As a new V7 850 owner I appreciate your service to the Moto Guzzi community. Anybody with half a brain knows that knowledge is power. Fanboys who are angered by honest, helpful unbiased feedback don't have a clue.
The check engine light coming on on any bike whether brand new or not should never be ignored as it could end up being a terminal situation and probably would have cancelled out your warranty had you not complained about it. As for the time it took to be fixed, that is deplorable. You did the right thing to complain to the dealer about it. Glad it was eventually sorted out for you.
What's annoying is when dealerships treat a complaint as if you are the only person in the world who has come across the problem, when the internet is full of people saying the same thing. The correct response should be we know of the issue, keep riding the bike and if there is a engine problem, we've got your back. They won't, in the off chance there is a real engine management flaw.
Appreciate you telling us the honest truth. Not enough people are ready to do that. If I had bought a new bike and had that happen I would have been fuming. You don't hand over all that money just to find you have a defective product.
I think you are quite correct in all you say. I would be so pissed off if my brand new bike threw up a fault right from the start. It would be so disappointing and take the joy out of the whole event. I love this bike and glad you got it sorted, eventually.
Well, I've also had an 850 V7 for three years (which spent 5 weeks at the dealer in 2022 while Guzzi sorted out the mapping) and love it. On the basis that I've just bought a Guzzi Mandello V100S in Verde 2121 (750 miles in and loving it) I'm going to say you've done the same!
No doubts, a brand new product should work from day 1. Only bananas are allowed to mature after arrival at the customer's place. I picked up a brand new V7 Corsa 4 weeks ago. I experienced strong vibrations not correlated to the engine speed. The dealer found some problem with the front tyre and replaced it. That didn't solve it. I suspected the joints in the drive shaft, since the vibrations were the strongest at zero power, or running down a hill with pulled clutch. I'll go pick it up tomorrow after the first service, and the mechanic said it was the rear wheel rim that caused the problem. I guess there was some issue with the transport, even though I live only 250km from the factory. In addition, the high beam was flickering on the highway in heavy rain. I sincerely hope that was all, and it will now work flawlessly.
After the first service and exchange of the rear wheel, it now runs like a dream. So happy it could be solved without fuzz! My dream bike didn't turn out to be a nightmare! 😏
Mate, ignore the haters and delete their negative comments. They’ll have forgotten that they even posted it after 2 days, they’ll already be off leaving their vile negativity on another channel. Your content is appreciated. 👍
The service ‘spanner’ light came on my then-new 850 Stone about 100 miles into my holiday to Cornwall , not long after picking the bike up. I stopped, rang the dealer by the side of the road, they told me not to worry about it and they’ll turn it off at the next service. So you’re not alone. Turns out my bike was fine, just the light telling me there’s a fault…was at fault. Your next bike? Lighter than the BMW 1250, built for touring…if I was being facetious I’d suggest a V85TT or Mandello. Or maybe I’m just one of those fanboys?! Whatever it is, good luck with it and keep posting 🏍️
I had the same check engine light come on my Euro5 2021V85TT Centenario when I went to overtake and go into the higher rev range, but luckily when it went in for its annual service the software upgrade was available and sorted the issue and improved the lean fuelling as well, anyway can’t believe the negative comments you received for saying the way it was! Looking forward to see what you get next. Guessing V100S in green? So from your comments the BMW will be going soon too lol 👍
Nope, you are entitled to expect a brand new bike to not have these niggles and the manufacturer should take ownership of the problem and fix it, and with a simple software firmware update it should be dealt with promptly, given that it should not go out like that, best of luck with whatever you get next 👍🏻
I have my V7II for 9 years now and just ordered an new V7 850 Stone. For driving comfort on bumpy roads I replaced the fork springs by progressive ones from Wirth .. that helped a lot and will take these over to the new bike.
I bought a new 2022 V7 850 Special a few weeks ago, just rolled 2500 miles today, no issues so far, and its a great bike. Its my 49th motorcycle, I also have a 2022 Kawasaki W800 with 15,768 miles, thats a great bike too. I bought a 2022 Royal Enfield 650 INT new last year, just sold it with 5660 miles on it, no issues on that too.
I had a new V7 and owned it for just over 3 years. Under warranty I had 2 electrical problems fixed. Just out of warranty the rev counter needle fell off. Also on one service they upgraded my ECU for free which made the bike a little more sporty, but made the throttle response jerky. I part exchanged the bike for an Interceptor 650 for very little money and have had no problems at all with it in 4 years. I loved the V7 and had always wanted to own a Guzzi. Unfortunatley I won't buy another Italian bike as my Aprilia Pegaso 650 broke down up a mountain in France and I had to fly home.
Thank you for sharing the whole story over this long time. I got a V7 stone last year and had more luck - great bike and I enjoy every ride😊. Waiting for your next story ...👍👋
My guess for your new bike is either Aprilia Tuono 660 if you go for a lightweight fun bike, or a Moto Guzzi V100 Stelvio if you go for comfort on bad roads!
Seems like a super smooth ride with seamless performance. Guzzi is right on with its styling. If you like an r model bmw, you will love a guzzi. These people have been in the game for a long time and it takes a lot of careful consideration to maintain a brand for a great length of time. These guys are doing it very well.
I have the same V7 as you, that blue colour is stunning, the Special with its lovely proper clocks I find reminds me of the bikes I rode when I learnt to ride in the early 80’s. It’s a proper bike and it’s lovely to ride around the roads of the Lake District where I’m fortunate to live, where roads and sheep prevent fast riding! I’m keeping mine forever! I have 2 other bikes to tick the other boxes! Nothing beats the looks of the classic Guzzi in stunning blue, it’s stolen my heart!
