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I feel like talking to a pt who graduated to top of their class would help with designing the physique of different Super Heroes. Getting real world advice pertaining to which muscle groups would be trained for which kind of activities (boxers vs. runners) would not only be helpful with drawing characters, butt inhale which kind of workouts and training would best suit which characters. For example, Daredevil wouldn't likely do activities with target practice (targets that don't make any kind of noise that is) but would excel in grappling support training like judo. Or Tony Stark doesn't need to do weightlifting because he doesn't do any of the heavy lifting. Then once you get an idea of which supports and training they would be more and less likely to do, you could seek out professional trainers and sports injury physicians for advice regarding the more and less used muscle groups specifically. ...you know, for those of us who like to be _thorough_ (read: extra)
We're with you on taking those things into consideration when it's important. As far as being extra about anatomy details in our art, refer to our entire anatomy course here on RUclips. We love those tiny details and what they imply.
That can be a hard one and is important to sort out when drawing comics especially. A useful practice is to draw character sheets. The same characters with different expressions and at different angles. It helps you to really lock in your mind what's possible with the character and work within that to get the most expression while maintaining likeness.
here’s a tip , have fun and make it about the story first then design the character so they fit the setting, tone, and atmosphere. If you Know how someone speaks, and carries themselves then that informs how they appear. I say, forget about breaking the silhouette and focus on the story first.
Definitely! This course takes people through writing, paneling, sketching, inking, coloring and even making covers. This is just a lesson from midway through the course so it's already well past the section where people have already put together their characters' stories and more. There's a great part at the start of the course where Jim Zub discusses inhabiting the characters while he writes them and how that allows the characters to be REAL.Not just writing characters that conveniently go from plot point to plot point just because it's convenient for story.
@@ProkoTV while I agree in part and you are some kind to agree with me, the story of a character isn’t, the story in which they inhabit. There is a structure where elements like characters are informed by overarching concepts like genre. The genre always already situates the kind of story you’re gonna tell. Any major element outside the genre will create a dynamic contrast which will draw attention to itself. For example, the genre is medieval fantasy and you have a 1980s Hip Hop character as a pov character in that setting who wants to get back to their own time will create visual dynamics purely by what someone wears to appear as a 1980s Hip Hop characters vs what our experience and expectations are for medieval fantasy. So by focusing on story aspects like genre we understand the expectations of the reader so they can be reinforced or undermined depending on the juxtaposition between the visual elements. Thank you again for your time and feedback
One thing you can do to daredevil as a blind superhero, visually, is to make him see with his ears, meaning when interacting with others, he would seem to be looking away because it'd be his ear that's facing the other person.
This was great-- both the art, and the instruction. I think variation in physique is something not talked about nearly enough, and everyone who does figure drawing should practice this skill when designing a lineup of characters. Unrelated to that, can anyone tell me what kind of pen Sanford is using?
I bought this Premium Course like a month ago, but I don’t want to start it until I finish the course I’m taking right now. But I’m almost there! I’m so excited!
Love this video. I play lots of rpgs and I’ve always disliked how many created characters would be running around the game with the same physiques and same heights 😅
Agreeing with Oak! Keep at it. It feels that way now but learning is a thing that builds. You'll always be adding to it. Starting from not knowing anything also means you have no bad habits yet. We can work with that!
16:31 for a second i got confused between caps shoulder with his shield assuming he kepts at 17:04 his back. Then i realise if all heroes here are without their weapons then caps shoulder is probably bulky that way ...
Could be Pentel Fude Touch Brush Sign Pen, or Pentel Arts Sign Pen Brush. I'm having a hard time finding the exact pen with the exact markings, and think his may have been purchased internationally.
The same concepts will apply to any gendered physic, being about taking the characters' backgrounds and story into account when modifying their shape. While there's nothing specific to any gender with what he describes, I understand why you would ask for something like that and will keep it in mind for the future.
We sell to pretty much all countries, aside from a couple that are legally barred because of *world events* But if you make a Proko account, you'll see you can bug a course from just about anywhere.
This man is an amazing artist, and he's way better than me, but was "slightly thinner" supposed to be a "physique variation"? The video is over, and I'm still waiting to see any difference between the four physiques. Three out of the four figures are practically identical at the end of the video, and Cap's physique is only barely distinguishable. If Sanford wants to create unique silhouettes then why don't any of the characters have Sanford's physique, which is a lovely physique, and is also quite unique compared to the others.
