2022년에 이걸 다시 보는데 왜 끝을 아는데도 내가 다 떨리고 긴장되는거니... 정말 WIN은 너무 잘 만든 드라마 같음. 다시 봐도 또 설레고 감동이고, 볼 때마다 또 새롭고.. 결말을 알고 다시 봐도 또 떨리고... 동생팀 생각하며 우는 승윤이 보니까 또 울컥..ㅠㅠ 정말 마음도 다 하나같이 너무 착한 멤버들.
BI's rapping in Climax is breathtaking, the way he had the pause is definitely a nice surprise. This guy is an epitome of GD, talented and darn good looking. His smile is as sweet as melon just like GD smile
@@zyerahh cuz GD saw what he was when he is like on Hanbin age ..but if you will look at their personality and the way they make music ,its really diff. .For me Hanbin is Hanbin and GD is GD ..
In retrospect I am so glad that YG made the decision to debut both groups - they both have such different flavors to their performances that I feel comparing them to each other, and having them compete against each other, was like comparing apples and oranges ~ Team B (now iKON) fits in line with what YG Ent. is best known for (their hip-hop groups) while Team A (Winner) has a more classic, R&B mixed with rock vibe. They are both amazing at their styles, but their styles are so different it's impossible to say one group is better than the other ~ they both are the best at their own styles, their own flavor, and both groups deserved the chance to shine
Agree! Team B is an extension of the old YG style (Epik High, BB, 2NE1) while Team A represents new music like Akmu and Lee Hi. Both are great in their own ways
actually it really worked for the best that ikon lost on win. if they won here, team a wouldn't have been winner and would have probably disbanded instead because they're quite old. if team b won here, then they won't be the ikon we know today, along with chanwoo.
I really don't understand how they are able to dance, sing, and compose songs creatively with such little sleep! Let alone keep in shape. It's mind boggling to me how they can do this for 10 weeks and have such great results. I barely survived Finals Week, pulling near all-nighters for two weeks. And that was just sitting by a desk studying and writing.
Basically, they are used to this kind of environment as trainees because they have monthly evaluations. It just more extreme here during the competition because it was only for 3 mos.and extreme cases call for extreme measures that sometimes the trainees / idols get an IV drip just to "juice" them up and keep them going.
Yeah you're right! If I will compose a song it will took me more than three weeks! Ghad its so hard! Also studying is hard! How can the do those things?!
if you're going to compared it with the finals week then there are so called honored students or in short intelligent, students who basically excel in academics. and for both team a & b they were trained in the same manner they are used to it and they have monthly evaluation its there survival its a way or a test if they could survived after debut not just gaining the number 1 spot then disappered.
Can we all just take a second to admire how much of a genius Seunghoon is? When it comes to dancing, there are several people in Team B that have dance as their specialty, and they would occasionally use some choreography from other groups (not hating on Team B, I actually really like them). On the other hand, Seunghoon is the only real dancer in Team A, and he had to come up with the choreography all by himself. Seunghoon is just phenomenal and I hope he gains much popularity when WINNER debuts. :D
yes yeeess i really admired their dance the first time i saw it i was like "damn o_o" with my mouth open because that's art D: you could FEEL the dance i can't express it better, but you can tell the dance is not just steps here and there that match with the tune, no, their dance tells a story and conveys a feeling and that was awesome. hands down.
Team A 1 Just another boy 준비 15:20 2 Just another boy 20:06 3 Don't stop the music 준비 44:06 4 Don't stop the music 47:16 Team B 1 Just another boy 준비 26:43 2 Just another boy 30:59 3 세상을 흔들어&Turn up the music 준비 50:46 4 세상을 흔들어&Turn up the music 53:53
If I watch this four years ago, I'll probably say 'Team B is going to be big in the future if they're going to debut. They're young and they're stage presence is outstanding. They dance great and since they're young, they can still hone their voices.' But now that I watched this on 2018, I say 'Team B is now iKON and their doing great. And babies, congrats for the successful comeback. Congratulations, too, for surpassing 100million views on your Love Scenario's mv.' Saranghae 😘
Team A definitely wasnt given enough credit for their dance. The choreography was beautiful. It was a culmination of all their heartfelt emotions, passion, and conveys their story; the struggle to achieve their dream. It may not have been as in ur face exciting and loud as Team B's but it was just as powerful if not more.
I 100% agree. I actually got a bit teary-eyed at team A's dance which I did not expect lol. Definitely felt closer to dance as a form of expression than team B's... I felt a bit like team A and team B switched roles. Team B's dance was cool, but I felt like they wanted to look cool (like how Team A used to dance) and some of it was stuff I have seen the teams do before in this competition. In this round, team A's dance won for me, just because it made me feel something and it felt sincere and authentic. And that made me not want to miss a second.
Team A's dance made me so emotional. I've never seen a dance like that from another kpop group, wow really beautiful. What's this type of dance called? ps. Seunghoon is so talented. I'm so happy that the Team A boys took the risk and chose this dance instead of going for the " typical boyband dance moves".
Little yedam was so cute back then! Hha see him now he has already debuted as a main vocalist of treasure weeks ago and also had this first solo 'wayo' months back!
Eventhough I stan team B, but after their debut, I'm so thankful that they don't win this survival show. 'IKON' suit them better, and iKON is not iKON without uri maknae chanwoo.
Team A aka winner performances are amazing especially the dancing, it was emotional and different plus everyone shined i'm glad they won they honestly deserved it.
위너....완전체무대 넘 보고싶어ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ 진짜 데뷔까지 엄청고생했고 우리 군백기는 그동안힘들게 달려와서 잠시 쉬는..조금 긴 휴가(?)라고생각하고 우리 빨리빨리이겨내고 제2막에서 만나요ㅠㅠㅜㅠ 하...넘 멋져 진짜...위너 입덕하길잘한거같아..진짜 한가지 단점이있다면 못빠져나오는거랄까..ㅠㅠㅠㅠ 아 근데 와지 넘 무섭다.. 우리 두 모지리씨를 멋지리로 만들어내는기적...☆
Rewatching this after iKON aka Team B + Chanwoo winning Song of The Year in 2018 MMA n BI got Songwriter Award... As a team B fans since WIN Era, I'm just so proud of their improvement n will always do... iKONIC X iKON FOREVER
I can't believe how underrated Team A's dance was. Yes, Team B's dance was VERY impressive. But the whole hardcore badass hip hop choreographies have been done way too many times. Team A's dance was very unique. It had a different style. It combined both jazz and breakdancing, and it had so much feeling behind it. The boy's movements and facial expressions said more than a thousand words. The choreo was truly a masterpiece. Mad props to Seunghoon.