First time i took my brand new GoldStar out last year the engine light stayed on which immediately made me wary and i returned home. Took it back to the dealer who sorted it and its never done it since, but I'm with you when lights come on or worse stay on you are bound to think the worse.
The Moto Guzzzi community is a plus. Many owners do their own service and are very helpful and enthusiastic IMO. But I'm guessing you will get an Aprilia.
I'm sorry you got trouble like this with your Guzzi. By the way: I proudly owned a Guzzi 850T in 1974 (one out of two in Germany at that time). I loved it.
Agree with everything you say except one thing, I fitted the dart marlin screen to mine and it's fundamentally changed how i feel about the bike at A road speeds. Without a screen 💯 agreed the bike wants to be ridden at 50 and is really tiring above. Its really surprised me as the bike is still lovely on back roads but has much more touring potential, and is perfectly happy pressing on.
I seriously thought about a V7 (no chrome) as a first big bike in the last couple of months. I passed my Mod tests on a 750gs so ended up that route as would still be looking half way thru 2024 before I settled. BUT... my heart was really wanting a 2024 V85TT. So maybe in a couple of years when I retire, that may be the bike for me. I love my BMW but I feel the MG would have been a little less aggressive attitude without quickshifter and in a different class. I really hope the buyer views your stuff online and really appreciates your positivity. If it were me i think I'd find peace in this. Who wouldn't be peed off buying something and then having an issue with it. It's only natural. Those negative folks saying other things obviously have been blessed to have no issues with anything in their lives to date. It takes an edge off a perfect experience and that's what you don't want. Looking forward to your new ride!
It sounds like the big Beemer should be the bike to go. Maybe? I wouldn’t have a clue as to which bike you’d go after next. Good luck with the choice. 👍
I bought a used 2018 V7iii Milano with only 700 miles on it. According to the dealer, it was bought new by one of their service techs. Soon after I bought it, the check engine light came on. Took it back and they diagnosed it as a faulty oxygen sensor in the left exhaust pike. They replace this (at my cost since the bike was out of warranty), and the light went out. The bike has also had problems of intermittent stalling for no reason at a stop, and intermittent start button not working. Both very frustrating and dangerous conditions since, on several occasions, the bike stalled at a busy red light and I could not re-start it! Haven't decided yet if I'm going to keep it or not, but it will be hard to sell with these unresolved issues, so I feel stuck with it at this point.
Great video on the reality of riding in the uk ! I’ve just sold my bike again 😢after months and months of rain 🌧️ I’ve lost the motivation to ride here, that’s why I’m watching your video 👍 I’m guessing you’ll be buying a V 100 ???
It boggles the mind that the manufacturer doesnt know what a error code means. Someone wrote the ecu program and created the code for a purpose, supposabley. I have heard the new HD sportster S creates many codes. A tech mentioned that they think software is to sensitive. A voltage fluctuation can throw a code.
Wannabe rider here, have loved your videos on the V7, would love to have one. I suspect MG don’t understand the software on their bikes as they probably don’t make it! Probably a third party sells it to a lot of manufacturers, so when there’s a glitch, they all suffer. Glad you had a positive experience overall, thought your comments were very balanced. Subscribed.
I bought a BMW R1250RT a few years ago. Check engine light came on early in my ownership experience. After 10 weeks at the shop all they could say was "electrical anomaly". I couldn't risk that on a planned 8000 mile ride in the middle of the western U.S.. Traded it for a Goldwing. I am giving BMW another chance with a R1250R. I also have a Mandello V100. So far, I am really enjoying it. The transmission is clunky, but I can live with it. I discovered a secret about the handlebar vibrations. The black Guzzi crash bars work well as vibration dampeners.
Owned 2 V7's.My first one was a mark || stone,pretty good just 10hp short and if you would start riding withing the first minute after start up it would die 😮 owned the same special as you do in this video and power was on point 👌 but drove it in the rain and frost a couple of times and it already started rusting everywhere. I bought it because of the shaft drive and big tank (of course the looks) ideal comuter bike... Absolutely not,it's a fair weather bike to go on light trips. And before people start saying I didn't take care,I wiped it down and even cleaned it if I had to after every ride. Far a 9000 euro bike the quality is just not enough...
What is the word coming to when you not supposed complain about your new bike, I had a BMW R100 RS well over 20 years ago which was rubbish I still complain about.
I tried the V7 last year and I felt in love with it. This bike is alive, easy, charismatic. Just great and different. I’m just a bit worried about reliability, and the fact that there is no more dealer close to Brussels (closest is 100km away). I fully agree that you should make the distinction between the bike (or car) and its brand. I own a Tesla and I don't agree at all with Musk’s opinions. But the car is fantastic, I enjoy driving it every day. So, yes, the V7 will certainly replace my old 19 yo BMW. If I find a dealer...
In fact this is one advantage of modern classic bikes over the sportier ones: they handle similarly when you have a pillion and you can as well enjoy the ride the same. Having a pillion on an ultimately sport bike just ruins the way it handles.
I have heard many stories from over the years that Piaggio are a nightmare to be a dealer for. I rejected a brand new Vespa 150PX in 2016 under the Sale of Goods Act that was showing rust on various parts. I don’t have faith in them for quality control or managing to build increasingly complex electronics that are reliable.
