : I believe that is what I wrote. Jesus was not asking his followers to maim themselves. The Great Tribulation is a short time away. It had nothing to do with Jesus' Jewish audience. The Christians were asked to leave Jerusalem before it was destroyed. That wasn't the Greta Tribulation. The GREAT Tribulation is what we will face soon. Matthew 24:21 for then there will be great tribulation such as HAS NOT OCCURRED since the world’s beginning until now, no, NOR WILL OCCUR AGAIN. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short. This was included in the signs of the last days. The period we are living in. Covid-19 is one of the signs leading up to the Great Tribulation. Luke 21:10 Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11 There will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another food shortages and PESTLENCES; and there will be fearful sights and from heaven great signs. God is now gathering potential survivors as promised at Micah 4:1-5. Revelation 7:9,10,14 show these survivors who will form the New Earth society of righteous inhabitants. Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it. Hope this is helpful.
Seems to me if we took this literally, no one would have a body left. We'd have a noseless, mouthless, eyeless, sex organless, torso! ...then the brain keeps sinning so you'd have to ice cream scoop out the bad parts of the brain. Not many have not sinned with every part of our bodies. The whole flesh is at war with God and can never be ruled by God. Please explain! I know the precious treasure of grace. I know Christ is not advocating cutting off every part of the body that sins.
Technically you're correct in that we are not "ruled" by God it is in the "giving" of ourselves willingly that we can be servants of God. Yes, sin will happen but as soon as it does it must be given up through repentance. It is through trials and tribulations that God grows faith stronger. Jesus died to eradicate the sin within our flesh. It's only through him that we can overcome.
Jesus is not speaking of going to Heaven or Hell, and he is not speaking to the Body of Christ but to Israel, the circumcision, about how to" enter into life" in the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven, which is God's Kingdom on earth, The Millenium Reign of Christ in Israel. There are two ways for the believing Jew to getting into the Kingdom, the right way or the wrong way,.Jesus is warning them in these " scary" verses of not getting into the Kingdom in the wrong way , because then they will be thrown into Gehenna, into hellfire, which is not everlasting conscious torment like most Christain preachers woul say, but they are thrown into the refining fire / into the melting furnace/ to be purged as by fire. This is not a literal fire. It is nevertheless a severe punishment, and like all punisments of God it is not everlasting, but will end when the person has learnt the rightousness of God and brings forth the fruits in the person that was intended by God. Those Jews who who were disobedient and didn't suffer/endured to the end for the sake of Jesus during the Tribulation were to go through this refiner's fire. They would not get to reign with Christ in the Millenium. This text is of course is not speaking to Christians, the Body of Chris,t because we are not heading for the Millenium, but heavenly places ,and we are saved by grace through faith, not as through fire, and not by our works or obedience/endurance at all. And when Christ was in the flesh in the Gospels , The Body of Christ was not yet revealed to anyone in the Bible, but an entity as yet hid in God, revealed first to our apostle Paul. Israel, however, were to become a nation of priests so they could be Christ's instrument to bring salvation to all the world in the future. Their works would prove their obedience and faithfullness to their King and Lord. Our faith is not proven by our works. Our faith and salvation is based only on the works of Christ.
We have no reason to believe that as men enter the eternal state they change in their attitude towards God. Those in Hell it would seem deserve the torments of Hell as much on the millionth day as they did they first, and those in Heaven enjoy the benefits of God’s Grace through the merit of their substitute that being Jesus Christ eternally also in the same manner. He who is righteous will be righteous still (through Christ) and he who is sinful will be sinful still. (I’m not sure Rev22:11 refers to this thus did not directly quote, but it seems like it may be connected and the application seems true).
I found this from the Website of the people God is gathering during these last days. May help understand Rev 22:11. The apostle John was told that as the time of judgment nears, two types of ripening will take place. On the one hand, “he that is doing unrighteousness, let him do unrighteousness still; and let the filthy one be made filthy still.” But on the other hand, “let the righteous one do righteousness still, and let the holy one be made holy still.” (Revelation 22:10, 11) This latter development is taking place in connection with the worldwide Bible educational work conducted by Jehovah’s Witnesses. The objective of that work is to teach people what God requires of them so that they can be counted as worthy of receiving everlasting life.
@@rockycomet4587 : Am I to believe that the babel of churches, each having their own doctrinal beliefs, and who have massacred each other's sons and daughters in countless wars over the centuries ALL have the truth. But the people whom God is gathering during these last days (Micah 4:1-5), and among whom the special group Jesus APPOINTED (Matthew 24:45-47) are, teach falsehoods. Makes as much sense as a square circle. Sorry!
Hell is the KJV's word for the grave. Acts 2:27 King James Version 27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in HELL, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. CEB Acts 2:27 because you won’t abandon me to THE GRAVE, nor permit your holy one to experience decay. This prophecy was about how God will not allow Jesus to remain in hell (the grave) for long. Peter confirms this: Acts 2:32 God resurrected this Jesus, and of this we are all witnesses.
@@rlyle5804 So God won't take it from them but they can reject it from God? There seems to be so many interpretations of this doctrine. The frustrating part is that those trying to teach it don't seem to have the right answer either. They just end up saying, "oh well, if you fall away then you were never truly saved". Something doesn't add up and that answer is a cop out. (I'm still looking for the right, Biblical, answer) Can a believer lose their salvation, if so, how?
@@Jesus_is_Lord_316 If you are truly saved, no. No one can pluck his people from his hands. Also true is that his children repent, so assurance comes from drawing close to God. Scary thing is that many will think they are saved in that day and will be surprised that they are not.
How do people get fooled by this charlatan's nonsense? Hell is just the grave. Even Jesus went to hell when he died. Acts 2:27 King James Bible Because thou wilt not leave my soul in HELL, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. A Faithful Version For You will not leave My soul in the GRAVE, nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.
Up until about 500 A.D., Christian beliefs about hell were reasonable and beautiful. The prevailing view then was that hell (the lake of fire, actually) not only punished but also purified the unrighteous. It was temporary -- each person's finite punishment would fit their finite crimes (sins). (The Greek speaking early church fathers knew that _aionios,_ the Greek word that is mistranslated as "eternal" in most English Bibles, didn't mean "eternal.") Once a person's punishment and purification were complete, he or she would join other saved people on the beautiful new earth described in Revelation 21-22. Everyone would eventually make it there and be blessed, with heavenly rewards varying by person, based on the lives they led. For supporting verses & quotes, see my two replies. Christ came to seek and to save the lost (everybody) (Luke 19:10), and he never fails.
Some verses which promise, imply or strongly suggest eventual universal salvation: "As in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive ... God [will] be all in all." (1 Corinthians 15:22,28) "As one trespass [Adam's] led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness [Jesus'] leads to justification and life for all men." (Romans 5:18) "God has committed all to disobedience that he might have mercy on all ... From him and through him and to him are all things." (Romans 11:32,36) "...every knee shall bow to me [God], and every tongue shall confess to God." (Romans 14:11) " ... at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." (Philippians 2:10-11) "And I [Jesus], when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself." (John 12:32) "And every creature which is in heaven and on earth and under the earth I heard saying, 'Blessing and honor and glory and power be to Him who sits upon the throne and to the Lamb forever.'" (Revelation 5:13) "O you who hear prayer, to you shall all flesh come. When iniquities prevail against me, you atone for our transgressions." (Psalm 65:2-3) "All you have made will praise you, O Lord." (Psalm 145:10a) "I will not contend forever, nor will I always be angry; for 'the spirit would grow faint before me, and the breath of life that I made'." (Isaiah 57:16) "The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end. ... " (Lamentations 3:22) Also see John 17:2, Romans 5:19-20, 8:19-21, Ephesians 1:10, Philippians 3:21, Colossians 1:20, 1 Timothy 2:3-6, 4:10, Titus 2:11, 1 Peter 4:6, 1 John 2:2, 4:14, Revelation 15:4, 21:5,24-25, 22:2, combination of (Revelation 22:1,14-15,17a,17c), Psalm 22:27,29, Isaiah 25:6-8, 45:22-25, Lamentations 3:31, Ezekiel 16:53,55, Malachi 3:2-3 Recommended Reading: _Hope Beyond Hell_ by Gerry Beauchemin & _Heaven's Doors_ by George Sarris
