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Also interesting to note that during the battle of Midway enemy planes didn't fly in a circle in front of allied forces waiting to be shot down and they didn't leave power ups to collect in the sky. Shocking I know
Another historical inaccuracy in AC: Syndicate is the fact that the carriage driving position is on the right. While this is true for modern cars in the UK, carriage drivers always sat on the left so they could use their right hand to whip the horses.
In 1961 the non white population of Great Britain was 2.3%. It would’ve been even more negligible when the game was set in the 1860s. A few non whtie characters included would’ve been cool I guess but the idea Britain was teeming with people of color at that time is absurd The video is just virtue signaling and pushing narrative 🤮
There being a very modern multicultiral metropolian society in late medieval bohemia is a silly thing. My mom who lived near in a rural village Rotterdam as a kid, on of the biggest harbor cities, said she only saw many foreigners after the abolishment of the colonies as many migrated to the Netherlands. This was around the 60's near a big port, a rural land locked medieval area having the same make up as modern London would be silly. (I know this is anekdotal but it's just to create a perspective)
Peter, Peter, Peter.. The M1 Motorway was only opened a few years before I was born. A UK version of The Oregon Trail would probably be best called "The Great North Road.." The main medieval highway between North and South in the UK. A route which is of course nowadays referred to as.. The A1. Close sir. But no cigar.
In the Seattle circuit in Gran Turismo 2, there is the old Seattle Mariners stadium, which was demolished the same year the game released, 1999. But there is no sign of the new stadium which would have already opened by then. In the following 2 games (which came out in 2001 and 2004 respectively), the new Mariners stadium is still under construction, while the old one remains standing.
@@OfficerGeorgeSewellagreed I don't even see colour or race yet I'm told by people that do that I'm the problem supposedly....no I just treat everybody actually equally.
@@mrdth1987 yeah but there's overdoing it I went to school in central London in the 80s we had 1 black kid 1 Asian family. But people who grew up after that think it was so much more because modern London this is just an observation but I can go a week in my local area not seeing another white guy on my street again no problem at all just people now didn't grow up in that world where we had 1 black kid on my entire estate in 1983 Peckham.
It's really helpful to notice that Call of Duty 1 lifts its portrayal of the Red Army almost directly from the film Enemy at the Gates. Which was pretty much not intended to be anything but a rad sniper duel movie.
Despite its flaws, BF1 actually got me hooked on learning more about WWI; during loading screens it would have little snippets of historical facts I kept googling only to find they were correct! Some of the team working on it actually took the time to at least try and balance the weapon tomfoolery with snapshots of reality, including with a few of the map locations... I may be a fanboy hehehe
@@sliderstandingby1892 no offense to anyone but they complain about something being accurate they should just keep to fantasy or sci-fi. History isn't PC nor should we water it down to be so.
@@8bitbee148 He doesn't cite anything historically innacurate, he's just morally indignant that 1403 Bohemia doesn't look like 2023 London. If your metric for diversity is "not white", the closest you'd get were central asian turkic people who are already represented in the game as Cuman mercenaries.
I fully recognize that this is pedantic, but "Pacific Theater" and "European Theater" are references to the entire region in which events are taking place, like the events in a play. It's not really a name for a specific area of the sea. History nerd. Can't help it. I'm sorry. Love your videos, especially Worst Games 😆
I love Battlefield 1 but im surprised they didn't go with the overall choice of weapons, and i don't mean the prototype weapons in game like the hellreigel, annihilator, or the Burton LMR. I mean that automatic weapons in general were not very common with the exception of stationary heavy machine guns. For most of WW1 nearly all soldiers from almost all sides were given some kind of bolt action rifle and it wasn't until the last few years when German shock troops with early smgs and Americans with shotguns really started diversifying the weapons. WW1 was bolt actions, emplaced HMGs and stationary artillery like 90% of the time
It is historically inaccurate to imply only Americans played Oregon Trail, it usually came packaged with Apple IIs supplied to schools throughout the Anglosphere.
