hey I just found your channel a bit ago with your Bo Burnham video, and found it most excellent. Ive been recommending you to comrades ever since, keep it up! (if ya want to lol) !
Aaaaaah how happy I was to see your face here. As others have said, it feels amazing to see adjacent creators in each others’ spaces. Keep doing everything you’re doing as long as it works for you!
Some advice I remember: People rarely change their minds "in public". They're more likely to do so long after your conversation with them. So not seeing an immediate change of mind is not necessarily a failure.
idk if you've heard of him, but Beau of the Fifth Column makes excellent anarchist content and one saying he's fond of is "the truth can't be told, it has to be realized"
100%. Talking to people is productive even if you don't witness it. If the conversation is good certain questions will stay with them and they'll reflect about it by themselves in the future either of their own will or when they're confronted again with something that relates to the subject you talked about. Always talk to people without any expectation that they'll just admit to their defeat. Do it with a bit of faith that in the long run it may make a difference.
In the case of the United States, I have found one of the most helpful methods of talking to people who may even consider themselves to be conservative is to appeal to either their or your shared history and the political culture (an extension of "know your audience"). In the United States we pride ourselves on being the first Republic of European/European descended nations, and along with that comes the buzz words of democracy. When talking politics with these friends it is quite effective to talk about the history of farmer co-ops, and coal miner's unions, or to equate the modern work place with that of a petty kingdom. I have gotten friends whose only praise of "Muslim society" is their insistence of modest femininity shifted over towards the replacement of corporations with cooperatives. It is also important to give a solution. I live at a university, and just across the street exists a store owned by the uni called "The Co-Op", in addition to several housing co-ops not affiliated with the uni. To explain the horrors of capitalism and to then be able to simply point to the model I prefer. "For you the consumer it is no different. For you the employee, you go from serf to citizen; a participant in the democracy of you job."
This so much. This is how I have been swaying many of my conservative family members. Quoting authors and theory is far less effective than starting from their perspective and leading them out.
@@TakeV Starting from their perspective is a good idea, but if they start asking "Why?", "Can you elaborate?", or even the dreaded, "How is what you are proposing going to work?", then I think that is when quoting authors and theory is a means of convincing people
Yessiah, bredda 🙏🏾 talk da tings! I’ve found that one thing that the right side of the spectrum focuses on is monopolizes the airwaves. Rush Limbaugh dem (rest he soul even tho he don’t deserve no best wishes) used to be all up in truckers dem ear from dawn till dusk essentially entrenching people deeper into those echo chambers. We need to have content that communicates our values in ways that are as effective so that we can mobilize.
Could you make a video exploring suburbs/small town organizing? I’m trying my best, connecting with any other anarchists by helping to run a food not bombs, but the isolation inherent in the suburbs makes it hard to find people and sustain a community. On top of that, I find so many anarchist resources are geared towards cities. Thanks.
living in one of the most remote places in France, I did notice that the local alternative communities have gained much traction from selling their products in farmer's markets and promoting some of their magazines there. When people depend on you for food, it's harder to kick you out.
One of my biggest flaws is that I often shy away from engaging in conversations with people out of fear of being wrong. It's something I've internalized from my time in school.
I think music, art & film has always been some of the most effective mediums and can tend to be ignored. In that sense I always lament our departure from Rapso music as a significant part of our cultural identity.
Man, what a coincidence that modern popular music is created and filtered by corporations and guaranteed to succeed by a combination of exploiting human psychology and their affiliation with radio stations, effectively allowing for the pseudo-censorship and de-radicalization of media discourse.
A specific tactic that I’ve found pretty useful is using the phrase “libertarian socialist” rather than “anarchist”. There are a lot of misconceptions about anarchism, and dispelling all of those can be pretty frustrating. On the other hand a lot of people aren’t really familiar with the term “libertarian socialism”, and on top of that believe that socialism just means state ownership. So if you introduce yourself as a libertarian socialist, they’re gonna ask what that means, and then you can open up a dialogue without as many misconceptions right out the gate.
@@belkyhernandez8281 that’s true of so-called anarcho-capitalism (which isn’t anarchist anyways) but true anarchism eliminates all means through which power can be accumulated, and so removes that as a threat.
