Well, I have 3 Emotiva mono blocks for the LR and CTR channels and a Topping dac D 90 and 3 subs and I shall use them all! I think it is the most updated receiver on the mkt at a great price!
I think these will sell very well. I too have three Emotiva mono blocks - nice to have that in common. I should try a Topping DAC sometime. Using MOTU M4 (based on ESS Sabre32 Ultra DAC) currently with good results. Jon
Thank you for this great tutorial: We now need a comparison between some of these similar receivers: The Marantz Cinema 40 - Arcam AVR21 - Antham MX740 - I would imagine that with some many running channels that this receiver will get very hot and may need an external fan.?
With all your recent reviews talking about marantz 50 not having the best sound quality, and the antham av disater you had, this integra is looking mighty fine. Hoping it is as good as other reviewers are saying.
Thank you so much, I was about to buy the Marantz Cinema 40, I have my LCR in XLR balanced so this Integra is perfect for me. I also have a Mini DSP for the subwoofers so only 2 outputs don't bother me. And in addition there is the possibility of upgrading to Dirac Live Bass Control. Very cool. I will wait to buy it
The Integra does appear to provide a higher value solution at a lower cost. The XLR balanced capabilities certainly raises the bar - Marantz take notice your top of line AVR has no XLR - Denon does, but only at $6,500! I still find value in using the Mini DSP despite having calibration support from DIRAC and others. -Jon
Great review Jon! For music does it allow for streaming a local music library from a device like a NAS? Update: It will allow if it supports DNLA protocol. Most NAS devices do.
I really like the build layout and all the connection options on this receiver. Having Dirac included is nice. The zone 2 sub connection is interesting as i run multiple outside zones off 2 different receivers and if i could get a outside sub i could make use of that. wife might think its a bit ridicules to have outside subs!
I am with you on the outside sub. Wish I had one to go with my Polk Atrium speakers. It is okay to be a bit ridiculous. Your guests will notice the difference, but don't expect everyone to get why. -Jon
The impressive thing about the dirac bass is, availability now. Unlike the 2024 expected date from the new denon and marantz. Closest thing to this things capability is arcam 41 which is almost double the cost. This is definitely on my list because I trust it. I have an onkyo rz50, so I know the brand and trust it, but I also really want to try out the new Sony line for their 360 sound mapping
I would likely choose the DRX 3.4. I've actually seen open box units going for $1300 -- which is a great deal for something with all those channels of processing and DIRAC. I wish it had some balanced outputs tho, but that is really unheard of at that price. I am using a Emotiva BasX amp anyway that doesn't have balanced inputs.
One important update to this excellent coverage is that Dirac base management is included at no additional cost unlike almost every other brand that charges up to $500 extra for it.
Integra products excite me on their insides but lose me on their outsides…ie looks. When you spend this amount of money (or more) for a receiver or processor, one should be buying both a tremendous sounding piece AND a piece of art that looks great on the outside IMHO. Integra has obviously targeted the customer who does not care about looks (vs the great sound & looks of say Emotiva; Marantz AV10; or Mac gear). There is a lot packed in there for your money though and I’m very happy to see Auro 3D support for Auromatic upmixing of music sources. Great review Jon. Keep em’ coming’ buddy.
I agree on the looks. But happy they decided to first focus on features and sound while keeping the price down. I suspect that round two with these new owners will bring a cosmetic refresh to Onkyo/Pioneer/Integra products. -Jon
Hey Guys, I'm now buying an Integra and I've also been thinking about it: the design is rather plain, but I don't think it's cheap and in comparison: I don't like Marantz's design at all, so that's really a reason for me not to buy it.
Love the balance i/o but feel for the majority of us HT fans they will go unused. The XLR cables also bring in another cost factor, but all said I would like the option.
Fair points. Just neat to see a brand trying a different mix. As their flagship it is the right model to add in some of the more advanced options like XLR ins/outs.
Hi there, great piece of gear if and only if, the reliability is there ! was not the case for the earlier late models. A good question is, do the amp section is fully or partially disconnectable like the curent Denon or Marantz models in a Prepro config in order to use full external amplification and a gain in consumption and SN ratio and a decreasing heating ?!?
I did hear of the quality and customer response issue which Onkyo, Integra, Pioneer had in recent years. I suspect that was in part to designs which were finalized while the original owners were still in control. We are hopeful that VOXX is driving quality into the design and the initial images of their first release post acquisition look promising - a big step up. I am unable to find any evidence of being able to disconnect internal amplifiers for improved performance like Denon/Marantz. I would like to see them add that in and also release an AV Processor separate for each brand. Jon
I think it could be a very great unit for someone that does not have a lot of space however, for someone like myself. I like to have separate amplifiers, for what I want to power and with external amplifiers, you're not really closing the door to upgrading but I greatly do appreciate the review and I think from what I can tell so far it looks like a good AV.