Even considering Battlefield 1's inaccuracies, I still consider it the best FPS of all time. The atmosphere is unmatched, and it looks absolutely beautiful even today in 2023
If they made it historically accurate it would've been a bad game. They had to tweak some weapons to make them fun, otherwise they would've been boring, highly unaccurate pieces of metal.
Just because England had a lot of colonies doesn't mean people from these colonies visited England with regularity in an age where global travel was still very limited. Also the Kingdom Come Deliverance example you just basically admit that they're right and criticise them for defending themselves and even daring to make it in the first place. The Czech Republic is still extremely white NOW, why do you think it would have been more diverse then?
Cool video! There's easily enough material for follow up videos, I should think! RDR 1 and 2 has a few very interesting historical inaccuracies, for all their detail!
Not mentioning the inaccuracies of Battlefield 5 in its bonkers portrayal of front line female soldiers as purple haired prosthetic hook handed terminators I see…
Sometimes we have to remember that the hosts are the exact generation that got suckered into seeing nothing but peoples differences and making aggrandising normal
@@WhatwouldRoddyPiperdo Personally I would just not be an ineffectual pasty coward and live my life not going bezerk from seeing diversity in video games, but you do you babe.
all the call of duty crap about the red army in stalingrado was copied from the bizarre film named "Enemy at the Gates" (2001)..one of the most shitty films ever done .......the part of the boats crossing the volga river while being attacked by the junkers ju87 and then entering to stalingrado with no weapons but just bullets ??? ...just lol, also in the film the russian soldiers arrive by train from the other side of the Volga, something wrong since there are no train tracks on the east side of the Volga not even today
Remember the times when developers thought of the gamers as a human beings they should strive to please and create a decent game and story for? Not just a money sack to empty, a sad example of this is Bethesda, morrowind has the deepest lore in the series, but now just look at what they did with Fallout 76.
Black Flag had James/Mary Unity had Le Chevalier D'Éon In Syndicates era there was a thing called the Molly House where men would take a lover who dressed and behaved as a female but was a male. They even had mock marriage ceremonies. 1700s there was a girl named Hannah Snell who took the name James Grey and became a royal Marine, no-one was any the wiser she was a female. First female doctor that was British, Mary Bulkey was also from the 1700s and everyone thought she was James Barry until she died of dysentry. So not as inaccurate as you'd think
A lot of these open world historical games have the problem of projecting modernity onto it even outside of any diversity, especially with investigation sequences that portray the protagonists are expert forensic analysts and modern vernacular. Napoleon Bonaparte saying "Look me up" in Assassin's Creed Unity made me cringe a bit. I get that it can be hard to know how people spoke in different historical time periods and locations but come on.
tbf.... if you make a game highly historically accurate then it would not be a fun game. For example Battlefield 1. If you had to stay in the trenches then it would've been a boring game. Weapon handling would've been terrible and for example in Call of Duty World war 2 you always had to look through Iron sight, which would have been annoying. As for Assassins Creed... probably a thing, because nowadays you have to integrate every single culture. They would've been mad and kept B$$$ing about not beeing in there. Let's just say that Historically accurate often means boring videogames and I am totally fine with a little inaccurate.
I played the game Oregon Trail, but I didn't grow up in the 80s. The game had a DS port. Also, how has it never occurred to people that the 1 in the title of Battlefield 1 stands for World War 1, the game's setting?
I know why they didn't have loads of people from the English empire in syndicate.. that is one nest of vipers it was much easier to just rip out entirely rather than have kotaku go off at them for glamourising the empire or whatever
On Saturday the 2nd of September at 11am, TripleJump presents SMTJ Live! Join us on RUclips for a 2-hour spectacular filled to the brim with delightful nonsense including Rules Boss, Main Menu, art, a speed run attempt, special announcements, and a live gunging! Head to tripleju.mp/SMTJ to find out how YOU can get involved in the festivities. See you in September!
Speedruns with you guys are hilarious!
Did you really criticize Kingdom Come Deliverance because it was too historically accurate? Facts before feelings, kiddo.
Also interesting to note that during the battle of Midway enemy planes didn't fly in a circle in front of allied forces waiting to be shot down and they didn't leave power ups to collect in the sky.
