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The reason your toes are catching the mudguard is twofold: Firstly the rake of the front forks is steep rather than slack which shortens the wheelbase by bringing the front wheel closer to the bottom bracket and secondly, the positioning of your feet on the peddles is wrong and I've noticed this in many of your videos. The correct position is not with the peddle under the tarsal bones of your feet (The centres or arches of your feet). Doing this robs you of both the strength and the inbuilt suspension available in your feet - it's a bit like having flat feet. You need to move your feet rearwards so that the metatarsal bones of your feet are pressing on the pedal (The pads between the toes and the arches of your feet). This will add back strength through the suspension you can apply through your feet by using them as levers, in the same way you use your feet as levers to lift onto your toes - which occurs naturally when walking and causes you to be able to propel yourself forward and push off from your toes when walking. There's one other adjustment you should make and that is to raise your saddle slightly. Currently your knees are too bent when your legs are extended (Pedal in the lowest part of it's rotation). Again that robs both strength and leverage from each rotation, will tire you out earlier especially on long rides and ultimately will lead to joint pain in the knees and possibly in the hips. If you want to pop over two doors, I'd be very happy to help you really set up a bike properly. Weekend of the 10th/11th February?
Anyone who can't even manage to set the saddle height correctly and use the balls of his feet on the pedals should perhaps be reviewing something else. Criticising any machine for mudguard to pedal overlap due his own sheer ignorance and laziness should enjoy the respect as a reviewer he truly deserves. Shall we say 3/10 for effort? 🙄
@@Tricyklist Ouch. Uncalled for comment! e-VRC's videos are hugely informative on all sorts of human or electrical powered transportation modes and I watch them with enjoyment. Instead of nasty adjectives, a more useful contribution to the conversation, would have been simply to hit the like button or state you agree with me and perhaps provide helpful tips of your own - if you had any.
@@evertdevries8814 I have been actively cycling for 70years. I now ride thousands of km on a '45' e-bike. Which I discuss endlessly on my 14 year old cycling blog. Being told what to believe by a person who cannot even set up and ride a bike properly really gets on my nerves. He is an awful example to others! He rides like a toddler! Absolutely pathetic! IMHO.
@@Tricyklist You're hilarious :) You're really on a small youtuber's ebike review to be mean. And also wrong on all counts. 1. I merely stated my experience, it wasn't overt criticism. It's not happened on any other bike . As Evert said, the positioning of the mudguard is different on this bike. 2. I literally wrote in the video that I ride on my heels too much AND I said I don't ride properly so most people won't have that problem. So yeah, ignorance is out the window sorry. And laziness? Yeah maybe. I don't ride ebikes to race people, I'm just chilling in a position comfortable to me. I genuinely hope you have a nice day tomorrow as you need cheering up. But if doing this cheers you up then feel free to continue doing it on my videos. I can take it. I admit I'm not great at not replying to incorrect comments though. But I am getting better :)
Great to see some more reviews coming for this bike. I got one at the start of February and it's currently in a bike shop to get a new brake lever fitted that won't leak. Sadly customer service (which seems to be in China) misunderstood the issue and hasn't helped, so I just wanted to be able to ride properly (not with just one brake) and will pay out of my own pocket. That problem aside, I noticed that my bike was derestricted out of the box. Unless you install the app and set it up, you'll be set to go all the way to around 28mph. You can select 15.5mph, but as the bike ships from Europe (with a European 2 pin plug also) I guess they didn't see fit to change. I also have a third cable capped off, an orange one, which has nothing to plug in to. I have to wonder if that's for a throttle that we didn't get but might be an option on newer builds? There's nothing in the manual that just says to connect the TWO plugs - but I absolutely have three. I don't think a throttle is needed because, as you say, the motor kicks in immediately. This was one thing I was worried about as my other e-bike (a MiRider) is slow to kick in, making the throttle essential. I am happy with the bike even though I am without it right now, but I do think if you do a follow up video you need to mention the customer service or lack of - because it does feel like a company that isn't really set up in the UK properly. Sell from China, ship from Europe, and if you have a problem it can take days to reply and they don't seem particularly helpful or understanding. Early days I'm sure, but hopefully as long as the motor and battery don't fail, I can get any other issues fixed locally. Bike warranties are always a bit of a minefield. Finally, great video and another happy subscriber!
Thanks for watching and also for the info it will be useful for others to read. Yeah I really like the bike but as you said this does seem how the company is set up as with most of the brands of the bikes I receive tbh - Chinese and deliver from Europe. Unfortunately it's as if they're always asleep when we message- I usually wake up to their replies. Hope you manage to get it sorted.
Good review, thanks for the speed test, would've liked to know how it fairs uphill at max assist and the real range of this e-bike at max assist. Heard the quality is suspect and parts shipped from china?