Most leading early church fathers believed in eventual universal salvation: "Christ saves all men. Some he converts by penalties, others who follow Him of their own will ... that every knee may be bent to Him, of those in heaven, on earth, and under the earth" [Isa. 45:22-23, Rom. 14:11, Phil. 2:10-11, Rev. 5:13] -- *Clement of Alexandria,* _Commentary on 1 John_ "The Word will subdue to himself all rational natures, and will change them into his own perfection." [John 12:32, 1 Cor. 15:22-28, Phil. 3:21] -- *Origen,* _Contra Celsum_ 8:72 "What else does 'until the times of universal restoration' signify to us, if not the aeon to come, in which all beings must receive their perfect restoration?" [Acts 3:21] -- *Eusebius,* leading historian of the early church, _Contra Marcellum __2:4:11_ "A few drops of blood renew the whole world, and become for all men that which rennet is for milk, uniting and drawing us into one." [Col. 1:15-20] -- *Gregory Nazianzus,* _Oration 42_ "Christ captured over again the souls captured by the devil, for that He promised in saying, 'I, if I be lifted up, will draw all men unto Me.'" [John 12:32, 1 Peter 3:19-20, 4:6, Psalm 68:18, Eph. 4:8-10, and maybe Matt. 12:29] -- *Athanasius,* _Expositions on the Psalms, 68.18_ "The peace [coming] from the Lord is coextensive with all time [eternity]. For all things shall be subject to him, and all things shall acknowledge his empire; and when God shall be all in all, those who now excite discords by revolts, having been quite pacified, [all things] shall praise God in peaceful concord." [Psalm 145:10a, 1 Cor. 15:28, Rev. 5:13] -- *Basil,* _Commentary on Isaiah 9:6_ "So the Son of Man came to save that which was lost, i.e., all, for as in Adam all die, so, too, in Christ shall all be made alive." [Luke 19:10, 1 Cor. 15:22] -- *Ambrose,* _Exposition on the Gospel of Luke 15.3_ "For the wicked there are punishments not perpetual, ... but they are to be tormented for a certain brief period, according to the amount of malice in their works. They shall therefore suffer punishment for a short space, but immortal blessedness, having no end, awaits them; ... the penalties to be inflicted for their many and grave crimes are very far surpassed by the magnitude of the mercy to be showed them. The resurrection, therefore, is regarded as a blessing, not only to the good, but also to the evil." [Isa. 57:16], *Diodore,* _De Oecon_ "Some among the wise and learned … have alluded to this in an enigmatic way, by adducing that God is not only just, but also merciful, and that it becomes the One who judges with justice to have sinners suffer in a measure that is proportional to their sins and then make them worthy of blessedness." -- *Theodore,* _Liber Scholiorum, 2:63_ "'All the kings of the earth shall adore him.' Some, indeed, in the present life willingly, but all the rest after the Resurrection; for not yet do we see all things subject to him, but then every knee shall bow to him." [The "kings of the earth" are rebellious unbelievers in Rev. 6:15, 17:2,18, 18:3,9, 19:19,21 ... but check out what happens in Rev. 21:24-27!] -- *Theodoret,* _On Psalm 72:11_ "Death shall come as a visitor to the impious; it will not be perpetual; it will not annihilate them; but will prolong its visit, till the impiety which is in them shall be consumed." [Matt. 5:26] -- *Jerome,* _On Micah 5:8_ "After the complete abolition of sin, praise shall be sung to God; which praise contain (implies) our being incapable of turning to sin ... when every created being shall be harmonized into one choir ... and when, like a cymbal, the reasonable creation, and that which is now severed by sin ... shall pour forth a pleasing strain, due to mutual harmony. Then comes the praise of every spirit for ever abounding with increase unto eternity." [Psalm 150] -- *Gregory of Nyssa,* _On Psalms, Tract 1, ch. 9_ Other church fathers who believed in eventual universal salvation include *Asterius, Bardaisan, Cyril of Alexandria, Didymus the Blind, Dionysius, Ephrem the Syrian, Gennadius, Hilary, John Cassian, John Chrysostom, Marcellus, Maximus the Confessor, Maximus of Turin, Methodius, Paulinus, Proclus, Titus of Basra & Victorinus.* Sources: Thomas Allin, _Christ Triumphant,_ Annotated by Robin Parry edition, chapters 4-5, 1905 & Ilaria Ramelli, _A Larger Hope?, Volume 1: Universal Salvation from Christian Beginnings to Julian of Norwich,_ 2019
This is bizarre. God gives everlasting life to worms and then consigns them to some torture chamber in the sky which supposedly has a fire burning without oxygen. According to these teachers, only sinners end up in this hell. Thus, these worms must be sinner worms. Acts 20:29 I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness, 30 and FROM AMONG YOU YOURSELVES men will rise and SPEAK TWISTED THINGS to draw away the disciples after themselves. 2 Timothy 3:13 But wicked men and impostors will advance from bad to worse, MISLEADING and being misled.
Yes! They are sinner worms who get tossed into hell. That was said in jest. Jesus' use of the location Gehenna was to symbolize total destruction. Those who end up in hades (Hell - KJV) get a resurrection and another opportunity to qualify for life on earth (Acts 24:15). This time under God's government. Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it. Hope this helps.
24:20 I find this pious declaration exhausting when any kind of apologetic thought is applied to it. God is supposed to be just. He must measure the righteousness of everyone else to the same standard. If He confines R.C. Sproul to hell, He probably confines literally every human soul in the world to hell.
Even Jesus went to hell when he died. All who die end up in hell. It is the KJV's word for the GRAVE. Check out various translations of Revelation 20:14.
At death ALL SIN IS WIPED OUT. Romans 6:7 For the one who has died has been ACQUITTED from his sin. If live goes on after death which Satan claimed (Genesis 3:4), then God will be torturing SINLESS persons. Just a thought to reason.
Sure wish ALL of these evangelical, bible-believing, saved preachers would juxtapose THIS sermon about hell with the doctrine of election. So, then....if a person isn’t chosen - it doesn’t matter HOW much he is preached-to and "frightened."
@@autumngirl951 I'm sorry if I misread. If you're saved, then you know the Bible affirms both election and our responsibility to receive Christ. How every detail of it works, I can't say. But that's how it's presented in God's Word.
“Hell” appears in the Bible because hell-believing translators put it there, paving over the meanings of three different original Greek words (New Testament). Those words have nothing to do with a place of eternal, fiery torment. Here’s an example. One of those three Greek words was γέεννα -geena or gehenna in English. It appears twelve times in the early Greek texts, and was always translated “hell” by the KJV translators. So, what was γέεννα, really? It was the valley (just outside Jerusalem) which was used as a dump in Jesus’ time. Constant fire and maggots there were sure to destroy whatever was thrown in. But translators said nothing about that dump. Instead, they translated γέεννα as “hell.” Here is an example: ■ “And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire” (Mark 9:47) Using “hell” in that verse was grossly misleading. Jesus was not talking about eternal torment in some sort of fiery hell. Jesus was saying that in the future the unsaved would perish. They would surely be destroyed, just as trash thrown into that dump was sure to be destroyed . . . they would be figuratively 'thrown into the dump.' Translators (especially King James Version, 1611) made a real mess when they used the word “hell” in place of those three Greek words. They had inherited their hell concept, by tradition, from the Catholic church. By using “hell” they were twisting the meanings of the Greek words, making the Bible appear to support to their concept of a place of perpetual, fiery torment. Over time some some translators have recognized this error, noting the original Greek words in footnotes, or even using the original Greek words directly in the translated text . . . and not using “hell.” Young’s Literal Translation (YLT), for example, never uses “hell.” The damage caused by the translators continues to this day. Millions of reasonable people dismiss Christianity as nonsense when they are told the God of mercy will sadistically torment the unsaved forever and ever in some sort of fiery hell. ➔ Behind the scenes, the pagan doctrine of the immortal soul is partly to blame. The idea that we have an “immortal soul” - that always exists, somewhere - is a pagan Greek doctrine that has crept into mainstream institutional Christianity over the centuries. As a result, most professing Christians today believe exactly what the Greek philosopher Plato taught: that we have an immortal soul which - upon death - separates from the body and lives forever. Here’s Plato: _“Do we believe that there is such a thing as death? And is this anything but the separation of soul and body? And being dead is the attainment of this separation; when the soul exists in herself, and is parted from the body and the body is parted from the soul . . . beyond question the soul is immortal and imperishable, and our souls will truly exist in another world!”_ (Plato, in Phaedo, about 360 BC) The “immortal soul” idea is a re-packaged version of Satan’s lie: ■ “And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die” (Genesis 3:4) People who subscribe to the pagan “immortal soul” doctrine see salvation as a matter of "where we’ll spend eternity - in heaven or in hell.” *Wrong paradigm altogether!* Salvation is not about “where you’ll spend eternity.” You won’t even *_have_* an eternity unless you receive eternal life from God! Otherwise you'll perish, just as stated in John 3:16: ■ "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)
@@dstrong86bluecoffee greetings in the Almighty name of Jesus Christ saviour to those who will receive Him as saviour and not rely upon calvins distortion of the election without asking Jesus to come in and be their saviour. Only the sealed by the HolySpirit of promise can take away what you refer as worldly worry. Hallelujah for the Joy of knowing you are saved and not follow man.
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This sermon was preached by R.C. Sproul at Saint Andrew's Chapel in Sanford, Fla. Hear more from his series in the gospel of Mark: ruclips.net/p/PL30acyfm60fWpFiMnbLmGb8WD5YXXOAxX
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Is there a Spanish version on this sermon from RC Sproul?
I've made it a priority to learn what the Bible teaches about Hell. It's almost never taught. My brother and mother chose to spend eternity in Hell, to reject the Gospel several times...they were turned over to reprobate minds before they descended into Hades, the holding place of torment before the final judgement, the Great White Throne. The Lord told me that's where they went. And I can say that it haunts me almost every day. I think of the torment and and darkness they face forever as I meditate on the story in Luke about the rich man and Lazarus. I often think that they do remember the times I pleaded with them to repent and receive Jesus. My mother said, "I don't believe it " as I presented her the Gospel for the last time before she died. Satan blinds the lost so they can descend into torment with him. When I witness I talk about Hell and make no apologies. The truth will set you free.
@@rebamoon4965 too late😥
Praise God for teachers like RC Sproul. He makes these lessons SO SIMPLE.
The thought of the absence of God absolutely terrifies me!
Thanks for sharing this beautiful, biblical sermon by the late Dr. R.C. Sproul. ❤
Best modern day theology teacher . We miss you, but soon to see you R.C.
JESUS IS LORD 🙏🙏🙏
There are the kind of sermons that our generation needs.
Why would anyone want sermons that mislead people. Hell is just the grave. Everyone who dies goes to hell. Jesus did too when he died.
@@tongakhan230 Did you listen to the sermon? It does not seem like it since he clearly points to the verses about the eternality of hell. Where the worm does not die and the fire is not quenched. This has been the orthodox position of the Church for centuries and more importantly what Jesus taught and what the scriptures teach. As he said in the sermon, I don't like it but it's true.
@@vanillawarrior I'm sure that kid Tonga just came here to troll, if he listened, he couldn't help but realise that hell is a real place. R.C is a sound biblical teacher, false religions like SDAs suppress the truth in unrighteousness.
@@tongakhan230
"But you do not believe because YOU are not My sheep. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me."
@@Just_A_Wafaring_Stranger We are humans but Christsuckers want to make us sheep and goats.
The conviction I feel right now - I pray it changes my life. Please Lord save me, a sinner.
You are not a sinner, just somebody who didn't read the bible and who doesn't know how god actually defines sin.
My heart rate began to race just listening to this. My LORD and My GOD!
R. C. Sproul hit the nail on the head. Preaching on hell has been practically banished from the pulpits today. We really need more fire and brimstone messages in the 21st Century to remind us of the absolute holiness of God and to be thankful He sent us His Son to save us from His wrath.