Shocking I know
Another historical inaccuracy in AC: Syndicate is the fact that the carriage driving position is on the right. While this is true for modern cars in the UK, carriage drivers always sat on the left so they could use their right hand to whip the horses.
In 1961 the non white population of Great Britain was 2.3%. It would’ve been even more negligible when the game was set in the 1860s. A few non whtie characters included would’ve been cool I guess but the idea Britain was teeming with people of color at that time is absurd
The video is just virtue signaling and pushing narrative 🤮
Any WWII game "Contrary to what the game would have you believe, more countries than just America fought against the Nazi's and the Japanese"
No WWII gamr will ever have the soviets as the ones to actually defeat the nazis like actually happened irl.
Big if true
"Giant Enemy Crab"
First thing that came to my mind
It's Ridge Racer
riiigggeee Racer remember that one
There being a very modern multicultiral metropolian society in late medieval bohemia is a silly thing.
My mom who lived near in a rural village Rotterdam as a kid, on of the biggest harbor cities, said she only saw many foreigners after the abolishment of the colonies as many migrated to the Netherlands.
This was around the 60's near a big port, a rural land locked medieval area having the same make up as modern London would be silly.
(I know this is anekdotal but it's just to create a perspective)
How about Genji: Days of the Blade on PlayStation 3 and the giant enemy crabs appearing in the battles based on actual history.
Peter, Peter, Peter.. The M1 Motorway was only opened a few years before I was born. A UK version of The Oregon Trail would probably be best called "The Great North Road.." The main medieval highway between North and South in the UK. A route which is of course nowadays referred to as.. The A1.
Close sir. But no cigar.
Some of the radio music in Mafia 2 was also released after the game was set.
In the Seattle circuit in Gran Turismo 2, there is the old Seattle Mariners stadium, which was demolished the same year the game released, 1999. But there is no sign of the new stadium which would have already opened by then. In the following 2 games (which came out in 2001 and 2004 respectively), the new Mariners stadium is still under construction, while the old one remains standing.
Was not expecting to see Kingdome and Seattle Mariners trivia in the comments.
It's refreshing to see gamers complain that game isn't multicultural enough for historical accuracy.
I imagine it was more to do with Kotaku/Polygon than gamers.
@@OfficerGeorgeSewellagreed I don't even see colour or race yet I'm told by people that do that I'm the problem supposedly....no I just treat everybody actually equally.
Yeah but the narrator is right about 19th century he won't be right if he was talking about 15th century London.
@@mrdth1987 yeah but there's overdoing it I went to school in central London in the 80s we had 1 black kid 1 Asian family. But people who grew up after that think it was so much more because modern London this is just an observation but I can go a week in my local area not seeing another white guy on my street again no problem at all just people now didn't grow up in that world where we had 1 black kid on my entire estate in 1983 Peckham.
I'm just curious if any of the people who complained were actual black people.
I, for one, am shocked that a game set in Central Europe in the 15th century didn't have many black people in it.
There were lots of people if different cultures in Europe.
It's really helpful to notice that Call of Duty 1 lifts its portrayal of the Red Army almost directly from the film Enemy at the Gates. Which was pretty much not intended to be anything but a rad sniper duel movie.
enemy at the gates: the most bizarre movie of the history
Despite its flaws, BF1 actually got me hooked on learning more about WWI; during loading screens it would have little snippets of historical facts I kept googling only to find they were correct! Some of the team working on it actually took the time to at least try and balance the weapon tomfoolery with snapshots of reality, including with a few of the map locations... I may be a fanboy hehehe
I am little confused with Kingdom Come one. Is it on the list because it's too accurate?
No black people in a medieval europe game, so not accurate.....
@@MonkeyKingsformerroomate it's medieval Bohemia AKA Czechia. I have been to 21st century Czechia and there are hardly any black people.
@@mrdth1987 I know, I think that complaint came from white people looking for things to complain about
The point on this one seems to have been "it was accurate but we don't like what history was like".
