Ip Man 4: How to Write Racism | Video Essay
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Accented Cinema - Episode 34
Ip Man 4 is a strange case where, its greatest sin is that it comes after Ip Man 2. In every way, it is a technically superior film to the second instalment of the series. At least, that was what I first thought.
With the world in its current state, my mindset has changed, and I find myself seeing a lot of details I missed in my first viewing. Turns out, Ip Man 4 has a heart that we all need right now.
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Could you do a video on "Letters From Iwo Jima"? It's such an impactful film to me because there's so much hatred towards the Japanese people (like me) among many countries and people. However, this film goes to show that despite the evils, horrors, and atrocities of war...at the end of the day, we're all human. I love this film because it shows the war from different perspectives, and doesn't promote or justify war. It's a beautiful and tragic piece of cinema. I'd hope that maybe you could look into it.
No, i will not judge you because of your ethnicity, but on your terrible taste of movies...
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Some comments and questions:
1:38 I never felt that there was ever a time in my life where racism had become a minor problem. It's always been somewhere within view, from my first memory of my grandfather accusing the government of being racist, to when I was complimented for my mastery of English, and finally to the rhetoric of the West today. It's always been there.
1:48 In the context of punching nazis, it actually did. Grassroots hate groups were suppressed by direct action from citizens; however, the hate became legitimized by the political establishment which took it off the streets and into policy, a place where citizens cannot easily punch.
Chapter 2 & 3: Do you feel that there is no meaningful distinction in the power dynamics between two discriminatory groups? You touched on the institutions of discrimination that exists in the corps and the SF martial arts community, but you don't seem to place any importance that the former is the face of the state , if not the nation, and the other is an oppressed community. It is fair to say they are both wrong, but clumsy and vulnerable to being co-opted by racists if you don't identify the magnitude of their effect and the material conditions which bring forth the discrimination.
@@rytacomoto739 Well, hatred is often more of i have a bad day lets get ride of it by hating someone... But i would like that the japanese people pressure their gouverment more to take some actions to show the world that they have changed and are not ignoring the guilty of their nations actions. Sure, the younger generations may have not committed those war crimes, but their history is based on what happened and if you just ignore this and take a position of ignorance you really cant go around playing the moral apostel and wondering why the people dont trust you. So lets say some people in China or whatever dont like your remembering places because they also glorify some war criminals, instead of just ignoring them you can try to come towards them with some information on those places of what happened or show the normal japanese people that their history is ambivalent, instead of washing it clean like som many countires do...
Just wanted to say that it really resonated with me when you started talking about how Bruce Lee was ostracized by his own community for teaching white people kung fu, but ultimately his efforts at cross-cultural exchange led to a greater acceptance of Asians among the American public. I get blasted a lot by other Chinese people for "pandering to white people," which always left me confused and hurt, but now I have a better idea of the psychology behind that, and yes, I will continue doing what I do too because I believe in demystifying Chinese culture.
Except he was not teaching kung-fu. Not even mentioning that chinise MAs are not viable for self-defence or any fight scenario.
@@SwordWieldingDuck Have you actually seen Chinese martial arts. In real life it looks alot like boxing and nothing like Wushu movies.
One thing about China is that it does not have a competitive fighting culture that nations like Thailand, Japan and Korea have. Combine that with the CCP wanting to "promote chinese culture" while at the same time not wanting to promote actual fighting as it is a threat to the state, its no surprise that the chinese martial arts community has been completely overtaken by frauds teaching nonsense like Tai Chi
@@lolwutyoumad i did exacly Wing Chun, and it is utter garbadge.
What you think of in Sanda. And even it is not as good as proper european MAs.
They are not frauds, they are actual practicioners. It is just traditional MAs are not effective by themselves. Also they all are new inventions, because if anyone actually thinks that striking techniques are ancient is an idiot.
@@SwordWieldingDuck So you tried a martial art without a culture of competitive fighting and are shocked that it wasn't good
thanks for proving my point idiot
@@SwordWieldingDuck He did start off teaching Kung Fu, and only developed his own style a little later in life.
“Even the best of us are not immune to the temptation of hate.” - that’s gotta be top 10 quotes for me, bud. Awesome job!
It's true. Mine comes in the form of black metal..
@@amlanshekharbaruah it is if race wasn't the/a circumstance/context/reason/etc for the killing..
It gets annoying being preemptively told/implied to that youre a bigot etc solely based on the color of your skin
@@brazenbull636 Except that it was. Otherwise we'd have an arrest on our hands not a murder.
Honestly while I agree with this quote I can't in the context of how Yang Zhang's presented it. Master Wan might be a racist against the racists but that precisely means he isn't giving into some "temptation of hate." He's surviving. It's what most of us have had to do.
In fact you can ask Fong Lee. See when George Floyd was murdered there was mass outrage. His murderers were then arrested and convicted and are now criminals including two other officers that were just around for the incident. Fong Lee on the other hand was shot four times in the back by an officer. Not only was that officer never charged and never arrested. He's not a commanding officer on the force and he received a medal of valor for his murder. Fong Lee was 19 years old.
@@maxverner2341 yea I still dont know about that. They were responding to him commiting a crime. Not for him being black..
"Any ground gained by 'them' means ground lost by 'us'."
A very apt portrayal of racism
And it extends to beyond racism too, the fear of losing something is often the drive for hatred, bullying and refusal to accept and cooperate.
Isn't that basic tribalism? Race just happens to be a form of group, like any other.
Classic game theory. Nothing new can be created, only re-allocated. It misses the point that everyone has potential to create something on their own if left in a vacuum. As long as everyone has space of body and mind, they usually are content to create something of their own within it (why I personally prefer rural living). Only the crooked look to invade other peoples spaces and possess it for themselves.
That's the problem. Us. Them. It's we. The sooner the world accepts that the better off it'll be.
majority inferior complex
Basically, racists see the world as a zero-sum game.
as an Irishman, I'd like to thank you for doing enough research to have discovered that as a people, we have often been mistreated by 'other whites' for various reasons throughout history. your thoughts on hatred requiring active, constant commitment were very insightful to me and struck a cord and given me something to think about. great video, thank you for presenting it :)
As an Irishman, I’m curious as to the treatment of the Irish in the UK during the coming campaign. Assuming you live in mainland UK and not Ireland, did you get any flack?
At first I thought Ip man was a movie about hackers stealing your IP address. It was a movie deeper than that.
you should watch the first IP man, my dude Donnie Yen hacks 10 guy at the same time. the Japanese imperial cyber commander was quite impressed.
@@wangruochuan Ok this one is funnier.
I thought that for years too!! And it took me forever to realize that "Ip Man" is a full name 😩
@@MG-sx8gw Lol this was meant to be a joke. But seriously how does it take you long to realize that Ip man was the protagonist name?
I always thought it was pronounced IP Man, and that it was about a guy who could travel through IP addresses in some kind of cyber war, but then I watched the movie and was like, hold up how is this guy going to travel through the internet if no one has a computer?
"Everyone believes they are a good person." This is such a simple but profound statement, and the root of so much righteous conflict throughout our world and history. Beautifully stated analysis, and beautifully made video.
As a Christian I do not believe I am a good person. Any true christian thinks only God is good. The rest of us are wretches styruggling to become Christ-like.
Both of these replies drive home the point. I was raised Christian also, and now consider myself atheist. I know that I am flawed. I also tend to think I'm a good person, on the whole. I try to fix my flaws and I strive to be better. One could describe this as a strive to be Christ-like. We're parsing sematics here with the term "good." I (and I believe Accented Cinema) am not saying that a "good person" is a "perfect person." In other words, I think most of us consider ourselves somewhere between "wretch" and "Christ-like", and probably erring on the side of "better than not".
We are all motivated to do what we think is the right thing to do. Otherwise we wouldn't do it. I have never met someone who could not justify the way they live their life, even if our lives are wildly different. If there was a single way to be "good", every life would be identical, but they are not, and yet we all believe we are doing the right thing.
Agreed
The comments here are beyond insightful. I know it's not much to talk about but I struggle with spirituality since my Family is prodominantly Catholic but I'm leaning more towards Buddhism (Shinto Buddhism to be exact) as well I struggle a lot to be the mature person I try to emulate. I want to flow like water in the sense nothing will ever hurt me and I can just be flexible in my thinking. But deep down I know that I'm more of a mountain than a stream. I am too ridged and too set in my ways. I'm nearly immovable at times. But like any mountain given time I know I can erode this way of thinking and eventually become a stream.