If you're deeply immersed in online politics do your best to get unimmersed. If we can't meet folks where they are we can't do anything at all. This online discourse is largely incredibly removed from the day to day of real people and I can't stand being in online spaces cause I legit don't even know what people are talking about half the time and find their positions to be completely ridiculous a lotta the time.
my gf got tied in with breadtube, and shes always fustrated by this. Shes kept herself distant, and now we are working on our own stuff/finding a local community. she hates that all shes known for is being trans on breadtube, and not her actual ideas.
I've started to include anarchist thought and an anrchist vision of the future into a fanfiction story i write about my favorite sci-fi show, Doctor Who. Time travel stories are great for introducing anarchism. I haven't actually published any chapters yet but if you like, I can put a link here once it's finished. I'm very interested in how I could improve getting the message across.
Every one of your videos is solid, inspiring, and motivating. You always get me thinking clearly again through the taught-helplessness of capitalist propaganda. Grateful for the work you do 💪
When you said '...as the machine pushes itself down our throats...' I immediately responded with 'ugh, I hate it,' then laughed seconds later because I'm also someone who's about to secure their bachelor's in Communication Studies Glad I found your channel!
I agree with the idea that utopian literature is highly underserved. The focus on dystopian literature, especially as young adult literature to the exclusion of all other forms of futurism is extremely damaging. It creates tremendous hopelessness when all of the visions of the future that one reads are negative. However I would push back on the idea that dystopian literature is unnecessary. Partially because I feel that labeling any art as unnecessary is a poor attitude towards art. And also because I would argue that presenting both something to fight against as well as something to fight for is a valuable approach. I think dystopian literature is vastly over represented. But I don’t think it has no purpose.
Well from a storytelling perspective dystopia is more interesting because a utopia will either lack meaningful conflict in certain areas (a solarpunk utopia isn't worried about climate change so the story'll be about something else) or it's not a utopia. Not to gatekeep or say you can't write a story with a solarpunk setting. Go ahead. But maybe you want a setting that emphasises the problems you're worried about? Maybe the story shows the journey from dystopia to utopia? Or maybe the solarpunk world still suffers droughts and famine in the aftermath of a climate apocalypse?
After watching your solarpunk video, I can see it was a very successful example of what you described here! It really feels like you find the words to motivate me and to push against the mental disabilities and the effects of working life to actually act and find solutions rather than stay in my puddle of fear on the path to the future pf climate change. I'm so grateful I found your channel!!
You're one of the few channels I have giving me notifications when you post something (shout out to Our Changing Climate too). Keep up these wonderful essays
My bro, I have been focused on left politics and the diaspora for 30 years as a self taught novice. Rarely have I witnessed someone as on point as you. I’m not big on hero’s, but you are starting to change my mind.
I appreciate this video (and the rest!)! Taking so many notes for my essay!! Can't wait to finish the script, film, edit and release and share online with y'all!
I lean a bit more authoritarian than you, but regardless of specific ideology you produce great vids, will definitely be coming back and referencing you in future work.
This was extremely helpful to me even though I'm a non-anarchist leftist. Explaining our ideas is important, regardless of our, for a lack of better words, ideological sects of the left we might be in Also, nice choice with that clip of The Simpsons
As someone who myself had empathy be the leading factor into learning this, I struggle finding ways to convince those in my immediate entourage who willingly suppress their empathy to get ahead in the current system. It's such slow progress... But I guess any progress is progress =/ Anyone got any resource? (Regardless I'm gonna give a look at At The Café, sounds useful. I gotta admit I rarely actually follow up on book recommendations...)
I don't know if this helps, but I sometimes try to understand the emotion that is underneath the desire to get ahead. Is it fear of abandonment? Loss of autonomy? Every driving force has a carrot and a stick as it were. One thing that really struck me when I was still trying to silence my heart to be capitalistically valuable was that I could either work a grueling life for the possibility of one day taking some time to relax and breath... or I could work to relax and breath every day, and not put off my humanity as a shriveled reward for a life of anti-humanism. What do your immediate entourage members want as their reward for their empathy-suppression? Is it something they could have without suppressing it?
@@theverbind Yeah what worked for you is essentially the thread I'm managing somewhat with some loved ones. The whole work now, rest later... which is assuming that there will be a later.
Presenting a real solution along a demand is incredibly important. I notice that many leftists fail to convince their opposition because the opposition views them solely as destructors, not as builders. The majority of people wants a predictable future where their needs are met, so arguing for certain changes in society should always include plans, predictions and observations throughout history of different ways those changes can be safely done.