This was a demo of one of those really hard artist-side issues of making comics. You'll often work for a client who has characters that are all essentially the same. You don't get the space to be able to modify proportions and silhouettes in the way that you'll see Sanford himself do in the books he's designing characters for. So, how do you give subtle differences to builds that are all almost the same? You can hide a bunch more variation on movements, posing and more. But this is a good exercise on the differences you can include that then inform all of the other images you draw of the characters.
I’m sorry I gotta say this i truly did not think you would be black oh my god 😂😂😂😂 I watched a few videos with no face cam so I envisioned a 40 yr old balding white guy 😮 cool vid btw
This lesson was specifically about characters with similar physiques, with the goal of varying them off that one base. This is just a physique that's all over comics so it was useful to feature. In other lessons of the course, we discuss other physiques, what to emphasize on them to give different impressions and more. This is just the example shown for this lesson here. But we agree. Skinny characters need to be seen too!
Sanford Greene, Ryan Benjamin, and Alitha E. Martinez share even more character design knowledge with you in the premium course. Check it out - proko.com/marvel
Thank you proko....huge fan❤
I want to improve my drawings and I always come here
We think it's a good place to do that!
U already 🎉
Wise choice
I feel like talking to a pt who graduated to top of their class would help with designing the physique of different Super Heroes.
Getting real world advice pertaining to which muscle groups would be trained for which kind of activities (boxers vs. runners) would not only be helpful with drawing characters, butt inhale which kind of workouts and training would best suit which characters. For example, Daredevil wouldn't likely do activities with target practice (targets that don't make any kind of noise that is) but would excel in grappling support training like judo. Or Tony Stark doesn't need to do weightlifting because he doesn't do any of the heavy lifting. Then once you get an idea of which supports and training they would be more and less likely to do, you could seek out professional trainers and sports injury physicians for advice regarding the more and less used muscle groups specifically.
...you know, for those of us who like to be _thorough_ (read: extra)
We're with you on taking those things into consideration when it's important.
As far as being extra about anatomy details in our art, refer to our entire anatomy course here on RUclips. We love those tiny details and what they imply.
I struggle so much with the opposite of same face syndrome. Like my character never looks the same😭
SAMEE, consistency is so difficult, especially when perspective changes
That can be a hard one and is important to sort out when drawing comics especially.
A useful practice is to draw character sheets. The same characters with different expressions and at different angles. It helps you to really lock in your mind what's possible with the character and work within that to get the most expression while maintaining likeness.
Be sure that the proportions are the same and simplify the form of the whole face and different features to simple shapes
The best part of this is seeing Sanford's confidence in problem solving design! I'm inspired!
Sanford is the man. I love his work and I think this is a fantastic look into character designs and shape language.
exactly my problem! all my characters have the same form! thankyou Proko
Get those variations in there like Sanford showed! It makes a big difference.
Man !! Sanford greene is Crazy !! One of the best physique explain in art !!🎉
7:57 those loose strokes you makes probably have tons of experience and struggle behind them to make them go so smoothly n seems effortlessly 😮❤
Nice lessons. A lot of artist would benefit by giving characters unique physiques/silhouette
Extremely clear and super great tutorial/lesson. Amazing
here’s a tip , have fun and make it about the story first then design the character so they fit the setting, tone, and atmosphere. If you Know how someone speaks, and carries themselves then that informs how they appear. I say, forget about breaking the silhouette and focus on the story first.
Definitely!
This course takes people through writing, paneling, sketching, inking, coloring and even making covers. This is just a lesson from midway through the course so it's already well past the section where people have already put together their characters' stories and more.
There's a great part at the start of the course where Jim Zub discusses inhabiting the characters while he writes them and how that allows the characters to be REAL.Not just writing characters that conveniently go from plot point to plot point just because it's convenient for story.
@@ProkoTV while I agree in part and you are some kind to agree with me, the story of a character isn’t, the story in which they inhabit. There is a structure where elements like characters are informed by overarching concepts like genre. The genre always already situates the kind of story you’re gonna tell. Any major element outside the genre will create a dynamic contrast which will draw attention to itself.
For example, the genre is medieval fantasy and you have a 1980s Hip Hop character as a pov character in that setting who wants to get back to their own time will create visual dynamics purely by what someone wears to appear as a 1980s Hip Hop characters vs what our experience and expectations are for medieval fantasy. So by focusing on story aspects like genre we understand the expectations of the reader so they can be reinforced or undermined depending on the juxtaposition between the visual elements.
Thank you again for your time and feedback
One thing you can do to daredevil as a blind superhero, visually, is to make him see with his ears, meaning when interacting with others, he would seem to be looking away because it'd be his ear that's facing the other person.
Daredevil actually hides his blindness, that explain the eyes on his cowl, even spider-man didnt know.
Sandford is amazing as always! Love his character design approach.