Even for the extra $1000.00 over the Emotiva MR1, it's worth saving for. Offers a lot more for marginally less. The new Emotiva only has HDMI 2.0, no Wi-Fi capability / I'm all in for this new Integra.
I agree! The MR1 may sound great -- hard to say without hearing it -- but it is really lacking in features. Including DIRAC with it would have been a real game changer! I think it's a real misstep for Emotiva, but I could be wrong. Only time will tell I guess.
Are you looking for Wi-Fi (a wireless connection to the internet) or are you looking for streaming services? or both? In my case I prefer a wired Ethernet connection for its reliability and throughput. However, I understand why many would want the convenience of wireless to access the internet services. Integra does offer great value. -Jon
For Emotiva Dirac you jump from the MR-1 ($1999) to the XMC-2 ($2,499) + BasX A5 ($599) + BasX A6 ($649) = $3,747 The Integra DRX-8.4 = $3,200 with an all-in-one solution + other features. If it sound great! they will sell sell sell! Sony STR-AZ5000ES = $2,099 - also a 11 channel contender, but not Dirac Jon
@@ripewave I guess I was mainly thinking of auto calibration. I have heard that EmoQ isn't that great. I would like to see something like DIRAC or ARC in this price range.
Calling these a x.4 AVRs is decieving people. They have only 2 independent subwoofer output, so they should be called x.2 If you want a true x.4, go with the new Denon/Marantz AVRs
Integra is doing with .4 now the same thing brands have been doing with .2 for year - attempting to deceive those that haven’t studied the details. We can make any independent dual subwoofer output (true .2) AVR a .4 using a splitter. I work hard on this channel to identify the truly independent outputs. The latest Denon/Marantz are the lowest cost AVRs out there with 4 independent subwoofer outputs. Now they just need room calibration that will address multi-sub. I understand the March Dirac upgrade won’t provide that functionality. Jon
No - sound may actually improve. If you have less speakers to drive with the internal amplifiers, they results will likely improve. The extra channel provide a more immersive sound, not necessarily better sound. -Jon
@@ripewave Thanks for all of your help. I am looking for an AVR because I am currently using an older Arcam integrated, but its all analogue. I need to use a converter to connect to my TV and DVD player. I don't like it. Its not ideal.
I believe there is only the ability to remap for bi-amplification of the front left, right and center channels. For that, Height 1 reassigns as Front L/R Bi-amp and Height 2 L reassigns to Bi-amp center. Also Height 1 and Height 2 can be reassigned to a passive subwoofers. Other than that, assigning is not necessary as there is an amplification (x11) for every channel of a 7.x.4 configuration. I don't see an option to turn off an amplifier channel if you are using external amplifiers. Jon
Call me old school but I am a big fan of emotiva amplifiers I really like having my cake and eat it too so I like having separate amplifiers to what I prefer but this is a great receiver with all the amplification built in however I like having separate amps that's just my opinion we all have one thanks for the review😊
This receiver, in my opinion is a really great bit of kit. The internal components are top top notch, way better the the Denon A1H and at half the price. If this comes to the UK I am getting one. I am well impressed at this price point.
All the 2023 models regardless of brand, you will not get release answers. I have contacted several Australian Hi-fi shops for 3 different brands and models and none of them can give me an answer for when they will receive these products because they simply don't know themselves. All of them have on their websites, purchase now, but on backorder. So, we just have to sit and wait...maybe Christmas at this rate???
Reached out to Integra and they did not awnser any phone calls or return any messages or emails. By by integra forever.no customer service. Horrible service.
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Awesome! I'm pretty stoked about this AVR, On paper it checks all the marks for me. Hoping for some video and written reviews soon. Cheers!
Well, I have 3 Emotiva mono blocks for the LR and CTR channels and a Topping dac D 90 and 3 subs and I shall use them all! I think it is the most updated receiver on the mkt at a great price!
I think these will sell very well. I too have three Emotiva mono blocks - nice to have that in common. I should try a Topping DAC sometime. Using MOTU M4 (based on ESS Sabre32 Ultra DAC) currently with good results. Jon
Thank you for this great tutorial: We now need a comparison between some of these similar receivers: The Marantz Cinema 40 - Arcam AVR21 - Antham MX740 - I would imagine that with some many running channels that this receiver will get very hot and may need an external fan.?
With all your recent reviews talking about marantz 50 not having the best sound quality, and the antham av disater you had, this integra is looking mighty fine.
Hoping it is as good as other reviewers are saying.