RANT TOO. Just voicing my opinion so if you're against me, please remember that everyone has the right to speak their mind. I have to agree. Winner was VERY underrated and even after they won, I still think they deserve more than that. This show made me feel really angry. Everyone (2NE1 especially) seemed to be soooo biased toward Team B that I feel mostly pity for Team A. Dara's comment about Team A's dance made me angry. Her comment was too general, and not intended to praise the group. When in my opinion, their dance choreography was a lot better than Team B's. There's a story behind the dance and the feelings they portrayed were heartfelt. I've been a fan of Seunghoon since Kpop Star 1 so I know very well how great he is at making choreography and dancing. And I'm not gonna lie, I enjoyed watching Team B's performance more than Team A sometimes. They were awesome and fun (I loved their previous performances), but in terms of grouping, Winner was a more suitable group to debut. I just like seeing them more. They looked 'in place'. Each and every one of the members of Winner took a spot in my heart, and I think that's why Winner won the Viewer's votes. Call me an idiot, but I watched till the end of WIN and I still can't get the names of the members of Team B right, except for BI, Bobby and Jinhwan. Those three were the main faces of Team B anyway, while the rest didn't get that much spotlight. Donghyuk did get some recognition because of his abs and his BBQ party, but the rest? Not so much. It hasn't been long since Winner debuted and now YG is planning on debuting another boyband by hosting another survival show?! This made me feel AS IF yg has been planning on debuting BI, Bobby and Jinhwan (or Team B) in the first place (before WIN), but he didn't know what to do to Team A, so he made WIN, in order to eliminate them. Turns out they won, and YG has to do what he promised. Now that he fullfilled his promise of debuting them, he went ahead and made another boyband. This is just what I feel YG was doing, not that it might be true. But still. What the actual fuck.
***** I so totally agree with you girls... yg said he wanted winner to be different from bigbang. well surprise surprise they ARE different. I think so too that yg wants b.I. and friends to debut badly that's why he's making them debut right next year! while it took him time to figure out what to do with winner. well news is when ikon debuts, they will not be so different from bigbang. they will sound the same. and hey, the three main guys are what, good in rap and dancing.but that's it. they need good vocals too. I know jin hwan is a vocalist but in my opinion he's not that good. what makes winner tick is that they all have their own forte. so each of the members stand out. and their music can be wide ranged too. so their listeners are not only the young people.whereas ikon being a hiphop group is SO all over the place.
***** Would you have preferred that he disbanded iKon? I mean they are 7 now and 3 of the members had to "fight" for their positions considering it was heavily viewer based. So what if they're gaining more recognition and a bigger fanbase? Don't you think WINNER has more of a shot at expanding their fanbase considering they've debuted? I don't understand how WINNER is mistreated. Honestly, yeah YG prefers iKon because they are more his style, but he hasn't mistreated WINNER in any way. I can guarantee that iKon would have rather won WIN and debuted rather than getting another survival show a year later to try to make their debut. Besides, the deal was "loser disbands or gets reorganized" which they did with the new member, it was the fans choice to keep ot6 not his. YG would have debuted WINNER exactly at this time if they had lost considering the profits and fans. Do you really believe that he would have had Team B compete with Team A considering how much of an advantage Team A had with fans if he only wanted Team B to debut. This was all done for hype and to determine the order of debut. There's nothing wrong with wanting more for your artist, but what more can be given to them in their first year of debut when they've already had a reality show and performances with Big Bang?
I just found out that an international artist Jamie Cullum shows interest on winner during the performance by team A "don't stop the music"....woahhhh that only proves that winner is a group full of talent. I'm happy to be an inner circle.
Team A's dance.. just wow~ Coming here again and rewatching this. I got goosebumps. No matter how often I replay I want to see it again and again, I'll never get tired of it. Seunghoon is incredible, he's a true artist
i watched this again because i really miss WINNER and im watching all again weekly idol, nico nico, Japan tour, WINNERTV, Vapp, Mnet backstage in less words ALL like 10000000 times. btw I really respect and love Taeyang he is soo good with our boys like a father after GD was my bias but now my eyes are in the sweet Tae. and I love how BOM always shows her love for Namtae, miss her. yes i like them bcs they were the kindest with WINNER seungri and Tabi too.
Justice to team a's dance hahaha but srsly, that choreo was too great, you can write a novel about that dance, all the moves are relevant,even that part when hoon touched the floor, still got me some feels. Maybe not everyone would appreciate the dance, but i really do, so much,its like a meaningful song, that i'll forever treasure instead of those catchy song that got me at first but then forgets in a week or two.damn im just so into the dance,i wonder if anyone in kpop can pull off this dance aside from winner, this is just pure genius on so many different levels.
waddup Yeach, you right. Team A's dance almost have more story than just dance and show it. From 1st battle with BB and 2NE1 judge, I start recognize it how their dance have a great tempo and get into each beat from the song. Maybe not perfect at dancer level but they are always have another new idea to put in their dance, include how imagine story from the song transform to every moves as dance. Its just amaze me and I still remember this performance and their 2nd battle dance with school story. While team B so perfect on dance moves and their high energy, I love it. I'm just looks like silent and stunned with their performance but time after time, totally I can move on another and not remember what exactly they did before. I just know and remember that team B are great dancer and always have fun peformance, love to see. While at team A's dance, till now I can make memory about their dance that combine with the song, my mind just like rewind all that memory for their performance before.
Muznah 'Ena' yess:)) They dance to express, to tell story, to let people relate to them. I just love it how every move is so on point and each member is relevant. They may not be the best dancers for me but damn i dont think i can forget this whole performance for the rest of my life XD I wish more people could see how great they are
waddup ive been a fan of seunghoon since kpop star. his dance style is more towards lyrical and like what jyp used to say to him, he is an artist. i always always come back to this performance of them especially when im having a meltdown. the first time when this episode aired, i almost shed tears to this performance especially once the song started to build up. ugh! just i miss them actually. haha.
