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Notice how he gave not a SINGLE source which states that "Sid Meier's Pirates" and "Pirates of the Caribbeans" came out AFTER the first Sino-Japanese War. I know for a fact that Sid Meier's Pirates is very ancient since I played it when I was a child. I also read a twitter post saying that it was HUGE in Asia. I think it's an indisputable fact that the term "dwarf pirates" (giggles) was an affectionate nickname between friends and that Military History for Adults (if that is his real name) is merely trying to sow scorn by this fiendish piece of misinformation between ancient brothers at the behest of the Trump administration.
Interesting topics to cover: - Chinese (Qing) Modernisation attempt - Philippine Revolution (1896) I’d love to watch these, as well as all your vids. :)
They were at least three modernisation attempts. One after the second Opium war, other after the Sino-French war and a third after the first Sino-Japanese war.
Cute the Cutie My great-great-grandfather fought there. He was a Spanish conscript sent to Baler. He talked to my grandma when she was young about the war, and descreibed a fierce and difficult war. He also talked about "apples as big as watermelons" (mangoes)
@@frankseward7017 Umm this is about how other Asians, mainly Chinese and Koreans, still dislike the Japanese till today. Also, what you're probably thinking is about the Russo-Japanese War, where it was the very first Asian nation beating an actual European power. The Europeans have been wrecking China for a long time as well, so beating China isn't really seen as a huge feat for the Europeans.
Yeeesssss! I feel like I know so much about the European lead up to the war, it is always very interesting to learn about what else was happening around the world that is not covered as often in the standard history class.
In 1875 the Nanyang Fleet of the Imperial Chinese Navy made a visit to Japan and they were scared. Chinese navy was double the size of the Japanese, but lacked training and equipment. The Chinese battleships and cruisers had more than suficient firepower to deal with the Japanese cruisers theoretically, but their crews were raw conscripts and they ran out of ammunition in the middle of the battle. The Chinese fleet engaged on the Yellow Sea (called Northern Sea or Beiyang in Chinese) was the Beiyang fleet) which included about half the Chinese navy. At its peak in 1890, the Beiyang fleet had 2 battleships (of 2 China had), 2 heavy cruisers (of 3 China had), 6 light cruisers (of 12 China had) and about a third of the destroyers and smaller vessels, and during the war that fleet was almost anihilated (if I remember correctly, only 2 cruisers and 3-5 smaller vessels survived the war). China had several problems within its army. First, it was divided amongs several viceroyalties, each with a military leader (rank of marshall) asigned, and each acted independently for everything: tactics, strategy, logistics, acquisition of equipment... In general, the viceroyalty of Zhili (including Peking) was the most important military district when it comes to manpower and equipment. It gathered the Beiyang navy and the New Army, also called Beiyang Army, which did most of the fighting. It was fairly well equiped, but its leader was already too old (he was already a general when the Taiping Rebellion 50 years earlier). The Imperial Chinese Army had begun stablishing military arsenals in order to produce modern equipment (Type 88 Rifle, licensed version of the Mauser 1888), but that was rather recent, so only a fraction of the troops had received those weapons. Most troops had older Remington lever-action rifles bought in the 1870s, which were rather old. Also, China didn't have any railways so moving troops and equipment through the country was difficult. The officers were a mixture between old fashioned officers and a few experienced officers like Yuan Shikai, who even became Emperor.
In theory, yes, in the practice those viceroys did what they wanted. Specially given the fact that China was under a regency by that point, and the regent, Empress Dowager Cixí, wasn't a soldier but a politician. She was sort of like the real live equivalent to Cersei Lannister from GoT.
fazole They could but like the other guy said, China wasnt in the best state at the time. It had been in severe decline since the Opium Wars against Britain and hadn't had a decent military by any standard for years which really showed. Additionally the Chinese regional leaders had always had a habit of trying to size power for themselves if they saw an opportunity leading to some regional leaders disobeying orders ( A problem that is a constant throughout their history and which tends to foreshadow a dynasties downfall and a subsequent period of chaos until a leader brings the country back under imperial or Totalitarian control)
The coup against Guangxu was after the war, not during it, but yes on most things. About the Qing Imperial Armies, they had about three branches on land: the eight banners which were, as you said, a caste system. They were small units highly loyal but of limited value in the battlefield by that point. The green standarts, which were most of the forces, and were drafted and maintained by viceroyalties, and the local militias. The green standart, as you say, wasn't paid by the central government but by the local authorities, which meant they had five or six smaller armies without a standarized equipment instead of one big standarized army, which was one of the causes of the warlord era.