@@sliderstandingby1892 no offense to anyone but they complain about something being accurate they should just keep to fantasy or sci-fi. History isn't PC nor should we water it down to be so.
>10 Massive Historical Inaccuracies In Video Games
>"Getting all the facts right shouldn't be a massive priority" 12:30
Gaming journalism moment
Yep soon as he said that I have to thumb down
? He’s saying if you’re not gonna even try to make it accurate, you shouldn’t make “historical accuracy” a huge part of your advertising
@@8bitbee148 He doesn't cite anything historically innacurate, he's just morally indignant that 1403 Bohemia doesn't look like 2023 London. If your metric for diversity is "not white", the closest you'd get were central asian turkic people who are already represented in the game as Cuman mercenaries.
This is a very interesting video TTJ & needs Part 2!
im surprised VANGUARD doesnt get any mention here
The whole of Battlefield 5
I was quite susceptible to dysentery and drowning as a child.
Anyone else really wanna have a go at dino d-day right now?
They ignored how accurate kingdom come deliverance is. May miss a few things, but overall it's very accurate
I fully recognize that this is pedantic, but "Pacific Theater" and "European Theater" are references to the entire region in which events are taking place, like the events in a play. It's not really a name for a specific area of the sea.
History nerd. Can't help it. I'm sorry.
Love your videos, especially Worst Games 😆
I love Battlefield 1 but im surprised they didn't go with the overall choice of weapons, and i don't mean the prototype weapons in game like the hellreigel, annihilator, or the Burton LMR. I mean that automatic weapons in general were not very common with the exception of stationary heavy machine guns. For most of WW1 nearly all soldiers from almost all sides were given some kind of bolt action rifle and it wasn't until the last few years when German shock troops with early smgs and Americans with shotguns really started diversifying the weapons. WW1 was bolt actions, emplaced HMGs and stationary artillery like 90% of the time
It is historically inaccurate to imply only Americans played Oregon Trail, it usually came packaged with Apple IIs supplied to schools throughout the Anglosphere.
Wasn't it on an Apple program called MACC?
Oxen apparently means bisons and cows as well (?)
1:14 Low blow man, low blow.
While I did indeed grow up in the 1980's, I didn't grow up in America. Which means I'm not old!
No P-38 Lightning took part in the Battle of Midway either!
Even considering Battlefield 1's inaccuracies, I still consider it the best FPS of all time. The atmosphere is unmatched, and it looks absolutely beautiful even today in 2023
If they made it historically accurate it would've been a bad game. They had to tweak some weapons to make them fun, otherwise they would've been boring, highly unaccurate pieces of metal.
Calling someone in their late 30s old is wild
How about a list of the top 10 video games so bad they forever changed the gaming industry?
If something offends you, it doesn't make it historically inaccurate.
No, russians didn't equip any good. Check history books.
Interfaith marriages also usually resulted in one spouse converting to the religion of the other (like Henri IV of France).
Just because England had a lot of colonies doesn't mean people from these colonies visited England with regularity in an age where global travel was still very limited. Also the Kingdom Come Deliverance example you just basically admit that they're right and criticise them for defending themselves and even daring to make it in the first place. The Czech Republic is still extremely white NOW, why do you think it would have been more diverse then?
Cool video! There's easily enough material for follow up videos, I should think! RDR 1 and 2 has a few very interesting historical inaccuracies, for all their detail!
The Journey Up M1 was pretty funny 🤣🤣
The animals you hunt are Buffalo, not Oxen.
Indeed. But oxen are pulling the wagons, which is what he is talking about.
Not mentioning the inaccuracies of Battlefield 5 in its bonkers portrayal of front line female soldiers as purple haired prosthetic hook handed terminators I see…
We don't speak of BFV
Sometimes we have to remember that the hosts are the exact generation that got suckered into seeing nothing but peoples differences and making aggrandising normal
@@WhatwouldRoddyPiperdo Personally I would just not be an ineffectual pasty coward and live my life not going bezerk from seeing diversity in video games, but you do you babe.
@@bigmac5252 You really dramatised the everloving shit out of an innocuous comment tell me you talk about politics 23 hours a day mate.