That is SO not true.
I wake up everyday thinking I'm a rude, insensitive, emotionless, selfish asshole.
My only respite is knowing that other people aren't much better judging by their words+ actions.
Back in college a Philipino friend and I (Vietnamese) were talking about how dumb our languages can be sometimes.
A white girl in the back of the class called us both out for being racist towards Asians. Saying we are uneducated and
should take more diversity and inclusion courses so we would understand why we are racist and bigoted.
I agree with you that bad people don't think they are bad people. But I don't think it's hatred that comes first and rationalization second.
I think it is people that want to feel like a hero and are blinded by self-righteousness.
/ hi V-gang :D
/also i agree that sometimes people just wants to feel like a hero and does the wrong thing. it what causes gate-keeping and unwanted hate :(
@@jenniferchaulam gate keeping aren't bad, closing the door toward someone who only wish to cause trouble/harm is like stopping a bomb from being planted inside a bunker. What's bad is when the gate-keeping keep more people who genuinely want to become part of the community out than people who just want to cause harm/trouble. Moderation is key
Uh, like from the Philippines? Um, please don't take it the wrong way because it's Filipino not Philipino. Just wanted to clear that up and correct you. ✌️
@@argeraint Ah thanks yeah us engineers are not known for our spelling lol
@@fvb7 lol it's alright haha
As someone who struggles with his own accent on a daily basis, it is inspiring to watch your videos!
Accent english, we deserve RESPECT!! We are not dumb!!!
His accent gets better and better at each vid he makes, unlike some native speakers who doesn't improve their langage level since middle school.
@@happylobsterpatatas * Don't *
@@bishop51807 lol
@@happylobsterpatatas Language level? Its just an accent no accent is better than any other
"But to a racist; Any ground gained by 'them' is ground lost by 'us'."
Great quote. The fear of losing something of theirs instead thinking of gaining something of others.
A zero-sum game, if you will.
"To the privileged, someone else becoming equal to them feels like oppression."
If you let someone take to much from you soon you'll have nothing. Write that down.
@@leeroy4958 Someone getting an advantage they didn't have before isn't necessarily taking something from you nor should you default to them using the new advantage TO take something from you. Fear is what makes people hate each other for no reason. Arnold Schwarzenegger even today could kick just about anyone's ass. Does he? Doesn't appear so, but that's an advantage he has. Don't worry about these things until it actually happens. Default to altruism and empathy, and you'll find it easier to actually determine who is a threat and who isn't because defaulting to everyone of 'a certain kind' are a threat harms everyone you ever meet.
All who hold power feared losing it, which is the mind of those who lack humility even in the slightest.
White girl:This has been OUR land for generations!
Native Americans:Bruh
Lmao
How in the fuck do I fix my comment
Marigold._ Thanks
And the native americans originated from asia, and all humans originated from Ethiopia. This is proof that "homelands" are subjective and shouldn't dictate where someone is allowed to live.
Our land
“I have been accused of pro China, I have been accused of anti China, in the same video”. Enough for me to be a subscriber
I subscribed at the same point 😁👍
I think the content creator is just pro excellent analysis. I have had many Chinese friends and I really do wish some people in this world did not see colour or race - just respect.
same.
When you've been accused of two directly opposite things these days, it generally means that you're actually at a pretty good place when it comes to the subject in question.
Same here! I am an American-born Colombian who will have children someday with my American-born Chinese partner. I often think about the struggle our kid(s) will have to face within this country and our two cultural groups. I subbed as soon as he said his channel was accused of bothe sentiments because I so desperately want to learn the Chinese side of American acceptance and rejection.
"In short, the *hatred* comes first. And a thin veil of rationality comes later." Oh yeah. Jesus, yeah.
I've found just the opposite. For the first 30 years of my life, I didn't see race. But pattern recognition over time showed me that race matters. Meeting 3 Chinese men at 0200 on the street has far different implications than other colors.
This line should be framed and hung in institutioms everywhere
No nationality comes when incompetence and pandering become laws. The hatred comes with a difference of opinion on what racism is ..when everything becomes racist, nothing is racist. When it is applied and not EXPECTED or OVER REACTED to, that is when we have an understanding.
@@DBMac-ji7fr race matters, but its more of a personal thing, I don't care if your black, but I care if your black and care if I'm white.
@sick ular racism breeds racism, trying to stop racism by being racist is a method used in america by african americans and self hating white people
If you hate a villian character so much that means the actor did a great job with his character
I hear that the actor for Twister was a real gentleman so props for playing such a comedically detestable antagonist. RIP
Agreed
well this isn't necessarily true but can be a good indicator of a well portrayed character
U just steal original comment
Not really tho... many villains that are considered good is quite likeable like joker and bane from that batman trilogy.
This is how being neutral feels like: Both sides hate you
Thats how you know it works.
because neutral is the minority.
i would say transitional rather than neutral, because they move from one ecosystem to another and they want both sides to accept, i think neutral would be them starting their own community in their own land not part of either side, then one or both sides judging them.
@@yudilai6704 I think it's more like neutral is the silent majority. While the extremes are the loud minority, because neutral people don't hold extreme and absolute thoughts and have a higher tendency to accuse people of being the opposite end of the spectrum whenever their opinions don't agree with them.
"I'm a Witcher" XD
Sorry people in the world can't get out of the "us versus them" mentality. I hope you stay safe out there man!
that why corona virus exist.
Ah yes, racism: the most powerful martial art. Easy to learn, easy to master...
racism is good
love from india.
it is freedom spech
jai racism
Ha!
I think you mean, Easy to learn, stupid to master.
@@ridking Good response!
from casual racism to professional league racism
14:30 My parents are both immigrants, from Barbados & Greece respectively, and they both still have their accents after living in North America for 50 years. I tell people people all the time, not to worry about an accent.
To me, accents tell a story.
"To me, accents tell a story." -- That's a lovely quote
That's an interesting mix, Greece and Barbados.
The world sure needs more people like you... The three times I've had people say that to me in person I've been like "pff, yeah sure pops" because as stated, I just need three fingers to count those incidents, whereas I honestly lost count of how many assholes gave me shit about my imaginary accent since I was a kid. Even a dude of my own race dissed me as fresh off the boat with an accent that was so cartoony I actually asked him point-blank "hey man, is this a prank or something?". That dude was unable to properly pronounce his very much foreign last name even though he probably was second generation at best.
Personally, I love hearing different accents, even if it makes it a bit difficult for me to understand sometimes. I even have a short list of some of my favorite accents. My number 1 is Scottish (for now at least).
been living in america for 10+ years. came here early back then. I speak fluent in English but still I only get comments on how I still have accent BUT only from chinese. for that, I told them, thats my identity and it was the last bit of my cultural pride that I can have while living in the melting pot of a world.
'even the best of us are not immune to the temptation of hate' - that's very true
@@blackshadow-ps3fx are you saying that it's ok to hate those who are in a better position than you?
i would say this is very pronouns in the HK protest... where the police calls the protestors "cockroach" and the protestors calls the police "black".
and as a jedi master once said , "hate leads to anger" and in this case it leads to ever increased polarity and violence and brutality
This video is ever more appropriate in the wake of recent episodes of anti-asian violence. As an abc, I'm used to being other'd by both Chinese and white people. Thank you for this video and keep fighting the good fight
That feeling is the same for all chinese immigrants all over the world man,I'm SEA born chinese,my family have been here for generations since the sultanate period,but whenever bad stuff happens it's always us who got blamed and attacked,crazy how savage humans can become.
I have a better question. Why the hell are there so many chinese immigrants everywhere?
Could it possibly because china is a shit country and literally everyone wants to get out of there?
@@aegis3141 Even here in New Zealand I bore witness to white people treating Chinese like shit because of how the pandemic had recently broken out. I actually found myself being nicer than usual to the Chinese people in businesses and shops I would visit. Strike up a conversation and ask them how their day is going etc. Maybe I am being ridiculous but I didn't want this place not feeling like home to them, when it is their home.
No one should need to feel that way based on their race.
Jesus loves you
@@Ethan-wr2os its not really their home though, not saying they don't deserve to be treated with the respect any human deserves, but I wouldn't expect the chinese to think of me as one of their own if I lived in china
The true villain in the film is the jealous cheerleader. She doesn't fight any of her own battles, spins lies and plays the victim, uses her parents, and encourages hatred on many levels. And worst of all, she is never punished for any of her misdeeds.