Calling them dwarf was an insult, but not pirate. During 14-15 century china's costline suffered heavily from pirate's raiding, which quite a number of them origin from Japan, so for most chinese at the time, that was their first impression towards Japanese. Also the character"寇”（ko) does not only means pirate, depending on the circumstances it could also means "bandits", "enemy" or "invaders".
MasterJawata There was that, but the dislike for the Japanese stemed longer than that. It was when the Chinese recieved word that a nation was formed in some distant islands and dared to proclaim their own emperor. The Chinese were infuriated by that action but since they were in a land that was separated from them by sea, they only cut their ties with the Japanese and labeled as barbarians for not ceding to the Chinese Emperor.
One thing to add :) The war didn't break out because of the sinking of the ship that carried Chinese troops, even though that was probably the trigger one week before war was formally declared. The issue was the treaty of Tientsin that was signed in 1885. It basically gave both, China and Japan, the instruction not to send any armed forces to Korea unless really necessary (for example as it was the case in 1894) and only upon notifying the other power and withdrawing the troops after the issues were settled. When the Tonghak rebellion broke out in Korea the government asked the Chinese troops for help, which arrived one month later while informing Japan. Japan saw that as a chance to send troops as well to protect their subjects in Korea as they claimed when in reality they had been preparing for war and were now strong enough to attack China.
Great video. Emperor Puyi (who on his late life became a contemporary historian) claimed that corruption on the Chinese logistics was an important problem.
Pretty much any war where the army just loots its supplies locally/foraging as it's moving through territory. Good example would be the Mongol invasions, but also some of the crusades and Alexander the Greats conquest of the Persian empire (I think Military History Visualized has an episode about the latter, tl;dv it's mostly about the logistics of fresh recruits and siege equipment to the army and loot from the army) But anything beyond that? Every army needs food. Without food, no fight. Without a fight, you can't win a war.
Honestly, I'm surprised the Chinese had anything resembling a modern fleet in the first place. Where the ships commissioned in Europe or bought as surplus? I can hardy imagine them being actually build in China.
the Chinese bought them, there is no limit in military gear and the Chinese can get anything brand new stuff. However the system and the command is disaster... note the failure of Chinese is not on the army side... it is the nation structure... the system is just not something ordinary westerners can understand, China is way too big, way too complicated... since 1840 the failure of China is deemed.... not until the Korea War did the Chinese way out of the fog of the shitty situation, by holding of the way more superior "UN"troop, with only light infantry
The Chinese appeared to believe simply by buying some battleships that they could win a sea battle. They didn't put much effort into training, and there was the perennial problem of nepotism and connections being used to appoint officers rather than ability or training. There are also stories of artillery shells being filled with sawdust! Something similar was going on in China just some years ago, where balconies were falling off of buildings due to lack of metal reinforcement and other shoddy practices.
the leadership think why they failed in 1840s to 1880s is because they lack the western style industry and military, though the true problem is the system can't cope with the time
They held the UN with huge advantage in light infantry numbers. They also had been uniquely inoculated against UN advantages because fighting the Nationalists had forced them to find ways of dealing with an enemy with an aerial advantage and who was better equipped. Where it failed was that the Red Army during the Civil War had learned that KMT troop would generally shatter into disordered retreat after a single big push. So the Red Army developed the infiltration - mass assault which worked to destroy KMT units. Against Americans these tactics were more costly. American troops would retreat in good order and kept fire discipline. This meant that PVA units were repeating the mass assaults. This led to huge casualties for them.
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Sid Meyer Pirate's! Yo ho ho! I remember playing a pirated version of pirates on floppy disk ms dos. You had to have a copy of the rulebook for the security question - where is the treasure fleet or the silver train in September 1660?
This is quite interesting when looking at woodblock prints of the era. Of course they depict the classical propaganda imagery of the period, but it seems that the idea of heroic soldiers winning glorious battles and braving the bitter cold are not so much to mask the poor combat performance, but rather to maks the results of Japan's poor logistical performance. This means that the image of heroic sacrifice may possibly have been conjured up mostly to bury stories of soldiers suffering from how unprepared Japan was for its swift victories. An interesting angle for further research.
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As Meiji Japan's first overseas war this conflict with China saw a huge upsurge in Japanese nationalism among politicians, journalists, artists and the public in general that the country never recovered from until 1945.