I just told my daughter a couple weeks ago I was looking for a hellfire preacher. Preachers NOT preaching on hell are the reason everyone thinks we all go to Heaven.
@@lalaland962 John MacArthur is a great hell fire preacher and was a close friend of R.C.
@@MK_337 I love John MacArthur. I listen to all his older sermons and his new ones. I'm actually looking for one within 20 miles of my house. They're hard to find.
Just a reference to a prophecy about such preachers.
Acts 20:29 I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness, 30 and FROM AMONG YOU you yourselves men will rise and SPEAK TWISTED THINGS to draw away the disciples after themselves.
There is no hell fire. Hell is another word for the grave. Even Jesus went to this hell when he died.
@harry balls5150 Look at all the other comments here. Tonga Khan and Iary Snw have an issue with hell. It's probably a Jehovah's Witness belief. They think it's mistranslated from Gehenna.
Tonga is an island near Fiji. Polynesian.
So deep. Thank you for sharing RC Sproul 's teachings
That was a sobering yet beautiful sermon!
I know. Even politicians fool people with lies.
slandering u mean..slandering Jesus who told us to LOVE our enemies not torture them
@@TheBlueCreamThey will be tormented by their own sins and the unbearable living conditions supernaturally created by God.
I sure do love RC”s preaching. He had a real gift. Hell is real. Definitely not a place anybody wants to end up. Praise Jesus and His sacrifice for us.
The scriptures say that Jesus went to hell. It is the grave. No hell fire in outer space without oxygen.
@@tongakhan230 What a giant lolcow you are, just like the ones on the KiwiFarms!
I am so thankful I came across this learned theologian after I left the Catholic Church. I can't get enough of his teachings-so spot on!!
Thankyou for sharing. Sometimes I wonder if the catholic curse is so strong that none escape.
@@godslittleman5451 it’s tough- it’s a strong cultural tie!
What is the difference if I might ask? The RCC borrowed this hell fire teaching from pagan sources. These charlatans just parrot it.
Isn't it a case of 'from the frying pan into the fire'?
@@tongakhan230 Jesus spoke of hellfire and everlasting torment more than any prophet or apostle in the Bible. Just because you don’t believe it, doesn’t mean it’s not true. What fixed my doubt as to the legitimacy of the word, was a pretty simple principle. And it goes like this: What is the MOTIVE behind it? I always ask that question. When the RCC ruled the world with an iron hand and a ready bic lighter, they taught the horrors of hell and used it to cause fear. But since the Protestant reformation, they have backtracked on the clear teaching of hell in favor of a user friendly version of Christianity that includes lies like purgatory. What then was their motive for changing it up? I suggest that they wanted to maintain legitimacy and their place on top of the religious world. So then, we ask, “What is RC Sproul’s motive? Could it be that he believes it to be true and wants to be faithful to God whatever the cost?
Most importantly, what is the motive of the Bible as a whole? What people group is exalted above another by it? Christians are counted as sheep for the slaughter and are told to love their enemies. We are taught to share wealth and be benevolent, and after we accomplish all that is asked of us, we are told that we are unprofitable servants. 😩. The Jews fare none better. Their history and the character of the average Jewish tribe is generally a who’s who of miserable failure and indifference towards God. I argue that the Bible is true because man would not have written it. Not on his best day. It came from a different source.
@lary Snw the rich man in Luke 16 was “tormented in this flame.” He did not appear to be in a lake. I never said hell was the lake of fire.
Brilliant teacher
The only thing that matters. Praise God for this ministry!
Well that's not true
@@jesuschristiskingofkingslo2023 what is there besides Christ and His redeeming blood? The rest is surely vanity.
How is it that all these ministries conflict with each other? Just a thought to ponder.
@@tongakhan230small disagreements
@@washedinhisblood.3906 : Jesus True Disciples will be ONE just as Jesus and God are one (John 17:22).
(1 Corinthians 1:10) Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all SPEAK IN AGREEMENT and that there should be NO DIVISIONS among you, but that you may be COMPLETELY UNITED in the same mind and in the same line of thought.
We will see you again soon RC, for now rest easy.
He has truly entered that rest. 🙏🏼🕊
On a personal level, I need to re-read Edwards' sermon Sinners in the Hand of an Angry God. Friends, we hang by a single thread of a spider's silk over the fire of eternal torment. It is God's mercy that preserves us.
Thank you R.C. for this powerful, penetrating, shaking and encouraging timely message! To share this over life or death deciding warning ⚠️ from Jesus Himself, I realize the utter dependence on the Holy Spirit‘s unfailing guidance ! This „hell-subject“ requires much grace, holy boldness, courage and a humble heart if anyone should listen, really listen. But thanks be to God for then „taking the matter in His own hands“ !!!
Sadly many of pastors and church leaders fall under this category in this current culture! Almost every "church" is consumed with legalism/ moralism self righteous to the core! Another great sermon from Bro Sproul
A stunning sermon. Thank you, brother R.C.
Thank you for keeping this sermon alive for us
I have to share this teaching with each of my children and grandchildren. I could not live with my own concience if I did not try to save them, and some friends.
With respect. Share Bible truths. These video charlatans do not teach any Bible truths.
There is no torturing of persons AFTER death. The dead CEASE TO EXIST (Genesis 3:19).
That is why God purposed RESURRECTIONS for the dead (Acts 24:15).
Resurrection bring back INTO EXISTENCE those who DO NOT EXIST.
Here is the hope for the righteous.
Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
@@tongakhan230 You are SO MISTAKEN, and your opinion is totally wrong.
@@rabbit4111 : How can what I wrote be my opinion when the clear scriptures are cited and quoted. I played no part in writing the Bible.
If one cannot understand something, maybe I can help.
@@tongakhan230 You are very mistaken! Read the Bible and you will see your error! RC Sproul speaks and teaches the truth! Hell is real and the ones who choose to go there will be tormented forever!
@@barryhamilton3112 : In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth (Genesis 1:1).
Where exactly will this oxygen-less fire be burning?
If RCS teaches the truth, then God got it wrong. For God teaches us that the dead CEASE to exist. That is why it is called DEATH and not TRANSITION.
Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going.
(Psalm 146:3, 4) Do not put your trust in princes Nor in a son of man, who cannot bring salvation. 4 His spirit goes out, he returns to the ground; On that very day his thoughts perish.
There is no life continuity at death. That there is was Satan' first lie as shown at Genesis 3:4.
These fear mongers are promoting Satan's lie. That is why Psalms 146:3 tells us not to trust these humans.
Stay with what God teaches through his Word.
My will has been cut into pieces with the sword of the Spirit preached here by Dr. R.C!!!
Amen Sproul. We need to teach about hell with more care, whatever it takes to ingrain this doctrin into the minds of men. May we cling to The Lord and His many mercies. God bless you all.
The bible simply states that hell is the grave. Even Jesus went there when he died.
These macabre images lie only in the minds of sadists. Certainly not from a God of love.
Just a shared thought.
@@tongakhan230where does the bible state this?
@@user-zu2bw7ig5v : Note how Acts 2:27 is translated.
KJ21
because Thou wilt not leave my soul in HELL, neither wilt Thou suffer Thine Holy One to see corruption.
CEV
The Lord won't leave me in THE GRAVE. I am his holy one, and he won't let my body decay.
EHV
because you will not abandon my life to THE GRAVE, nor will you let your Holy One see decay.
The Greek word is 'hades'. In the Bible it just means the state of the dead. Namely NONEXISTENCE. (Genesis 3:19, Ecclesiastes 9:10).
With the apostasy, this hell has been changed into a place of torment to subdue the people to the Priests by fear.
Any JW can help understand that everyone who dies ENDS UP IN HELL Meaning the GRAVE. Jesus too ended up in hell as the prophecy at the outset shows.
Blessed sermon 🙏🏻. Everyone who heard it, May the lord bless you all. Share it among your family and friends.
It is a good thing we have men of God like this preaching truth. We need to fear the wrath of the living God becs it rly helps keep us in line we are rebellious and we need to realise we are playing with fire it's a blessing thanku so much xo
How can these lies be any truth? Even Jesus went to hell when he died. Hell is a word the KJV uses for the GRAVE.
Check out various translations of Revelation 20:14.
@@tongakhan230 Then why are you listening to lies? Perhaps deep down you know that this message is true, and that Hell is real. May the Lord open your eyes to His truth. As long as you’re alive, there is hope.
Perhaps you should respectfully ask God if Hell is real, or if it is a lie.
BEAUTIFUL SERMON THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE REMINDER EVEN TO ME WHO WORRIES ABOUT IT JUST ABOUT EVERYDAY LOVE YOU BROTHER I BELIEVE IT IS WORSE THAN LAKE OF FIRE BUT WITHOUT GOD THERE IS NO LOVE IN JESUS NAME AMEN.
Hell is so watered down, I've known people who say they know they're going, but they're unwilling to grasp what Jesus is giving them. If they knew the hell I fear, they'd be on their knees.
There is nothing to fear about the biblical hell. Even Jesus went to this hell when he died. Hell is another word for the grave. Everyone who dies ends up in this hell.
Those who get obedience through threats have nothing to do with the God of the Bible.
great; thank you, work out our salvation with trembling and fear
Fear of losing out on everlasting life. Not of being tortured in some mythical torture chamber in outer space, I believe.
@@tongakhan230 fear God.
@@felipekennedy3135 : It should be a fear of displeasing God. Not : 'If you don't do this I'll punish you' type of fear.
Psalms 111:10 The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of wisdom.
All those observing his orders show good insight.
His praise endures forever.
@@tongakhan230 friend please take your philosofies to your pastor, or to whosoever you wish for who said you should work out your salvation with trembling and fear is the WORD OF GOD, not me i am just the messenger.(PHILIPPIANS 2;12) now if you don't hear Gods Words, it's because you are not of God so i advise you to please work out your Salvation with Trembling and Fear.