+Jas A Me too! It give me chills everytime I watch this dance. I'm not satisfied with Dara's comments though. It's like staying safe. She didn't mention about the dance and the meaning behind it.
"For me, stage is home,music is rice,microphone is spoon and audience is the vitamin" - > B.I(leader of team B), date: 2010.01.04 at that time he is just 14. woow what a passion...
49:08 yg was smiling but as soon as he realized that a camera is covering him he hide his smile SO it isn't like he doesn't care for his artists He cares about the most the thing is he never shows his emotion to the people
SEUNGRI HAS SPOKEN!! ahaha but seriously though Team A's dance did have me tearing up by the time they finished, and Team B's dance did actually take my breath away. I forgot I wasn't breathing until they finished. ugh both teams are so good i can't even choose a favorite anymore.
36:13 yunhyeong's sister.. Btw TEAM A DESERVES TO BE WINNER.. BECAUSE DEBUTING THEM IN 2014 IS A GOOD TIMING WHILE TEAM B DESERVES TO LOSE BECAUSE DEBUTING THEM IN 2015 IS CORRECT TIMING BECAUSE iKON is A very HOT rookie these days.. I love them both!
I'm so impressed of how Team A improved. Instead of trying to beat Team B, they finally created their own image that Team B cannot surpass. Team A already looks like an idol group now. I hope YG changes his mind about disbanding the losing team. Both groups deserve to debut; they worked so hard to win this brutal competition. I don't want all their efforts and hard work to go to waste.
Agreed. I'm glad they have. Honestly, I didn't enjoy their performances much at the start of this show, but now I really enjoy them. What Taeyang and Chanhyuk were saying about not forgetting why you're doing music - because you enjoy/love it, I'm glad Team A remembered this and brought themselves back. 💛
Team A's dance was beautiful, full of artistry and creativity! I love the parts with Seunghoon dancing with Jinwoo, then with Seungyoon. With Jinwoo, they're doing the same moves, but in different directions, kind of like Team A and Team B. With Seungyoon, it's like they have to step on each other to win, that any help can't be fully accepted because of the competition. Really wonderful storytelling!
since 5 years ago I've been interested in team B, the six of them have stolen my attention. until this moment I'm proud to be one of my favorite fandom "iKONIC" 😍😍😍 but I also love them eleven since they were trainees. WINKON fighting !!!
I can see how much Taeyang supported Team A. Whenever they sing/dance he seemed proud of them and happy bur when Team B did there was no expression in his face. ;)
Love scenario brought me here and It pissing me off to see how everyone hate iKon because they are really have fun on this show so people called it impolite. Okay team A did really good and work hard but team B is also amazing and work hard too so stop saying yg are biased towards team B. Even if yg 'maybe' biased team B, that doesn't mean it's justify to hate team B.
Am I the ONLY one who found out about iKON and WINNER through this like 2 years after they'd both debuted... :'D Honestly I'd never listened to ANYTHING from either group but after seeing this, I feel like I don't even need to get to know them because I already do and I'm glad they'd both debuted ~
Literally me... I didn't even know a kpop group called winner existed until last week ahah. And I've been into kpop for nearly a year now. But I think I totally stan them after this 😄
Katie Pop21 Better late than never, right? 😊😊 3 years had past and I'm still here rewatching WIN for the nth time wishing WINNER can comeback sooner. 😭😭
Can you believe it? Bang Yedam was in Win for a special performance and its 2019 he was put through the same Hell as Winner and iKon 🗿 And I'm actually here in 2019 saying to Winner and iKon that they're doing so great after this struggle. So much love goes to them. And Seungri being the loving Sunbae that he is, can someone just feel the love from him too. Oh my goodness.
Does anyone notice Tae Yang's proud looking after Team A's first 2 performances? He sees the changes in them as he directly engages in their battle and smiles proud. I just love that moment so much!
솔직히 이 프로그램 자체가 위너 성장 드라마 같음 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 첨엔 진짜 오합지졸 뭔가 팀으로써 안 맞는 듯했는데, 점점 친해지는 모습보이다가 스마일 어게인에서 포텐 터지고 완전 끈끈해진 느낌. 뭔가 사이는 좋지만 이상하게 못 어울리는 애들 모아놓고 걔네들 친해지는거 바라보는 청춘 만화 같음 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Loved Team A dance part,that wasn't a dance that was art,kudos to Lee SeungHoon,he sure is a genius and and artist,i won't be surprised if later on he might coreograf musicals
When I watch this I have no doubts why Winner won They have endless charms and are incredibly talented. The dance was extremely touching, Seunghoon is a genius! Seriously Winner is so talented I can't even believe it. They produce and compose, they choreograph like what can't they do???? It's the first time I'm paying attention to another group besides Big Bang bc they put the bar extremely high but Winner has reach the bar!!! YG hurry up and debut them bc I'm ready to spend all my money on them!!!! Winner's popularity is no joke, for the Fanta event they had 1,500 fans showed up. Remember guys, they are still a PRE DEBUT GROUP Winner has such a bright future ahead of them I honestly can't wait to witness it!!! WINNER FIGHTING !!!!!
me tooooo!! no hard feelings for ikon, but i love Winner better. each team has their own charms and talents. it's not about who's better than who, it's about how their songs capture our hearts. it doesn't matter which team you prefer because both are talented!
I can't bored of team A dancing even after 9 months I keep wanting it . Their dancing is just perfection . And seunghoon really perfect cheorgrapher . I love this team cuz they can put their emotions in everything they do singing or dancing really deserve to be the " winner "
Jamie Cullum (the one who sang team A's dance song) tweeted team A/Winner's performance...that's why I came to watch it and it amazes me to see such a unique dance from a kpop group, I was expecting the typical energetic swag dance most kpop group dance but these guys surprised me, it was indeed refreshing from what I use to see from kpop groups. plus their song, go up sounded really well composed and professional. I'm greatly impressed
2022년에 이걸 다시 보는데 왜 끝을 아는데도 내가 다 떨리고 긴장되는거니... 정말 WIN은 너무 잘 만든 드라마 같음. 다시 봐도 또 설레고 감동이고, 볼 때마다 또 새롭고.. 결말을 알고 다시 봐도 또 떨리고... 동생팀 생각하며 우는 승윤이 보니까 또 울컥..ㅠㅠ 정말 마음도 다 하나같이 너무 착한 멤버들.