Great vid, thanks! Just a minor note, and you probably already noticed yourself - the key screen seems to not work well with that bright background, you seem to have a halo when moving the head.
Qingdao used to be a German concession back then. They opened a brewery there and after the WWII, the Chinese refurbished the plant and made beer called Tsingtao named after the town where German beer was introduced. The problem with China was slowness to reform. The Qing imperial court was so stuck in the old ways that they didn't adapt to modernization.
Do you know who named Sid Meier’s pirates? Robin Williams- no kidding. He was doing a set for the executives and was having a drink with them after. He overheard Sid Meier lament that he needed some way to set his pirate game apart from the rest. That’s when Robin Williams suggested adding Sid Meier’s name to the title. I’m a big fan of both
Can you talk about War Plan Red, and the preparation of the British to deal with it. Perhaps get Justin in on it as well. I feel like most of the literature around it over estimates the British naval ability considering their performance against Germany and their later carrier performance compared the US carrier performance. I'm not sure though and would like to hear what you have to say on the plans, and their expected outcomes.
Li Hongzhang was a competent militar leader, a veteran from the Taiping War and a brilliant diplomat. He was a Han chinese and the man for the Qing modernisation, leader of the Beiyang (Northern) Armed Forces, his achievements and power make some manchu nobles in the Imperial court jealous, Li was one of the Empress favourites. The ethnics and jealously were reaaly important, because as you said, the Imperial court make no effort for help Li's war effort and he knew that the japanese army was far better prepared, in the manchu nobility eyes...that was a task for a proper manchu prince rather than a chinese beaurecrat. At the end of the war, he finally achieve his objective and the european powers intervene (for the right price) and that was the seed for the russo japanese war...planted by Li Honghzhang. Here, Li is nogotiating with Bismarck i.pinimg.com/originals/0f/d8/e4/0fd8e43c8f499eb510184981e9957a2f.png And Here with Queen Victoria c8.alamy.com/comp/GK92X4/the-visit-of-li-hongzhang-to-britain-in-1896-where-he-was-presented-GK92X4.jpg
Yes, the problem was that he was too old. He was 70 years old when the war begun, and many tactical decisions were flawed. I think that if the Chinese had a younger and also competent commander, like Yuan Shikai or Duan Qirui, they could have won some important engagements. If I was in command of the Chinese forces, I would have made a defensive line (entrenched) on the Taedong river, and drew the conflict into a standstill until a settled peace could be made. All of this while using land supply routes. And of course, I would have the navy better equipped than they had.
Li was an army commander, he knew nothing about naval affairs. He didn't study in any naval school, didn't know English well enough to read naval magazines back then, and didn't hire anyone to even translate the newest naval books at his time for him. How could you expect someone so ignorant who thought everything could just be solved by pouring in money to win?
Again, a brilliant video. I’m not sure why some people seem to want to moan about them ... oh, sorry, yes I do ... it’s because they have not got a creative bone in their bodies and want to hit at anyone who has. Keep up the great work.
A couple of points: 1. The abilities of Chinese armies is all over the place. They did badly against the British in the Opium wars and against the Japanese in the first Sino-Japanese war, but they did quite a bit better against the French in the south. So they could fight well against advanced opponents when properly motivated, led, and equipped. 2. Actually, only the northern Chinese fleet was destroyed in the first Sino-Japanese war. The southern Chinese fleet refused to join the war in support of the northern fleet because years earlier, the northern fleet had not supported the southern fleet when the southern fleet was fighting the French as mentioned above. Don’t know if it would have made a difference if both Chinese fleets had fought the Japanese together. Maybe the southern fleet would also have been destroyed, or maybe it had its act together better.
It's me again, nitpicking as always: 00:08 "whom send it to me" should be "who sent it to me." "Wem/wen es mir gesendet hat" doesn't make much sense, does it?
To follow: The Russo-Japanese war, which taught the West that if one just throws enough men at heavy machine guns, one will win the war. See: the Battle of the Somme.
It wasn't paid attention to. There's a great book about the Siege of Port Arthur written in 1906 by a British journalist embedded with the Japanese. Everything about trenches, machine guns, and artillery.... it's all there in 1905. The Russo Japanese war though was missing three things relative to WW1. 1) the defense in depth and 2) poison gas and 3) airplanes
There were Western military observers during the Russo-Japanese war. They noted the slaughter of the Japanese troops, but they also noted the success of the Japanese.