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@@stevezodiac491 Well done! I TT'd when I was a teenager. A TT/triathlon bike + rider is very low drag compared with sitting comfortably upright on a heavy e-bike. My average speed on longer rides, up to 85 miles so far, is around 28kph or 17mph but I am 77 and certainly not racing. 😜
The easiest solution to saddle discomfort is to change the handlebar to a drop bar not change the saddle. Yes you will need to change out brakes and gears. Changing the saddle to a more comfortable one prolongs the ride, but drop bars eliminate saddle discomfort by shifting your body weight to not directly on your ass. Road bike don't have the softest saddles but ride the longest distance and don't leave you feeling crippled.
I am afraid your suggestion is completely impractical in real life. A wider saddle will suit the more right position for a more comfortable-bike. The controls on most e-bikes are only for MTB style bars. It would take a mechanical genius to make these controls applicable to dropped [racing] bars. Where would it all go? Dropped bars are also much narrower than MTB bars. Losing the relaxed, easy control and steering. No doubt the big names in racing kit will release appropriate equipment eventually. BUT, only if racing road bikes become battery assisted in highly visible, organised competition.
@@e-VRC Can you please comment on the fact that the Lankeleisi X3000 Max comes with two 20 Amp Controllers which seems way underrated for 2 x 1200 w peak motors, would love to hear your thoughts on this please.
Also a hybrid may have a higher bottom bracket height than a road bike, this increases the problem of getting your foot down if the saddle is far enough from the pedals for an efficient peddaling action.
Don't pedal with your insteps, put the ball of your foot over the pedal axle. Then not only will you be able to pedal far stronger for far longer but your shoe will not engage the front mudguard. I think that you may be instepping because your saddle is set way too low and you are unconsciously trying to dispose of excess leg length. A real cyclist will not be able to touch the ground with more than a tiptoe if they stay in the saddle when they stop, and not even that if the road is cambered. Always look for a kerb to put your foot on when you stop, or come down in front of the saddle when you stop.
What gets me is the go farther advertising plus the usual can do range... Eco mode=slow. I don't drive and anxiety stopped me using public transport. I have an unexpected but necessary 356(r) mile road trip to make this year. The would require 178 miles an over night charge and return. Could spend much less than a cheap ebike making sure my road bike could do it.
Well, there's a difference. While many people can achieve 25-30 mph, few can sustain it unless they have a road bike and/or are well-trained. The latter also implies they have experience on the roads, know how to read traffic and act appropriately and understand that even though you have right of way, you will still bear the worst consequences in the event of a crash. Additionally, e-bikes are typically heavier. Those who purchase e-bikes here in Denmark are predominantly elderly people who otherwise would resort to public transport or travelling by car. Even with the restrictions on e-bike top speed, e-bikes are more commonly involved in traffic accidents.
@@am7265 A very sensible comment. Th elderly are poorly prepared for the increased speed of e-bikes. High visibility clothing would help. Even though I hate anything which stops people from adopting e-bikes. I believe there ought to be organised training schemes. Just as there is in Denmark for IC mopeds.
It's one of those laws that I just completely ignore for that reason alone. Why does it matter if someone is using a motor to go say 20-25mph versus using their legs. I've had genuinely legal ebikes before and they are so annoying to ride as you are constantly bouncing off the speed limiter and the motor cuts in and out, it's actually a rather unpleasant thing and distracted me from the ride due to the jolt every time my speed dropped below 15.5 for a split second🤣. My current bike is topping out around 35 it's done 3000 miles now so I might try and add a motor to the front wheel as well.
@@e-VRC most?, well, family members own 6 ebikes between them, about 10 friends own ebikes, all of them are legal ebikes, so easy to find them, you ask what does it matter, if you happen to be caught by the police (unlikely I accept) then you could be prosecuted for no insurance , no driving license ( if you don't have motorbike entitlement) plenty points to lose a driving license if you have one, and if you did injure someone and you're not insured they would own you
@dale-qz9dg most ebikes come locked to 15.5mph but are generally very easy to unlock. ALL ebikes are also more powerful than 250w. Brands are able to classify their bikes as 250w and the law is incredibly wooly when it comes to the power. If someone is riding safe on a bike that's sold as 250w and doesn't go over 15.5 then imo they have nothing to worry about. Remember that's what we're talking about here. A bike that's sold as 250 (and unlike some others isn't far off), has assistance up to 15.5 and has no throttle. Now if you left this comment on my pvy z20 plus or L20 reviews I'd totally understand but on this video...
@@dale-qz9dgYou do realise all these laws were passed without anyone in this country giving consent? You do realise you are bowing down to tyranny? Do you know why the government passes all these ridiculous laws? It's to make money from people. You've turned into a over sensitive snowflake who's offended by anyone and anything and you bow down to tyranny and obey dictatorship laws.
your foot is hitting the mud guard because your pedaling with the middle of your foot and not the ball of your foot. The ball of your foot is what you should be using.