@@tongakhan230 AND FEAR NOT THEM WHICH KILL THE BODY, BUT ARE NOT ABLE TO KILL THE SOUL; BUT RATHER (FEAR HIM) WHICH IS ABLE TO DESTROY BOTH SOUL AND BODY IN HELL.(matthew10;28)
Here is a good Bible story for our children from the words of Jesus!
Uses pictures even children can grasp- a fire and a worm!!!
And these must be sinner worms to end up in hell.
Plus, they must be righteous too in order to get everlasting life.
Some food for thought.
What a warning and so well taught, may we as christian wake up to the realty of the living hell just as we have an everlasting life in Heaven.
Even in regular evangelical churches, too many people are living their best lives now because their pastors don’t want to chase them off with sermons about salvation and hell. It’s so tragic. In 1983, a Christian friend gave me a John MacArthur sermon on a cassette. The topic was hell. It got my attention. I wanted to know more. Years later, when I think of people I know and love, or acquaintances, or people I pass on the street, my complete belief in a literal hell and their potential doom, certainly drives me to constant prayer for them and a need to tell them the truth.
Why would a God of love threaten someone to get his loyalty? Isn't that what Satan wants us to believe? That God is a monster?
Hell is just another word for the grave. Even Jesus went to hell when he died.
Acts 2:27 King James Bible
Because thou wilt not leave my soul in HELL, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
It's a shame that this county doesn't realize how much of a "National Treasure" R.C. Sproul was! 🙏😔🇺🇸
That is true. The more we speak about hell and the lake of fire, the more obvious it becomes just how perverted a religion Christianity is. My inner atheist fully approves this message.
We love you and even you are not with us but you speak us habbel .
It is a thought that has kept me up some nights...
I'm a Christian and it's still a very sobering thought there is literally one word you can say when you die and face God and that's Christ. There is no other reason sufficient enough that will not put you in hell.
Just a few words of comfort from the bible.
Everyone who dies ends up in hell. Even Jesus did. It is another word for the grave.
No one goes anywhere outside earth's atmosphere. Humans will always live on earth as God intended.
Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
If anyone doesn't love the Lord Jesus Christ, Let him be damn
Amen! What a beautifully explained sermon!
WOW! Very timely
I'm glad and thankful for God's word he said I AM RHE LORD THY FID I CHANGETH NOT PRAISE HOS HILY NAME FOREVER. I L9VE IT IT IS A DANGEROUS THING RO FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE LIVUNG GOD AND YOU ARE RIGHT. THEY NEVER STOP SUFFERING. FOREVER
There is no fear of going to hell for those who believe wholeheartedly in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus....He has paid the full price for all sins forever......when you believe that in your heart you are justified in the sight of God and you are already a citizen of heaven, even if you are still on earth....Paul's gospel of grace and faith is salvation without works of any kind.
I think the bible states that humans will live forever on earth (Psalms 37:29). Heaven is not a destination for humans. Even Jesus pointed that out (John 3:13).
Just a shared thought.
@@tongakhan230 hey brother that text in John is Jesus saying that nobody has been to heaven and come back to speak on the things seen in heaven. We most definitely won’t be on earth forever
@@ken.wyd_ : That is, sorry to say, a deliberate corruption of a scripture to fit an agenda.
Lazarus and others were resurrected by Jesus. Had they been to heaven and then recalled by Jesus? They never mentioned any experience after death of such.
Humans were created to live on earth, They CANNOT live away from earth's environment.
The promised resurrection of the dead under God's government will be on earth (Acts 24:15).
If Adam didn't sin and bring in death, he would have still have been with us and we wouldn't be showing age and dying. Earth wasn't some testing ground or transit stage of any kind. It was to be humans' permanent home. Satan thwarted it for a while. God's purpose will come to fruition.
Read Revelation 21:3,4 and see whether the prophecy states that humans are going to be WITH God or that God or his rulership is going to be WITH humans. Which rule will change conditions on earth for humans to live on forever. Why would anyone want to go to any heaven.
I hope this helps.
James 2:14 what does it profit my brother if someone says he has Faith but does not have Works? Can Faith save him?
Verse 17 thus also Faith by itself, if it does not have works... Is dead.
Reverse 20 but do you want to know oh foolish man, that faith without works is dead?? Was not Abraham Our Father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar?
Verse 22 do you see that faith was working together with his works? And by works, Faith was made perfect?
Verse 24 you see then that a man is justified by works and not by faith only.
@@astrialindah2773 poor poor you, I assume you are catholic....I was for 60 yrs till the holy Spirit opened my eyes in 2016...….you are stuck and not even understanding the bible...you need a good bible teacher...I can recommend one on you tube but I know you wont follow it up...no use me saying any more, you are lost like all Catholics....pray for guidance apart from that system.
Love you, RC!
A great message that should make every Calvinist tremble in horrified fear.
....in fact, a prospect that all should shudder at !
I think RC trembled with fear, by the way he was reformed. Now he is with Jesus
R.C. was a Calvinist. Why should a Calvinist tremble at this message?
@@velociray we should all work out our salvation with fear and trembling Phillipians 2: 12-13
@@kevinruggerio1796 okay, still does not answer my question why he called out Calvinists specifically. Not that I disagree with you, cause I agree. In fact, I came to be a Calvinist in working my salvation with fear and trembling.
He picked the fight, not me, and I want to know why.
Hell is destruction not eternal torment. The wicked will perish and disappear after judgement. John 3:16
No sir.
“Eternal fire” (Matthew 25:41)
“Unquenchable fire” (Matthew 3:12)
“Shame and everlasting contempt” (Daniel 12:2)
A place where “the fire is not quenched” (Mark 9:44-49)
“Everlasting destruction” (2 Thessalonians 1:9)
A place where “the smoke of torment rises forever and ever” (Revelation 14:10-11)
“A lake of burning sulfur” where the wicked are “tormented day and night forever and ever” (Revelation 20:10)
And others..
Amen
A beautiful serious teaching
I will definitely study further
Does it mean that someone fell for that stuff about hell.
How do worms get to hell. Do their souls go there when they die? How do they eat without mouths?
Hell is another word for the grave. Even Jesus went to hell when he died. All who die end up in this hell.
@@tongakhan230 nothing is impossible with the Almighty
How did the whale swallow Jonah
How did the red Sea split and dry land appeared for the Israelites
How did the axe head float
How did a donkey talk
How did Peter walk on Water
How did water come from a rock
How did
How did
How did
With God all things are possible.
What is impossible with man is POSSIBLE WITH GOD
Luke 18:27✝️
" So it will be at the end of the age. The Angeles will come forth, seperate the wicked from the just and cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.'
Matthew 13:49-50✝️
What about those who have no teeth
TEETH WILL BE PROVIDED🎤🎤🎤
@@jessyjonas4988 : Rather droll. But seriously. There are some things that it is impossible for God to do.
Titus 1:2 and is based on a hope of the everlasting life that God, who CANNOT LIE, promised long ago;
God cannot lose his immortality and change into a human and die.
Malachi 3:6 “For I am Jehovah; I DO NOT CHANGE.
Habakkuk 1:12 Are you not from everlasting, O Jehovah?
O my God, my Holy One, YOU DO NOT DIE.
Taking some unseen part of a dead person and somehow subjecting it to heat is not only unscriptural but illogical. The pain receptors and the brain are needed to feel anything. These are rotting in a grave. How is there any fire without oxygen?
Fire is a symbol of destruction. Never of torture. Only Satan would want people to believe that God is a monster and a sadist.
The thought of burning people was detestable to God.
Jeremiah 7:31 They have built the high places of To′pheth, which is in the Valley of the Son of Hin′nom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, something that I had not commanded and THAT HAD NEVER EVEN COME INTO MY HEART.’
I love Jesus ❤️❤️💙 1/4/2021 forevermore
Powerful!
I know , biblically, Moses tried to change God’s mind in not destroying the people if he could find 10 righteousness people and God was willing to do so, in other words, to change His mind , so I do think that God will change His mind in the eternal suffering of the lost sparing the pain that the saved would feel knowing that some of their dear ones are burning. for an eternity. He. Is love till the end.❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️
Why fire tho of all things that's thr worst anything but fire isn't the scary demons bugs and who knows what els plus pitch blackness enough but fire is so horrible and painful forever oh my that is just horrifying and depressing
You are ignorant of the Word of God (Christ). You had better repent of your unbelief and ask Christ to save you from your sins and from His wrath. "It is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment". (Hebrews 9:27).
If you refuse to believe in hell, you will someday find yourself there when you die, just like the unbelieving rich man in the Bible.
Amen!🙏
There has to be change. In the heart and life
You lack understanding of Scripture, the Word of God (Christ). Repentance is a change of mind (metanoia) and only God (Christ) can bring one to repentance.
Amen
The Revelation of Jesus Christ 6:2 through this vessel that is member of His body
Holy Art Archer here on earth. Thrice 💘 Father Son and Holy Ghost🔥
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AMEN!!!
How can I make myself good enough,not to be thrown into hell?
You can’t be good enough. Faith in the real and true Christ of the Bible. Read the Gospel oh John and find a faithful church.
May the sinner closest to hell be saved!
All those in hell will be given another opportunity to be saved. That means; to qualify for everlasting life on earth.
Acts 24:15 And I have hope toward God, which hope these men also look forward to, that there is going to be a resurrection of BOTH the righteous and the unrighteous.
Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
Hell is just another word for the grave. Check various translations of Revelation 20:14.
@@tongakhan230 no they will not
@@proudrosemom : 'no they will not' is in reference to what may I ask?
Stop spreading lies. You are not a child of God (Christ). I will pray for your salvation.
@@tongakhan230denying hell fundamentally denies aspects of Gods character. His eternality , righteousness and holiness. You can’t believe in the God of the bible without believing in conscious eternal punishment.
I study "Jesus and Him Crucified! " because I must reconcile with God my Father: Get that Pearl of Great Price to think about:
2 Corinthians 5:17-21
Yes! God through Jesus is reconciling humans to himself.
Soon, God's government will take over the earth and restore paradise for humans to live on forever.
Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
@harry balls5150 : The bible does dent the trinity. There is no need for another book to do so.