Actually they thought a war would be like Manchruian campaign which was a maneuver warfare. But they were mistaken. It turned out like siege of Porth Arthur.
And speaking of Port Arthur. During the Japanese occupation many Chinese civilian were kill by the Japanese troops which was recorded by an American journalist name James Cleman(詹姆斯·克里曼)
Very nice informative video but the akward pauses during some sentences put me a bit off.. like I am supposed to hear anothing sentence but it was actually the end of the sentence.
234jari234 that will be because English isn’t his first language. I think he does a brilliant job. How about instead of slagging off someone’s work, you just didn’t bother watching. Your comment doesn’t actually help in any way does it. Try just being a little nicer to people for a day, it might shock you.
In no way, shape or form did I discredit his video nor the information in it. I'm pointing out that the pauses between some sentences are akward. This just means there is room for improvement for an allready "Very nice informative video".
The year is now 1899 And Russia builds their railroad, supervised by a shit ton of soldiers. And then when the railroad was done they downgraded to a fuck ton. Did I say downgrade? I meant upgrade. And Japan says: JAPAN: Can you maybe chill? And Russia says: RUSSIA: How about maybe you chill?
Kuintin Ansy - I work with a lot of people your age on a regular basis. I can assure you that a teenager who is focused on improving his/her mind can be FAR more mature than the middle-aged overgrown children who are my neighbors.
Ich liebe Ihre Videos, aber dieses hier scheint mir ein bisschen schlecht vorbereitet zu sein (von Skript her), sie scheinen den Faden oft zu verlieren (was sonst nie der Fall bei Ihnen ist). Den noch gutes Video und ein "thumb up".
If you're looking for topics to discuss, consider "friendly fire incidents". E.g., 1943 July 11 -- Gela, Sicily -- the U.S. Navy shot down U.S. planes carrying the 504th Parachute Infantry because the Navy thought that the planes were enemy bombers. 318 dead or wounded. www.americainwwii.com/articles/friendly-fires-deadliest-day/
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Speaking of 19th century, have you ever tried Victoria 2?
yeah, I sucked at it and then started playing HOI 3, both in 2014 (a bit late I know).
having the same issue, and not just with this channel
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Deleted my comment, it's normal again.
Dude you know your history like me yous cool hommie ✌️.
Notice how he gave not a SINGLE source which states that "Sid Meier's Pirates" and "Pirates of the Caribbeans" came out AFTER the first Sino-Japanese War. I know for a fact that Sid Meier's Pirates is very ancient since I played it when I was a child. I also read a twitter post saying that it was HUGE in Asia. I think it's an indisputable fact that the term "dwarf pirates" (giggles) was an affectionate nickname between friends and that Military History for Adults (if that is his real name) is merely trying to sow scorn by this fiendish piece of misinformation between ancient brothers at the behest of the Trump administration.
Dear god... my eyes were opened... It all makes perfect sense now.
Also, notice how he just "happened" to receive an "anonymous" book explaining all this.
We're through the looking glass right now, people.
is your first name evan
Can we copyright strike Sid Meyer?
Iluminati confirmed
This is a great video!! Look forward to hopefully seeing more videos on the 19th century!
Interesting topics to cover:
- Chinese (Qing) Modernisation attempt
- Philippine Revolution (1896)
I’d love to watch these, as well as all your vids. :)
They were at least three modernisation attempts. One after the second Opium war, other after the Sino-French war and a third after the first Sino-Japanese war.
Podemos URSS Why not all?
Philippine Revolution is mostly guerilla tactics. Not much to talk about
Cute the Cutie Do you even know Philippine history
Cute the Cutie My great-great-grandfather fought there. He was a Spanish conscript sent to Baler. He talked to my grandma when she was young about the war, and descreibed a fierce and difficult war. He also talked about "apples as big as watermelons" (mangoes)
My power wacuum is a Dyson.
Wait 'till your battery dies...
Thanks for covering this. People don't realize these events culminated in WW2 and even today affects east Asian relations and cultures.
fazole This video was before WW1 but yes, it did set the stage for the 2nd Sino-Japanese War during WW2 which would then result into Pearl Harbor
@@madensmith7014 it set the stage fir the end of European dominance gor 500 years. Japan dominated China in the war and became a respected power.
@@frankseward7017 Umm this is about how other Asians, mainly Chinese and Koreans, still dislike the Japanese till today.