정말정말… 볼때마다 너무 대단하다는 생각만 든다
난 이걸 왜 아직도 보러오는가
ㅂ. ㅅ이라서
재밋었어~~
할거없어서
시험기간 아이코닉의 최고의 뻘짓. 믹매도 또 볼라구요.. 이야 눈물난다...
이만큼의 긴장감과 피터지는 노력만으로 존나 재밌는 서바이벌이 없으니까…
진짜 A팀 엄청 늘었다고해야하나 팀워크가 늘었다고해야하나 암튼 진짜 좋아진거같다ㅋㅋㅋ 처음 월말평가때는 뭔가 다들 긴장해서 그런느낌이었는데 저번무대도그렇고 이번무대도 정말 벅차고 좋은느낌
와 다시 보니까 진짜 애기때였구나... 애들이 다 너무 어려.... 얼마나 심적부담이 컸을지ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
진짜 매번 느끼는건데 위너 이번 댄스가 느낌있고 너무 좋은듯
A팀댄스 대박..진짜 춤인데 뭔가 울컥하고 와..위너 이렇게 춤 잘 추는지 몰랐음
위너 애들이 어떻게 데뷔한지 몰라서 그 영상 찾아 들어와서 보고 있는데 예상치 못한 만큼 좋았던것 같다
BI's rapping in Climax is breathtaking, the way he had the pause is definitely a nice surprise. This guy is an epitome of GD, talented and darn good looking. His smile is as sweet as melon just like GD smile
Yeah and still listening to it in 2015. He's my biased after all. fighting IKONICS.
Can you please stop comparing GD to B.I ?? ..they are way different ..
@@JBieberGDragon gd himself said that b.i really look like him, you can see at Win eps 1
@@zyerahh cuz GD saw what he was when he is like on Hanbin age ..but if you will look at their personality and the way they make music ,its really diff. .For me Hanbin is Hanbin and GD is GD ..
True...its still makes me cry no matter how many times i watch
CL's "bobby annyeong" . i'm living for thIS
CL said "priorities"
Thumbs up to those who are re-watching this!!!
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+Ellalala Salibay n Im still re-watching this.. n still crying TT
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In retrospect I am so glad that YG made the decision to debut both groups - they both have such different flavors to their performances that I feel comparing them to each other, and having them compete against each other, was like comparing apples and oranges ~ Team B (now iKON) fits in line with what YG Ent. is best known for (their hip-hop groups) while Team A (Winner) has a more classic, R&B mixed with rock vibe. They are both amazing at their styles, but their styles are so different it's impossible to say one group is better than the other ~ they both are the best at their own styles, their own flavor, and both groups deserved the chance to shine
Thanks for your comment that's exactly my thoughts! I just hope people should stop with the fan wars....
Agree! Team B is an extension of the old YG style (Epik High, BB, 2NE1) while Team A represents new music like Akmu and Lee Hi. Both are great in their own ways
actually it really worked for the best that ikon lost on win. if they won here, team a wouldn't have been winner and would have probably disbanded instead because they're quite old. if team b won here, then they won't be the ikon we know today, along with chanwoo.
100%
A팀의 Don't stop the music 무대는 고등학교때 봤는데도 잊혀지지가 않음. 아직도 생각나고 가슴아픈 무대...단순히 무대자체가 아니라 그 무대가 갖는 의미를 알기때문에 더더욱 가슴속 깊게 사무치는 느낌이랄까
와.. 위너 춤 대박이다...ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅜㅠㅠㅠ 윈 서바이벌프로 춤들 중에 제일 멋있어ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅜ♡♡♡♡ 강승윤♡♡♡♡♡ㅠㅠㅜ
A팀 춤 컨셉 ㄹㅇ 역대급이다
Team B: "We've all lacked relationships" "We're basically really lonely"
I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE
Hahahhahahahahahaha me too...
전혀 관심없던 때였는데도 don't stop the music 곡과 안무와 이야기가 너무 좋아서 때때로 찾아봤다. 그리고 몇 년이 지난 지금 위너 공연을 빠짐없이 찾아가는 정도가 됐고, 결국 저 무대를 직접 보게 됐다. 기분 묘하더라. 잘 컸다.
I really don't understand how they are able to dance, sing, and compose songs creatively with such little sleep! Let alone keep in shape. It's mind boggling to me how they can do this for 10 weeks and have such great results. I barely survived Finals Week, pulling near all-nighters for two weeks. And that was just sitting by a desk studying and writing.
everyone split their work XD...
that's why training hard is a priority before debuting.
Basically, they are used to this kind of environment as trainees because they have monthly evaluations. It just more extreme here during the competition because it was only for 3 mos.and extreme cases call for extreme measures that sometimes the trainees / idols get an IV drip just to "juice" them up and keep them going.
Yeah you're right! If I will compose a song it will took me more than three weeks! Ghad its so hard! Also studying is hard! How can the do those things?!
if you're going to compared it with the finals week then there are so called honored students or in short intelligent, students who basically excel in academics. and for both team a & b they were trained in the same manner they are used to it and they have monthly evaluation its there survival its a way or a test if they could survived after debut not just gaining the number 1 spot then disappered.
this is random but..minho's teeth are goals, like seriously how are they so perfect!?
i liked his teeth too
+Asma Adam I KNOW RIGHT LIKE WOW!!
YES!!!! Finally someone that gets my weird thing for looking at people's teeth 😂❤️
haha i know they are so white and even! he must've gone to a good dentist.
Asma Adam Hahahhah so random XD But yeahh, i hadnt noticed so far... Thanks for the data XD
since I don't see the comment about how Seungri cared about both groups I will...He is such a great and caring man ♡
yeees he was soo cute, though i didn't expect it from him. Seungri is 😍😍
Woah! I am happy someone appreciated my baby 😍
Holicxxx He is. One of the many reasons why I love him (and BIGBANG)
He probably might be one of the reasons why Ikon was given another chance. Thank you are dearest maknae!!
he basically did what team a and b wanted to do. and he did it on the spot where everyone was looking lol. Seungri has the biggest balls in kpop
김지원 김한빈 안무 강좌할 때 개귀여워ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ 저러니까 딱 저 나이대 고딩들 같고 좋다ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
Can we all just take a second to admire how much of a genius Seunghoon is? When it comes to dancing, there are several people in Team B that have dance as their specialty, and they would occasionally use some choreography from other groups (not hating on Team B, I actually really like them). On the other hand, Seunghoon is the only real dancer in Team A, and he had to come up with the choreography all by himself. Seunghoon is just phenomenal and I hope he gains much popularity when WINNER debuts. :D
yes yeeess i really admired their dance the first time i saw it i was like "damn o_o" with my mouth open because that's art D: you could FEEL the dance i can't express it better, but you can tell the dance is not just steps here and there that match with the tune, no, their dance tells a story and conveys a feeling and that was awesome. hands down.