'No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME.' - 1 John 4:12. That means NEVER.
Unless Jesus was never seen by John and others, this rules out Jesus being God at any time or in any form.
Hope this helps.
@harry balls5150 : Jesus is the best source to ask if he was God or not. He should know.
Let us ask Jesus.
Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, MY GOD, MY GOD, why hast thou forsaken me?
John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to MY GOD, and your God.
Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of MY GOD, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of MY GOD, and the name of the city of MY GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from MY GOD: and I will write upon him my new name.
The above quotes are from the 'unadulterated' KJV.
May I ask as to who Jesus' God is? I've come across some illogical explanations of Jesus being 100% God or 100% human to explain away his statements as a human depending on which dilemma props up.
The 2nd and 3rd examples cannot be explained away in this way.
In the 2nd example, Jesus spoke AFTER being resurrected by God. He was no longer a human but a spirit being.
In the 3rd example, Jesus is BACK IN HIS HEAVENLY GLORY when he makes such a statement.
This is better than taking some words of Paul and giving it a twist to fit an agenda. Will there be an answer forthcoming? This isn't to belittle anyone. This is an aid to reason in order to ascertain the truth..
@harry balls5150 : Jesus didn't show himself in 500 different places at the same time.
1 Corinthians 15:5 and that he appeared to Ce′phas, and then to the Twelve. 6 After that he appeared to more than 500 BROTHERS AT ONE TIME, most of whom are still with us, though some have fallen asleep in death.
Being an angel once more, Jesus took on DIFFERENT human forms to be seen. Each time no one recognized him until he spoke.
KJV Mark 16:12 After that he appeared in ANOTHER FORM unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.
Jesus is the one who spoke to Paul (Saul) not God.
Acts 9:4........“Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting me?” 5 He asked: “Who are you, Lord?” He said: “I am JESUS, whom you are persecuting.
This is an aid to understanding what the scriptures actually teach. God has a people today who teach the truth. I am learning it from them.
Is there an answer to my earlier question? Who is Jesus' God? If there isn't, do not worry. Jesus' God is the same God as his disciples' God (John 20:17).
My worst fear is going to hell, i know im not good enough, I pray the savior Yashua, to save me, and keep me!
Actually, hell is the safest place to be right now with all this pandemic and other troubles happening all over the world.
Hell is a word for the Grave. Even Job wanted to be in hell when he was suffering on earth. In hell (the grave) a person remains nonexistent and thus can feel or sense nothing.
Job 14:13 NIV
“If only you would hide me in THE GRAVE and conceal me till your anger has passed! If only you would set me a time and then remember me!
WYC
Who giveth this to me, that thou defend me in HELL, and that thou hide me, till thy great vengeance pass; and that thou set to me a time, in which thou have mind on me?
@@tongakhan230 hell is a very REAL place.
@@marybeth23: It is not a place where people can go or visit. It is a state of being. It is the grave.
Even Jesus went to hell when he died. All who die end up in hell.
It is another word used by the KJV for THE GRAVE.
@@tongakhan230 If you listened to R.C.Sproul's message and don't believe in hell. You are in for a horrible awakening. I pray for you to know the salvation of Jesus Christ and then you will know the reality of Heaven when you die and not the torment of Hell. Prayers f ou r you Tonga Khan..
@@glennamcdaniel1490 : With respect. Heaven is a real place. However, humans will have no home in heaven (John 3:13). The earth is where faithful and righteous humans will live forever.
Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
Hell, however, is not a place. It is a state of nonexistence. Usually referred to as the GRAVE.
Jesus was in hell (the grave) for nearly 3 days (Acts 2:27).
These video charlatans take people up the gum tree.
Excellent sermon & yea Jesus is referring to young believers being offended but also little children because the teaching of Jesus includes the natural "first, then the "spiritual." The whole context is about letting little children come to Him so yes, He is referring to them first. Consider the terrible demented things don't to children by adults throughout the centuries & apply the judgement of eternal fire to them!!! What a frightful day that will be for the offenders of children & young believers!!!
Catholic priests and little children is a really bad combination... especially for the little children.
The reality of Hell: David said, in his Psalms, we cannot escape God in the lowest hell. Hell is not His absence, therefore, but His wrath.
Christeena Snyder Thank You, Jesus, for Your sacrifice!!!!!! He paid a hellish price to make sure we don't end up in hell!
This statement just opened my eyes to a new perspective of that scripture....thank you Jesus and thank you @christeena snyder
@lary Snw : Quite so! Why the gullible fall for these lies beats me. Jesus too went to hell when he died. It is another word for the grave. Everyone who dies ends up in this biblical hell.
Acts 2:27 King James Bible
Because thou wilt not leave my soul in HELL, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Contemporary English Version
The Lord won't leave me in THE GRAVE. I am his holy one, and he won't let my body decay.
Yes, 2 Thess. 1:9 says “away from the presence of the Lord”, but I think it’s the joyful, approving presence of God. One of the parables (vineyard owner) talks about the evil rebels who refused to worship God, the “landowner” says to, “slay them in my presence”.
@@JG-np1qg : 2 Thessalonians 1:9 These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength,
The opposite of everlasting life is everlasting death or destruction. A cessation of existence.
Amen dangerous thing you ate right God bless you
Wow I’ve misinterpreted this scripture for years even the other day referencing children! Lord Heavenly Father I repent of my IGNORANCE 😩
Praying for the 5 youtube users who have thumbed down this message.
I believe that everyone should thumb it down. What a load of nonsense. How do worms get into this hell? Do their souls go there when they die on earth.
Is everyone losing their minds. Sorry! Just a general statement.
@@tongakhan230 - God is speaking to your heart or you wouldn’t be here, friend.
@@tongakhan230 The symbol of the worm is worse than the reality.
@@maxsams4550 : These worms existed in the vicinity of Gehenna, the refuse dump which was constantly burning outside Jerusalem. Whatever missed being DESTROYED by the fire, the worms ate up. Carcasses were thrown in too. All this can be Googled. Getting led up the gum tree by charlatans is mind blowing as we live in the 21st Century. People who remain ignorant do so by choice, generally speaking.
@@tongakhan230 I'm not sure you understand symbolism. I mean, I'm not sure you understand how symbolism works. Your reasoning as to why Christ would be a liar is hyperspecific and far too literal. Not only do you completely miss the point, you also don't understand what metaphor is.
Soli deo gloria
For the glory of God alone.
People send them selves there we ate free moral agents and it's your choice we must leave our sins we come to Jesus in his terms not ours and you pay a price daily willingly to serve him because you love Jesus he never forced no one it's a choice and you can't keep winning everyday
Thank you so much for this true, Biblical message, Dr. Sproul! You are so right when you say many 21st century churches water down the doctrine of hell.
Just a couple days ago, I saw the pastor of "The Bible Project" claim that hell is something mankind made and it's something only in our mind (like hardships or depression). Not only did it break my heart to see hear that, but it broke me when I saw several others subscribing to the same beliefs.
They don't believe hell is a literal place. They think it was only speaking of Gehenna and that both believers and non-believers will be saved.
So troubling!
This concept of hell being some torture chamber in the sky exists only in the minds of sadists, generally speaking. Even Jesus went to the biblical hell when he died. Everyone who dies goes to this hell. It is another word for the grave.
Just a comforting thought from the bible.
Do you remember the source where "The Bible Project" pastor said that? the video or website? Was it Tim Mackie or some other guy? Thank you for your response and if you can find it.
Yes, pastors / teachers like RC Sproul and John MacArthur have been a blessing to the church. I think a lot of Christians are concerned since we have few Christian leaders left who speak the truth.
@@mrtdiver I believe the following link is the video that I was referencing. you can find ppl reacting to it if you search, "The Bible Project hell" or something similar ruclips.net/video/ykH8E9wTCcQ/видео.html
@@mrtdiver : 'since we have few Christian leaders left who speak the truth.
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Doesn't such a statement show that many 'Christian leaders' are preaching lies?
If so, how does one differentiate between who is lying and who is speaking the truth?
Is it based on what one WANTS to believe rather than on what the bible actually teaches?
Just a thought.
@@tongakhan230 "how does one differentiate between who is lying and who is speaking the truth?"
- when someone says something that does align with Scripture, than it is a lie. I love the Bible and read from the original all the time, but the Holy Spirit also guides a believer in truth. So as we "walk" with Christ and read his word we can discern between error & truth.
and a note: A new convert may not understand he is listening to untrue doctrine. This is because he is not well versed in Scripture. However, a mature man who lives according to God's word and knows the word will be able to see false teaching fairly quickly.
I thought Covid would wake people up to the reality of judgment and hell. It didn't. If anything, people have become worse! It all leaves me stunned.
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If you believe that the wages for sin is eternal suffering in a place called hell, and you also believe that Christ took your punishment upon himself. Doesn’t this mean that Christ would be required to suffer in a place called hell for as long as you were required to do so?
If the punishment for the unsaved was conscious eternal suffering in a place called hell, then why does the Bible tell us that Christ’s soul was not left in hell?
Psalm 16:10
For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
If therefore Christ was not left in hell, then his punishment had an end. This of course, presents a big problem if you believe that the penalty for our sins is suffering without end in a place called hell.
But if you understand that the wages of sin is death and not eternal conscious suffering in a place called hell, then harmony with the scriptures begins to take place.
Romans 6:23
For the wages (the payment) of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Death is the payment for sins that the law of God has always required. Therefore, death is the payment that Christ had to pay on behalf of the sins of his elect. And death is the payment all of the non-elect have to pay for their own sins. Upon death, an unsaved individual ceases to exist because his soul was dead already at the moment of conception, therefore, upon the death of the body, that individual is dead forever and has ceased to exist, or as the Bible puts it, that individual has perished.
This is why John 3:16 gives us the contrast of either living forever or perishing, which means that they cease to exist.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Christ indeed took upon himself the punishment required by the law of God and died for the sins of his chosen people, but unlike the non-elect which have no power over death, Christ (who is Almighty God) could satisfy the demands of His own law by dying and then raising himself from the dead. Thus, God righteous demand for the sins of the elect was satisfied and so, Christ did indeed take our punishment upon himself, but it wasn’t conscious suffering for an eternity in a place called hell, else He would still have to be there, but rather, it was death.