Also, what you're probably thinking is about the Russo-Japanese War, where it was the very first Asian nation beating an actual European power. The Europeans have been wrecking China for a long time as well, so beating China isn't really seen as a huge feat for the Europeans.
Well it all started with a bloke named Charlemagne…
Yeeesssss! I feel like I know so much about the European lead up to the war, it is always very interesting to learn about what else was happening around the world that is not covered as often in the standard history class.
By "the war" I mean the Great War, it's cool learning how the world go to where it is today
Excellent video! This was very well researched and you mentioned very good details! You have a very good use of sources too!
Thanks for the synopsis.
In 1875 the Nanyang Fleet of the Imperial Chinese Navy made a visit to Japan and they were scared. Chinese navy was double the size of the Japanese, but lacked training and equipment. The Chinese battleships and cruisers had more than suficient firepower to deal with the Japanese cruisers theoretically, but their crews were raw conscripts and they ran out of ammunition in the middle of the battle.
The Chinese fleet engaged on the Yellow Sea (called Northern Sea or Beiyang in Chinese) was the Beiyang fleet) which included about half the Chinese navy. At its peak in 1890, the Beiyang fleet had 2 battleships (of 2 China had), 2 heavy cruisers (of 3 China had), 6 light cruisers (of 12 China had) and about a third of the destroyers and smaller vessels, and during the war that fleet was almost anihilated (if I remember correctly, only 2 cruisers and 3-5 smaller vessels survived the war).
China had several problems within its army. First, it was divided amongs several viceroyalties, each with a military leader (rank of marshall) asigned, and each acted independently for everything: tactics, strategy, logistics, acquisition of equipment... In general, the viceroyalty of Zhili (including Peking) was the most important military district when it comes to manpower and equipment. It gathered the Beiyang navy and the New Army, also called Beiyang Army, which did most of the fighting. It was fairly well equiped, but its leader was already too old (he was already a general when the Taiping Rebellion 50 years earlier). The Imperial Chinese Army had begun stablishing military arsenals in order to produce modern equipment (Type 88 Rifle, licensed version of the Mauser 1888), but that was rather recent, so only a fraction of the troops had received those weapons. Most troops had older Remington lever-action rifles bought in the 1870s, which were rather old. Also, China didn't have any railways so moving troops and equipment through the country was difficult.
The officers were a mixture between old fashioned officers and a few experienced officers like Yuan Shikai, who even became Emperor.
Could the emperor or empress of China give the viceroys military orders?
In theory, yes, in the practice those viceroys did what they wanted. Specially given the fact that China was under a regency by that point, and the regent, Empress Dowager Cixí, wasn't a soldier but a politician. She was sort of like the real live equivalent to Cersei Lannister from GoT.
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They could but like the other guy said, China wasnt in the best state at the time. It had been in severe decline since the Opium Wars against Britain and hadn't had a decent military by any standard for years which really showed. Additionally the Chinese regional leaders had always had a habit of trying to size power for themselves if they saw an opportunity leading to some regional leaders disobeying orders ( A problem that is a constant throughout their history and which tends to foreshadow a dynasties downfall and a subsequent period of chaos until a leader brings the country back under imperial or Totalitarian control)
The coup against Guangxu was after the war, not during it, but yes on most things.
About the Qing Imperial Armies, they had about three branches on land: the eight banners which were, as you said, a caste system. They were small units highly loyal but of limited value in the battlefield by that point. The green standarts, which were most of the forces, and were drafted and maintained by viceroyalties, and the local militias.
The green standart, as you say, wasn't paid by the central government but by the local authorities, which meant they had five or six smaller armies without a standarized equipment instead of one big standarized army, which was one of the causes of the warlord era.
Remington made lever action rifles?
Calling them dwarf was an insult, but not pirate. During 14-15 century china's costline suffered heavily from pirate's raiding, which quite a number of them origin from Japan, so for most chinese at the time, that was their first impression towards Japanese. Also the character"寇”（ko) does not only means pirate, depending on the circumstances it could also means "bandits", "enemy" or "invaders".
MasterJawata There was that, but the dislike for the Japanese stemed longer than that. It was when the Chinese recieved word that a nation was formed in some distant islands and dared to proclaim their own emperor. The Chinese were infuriated by that action but since they were in a land that was separated from them by sea, they only cut their ties with the Japanese and labeled as barbarians for not ceding to the Chinese Emperor.