Thank you for this. Especially in using the language people use and not just jargon, that is one thing I find problematic of a lot of leftist discourse that it is inaccessible for the average lay person who hasn't read all of the texts.
It's the sensory information that my nervous system is forced to process all of the time that keeps it thoroughly sick, that's all. So let the world shut up already.
just a thought ( and one that might already be stated) but this endeavor might be aided by some reading- Lakoff "Moral Politics" and Lakoff & Johnson "Metaphors we Live by". Just saying.
4:27 “be unambiguous” is good advice, but being ambiguous has its place! I can engage with some people only through ambiguity, as you say “don’t let liberals and other authoritarians hijack the message” By obscuring my goals, and using a common goal, or common enemy, to bridge the gap and open up conversation. Using “liberals” is the easiest, by establishing them as “my enemy” I can usually catch the attention of a conservative for long enough that they won’t simply dismiss me out of hand. Once you establish a commonality you can establish repore with a person then they MIGHT listen to some of my points, and by describing my points vaguely, but not mischaracterizing my points, it’s possible to get people to think deeper on a topic. It allows people to remove themselves from whatever is being discussed, maybe thinking of it very differently. Everyone is so invested in their own point of view, we can’t of won’t use a different lens. All that said, if you’re seriously engaging with someone with good faith and in good faith, then none of that should be needed.
The be unambiguous point is so important, especially given how not only liberals but even right wing "populist" types love to co-opt radical messaging.
Cool shout out to Bandilang Itim. They've got some traction, though not much. They're getting themselves out there, and they're transparent compared to their Maoist counterparts. Love from the Philippines! 😊
ive been thinking of branching out in school and reaching like minded people to learn from each other, and this is a good video, though the school environment is not always the best for anarchist ideas lmao
Then relabel, call yourself "a libertarian docialist" thats a lot more appealing to the masses then the destructive stereotype of anarchism. If its the words and aesthetucs that they are ehung up on, change them, if its the message, change them. Its all about finding what they are rejecting you for.
I just see how there are so many stupid things being effectively spread through all that people, I think we should completely analice all of this cases and spread anarchist propaganda in every media
No, we shouldn't, we should educate people properly and let them truly think for themselves. If you're manipulating them to think like you, "for the greater good" that is just facism but with a rose-colored bow on top....
Hey to make you feel any better, I hate capitalism but i'm going to school for accounting. It's painful but even the left need bean counters. Thank you for the educational and great video.
Can't say that I personal feel the same about online spaces, I know that by virtue of them literally being online that they are predisposed to being removed from the "real world" but this is a common misconception honestly, but remember though, the idea that the internet, the largest space of free ideas, doesn't have an impact on the real world itself is a little dishonest, no, it shouldn't be the only way information is spread, but it is a useful tool nonetheless.
I used to think it was every leftists job to recruit as many people as possible. Nowadays, I don’t feel that way. My role, as a fat disabled trans person, is to push people who are already convinced for many issues to consider the ones they haven’t already. I don’t have the energy to convince people to flip their whole script. But I can encourage people to be more radical with their views.