The doctrine of death being the payment for sins and not eternal suffering, teaches us that God’s punishment for sin does indeed have an end, it ends when the unsaved individual dies. It ended when Christ died for the sins of his elect, and His resurrection provided the means of eternal life for all those whose sins were laid upon Christ. And the doctrine of limited punishment, as opposed to eternal conscious punishment, is indeed taught in the scriptures.
Deuteronomy 25:1-3
If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous and condemn the wicked. 2 And it shall be, if the wicked man be worthy to be beaten, that the judge shall cause him to lie down, and to be beaten before his face, according to his fault, by a certain number. 3 Forty stripes he may give him, and NOT EXCEED: lest, if he should exceed, and beat him above these with many stripes, then thy brother should seem VILE unto thee.
One thing that the Bible assures us of, is that God, who has laid down the law for mankind, has bound himself to his own law. (Psalms 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: FOR THOU HAST MAGNIFIED THY WORD ABOVE THY NAME.) This law therefore would be no exception in that God cannot command that the punishment for the wicked is not to exceed a certain number of stripes, and then turn around and Himself punish the wicked without end. This type of doctrine does not harmonize with the scriptures. But when we realize that the same laws that apply to mankind also apply to God himself, then we can see that there is harmony when we also realize that death is the penalty for sin rather than eternal conscious suffering in a place called hell. Death is the end of the punishment of the unsaved.
Ecclesiastes 9:5-6
For the living know that they shall die but the dead know not anything, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion forever in anything that is done under the sun.
Ezekiel 18:4
Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, It shall die.
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Sermon Notes...
Mark 9:42-50 - R.C. Sproul
Logia - oral tradition among the apostles
Some of the sayins in the Logia are used in the Gospel of Mark
Whoever Causes one of the little ones...
- Christ is not talking about children - He is talking about Christians of low IQ
- if you use your education, or your arrogance, or your smartness - you are in big trouble - this is an awesome burden of leaders in the church - do not burden others with your education
- Example: if you believe X then you are no longer saved - if you believe in Substitutionary atonement, you are not saved...
- Millstones - large, heavy, used to grind grain, no human was strong enough to turn them (unless you are Sampson)
- The Sea is in Jewish poetry - a place of terror and destruction
- Christ is using strong language here
If your hands cause you to sin...
- making another comparison
- self disfigurement is a serious sin
- the body is a gift of God to be enjoyed in this life - according to ancient Judaism - it is not to be maimed
- whatever is precious to you, it is not worth having, as much as it is worth having the Kingdom of God
- the doctrine of hell has disappeared - we need to bring it back - are we afraid of hell? We should be!
- the most wicked impotent sinner constantly assures himself that he will escape God's judgment -" if God hasn't punished me yet, he never will" mentality
- Christ talked more about Hell than Heaven - most of what we know comes from Christ - we would scarcely believe it if it came from someone else
- Do you believe that Hell is a literal Lake of Fire? I doubt if it is (people get relieved) before you feel relieved, think about why Jesus used such a horrible metaphor?
- language is metaphorical - the reality is always worse than the language - Hell is worse than what Jesus was able to describe in mortal language
- "My life has been hell" - a guy who has no idea what hell is like
- to be totally removed from the grace of God is TERRIFYING
- the person in hell, wishes to be separated from God, because God is there, in the fullness of His wrath
- Annihilationism is Cringe, Read some *insert theologian here*
- Hell is eternal, and it is awful
- God is a good god, and He will not allow sin to remain in this world.
- If God condemned me to hell, I would have no right to complain - devastating as it may be, it is justifiable, this is why we cling to the cross.
- Jesus went to the cross for me, so that I would not have to
It's better to go into life maimed...
- the worm doesn't die - the fire is not quenched - 3x repeated
- Valley Hinnon - steep revine - used as a place to sacrifice humans to Moloch - King Josiah turned the place of human sacrifice into a garbage dump - it was always burning with garbage - the fire never went out - the worms that ate the carcasses of the animals never ran out of food supply
- hell is a place where the worm never dies, because the host never dies - the resurrection of the damned is a real thing, and it is awful
- these images of worm and flame are ghastly images of an awful eternity.
- "There is nothing more valuable than the Kingdom of God, and nothing worse than hell - it is worthing losing an arm and a leg to achieve that precious reward" - Jesus
- 100 years from now, you will be awake, conscious, and experiencing either hell or heaven.
Jesus' reference to children were not Christians of low IQ. They were humble ones. Anyone who tries to hinder a meek hearted one from becoming a follower of Christ will be in trouble.
Hell is just the KJV word for Hades which means the GRAVE.
Even Jesus ended up in this hell when he died (Acts 2:27).
God has purposed resurrection for the dead (Acts 24:15).
Unfortunately the KJV has also translated the Greek word Gehenna as Hell too.
This word refers to TOTAL DESTRUCTION from which no resurrection is possible.
Cutting off limbs so as not to end up in this state is not literal.
It just means that Christians should be willing to make sacrifices to remain as Jesus' disciples and not end up destroyed.
Just some help.
I do not want preachers to scare people to death to go to Jesus or hell but to show them the love of Jesus at the cross for them and the beauty of His presence in their lives. Preach heaven not hell.
Preach both since both are real.
@@user-um4ke5nb1v I do not believe in hell as an eternal place for the sinners suffering, the Bible preaches a fire death that consumes the lost to ashes. Jesus Himself said that they are burned in John 15:6. Please, take the time to read these verses: Ecclesiastes 3:20,31 ;12:7 ;Malachi 3:20, 12:7 ;Job 10:8,9 ;22:20, 30:19, 33:28,30, 34;14,15, Psalm 1:6 ,9:5, Isaiah 1:28, John 15:6, Rev. 18:21, 20:9, 2Thess. 1:8,9, and Genesis 3:19 , and there are more verses that clearly say that the lost are destroyed, made stubble , put as ashes under our feet ,clearly they return to dust or ashes. Even to the end God shows His love . No eternity for them .
@@olgaburgos7780 : Actually the word HELL is a KJV translation of the Hebrew word SHEOL and the Greek word HADES.
It just refers to the GRAVE to which all who die end up in.
It is a state of NONEXISTENCE. It is not a place.
Even Jesus ended up in this hell when he died (Acts 2:27).
That is why God purposed RESURRECTIONS for the dead (Acts 24:15),
These bring the nonexistent back into EXISTENCE.
Hope this helps.
@@tongakhan230 Faithfulness to all of Scripture, however, requires us to deny that Jesus’ spirit went to hell after He died. First, Jesus told the repentant thief on the cross that he would be with Christ in Paradise on the same day of their crucifixion (Luke 23:39- 43). Second, nothing in Ephesians 4:8-10 says Jesus descended into hell; Paul means only that Christ descended into the grave. Jesus’ spirit never went to hell, but on the cross He suffered the full wrath of God that is poured out in hell.
@@tongakhan230 You had better repent of your ignorance and unbelief of God's Word and stop giving your opinions of His Word.
What he said about seminaries was disturbing. Why would a seminary hire unbelievers?! Don't get me wrong, I do believe our faith needs to be challenged. But from the perspective of teachers who want to equip their students to meet those challenges, not from godless people intending to destroy their faith!
what good does it do anyone to know there's a hell.....if they are not one of the Elect (according to reformed theology which RC believed); and chosen for mercy before the foundation of the world.....they can't do anything to avoid it anyway.....that's one question I've always had.
In a sense that is true. No one can avoid ending up in hell when they die.
Even Jesus did (Acts 2:27).
It just refers to the grave.
That is why God promised resurrection for the dead (Acts 24:15).
Heaven and Hell - according to Sproul's Election Sermon - it's, pretty much, decided WHO will be WHERE, yes? So, then, saying "make sure you're there." doesn’t fit.
Why would anyone fear death if it's just annihilation/unconsciousness? The Bible teaches nothing of that sort.
What is the use of great bible knowledge if there is a sea of difference between preaching and practicing word of Jesus Christ like not ready to sell the properties for the sake of poor, leave worldly things to take sufferings for the sake of Jesus Christ, not able to control the desires for lust and wealth?
It is a good thing none of them are infants or children.
"A cruel person sends all infants and young children to Heaven." Anyone who says this is most ignorant.
Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
Life for humans will always be here on earth. Hope this helps.
Of course hell is fire. Heaven is fire. The Holy Spirit is fire
Not once does Mr. Sproul refer to Isaiah 66?
The problem starts with Platonism..
So I got most of this. What I didn't understand is is heaven and hell a reality after death on this earth. Can anyone please help me? He used a lot of metaphor s. Is there a heaven and hell after death.
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How can one attribute the warnings of Mark 9 doctrinally to Christians since this is before the cross?
Perhaps this is doctrine for those left on earth during the Tribulation.
That doesn’t make sense.
@@JG-np1qg what doesn't make sense, that there were no Christians before the cross or that someone on earth during the Trib would be better off to cut off a hand than to sin?
Jesus wasn't asking his followers to maim themselves. He was asking them to make sacrifices in order to get God's approval.
Luke 14:26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple.
Here the word hate means to love less. We must be willing to make big sacrifices if we want to be Jesus' disciple.
Else, as Jesus points out, being thrown into Gehenna (KJV - hell) is symbolic of TOTAL DESTRUCTION without the hope of being resurrected (John 3:16).
Hope this helps.
@@tongakhan230 no Jesus was not asking His followers to maim themselves, but He was teaching the severity of what was before them and all those listening. Jesus was preparing His Jewish audience for the next great prophetic event they would face, the Great Tribulation. It is sometimes referred to as Jacob's Troubles. It will be a time spoken of by James when he said they will have to show their faith by their works.
You can learn of things during this coming event in the book of The Revelation when they will have to endure to the end, not take the mark, keep the Commandments and the testimony of Jesus. Jesus is simply saying that if a body part might cause one to sin during this time, they would be better off to remove anything that might make one sin.