@Akin Khoo Tenno means Heavenly Emperor
One thing to add :) The war didn't break out because of the sinking of the ship that carried Chinese troops, even though that was probably the trigger one week before war was formally declared. The issue was the treaty of Tientsin that was signed in 1885. It basically gave both, China and Japan, the instruction not to send any armed forces to Korea unless really necessary (for example as it was the case in 1894) and only upon notifying the other power and withdrawing the troops after the issues were settled. When the Tonghak rebellion broke out in Korea the government asked the Chinese troops for help, which arrived one month later while informing Japan. Japan saw that as a chance to send troops as well to protect their subjects in Korea as they claimed when in reality they had been preparing for war and were now strong enough to attack China.
China: "Is this loss?"
Japanese were actually doing Swords and Sandals Role play
Great video. Emperor Puyi (who on his late life became a contemporary historian) claimed that corruption on the Chinese logistics was an important problem.
Is there any war in history where the impact of logistics isn't huge?
Personally, I doubt it.
In this war what impacted was the lack of logistics. The Japanese logistics look like a well Swiss watch when compared to the Chinese logistics.
Pretty much any war where the army just loots its supplies locally/foraging as it's moving through territory.
Good example would be the Mongol invasions, but also some of the crusades and Alexander the Greats conquest of the Persian empire (I think Military History Visualized has an episode about the latter, tl;dv it's mostly about the logistics of fresh recruits and siege equipment to the army and loot from the army)
But anything beyond that? Every army needs food. Without food, no fight. Without a fight, you can't win a war.
Great video!
Honestly, I'm surprised the Chinese had anything resembling a modern fleet in the first place. Where the ships commissioned in Europe or bought as surplus? I can hardy imagine them being actually build in China.
The Chinese purchased them from the UK and Germany. Both battleships present were German-built.
the Chinese bought them, there is no limit in military gear and the Chinese can get anything brand new stuff. However the system and the command is disaster... note the failure of Chinese is not on the army side... it is the nation structure... the system is just not something ordinary westerners can understand, China is way too big, way too complicated... since 1840 the failure of China is deemed.... not until the Korea War did the Chinese way out of the fog of the shitty situation, by holding of the way more superior "UN"troop, with only light infantry
The Chinese appeared to believe simply by buying some battleships that they could win a sea battle. They didn't put much effort into training, and there was the perennial problem of nepotism and connections being used to appoint officers rather than ability or training. There are also stories of artillery shells being filled with sawdust! Something similar was going on in China just some years ago, where balconies were falling off of buildings due to lack of metal reinforcement and other shoddy practices.
the leadership think why they failed in 1840s to 1880s is because they lack the western style industry and military, though the true problem is the system can't cope with the time
They held the UN with huge advantage in light infantry numbers. They also had been uniquely inoculated against UN advantages because fighting the Nationalists had forced them to find ways of dealing with an enemy with an aerial advantage and who was better equipped.
Where it failed was that the Red Army during the Civil War had learned that KMT troop would generally shatter into disordered retreat after a single big push. So the Red Army developed the infiltration - mass assault which worked to destroy KMT units. Against Americans these tactics were more costly. American troops would retreat in good order and kept fire discipline. This meant that PVA units were repeating the mass assaults. This led to huge casualties for them.
"Well, thats not particularly nice, its way less than nice." - Bernhard Kast, 2018
lol, was this about the Chinese calling the Japanese pirates or something?
@@MilitaryHistoryNotVisualized yes, how come you decided to reply to a comment on a video from 2018? You must get hundreds of notifications each day
It is early in the video
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Sid Meyer Pirate's! Yo ho ho! I remember playing a pirated version of pirates on floppy disk ms dos. You had to have a copy of the rulebook for the security question - where is the treasure fleet or the silver train in September 1660?
I’ve been reading more about history books topsoil thanks for this new book to read!
This is quite interesting when looking at woodblock prints of the era. Of course they depict the classical propaganda imagery of the period, but it seems that the idea of heroic soldiers winning glorious battles and braving the bitter cold are not so much to mask the poor combat performance, but rather to maks the results of Japan's poor logistical performance. This means that the image of heroic sacrifice may possibly have been conjured up mostly to bury stories of soldiers suffering from how unprepared Japan was for its swift victories. An interesting angle for further research.