If you haul on the back brake full force with hydraulic brakes you can lock up the wheel very easily, especially in the gutter where there is often loose material and more moisture that rolls under your tyre and allows it to lock up. Don't blame the tyres, although they may be Chinese not German, learn to use hydraulic brakes. The tyres were so new, you may not have worn off any moulding glaze. If the arse end breaks away immediately release the brake a little and re-apply. Be wary of overuse of the front brake as that can send you over the handlebar, but about 40% of your braking effort should be on the front. The important thing is not to snatch the front brake, feed it in progressively if you can, by practice you develop a very good feel for what you can do when a myriad of potential SMIDSYs come a calling.
I think you are still misunderstanding some of the basic principles of how ebikes work here. That Motor is no different to any other 250w Motor. You're reaching 30mph on it because of your peddling which is easier on that Bike because it's lighter. How fast is it if you 'Ghost' pedal ? it certainly won't reach 30mph for sure. Forget about this 250 watts thing, they all peak much higher. You could fit a 48v Battery to that Bike and providing the controller could handle it you would get 33% more speed, all 250w Ebike Motors will take a higher Voltage it's not the Volts that kills them it's the Amps.
You have to remember I'm trying to sell the video. As seen in the video without help the bike goes 20. I love that the bike easily gets to 30. A combination of light weight, gear ratio, thin tyres etc. So I'm talking about the mechanical, non electrical part of the bike. Also remember that some ebikes make it extremely hard to pedal after the assistance cuts out due to motors with extra resistance (like direct drive or mid drive), fat tyres, heavy weight.
It's going 20mph because you're peddling it that's why you're breathing heavier than at rest. Ghost pedal and the speed will drop to 15.5, that's the law unless it's been derestricted by the manufacturer for the purposes of your demo. The bike's light so it's easier to push along even with only slight pressure on the pedals. That said I appreciate your honesty in commenting you are 'selling' the Video and therefore the bike itself, we just have to be clear that any Ebike will go faster than 15.5mph if you pedal fast. I can travel much faster on my bikes if i pedal like hell but then I'm only 75kg so a lightweight myself.@@e-VRC
@rossgreen4156 I'm actually not trying to sell the bike. Only the video. If people like the bike after the review then great. I was ghost pedalling when it got to 20. They often come derestricted both to me and to buyers. Again some ebikes struggle to get much over 17 when derestricted. They may be limited by the controller. Some '250w' ebikes have a 48v battery so much more actual power going through the motor. Bikes that are classed the same can be extremely different in performance.
Apologies in replying YT playing up at my end.@@e-VRC What i'm trying to point is as you know Ebikes in the UK are configured in such a way as to cut out assisting with power when your speed reaches 15.5mph, and no I don't like that stupid law either. Now if you have a bike that has been modified so as not to stop delivering power to the drive then it's against the Law to ride it on the road. It doesn't matter if it did arrive like that out of the box the responsibily lies with you not the supplier. Sooner or later you will get pulled by plod (it always happens) and there's not much point in saying you were not aware when you have all these Videos online.
Shame it doesn't have a throttle. They are so useful when pulling away and getting moving at low speed. Battery is lowish capacity, Cant see it getting 100KM
Yeah throttles are so useful. It helps that the assist kicks in so fast but I'd still prefer a throttle. But for people who want a legal option it's worth a look.
As a small channel ive mainly dealt with cheaper chinese brands. Overall I've seen a similar quality control to 'larger' brands that I've paid my own money for and also many many positive long term reports. Just don't trust the 'reviews' on their own websites 😬😬
I've abused the cheapest Chinese 2000w direct drive motor for a year now, it's constantly being pushed full throttle up hill, down hill you name it, ridden in the wet all through winter on these salty muddy roads. My drivetrain certainly isn't happy about it but the motor doesn't give a toss!. These components will be just fine they're only pushing like 500-600 watts at peak.
I've abused the cheapest Chinese 2000w direct drive motor for a year now, it's constantly being pushed full throttle up hill, down hill you name it, ridden in the wet all through winter on these salty muddy roads. My drivetrain certainly isn't happy about it but the motor doesn't give a toss!. These components will be just fine they're only pushing like 500-600 watts at peak.
If you want to publish bike reviews a little bit of cycling technique awareness would be helpful. You should learn how to place your feet on the pedals, thats why you are having a problem. That riding style is pretty inefficient. Move your feet backwards on pedals, your pedalling will improve dramatically and you will look less like you are riding a clown bike. Have a look at the way competitive riders use the pedals, it will help you.