Notice in the above I said coming because it is still future, however Jesus was preparing the Jews for it because at that time, depending on how they accepted Him on a national level after the cross, it could have happened shortly after the ascension.
But they rejected Him and the 2,000 yr parenthetical Church Age was ushered in, but it is still before us and the teachings of Jesus concerning the matter will still apply.
Hope this helps.
@@olegig5166 : I believe that is what I wrote. Jesus was not asking his followers to maim themselves.
The Great Tribulation is a short time away. It had nothing to do with Jesus' Jewish audience. The Christians were asked to leave Jerusalem before it was destroyed. That wasn't the Greta Tribulation. The GREAT Tribulation is what we will face soon.
Matthew 24:21 for then there will be great tribulation such as HAS NOT OCCURRED since the world’s beginning until now, no, NOR WILL OCCUR AGAIN. 22 In fact, unless those days were cut short, no flesh would be saved; but on account of the chosen ones those days will be cut short.
This was included in the signs of the last days. The period we are living in.
Covid-19 is one of the signs leading up to the Great Tribulation.
Luke 21:10 Then he said to them: “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. 11 There will be great earthquakes, and in one place after another food shortages and PESTLENCES; and there will be fearful sights and from heaven great signs.
God is now gathering potential survivors as promised at Micah 4:1-5. Revelation 7:9,10,14 show these survivors who will form the New Earth society of righteous inhabitants.
Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
Hope this is helpful.
Seems to me if we took this literally, no one would have a body left. We'd have a noseless, mouthless, eyeless, sex organless, torso! ...then the brain keeps sinning so you'd have to ice cream scoop out the bad parts of the brain. Not many have not sinned with every part of our bodies. The whole flesh is at war with God and can never be ruled by God. Please explain! I know the precious treasure of grace. I know Christ is not advocating cutting off every part of the body that sins.
Technically you're correct in that we are not "ruled" by God it is in the "giving" of ourselves willingly that we can be servants of God. Yes, sin will happen but as soon as it does it must be given up through repentance. It is through trials and tribulations that God grows faith stronger. Jesus died to eradicate the sin within our flesh. It's only through him that we can overcome.
Jesus is not speaking of going to Heaven or Hell, and he is not speaking to the Body of Christ but to Israel, the circumcision, about how to" enter into life" in the Kingdom of God/Kingdom of Heaven, which is God's Kingdom on earth, The Millenium Reign of Christ in Israel. There are two ways for the believing Jew to getting into the Kingdom, the right way or the wrong way,.Jesus is warning them in these " scary" verses of not getting into the Kingdom in the wrong way , because then they will be thrown into Gehenna, into hellfire, which is not everlasting conscious torment like most Christain preachers woul say, but they are thrown into the refining fire / into the melting furnace/ to be purged as by fire. This is not a literal fire. It is nevertheless a severe punishment, and like all punisments of God it is not everlasting, but will end when the person has learnt the rightousness of God and brings forth the fruits in the person that was intended by God. Those Jews who who were disobedient and didn't suffer/endured to the end for the sake of Jesus during the Tribulation were to go through this refiner's fire. They would not get to reign with Christ in the Millenium.
This text is of course is not speaking to Christians, the Body of Chris,t because we are not heading for the Millenium, but heavenly places ,and we are saved by grace through faith, not as through fire, and not by our works or obedience/endurance at all. And when Christ was in the flesh in the Gospels , The Body of Christ was not yet revealed to anyone in the Bible, but an entity as yet hid in God, revealed first to our apostle Paul.
Israel, however, were to become a nation of priests so they could be Christ's instrument to bring salvation to all the world in the future. Their works would prove their obedience and faithfullness to their King and Lord. Our faith is not proven by our works. Our faith and salvation is based only on the works of Christ.
We have no reason to believe that as men enter the eternal state they change in their attitude towards God. Those in Hell it would seem deserve the torments of Hell as much on the millionth day as they did they first, and those in Heaven enjoy the benefits of God’s Grace through the merit of their substitute that being Jesus Christ eternally also in the same manner. He who is righteous will be righteous still (through Christ) and he who is sinful will be sinful still. (I’m not sure Rev22:11 refers to this thus did not directly quote, but it seems like it may be connected and the application seems true).
I found this from the Website of the people God is gathering during these last days. May help understand Rev 22:11.
The apostle John was told that as the time of judgment nears, two types of ripening will take place. On the one hand, “he that is doing unrighteousness, let him do unrighteousness still; and let the filthy one be made filthy still.” But on the other hand, “let the righteous one do righteousness still, and let the holy one be made holy still.” (Revelation 22:10, 11) This latter development is taking place in connection with the worldwide Bible educational work conducted by Jehovah’s Witnesses. The objective of that work is to teach people what God requires of them so that they can be counted as worthy of receiving everlasting life.
@@tongakhan230 I wouldn't trust Jehovah's Witnesses to explain the Bible too much.
@@rockycomet4587 : Am I to believe that the babel of churches, each having their own doctrinal beliefs, and who have massacred each other's sons and daughters in countless wars over the centuries ALL have the truth. But the people whom God is gathering during these last days (Micah 4:1-5), and among whom the special group Jesus APPOINTED (Matthew 24:45-47) are, teach falsehoods.
Makes as much sense as a square circle. Sorry!
Where was Sproul? Pre trib or post tribulation rapture.
I think he leaned toward preterism
Where is Jesus on this? Pre trib or post tribulation rapture.
You don't pour new wine into old wine skins...
So is it eternal or nah?
Yes, eternal.
Hell is the KJV's word for the grave.
Acts 2:27
King James Version
27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in HELL, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
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Acts 2:27 because you won’t abandon me to THE GRAVE, nor permit your holy one to experience decay.
This prophecy was about how God will not allow Jesus to remain in hell (the grave) for long.
Peter confirms this:
Acts 2:32 God resurrected this Jesus, and of this we are all witnesses.
Great sermon on hell. Then, is it possible for a Christian to lose their salvation and go to hell?
They cant lose it but they can walk away from it.
@@rlyle5804 So God won't take it from them but they can reject it from God?
There seems to be so many interpretations of this doctrine. The frustrating part is that those trying to teach it don't seem to have the right answer either. They just end up saying, "oh well, if you fall away then you were never truly saved". Something doesn't add up and that answer is a cop out.
(I'm still looking for the right, Biblical, answer)
Can a believer lose their salvation, if so, how?
@@Jesus_is_Lord_316 If you are truly saved, no. No one can pluck his people from his hands.
Also true is that his children repent, so assurance comes from drawing close to God.
Scary thing is that many will think they are saved in that day and will be surprised that they are not.
How do people get fooled by this charlatan's nonsense? Hell is just the grave. Even Jesus went to hell when he died.
Acts 2:27 King James Bible
Because thou wilt not leave my soul in HELL, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
A Faithful Version
For You will not leave My soul in the GRAVE, nor will You allow Your Holy One to see corruption.
@@tongakhan230 please study the scriptures:
1 Pet. 3:18-20
I'll eat 2,500 worms in Heaven
4,747 in Hell 654 in Limbo
Does anyone know what translation he is reading from?
New King James Geneva Study Bible - RC was the General Editor
@@rgjcalvinjohnson3705 thank you!
Wrong theology.
Hell is mistranlation
Up until about 500 A.D., Christian beliefs about hell were reasonable and beautiful. The prevailing view then was that hell (the lake of fire, actually) not only punished but also purified the unrighteous. It was temporary -- each person's finite punishment would fit their finite crimes (sins). (The Greek speaking early church fathers knew that _aionios,_ the Greek word that is mistranslated as "eternal" in most English Bibles, didn't mean "eternal.") Once a person's punishment and purification were complete, he or she would join other saved people on the beautiful new earth described in Revelation 21-22. Everyone would eventually make it there and be blessed, with heavenly rewards varying by person, based on the lives they led.
For supporting verses & quotes, see my two replies. Christ came to seek and to save the lost (everybody) (Luke 19:10), and he never fails.