And now Hoony is the dance coach in Dancing High👍🏻
ACCURATE ❤️
이거 진짜 10번넘게 봤음.. 넘 감동적이야 위너사랑해요❤ 물론 아이콘도 대단함 !
2024년에도 보러온 사람은 나 혼자인가
한명더 추가
한명더 추가
추가
여기요
✋
Team A
1 Just another boy 준비 15:20
2 Just another boy 20:06
3 Don't stop the music 준비 44:06
4 Don't stop the music 47:16
Team B
1 Just another boy 준비 26:43
2 Just another boy 30:59
3 세상을 흔들어&Turn up the music 준비 50:46
4 세상을 흔들어&Turn up the music 53:53
이건 다시 봐도 A팀의 역전 성공기네. 각 멤버의 재능을 끌어내고 분배할줄 아는 리더 강승윤과 천재 안무가 이승훈이 있고, 탁월한 보컬 남태현과 래퍼 송민호, 보이스가 독특한 김진우 까지. 새롭다. 위너 장르의 탄생인가!
글쎄
[캐럿] 챈 b보다 a가 더 다양한 듯 보컬도 랩퍼도 안겹치고 근데 그걸 강승윤이 노래로 너무 잘 뭉치게 하는 듯
음역대가 아이콘보다 위너가 더 다양해서 더 듣는 맛이라고 할까? 그런것도 있고 실력을 떠나서 개인적으로 정말 매력이라고 하는 정같은 사람을 이끄는 게 위너가 더 있음. 위너가 약간 더 인간적인 면이 있다고 개인적으로 느껴요.
Just another boy는 B팀이 압살...
@@ilwolmom 맞아요!!!
Team B forever be my FAVORITE since day 1 ❤️😍💯
B팀 어린 나인데도 진짜 노력한 결과가 무대에서 보인다! 힘들고 어려운시간 잘 버텨주고 성장해줘서 고마워!! 천천히 오래가자 아이콘!!!
rewatching this in 2020 and I just wanna say that Yedam is also a star himself. With TREASURE. 'Now, I'll follow those footsteps' . He sure did.
If I watch this four years ago, I'll probably say 'Team B is going to be big in the future if they're going to debut. They're young and they're stage presence is outstanding. They dance great and since they're young, they can still hone their voices.'
But now that I watched this on 2018, I say 'Team B is now iKON and their doing great. And babies, congrats for the successful comeback. Congratulations, too, for surpassing 100million views on your Love Scenario's mv.' Saranghae 😘
and now 200M for the first time of ikon mv. I'm so proud of my babies
and now they win song of the year 2018 MMA and Bi win the songwriter award 💕
N team A is winner until now.
And now love scenario up to 300
And now is reaching for 400m views
Team A's dance routine left me to tears. You can see there's a story behind it. The pain is imminent and it's just so sad.
Team A definitely wasnt given enough credit for their dance. The choreography was beautiful. It was a culmination of all their heartfelt emotions, passion, and conveys their story; the struggle to achieve their dream. It may not have been as in ur face exciting and loud as Team B's but it was just as powerful if not more.
Same and agreed
I 100% agree. I actually got a bit teary-eyed at team A's dance which I did not expect lol. Definitely felt closer to dance as a form of expression than team B's... I felt a bit like team A and team B switched roles. Team B's dance was cool, but I felt like they wanted to look cool (like how Team A used to dance) and some of it was stuff I have seen the teams do before in this competition. In this round, team A's dance won for me, just because it made me feel something and it felt sincere and authentic. And that made me not want to miss a second.
Team A's dance made me so emotional. I've never seen a dance like that from another kpop group, wow really beautiful. What's this type of dance called?
ps. Seunghoon is so talented. I'm so happy that the Team A boys took the risk and chose this dance instead of going for the " typical boyband dance moves".
+Gardenia Magnifica they used variations of hip hop dancing. Hip hop dancing is not just hard and aggressive, it can be lyrical and smooth as well.
😍😍😍
Seunghoon is indeed amazingggggg
I think the dance form was close to 'contemporary'. :) I agree, it made me emotional as well.
갑자기 생각나서 A팀무대봤는데
눈물이 나네 노래나,춤이나 너무 감동적이다
Little yedam was so cute back then! Hha see him now he has already debuted as a main vocalist of treasure weeks ago and also had this first solo 'wayo' months back!
This is win not yg box.
Eventhough I stan team B, but after their debut, I'm so thankful that they don't win this survival show. 'IKON' suit them better, and iKON is not iKON without uri maknae chanwoo.
finally someone said it
yeeees it's all God's plan for them 🥺
Team A aka winner performances are amazing especially the dancing, it was emotional and different plus everyone shined i'm glad they won they honestly deserved it.
Im still crying even I already rewatched this like million of times😭
Amni Zefri lol I'm even crying even I rewatch it on their 3rd anniversary. 😭
이쯤보다 보니까 그냥 어느 팀이든 성공 안 할수가 없는 팀이라고 느껴지는데 그냥 두 팀 다 데뷔시키짘ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
ㅇㅏㅇㅣ콘 위 ㄴㅓ
위너....완전체무대 넘 보고싶어ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ 진짜 데뷔까지 엄청고생했고 우리 군백기는 그동안힘들게 달려와서 잠시 쉬는..조금 긴 휴가(?)라고생각하고 우리 빨리빨리이겨내고 제2막에서 만나요ㅠㅠㅜㅠ 하...넘 멋져 진짜...위너 입덕하길잘한거같아..진짜 한가지 단점이있다면 못빠져나오는거랄까..ㅠㅠㅠㅠ 아 근데 와지 넘 무섭다.. 우리 두 모지리씨를 멋지리로 만들어내는기적...☆
Rewatching this after iKON aka Team B + Chanwoo winning Song of The Year in 2018 MMA n BI got Songwriter Award... As a team B fans since WIN Era, I'm just so proud of their improvement n will always do... iKONIC X iKON FOREVER
😁
I can't believe how underrated Team A's dance was. Yes, Team B's dance was VERY impressive. But the whole hardcore badass hip hop choreographies have been done way too many times. Team A's dance was very unique. It had a different style. It combined both jazz and breakdancing, and it had so much feeling behind it. The boy's movements and facial expressions said more than a thousand words. The choreo was truly a masterpiece. Mad props to Seunghoon.