Thank you so much, I was about to buy the Marantz Cinema 40, I have my LCR in XLR balanced so this Integra is perfect for me. I also have a Mini DSP for the subwoofers so only 2 outputs don't bother me. And in addition there is the possibility of upgrading to Dirac Live Bass Control. Very cool. I will wait to buy it
The Integra does appear to provide a higher value solution at a lower cost. The XLR balanced capabilities certainly raises the bar - Marantz take notice your top of line AVR has no XLR - Denon does, but only at $6,500! I still find value in using the Mini DSP despite having calibration support from DIRAC and others. -Jon
Great review Jon! For music does it allow for streaming a local music library from a device like a NAS? Update: It will allow if it supports DNLA protocol. Most NAS devices do.
I really like the build layout and all the connection options on this receiver. Having Dirac included is nice. The zone 2 sub connection is interesting as i run multiple outside zones off 2 different receivers and if i could get a outside sub i could make use of that. wife might think its a bit ridicules to have outside subs!
I am with you on the outside sub. Wish I had one to go with my Polk Atrium speakers. It is okay to be a bit ridiculous. Your guests will notice the difference, but don't expect everyone to get why. -Jon
The impressive thing about the dirac bass is, availability now.
Unlike the 2024 expected date from the new denon and marantz.
Closest thing to this things capability is arcam 41 which is almost double the cost.
This is definitely on my list because I trust it. I have an onkyo rz50, so I know the brand and trust it, but I also really want to try out the new Sony line for their 360 sound mapping
Pricing right does matter. Onkyo/Integra/Pioneer and Sony posts I make always get a lot of hits. - Jon
I would likely choose the DRX 3.4. I've actually seen open box units going for $1300 -- which is a great deal for something with all those channels of processing and DIRAC. I wish it had some balanced outputs tho, but that is really unheard of at that price. I am using a Emotiva BasX amp anyway that doesn't have balanced inputs.
The feature set including DIRAC at that price is a great value.
One important update to this excellent coverage is that Dirac base management is included at no additional cost unlike almost every other brand that charges up to $500 extra for it.
Integra products excite me on their insides but lose me on their outsides…ie looks. When you spend this amount of money (or more) for a receiver or processor, one should be buying both a tremendous sounding piece AND a piece of art that looks great on the outside IMHO. Integra has obviously targeted the customer who does not care about looks (vs the great sound & looks of say Emotiva; Marantz AV10; or Mac gear). There is a lot packed in there for your money though and I’m very happy to see Auro 3D support for Auromatic upmixing of music sources. Great review Jon. Keep em’ coming’ buddy.
When I first learned that Auro3D was coming to this model in the near future I first thought of you. -Jon
I agree on the looks. But happy they decided to first focus on features and sound while keeping the price down. I suspect that round two with these new owners will bring a cosmetic refresh to Onkyo/Pioneer/Integra products. -Jon
I love the timeless look. No chinzy garbage.
Hey Guys, I'm now buying an Integra and I've also been thinking about it: the design is rather plain, but I don't think it's cheap and in comparison: I don't like Marantz's design at all, so that's really a reason for me not to buy it.
Love the balance i/o but feel for the majority of us HT fans they will go unused. The XLR cables also bring in another cost factor, but all said I would like the option.
Fair points. Just neat to see a brand trying a different mix. As their flagship it is the right model to add in some of the more advanced options like XLR ins/outs.
This would be my choice if I ever get rid of the rz50 but for now it will do the 8.4 is a total monster
Hi there, great piece of gear if and only if, the reliability is there ! was not the case for the earlier late models. A good question is, do the amp section is fully or partially disconnectable like the curent Denon or Marantz models in a Prepro config in order to use full external amplification and a gain in consumption and SN ratio and a decreasing heating ?!?
I did hear of the quality and customer response issue which Onkyo, Integra, Pioneer had in recent years. I suspect that was in part to designs which were finalized while the original owners were still in control. We are hopeful that VOXX is driving quality into the design and the initial images of their first release post acquisition look promising - a big step up.
I am unable to find any evidence of being able to disconnect internal amplifiers for improved performance like Denon/Marantz.
I would like to see them add that in and also release an AV Processor separate for each brand.
Jon
@@ripewave Thanks Jon for these elements and the quality of your channel from a little frenchy ;)
Cyril
I think it could be a very great unit for someone that does not have a lot of space however, for someone like myself. I like to have separate amplifiers, for what I want to power and with external amplifiers, you're not really closing the door to upgrading but I greatly do appreciate the review and I think from what I can tell so far it looks like a good AV.