Hi mein Freund, das Buch habe ich Dir bestellt am 24.05 und es ist am 02.06 bei Dir angekommen. War keine Absicht, dass kein Absender drauf war. Gibt ja nichts zu verheimlichen. Nur ein kleines Dankeschön für deine sehr gut recherchierten Videos. Grüße Christian
Danke!
Military History for Adults Sehr gerne. Grüße auch von meiner Frau Anna. Über ihren Account habe ich das versendet. Sie hat sich über deine zwei Danksagungen sehr gefreut!
Grateful for you buying him a book on such an awesome topic
As Meiji Japan's first overseas war this conflict with China saw a huge upsurge in Japanese nationalism among politicians, journalists, artists and the public in general that the country never recovered from until 1945.
So what you're saying is... When the japanese had to perform under actual combat conditions, it was a "shamefur dispray"?
Great vid, thanks!
Just a minor note, and you probably already noticed yourself - the key screen seems to not work well with that bright background, you seem to have a halo when moving the head.
In 1894 war in lombok between dutch east indies vs balinese, also known tjakranegara war :-)
Qingdao used to be a German concession back then. They opened a brewery there and after the WWII, the Chinese refurbished the plant and made beer called Tsingtao named after the town where German beer was introduced. The problem with China was slowness to reform. The Qing imperial court was so stuck in the old ways that they didn't adapt to modernization.
Make a video about the Spanish-American war please...
Do you know who named Sid Meier’s pirates?
Robin Williams- no kidding. He was doing a set for the executives and was having a drink with them after. He overheard Sid Meier lament that he needed some way to set his pirate game apart from the rest. That’s when Robin Williams suggested adding Sid Meier’s name to the title.
I’m a big fan of both
Are you german? Ive been watching your channel for a long time and love it. I was always wondering.
Austria
Can you talk about War Plan Red, and the preparation of the British to deal with it. Perhaps get Justin in on it as well. I feel like most of the literature around it over estimates the British naval ability considering their performance against Germany and their later carrier performance compared the US carrier performance. I'm not sure though and would like to hear what you have to say on the plans, and their expected outcomes.
Li Hongzhang was a competent militar leader, a veteran from the Taiping War and a brilliant diplomat. He was a Han chinese and the man for the Qing modernisation, leader of the Beiyang (Northern) Armed Forces, his achievements and power make some manchu nobles in the Imperial court jealous, Li was one of the Empress favourites. The ethnics and jealously were reaaly important, because as you said, the Imperial court make no effort for help Li's war effort and he knew that the japanese army was far better prepared, in the manchu nobility eyes...that was a task for a proper manchu prince rather than a chinese beaurecrat.
At the end of the war, he finally achieve his objective and the european powers intervene (for the right price) and that was the seed for the russo japanese war...planted by Li Honghzhang.
Here, Li is nogotiating with Bismarck i.pinimg.com/originals/0f/d8/e4/0fd8e43c8f499eb510184981e9957a2f.png
And Here with Queen Victoria c8.alamy.com/comp/GK92X4/the-visit-of-li-hongzhang-to-britain-in-1896-where-he-was-presented-GK92X4.jpg
Yes, the problem was that he was too old. He was 70 years old when the war begun, and many tactical decisions were flawed. I think that if the Chinese had a younger and also competent commander, like Yuan Shikai or Duan Qirui, they could have won some important engagements. If I was in command of the Chinese forces, I would have made a defensive line (entrenched) on the Taedong river, and drew the conflict into a standstill until a settled peace could be made. All of this while using land supply routes. And of course, I would have the navy better equipped than they had.
Li was an army commander, he knew nothing about naval affairs. He didn't study in any naval school, didn't know English well enough to read naval magazines back then, and didn't hire anyone to even translate the newest naval books at his time for him. How could you expect someone so ignorant who thought everything could just be solved by pouring in money to win?
...but Russia still lost
7:50 typo error there dude, you wrote bet instead of but. Good video though.
Was five minutes in when I remembered what war I was learning about...
Yuki no shingun
How many wire houses were established in Japan by 1894-1895?
I too want to land near Porrhaatha
Again, a brilliant video. I’m not sure why some people seem to want to moan about them ... oh, sorry, yes I do ... it’s because they have not got a creative bone in their bodies and want to hit at anyone who has. Keep up the great work.
Thank you
A couple of points:
1. The abilities of Chinese armies is all over the place. They did badly against the British in the Opium wars and against the Japanese in the first Sino-Japanese war, but they did quite a bit better against the French in the south. So they could fight well against advanced opponents when properly motivated, led, and equipped.