All the info is in the video. I wasn't going down hill. I was on the flat road I usually use to do speed tests where some more powerful bikes have barely made it to 30 with me out the saddle trying really hard. This time I was barely trying. If people watch the video they see at the very beginning it goes 20 without any effort. If people want to jump to any conclusions without watching the video then that's up to them.
@@e-VRC ok i understand it's just that I've never seen a 250 watt e bike hit 30mph unless going downhill. I totally enjoy your content so keep up the good work.
@@e-VRC That is interesting as well as potentially illegal. I ride a 28mph '45kph' road legal Moustache FS27 "Speed" e-bike. A legal 600Watts! Compulsory approved helmet! 3rd party insurance costs me £1000 per year! It is all but impossible to exceed that 28mph limit despite my fitness and Turbo mode. The Bosch Speed Line motor will not allow me to go any faster on the flat. Downhill speed is limited by my upright riding position. The cut-off at 28mph downhill, or on the flat, is very noticeable!
@@Tricyklistdude why are you actually paying that for insurance? I've done 3000 Miles in the past year all around my county and never had a problem from anybody. I can't imagine what a bicycle with a number plate on it looks like.
@@JudeTheRUclipsPoopersubscribe Number plates are required by law on the '45' Speed class in some European countries. Though not in Denmark. There are numerous other rules. Legal "Speed" '45kph' e-bikes cost far too much to have them confiscated by the police.
You are breaking the silly UK e-bike speed law. A small child on a kiddy's bike with stabilisers can manage 15mph. If you hit anybody while riding that thing you are liable and uninsured.
@@e-VRC Unlocking an e-bike is illegal. Making you a criminal and liable for any injury you cause. Possibly millions. You also invalidate any guarantee. Many cheap e-bikes won't have the brakes to cope with the higher speeds. The motors and gears can't cope for long either.
I've tried telling e-VRC about his responsibilities to his 8k + subs but he thinks it's all a joke. Fair enough, but it's just a matter of time before the law pounces. Pity really this could be a very informative channel...over to you Plod. @@Tricyklist
@@Technician4444 Like yourself I am a keen advocate of e-bikes. I want them to mature. Anything which the politicians can use to hinder progress towards that goal is a spoiler. RUclips reviewers and e-bike owners alike, have a responsibility in avoiding negativity towards these machines.
@@MKBx1 Well done! Unlocked, modified and chip tuned e-bikes may be ridden ONLY on private land with the permission of the landowner. No matter how skilled a rider may be they cannot foresee all possible risks. 👍
Problem is everyone thinks I either need to get somewhere really fast or I want to be Bradley Wiggins. This is simply how I like to ride a bike. It's set up so I can ride it how I want it. Granted the hitting the mudguards issue won't be an issue for many people (great news!) but it's only happened to me on this bike and I merely commented on that fact. Great bike though 👍👍
Man these pre built ebikes are starting to become really good and really cheap... It's a lovely looking fast bicycle. Battery says 15amp discharge rate and im assuming the controller is a tiny below that so yeah this bike is gonna pull around 600 watts at peak, combined with the really lightweight it's no wonder it's quite quick.
@@Tricyklist rider weight can be decreased (easier said than done lol) but bike can't do it's fairly important it's kept to a minimum. Mine is 11kg heavier than the bike in the video but it was an old mountain bike to begin with and the rear motor is a massive direct drive.
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The reason your toes are catching the mudguard is twofold: Firstly the rake of the front forks is steep rather than slack which shortens the wheelbase by bringing the front wheel closer to the bottom bracket and secondly, the positioning of your feet on the peddles is wrong and I've noticed this in many of your videos. The correct position is not with the peddle under the tarsal bones of your feet (The centres or arches of your feet). Doing this robs you of both the strength and the inbuilt suspension available in your feet - it's a bit like having flat feet. You need to move your feet rearwards so that the metatarsal bones of your feet are pressing on the pedal (The pads between the toes and the arches of your feet). This will add back strength through the suspension you can apply through your feet by using them as levers, in the same way you use your feet as levers to lift onto your toes - which occurs naturally when walking and causes you to be able to propel yourself forward and push off from your toes when walking. There's one other adjustment you should make and that is to raise your saddle slightly. Currently your knees are too bent when your legs are extended (Pedal in the lowest part of it's rotation). Again that robs both strength and leverage from each rotation, will tire you out earlier especially on long rides and ultimately will lead to joint pain in the knees and possibly in the hips. If you want to pop over two doors, I'd be very happy to help you really set up a bike properly. Weekend of the 10th/11th February?