RANT TOO.
Just voicing my opinion so if you're against me, please remember that everyone has the right to speak their mind.
I have to agree. Winner was VERY underrated and even after they won, I still think they deserve more than that. This show made me feel really angry. Everyone (2NE1 especially) seemed to be soooo biased toward Team B that I feel mostly pity for Team A. Dara's comment about Team A's dance made me angry. Her comment was too general, and not intended to praise the group. When in my opinion, their dance choreography was a lot better than Team B's. There's a story behind the dance and the feelings they portrayed were heartfelt. I've been a fan of Seunghoon since Kpop Star 1 so I know very well how great he is at making choreography and dancing. And I'm not gonna lie, I enjoyed watching Team B's performance more than Team A sometimes. They were awesome and fun (I loved their previous performances), but in terms of grouping, Winner was a more suitable group to debut. I just like seeing them more. They looked 'in place'. Each and every one of the members of Winner took a spot in my heart, and I think that's why Winner won the Viewer's votes. Call me an idiot, but I watched till the end of WIN and I still can't get the names of the members of Team B right, except for BI, Bobby and Jinhwan. Those three were the main faces of Team B anyway, while the rest didn't get that much spotlight. Donghyuk did get some recognition because of his abs and his BBQ party, but the rest? Not so much.
It hasn't been long since Winner debuted and now YG is planning on debuting another boyband by hosting another survival show?! This made me feel AS IF yg has been planning on debuting BI, Bobby and Jinhwan (or Team B) in the first place (before WIN), but he didn't know what to do to Team A, so he made WIN, in order to eliminate them. Turns out they won, and YG has to do what he promised. Now that he fullfilled his promise of debuting them, he went ahead and made another boyband. This is just what I feel YG was doing, not that it might be true. But still. What the actual fuck.
***** I so totally agree with you girls... yg said he wanted winner to be different from bigbang. well surprise surprise they ARE different. I think so too that yg wants b.I. and friends to debut badly that's why he's making them debut right next year! while it took him time to figure out what to do with winner. well news is when ikon debuts, they will not be so different from bigbang. they will sound the same. and hey, the three main guys are what, good in rap and dancing.but that's it. they need good vocals too. I know jin hwan is a vocalist but in my opinion he's not that good. what makes winner tick is that they all have their own forte. so each of the members stand out. and their music can be wide ranged too. so their listeners are not only the young people.whereas ikon being a hiphop group is SO all over the place.
***** Would you have preferred that he disbanded iKon? I mean they are 7 now and 3 of the members had to "fight" for their positions considering it was heavily viewer based. So what if they're gaining more recognition and a bigger fanbase? Don't you think WINNER has more of a shot at expanding their fanbase considering they've debuted? I don't understand how WINNER is mistreated. Honestly, yeah YG prefers iKon because they are more his style, but he hasn't mistreated WINNER in any way. I can guarantee that iKon would have rather won WIN and debuted rather than getting another survival show a year later to try to make their debut. Besides, the deal was "loser disbands or gets reorganized" which they did with the new member, it was the fans choice to keep ot6 not his. YG would have debuted WINNER exactly at this time if they had lost considering the profits and fans. Do you really believe that he would have had Team B compete with Team A considering how much of an advantage Team A had with fans if he only wanted Team B to debut. This was all done for hype and to determine the order of debut. There's nothing wrong with wanting more for your artist, but what more can be given to them in their first year of debut when they've already had a reality show and performances with Big Bang?
***** when did Leader Kang said he wished it was their SELF-COMPOSED song they're promoting?? just wana know when he said that thanks!!
***** How is WIN being made for Winner's debut by YG favoritism against them when M&M are made by fans?
I just found out that an international artist Jamie Cullum shows interest on winner during the performance by team A "don't stop the music"....woahhhh that only proves that winner is a group full of talent. I'm happy to be an inner circle.
위너춤너무멋있다 여태동안 젤멋있네
wow Team A's dance performance was sooo unique and beautiful. It was soooooooo beautiful. ;_;
Mr. Jang and Taeyang's smile said everything.
if you want go watch it on a fancam it's so much better (the camrea here lost a lot of important points)
thanks me later 😊
yeaaah I didn't look Taeyang smile to team B
+Matan Ai of course. because taeyang was being team A's mentor. and Gd teamB's mentor
2019년에 보석함 끝나고 다시 보러왔다
나같은 사람 또 있겠지??
와..예담이 진짜 어리네..
Team A's dance.. just wow~ Coming here again and rewatching this. I got goosebumps. No matter how often I replay I want to see it again and again, I'll never get tired of it. Seunghoon is incredible, he's a true artist
Team A give me mature vibe, Team B give me the fresh feeling. Glad I could enjoy both team in the short time. WINNER fighting! iKON fighting!
i watched this again because i really miss WINNER and im watching all again weekly idol, nico nico, Japan tour, WINNERTV, Vapp, Mnet backstage in less words ALL like 10000000 times.
btw I really respect and love Taeyang he is soo good with our boys like a father after GD was my bias but now my eyes are in the sweet Tae.
and I love how BOM always shows her love for Namtae, miss her.
yes i like them bcs they were the kindest with WINNER seungri and Tabi too.
same
Team B im a fan. Go!B.I Go!Bobby Go!Chanwoo.you are a star.
Am i the one who just watch this in 2018?