Conservatives put a lot of stigma around the word propaganda but propaganda in itself is not good or bad my videos are propaganda your videos are propaganda and there's nothing wrong with that its what we believe
How do you all stand on animal rights/liberation? Do you think the "might makes right" and "it's natural to dominate and use as means to own ends those who are weaker than us" is the common ideological thread in all oppressive systems? Now to this community. I watched this for animal liberarion :)
Hi Julian, surprised you didn't just post a link to Dominion lol. But yeah, vegan for 2 years, however, I did not initially come into it for moral/ethical reasons but the environment, it was after a year that I realized that this way of living was so simple that it is just unexcusable to not be the default. But alas, it took actually trying it to come to that conclusion. I believe in animal liberation, though it is a difficult idea for people to wrap their heads around. Leftists especially tend to have that nagging belief that nothing they do individually matters (average American diet involves 250 animal deaths a year, if that's not personal resposibility idk...) That on top of the massive cognitive dissonance fostered by a lifetime of "loving animals" (and eating them too), I doubt many will take your comment seriously. Which is sad tbh. This vid is about propoganda, so all I can say is that I've converted more people with telling them how easy and simple being vegan is, leading by example, and cooking delicious food than any slaughterhouse video. These difficult questions are important to ask, but for me, being terrible at debates, this is how I'll fight for the animals. Peace dude, gl
@@harrisondorn7091 Awesome comment with a lot of insight! Yeah, it's very very difficult to bring up animal rights. No matter how you do it you are accused of every and anything negative. No matter how softly. I disagree that slaughterhouse vids aren't as effective, tho. To many many people, they are. But many others come into veganism from environmental or health reasons, too. So we need both. And We need both system change and individual change. I don't think one of those proceeds the other. What is probably for sure is that people need both a WHY and a HOW to change. Slaughterhouse videos and awareness speading are the 'why' motivators. Avaliability of and inspiration with foods are the 'how'. Melanie Joy has some amazing psychological work on the ideology of meat eating today. In the litterature and in historical comparisons it is painfully obvious that animal consumption follows EXACTLY the same rhetoric and justifications as did slavery, racism and sexism. Even Martin Luther King Jr saw this and spoke about it. It absolutely paffles me that leftist can't see how terrible and serious a moral situation we are in. It's a shame, and it breaks my heart that those who claim to fight for justice and be against unfair oppression of the weak, are at the same time smilingly feasting on the death and misery of baby animals. But we are moving in the right direction, culturally.
I am a member of the CPUSA and I can understand the hesitancy to work with those in vanguard parties, from the perspective of anarchism. However, I do not feel as though our organizational structure is wrong. In fact, I've found it to be very helpful when it comes to organizing. Do you really think that leftists of anarchist roots and those in vanguards are in opposition?
Historically, those in vanguard parties have been explicitly and often violently hostile to leftists organising in more horisontal ways. While I'm sure there are many decent folk in vanguardist organisations, the historical record suggests that those of us who disagree with that approach act with caution around vanguard parties.
nah, basically everyone knows that "propaganda" is not a neutral word. the neutral word is "communication" or "messaging" or "influence". this meme about propaganda being neutral almost seems like it evolved the same way that certain cult memes evolve: in order to filter good rational people out of the cult. i know that's harsh, but think of the cost VS the benefit. it's trivially easy for you to speak the language people understand, using actual neutral words like influence and communication. then think of the cost of having outsiders believe that you are dangerous, that you cannot be trusted, that you are either a liar, or just not smart enough to be worth listening to in the first place. if you can be wrong about something so easy and obvious, what else might you be wrong about?
Taking notes
Love to see y'all in each other's content and channels!! Part of my Black Avengers!! 😂
just waiting on y'all and khadija mbowe collabing that would be awesome
hey I just found your channel a bit ago with your Bo Burnham video, and found it most excellent. Ive been recommending you to comrades ever since, keep it up! (if ya want to lol) !
WOAH
Aaaaaah how happy I was to see your face here. As others have said, it feels amazing to see adjacent creators in each others’ spaces. Keep doing everything you’re doing as long as it works for you!
Some advice I remember: People rarely change their minds "in public". They're more likely to do so long after your conversation with them. So not seeing an immediate change of mind is not necessarily a failure.
I agree, winning by subtracting...
idk if you've heard of him, but Beau of the Fifth Column makes excellent anarchist content and one saying he's fond of is "the truth can't be told, it has to be realized"
It's kinda obvious when you think about it
100%. Talking to people is productive even if you don't witness it. If the conversation is good certain questions will stay with them and they'll reflect about it by themselves in the future either of their own will or when they're confronted again with something that relates to the subject you talked about. Always talk to people without any expectation that they'll just admit to their defeat. Do it with a bit of faith that in the long run it may make a difference.
VERY good point! Thank you for sharing that. I've seen that myself before with folks in my neck of the woods.
In the case of the United States, I have found one of the most helpful methods of talking to people who may even consider themselves to be conservative is to appeal to either their or your shared history and the political culture (an extension of "know your audience").
In the United States we pride ourselves on being the first Republic of European/European descended nations, and along with that comes the buzz words of democracy. When talking politics with these friends it is quite effective to talk about the history of farmer co-ops, and coal miner's unions, or to equate the modern work place with that of a petty kingdom.
I have gotten friends whose only praise of "Muslim society" is their insistence of modest femininity shifted over towards the replacement of corporations with cooperatives.