People like that exist even today, but difference is that they are now deadlier than ever with Twitter at their disposal to cancel people that they might not even have met, they can literally harass and abuse people on the other side of the globe rather than only those within physical proximity in the old days.
@Magne M It isn't. It shouldn't be normal. But it is common behaviour it's a real damn shame.
That's literally all the people protesting the virus in the US right now. Lmao
Hirocheeto You should get out more... or not ha
Yeah , shes the embodiment of the white bictch who accused emmet till. she never got punished for her lies
"You can't refuse to be kind to others just because there are unkind people in the world." - I am pretty sure I didn't come up with this, I heard somewhere, but it still counts.
But you can and hell most do just look at the majority of jaded people.
@@Mm-vr9mt Yes but the consequences for that are you are less happy, they are less happy. Everybody is unhappy and what for? It's pointless, a waste of energy
@@Stettafire Exactly as most things are, pointless and a waste of time, energy and resources but it's just a matter of perspective really.
@@Stettafire worse than that it creates a chain effect. You are not kind because others are not kind. Others then see you as not kind and choose to not be kind for the same reason as you. The chain weighs down civilization. It must be broken. We must be kind.
We all deserve a measure of unmerited grace.
As a grown man of mixed ethnic heritage I find this to be the most mature discussion of racism I have ever seen. thank you. Thank you so very much.
Agreed. This was an excellent, well thought, fair, and mature discussion of the sad evil of racism.
"I have ever scene" - is that pun intended?
Franklin Turtleton Nope, it was auto incorrected.
Same here buddy
Of mixed ethnic heritage as well, having experienced racism on both sides. Same thought here, at least on video essay format. Definite emphasis on the "mature" part.
I really cried at the end when Ip Man's son was filming his father training him and then recaps the previous films. Then ends at Ip Man's funeral.
This is a perfect and analytical approach comparing and contrasting Gunny and Twister's perspectives. Twister being a more egocentric character, while Gunny is so racist that he doesn't even think he's racist. I like how you also covered how the other side are just as racist against the oppressors.
gunny sees other cultures as a threat to his way of life and so he tries really hard to preserve the status quo. it's a surprisingly nuanced view of racism underlying the somewhat over-the-top delivery. the second part is even more interesting to me, though, because it also has elements of ideological purity that you see in the very binary, polarizing american political environment
@Aqeel Asif But here is the funny thing about it. Karate was brought from Japan after WWII because the US won. And Lot of racist American kept saying the US is a multicultural country, and they been racist……
@@jiachengwei1307 yeah the fact Marine guy didn't even brought that Karate is from Japan is a bit jarring
@@dimitrescu182 yep~
Just how dude, i came from a spanish smite video. At this point i think your following me.
You have no idea how much I appreciate this channel. I’m not Asian but I am fascinated by your viewpoint. It’s so unique in the RUclips space and I’m excited by every notification I see. Keep up the work man. With the way the world is going, perspectives like yours are going to become so much more valuable.
Hat and Cane Productions we need more ppl like you in this world. Life is too short to be closed minded and contained There’s just too much to see and to do and not enough time to do it all. We’re all in this together.
right!? i can’t tell if i’m, on some level, doing something problematic like exoticizing/othering someone with a foreign accent, but all that aside, this is a smart guy with a fresh perspective -more please!
@cj p No one said that China doesn't have it's own issues with xenophobia. Let's not let this dissolve into whataboutism.
@cj p There is no sense of malice in Colour in eastern countries.If you are black you are black,if you are brown,you are brown.The more money you have the more respect and recognition you get.Thats it.
@ It's ironic that you say the Marines are allowed to ostracize different views and then also call them a "brotherhood". Only the weak never change.
“Equality feels like oppression for the privileged.”
I want equal rights for Europeans in Saudi Arabia then .or Japan . Give me an appartment you racist japanese government
@@AK-hi7mg By that logic, the whole world would be oppressed, because nobody can rent an appartment in North Korea.
Since I am not oppressed myself, I can only speculate, but I would say, you are only truly suppressed if you have no safe heaven to return to. If you have no home.
The chinese cheerleader daughther cannot return to china because that's not where she is from (I assume she was born in the USA, but I didn't watch the movie so maybe I'm wrong in that detail), yet she is not at home in her own country either. I think that is what suppression feels like. Not "I don't have the same privilege anywhere in the world as in my home country".
@Mosaab Saudi Arabia has been known for its homophobia and prejudice against foreigners. In Saudi Arabia, the "Arabians" Don't get oppressed. They're the majority of that country. But let's say a Christian European moves there... The government and the citizens would hate on that person. Also what percentage is microscopic, is the 3 percent of African descendants in Britain and microscopic minority, is the less than 1-2% of Native Americans a microscopic minority that shouldn't be focused on... You say his argument is flawed yet yours is.
@Mosaab the minority needs rights just as much as the majority, not denying anything bad that's going on in Saudi Arabia. To be more exact, a minority like a jewish person will get shit on by both the people and the government. What's happening to the majority of Saudi Arabia is fucked up, the people who's profiting are the ones in power. Also there is nothing stopping me from learning the history, I have learned ancient history of it though, especially the southern part with the Aksum. Also you seem to get real passionate, calm down. There is no need to get pissed off, we could actually have common ground if you calm down and not get irrational. The people of Saudi Arabia are oppressed by their own government. The people literally means all of them, including the minority. The minority and majority are getting fucked, and focusing on both would work better in making Saudi Arabia equal.
Also it's sight, not site. Also I see you're attacking me mostly and not the argument, that's not very productive and has no use in this discussion
@@aknopf8173 In white majority countries you can talk as badly as you want about white people without facing any serious backlash, meanwhile whites risk losing their jobs and being canceled by the mob if they do the same in their own countries.
This is something no one could do in any other countries that are not majorly white.
The dichotomy between the two villains, the General and Wang, was a strike of GENIUS. Amazing writing, it shows how the author deeply understand the issue, especially when you compare with the fact that there are other non-racist people during the film. I don't know how i never thought about that.
I was previously going to condemn people who act this way as dumb but i realized that they are just regular people who are afraid, or their hatred exist to feed a common human desire for violence or superiority; it's like what experts tell you about the habit change, change the routine not the trigger and reward. Showing that you go after a feeling with a certain action not that the action in itself is important (i.e. you can find other ways to relax than eating your nails).
What really confused me was when the gunny mentioned karate as "theirs". And when the girl mentioned america as "their land for generations". Like what?
Americans amirite
It WAS their land for generations, white people have been on the continent for hundreds of year lol...
I mean the gunnery is racist against the Chinese not Japanese isn't he? As shown in clips he talks to the Karate instructor who is Japanese he uses the term 'we', so it seems he is only racist against Chinese not just the blanket of 'Asians' which makes sense, thinking with modern day global politics how the biggest threat to American hegemon is the Peoples republic of China (PCR) it makes sense especially that military personnel with the capability of forming racist beliefs are led that way due to the framing with the PRC vs with how close the American and Japanese governments are linked
@@funworldtonight yeah but europeans and Americans complain and scream as soon as immigrants come in “their land”. So apparently destroying and killing serval non white groups is ok because “that’s how life is” but when people come (POCS) to simply survive without harming others it’s something (some) white people get scared of ? Um what ?
@@ScienceNerd1.1 eh misplasced fear also there easy scapegoats they blame all there problums on the other
By the quote of bruce lee:
"Under the sky we are but one family".
commentatorboy I believe he himself said that those were the words of Confucius. I know the interview you’re referring to though.
Yeah, Bruce himself quoted Confucius, pretty cool
ruclips.net/video/cs-Mx-MFPa4/видео.html
Tell that to CCp
@@jamessarungbam3598 wdym ?
@@itzcheeseburger622 the commie party of the "island that shall not be named because im currently staying here"
"With hindsight, we know Bruce Lee was right all along."
Bruce was cut from Ip Man's school because he was 1/4 German. He knew racism. Lucky he had some friends that kept teaching him after he was kicked out. Funny how this is never mentioned in movies.