I am also 100% with you on your "Apple" statements!!! Oh... as for my guess for your next bike, I wish for you to buy a MotoGuzzi V100 Mandello, as it is the most enjoyable bike I 've ever ridden (although a bit heavy). But my bet is that you will buy an Aprilia Tuono 660.
I took delivery of a brand new 2023 V7 Special (1 mile) in April. I had the first service done at 900 miles before the service light came on. The tech said I should have waited for it to come on before bringing it in for service but said he could help me over the phone to reset it. Oddly, it never came on before or after service. That troubles me!
I feel your pain when your bike gets wet and muddy. Takes me an age to clean mine and I am a bit ocd too! Never ridden a guzzi but I do like them, along with bmw boxers, quirky, characterful bikes.
I have often had a ‘last ride’ before changing bikes, I tend not to nowadays because the bike always feels lovely and I wonder why I’m doing it. I’ve had Guzzi’s and they are very fondly remembered.
How about the Triumph T120 or the Moto Guzzi V100? I felt the V7 was just a tad too small and moving to a MG Audace was too heavy without a reverse, I'm leaning towards the Bonneville but really love Moto Guzzi's. Blaze on with whatever you discover.
I find it astonishing that people will dismiss a warning light as nothing to worry about! Just ignore it? I'd certainly not buy a bike off anyone who is that blasé about that! And the Euro5 comment was obviously made by someone who has not owned another Euro5 bike! The 2021 Honda CB500X , the 2022 Triumph Street Scrambler 900 that I've owned recently and my current 2022 Triumph Tiger 850 Sport, all Euro5 and not one of them displaying any kind of engine warning lights during my ownership! Unfortunately mate, you'll always get the keyboard warriors showing up when you're trying to do anything online. Good luck with your next bike.
If it's any consolation Mr CG, I would feel just as aggrieved as you did had I bought a brand new bike which then displayed a check engine warning light. It was a fault, end of. With regard to your comment about sportsbikes and not being able to use the power/traffic volume problems etc, I think it depends where in the UK you live. Luckily the area where I live has superb twisty rural roads, hardly any traffic, and very little Police presence, but I'm not gonna say where that is! Sorry to hear the Guzzi is going, as it is what first attracted me to your channel. A beautiful looking bike, I hope I get to own an identical one some day! My guess on the new bike is an Aprillia RS660 in black/red. Whadidiwin???
Those were far more beautiful and a better quality machine imo.. I owned a BMW R75/5 and my buddy owned a black 73 Eldorado. The year was 1985 and we were both 19.. I wouldn't touch a European motorcycle made after 2000. IMO all the Euro brands are living on past glory. Same for their cars. They are generally overly complex and unreliable. MT07 / 09 are miles ahead of any naked Euro bikes.
I am fortunate to have had many motorcycles, a few of which have been Guzzi's. Got to admit I was mortified when Piaggio took them over, as the way they had obliterated the history of the Gilera marque when they took it over made me fear for Guzzi's future. What you said in your summing up about company policies has made me perhaps consider a V7 at some point. :)
V100 Mandello S in the only color available? Well I know that it comes in grey as well but why? I do the same thing by the way just with old bikes. I have a 1992 Kawasaki GTR for touring and a 1990 Suzuki GS 500 for shits and giggles. Been thinking about upgrading the Suzuki to the V7 special that you're riding but only in the blue. fantastic looking bike. The only reason I'm considering the change is for the shaft drive. Every time I ride my Suzuki I'm thinking, what the hell is that noise? It's the chain!
If a company has a bad ethos - the Apple ones you mention are prime examples - it does affect my feelings towards the products and would taint my potential enjoyment of it, so I don't buy their products. I certainly don't feel that I'm punishing myself. There are plenty of alternatives to choose from.
Aprilia Tuono V4.. Red I guess. I would have said the 660 but more power was mentioned. I would get the RS 660 in the shitty nappy yellow colour(great look). Always liked the V7 special. Clean look. Reminds me of the Yamaha RD’s styling I rode back in the late 70’s.
Aprilia Tuareg 660cc Martian Red Because that's what I did, from a 750cc 2009 Moto Guzzi V7 Classic Bianco Diamante (pearlescent White) & regretted it!
Interesting observation / comment. 👍. I have a Tuareg 660 and have done a couple of tours in France with it. Both times on the Aprilia have been excellent. I'm two weeks away from my next one which is a mini tour in Brittany on my V7 850 Special. Exciting times!
I wish I had given this bike a look before buying my '24 Speed Twin 900. I'm very happy with it, but this may have been even more to my liking. Maybe I'll find one I can test ride someday.
I've just chopped my V7 850 special in for a BMW r1200rs. Had the Guzzi for a year or so,did some good runs round Scotland and enjoyed it very much. But, needed more oomph and I'm finding the bm ideal. Nowhere near as much character, and I don't get surrounded by old blokes for a chat about it. I may get another in a year or two, for Sunday rides out. Bye bye Guzzi, its been fun.
I think it's a moto guzzi v100s mandello,green with the brown seat. I will be ordering a guzzi v7 special edition next month,like you not a fan of the dash,but love the arrow pipes,red shocks etc.
I am 46 and I dont have a bike licence (yet). I used to drive moped as a kid. Im in love with this. The feel from the vids, the looks ... and I really dream owning and riding it. But people tell me that I should start with 125ccm. What do you think? Should I start with 125 ccm or is this bike beginner friendly?