Some verses which promise, imply or strongly suggest eventual universal salvation:
"As in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive ... God [will] be all in all." (1 Corinthians 15:22,28)
"As one trespass [Adam's] led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness [Jesus'] leads to justification and life for all men." (Romans 5:18)
"God has committed all to disobedience that he might have mercy on all ... From him and through him and to him are all things." (Romans 11:32,36)
"...every knee shall bow to me [God], and every tongue shall confess to God." (Romans 14:11)
" ... at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." (Philippians 2:10-11)
"And I [Jesus], when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself." (John 12:32)
"And every creature which is in heaven and on earth and under the earth I heard saying, 'Blessing and honor and glory and power be to Him who sits upon the throne and to the Lamb forever.'" (Revelation 5:13)
"O you who hear prayer, to you shall all flesh come. When iniquities prevail against me, you atone for our transgressions." (Psalm 65:2-3)
"All you have made will praise you, O Lord." (Psalm 145:10a)
"I will not contend forever, nor will I always be angry; for 'the spirit would grow faint before me, and the breath of life that I made'." (Isaiah 57:16)
"The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end. ... " (Lamentations 3:22)
Also see John 17:2, Romans 5:19-20, 8:19-21, Ephesians 1:10, Philippians 3:21, Colossians 1:20, 1 Timothy 2:3-6, 4:10, Titus 2:11, 1 Peter 4:6, 1 John 2:2, 4:14, Revelation 15:4, 21:5,24-25, 22:2, combination of (Revelation 22:1,14-15,17a,17c), Psalm 22:27,29, Isaiah 25:6-8, 45:22-25, Lamentations 3:31, Ezekiel 16:53,55, Malachi 3:2-3
Recommended Reading: _Hope Beyond Hell_ by Gerry Beauchemin & _Heaven's Doors_ by George Sarris
Most leading early church fathers believed in eventual universal salvation:
"Christ saves all men. Some he converts by penalties, others who follow Him of their own will ... that every knee may be bent to Him, of those in heaven, on earth, and under the earth" [Isa. 45:22-23, Rom. 14:11, Phil. 2:10-11, Rev. 5:13] -- *Clement of Alexandria,* _Commentary on 1 John_
"The Word will subdue to himself all rational natures, and will change them into his own perfection." [John 12:32, 1 Cor. 15:22-28, Phil. 3:21] -- *Origen,* _Contra Celsum_ 8:72
"What else does 'until the times of universal restoration' signify to us, if not the aeon to come, in which all beings must receive their perfect restoration?" [Acts 3:21] -- *Eusebius,* leading historian of the early church, _Contra Marcellum __2:4:11_
"A few drops of blood renew the whole world, and become for all men that which rennet is for milk, uniting and drawing us into one." [Col. 1:15-20] -- *Gregory Nazianzus,* _Oration 42_
"Christ captured over again the souls captured by the devil, for that He promised in saying, 'I, if I be lifted up, will draw all men unto Me.'" [John 12:32, 1 Peter 3:19-20, 4:6, Psalm 68:18, Eph. 4:8-10, and maybe Matt. 12:29] -- *Athanasius,* _Expositions on the Psalms, 68.18_
"The peace [coming] from the Lord is coextensive with all time [eternity]. For all things shall be subject to him, and all things shall acknowledge his empire; and when God shall be all in all, those who now excite discords by revolts, having been quite pacified, [all things] shall praise God in peaceful concord." [Psalm 145:10a, 1 Cor. 15:28, Rev. 5:13] -- *Basil,* _Commentary on Isaiah 9:6_
"So the Son of Man came to save that which was lost, i.e., all, for as in Adam all die, so, too, in Christ shall all be made alive." [Luke 19:10, 1 Cor. 15:22] -- *Ambrose,* _Exposition on the Gospel of Luke 15.3_
"For the wicked there are punishments not perpetual, ... but they are to be tormented for a certain brief period, according to the amount of malice in their works. They shall therefore suffer punishment for a short space, but immortal blessedness, having no end, awaits them; ... the penalties to be inflicted for their many and grave crimes are very far surpassed by the magnitude of the mercy to be showed them. The resurrection, therefore, is regarded as a blessing, not only to the good, but also to the evil." [Isa. 57:16], *Diodore,* _De Oecon_
"Some among the wise and learned … have alluded to this in an enigmatic way, by adducing that God is not only just, but also merciful, and that it becomes the One who judges with justice to have sinners suffer in a measure that is proportional to their sins and then make them worthy of blessedness." -- *Theodore,* _Liber Scholiorum, 2:63_
"'All the kings of the earth shall adore him.' Some, indeed, in the present life willingly, but all the rest after the Resurrection; for not yet do we see all things subject to him, but then every knee shall bow to him." [The "kings of the earth" are rebellious unbelievers in Rev. 6:15, 17:2,18, 18:3,9, 19:19,21 ... but check out what happens in Rev. 21:24-27!] -- *Theodoret,* _On Psalm 72:11_
"Death shall come as a visitor to the impious; it will not be perpetual; it will not annihilate them; but will prolong its visit, till the impiety which is in them shall be consumed." [Matt. 5:26] -- *Jerome,* _On Micah 5:8_
"After the complete abolition of sin, praise shall be sung to God; which praise contain (implies) our being incapable of turning to sin ... when every created being shall be harmonized into one choir ... and when, like a cymbal, the reasonable creation, and that which is now severed by sin ... shall pour forth a pleasing strain, due to mutual harmony. Then comes the praise of every spirit for ever abounding with increase unto eternity." [Psalm 150] -- *Gregory of Nyssa,* _On Psalms, Tract 1, ch. 9_
Other church fathers who believed in eventual universal salvation include *Asterius, Bardaisan, Cyril of Alexandria, Didymus the Blind, Dionysius, Ephrem the Syrian, Gennadius, Hilary, John Cassian, John Chrysostom, Marcellus, Maximus the Confessor, Maximus of Turin, Methodius, Paulinus, Proclus, Titus of Basra & Victorinus.*
Sources: Thomas Allin, _Christ Triumphant,_ Annotated by Robin Parry edition, chapters 4-5, 1905 & Ilaria Ramelli, _A Larger Hope?, Volume 1: Universal Salvation from Christian Beginnings to Julian of Norwich,_ 2019
This is bizarre. God gives everlasting life to worms and then consigns them to some torture chamber in the sky which supposedly has a fire burning without oxygen.
According to these teachers, only sinners end up in this hell. Thus, these worms must be sinner worms.
Acts 20:29 I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among you and will not treat the flock with tenderness, 30 and FROM AMONG YOU YOURSELVES men will rise and SPEAK TWISTED THINGS to draw away the disciples after themselves.
2 Timothy 3:13 But wicked men and impostors will advance from bad to worse, MISLEADING and being misled.
So there's going to be worms there?
Yes! They are sinner worms who get tossed into hell.
That was said in jest.
Jesus' use of the location Gehenna was to symbolize total destruction. Those who end up in hades (Hell - KJV) get a resurrection and another opportunity to qualify for life on earth (Acts 24:15). This time under God's government.
Psalm 37:29 The righteous will possess the earth, And they will live forever on it.
Hope this helps.
Yes there is ) the body is rottening
24:20 I find this pious declaration exhausting when any kind of apologetic thought is applied to it. God is supposed to be just. He must measure the righteousness of everyone else to the same standard. If He confines R.C. Sproul to hell, He probably confines literally every human soul in the world to hell.
Even Jesus went to hell when he died. All who die end up in hell. It is the KJV's word for the GRAVE. Check out various translations of Revelation 20:14.
@@tongakhan230 Oh struth, YOU AGAIN!
@@OZTutoh : Wasn't I agreeing with what one wrote.
Outside the profession of Catholic Teaching there is absolutely no way to save your eternal soul! Nor, is there remission of sin!
Catholic teaching is not Gods teaching, it is another gospel of another Jesus
At death ALL SIN IS WIPED OUT.
Romans 6:7 For the one who has died has been ACQUITTED from his sin.
If live goes on after death which Satan claimed (Genesis 3:4), then God will be torturing SINLESS persons.
Just a thought to reason.
And where in Holy scripture is that mentioned Joseph?
Sure wish ALL of these evangelical, bible-believing, saved preachers would juxtapose THIS sermon about hell with the doctrine of election.
So, then....if a person isn’t chosen - it doesn’t matter HOW much he is preached-to and "frightened."
The Bible affirms both His election and people's responsibility to repent. Please do so, before it's too late for you.
@Yesica1993 hmm...who says I'm not saved??? Bold assumption on your part and you still did NOT answer my query. Please reread. Thanx for your reply!
@@autumngirl951 I'm sorry if I misread. If you're saved, then you know the Bible affirms both election and our responsibility to receive Christ. How every detail of it works, I can't say. But that's how it's presented in God's Word.
“Hell” appears in the Bible because hell-believing translators put it there, paving over the meanings of three different
original Greek words (New Testament). Those words have nothing to do with a place of eternal, fiery torment.
Here’s an example. One of those three Greek words was γέεννα -geena or gehenna in English. It appears twelve times
in the early Greek texts, and was always translated “hell” by the KJV translators.
So, what was γέεννα, really? It was the valley (just outside Jerusalem) which was used as a dump in Jesus’ time.
Constant fire and maggots there were sure to destroy whatever was thrown in. But translators said nothing about that
dump. Instead, they translated γέεννα as “hell.” Here is an example:
■ “And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than
having two eyes to be cast into hell fire”
(Mark 9:47)
Using “hell” in that verse was grossly misleading. Jesus was not talking about eternal torment in some sort of fiery hell.
Jesus was saying that in the future the unsaved would perish. They would surely be destroyed, just as trash thrown into
that dump was sure to be destroyed . . . they would be figuratively 'thrown into the dump.'
Translators (especially King James Version, 1611) made a real mess when they used the word “hell” in place of those
three Greek words. They had inherited their hell concept, by tradition, from the Catholic church. By using “hell” they
were twisting the meanings of the Greek words, making the Bible appear to support to their concept of a place of
perpetual, fiery torment.
Over time some some translators have recognized this error, noting the original Greek words in footnotes, or even using
the original Greek words directly in the translated text . . . and not using “hell.” Young’s Literal Translation (YLT), for
example, never uses “hell.”
The damage caused by the translators continues to this day. Millions of reasonable people dismiss Christianity as
nonsense when they are told the God of mercy will sadistically torment the unsaved forever and ever in some sort of
fiery hell.
➔ Behind the scenes, the pagan doctrine of the immortal soul is partly to blame.
The idea that we have an “immortal soul” - that always exists, somewhere - is a pagan Greek doctrine that has crept
into mainstream institutional Christianity over the centuries. As a result, most professing Christians today believe
exactly what the Greek philosopher Plato taught: that we have an immortal soul which - upon death - separates from
the body and lives forever. Here’s Plato:
_“Do we believe that there is such a thing as death? And is this anything but the separation of soul and body? And
being dead is the attainment of this separation; when the soul exists in herself, and is parted from the body and the
body is parted from the soul . . . beyond question the soul is immortal and imperishable, and our souls will truly exist
in another world!”_
(Plato, in Phaedo, about 360 BC)
The “immortal soul” idea is a re-packaged version of Satan’s lie:
■ “And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die” (Genesis 3:4)
People who subscribe to the pagan “immortal soul” doctrine see salvation as a matter of "where we’ll spend eternity
- in heaven or in hell.”
*Wrong paradigm altogether!*
Salvation is not about “where you’ll spend eternity.” You won’t even *_have_* an eternity unless you receive eternal
life from God! Otherwise you'll perish, just as stated in John 3:16:
■ "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish,
but have everlasting life." (John 3:16)
Mark speaking to the jjjews. Kingdom amo g them, they rejected. Paul apostle to the gentiles
Btw
Wonder where you are now ?
Don't be flippant about this man of God please.
You should be worried for yourself ...
@@dstrong86bluecoffee greetings in the Almighty name of Jesus Christ saviour to those who will receive Him as saviour and not rely upon calvins distortion of the election without asking Jesus to come in and be their saviour.
Only the sealed by the HolySpirit of promise can take away what you refer as worldly worry.
Hallelujah for the Joy of knowing you are saved and not follow man.