@@southlondonlad9144 of course I get it. People should just say their prejudices with their chest and not beat around the bush. Say there is more black people now and you don't like it. Don't be scared
@@TheCLI1988 Yes it's true but whenever white people say anything like that we get a hard time for it. Yes it's true, the population of white people in a lot of places has rapidly gone down and I don't think it's good. Thankfully there are some places that haven't gone that way. To be honest, on the whole white and black people just don't mix, because our cultures are totally different.
It’s great to see the RM buses in action, I was a bus driver for 3 years from early 85-88. My first garage was Merton, then Streatham & Brixton 49, 155, 77, then 159 & 137. Some of the routes are now cut in half or don’t exist anymore. I love the old Croydon high street with Alders, C&A & Grants and would travel to Croydon on the 64 from Mitcham. I still visit Croydon to shop, but it’s skeleton of its form self. I often visit Brooklands Museum, which has a wonderful Bus Museum and well worth a visit. I am still driving around London & the Southeast in a different but interesting Job. Thank you for posting this great video 😊
I somehow find it awfully upsetting how much Croydon has changed and unfortunately its not for the better. I used to love telling people that I'm from Croydon now its something I don't go shouting about.
@@s.wright6945After serving in the military I worked there in various departments when they were short staffed. Later in 1979 was offered a job as trainee manager for a department. The wage was way too low. Also turned down Harrods after two interviews, my parents were furious! The BBC turned me down for a job stating I was over qualified for the job. Later that year I left the UK never to return. I did however like Croydon, lived there from 1961 until 1979. Now approaching my 70th living on a tropical island in the Caribbean. Once I left the UK, money was never an issue, no regrets.
Same age I was then, can’t believe that was 36 years ago now only seems like yesterday. Croydon has changed out of all recognition have to admit I preferred it the way it used to be.
Ha ha typical croydon buses back in the day.... you wait an hour for a bus then at 3.17 three come at once 🤣 Great to see this reminds me of being a kid can almost smell the deisel fumes! Thanks 👍
Wow this was awesome. I remember when you could drive thru. Honestly, I think it's a real shame it looks like it does in 2019. We ain't getting Westfield now and it's a shithole. Thank you Croydon council for spoiling my Croydon
This was when Croydon was great the best it ever was. Used to catch the 68 to school in Upper norwood in 1986. Moved out of croydon late 90s as became a cess pit of people moving in which just had no respect for the place
skaterbun couldnt agree more i lived in tulse hill an my dad had a shop.in tamworth rd. it was a treat to go croydon shops etc. bought a house in t heath 96 n watched it nose dive. moved out as did most on my road
@Oddjob6120 we had some great sports facilities but so did you at Sylvan. Played 5 a side with the Boys Brigade there. I had a lot of mates from primary school who went to Sylvan.
I live in Purley And will not set foot in Croydon now as it has become a crime ridden Hell hole with Nasty looking Tower blocks towering over you. It is unrecognizable from that era apart from the roads like Katherine street where Croydon library is.
I went to school in Croydon from 1960. The death of this lovely area started in the 1970's. By 1986, the South Norwood and Croydon I knew were already unrecognisable.
Went to school in Croydon, shopping every Saturday with my mother the Whitgift , Allders, Grants , Debenhams everything was there it was magical especially at Christmas. But that was yesteryear toady it's practically a run down travesty of it's former self. Absolutely breaks my heart.
There was some thing very nostalgic about it. It was a proper British department store. Before it shut down i sometimes would wonder around the store and get lost in nostalger.
just wonderful…yep brings back many happy memories sours of how croydon was..yess those bus stops outside alllders always had masses of people waiting and that main road i remember too!! guys croydon now..OMGD..it really is awful!! looking at this video also makes me think that at that exact time, fred and the boys were out there on their European magic tour…awwww wonderful days 🥰🥰🥰
This was 1986 and the beginnings of pedestrianisation were there. If you look at the sections where the camera is pointing down the High St towards the junction with Katharine St (where NatWest is) you will see the signs marking the end of pedestrianisation. It was buses only down North End to begin with on weekdays IIRC, so it wasn't total from the beginning. It was a few years later that the drivers decided of their own accord to use Wellesley Road instead of North End and the change became permanent.
thanks for video used to go up Croydon back in the 80's+90's........do you have any more from the 80's like Bexleyheath in Kent.....also like how you got 3 well known musical posters on the buses, Phantom of the opera,Time,Les Miserables classic 80's
Croydon is one of my favourite places. I don't give a shit who says what, I'm glad it hasn't changed too much. A Westfield might not have been a good idea.
When the trolleys finished in 1962 my interest waned because I wasn't that impressed with RMs. 25 years on I found myself filming them before THEY disappered from the streets not thinking about the poor old DMS!!
London has changed so much since 1986 and this video recording was made around CITY OF LONDON and the surroundings and is close to Liverpool Street Train station
Surely there must be more footage out there of DMS B20s zooming around!!! I know they were unliked, but if they were maintained properly, they would have be fine!! They did okay in China ETC! I want one or loads.. as well as the bus I have now! (DMS550)- Nice vid BTW!
No phones in people's hands and no spy cameras everywhere to fine you for driving or putting a cigarette out.ahh I miss thoughs days when life was simple.u
Bollocks; I grew up in Croydon and go back there quite a lot and there are still plenty of white people there. There were plenty of Asian and Black people when I was growing up too. I went to St Mary's on Sydenham Road and there were kids of all colours.
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So many memories! Back when Croydon was full of exciting potential. Such a shame to see it fall into the toilet. 💔
👀👀👀not really 😂west Croydon was a pooo hole then
@@josmith6684 - exactly! I lived in West Croydon. It was always the dump of Croydon....