Hi Nambr, well I can't tell you with what you should start, but the limit of 125ccm is to profane in my opinion. I started 5 years ago with a RE Classic 500 with 27 PS. Absolutely lovely for beginners. Have not ridden bigger bikes yet, but I consider to switch to the Guzzi V7 now. But i think you might start even with the guzzi, if you approach it with the due respect. No need to climb the engine sizes up like a ladder 😊
New bikes not giving access to the error codes is a real problem, I have a friend with a v85tt that has a similar issue, this is an adventure style bike for going on long journeys and suddenly you have no idea why the engine light is on, therefore another trip back to the dealer to check what code it's displaying, only to be told it's a throttle response issue or a oil pressure issue or a cruise control fault, all of which are no longer present. Therefore all confidence in the bike is lost and the round the world tour is on hold for ever as these issues are not likely to ever get fixed as they are so intermittent. For me new bikes have become overly complicated, in the old days the only light you would ever see is the oil light, no other warnings at all. The only way around this is to buy an obd2 reader and even that can't reset the engine light, it will just tell you what error you have, unless you pay out over £300 for a specific piaggio one. Manufactures need to at the very least offer a diagnostic on the bike to display the error severity, so at least you know if the bike is ok to continue riding. I love Moto Guzzi but they are really not convincing me to buy a new one anytime soon, along with this issue is the constant changing of dealerships that can service them. My guess would be you are buying the V100.
@Paulcooper5610 You can tell the severity of an engine light by common sense and reasoning. If you're not hearing any abnormal noises and the bike is otherwise running fine, fluids are at proper levels, etc. it's very likely not serious. If the engine sounds like a roll of quarters in a washing machine, or it If can't stay running, it's time to phone a friend or a tow truck. Long distance touring is a game of no guarantees. If you're not prepared to be broken down on the side of the road for any number of reasons, you have no business setting out in the first place. I agree that dealers should make it easier for riders to read codes, but how will that help you when you're in the middle of nowhere?
Well it’s a shame you have been put off as your bike is a beautiful machine. It’s your opinion and others should respect that. If I had your hassle I would have done the same. Let’s hope Motorcyclist Guzzi has learned a lesson in customer service.
Those complaining you weren't happy with a check engine light on a new bike are an odd minority. And they're also a problem. Manufacturers and dealers know these people exist and are very vocal, and it helps them. Or at least takes pressure off them. And the rest of us can end up being ripped off if we let it continue. Why should anyone just accept spending thousands of hard earned cash on something that is not right? It's bizzare. Don't let them get to you - after all they are the oddballs, it's not like their logic counts for much.
@@CGRidesMotorcycles Modern sensors & software that sample everything thousands of times a second will probably generate codes that aren't an issue to the engine or won't be noticeable on a dyno and definitely impossible for the rider to notice. But as you say, an engine fault light will impact the value at resale, especially a sale to a private buyer. Personally, it wouldn't bother me ... if the oil pressure is good (and why wouldn't it be?), the spark plugs are showing a good colour and the engine pulls well through the rev range (under acceleration or just cruising), then I wouldn't hesitate to buy the bike. Why? Because it's one of the BEST LOOKING Guzzis ever made (colour scheme, chrome accents) and it should just keep on keeping on. If the human body was a machine, it would be showing fault codes all the time :)
I had the same bike which I bought from new and sold it three months later. Too many faults and quality issues. A great bike to ride, but terrible to own.
There is. I don't think it's a standard OBD - it's the smaller variety so you need an adapter. It wouldn't have helped much with this situation, but I'm sure there are plenty of other things which could be DIY fixed.
Not sure where your coming from, kind of contradicted yourself really, got rid of a pocket rocket to get a modern classic that you can still enjoy, now going back to a pocket rocket 🤔🤔?? I have an Interceptor, but quite like the Guzzi though. 😊
As a new V7 850 owner I appreciate your service to the Moto Guzzi community. Anybody with half a brain knows that knowledge is power. Fanboys who are angered by honest, helpful unbiased feedback don't have a clue.
The check engine light coming on on any bike whether brand new or not should never be ignored as it could end up being a terminal situation and probably would have cancelled out your warranty had you not complained about it. As for the time it took to be fixed, that is deplorable. You did the right thing to complain to the dealer about it. Glad it was eventually sorted out for you.
What's annoying is when dealerships treat a complaint as if you are the only person in the world who has come across the problem, when the internet is full of people saying the same thing. The correct response should be we know of the issue, keep riding the bike and if there is a engine problem, we've got your back. They won't, in the off chance there is a real engine management flaw.
I plan to keep my V7 850 Centenario for life :)
Appreciate you telling us the honest truth. Not enough people are ready to do that. If I had bought a new bike and had that happen I would have been fuming. You don't hand over all that money just to find you have a defective product.
I think you are quite correct in all you say. I would be so pissed off if my brand new bike threw up a fault right from the start. It would be so disappointing and take the joy out of the whole event. I love this bike and glad you got it sorted, eventually.
I've really enjoyed my V7 850 since May 2023. I'll be keeping mine. 👍.
Well, I've also had an 850 V7 for three years (which spent 5 weeks at the dealer in 2022 while Guzzi sorted out the mapping) and love it. On the basis that I've just bought a Guzzi Mandello V100S in Verde 2121 (750 miles in and loving it) I'm going to say you've done the same!
No doubts, a brand new product should work from day 1. Only bananas are allowed to mature after arrival at the customer's place.