@Edge Lord McCringe MK-3000 WTF? Where does this shit come from? :D
@@Rabaikal just look at that dude's name. that will answer your question :)
@@Rabaikal Too much 4:20
@@civilsavage6337 That's a lie. Nothing you said is true. Bruce was never kicked from Ip Man's school, he left for the USA and even kept in touch with his sifu (Ip Man) as well as his instructor (Wong Shun Leung).
Man I can't express how much I love this video of yours, I really wish more people could adress the problem of racism like you isntead of taking sides and ironically making it an "Us Vs Them" problem.
First minute hit hard after Asian elderly were constantly attacked last month, especially in CA and NYC
Edit: and the Atlanta shootings
Ah yes the Blue states filled with Democrats
@@ElliFong Don't make it political, crime is a crime.
@@genericname4708 It's political, blacks be like "The whites are racist, lets do BLM marches lets have politicions help us with BLMs"
What does this have to do with asian hate crime?
@@genericname4708 Just ignore those people. They’ll try to make everything political and blame democrats/liberals and they can’t be reasoned with
The reason I don't like most of these films is that the racism is so over the top. It's too easy to draw lines in hatred. When a film is subtle and crafty with these heavy themes, it means so much more than being spit in the face for 2 hours.
Unfortunately these days the racism is starting to get cartoonishly over the top as well
that's exactly why I do love these films so much. some people, including myself, had the displeasure of experience over-the-top racism, so it really speaks to us. to each their own though.
@@himynameisrobby To me it feels more an indulgence. Its depiction of hate and racism is so comical and childishly portrayed, its hard to relate.
But its a film and to prop up its central theme to casual film goers it takes the route of sticking it in your face.
@@percivalconcord9209 That honestly just endures me to the IpMan films even more when tackling the topic of racism
@@ValGOPLock I didn't think it tackled any issues regarding racism, it just propped up a cartoon boogeyman and adressed nothing other than there are bad people in the world who do bad things to other groups of people. Its an easy message to churn out when its done so crudely with no subtlety.
*"Even the best of us are not immune to the temptation of hate."*
I'm gonna steal that thx😂
Most racism is now against whites from blacks and asaisn. Trump supporting kids are beaten in high school on video, affirmative action gives blacks an advantage in jobs and school, black/asian pride is encouraged but people whites loose their jobs for doing the same.
Yet why are these "profound" and "insightful" videos only ever talking about white racism? They scour rare sources for white racism when there is bountiful black racism.
Anyone who thinks there is an epidemic of white bigots that need fighting or correcting has been duped into seeing an imaginary enemy for political reasons.
@@shaolincheck347 yoo chill it's about IP man not about most of that nonsense your talking
Racism is kind of a mindset, it's not permanent, it's an opinion, that's usually driven by events that took place before as people aren't born that way, if you don't know a lot of black people apart from the ones you see on the news about gangs and stuff then you'll probably be racist because that's your preconception of them as a group. It's sad but in a way for most racists a single connection to a decent person of every race will anchor them, that's why racism is more common in areas without many minorities (and yes places like Africa and Asia with few minorities are rife with it even though we don't discuss it as much)
Also to Shaolin Check, asians? Never dealt with any racism from any asians tbh, though they do keep to themselves many times, have dealt with it from black guys a bit (it's usually men more so than women), especially when trying to date a black girl, it causes a ton of problems and her family will outright refuse to even talk to you or acknowledge you exist, never dated any asian girls so that might be why i never experienced it from them.
Usually there's a line that you cross when you date interracially, it's invisible, no one talks about it but like their whole evolutionary mechanisms trigger to see you as an invader or something and they start seeing you as an enemy, it's kind of amazing and i'm sure that psychology explains it but yeah and you can flip that stuff if you do nice things for them or benefit them in some way, but it does take a lot of time and first impressions are usually horrible
@@liquidsnake6879 Most of the white supremacists I've met grew up in impoverished, and minority-majority neighborhoods. It's this twisted thinking that racism is inherent to one skin color that's so harmful, everyone has the same capacity for evil. Racists create racists, hate creates hate...
Racism is a tribalistic mindset really, seeing people as closest to your appearance being trustworthy. It's more than that, ingrained in inherent(biological) psychology by birth. There's no such thing as a non-racist; stereotyping is the same thing, alienating a group regardless of preconceived notions. That's really how the brain indexes and correlates information, by connections whether they're real or arbitrary.
Here, in Brazil, there are an enourmous politic dispute between "two sides" - the "left" and "right" people. Some of RUclipsrs in Brazil say if you been acused in the same video, to be in the both sides, you doing the right thing. So I think you're going the right way
Why be Left or Right when you can move forward?
@@ItzMisterBlitzer 😱😱😱😱😱🤯🤯🤯
@@ItzMisterBlitzer Because the left has gone full retard. You can not even question them with out being a self hating minority "white supremacist" or a white supremacist. I asked someone why they are defending Elizabeth Warren a woman who lied about being Native American her whole life. Their reply was I am a self hating Hispanic, and went on to curse me out for not being for unity. I will be more than happy to share screen shots with you. At lest the modern right will not beat you or burn down your business for disagreeing with them. Why are the left attacking minorities as they say they want to help us? This is how it is in America anyways.
@@ItzMisterBlitzer because they're just names of two types of government people would commonly align themselves with, that being collectivism and individualism, each of the candidates are at different levels of these ideologies as well as authoritarianism and liberalism, and dividing in two makes it easy to cut half of what you're not looking for in a candidate or political allies, without being too much and possibly making elections damn battle royales
@@juanduenas1943 you guys at least only worry about college, my high school teacher lied about a president candidate actually being found guilty of murder in brazil, consider yourself fucking lucky, the rest of the world has children being taught brainwashing is ok, while in your country they hide they're doing it
Congrats my guy, it's awesome to hear people deconstruct movies and deliver a constructive inspirational message to us all. keep it up 💙
"One cannot learn about the entire universe if one only focuses on their one planet" Miyamo Musashi.
You mean Miyamoto Musashi just checking tho
@@brilianairlangga1408 fun fact: His name is the sister ship of the Yamato-class super battleship.
Interesting, i thought the root of his writing is power from within so i assume his book would focus solely on the inside of our individual mind
@@brilianairlangga1408 Nah his reference are food... Mayonnaise Sushi
"In dark times like this, we all need a bit of Ip Man"
Damn that brought a tear to my eye. Absolutely loved this video and the perspectives you offered, I have come to know a lot of asian cinema and the issues that inspire the making of it through your work.
My most sincere thanks from Mexico.
Yeh. It is terrible how racist the CCP is trying to make Chinese people. Banning foreigners from places. and splitting up mixed families. It is really dark times in the world and in China.
We also have to remember how Chinese companies and the CCP approved actions that are taking place in Africa. Encouraging workers to make "temporary families" with locals, only to abandon them after they get paid and leave Africa. Over fishing and over logging. It is like the most hardcore imperial rape of Africa from over a hundred years ago, coming back with a vengeance . Only the CCP has better propaganda. Claiming they are helping..
@@claudeyaz From where did you get these information?
Funny thing is Scott Adkins in real life is probably one of the nicest martial artist in Hollywood. This was mentioned by Michael j white himself that the character was poles apart.
but im glad Adkins got a part with more acting to show off. such a hard working guy.
You know, actor always portrayal someone they will never did in his life. For example.
Mr. Shih Kien. A actor who portrayal Mr. Han in Bruce Lee movie "Enter the Dragon"
Most of time in his career, he always portrayal villains. Because he was too famous for portrayal villains,
He have a nickname call 'Villain Kien"(in chinese is 奸人堅) In real life however, he was very nice and humble.
BOYKA BOYKA BOYKA
@@TiMonsor Scott Adkins seems so genuinely into the culture of Martial Arts and has love of all proponents. Watching him be like a little kid around previous stars is amazing. He has achieved so much but seems so humble.
8:24 "this has been our land for generations, ever since we brutaly took it from those who lived here before us"
For such a depressing subject, this video had a rather uplifting ending. Thank you, man. Your insights are always worth hearing.
I really like this interpretation of racism because it is true. With myself being from a full Chinese family I can see the parallels from Ip Man 4's racist themes and reality. There are a fair bit of racist ideals still present, especially when it comes with the family elders who were born in our motherland. In my parents generation they HAD to marry other Chinese, it was a cardinal sin to marry someone white, black, indian, hispanic, etc. Even now in my generation, some relatives will give a bit of a dirty look if you're with non-Chinese. There is very much an 'us' and 'them' mentality.
