Hey, Thanks Rob! Loved getting my own, personal instruction! :) I fall into that ‘doesn’t crash very often’ category. So I love the idea of just bumping by 1/2mile at a time until I’m comfortable at the higher speed. With all your other videos and lessons I really feel I’m skiing better than I ever thought I could at this age. I’ll hopefully be trying another tournament next year-fully enjoying any day on the water! Thanks, JP (John Paul)
Appreciate the kind words John (should have asked the name before I shot the video 😂)! Let me know how the bumping up the speed goes and would love to hear if you can make some progress on getting a little more comfortable on the faster speeds!
This has been one of my questions each season. I can ski 15 off, 32 mph 8 out of 10 times extra wide and ready most of the time. Once I adjust to 22, it seems much different. Of course my 03 MC has a bigger hump at 22 off. I might make it 1 out of 10, sometimes 20 attempts over a few days. For fun, I might try 15 off at 34, but still struggle. Last 2 seasons, I could make these a few times a week. I feel like I'm skiing better too, but the buoys don't seem to confirm that. I also heard another youtube coach discuss it from a tournament stand point and I believe the theory was stay at the slower speed for 15 & 22, but before going to 28, stay at the same length and go up on speed. He had a theory that at the longer lengths there's a same advantage. Thanks
Hey George and Sara, so your biggest issue seems to be the wake problem. So going slower is going to make the wake bigger but give you more time before the bouy to recover. So essentially going slower will (I imagine) be a little bit or a band aid for your wake crossing, wether your going flat through the wakes, losing angle or pulling long I would say to work on that part and make sure you are being confident by driving your position and ski angle into the wakes and making sure you are staying on edge into first wake before you start your edge change. Going flat before first wake will make it very tough to carry direction through your edge change and cause you to be fast and narrow at the bouy (at 32mph you will get away with this easier). Again this is just my best guess on what you have said but instead of worrying too much about speed or line length, make sure no matter what pass it is your still working on those wake crossings and carrying a good line your edge change and too the bouy. Hope this helps!
I'm curious what you think of shadowing the buoys, in terms of practice. I like to have people who are learning a new line length shadow that pass a considerable amount of time, hopefully helping them learn the timing.
Hey Lee, I’ve never heard of shadowing bouys on purpose as you start to move into shortenings other than when first learning to run the course. I would agree free skiing with the purpose of being bouy width but not being rushed by the course could be useful as you are getting a sense of the increased load, pull and swing. But intentionally shadowing probably isn’t going get you used to the new line length as you are never getting to full width and learning the different view (and most importantly swing) of the line length. As you mention the timing part as well, I would say this would be true for moving up speeds but the hardest bit about going shorter is (in my opinion) learning to swing up on the side of the boat, so stopping this swing early would make it tougher to feel this. Always fun to hear of new methods of trying line lengths though and as I’ve never tried this, all my thoughts are just thoughts! Interested to know from your experience how your students find making the change from shadowing to going round the bouys? Does it usually take a few passes of adjustment to the extra swing needed or usually ends up a pretty seamless change.
Thoughts on learning 36 -22? Should I just focus on getting 34 -22 really consistent? I can run 36 -15 a lot of the time but don’t feel like I have any chance of getting 36 -22, I ski straight into 1 ball every time
Very helpful.
Hey, Thanks Rob! Loved getting my own, personal instruction! :) I fall into that ‘doesn’t crash very often’ category. So I love the idea of just bumping by 1/2mile at a time until I’m comfortable at the higher speed. With all your other videos and lessons I really feel I’m skiing better than I ever thought I could at this age. I’ll hopefully be trying another tournament next year-fully enjoying any day on the water! Thanks, JP (John Paul)
Appreciate the kind words John (should have asked the name before I shot the video 😂)! Let me know how the bumping up the speed goes and would love to hear if you can make some progress on getting a little more comfortable on the faster speeds!
Really good stuff Rob.
This has been one of my questions each season. I can ski 15 off, 32 mph 8 out of 10 times extra wide and ready most of the time. Once I adjust to 22, it seems much different. Of course my 03 MC has a bigger hump at 22 off. I might make it 1 out of 10, sometimes 20 attempts over a few days. For fun, I might try 15 off at 34, but still struggle. Last 2 seasons, I could make these a few times a week. I feel like I'm skiing better too, but the buoys don't seem to confirm that. I also heard another youtube coach discuss it from a tournament stand point and I believe the theory was stay at the slower speed for 15 & 22, but before going to 28, stay at the same length and go up on speed. He had a theory that at the longer lengths there's a same advantage. Thanks
Hey George and Sara, so your biggest issue seems to be the wake problem. So going slower is going to make the wake bigger but give you more time before the bouy to recover. So essentially going slower will (I imagine) be a little bit or a band aid for your wake crossing, wether your going flat through the wakes, losing angle or pulling long I would say to work on that part and make sure you are being confident by driving your position and ski angle into the wakes and making sure you are staying on edge into first wake before you start your edge change. Going flat before first wake will make it very tough to carry direction through your edge change and cause you to be fast and narrow at the bouy (at 32mph you will get away with this easier). Again this is just my best guess on what you have said but instead of worrying too much about speed or line length, make sure no matter what pass it is your still working on those wake crossings and carrying a good line your edge change and too the bouy. Hope this helps!
@@RobHazelwood Thank you for your insight and comments. Best wishes and enjoy your videos.
I'm curious what you think of shadowing the buoys, in terms of practice. I like to have people who are learning a new line length shadow that pass a considerable amount of time, hopefully helping them learn the timing.
Hey Lee, I’ve never heard of shadowing bouys on purpose as you start to move into shortenings other than when first learning to run the course. I would agree free skiing with the purpose of being bouy width but not being rushed by the course could be useful as you are getting a sense of the increased load, pull and swing. But intentionally shadowing probably isn’t going get you used to the new line length as you are never getting to full width and learning the different view (and most importantly swing) of the line length. As you mention the timing part as well, I would say this would be true for moving up speeds but the hardest bit about going shorter is (in my opinion) learning to swing up on the side of the boat, so stopping this swing early would make it tougher to feel this. Always fun to hear of new methods of trying line lengths though and as I’ve never tried this, all my thoughts are just thoughts! Interested to know from your experience how your students find making the change from shadowing to going round the bouys? Does it usually take a few passes of adjustment to the extra swing needed or usually ends up a pretty seamless change.
Thoughts on learning 36 -22? Should I just focus on getting 34 -22 really consistent? I can run 36 -15 a lot of the time but don’t feel like I have any chance of getting 36 -22, I ski straight into 1 ball every time