I picked up a brand new V7 Corsa 4 weeks ago. I experienced strong vibrations not correlated to the engine speed. The dealer found some problem with the front tyre and replaced it. That didn't solve it. I suspected the joints in the drive shaft, since the vibrations were the strongest at zero power, or running down a hill with pulled clutch. I'll go pick it up tomorrow after the first service, and the mechanic said it was the rear wheel rim that caused the problem. I guess there was some issue with the transport, even though I live only 250km from the factory. In addition, the high beam was flickering on the highway in heavy rain. I sincerely hope that was all, and it will now work flawlessly.
After the first service and exchange of the rear wheel, it now runs like a dream. So happy it could be solved without fuzz! My dream bike didn't turn out to be a nightmare! 😏
@@mikaelpettersson2389happy your bike has been put right. I looked a V7, lovely bike but wasn't the right bike for me at the time, maybe now it is
Mate, ignore the haters and delete their negative comments. They’ll have forgotten that they even posted it after 2 days, they’ll already be off leaving their vile negativity on another channel. Your content is appreciated. 👍
The service ‘spanner’ light came on my then-new 850 Stone about 100 miles into my holiday to Cornwall , not long after picking the bike up. I stopped, rang the dealer by the side of the road, they told me not to worry about it and they’ll turn it off at the next service. So you’re not alone. Turns out my bike was fine, just the light telling me there’s a fault…was at fault.
Your next bike? Lighter than the BMW 1250, built for touring…if I was being facetious I’d suggest a V85TT or Mandello. Or maybe I’m just one of those fanboys?!
Whatever it is, good luck with it and keep posting 🏍️
Mine is on on a 1700 miles 2021 v85 centenario, I'm sure it wont leave me stranded
I had the same check engine light come on my Euro5 2021V85TT Centenario when I went to overtake and go into the higher rev range, but luckily when it went in for its annual service the software upgrade was available and sorted the issue and improved the lean fuelling as well, anyway can’t believe the negative comments you received for saying the way it was! Looking forward to see what you get next. Guessing V100S in green? So from your comments the BMW will be going soon too lol 👍
Nope, you are entitled to expect a brand new bike to not have these niggles and the manufacturer should take ownership of the problem and fix it, and with a simple software firmware update it should be dealt with promptly, given that it should not go out like that, best of luck with whatever you get next 👍🏻
Really enjoyed your tone and pace and thoughts on motorcycling, so I’ve hit the subscribe button.
I have my V7II for 9 years now and just ordered an new V7 850 Stone.
For driving comfort on bumpy roads I replaced the fork springs by progressive ones from Wirth .. that helped a lot and will take these over to the new bike.
I bought a new 2022 V7 850 Special a few weeks ago, just rolled 2500 miles today, no issues so far, and its a great bike. Its my 49th motorcycle, I also have a 2022 Kawasaki W800 with 15,768 miles, thats a great bike too. I bought a 2022 Royal Enfield 650 INT new last year, just sold it with 5660 miles on it, no issues on that too.
I had a new V7 and owned it for just over 3 years. Under warranty I had 2 electrical problems fixed. Just out of warranty the rev counter needle fell off. Also on one service they upgraded my ECU for free which made the bike a little more sporty, but made the throttle response jerky. I part exchanged the bike for an Interceptor 650 for very little money and have had no problems at all with it in 4 years. I loved the V7 and had always wanted to own a Guzzi. Unfortunatley I won't buy another Italian bike as my Aprilia Pegaso 650 broke down up a mountain in France and I had to fly home.
Thank you for sharing the whole story over this long time. I got a V7 stone last year and had more luck - great bike and I enjoy every ride😊. Waiting for your next story ...👍👋
My guess for your new bike is either Aprilia Tuono 660 if you go for a lightweight fun bike, or a Moto Guzzi V100 Stelvio if you go for comfort on bad roads!
Seems like a super smooth ride with seamless performance. Guzzi is right on with its styling. If you like an r model bmw, you will love a guzzi. These people have been in the game for a long time and it takes a lot of careful consideration to maintain a brand for a great length of time. These guys are doing it very well.
A big thumbs up to the sound quality on this video clip. Very pleasant to listen to.
The fact that you had a check engine light, if it were me, it would drive me nuts! Yup, I’d trade it, if it couldn’t be fixed.
I have the same V7 as you, that blue colour is stunning, the Special with its lovely proper clocks I find reminds me of the bikes I rode when I learnt to ride in the early 80’s. It’s a proper bike and it’s lovely to ride around the roads of the Lake District where I’m fortunate to live, where roads and sheep prevent fast riding! I’m keeping mine forever! I have 2 other bikes to tick the other boxes! Nothing beats the looks of the classic Guzzi in stunning blue, it’s stolen my heart!
All valid issues to point out, mate...keep up the good work. All the best from Tasmania.
PS...I ride a KTM 890r Duke now, and would highly recommend it.
Lovely bike, try to ignore the idiots. Sorry to hear of the issues you’ve had to resolve.
First time i took my brand new GoldStar out last year the engine light stayed on which immediately made me wary and i returned home. Took it back to the dealer who sorted it and its never done it since, but I'm with you when lights come on or worse stay on you are bound to think the worse.
The Moto Guzzzi community is a plus. Many owners do their own service and are very helpful and enthusiastic IMO.
But I'm guessing you will get an Aprilia.
I'm sorry you got trouble like this with your Guzzi. By the way: I proudly owned a Guzzi 850T in 1974 (one out of two in Germany at that time). I loved it.
Agree with everything you say except one thing, I fitted the dart marlin screen to mine and it's fundamentally changed how i feel about the bike at A road speeds. Without a screen 💯 agreed the bike wants to be ridden at 50 and is really tiring above. Its really surprised me as the bike is still lovely on back roads but has much more touring potential, and is perfectly happy pressing on.