Yeah I'm very flat footed. I have a very lazy way of riding 😂😂
Anyone who can't even manage to set the saddle height correctly and use the balls of his feet on the pedals should perhaps be reviewing something else. Criticising any machine for mudguard to pedal overlap due his own sheer ignorance and laziness should enjoy the respect as a reviewer he truly deserves. Shall we say 3/10 for effort? 🙄
@@Tricyklist Ouch. Uncalled for comment! e-VRC's videos are hugely informative on all sorts of human or electrical powered transportation modes and I watch them with enjoyment. Instead of nasty adjectives, a more useful contribution to the conversation, would have been simply to hit the like button or state you agree with me and perhaps provide helpful tips of your own - if you had any.
@@evertdevries8814 I have been actively cycling for 70years. I now ride thousands of km on a '45' e-bike. Which I discuss endlessly on my 14 year old cycling blog. Being told what to believe by a person who cannot even set up and ride a bike properly really gets on my nerves. He is an awful example to others! He rides like a toddler! Absolutely pathetic! IMHO.
@@Tricyklist You're hilarious :) You're really on a small youtuber's ebike review to be mean. And also wrong on all counts. 1. I merely stated my experience, it wasn't overt criticism. It's not happened on any other bike . As Evert said, the positioning of the mudguard is different on this bike. 2. I literally wrote in the video that I ride on my heels too much AND I said I don't ride properly so most people won't have that problem. So yeah, ignorance is out the window sorry. And laziness? Yeah maybe. I don't ride ebikes to race people, I'm just chilling in a position comfortable to me. I genuinely hope you have a nice day tomorrow as you need cheering up. But if doing this cheers you up then feel free to continue doing it on my videos. I can take it. I admit I'm not great at not replying to incorrect comments though. But I am getting better :)
Your style of review gives people a much better idea of the information that people want to know about ebikes than most reviews. Thanks.
Thanks, glad they help. Thanks for watching 👍👍
Great video thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching 👍👍
Great to see some more reviews coming for this bike. I got one at the start of February and it's currently in a bike shop to get a new brake lever fitted that won't leak. Sadly customer service (which seems to be in China) misunderstood the issue and hasn't helped, so I just wanted to be able to ride properly (not with just one brake) and will pay out of my own pocket.
That problem aside, I noticed that my bike was derestricted out of the box. Unless you install the app and set it up, you'll be set to go all the way to around 28mph. You can select 15.5mph, but as the bike ships from Europe (with a European 2 pin plug also) I guess they didn't see fit to change.
I also have a third cable capped off, an orange one, which has nothing to plug in to. I have to wonder if that's for a throttle that we didn't get but might be an option on newer builds? There's nothing in the manual that just says to connect the TWO plugs - but I absolutely have three. I don't think a throttle is needed because, as you say, the motor kicks in immediately. This was one thing I was worried about as my other e-bike (a MiRider) is slow to kick in, making the throttle essential.
I am happy with the bike even though I am without it right now, but I do think if you do a follow up video you need to mention the customer service or lack of - because it does feel like a company that isn't really set up in the UK properly. Sell from China, ship from Europe, and if you have a problem it can take days to reply and they don't seem particularly helpful or understanding.
Early days I'm sure, but hopefully as long as the motor and battery don't fail, I can get any other issues fixed locally. Bike warranties are always a bit of a minefield.
Finally, great video and another happy subscriber!
Thanks for watching and also for the info it will be useful for others to read. Yeah I really like the bike but as you said this does seem how the company is set up as with most of the brands of the bikes I receive tbh - Chinese and deliver from Europe. Unfortunately it's as if they're always asleep when we message- I usually wake up to their replies. Hope you manage to get it sorted.
You are right - your feet are much too far forward on the pedals. So not a surprise that you were catching the front mudguard!
Good review.
Good review, thanks for the speed test, would've liked to know how it fairs uphill at max assist and the real range of this e-bike at max assist. Heard the quality is suspect and parts shipped from china?
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Our laws on ebikes need to catch up to the real world. It's really nice to see so many purchase options in different price brackets.
Yeah I've been impressed with Heybike almost like a budget premium brand 😂
That's cool. Almost as fast as my road bike.
As an experienced cyclist and e-biker I must say that your fitness exceeds the vast majority of weekend warriors. 😉
@Tricyklist I have averaged 27.4 mph for 25 miles in TT races solo, reaching speeds of 42 mph, you couldn't do that on an E bike.
@@stevezodiac491 Well done! I TT'd when I was a teenager. A TT/triathlon bike + rider is very low drag compared with sitting comfortably upright on a heavy e-bike. My average speed on longer rides, up to 85 miles so far, is around 28kph or 17mph but I am 77 and certainly not racing. 😜
@@stevezodiac491try that when ur 66. E bikes forever
The easiest solution to saddle discomfort is to change the handlebar to a drop bar not change the saddle. Yes you will need to change out brakes and gears. Changing the saddle to a more comfortable one prolongs the ride, but drop bars eliminate saddle discomfort by shifting your body weight to not directly on your ass.
Road bike don't have the softest saddles but ride the longest distance and don't leave you feeling crippled.