It is also important to give a solution. I live at a university, and just across the street exists a store owned by the uni called "The Co-Op", in addition to several housing co-ops not affiliated with the uni. To explain the horrors of capitalism and to then be able to simply point to the model I prefer. "For you the consumer it is no different. For you the employee, you go from serf to citizen; a participant in the democracy of you job."
Good point! In my case, in the Caribbean, I point to our history of colonial resistance (maroonage, revolution, strikes and revolts).
convince them of taking psychedelic by all ways, that would waste less energy and convince waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more
@@VahnAeris improv political speeches while under the influence is definitely praxis hahahahhahaha.
This so much. This is how I have been swaying many of my conservative family members. Quoting authors and theory is far less effective than starting from their perspective and leading them out.
@@TakeV Starting from their perspective is a good idea, but if they start asking "Why?", "Can you elaborate?", or even the dreaded, "How is what you are proposing going to work?", then I think that is when quoting authors and theory is a means of convincing people
Yessiah, bredda 🙏🏾 talk da tings! I’ve found that one thing that the right side of the spectrum focuses on is monopolizes the airwaves. Rush Limbaugh dem (rest he soul even tho he don’t deserve no best wishes) used to be all up in truckers dem ear from dawn till dusk essentially entrenching people deeper into those echo chambers. We need to have content that communicates our values in ways that are as effective so that we can mobilize.
Could you make a video exploring suburbs/small town organizing? I’m trying my best, connecting with any other anarchists by helping to run a food not bombs, but the isolation inherent in the suburbs makes it hard to find people and sustain a community. On top of that, I find so many anarchist resources are geared towards cities. Thanks.
Good idea! I'll add it to the list. Idk about small town life, but I can probably tackle the suburb stuff and hope that it covers enough.
This!! Hopefully any resources y'all find can be used to turn suburbs into actual communities as well.
@@Andrewism OMG IM SO EXCITED!! this is exactly the advice I need
living in one of the most remote places in France, I did notice that the local alternative communities have gained much traction from selling their products in farmer's markets and promoting some of their magazines there. When people depend on you for food, it's harder to kick you out.
One of my biggest flaws is that I often shy away from engaging in conversations with people out of fear of being wrong. It's something I've internalized from my time in school.
Glad I'm not the only one.
I think music, art & film has always been some of the most effective mediums and can tend to be ignored. In that sense I always lament our departure from Rapso music as a significant part of our cultural identity.
Man, what a coincidence that modern popular music is created and filtered by corporations and guaranteed to succeed by a combination of exploiting human psychology and their affiliation with radio stations, effectively allowing for the pseudo-censorship and de-radicalization of media discourse.
A specific tactic that I’ve found pretty useful is using the phrase “libertarian socialist” rather than “anarchist”. There are a lot of misconceptions about anarchism, and dispelling all of those can be pretty frustrating. On the other hand a lot of people aren’t really familiar with the term “libertarian socialism”, and on top of that believe that socialism just means state ownership. So if you introduce yourself as a libertarian socialist, they’re gonna ask what that means, and then you can open up a dialogue without as many misconceptions right out the gate.
All Libertarianism/anarchism leads to concentration of power regardless of how it's dressed up.
@@belkyhernandez8281 that’s true of so-called anarcho-capitalism (which isn’t anarchist anyways) but true anarchism eliminates all means through which power can be accumulated, and so removes that as a threat.
@@belkyhernandez8281 lmao yes because you're strawmanning all anarchists as a monolith
@@chasesigler9885 Feel free to correct me. Which anarchist support gov programs and regulations.
@@belkyhernandez8281 anyone who believes in dialectics
If you're deeply immersed in online politics do your best to get unimmersed. If we can't meet folks where they are we can't do anything at all. This online discourse is largely incredibly removed from the day to day of real people and I can't stand being in online spaces cause I legit don't even know what people are talking about half the time and find their positions to be completely ridiculous a lotta the time.
my gf got tied in with breadtube, and shes always fustrated by this. Shes kept herself distant, and now we are working on our own stuff/finding a local community. she hates that all shes known for is being trans on breadtube, and not her actual ideas.
So much of online politics in leftist spaces is focused on personalities that nobody in real life knows or has any reason to care about
"a lotta the time"? WTF of grammar is that?
@@kefsound man shut up
@@kefsound If you're correcting them on that, chances are you don't know how grammar is utilized in linguistics.