No bike is perfect. It is how the dealer / manufacturer takes care of you that matters.
I seriously thought about a V7 (no chrome) as a first big bike in the last couple of months. I passed my Mod tests on a 750gs so ended up that route as would still be looking half way thru 2024 before I settled.
BUT... my heart was really wanting a 2024 V85TT. So maybe in a couple of years when I retire, that may be the bike for me. I love my BMW but I feel the MG would have been a little less aggressive attitude without quickshifter and in a different class.
I really hope the buyer views your stuff online and really appreciates your positivity.
If it were me i think I'd find peace in this.
Who wouldn't be peed off buying something and then having an issue with it. It's only natural. Those negative folks saying other things obviously have been blessed to have no issues with anything in their lives to date. It takes an edge off a perfect experience and that's what you don't want.
Looking forward to your new ride!
It sounds like the big Beemer should be the bike to go. Maybe?
I wouldn’t have a clue as to which bike you’d go after next.
Good luck with the choice. 👍
I bought a used 2018 V7iii Milano with only 700 miles on it. According to the dealer, it was bought new by one of their service techs. Soon after I bought it, the check engine light came on. Took it back and they diagnosed it as a faulty oxygen sensor in the left exhaust pike. They replace this (at my cost since the bike was out of warranty), and the light went out. The bike has also had problems of intermittent stalling for no reason at a stop, and intermittent start button not working. Both very frustrating and dangerous conditions since, on several occasions, the bike stalled at a busy red light and I could not re-start it! Haven't decided yet if I'm going to keep it or not, but it will be hard to sell with these unresolved issues, so I feel stuck with it at this point.
That’s frustrating to say the least - hope you get it sorted.
2024 Moto Guzzi Stelvio
Great video on the reality of riding in the uk ! I’ve just sold my bike again 😢after months and months of rain 🌧️ I’ve lost the motivation to ride here, that’s why I’m watching your video 👍 I’m guessing you’ll be buying a V 100 ???
It boggles the mind that the manufacturer doesnt know what a error code means. Someone wrote the ecu program and created the code for a purpose, supposabley.
I have heard the new HD sportster S creates many codes. A tech mentioned that they think software is to sensitive. A voltage fluctuation can throw a code.
Good luck with the new machine. I've the V7 Stone, it's a joy to own and ride.
I have been thinking of buying this exact bike, thanks for the insight
Wannabe rider here, have loved your videos on the V7, would love to have one. I suspect MG don’t understand the software on their bikes as they probably don’t make it! Probably a third party sells it to a lot of manufacturers, so when there’s a glitch, they all suffer. Glad you had a positive experience overall, thought your comments were very balanced. Subscribed.
I bought a BMW R1250RT a few years ago. Check engine light came on early in my ownership experience. After 10 weeks at the shop all they could say was "electrical anomaly". I couldn't risk that on a planned 8000 mile ride in the middle of the western U.S.. Traded it for a Goldwing. I am giving BMW another chance with a R1250R.
I also have a Mandello V100. So far, I am really enjoying it. The transmission is clunky, but I can live with it. I discovered a secret about the handlebar vibrations. The black Guzzi crash bars work well as vibration dampeners.
Thanks for your honesty
Owned 2 V7's.My first one was a
mark || stone,pretty good just 10hp short and if you would start riding withing the first minute after start up it would die 😮 owned the same special as you do in this video and power was on point 👌 but drove it in the rain and frost a couple of times and it already started rusting everywhere.
I bought it because of the shaft drive and big tank (of course the looks) ideal comuter bike... Absolutely not,it's a fair weather bike to go on light trips.
And before people start saying I didn't take care,I wiped it down and even cleaned it if I had to after every ride.
Far a 9000 euro bike the quality is just not enough...
Why do people still equate Euro with quality? 🤣 If you want a quality mechanical product you buy Japanese.
What is the word coming to when you not supposed complain about your new bike, I had a BMW R100 RS well over 20 years ago which was rubbish I still complain about.
I tried the V7 last year and I felt in love with it. This bike is alive, easy, charismatic. Just great and different.
I’m just a bit worried about reliability, and the fact that there is no more dealer close to Brussels (closest is 100km away).
I fully agree that you should make the distinction between the bike (or car) and its brand. I own a Tesla and I don't agree at all with Musk’s opinions. But the car is fantastic, I enjoy driving it every day.
So, yes, the V7 will certainly replace my old 19 yo BMW. If I find a dealer...
In fact this is one advantage of modern classic bikes over the sportier ones: they handle similarly when you have a pillion and you can as well enjoy the ride the same. Having a pillion on an ultimately sport bike just ruins the way it handles.
I have heard many stories from over the years that Piaggio are a nightmare to be a dealer for. I rejected a brand new Vespa 150PX in 2016 under the Sale of Goods Act that was showing rust on various parts. I don’t have faith in them for quality control or managing to build increasingly complex electronics that are reliable.
I am also 100% with you on your "Apple" statements!!!
Oh... as for my guess for your next bike, I wish for you to buy a MotoGuzzi V100 Mandello, as it is the most enjoyable bike I 've ever ridden (although a bit heavy). But my bet is that you will buy an Aprilia Tuono 660.
I completely agree with you and I'm a Moto Guzzi fan. New bike could be a V100 in white.
I took delivery of a brand new 2023 V7 Special (1 mile) in April. I had the first service done at 900 miles before the service light came on. The tech said I should have waited for it to come on before bringing it in for service but said he could help me over the phone to reset it. Oddly, it never came on before or after service. That troubles me!