*Whispers to nearby friend* : HIS analysis is superior to OURS.
Edit: Just wanted to add that this was a nice analysis video.
Edit 2: Finished the video and you now earned a subscriber.
I’ve held off on watching Ip Man 4 because as much as I loved the first 3 films, I’ve started to get tired of what started to feel like a fairly formulaic and uninspired trope the Ip Man series, and seemingly lots of other especially more recent Kung fu movies have fallen into, where they rely on racial tension to drive the primary conflict of the story. This would be ok if there was at least some nuance to how this is done but it’s almost never this way. Both sides just become caricatures of themselves and I end up feeling more frustrated than anything because I feel like there is so much more potential in these stories that’s left unexplored. Your analysis has made me reconsider this movie, and giving it a chance. I also really enjoyed hearing your perspective on this topic and look forward to watching much more of your content. Keep going, stay safe, and have an awesome weekend.
Right on target Lehel. I really miss watching a film without being constantly bombarded with politics and ideologies, but unfortunately nowadays good writing takes second place to those. It seems to me that this movie sets out to fight racism, and instead ends up reinforcing racist stereotypes in a very unimaginative way.
can i just "dito" this?
Honestly, don't bother. Ip Man 4 is probably the most stereotyped out of all of them.
all of the movies adhere to some sort of conflict based on race or ideology.
7:44 impressive Doumawashi tho
"this has been our land for generations"
American moment
plus the dudes claimed karate as theirs
Old American moment ig
In most kung fu films, they want to create a hero who's always fighting a bad guy. In the story of Ip Man, he's not fighting physical opponents. He's fighting the ups and downs of his life 😎😎😎
I also liked the first 'Kung Fu Panda.' Achooo!!! 👊👊👊
he's a national hero try to protect,promote national interests. n of course fight for his family interests
@@glorych1168 And stars in Ip Man 2, one of the most racist movies ever.
@@glorych1168 don't think anyone in mainland knows about his life before this series. Remember that he escaped and came to Hong Kong bc he's an officer of Kuomingtang which is the rival of CCP at the time and if he stayed he will probably get hunt down and killed . He is a hero of Hong Kong but the plot in the movie is clearly fake and the movie is unfortunate turned into a Chinese propaganda in Ip man 2.
"This has been our land for generations"
You sure about that?
Edit : didn't expect this amount of attention but atleast u guys r having a discussion, I don't mean to offend anyone though... So just incase some of u got triggered, I'm sorry:)
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Funny how a lot of people do think like that.
Facepalms*
@@dbrzy8989 i mean its plural... so like at least two lol.
@@Chadwinw i guess it's still possible
@FatAnteater the native still Alive
As an asian american, I find your channel heavily influential to me and I just wanna say thank you!
What I love even more about your channel is how you talk in depth about films that I honestly grew up on that many friends in my personal life would have little knowledge of, from J-horror, Shaw Brothers to the Ip man series (Was in elementary school when the first Ip Man film came out). I will be honest and say that I literally almost teared up during your Chinese Animation video but I guess a lot of it came from a realization of how much I love cinema and specifically the idea of identity. I guess watching your videos gave me a realization of how much Asian cinema means to me personally and how it helped shaped who I am today, and for that I just wanna say thank you from the bottom of my heart.
I cannot wait to see what else you have in store!
P.s. Another beautiful video. Have not seen Ip Man 4 yet (really want to) but the messages you displayed in the video honestly hit home to me.
There's probably a timeline where that Marine loved kung fu instead and thinks karate's for dummies instead
"The in-group of us is ever-shrinking." A succinct way of putting it. It's quite common among bigots to start outcasting people who are too friendly with the "them" for their taste.
The same goes in the other direction as well. I find that the way some of my fellow liberals are indulging in a frenzy of purity tests is just as harmful. Intolerance is just another form of hatred.
Lmao it's so obvious you have no idea what you're talking about other than some fantasy of "bigots" from propaganda like this
Most racism is now against whites from blacks and asaisn. Trump supporting kids are beaten in high school on video, affirmative action gives blacks an advantage in jobs and school, black/asian pride is encouraged but people whites loose their jobs for doing the same.
Yet why are these "profound" and "insightful" videos only ever talking about white racism? They scour rare sources for white racism when there is bountiful black racism.
Anyone who thinks there is an epidemic of white bigots that need fighting or correcting has been duped into seeing an imaginary enemy for political reasons.
@@shaolincheck347 This video doesn't only talk about white racism. Maybe you should watch the whole thing until you reach that quote in particular
Some days google has good recommendations, this was one of them.
And instead of Master Law complaining about the table being slippery, it’s Master Law complaint about the stage being small
I personally find this incredibly interesting. I’m not Chinese, but as a person of color, it’s excellent to hear what it’s like for other cultures.
Hope you able to see the actual film, it is pretty nuanced for what was expected to be a basic martial arts beat em up.
Color? What color is that? Purple? Green? Mauve? Magenta?
Could you please be more specific?
Nobody is more racist than chinese i can tell you, i am from hong kong living in switzerland, china is 100% same nazi rhetoric right now, if you understand what is being said and promoted by government now, you will know this video not good for not balance about this and mention that US so less than china
@@youtubesbestchinachannel9073 Nobody 👋 knows ☝️ racism 👌 better than I do.
@@youtubesbestchinachannel9073 Lmfao true, racism in Asian countries is almost unknown to outsiders. Not saying everyone there believes in the same ideology but fuck they're a lot more open about it. But yeah China's pretty munted.
its easy to write a script thats all "Im right, youre wrong." Im glad to see this movie shows that not everything is black and white.
I love your videos, as a Chinese person, I’m in constant fear of political prosecution, I never feel safe expressing my criticism of Chinese media to anyone other than a few close friends, it means lot to me that your videos exists
说的太好了 一针见血 用了15分钟基本把我说不清楚的想法全部说清楚了 很少看到这么客观的视频了 真棒！
What?
@@boomerrepublic6025 translation: “well said, straight to the point. used 15 minutes to clarify all of my unclear thoughts about this movie. rarely see such neutral/objective videos anymore. awesome!”
@@jaredeow23 thanks for the translation, I wish I could read it myself but my Chinese is not too good.
"instead of a cocky student that invites trouble, its.... A cocky student that invites trouble..." oh lol
Always thought that guy from the second movie was supposed to be an allusion to Bruce Lee lol
@@青雷の戦士 me too! I always thought they just changed up the name bc they couldn't find a suitable actor to play Bruce Lee, but according to Wikipedia, there were some issues about film rights, so they based the disciple on another disciple of Ip Man - "Wong Shun Leung (a Chinese martial artist from Hong Kong who studied wing chun kung fu under Ip Man)."
@@青雷の戦士 Ip Man had a lot of cocky students.
@@jyodee_3159Wong Shun Leung also trained Bruce lee. Some even say he got his mannerisms from him.
As a canadian born Chinese... this is so incredibly moving on so many different levels. Thank you for convincing me to see this film.
All of this movies are good
Would this not just make you a Canadian? I have always wondered why people move to another country/born in said country then hyphenate themselves. I think if you are a citizen of whatever country then you are simply a ????? put whichever country in that you are not a ??????-?????? makes no sense to me to seperate yourself from others.
@@billjames8036 @@billjames8036 Good point! If we pretend for a sec that the idea of nations do not exist, would there still be divisions amongst people? Of course! Languages and cultures have existed long, long before the idea of organized nations. Therefore, we can say nationality has less to do with your identity and more to do with the cultures and practices you practice. When you look chinese, speak chinese, eat chinese food and even think like a chinese, observing different chinese practices and having a preference for eastern aesthetics, does that not make you in some way chinese? So in that regard, it can be very hard to feel canadian in a chinese home even though it is head-knowledge that you are. At the same time, in a system run by, say, primarily non-asians who enforce a non-asian mindset, it can also be difficult to see yourself as chinese. See, with each generation an immigrant family stays in a country, they loose more and more of their native culture. Ever consider that all the white people in America now consider themselves separate from europeans, have their own distinct culture, their own distinct accent, etc?