That actually makes a lot of sense. And also it's odd that I've never seen an e-road bike.
I am afraid your suggestion is completely impractical in real life. A wider saddle will suit the more right position for a more comfortable-bike. The controls on most e-bikes are only for MTB style bars. It would take a mechanical genius to make these controls applicable to dropped [racing] bars. Where would it all go? Dropped bars are also much narrower than MTB bars. Losing the relaxed, easy control and steering. No doubt the big names in racing kit will release appropriate equipment eventually. BUT, only if racing road bikes become battery assisted in highly visible, organised competition.
What size frame did you have? And what would you suggest for someone 5ft9
This is the larger frame the 20 inch. I'm the same height so I'd say this one but i bet we could get away with either.
@@e-VRC ok thank you
cool video bro
Cheers!
@@e-VRC your welcome
Nice video. Pls what’s the name of the gps on your phone ?
Just called speedometer
have you done a review on the fafrees f20 ebike
No does it look good?
yes it`s a good looking bike a with a sub 1000 pound price tag@@e-VRC
Where's the follow up video on the Lankeleisi X3000 Max you said you were going to produce??
It's coming soon!
@@e-VRC Can you please comment on the fact that the Lankeleisi X3000 Max comes with two 20 Amp Controllers which seems way underrated for 2 x 1200 w peak motors, would love to hear your thoughts on this please.
Also a hybrid may have a higher bottom bracket height than a road bike, this increases the problem of getting your foot down if the saddle is far enough from the pedals for an efficient peddaling action.
Don't pedal with your insteps, put the ball of your foot over the pedal axle. Then not only will you be able to pedal far stronger for far longer but your shoe will not engage the front mudguard. I think that you may be instepping because your saddle is set way too low and you are unconsciously trying to dispose of excess leg length. A real cyclist will not be able to touch the ground with more than a tiptoe if they stay in the saddle when they stop, and not even that if the road is cambered. Always look for a kerb to put your foot on when you stop, or come down in front of the saddle when you stop.
anyone who actively bikes can easily go 25-30 mph on a regular bike so the fact that ebikes were every capped at 15-20mph baffles me lol.
Yeah it's mad. And annoying since a lot of them especially fat tyre or cheaper ones can be hard to pedal once the power cuts out.
What gets me is the go farther advertising plus the usual can do range... Eco mode=slow.
I don't drive and anxiety stopped me using public transport. I have an unexpected but necessary 356(r) mile road trip to make this year.
The would require 178 miles an over night charge and return. Could spend much less than a cheap ebike making sure my road bike could do it.
Well, there's a difference. While many people can achieve 25-30 mph, few can sustain it unless they have a road bike and/or are well-trained. The latter also implies they have experience on the roads, know how to read traffic and act appropriately and understand that even though you have right of way, you will still bear the worst consequences in the event of a crash. Additionally, e-bikes are typically heavier.
Those who purchase e-bikes here in Denmark are predominantly elderly people who otherwise would resort to public transport or travelling by car. Even with the restrictions on e-bike top speed, e-bikes are more commonly involved in traffic accidents.
@@am7265 A very sensible comment. Th elderly are poorly prepared for the increased speed of e-bikes. High visibility clothing would help. Even though I hate anything which stops people from adopting e-bikes. I believe there ought to be organised training schemes. Just as there is in Denmark for IC mopeds.
It's one of those laws that I just completely ignore for that reason alone. Why does it matter if someone is using a motor to go say 20-25mph versus using their legs. I've had genuinely legal ebikes before and they are so annoying to ride as you are constantly bouncing off the speed limiter and the motor cuts in and out, it's actually a rather unpleasant thing and distracted me from the ride due to the jolt every time my speed dropped below 15.5 for a split second🤣. My current bike is topping out around 35 it's done 3000 miles now so I might try and add a motor to the front wheel as well.
Still illegal if it can assist above 15.5mph, still illegal if the speed limit can be adjusted, so this is not a legal ebike
So basically most ebikes are illegal. What have we learned? It doesn't matter that much as long as people ride safe.
@@e-VRC most?, well, family members own 6 ebikes between them, about 10 friends own ebikes, all of them are legal ebikes, so easy to find them, you ask what does it matter, if you happen to be caught by the police (unlikely I accept) then you could be prosecuted for no insurance , no driving license ( if you don't have motorbike entitlement) plenty points to lose a driving license if you have one, and if you did injure someone and you're not insured they would own you
@dale-qz9dg most ebikes come locked to 15.5mph but are generally very easy to unlock. ALL ebikes are also more powerful than 250w. Brands are able to classify their bikes as 250w and the law is incredibly wooly when it comes to the power. If someone is riding safe on a bike that's sold as 250w and doesn't go over 15.5 then imo they have nothing to worry about. Remember that's what we're talking about here. A bike that's sold as 250 (and unlike some others isn't far off), has assistance up to 15.5 and has no throttle. Now if you left this comment on my pvy z20 plus or L20 reviews I'd totally understand but on this video...