The Guzzi Stelvio in green and silver
Mandello S in green and white
I feel your pain when your bike gets wet and muddy. Takes me an age to clean mine and I am a bit ocd too! Never ridden a guzzi but I do like them, along with bmw boxers, quirky, characterful bikes.
I have often had a ‘last ride’ before changing bikes, I tend not to nowadays because the bike always feels lovely and I wonder why I’m doing it. I’ve had Guzzi’s and they are very fondly remembered.
How about the Triumph T120 or the Moto Guzzi V100? I felt the V7 was just a tad too small and moving to a MG Audace was too heavy without a reverse, I'm leaning towards the Bonneville but really love Moto Guzzi's. Blaze on with whatever you discover.
Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello.. pearlrscent white.
I like the Aviazione Navale version, very elegant. Cheers
its the new Stellvio you bought! :p
V85TT Strada 😋
I find it astonishing that people will dismiss a warning light as nothing to worry about! Just ignore it? I'd certainly not buy a bike off anyone who is that blasé about that! And the Euro5 comment was obviously made by someone who has not owned another Euro5 bike! The 2021 Honda CB500X , the 2022 Triumph Street Scrambler 900 that I've owned recently and my current 2022 Triumph Tiger 850 Sport, all Euro5 and not one of them displaying any kind of engine warning lights during my ownership!
Unfortunately mate, you'll always get the keyboard warriors showing up when you're trying to do anything online. Good luck with your next bike.
If it's any consolation Mr CG, I would feel just as aggrieved as you did had I bought a brand new bike which then displayed a check engine warning light. It was a fault, end of.
With regard to your comment about sportsbikes and not being able to use the power/traffic volume problems etc, I think it depends where in the UK you live. Luckily the area where I live has superb twisty rural roads, hardly any traffic, and very little Police presence, but I'm not gonna say where that is!
Sorry to hear the Guzzi is going, as it is what first attracted me to your channel. A beautiful looking bike, I hope I get to own an identical one some day!
My guess on the new bike is an Aprillia RS660 in black/red. Whadidiwin???
Beautiful bike! I had a 73 850 eldorado😊
Those were far more beautiful and a better quality machine imo.. I owned a BMW R75/5 and my buddy owned a black 73 Eldorado. The year was 1985 and we were both 19.. I wouldn't touch a European motorcycle made after 2000. IMO all the Euro brands are living on past glory. Same for their cars. They are generally overly complex and unreliable. MT07 / 09 are miles ahead of any naked Euro bikes.
V85tt e5+ red/white
Very fare concern on your part. I too would be worried about an engine warning light.
I reckon a Guzzi V85 tt in green / silver, subscribed!
I am fortunate to have had many motorcycles, a few of which have been Guzzi's.
Got to admit I was mortified when Piaggio took them over, as the way they had obliterated the history of the Gilera marque when they took it over made me fear for Guzzi's future.
What you said in your summing up about company policies has made me perhaps consider a V7 at some point. :)
Maybe a yellow Guzzi Stelvio or a green V1000 as the new bike? With the all new Guzzi engine
V100 Mandello S in the only color available? Well I know that it comes in grey as well but why? I do the same thing by the way just with old bikes. I have a 1992 Kawasaki GTR for touring and a 1990 Suzuki GS 500 for shits and giggles. Been thinking about upgrading the Suzuki to the V7 special that you're riding but only in the blue. fantastic looking bike. The only reason I'm considering the change is for the shaft drive. Every time I ride my Suzuki I'm thinking, what the hell is that noise? It's the chain!
Motto Guzzi v85tt grey in colour
If a company has a bad ethos - the Apple ones you mention are prime examples - it does affect my feelings towards the products and would taint my potential enjoyment of it, so I don't buy their products. I certainly don't feel that I'm punishing myself. There are plenty of alternatives to choose from.
Aprilia Tuono V4.. Red I guess. I would have said the 660 but more power was mentioned. I would get the RS 660 in the shitty nappy yellow colour(great look). Always liked the V7 special. Clean look. Reminds me of the Yamaha RD’s styling I rode back in the late 70’s.
BMW R nineT in white? 🙏 fingers crossed your next bike is more reliable and enjoyable thank the MG V7!
Thank you.
Aprilia Tuareg 660cc Martian Red
Because that's what I did, from a 750cc 2009 Moto Guzzi V7 Classic Bianco Diamante (pearlescent White) & regretted it!
Interesting observation / comment. 👍. I have a Tuareg 660 and have done a couple of tours in France with it. Both times on the Aprilia have been excellent. I'm two weeks away from my next one which is a mini tour in Brittany on my V7 850 Special. Exciting times!
Clearly you've gone for an Aprilia Tuono 660 in black and red
I'm guessing you have bought a Aprilia Tuareg, the blue and silverr one.
Cheers!
I wish I had given this bike a look before buying my '24 Speed Twin 900. I'm very happy with it, but this may have been even more to my liking. Maybe I'll find one I can test ride someday.
I've just chopped my V7 850 special in for a BMW r1200rs. Had the Guzzi for a year or so,did some good runs round Scotland and enjoyed it very much. But, needed more oomph and I'm finding the bm ideal. Nowhere near as much character, and I don't get surrounded by old blokes for a chat about it. I may get another in a year or two, for Sunday rides out. Bye bye Guzzi, its been fun.
My guess is that your new bike will be a 2024 V85 TT (Euro 5+) in Rosso Fuji
I think it's a moto guzzi v100s mandello,green with the brown seat.