As an anarchist named Andrew, thanks for continuing to make us all look smart
I've started to include anarchist thought and an anrchist vision of the future into a fanfiction story i write about my favorite sci-fi show, Doctor Who. Time travel stories are great for introducing anarchism.
I haven't actually published any chapters yet but if you like, I can put a link here once it's finished. I'm very interested in how I could improve getting the message across.
Anarchism of the left tradition?
@@iainmair485 It’s actually beyond the political spectrum.
As a multiply disabled writer, I love to see the recognition for those who do what they can with limited mobility :)
Even this video, as propaganda, was very powerful in of itself.
Every one of your videos is solid, inspiring, and motivating. You always get me thinking clearly again through the taught-helplessness of capitalist propaganda. Grateful for the work you do 💪
When you said '...as the machine pushes itself down our throats...' I immediately responded with 'ugh, I hate it,' then laughed seconds later because I'm also someone who's about to secure their bachelor's in Communication Studies
Glad I found your channel!
More utopias in books and other media as an example of how things could look if we put our ideas into action. Dystopia isn't needed anymore.
I agree with the idea that utopian literature is highly underserved. The focus on dystopian literature, especially as young adult literature to the exclusion of all other forms of futurism is extremely damaging. It creates tremendous hopelessness when all of the visions of the future that one reads are negative.
However I would push back on the idea that dystopian literature is unnecessary. Partially because I feel that labeling any art as unnecessary is a poor attitude towards art. And also because I would argue that presenting both something to fight against as well as something to fight for is a valuable approach.
I think dystopian literature is vastly over represented. But I don’t think it has no purpose.
Well from a storytelling perspective dystopia is more interesting because a utopia will either lack meaningful conflict in certain areas (a solarpunk utopia isn't worried about climate change so the story'll be about something else) or it's not a utopia.
Not to gatekeep or say you can't write a story with a solarpunk setting. Go ahead. But maybe you want a setting that emphasises the problems you're worried about? Maybe the story shows the journey from dystopia to utopia? Or maybe the solarpunk world still suffers droughts and famine in the aftermath of a climate apocalypse?
Then again, I don't know crap. Take my comment with a grain of salt. Just spitting my own ideas, I guess
Unskippable PragerU ads are terrifying, even worse they’re already being played in some classrooms.
After watching your solarpunk video, I can see it was a very successful example of what you described here! It really feels like you find the words to motivate me and to push against the mental disabilities and the effects of working life to actually act and find solutions rather than stay in my puddle of fear on the path to the future pf climate change. I'm so grateful I found your channel!!
You're one of the few channels I have giving me notifications when you post something (shout out to Our Changing Climate too). Keep up these wonderful essays
Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I feel like I’m alone in my views at times.
My bro, I have been focused on left politics and the diaspora for 30 years as a self taught novice. Rarely have I witnessed someone as on point as you. I’m not big on hero’s, but you are starting to change my mind.
5:08 ‘’But if we want people to liberate themselves, the message has to motivate them to act…’’
Powerful stuff right here
I appreciate this video (and the rest!)! Taking so many notes for my essay!! Can't wait to finish the script, film, edit and release and share online with y'all!
Thanks so much for what you do!! You inspire and motivate me to do more to get involved and take more action.
I finished listening to the fight club audiobook and for some reason I got a bunch of your vids recommended
I lean a bit more authoritarian than you, but regardless of specific ideology you produce great vids, will definitely be coming back and referencing you in future work.
I love what you're doing here 💚
I love your approach so much
Been looking for something like this for ages! Subbed!
Thanks we needed this
This was extremely helpful to me even though I'm a non-anarchist leftist. Explaining our ideas is important, regardless of our, for a lack of better words, ideological sects of the left we might be in
Also, nice choice with that clip of The Simpsons
As someone who myself had empathy be the leading factor into learning this, I struggle finding ways to convince those in my immediate entourage who willingly suppress their empathy to get ahead in the current system. It's such slow progress... But I guess any progress is progress =/ Anyone got any resource? (Regardless I'm gonna give a look at At The Café, sounds useful. I gotta admit I rarely actually follow up on book recommendations...)