As an second-generation immigrant, identity is defined by not who you are but by what you are not. I have grown up acutely aware that there is unfortunately going to always going to be an "outside group". I know just enough chinese culture for westerners to not consider me a real practitioner of western culture, but not enough for actual easterners to consider me a practitioner of their culture either. Being a second generation immigrant is kind of like knowing your entire lifestyle is that of a fraud, that unless you fully immerse yourself in one thing you are going to be considered a traitor to somebody. Your life feels like a lie, at least it does to me and quite a few people in my area I have spoken to.
It gets even more confusing when you remember that canadians actually don't have a culture. They're a cultural mishmash of french and british traditions. If there really was a true canadian culture, it would be whatever the indigenous get up to, and I can safely say that while our government loves to apologize to them, most of us don't live like native canadians. So really, the idea of canadian culture is a lie fabricated by the government to give us a false sense of nationalistic loyalty - that failed, because canadians are infamously unpatriotic.
I have heard many people tell me, "oh, you can simply become a mix, the best of both worlds..." this to me is the shallowest possible way to look at things and screams apathy. There is no way to mix cultures because doing so IS a fully western idea. Ideas of identity and self are considerably less developed in asia. Individualism and picking your own path in life instead of carrying on the family name is a fully western ideal. Of course, with the introduction of the west into asian culture, there have been great strides to improve this, but my point still holds - choosing your own identity is a western idea and I feel like if I do so I would become a walking cultural appropriation.
So yeah, I can't call myself a real Canadian or a real Chinese. Doing either would make my entire existence a racist offence to both groups of people.
@@shonenbag6478 True enough, very good points.
Lol u are not Canadian
This video is brilliant in every way, please continue to make them @AccentedCinema.
You often bring a different viewpoint or thought process to each of your videos than I when watching the same movies.
I look forward to each video.
14:17 you're doing the right thing. I'm white and I deeply appreciated your analysis if this film. I just subscribed. Let's have each other's backs in this world.
Man, I miss Bruce Lee so much, even though I wasnt even alive when he died.
Some people on this planet are way ahead of their time and single-handedly changed the world, too subtle for us to see, that it is only visible in retrospect.
I researched aspects of racism through my studies and realized that every human can be "racist". However although we call it racism, the underlying concept is way more complex than the concept of inferior races. Todays racism is just an "episode", a "type" of this behaviour, based in the emergance of Nationalism and Social-Darwinism.
I wouldnt go as far as to say that "racism" is in our DNA, but its surely in our shared-cultural-conciousness.
Humans tend to divide other humans in groups based on random differences, which ends in violent hostility, mostly with one being an aggressor. Differences dont have to be obivous. They can be very very subtle, like an accent or birthplace, or very obvious, like skintone, language or religion.
We dont know why this behaviour is so strong 100%, but it has most likely something to do with our evolutionary development from ancestors from hunter & gatherers to first civilizations.
There must have been a significant benefit from this kind of behaviour.
Nationalism and other Ideologies of superiority (etc.) promote "racism" strongly, which is why the most gruesome genocides of all time are products of the last few centuries, even though the mean intelligence of humans increased significantly.
oh boy
Basically it is an instinct of ours to mark our 'teritory' and kick anyone that disturb it. I believe this is started from hunting/gathering ground that are limited as the more abundance ground are already taken by strong predator leaving human colony and other beast compete with each other. If there are two human colony, you can imagine that they would need to compete with each other since there are a limit to how many resource that can be gathered both in total and in a single day. The total would mean there's a time limit where a colony can stay without having to go on another dangerous march, while the daily limit the size of the population. As you can see having two colony is just not advantageous to each other. Just for an explanation: Sure more men mean a bigger and more consistent haul but that also mean more mouth to feed. If a lot are hunted, the beast would consider the place dangerous and thus move further away which mean a lot more danger. That also apply to gathering as they have to search for any edible thing they can pick up which mean more people would increase haul and bigger area you can search at one but is it worth it to increase the amount of food they need to feed for being able to gather/hunt more hence a limit.
It's the same with labelling, a leader would need to kick those who doesn't benefit his colony especially if they're just dragging other down and reducing the amount of thing they obtain. This can be done by chalanging the leader decision, being a lazy ass, being incompetent, etc.
Hence why the feeling that every ground they obtain is a ground we lost (as it is quite a literal meaning back in the day) and how it's a concept that's arbitrary over what's considered US and what's considered THEM as colony back then doesn't really follow a nationality or something but rather is just a bunch of people united under someone leadership in order to survive. Come kingdom and it didn't change, then come nation and rather than leadership it is toward an identity (as that's what being part of a nation consist of, things like flag, language, skin colour, etc used to identify ourself).
Doesn't help that the great leaders of Europe, in their attempts to not be called racist, are being taken advantaged of leading to conditions that would promote more racism.
Like the Child grooming gang scandal that was even undermined by law enforcement because they didn't want to be called racist.
Racism is certainly in our DNA. It's just a basic survival technique. Protect my tribe, kill the other tribe. Other tribe must be bad. Me hate other tribe. It's much easier to massacre the men, rape the women, drown the babies and steal all of their shit if we don't empathise with them and that is fundamentally what racism does - it allows us to dehumanize other people so we can justify our cruelty to them without compromising our sense of self.
"I'm a good person, I want to do a bad thing to that person. Conclusion: they must be bad and deserve it"
@@arandombard1197 That's not racism though, it's tribalism, of which racism is just one of the many different varieties. Democrats vs Republicans, Left vs Right, White vs Black, Rich vs Poor, Jacob vs Edward. It's human instinct to define something as us and isolate something else as 'other'. We have progressed so far from our cavemen days but a little piece of the cavemen always stuck with us and is the source of so much strife.
Literally non of this is true racism comes from class relations like how America participated in the trans atlantic slave trade and people started looking for reasons to justify the treatment of black people
"They believe ground gained by _them_ means ground lost by _us."_
THIS. Human rights are *not a zero sum game.* Heterosexual marriage is not harmed by legalizing homosexual marriage. Granting rights to one group does not take them away from another group.
Excellent video, really appreciate your thoughtful perspective. And your humor ;)
Sub-a-lub-dubbed (my humor is terrible too)
So I wonder why China doesn't let the Mongolians, Tibetans, and Uyghurs coexist as citizens within their han-chinese country led by winnie the pupu.
@@taiyoctopus2958 cause they are racists..
Why do we need to be?
@@taiyoctopus2958 who said they cant? Isn't it the West that is constantly talking about separating them from China?
@@tryhardcsnoob9764 The Uyghurs currently living in camps put there by the Chinese government. Stop using 'the West' as a scapegoat for everything. China is way more openly racist.
@@juliab9596 lmao, even after all the debunks and "evidence" proven to be fake already, people still believe that shit.
i didn't even knew what it was when i clicked this video. It is just so positive and genuine. many people can't just live and let live. But the thing is "When you help others you help yourself."
I don't know how you did it but I was crying by the end of this video. Your analysis was spot on and the writing of this essay cut to the point quickly and accessibly.
So glad this came up in my recommendations - you've easily earned a new subscriber. Keep up the awesome work!
"Even the way he sits is ridiculous" :D
...My mom sits that way when I invite her over for coffee.
Twister: I am better than you
Gunny: *We* are better than you
*USSR ANTHEM PLAYS*
Every time the word OUR is highlighted, it is colored in RED
*USSR ANTHEM INTENSIFIES*
I don't get the joke at all, but
USSR: We are more tolerant than you.
Oh, I get it. Collectivism.
@@MsGreenlamp Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad.
@@themajesticspider-man6116 Collectivism, yes. USSR ... not really.
Loved this essay so much. I would never have given Ip Man 4 another chance if it wasn’t for this careful and respectful look at its merits. Well done!!
I appreciate your discussion on the us/them line in the movie and on Master Wan’s reactionary racism, but I don’t wholly agree that this is a good portrayal of racism. To me, it feels very much like a portrayal of an Chinese-American experience by Chinese. It feels very different from other Chinese diasporic media I know about (saving face, the family law, the farewell, etc.) in its treatment of racism and racist violence. Ip Man 4 is almost gratuitous in its depiction of racialised violence and to me it feels like it’s not for an chinese-american audience, but a reminder for the chinese audience of racism overseas. It doesn’t feel like an authentic depiction of Chinese diaspora to me. Like, even the choice of Wan’s daughter speaking both English AND Chinese perfectly, which is not the experience of so many chinese diaspora I know. This is especially reinforced by the ending for me, a reminder that ‘the grass isn’t always greener on the other side’ with an affirmation of Ip Man’s choice to not immigrate. It also portrayed the Chinese Americans basically as Chinese, negating their unique identity as both. In this sense, this movie fell short for me in being authentic, and therefore I didn’t like it. I understand your POV of it being a nuanced discussion of racism (I agree now that it’s a step up from the caricature of a racist in Ip Man 2), but ultimately I feel that its depictions of racism were not transformative or artful in any way, but that those depictions were meant as blunt trauma (and that it was a Chinese take on an overseas Chinese issue). Idk, maybe this sub-genre of tackling racism close to home is not meant for me but, yea.