This was great-- both the art, and the instruction. I think variation in physique is something not talked about nearly enough, and everyone who does figure drawing should practice this skill when designing a lineup of characters.
Unrelated to that, can anyone tell me what kind of pen Sanford is using?
Looks like a Pental Artists Sign Pen
I bought this Premium Course like a month ago, but I don’t want to start it until I finish the course I’m taking right now. But I’m almost there! I’m so excited!
Looking forward to seeing your work as part of it!
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This is so Good
Great teacher.
My guy does those so quick and confident
Imagine Proko making animation figure tutorials (I just want to type something out).
Love this video. I play lots of rpgs and I’ve always disliked how many created characters would be running around the game with the same physiques and same heights 😅
anyone know the inking pen he's using??
Pentel Artists Sign Pen!
I'd love to learn more about this. Sadly, my skills are so anemic that anything learning more would simply be a waste of time.
Don’t give up, it takes a lot to master it but it’s surely worth it!
Agreeing with Oak! Keep at it. It feels that way now but learning is a thing that builds. You'll always be adding to it.
Starting from not knowing anything also means you have no bad habits yet. We can work with that!
16:31 for a second i got confused between caps shoulder with his shield assuming he kepts at 17:04 his back. Then i realise if all heroes here are without their weapons then caps shoulder is probably bulky that way ...
Attention to detail.
Useful and interesting way to approach character design.
If not also a bit pretentious.
Oooh what pen is he using? It looks silky smooth and very expressive, I’d love to try it!
Could be Pentel Fude Touch Brush Sign Pen, or Pentel Arts Sign Pen Brush. I'm having a hard time finding the exact pen with the exact markings, and think his may have been purchased internationally.
@@davidherling5686 thank you so much for the effort! 🙏
Wish I could show off my characters, to get a bit of input on them.
Thanks one step closer to become proffesional artist
Could you guys make a similar video but for female characters?
The same concepts will apply to any gendered physic, being about taking the characters' backgrounds and story into account when modifying their shape.
While there's nothing specific to any gender with what he describes, I understand why you would ask for something like that and will keep it in mind for the future.
@@ProkoTV 😁
I want to approve my drawing and my RUclips channel I always come here
❤Can you please teach us how to draw Itadori in the movie Jujutsu Kaisen?
Así me gusta. Cosas de comics🎉
I’m I able to somehow get these silhouettes to help with my drawings?
You guys are the real sueprheros
another great video :)
Ta chido 😃 👍
What pen/pencil is he using?
Looks like a Pental Artists Sign Pen
how can I buy a proko course from an another country
We sell to pretty much all countries, aside from a couple that are legally barred because of *world events*
But if you make a Proko account, you'll see you can bug a course from just about anywhere.
18:17 the transition i always regret ... Give me bday gift as free courses 😮❤😢 im broke proko
why donot translate in Arib????
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Auto translated subtitles are available in Arabic, if that's what you mean.
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This man is an amazing artist, and he's way better than me, but was "slightly thinner" supposed to be a "physique variation"? The video is over, and I'm still waiting to see any difference between the four physiques. Three out of the four figures are practically identical at the end of the video, and Cap's physique is only barely distinguishable. If Sanford wants to create unique silhouettes then why don't any of the characters have Sanford's physique, which is a lovely physique, and is also quite unique compared to the others.
This was a demo of one of those really hard artist-side issues of making comics.
You'll often work for a client who has characters that are all essentially the same. You don't get the space to be able to modify proportions and silhouettes in the way that you'll see Sanford himself do in the books he's designing characters for.
So, how do you give subtle differences to builds that are all almost the same? You can hide a bunch more variation on movements, posing and more. But this is a good exercise on the differences you can include that then inform all of the other images you draw of the characters.
first🎉🎉
:D
oh wow i guess im a little early😅
You got to class early today! lol
Nah id win
I’m sorry I gotta say this i truly did not think you would be black oh my god 😂😂😂😂 I watched a few videos with no face cam so I envisioned a 40 yr old balding white guy 😮 cool vid btw
Everyone always doing muscle men, no one ever does skinny men 🥲
This lesson was specifically about characters with similar physiques, with the goal of varying them off that one base. This is just a physique that's all over comics so it was useful to feature.
In other lessons of the course, we discuss other physiques, what to emphasize on them to give different impressions and more. This is just the example shown for this lesson here.
But we agree. Skinny characters need to be seen too!
Spider-man is always better when he's long and lanky vs thicker. He's maybe one of the few, but he's the best.
You should check out more of Sanford greenee’s work he’s good at drawing skinny men and messing with characters shapes
Ta chido 😃 👍