I don't know if this helps, but I sometimes try to understand the emotion that is underneath the desire to get ahead. Is it fear of abandonment? Loss of autonomy? Every driving force has a carrot and a stick as it were. One thing that really struck me when I was still trying to silence my heart to be capitalistically valuable was that I could either work a grueling life for the possibility of one day taking some time to relax and breath... or I could work to relax and breath every day, and not put off my humanity as a shriveled reward for a life of anti-humanism. What do your immediate entourage members want as their reward for their empathy-suppression? Is it something they could have without suppressing it?
@@theverbind Yeah what worked for you is essentially the thread I'm managing somewhat with some loved ones. The whole work now, rest later... which is assuming that there will be a later.
Presenting a real solution along a demand is incredibly important. I notice that many leftists fail to convince their opposition because the opposition views them solely as destructors, not as builders. The majority of people wants a predictable future where their needs are met, so arguing for certain changes in society should always include plans, predictions and observations throughout history of different ways those changes can be safely done.
Thank you!
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Thank you for this. Especially in using the language people use and not just jargon, that is one thing I find problematic of a lot of leftist discourse that it is inaccessible for the average lay person who hasn't read all of the texts.
It's the sensory information that my nervous system is forced to process all of the time that keeps it thoroughly sick, that's all. So let the world shut up already.
Found this via autonomous media!
Another very important video. Great work!
unfathomably based as always, I really need to get around to finishing Kropotkins stuff
just a thought ( and one that might already be stated) but this endeavor might be aided by some reading- Lakoff "Moral Politics" and Lakoff & Johnson "Metaphors we Live by". Just saying.
4:27 “be unambiguous” is good advice, but being ambiguous has its place!
I can engage with some people only through ambiguity, as you say “don’t let liberals and other authoritarians hijack the message”
By obscuring my goals, and using a common goal, or common enemy, to bridge the gap and open up conversation.
Using “liberals” is the easiest, by establishing them as “my enemy” I can usually catch the attention of a conservative for long enough that they won’t simply dismiss me out of hand.
Once you establish a commonality you can establish repore with a person then they MIGHT listen to some of my points, and by describing my points vaguely, but not mischaracterizing my points, it’s possible to get people to think deeper on a topic.
It allows people to remove themselves from whatever is being discussed, maybe thinking of it very differently. Everyone is so invested in their own point of view, we can’t of won’t use a different lens.
All that said, if you’re seriously engaging with someone with good faith and in good faith, then none of that should be needed.
My advice is to go outside and just talk with people. It’s fairly easy and does do a lot to help our cause
1:24 I feel ya I'm studying advertisement 😂 I chose it only for artistic with mix of psychology reasons
You could've just had an art therapy degree...
Same 😂
The be unambiguous point is so important, especially given how not only liberals but even right wing "populist" types love to co-opt radical messaging.
Cool shout out to Bandilang Itim. They've got some traction, though not much. They're getting themselves out there, and they're transparent compared to their Maoist counterparts. Love from the Philippines! 😊
We need to stop Spider-Man propaganda saying he’s a hero and not a menace!
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amazing
That intro really "tested" my speakers.
Algobump
Always include propaganda with praxis!
Thank you :)
insightful!
ive been thinking of branching out in school and reaching like minded people to learn from each other, and this is a good video, though the school environment is not always the best for anarchist ideas lmao
Then relabel, call yourself "a libertarian docialist" thats a lot more appealing to the masses then the destructive stereotype of anarchism. If its the words and aesthetucs that they are ehung up on, change them, if its the message, change them. Its all about finding what they are rejecting you for.
remember, it's not about what we say it's about what they hear that counts
Great video
I just see how there are so many stupid things being effectively spread through all that people, I think we should completely analice all of this cases and spread anarchist propaganda in every media
No, we shouldn't, we should educate people properly and let them truly think for themselves. If you're manipulating them to think like you, "for the greater good" that is just facism but with a rose-colored bow on top....
Anyone else come here from the Autonomous Media channel recommendation?
Hey to make you feel any better, I hate capitalism but i'm going to school for accounting. It's painful but even the left need bean counters. Thank you for the educational and great video.
Can't say that I personal feel the same about online spaces, I know that by virtue of them literally being online that they are predisposed to being removed from the "real world" but this is a common misconception honestly, but remember though, the idea that the internet, the largest space of free ideas, doesn't have an impact on the real world itself is a little dishonest, no, it shouldn't be the only way information is spread, but it is a useful tool nonetheless.
Critical methods are neat
We need a conference.