There is no doubt the film lacks accuracy on many front. Every character in this film is an idealized and sculpted version of an archetype to serve the message of the film. Master Wan will have all the good qualities except his racism, to further push the message of "good man can still be hateful". Even for a Chinese audience, or a Hong Kong local audience for that matter, it is not relatable, and simply a "basic level" overview.
As for the grass is greener quote, I'd give the film the benefit of the doubt, and interpret it more as a form of self-reflection on Ip Man's relationship with his son. He is so obsessed with getting his son to the U.S., he dismissed the path of letting his son stay home and become a Wing Chun teacher. At least, that's how I see it.
@@AccentedCinema hmm, okay. You are right that it is largely generalised, and I guess maybe I had too high hopes for Ip Man 4 to discuss everything with perfect nuance 😅. Thanks for the new view on the ending! I think that's a really great reading and it def works.
I'm the same. The racism in this movie was too hammy for me, in reality it's never this obvious, racists find other reasons to deny you things or treat you different, sometimes it's as petty as "well you didn't smile". I think the movie tried to make Master Wan seem wrong, but Ip Man himself never experienced the racism they did throughout the film. I wouldn't say Master Wan's daughter spoke either perfectly, it seems like a mix, which is more realistic for diaspora Asians if they even know their language of heritage, sadly a lot don't, or they even choose not to speak it because they hate it for w/e reason often times I hear "it sounds ugly". The movie also didn't deal with self-hate in the Asian community which is a very real thing, especially for those who try to fit in and think if they abandon any hint of Asianness and even by insulting other Asians, they can be accepted, and how some parents actually force their children to do this, sometimes not even attempting to speak to them in their original language or teach them culture and customs.
Overall I feel like there's a lot more that could've been added and opportunities to do so like the issue of self hate. Maybe it kinda was done, with the Colin who is half-Asian skilled in a Asian martial art, but sees other Asians as an enemy and does what his racist superior wants without question. He feels like he's become one of them and accepted, even though he's just a lackey.
@@Drownedinblood Is it wrong for you if some diaspora asians,cant speak their "language of heritage"? Do they have to? Who required them to do so? People like you that make diaspora asians feel sorry for themself , if they cant speak their "language of heritage". I think diaspora asians just want to be accepted as they are, without having to be like " heritage ambassador".
@@andreasurban5030 I didn't say it was wrong. I said it was sad, which it is. Did you not read further? There are Asians who actively hate their language of heritage, and wish to not learn it or speak it because they find it embarrassing and ugly. It's not just a case of "oh, I just never picked it up", it's actively trying to erase that part of themselves. How many times I've heard Asians say "I don't even speak x language" thinking it's a good thing, nobody else does this. This is a sign of self hate. I've never heard a person of Hispanic heritage proudly proclaim they can't speak Spanish. Granted if an Asian person wasn't raised in a Asian household, because of adoption or something, you can't really say anything, but if you are, and in that same household, parents speak to them in their language and they reply in English...that's kinda odd isn't it?
Knowing their language of heritage is a powerful tool to learn more about themselves and their family and people's history and just have a different perspective in life from more direct sources, it's an opportunity that shouldn't be thrown away just to make yourself more vanilla to assimilate. It's also more opportunities in life, just because your pool of people you can interact with is bigger and these people are more likely to accept you if you can speak the same language as them as you share the same face anyway.
You don't have to be a heritage ambassador, you're still assuming you should learn for the sake of others. No, it's for your own sake. Just see it as self improvement.
please, don't stop making your film essays. they're beautiful and genuinely enjoyable. Im always excited to see when you make a new one
In Mexico and mesoamerica really, we have something similar to the “Han Jian”. The term is called “Malintzi” or “Malinche”, named after a native american woman that helped Hernan Cortez translate for him, she would eventually marry him.
Wasn't Malinche sold into slavery by her parents under the rules of the civilization in which she lived?
I'm not saying what she did was right, far from it, but you can kind of understand her mindset there.
@@TechnoLawyer
Yeah from a reality perspective she was a really brave woman, made what she could to survive and managed to raise her child as well, she was also smart, learned two languages before she learned Spanish, her son is believed to be one of the first mestizos ever in america. In popular culture however she is seen more like a traitor to her people, even though her people were being slaves by the meshica.
“Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there-on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot.
Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
― Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space
Every time I'm going through something that makes me rile against my own life, seek my end, and bask in sadness, I look to the image of the Pale Blue Dot. My problems are not akin to the suffering of the world. I am but a microscopic speck in our tiny dot, thus I must not dwell on my sadness, my pain, and my anger. Instead, I must go out and help every other microscopic speck on this tiny dot that suffers the same way as I do. We are all one, we all belong to this pale blue dot, and we must maintain this with true humility, sincerity, and love.
This video popped up in my recommendations and I watched about a minute of it before realizing...I should probably watch the movie first, lol. Paused the video to do just that, then watched the rest of your video. Very well-spoken. Your breakdown of the Gunnery Sgt vs Twister was spot on. I'm definitely gonna have to look through the rest of your videos now. Keep up the good work.
did the exact thing just barely
Accented Cinema, you are one of my favorite RUclipsrs. You are always able to point out things I would have otherwise never noticed in films. Your reviews are so unique. You always find a way to include the film's cultural relevance, influence, and moral of the story. I respect your dedication to Asian films and culture. I love that you do not only focus on box office hits which would probably be easier for you to gain more views. Every time I watch your videos, I can hear the words RESPECT. You have so much passion and respect for each movie, actor, and genre. Please continue doing what you are doing! As always, this was an amazing video.
Just also goes to show Scott Adkins is a terrific actor along with being a prolific martial artist. Totally under utilized by Hollywood but I'm glad he gets roles and chances like these to display his range. On top of that he is British and he nailed that American accent of that time period and region pretty well imho.
A lot of what you say does resonate with me - Being Indian and closely linked with own culture no matter which country I go to. This was a very nice study and I felt you accentuated your points very concisely. Cheers to you mate. Bruce Lee is a hero to us all. We all had his poster up - One of greats who transcended language, country race and culture. Jackie Chan is a close second. :)
I honestly felt like this movie did a bad job on racism or conclusion.
It starts off really well with the Chinese martial artists hating on Bruce Lee for teaching Americans while showing American students bullying the Chinese girl. (Showing both sides of the spectrum). Then the second half of the movie suddenly changes tones in the weirdest way where it felt like it was saying Chinese Martial Arts is superior, ending with the note that military now train people the superior Kung Fu because of Ip Man...
Even as an Asian, I felt like it didn't hit the mark it wanted to. Just personal opinion.
I still liked the movie but I have to agree
Because it was made by those who think they are right
It should have ended with both american and chinese learning jiu-jitsu, because we all know which martial art is the superior one.
@@robertkelly9647 Yeah, no one martial art is superior. I find it very poetic that you *will* need to mix different martial arts, probably from different cultures, to be a prepared oponent.
@@xnkatta Should've been the Marine Corps Martial Art Program (MCMAP). Basically "MMA" but also include how to stab the other guy with a bayonet.
You quickly won my heart as one of my favorite content creators with the quality of your scripts alone
12:46 is my favourite part of this video essay. I re-watched this portion several times, it really gives a message of hope.
I took a Mandarin class my freshman year of high school, just by learning some of the language and listening to my teachers stories of back when she was a teenager in China gave me a new perspective and it was really cool and eye opening to the way that Hispanics treat Asians and especially Chinese. At a parent teacher conference while we were waiting to see my teacher a group of 3 or 4 parents were just sitting out in front of her classroom making fun of her accent and decorations around the classroom. Pretty ridiculous stuff.