Anaa Dya Loool we're same hahahah
Me too lol
Yup back from YG Treasure boys. New generation! But WIN is like bible for survivor show in Kpop generally
Naaaah here I am watching this on dec 2018
Me.. After become an iKONIC 😂
Justice to team a's dance hahaha but srsly, that choreo was too great, you can write a novel about that dance, all the moves are relevant,even that part when hoon touched the floor, still got me some feels. Maybe not everyone would appreciate the dance, but i really do, so much,its like a meaningful song, that i'll forever treasure instead of those catchy song that got me at first but then forgets in a week or two.damn im just so into the dance,i wonder if anyone in kpop can pull off this dance aside from winner, this is just pure genius on so many different levels.
waddup Yeach, you right. Team A's dance almost have more story than just dance and show it. From 1st battle with BB and 2NE1 judge, I start recognize it how their dance have a great tempo and get into each beat from the song. Maybe not perfect at dancer level but they are always have another new idea to put in their dance, include how imagine story from the song transform to every moves as dance. Its just amaze me and I still remember this performance and their 2nd battle dance with school story. While team B so perfect on dance moves and their high energy, I love it. I'm just looks like silent and stunned with their performance but time after time, totally I can move on another and not remember what exactly they did before. I just know and remember that team B are great dancer and always have fun peformance, love to see. While at team A's dance, till now I can make memory about their dance that combine with the song, my mind just like rewind all that memory for their performance before.
Muznah 'Ena' yess:)) They dance to express, to tell story, to let people relate to them. I just love it how every move is so on point and each member is relevant. They may not be the best dancers for me but damn i dont think i can forget this whole performance for the rest of my life XD I wish more people could see how great they are
waddup
I think its not about people could see it. Definitely they already know and see all of it but hard to admit it. ^.*
Muznah 'Ena' agree:))
waddup ive been a fan of seunghoon since kpop star. his dance style is more towards lyrical and like what jyp used to say to him, he is an artist. i always always come back to this performance of them especially when im having a meltdown. the first time when this episode aired, i almost shed tears to this performance especially once the song started to build up. ugh! just i miss them actually. haha.
Team A's dance was so emotional. It gave me chills. Seunghoon choreographed a work of art. Wow.
23:50 that smile! taeyang knows team A slayed that shit!!
한빈아 고생했어 음악 해줘서 너무 고마워 보고싶고 사랑해
이걸 내가 6년만에 무대로 다시 보게 될줄이야 ㅠㅠㅠ 이번 콘서트보고 다시 찾아왔당,,,
Team A's dance gave me chills and made me cry but the yg fam comments were so lackluster I don't get it
+Jas A I noticed you on every Winner's video.. Im so grateful to have you as an Incle :) Winner fighting !!
Lil-Ms Mustache Awe thanks 💛💛💛💛💛
gave me so many chills too!
touching dance performance, A team jjang!!
+Jas A Me too! It give me chills everytime I watch this dance. I'm not satisfied with Dara's comments though. It's like staying safe. She didn't mention about the dance and the meaning behind it.
Team A's dance is so heartfelt. Lee Seunghoon's choreo/dance talent shines.
"For me, stage is home,music is rice,microphone is spoon and audience is the vitamin" - > B.I(leader of team B), date: 2010.01.04
at that time he is just 14. woow what a passion...
i can feel team A warm heart...their kindness...
49:08 yg was smiling but as soon as he realized that a camera is covering him he hide his smile
SO it isn't like he doesn't care for his artists
He cares about the most the thing is he never shows his emotion to the people
SEUNGRI HAS SPOKEN!! ahaha but seriously though Team A's dance did have me tearing up by the time they finished, and Team B's dance did actually take my breath away. I forgot I wasn't breathing until they finished. ugh both teams are so good i can't even choose a favorite anymore.
36:13 yunhyeong's sister..
Btw TEAM A DESERVES TO BE WINNER.. BECAUSE DEBUTING THEM IN 2014 IS A GOOD TIMING
WHILE TEAM B DESERVES TO LOSE BECAUSE DEBUTING THEM IN 2015 IS CORRECT TIMING
BECAUSE iKON is A very HOT rookie these days..
I love them both!
I'm so impressed of how Team A improved. Instead of trying to beat Team B, they finally created their own image that Team B cannot surpass. Team A already looks like an idol group now. I hope YG changes his mind about disbanding the losing team. Both groups deserve to debut; they worked so hard to win this brutal competition. I don't want all their efforts and hard work to go to waste.
A is not an idol anymore. They're real artist
Agreed. I'm glad they have. Honestly, I didn't enjoy their performances much at the start of this show, but now I really enjoy them. What Taeyang and Chanhyuk were saying about not forgetting why you're doing music - because you enjoy/love it, I'm glad Team A remembered this and brought themselves back. 💛
I say 'now'... but I am aware this all happened 7 years ago, and they are probably much better and improved by now haha. 😂
보석함 보고 이걸 또 보면 진짜 이거 넘 세는 프로그램있었다는게 느껴…
지금도 좋지만 이 시대도 짱죠아
비팀 아니 이제 아이콘 정말 수고했고 노래해줘서 태어나줘서 고마워요😀😀😀정말 노력하는모습 멋있어요 윈 지금 몇번째 다시보는건지 모르겠는데 볼때마다 정말 눈물나고 그냥. . . 음 어쨌든 아이콘 우리 천천히 오래가자😘😘😘😘사랑해💘
Team A's dance was beautiful, full of artistry and creativity! I love the parts with Seunghoon dancing with Jinwoo, then with Seungyoon. With Jinwoo, they're doing the same moves, but in different directions, kind of like Team A and Team B. With Seungyoon, it's like they have to step on each other to win, that any help can't be fully accepted because of the competition. Really wonderful storytelling!
누가 알았겠어 이들이 아이콘이 되고 위너가 되서 성공했을지
누가 알았겠어
이들이 마약범이있고
은닉한애가 있고
양다리 걸치는 애가 있을 줄
soccerK키야 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ은닉 한 건 양현석이지 그리고 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ탈퇴멤 언급 하지마
@@k리그폐인 ㅡㅡ
누가알았겠어 아이콘 폭망할줄은
Nam Taehyun is just gorgeous >
I feel u gurl
Miss him as a member
since 5 years ago I've been interested in team B, the six of them have stolen my attention. until this moment I'm proud to be one of my favorite fandom "iKONIC" 😍😍😍 but I also love them eleven since they were trainees. WINKON fighting !!!
WINNER is WINNER and iKON is iKON and all of them are amazing and unique❤️️❤️️❤️️ WINKON FIGHTING!!
team A's dance gave me chills. feel their sincerity in it.