I will be ordering a guzzi v7 special edition next month,like you not a fan of the dash,but love the arrow pipes,red shocks etc.
Change the tank design and I might consider it better than Triumph Bobber. 👍
Maybe next bike will be Aprilia Tuono 660?
I am 46 and I dont have a bike licence (yet). I used to drive moped as a kid. Im in love with this. The feel from the vids, the looks ... and I really dream owning and riding it. But people tell me that I should start with 125ccm. What do you think? Should I start with 125 ccm or is this bike beginner friendly?
Hi Nambr, well I can't tell you with what you should start, but the limit of 125ccm is to profane in my opinion. I started 5 years ago with a RE Classic 500 with 27 PS. Absolutely lovely for beginners. Have not ridden bigger bikes yet, but I consider to switch to the Guzzi V7 now. But i think you might start even with the guzzi, if you approach it with the due respect. No need to climb the engine sizes up like a ladder 😊
I did my test and went straight onto a 650. We’re all different. You have to go with what you feel comfortable with.
Can’t call you Dangerous Dayv and the Hipster machine now.
My guess is the Simp Special V100 Mandello in Grandpa green.
How do you like to clean your bike top to bottom? What system and/or products?
New bikes not giving access to the error codes is a real problem, I have a friend with a v85tt that has a similar issue, this is an adventure style bike for going on long journeys and suddenly you have no idea why the engine light is on, therefore another trip back to the dealer to check what code it's displaying, only to be told it's a throttle response issue or a oil pressure issue or a cruise control fault, all of which are no longer present. Therefore all confidence in the bike is lost and the round the world tour is on hold for ever as these issues are not likely to ever get fixed as they are so intermittent. For me new bikes have become overly complicated, in the old days the only light you would ever see is the oil light, no other warnings at all. The only way around this is to buy an obd2 reader and even that can't reset the engine light, it will just tell you what error you have, unless you pay out over £300 for a specific piaggio one. Manufactures need to at the very least offer a diagnostic on the bike to display the error severity, so at least you know if the bike is ok to continue riding. I love Moto Guzzi but they are really not convincing me to buy a new one anytime soon, along with this issue is the constant changing of dealerships that can service them. My guess would be you are buying the V100.
@Paulcooper5610 You can tell the severity of an engine light by common sense and reasoning. If you're not hearing any abnormal noises and the bike is otherwise running fine, fluids are at proper levels, etc. it's very likely not serious. If the engine sounds like a roll of quarters in a washing machine, or it If can't stay running, it's time to phone a friend or a tow truck. Long distance touring is a game of no guarantees. If you're not prepared to be broken down on the side of the road for any number of reasons, you have no business setting out in the first place. I agree that dealers should make it easier for riders to read codes, but how will that help you when you're in the middle of nowhere?
Well it’s a shame you have been put off as your bike is a beautiful machine. It’s your opinion and others should respect that. If I had your hassle I would have done the same. Let’s hope Motorcyclist Guzzi has learned a lesson in customer service.
Moto Guzzi, good ole predictive…
Not put off, just fancied a change. 👍🏻
Those complaining you weren't happy with a check engine light on a new bike are an odd minority. And they're also a problem. Manufacturers and dealers know these people exist and are very vocal, and it helps them. Or at least takes pressure off them. And the rest of us can end up being ripped off if we let it continue. Why should anyone just accept spending thousands of hard earned cash on something that is not right? It's bizzare.
Don't let them get to you - after all they are the oddballs, it's not like their logic counts for much.
I think you will buy a Moto Guzzi Mandello in silver/green 😊
V85TT Travel GRIGIO GRIGNA
Maybe the check engine light is a false indication and only a wiring problem
It was an issue with the map. Moto Guzzi revised it and my bike got updated. Fine since.
@@CGRidesMotorcycles Modern sensors & software that sample everything thousands of times a second will probably generate codes that aren't an issue to the engine or won't be noticeable on a dyno and definitely impossible for the rider to notice. But as you say, an engine fault light will impact the value at resale, especially a sale to a private buyer. Personally, it wouldn't bother me ... if the oil pressure is good (and why wouldn't it be?), the spark plugs are showing a good colour and the engine pulls well through the rev range (under acceleration or just cruising), then I wouldn't hesitate to buy the bike. Why? Because it's one of the BEST LOOKING Guzzis ever made (colour scheme, chrome accents) and it should just keep on keeping on. If the human body was a machine, it would be showing fault codes all the time :)
if you pay that much for a bike , it should be right straight out of the box
Tuareg 660 in black?
I had the same bike which I bought from new and sold it three months later.
Too many faults and quality issues.
A great bike to ride, but terrible to own.
Sorry to hear that 😩
Is there an OBD port on the bike that users could plug asimple bluetooth dongle like a Carista into and read codes themselves?
There is. I don't think it's a standard OBD - it's the smaller variety so you need an adapter. It wouldn't have helped much with this situation, but I'm sure there are plenty of other things which could be DIY fixed.
Not sure where your coming from, kind of contradicted yourself really, got rid of a pocket rocket to get a modern classic that you can still enjoy, now going back to a pocket rocket 🤔🤔?? I have an Interceptor, but quite like the Guzzi though. 😊
Aprilia Tuono 660 factory. White.
Duke Monster ... in good nick.
Aprilia 900 naked!
You are going for a Ducati Diavel V4😅
Get a yamaha mt09 tracer. Torque , comfort
RS 660 in acid yellow