Watching the Ip Man series really made me reexamine a lot of personal biases. I think there's plenty of bad in the world and we can strive to be better, but it's a life long process. But alongside that, there's a whole lot of good to be found as well. I genuinely think the vast majority of people are decent and most people just want to go to work, do their business, come home, eat, sleep, repeat, then relax on the weekend. But sometimes I'm reminded of how messy the world is, and videos like this put a lot of things in perspective.
I like to think I try my best every day to be a good person. I don't think I'm racist, sexist, or any other type of irrational hater of outsiders, but at the same time it's hard to ignore some issues that happen all over the world and it makes me wonder if I'm like that too.
I usually am disdainful of the Chinese government for a lot of its recent practices, but I also recognize that people over there are just people too. Nobody's government is fully representative of their people. Whenever I see people saying some dumb shit like "freaking Chinese" or "damn commies" or whatever, it makes me wonder how I would feel if people from other countries accused me of things that my government did. Hell, it happens now, and we see this Us vs Them mentality show it's fangs even though we're as culturally aware and open as we are in the modern day.
I love this video, it encapsulates how a lot of people feel about a lot of things nowadays and it shifted the perspective I had when watching Ip Man 4 the first time. The thought of people raiding your channel for arbitrary BS reasons of race or ethnicity baffles me when you put out quality content like this.
so true man
i personally don't think i'm discriminatory or prejudiced, but even still there are certain conceptions i have of certain people
and because i'm so self-conscious and self-aware, it makes me wonder just how fucked what i think sometimes is
i think even just learning a new culture (for me it's learning the chinese language, although i'm filo lol) is so insightful because you definitely get to learn and be more introspective
haven't watched the Ip Man movies yet but may get it a try one day
Ip Man 5, penguins of madagascar: how to end racism
too bad we won't get a ip man 5 :(
IP man 6 revived and forced to live in apartheid South Africa.
How do you know there won’t be part 5 to ip man
We live in a world where $$ overrules common sense so if there’s $$ to be made then ip man 5 will find a way to get made some day
@@demonreturns4336 its says Ip man 4 The finale.
Scott Adkins is brilliant in whichever role he plays.
Yea, what's funny is that I didn't notice it was Scott Adkins until he started fighting. Only knew him as Boyka so without the accent and the mustache, I didn't notice at all. I found it amazing that while his selling point as an actor is fighting, he can act really damn well.
I'd love to see how he would play batman
@@battlecruiser6353 every time I see Scott Adkins in a movie, I say " that is Yuri fooken Boyka"
Funnily enough, the covid stuff caused our chinese restaurants to thrive. We never got the china hate here, just a craving for general tso
well your lucky, so am I, not many Asian haters in western Washington. also I've heard that some people attacked and killed a child just because they were asian. don't take my word for it though
@@aceric1646 honestly I think america is one weird country
didn't some lady cough on a baby because they were wearing masks?
or the time somebody coughed on a bunch of food at a grocery store?
@@sidekic1109 because nothing is really definable by "Americans"
"mexicans" like my parents are latino, brown, speak Spanish, etc
Same applies with German, Russian, Greek, and literally every country and nationality in the world
But American? Americans aren't just white. Theyre also black and brown and all sorts of colors and cultures
How can you have order in a land with so much chaos?
I think there's a lot of extremes in my country but thats a risk you have to take when you accept everyone and anyone and give them awesome freedoms
@@sidekic1109 You got the reverse of that too where a man started spitting on a girl in an isolated mountain hiking path because she wasn't wearing a mask lol
@@Kevin-yp7yk Umm Germans and Russians don't have universal ethnicity. Europe is generally more diverse than America.
Very happy to find you. I am from China, Shenzhen and Ireland. Movies/TV are stories, but also express history and culture. You are not pro or con, you are , and we should all be be a bit Ip Man or anyone that care of people first.
All your ideas, quirks, and jokes is the reason I subbed. You're doing just fine.
We'll need to have a conversation about China's extreme racism on Africans
You’ve really opened my eyes to the world of East Asian movies and the deep meanings behind a lot of, as well as some of the awkward bad films in their line up! You do an amazing with your commentaries and analyses!
As a white American who has loved Asian cinema since the 70’s, your analysis of asian film is thought provoking and entertaining. Keep up the good work,
I don't really like to talk and think about racism because sometimes your mind plays with you, sometimes after thinking about racism your mind will start showing a projection of hatred and make you the same racist you began to hate. I believe racism never exists, there is only hate, selfishness, and jealousy.
I find your essays entertaining, educational, and unique with their focus on Asian cinema. The essays themselves are usually well balanced and full of nuance.
I hope you understand that critical analysis, such as yours, take will power and good attention from viewers to understand your points and thesis.
Some people are incapable of seeing an analysis as an *analysis*, and simply see it as a propaganda for China or vice versa. Critical thinking is a muscle and not everyone is willing to flex that muscle.
Your channel is awesome and your voice is appreciated in a landscape (of video analysis) that needs more diverse voices from around the world and from various walks of life. Keep up the good work, keep speaking your voice.
And you're right: it's very tempting to give in to hate, but it certainly requires long-term commitment to sustain it; so we must look for inspiration in stories, or non-fiction, to find hope that we can be better than the worst feelings the world grinds into us.
Another wonderful analysis. Part of me felt that Ip Man 4 went into straight up caricature with some of its characters like Ip Man 2. The Gunney seemed to go into this. However, this video showed me the subtleties of the racist characters. Never thought that Master Wan could be considered as racist. I recognized the nuance of the side characters who aren’t racist, but didn’t know how powerful their roles were as well. In any case, Ip Man 4 is my favorite of the series, and you did the film well. Always look forward to your videos! Hope all is well!
Bruh, Master Wan is obviously racist.
I can tell from first viewing.
@@L16htW4rr10r I'm honestly baffled that people are proclaiming that they never picked up on it or considered it. There was practically no subtlety at all in the script for this film.
@@tankolad Just out of curiosity. Would you prefer if the movie has more subtlety? Or is it fine as it is?
L16htW4rr10r Apologies. Yeah Master Wan frustrated me because of his ignorance and his misunderstandings. I sympathized because of the way he was treated, so I guess didn’t see the racist aspect of it. Of course, don’t know if he became less racist at the end of the film. Wish he and Gunnery had some change of heart.
@@BaiLong45 Fair enough. Yeah, I also sympathize with him, but I also see the error of his ways. I guess his views becomes like that because he had met (sorry if grammar wrong) too many white people that try to ruin his community in USA. His problem is generalizing people just like a racist. But I can see why it happen.
Fantastic essay on how the dynamic of racism can be so subtle and damaging simultaneously. As a citizen of the United States, I feel that it is very important that we do not forget that the fight against racism is not over, there is still much to be done.
"Racism is not dead, but maintained on life support by politicians and demagogues" - Thomas Sowell (pretty sure)
Gunnery Sergent: My karate will beat this man.
Japanese General: I think you should sit this one out.
Gunnery: NANI?
😂😂
This popped up in my recommended and now I've got a new favorite movie franchise. Great video man.
What I learned today : I should watch the Ip Man series, and beware of translators.
You're an inspiration to other Asian creatives everywhere. Keep it up man.
We need more people in the world that speaks about Cinema and yes even politics in a more Healthier fashion because the world is filled with so much hate that we need more people to make a more positive change a change that isn't Aggressive nor Racist.
This man is a poet, almost anything he says can be quoted.
Man your accent is the best part imho. I am rather afraid of whether you'll eventually loose your accent.
It didn’t hit me just how much this video was needed until I watched it. I enjoyed Ip Man 4, and appreciated its themes in the first place, but could feel some people were uncomfortable with the topic of racism as it was presented in the film. So for me, it felt like maybe it was just something I could relate to and understand while certain others could not. However, after hearing how well and beautifully you articulated and expressed your thoughts, I feel like I have a way to better express to others how deeply important the themes really are.
Also, Ip Man 4 definitely felt like Ip Man 2 in some ways, but I didn’t realize the mentioned similarities and even the differences of those similarities in such detail until you pointed them out.
Your presentation truly made me appreciate Ip Man 4 even more than I already had due to the insights you highlighted. Your closing thoughts were also very touching, and I felt that sentiment very much! Deep, and sincere thank you for writing and creating this well done video essay! 👍🏼
Jason Rainwater - you may be right about folks being uncomfortable with the views presented in the film. That's likely why it had such a limited release in American theaters.
Agreed. Didn't realize that it shared similarities with the 2nd film as it's been awhile since I last watched it.