@@dale-qz9dgYou do realise all these laws were passed without anyone in this country giving consent? You do realise you are bowing down to tyranny? Do you know why the government passes all these ridiculous laws? It's to make money from people. You've turned into a over sensitive snowflake who's offended by anyone and anything and you bow down to tyranny and obey dictatorship laws.
your foot is hitting the mud guard because your pedaling with the middle of your foot and not the ball of your foot. The ball of your foot is what you should be using.
I think I may have put that I was doing that in a caption but I may have just said 'I don't ride properly' or something 🤦
If you haul on the back brake full force with hydraulic brakes you can lock up the wheel very easily, especially in the gutter where there is often loose material and more moisture that rolls under your tyre and allows it to lock up. Don't blame the tyres, although they may be Chinese not German, learn to use hydraulic brakes. The tyres were so new, you may not have worn off any moulding glaze. If the arse end breaks away immediately release the brake a little and re-apply. Be wary of overuse of the front brake as that can send you over the handlebar, but about 40% of your braking effort should be on the front. The important thing is not to snatch the front brake, feed it in progressively if you can, by practice you develop a very good feel for what you can do when a myriad of potential SMIDSYs come a calling.
I think you are still misunderstanding some of the basic principles of how ebikes work here. That Motor is no different to any other 250w Motor. You're reaching 30mph on it because of your peddling which is easier on that Bike because it's lighter. How fast is it if you 'Ghost' pedal ? it certainly won't reach 30mph for sure.
Forget about this 250 watts thing, they all peak much higher. You could fit a 48v Battery to that Bike and providing the controller could handle it you would get 33% more speed, all 250w Ebike Motors will take a higher Voltage it's not the Volts that kills them it's the Amps.
You have to remember I'm trying to sell the video. As seen in the video without help the bike goes 20. I love that the bike easily gets to 30. A combination of light weight, gear ratio, thin tyres etc. So I'm talking about the mechanical, non electrical part of the bike.
Also remember that some ebikes make it extremely hard to pedal after the assistance cuts out due to motors with extra resistance (like direct drive or mid drive), fat tyres, heavy weight.
It's going 20mph because you're peddling it that's why you're breathing heavier than at rest. Ghost pedal and the speed will drop to 15.5, that's the law unless it's been derestricted by the manufacturer for the purposes of your demo. The bike's light so it's easier to push along even with only slight pressure on the pedals. That said I appreciate your honesty in commenting you are 'selling' the Video and therefore the bike itself, we just have to be clear that any Ebike will go faster than 15.5mph if you pedal fast. I can travel much faster on my bikes if i pedal like hell but then I'm only 75kg so a lightweight myself.@@e-VRC
@rossgreen4156 I'm actually not trying to sell the bike. Only the video. If people like the bike after the review then great. I was ghost pedalling when it got to 20. They often come derestricted both to me and to buyers. Again some ebikes struggle to get much over 17 when derestricted. They may be limited by the controller. Some '250w' ebikes have a 48v battery so much more actual power going through the motor. Bikes that are classed the same can be extremely different in performance.
Apologies in replying YT playing up at my end.@@e-VRC What i'm trying to point is as you know Ebikes in the UK are configured in such a way as to cut out assisting with power when your speed reaches 15.5mph, and no I don't like that stupid law either. Now if you have a bike that has been modified so as not to stop delivering power to the drive then it's against the Law to ride it on the road. It doesn't matter if it did arrive like that out of the box the responsibily lies with you not the supplier. Sooner or later you will get pulled by plod (it always happens) and there's not much point in saying you were not aware when you have all these Videos online.
Shame it doesn't have a throttle. They are so useful when pulling away and getting moving at low speed. Battery is lowish capacity, Cant see it getting 100KM
Yeah throttles are so useful. It helps that the assist kicks in so fast but I'd still prefer a throttle. But for people who want a legal option it's worth a look.
Yes, what would the lazy slobs do without a throttle? Oh, I know: They'd have to pedal! 🙄
Fuc- me I could ride 30mph without a battery?
Cheap components which will last 5 minutes, see if it performs the same in 12 months!
As a small channel ive mainly dealt with cheaper chinese brands. Overall I've seen a similar quality control to 'larger' brands that I've paid my own money for and also many many positive long term reports. Just don't trust the 'reviews' on their own websites 😬😬
I've abused the cheapest Chinese 2000w direct drive motor for a year now, it's constantly being pushed full throttle up hill, down hill you name it, ridden in the wet all through winter on these salty muddy roads. My drivetrain certainly isn't happy about it but the motor doesn't give a toss!. These components will be just fine they're only pushing like 500-600 watts at peak.