It is unfortunate that many brands don’t make a processor. That leaves internal amplifier channels unused. -Jon
Nice review, ty. I have the dr 3.4 , and would upgrade to this of the Sony ex 7000. I wish u can do a comparison between the two. ty
Good suggestion. I have been gearing up to facilitate such head-to-head comparisons with my A/B/C switch, external amps and REW. -Jon
Even for the extra $1000.00 over the Emotiva MR1, it's worth saving for. Offers a lot more for marginally less. The new Emotiva only has HDMI 2.0, no Wi-Fi capability / I'm all in for this new Integra.
I agree! The MR1 may sound great -- hard to say without hearing it -- but it is really lacking in features. Including DIRAC with it would have been a real game changer! I think it's a real misstep for Emotiva, but I could be wrong. Only time will tell I guess.
Are you looking for Wi-Fi (a wireless connection to the internet) or are you looking for streaming services? or both?
In my case I prefer a wired Ethernet connection for its reliability and throughput. However, I understand why many would want the convenience of wireless to access the internet services. Integra does offer great value. -Jon
I think Dirac is the biggest advantage Onkyo/Integra/Pioneer has over the market at their price point. -Jon
For Emotiva Dirac you jump from the MR-1 ($1999) to the XMC-2 ($2,499) + BasX A5 ($599) + BasX A6 ($649) = $3,747
The Integra DRX-8.4 = $3,200 with an all-in-one solution + other features. If it sound great! they will sell sell sell!
Sony STR-AZ5000ES = $2,099 - also a 11 channel contender, but not Dirac
Jon
@@ripewave I guess I was mainly thinking of auto calibration. I have heard that EmoQ isn't that great. I would like to see something like DIRAC or ARC in this price range.
What is the preamp out voltage for the integra drx 3.4?
Calling these a x.4 AVRs is decieving people. They have only 2 independent subwoofer output, so they should be called x.2 If you want a true x.4, go with the new Denon/Marantz AVRs
Integra is doing with .4 now the same thing brands have been doing with .2 for year - attempting to deceive those that haven’t studied the details. We can make any independent dual subwoofer output (true .2) AVR a .4 using a splitter. I work hard on this channel to identify the truly independent outputs.
The latest Denon/Marantz are the lowest cost AVRs out there with 4 independent subwoofer outputs. Now they just need room calibration that will address multi-sub. I understand the March Dirac upgrade won’t provide that functionality.
Jon
If I don't need all the channels, would I sacrifice sound quality by going with the 5.4?
No - sound may actually improve. If you have less speakers to drive with the internal amplifiers, they results will likely improve. The extra channel provide a more immersive sound, not necessarily better sound. -Jon
@@ripewave Thanks for all of your help. I am looking for an AVR because I am currently using an older Arcam integrated, but its all analogue. I need to use a converter to connect to my TV and DVD player. I don't like it. Its not ideal.
I wonder how many of the amplification are assignable
I believe there is only the ability to remap for bi-amplification of the front left, right and center channels. For that, Height 1 reassigns as Front L/R Bi-amp and Height 2 L reassigns to Bi-amp center. Also Height 1 and Height 2 can be reassigned to a passive subwoofers.
Other than that, assigning is not necessary as there is an amplification (x11) for every channel of a 7.x.4 configuration.
I don't see an option to turn off an amplifier channel if you are using external amplifiers.
Jon
Call me old school but I am a big fan of emotiva amplifiers I really like having my cake and eat it too so I like having separate amplifiers to what I prefer but this is a great receiver with all the amplification built in however I like having separate amps that's just my opinion we all have one thanks for the review😊
Sadly in our service centre DRX 5.4 came for troubleshooting.
This receiver, in my opinion is a really great bit of kit. The internal components are top top notch, way better the the Denon A1H and at half the price.
If this comes to the UK I am getting one. I am well impressed at this price point.
Great feedback - Certainly a higher value model then the Denon A1H. -Jon
Who owns classe now?
Masimo - they are the medical company that acquired Sound United last year. Sound United acquire Classe in 2018. -Jon
I live in Europe.
Where can I get one ?
Onkyo USA has no response...
Not sure. I suggest contacting the EMEA distributor, Premium Audio Company (PAC) first -
Their email is: support-emea@premiumaudiocompany.com
@@ripewave Thanks!
All the 2023 models regardless of brand, you will not get release answers. I have contacted several Australian Hi-fi shops for 3 different brands and models and none of them can give me an answer for when they will receive these products because they simply don't know themselves.
All of them have on their websites, purchase now, but on backorder.
So, we just have to sit and wait...maybe Christmas at this rate???
Could they make an uglier avr in 2023? Why aren't there anti trust laws prohibiting monopolies???
Don’t ask for good quality music in 2 channel it’s el horiliberly
So you don’t like this Integra for 2 channel I gather. -Jon
Reached out to Integra and they did not awnser any phone calls or return any messages or emails. By by integra forever.no customer service. Horrible service.
Sorry to hear that - good support is very important-Jon