위너 싸랑해💙
I can see how much Taeyang supported Team A. Whenever they sing/dance he seemed proud of them and happy bur when Team B did there was no expression in his face. ;)
becouse taeyang is the mentor of team A ofcourse He did.. team B mentor is GD
It's episode 10 so of course I know
team b aka ikon have gd he even gifted them a song .. so let us havs taeyang ok
+spy 009 why are you kind of getting mad? You didn't even understand my comment or what?
Daniela Ponce actually your comment was off i mean what you wanna say ?.. ikon got everything they deserved and more so ,,,
Hanbin's so handsome I cannot
yeaa😁
Love scenario brought me here and It pissing me off to see how everyone hate iKon because they are really have fun on this show so people called it impolite. Okay team A did really good and work hard but team B is also amazing and work hard too so stop saying yg are biased towards team B. Even if yg 'maybe' biased team B, that doesn't mean it's justify to hate team B.
Ann Nick true😊
I agree
Why people hating iKon?
For me team a so amazing they look fresh and good voice and dance...
I love ikon!
위너 군대 잘 갔다오고 빨리 돌아와 노래 듣고싶어 ㅠㅠ
Taeyang's smile is like: "oh i am so proud of them ☺️"
Team A's dance performance was simply beautiful. the brilliance of Seunghoon's choreography and wonderful execution by all the members.
Am I the ONLY one who found out about iKON and WINNER through this like 2 years after they'd both debuted... :'D Honestly I'd never listened to ANYTHING from either group but after seeing this, I feel like I don't even need to get to know them because I already do and I'm glad they'd both debuted ~
Literally me... I didn't even know a kpop group called winner existed until last week ahah. And I've been into kpop for nearly a year now. But I think I totally stan them after this 😄
me too hahaha im just watching trailer of hwarang then i see ep 1 of win then i watch it,im shocked when i see it (just sharing lol)
Katie Pop21 Better late than never, right? 😊😊 3 years had past and I'm still here rewatching WIN for the nth time wishing WINNER can comeback sooner. 😭😭
28:56 이 부분 나만 웃겨?ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 팀B just another boy 노래 넘 중독성있음
This is going to sound weird but I love the Taehyun moves his mouth when he sings
I wasn't expecting it, but my eyes actually got teary with Team A's dance. They used dance as a wonderful form of expression. *applause*
Can you believe it? Bang Yedam was in Win for a special performance and its 2019 he was put through the same Hell as Winner and iKon 🗿
And I'm actually here in 2019 saying to Winner and iKon that they're doing so great after this struggle. So much love goes to them.
And Seungri being the loving Sunbae that he is, can someone just feel the love from him too. Oh my goodness.
와 이거 처음봤을때가 작년 3월에 위너 찾다가 봤는데 어느새 2016년이넹 이건 레알10번은넘게본듯..
Does anyone notice Tae Yang's proud looking after Team A's first 2 performances? He sees the changes in them as he directly engages in their battle and smiles proud. I just love that moment so much!
계속 봐도 아이콘 just another boy 진짜 개좋음
omg Taeyang's smile at 23:50 seriously slayed me omg i can't take his sexiness
lol same here
Team B got swag! XD
When the audiences in silent for a moment when team A dance, what a beauty thats make a goosebump 😣 Lee Seunghoon is a real 👍
WINNER & IKON FIGHTING!!
솔직히 이 프로그램 자체가 위너 성장 드라마 같음 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 첨엔 진짜 오합지졸 뭔가 팀으로써 안 맞는 듯했는데, 점점 친해지는 모습보이다가 스마일 어게인에서 포텐 터지고 완전 끈끈해진 느낌. 뭔가 사이는 좋지만 이상하게 못 어울리는 애들 모아놓고 걔네들 친해지는거 바라보는 청춘 만화 같음 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
우여곡절 많았네ㅠㅠ 위너 오래오래 활동해 주세요💙
춤추는게 이렇게 감동적일 일인가ㅠㅠ
Loved Team A dance part,that wasn't a dance that was art,kudos to Lee SeungHoon,he sure is a genius and and artist,i won't be surprised if later on he might coreograf musicals
hahah bom always talk about Nam taehyun
I like Team B better but I feel like the only ones I hear about are B.I and Bobby. They are great but shouldn't the other members be recognized too?
ikon ❤ B.I perfect.. ❤
When I watch this I have no doubts why Winner won
They have endless charms and are incredibly talented. The dance was extremely touching, Seunghoon is a genius! Seriously Winner is so talented I can't even believe it. They produce and compose, they choreograph like what can't they do???? It's the first time I'm paying attention to another group besides Big Bang bc they put the bar extremely high but Winner has reach the bar!!! YG hurry up and debut them bc I'm ready to spend all my money on them!!!! Winner's popularity is no joke, for the Fanta event they had 1,500 fans showed up. Remember guys, they are still a PRE DEBUT GROUP
Winner has such a bright future ahead of them I honestly can't wait to witness it!!!
WINNER FIGHTING !!!!!
I love Team A,.. now that iKon has release the first MV i still stand for my babies :) Team A is still the best. a WINNER indeed :)
me too :)
me too :)
+Krizzy Ae me too
me tooooo!! no hard feelings for ikon, but i love Winner better. each team has their own charms and talents. it's not about who's better than who, it's about how their songs capture our hearts. it doesn't matter which team you prefer because both are talented!
I can't bored of team A dancing even after 9 months I keep wanting it . Their dancing is just perfection . And seunghoon really perfect cheorgrapher . I love this team cuz they can put their emotions in everything they do singing or dancing really deserve to be the " winner "
돈스뮤는 진짜 넘사벽이다. 어떤 춤을 갖다 붙여도 안된다. 이승훈 아티스트
42:57 Seungri oppa I miss you❤😭💔💔 you're the best
Jamie Cullum (the one who sang team A's dance song) tweeted team A/Winner's performance...that's why I came to watch it and it amazes me to see such a unique dance from a kpop group, I was expecting the typical energetic swag dance most kpop group dance but these guys surprised me, it was indeed refreshing from what I use to see from kpop groups. plus their song, go up sounded really well composed and professional. I'm greatly impressed
MISS TEAM B SOOOOOOOOOOO MUCHHHHHHHHH