2. Actually, only the northern Chinese fleet was destroyed in the first Sino-Japanese war. The southern Chinese fleet refused to join the war in support of the northern fleet because years earlier, the northern fleet had not supported the southern fleet when the southern fleet was fighting the French as mentioned above. Don’t know if it would have made a difference if both Chinese fleets had fought the Japanese together. Maybe the southern fleet would also have been destroyed, or maybe it had its act together better.
what an accent! good video
Please add more maps.
How could Russia get Germany and France to cooperate, especially on this of all things?
CreatorUser it s like the british-french intervention of crimea..
Balance of power in Asia.
You are really starting to look like Ragnar Lothbrook.....the viking.
As opposed to Ragnar Lothbrook, the orthopedic surgeon. ;P
Hippidy-hoppidy Korea is now my property
It's me again, nitpicking as always: 00:08 "whom send it to me" should be "who sent it to me." "Wem/wen es mir gesendet hat" doesn't make much sense, does it?
Klobi for President you need to get out more often.
Nah. :P
To follow: The Russo-Japanese war, which taught the West that if one just throws enough men at heavy machine guns, one will win the war. See: the Battle of the Somme.
It wasn't paid attention to. There's a great book about the Siege of Port Arthur written in 1906 by a British journalist embedded with the Japanese. Everything about trenches, machine guns, and artillery.... it's all there in 1905.
The Russo Japanese war though was missing three things relative to WW1.
1) the defense in depth and 2) poison gas and 3) airplanes
There were Western military observers during the Russo-Japanese war. They noted the slaughter of the Japanese troops, but they also noted the success of the Japanese.
Actually they thought a war would be like Manchruian campaign which was a maneuver warfare. But they were mistaken. It turned out like siege of Porth Arthur.
And speaking of Port Arthur. During the Japanese occupation many Chinese civilian were kill by the Japanese troops which was recorded by an American journalist name James Cleman(詹姆斯·克里曼)
Pls add Subtitles.
He looks like valero the soccer player
Turtle Face soccer, you meen Fußball?
Chang would oftenly write in his diary about how midget pirates bullied him in the day.
#MakeHistoryGreatAgain
Very nice informative video but the akward pauses during some sentences put me a bit off.. like I am supposed to hear anothing sentence but it was actually the end of the sentence.
234jari234 that will be because English isn’t his first language. I think he does a brilliant job. How about instead of slagging off someone’s work, you just didn’t bother watching. Your comment doesn’t actually help in any way does it. Try just being a little nicer to people for a day, it might shock you.
In no way, shape or form did I discredit his video nor the information in it. I'm pointing out that the pauses between some sentences are akward. This just means there is room for improvement for an allready "Very nice informative video".
The year is now 1899
And Russia builds their railroad, supervised by a shit ton of soldiers. And then when the railroad was done they downgraded to a fuck ton. Did I say downgrade? I meant upgrade.
And Japan says:
JAPAN: Can you maybe chill?
And Russia says:
RUSSIA: How about maybe you chill?
I watch military history for adults and am not an adult , I committed a crime , I violated the terms of the treaty
Well, I am 15 and I love these videos, but guessing off the name I gotta leave. Oh well.
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It's about the state of mind and interest, not age.
Military History for Adults I understand, was just poking fun haha.
Kuintin Ansy - I work with a lot of people your age on a regular basis. I can assure you that a teenager who is focused on improving his/her mind can be FAR more mature than the middle-aged overgrown children who are my neighbors.
Ich liebe Ihre Videos, aber dieses hier scheint mir ein bisschen schlecht vorbereitet zu sein (von Skript her), sie scheinen den Faden oft zu verlieren (was sonst nie der Fall bei Ihnen ist). Den noch gutes Video und ein "thumb up".
korrekt, hatte fast ne Woche zwischen den Kern-Punkten und dem Vortrag dazwischen "Pause", die relativ anstregend war.
If you're looking for topics to discuss, consider "friendly fire incidents".
E.g., 1943 July 11 -- Gela, Sicily -- the U.S. Navy shot down U.S. planes carrying the 504th Parachute Infantry because the Navy thought that the planes were enemy bombers. 318 dead or wounded. www.americainwwii.com/articles/friendly-fires-deadliest-day/
Manchuku!
Pirates were not cool then lol!! too funny.
Third
being Austrian you will never speak proper german.