@@WhatwouldRoddyPiperdoLiterally most of your comments on this video are political screeching...
How is Battlefield V not on this list?
Laser guns in Call of Duty Vanguard hahaha & everything else in Vanguard.
Nearly spit my beer out when he went into the Englonics
Oregon Trail So Many Great Times I’ve Been Blessed To See All Of Gaming From 1980-Now
Why Do You Type Like This?
all the call of duty crap about the red army in stalingrado was copied from the bizarre film named "Enemy at the Gates" (2001)..one of the most shitty films ever done .......the part of the boats crossing the volga river while being attacked by the junkers ju87 and then entering to stalingrado with no weapons but just bullets ??? ...just lol, also in the film the russian soldiers arrive by train from the other side of the Volga, something wrong since there are no train tracks on the east side of the Volga not even today
It's Ridge Racer
riiigggeee Racer remember that one
Remember the times when developers thought of the gamers as a human beings they should strive to please and create a decent game and story for? Not just a money sack to empty, a sad example of this is Bethesda, morrowind has the deepest lore in the series, but now just look at what they did with Fallout 76.
Bruh, we have one of the best years in gaming right now, what are you talking about?
@@Accidental.Creation dude,I'm only seeing remakes for older titles, and better graphics, not better stories, personally i play for the plot
Fallout 76 is great these days tbh. Plenty of back story in it as well
@@Accidental.Creationtell me you're 12 without telling me you're 12
you say that like remakes are a bad thing. RE4 and Dead Space were awesome.@@mgk780
Al Gore rhythm
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3:25 Syndicate had a female woman that was dressed and talked like a man as an fbi agent😂 history
Black Flag had James/Mary
Unity had Le Chevalier D'Éon
In Syndicates era there was a thing called the Molly House where men would take a lover who dressed and behaved as a female but was a male. They even had mock marriage ceremonies.
1700s there was a girl named Hannah Snell who took the name James Grey and became a royal Marine, no-one was any the wiser she was a female.
First female doctor that was British, Mary Bulkey was also from the 1700s and everyone thought she was James Barry until she died of dysentry.
So not as inaccurate as you'd think
I don't see mentions of them being FBI though... @@cannibalbunnygirl
@@JukaDominator I don't see you being Mable Pines either but here we are...
I'm not sure how this comment is related to what I posted.@@cannibalbunnygirl
A lot of these open world historical games have the problem of projecting modernity onto it even outside of any diversity, especially with investigation sequences that portray the protagonists are expert forensic analysts and modern vernacular. Napoleon Bonaparte saying "Look me up" in Assassin's Creed Unity made me cringe a bit. I get that it can be hard to know how people spoke in different historical time periods and locations but come on.
tbf.... if you make a game highly historically accurate then it would not be a fun game. For example Battlefield 1. If you had to stay in the trenches then it would've been a boring game. Weapon handling would've been terrible and for example in Call of Duty World war 2 you always had to look through Iron sight, which would have been annoying.
As for Assassins Creed... probably a thing, because nowadays you have to integrate every single culture. They would've been mad and kept B$$$ing about not beeing in there.
Let's just say that Historically accurate often means boring videogames and I am totally fine with a little inaccurate.
I played the game Oregon Trail, but I didn't grow up in the 80s. The game had a DS port. Also, how has it never occurred to people that the 1 in the title of Battlefield 1 stands for World War 1, the game's setting?
The "you're old" joke is getting old.... you guys.... so hip.
Nah
Perfectly clicked on this with 69 likes..NICE
The voice over make my ears bleed
Assassins creed are you for real no one cares
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I know why they didn't have loads of people from the English empire in syndicate.. that is one nest of vipers it was much easier to just rip out entirely rather than have kotaku go off at them for glamourising the empire or whatever
Good old kotaku 😅
It's like show me on the doll where the kotaku touched you with guys like this.
@@raysravens52 kotaku is often pretty trash though. They do sometimes remind me of the Vice of gaming media world as well 😅
Kotaku is awful my man and they deserve the scorn. @@raysravens52
First time