Can someone tell me what is the name of the podcast with Dao symbol at the right side?
Beyond Binary Podcast!
@@Andrewism Thanks, episodes list looks really interesting. There is also episode about polish situation, glad to see as a Polish.
I will be returning to this video
Great video!
I used to think it was every leftists job to recruit as many people as possible. Nowadays, I don’t feel that way. My role, as a fat disabled trans person, is to push people who are already convinced for many issues to consider the ones they haven’t already. I don’t have the energy to convince people to flip their whole script. But I can encourage people to be more radical with their views.
Conservatives put a lot of stigma around the word propaganda but propaganda in itself is not good or bad my videos are propaganda your videos are propaganda and there's nothing wrong with that its what we believe
How do you all stand on animal rights/liberation? Do you think the "might makes right" and "it's natural to dominate and use as means to own ends those who are weaker than us" is the common ideological thread in all oppressive systems? Now to this community. I watched this for animal liberarion :)
Hi Julian, surprised you didn't just post a link to Dominion lol. But yeah, vegan for 2 years, however, I did not initially come into it for moral/ethical reasons but the environment, it was after a year that I realized that this way of living was so simple that it is just unexcusable to not be the default. But alas, it took actually trying it to come to that conclusion. I believe in animal liberation, though it is a difficult idea for people to wrap their heads around. Leftists especially tend to have that nagging belief that nothing they do individually matters (average American diet involves 250 animal deaths a year, if that's not personal resposibility idk...) That on top of the massive cognitive dissonance fostered by a lifetime of "loving animals" (and eating them too), I doubt many will take your comment seriously. Which is sad tbh. This vid is about propoganda, so all I can say is that I've converted more people with telling them how easy and simple being vegan is, leading by example, and cooking delicious food than any slaughterhouse video. These difficult questions are important to ask, but for me, being terrible at debates, this is how I'll fight for the animals. Peace dude, gl
@@harrisondorn7091 Awesome comment with a lot of insight! Yeah, it's very very difficult to bring up animal rights. No matter how you do it you are accused of every and anything negative. No matter how softly. I disagree that slaughterhouse vids aren't as effective, tho. To many many people, they are. But many others come into veganism from environmental or health reasons, too. So we need both. And We need both system change and individual change. I don't think one of those proceeds the other.
What is probably for sure is that people need both a WHY and a HOW to change. Slaughterhouse videos and awareness speading are the 'why' motivators. Avaliability of and inspiration with foods are the 'how'.
Melanie Joy has some amazing psychological work on the ideology of meat eating today. In the litterature and in historical comparisons it is painfully obvious that animal consumption follows EXACTLY the same rhetoric and justifications as did slavery, racism and sexism. Even Martin Luther King Jr saw this and spoke about it. It absolutely paffles me that leftist can't see how terrible and serious a moral situation we are in. It's a shame, and it breaks my heart that those who claim to fight for justice and be against unfair oppression of the weak, are at the same time smilingly feasting on the death and misery of baby animals.
But we are moving in the right direction, culturally.
what are your opinions on orthodox marxism?
List of the podcasts?
I am a member of the CPUSA and I can understand the hesitancy to work with those in vanguard parties, from the perspective of anarchism. However, I do not feel as though our organizational structure is wrong. In fact, I've found it to be very helpful when it comes to organizing. Do you really think that leftists of anarchist roots and those in vanguards are in opposition?
Historically, those in vanguard parties have been explicitly and often violently hostile to leftists organising in more horisontal ways. While I'm sure there are many decent folk in vanguardist organisations, the historical record suggests that those of us who disagree with that approach act with caution around vanguard parties.
What about speciesism?
You say propaganda isn't bad, but all the examples you give are evil.
Evil according to who?
nah, basically everyone knows that "propaganda" is not a neutral word. the neutral word is "communication" or "messaging" or "influence". this meme about propaganda being neutral almost seems like it evolved the same way that certain cult memes evolve: in order to filter good rational people out of the cult. i know that's harsh, but think of the cost VS the benefit. it's trivially easy for you to speak the language people understand, using actual neutral words like influence and communication. then think of the cost of having outsiders believe that you are dangerous, that you cannot be trusted, that you are either a liar, or just not smart enough to be worth listening to in the first place. if you can be wrong about something so easy and obvious, what else might you be wrong about?
Fine, I'll make propaganda.
Thank you!
Great video