I've abused the cheapest Chinese 2000w direct drive motor for a year now, it's constantly being pushed full throttle up hill, down hill you name it, ridden in the wet all through winter on these salty muddy roads. My drivetrain certainly isn't happy about it but the motor doesn't give a toss!. These components will be just fine they're only pushing like 500-600 watts at peak.
You use miles per hour in the UK,how daft!
UK and the colonies are stuck on the fence mixing and matching imperial and metric 😂
If you want to publish bike reviews a little bit of cycling technique awareness would be helpful. You should learn how to place your feet on the pedals, thats why you are having a problem. That riding style is pretty inefficient. Move your feet backwards on pedals, your pedalling will improve dramatically and you will look less like you are riding a clown bike. Have a look at the way competitive riders use the pedals, it will help you.
Wouldn't it be wise to let people know that you can only achieve that speed by going downhill, definitely not on flat with that motor.
All the info is in the video. I wasn't going down hill. I was on the flat road I usually use to do speed tests where some more powerful bikes have barely made it to 30 with me out the saddle trying really hard. This time I was barely trying. If people watch the video they see at the very beginning it goes 20 without any effort. If people want to jump to any conclusions without watching the video then that's up to them.
@@e-VRC ok i understand it's just that I've never seen a 250 watt e bike hit 30mph unless going downhill. I totally enjoy your content so keep up the good work.
@@e-VRC That is interesting as well as potentially illegal. I ride a 28mph '45kph' road legal Moustache FS27 "Speed" e-bike. A legal 600Watts! Compulsory approved helmet! 3rd party insurance costs me £1000 per year! It is all but impossible to exceed that 28mph limit despite my fitness and Turbo mode. The Bosch Speed Line motor will not allow me to go any faster on the flat. Downhill speed is limited by my upright riding position. The cut-off at 28mph downhill, or on the flat, is very noticeable!
@@Tricyklistdude why are you actually paying that for insurance? I've done 3000 Miles in the past year all around my county and never had a problem from anybody. I can't imagine what a bicycle with a number plate on it looks like.
@@JudeTheRUclipsPoopersubscribe Number plates are required by law on the '45' Speed class in some European countries. Though not in Denmark. There are numerous other rules. Legal "Speed" '45kph' e-bikes cost far too much to have them confiscated by the police.
You are breaking the silly UK e-bike speed law. A small child on a kiddy's bike with stabilisers can manage 15mph. If you hit anybody while riding that thing you are liable and uninsured.
When it's bought it will be locked to 15.5. Halfords ebikes can all go over 15.5 if unlocked.
@@e-VRC Unlocking an e-bike is illegal. Making you a criminal and liable for any injury you cause. Possibly millions. You also invalidate any guarantee. Many cheap e-bikes won't have the brakes to cope with the higher speeds. The motors and gears can't cope for long either.
I've tried telling e-VRC about his responsibilities to his 8k + subs but he thinks it's all a joke. Fair enough, but it's just a matter of time before the law pounces. Pity really this could be a very informative channel...over to you Plod. @@Tricyklist
@@Technician4444 Like yourself I am a keen advocate of e-bikes. I want them to mature. Anything which the politicians can use to hinder progress towards that goal is a spoiler. RUclips reviewers and e-bike owners alike, have a responsibility in avoiding negativity towards these machines.
@@MKBx1 Well done! Unlocked, modified and chip tuned e-bikes may be ridden ONLY on private land with the permission of the landowner. No matter how skilled a rider may be they cannot foresee all possible risks. 👍
you not know how to set up the bike. Saddle too low and your feet nuff said.
Problem is everyone thinks I either need to get somewhere really fast or I want to be Bradley Wiggins. This is simply how I like to ride a bike. It's set up so I can ride it how I want it. Granted the hitting the mudguards issue won't be an issue for many people (great news!) but it's only happened to me on this bike and I merely commented on that fact. Great bike though 👍👍
Man these pre built ebikes are starting to become really good and really cheap... It's a lovely looking fast bicycle. Battery says 15amp discharge rate and im assuming the controller is a tiny below that so yeah this bike is gonna pull around 600 watts at peak, combined with the really lightweight it's no wonder it's quite quick.
The rider is by far the heaviest component of any e-bike. 😉
@@Tricyklist rider weight can be decreased (easier said than done lol) but bike can't do it's fairly important it's kept to a minimum. Mine is 11kg heavier than the bike in the video but it was an old mountain bike to begin with and the rear motor is a massive direct drive.
Yeah sometimes the 'normal' looking 250w bikes can be a bit unexciting but I was very impressed with this.
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@e-VRC just got one within 24h of payment, built it and took it for a spin. It sure is a quick responsive ebike.