Most agree. Croydon is not the place it was. I moved out in 1996 never been back. I was 16 when this was filmed. Good days!!
So sad to see Croydon now... This is what it should look like.
Before Croydon turned into Brixton...glorious days indeed. But also very sad.
by what means has it turned into Brixton?? Two completely different places!
@@TheCLI1988 I don't think you get it.
@@southlondonlad9144 of course I get it. People should just say their prejudices with their chest and not beat around the bush. Say there is more black people now and you don't like it. Don't be scared
@@TheCLI1988 Yes it's true but whenever white people say anything like that we get a hard time for it. Yes it's true, the population of white people in a lot of places has rapidly gone down and I don't think it's good. Thankfully there are some places that haven't gone that way. To be honest, on the whole white and black people just don't mix, because our cultures are totally different.
Accept what he says, stop telling people what and how to speak
It’s great to see the RM buses in action, I was a bus driver for 3 years from early 85-88. My first garage was Merton, then Streatham & Brixton 49, 155, 77, then 159 & 137. Some of the routes are now cut in half or don’t exist anymore. I love the old Croydon high street with Alders, C&A & Grants and would travel to Croydon on the 64 from Mitcham. I still visit Croydon to shop, but it’s skeleton of its form self. I often visit Brooklands Museum, which has a wonderful Bus Museum and well worth a visit. I am still driving around London & the Southeast in a different but interesting Job. Thank you for posting this great video 😊
I somehow find it awfully upsetting how much Croydon has changed and unfortunately its not for the better. I used to love telling people that I'm from Croydon now its something I don't go shouting about.
That's just how I remember Croydon. My parents moved away, and I haven't been back since 1987.
You aren't missing much. It would only disappoint you now.
Allders. Those were the days!
My first job was in Allders.
@@s.wright6945 I used to work on producing all of their sale leaflets that were stuffed in the local papers.
@@s.wright6945After serving in the military I worked there in various departments when they were short staffed. Later in 1979 was offered a job as trainee manager for a department.
The wage was way too low. Also turned down Harrods after two interviews, my parents were furious! The BBC turned me down for a job stating I was over qualified for the job. Later that year I left the UK never to return. I did however like Croydon, lived there from 1961 until 1979.
Now approaching my 70th living on a tropical island in the Caribbean. Once I left the UK, money was never an issue, no regrets.
when Croydon was still thriving
Wow I was just 12 then and remember just jumping on the 68 opposite alders, nearly everything has changed nowadays thanks for preserving history
Same age I was then, can’t believe that was 36 years ago now only seems like yesterday. Croydon has changed out of all recognition have to admit I preferred it the way it used to be.
Nice footage of a pre-padestrianised Croydon. Thank you for uploading!
Ha ha typical croydon buses back in the day.... you wait an hour for a bus then at 3.17 three come at once 🤣
Great to see this reminds me of being a kid can almost smell the deisel fumes!
Thanks 👍
Lovely video, Croydon was a great place back then!
Fun fact: 0:16 west Croydon, BT building which was used as Gotham general hospital in dark Knight rises ✌️
Cool
Wow this was awesome. I remember when you could drive thru. Honestly, I think it's a real shame it looks like it does in 2019. We ain't getting Westfield now and it's a shithole. Thank you Croydon council for spoiling my Croydon
How come there won't be a Westfield in Croydon anymore?
@@Lady_Tee15 The council overspent by £65 million last year.
That's what happends when you have a Labour controlled council. They destroy it.
This was when Croydon was great the best it ever was. Used to catch the 68 to school in Upper norwood in 1986. Moved out of croydon late 90s as became a cess pit of people moving in which just had no respect for the place
skaterbun couldnt agree more i lived in tulse hill an my dad had a shop.in tamworth rd. it was a treat to go croydon shops etc. bought a house in t heath 96 n watched it nose dive. moved out as did most on my road
Did you go to St. Joseph's College?
@Oddjob6120 we had some great sports facilities but so did you at Sylvan. Played 5 a side with the Boys Brigade there. I had a lot of mates from primary school who went to Sylvan.
I live in Purley And will not set foot in Croydon now as it has become a crime ridden Hell hole with Nasty looking Tower blocks towering over you. It is unrecognizable from that era apart from the roads like Katherine street where Croydon library is.
I went to school in Croydon from 1960. The death of this lovely area started in the 1970's. By 1986, the South Norwood and Croydon I knew were already unrecognisable.
Awesome these memories of the local buses! 😎👍🏻❤️
I used to work on RML's when they were on the 409/411 routes. Watching this brought back a whole lot of
memories. Thank's for sharing them.
No poxy phones, I miss that world!
Went to school in Croydon, shopping every Saturday with my mother the Whitgift , Allders, Grants , Debenhams everything was there it was magical especially at Christmas. But that was yesteryear toady it's practically a run down travesty of it's former self. Absolutely breaks my heart.
I remember C&A, virgin mega store, beatties, forbidden planet. Good Times.
I used to catch the 68 (to South Norwood Hill) or 157 (High Street South Norwood) when I went to school in Croydon in 1962.
The good old days ❤️
Yay I used to get on the 68 bus I used to live in Seth Croydon till 4 years ago sometimes I miss it
south**
I was born in 1985 we used to live in chapman road when we was all together it’s changed a lot 🥺
Great memories, I was 15 at the time
WHEN CROYDON WAS A SHOPPING DESTINATION ...... THE OXFORD STREET OF SURREY ..........NOW ~~~~~~~###########
The UK really started to develop from 1975 onwards. Food variety also increased from then.
"Started to REGRESS from 1975" you mean
Wow it's amazing how much croydon has changed, especially since I moved away in 2000
when croydon was a nice place
Now its a shite hole........
All the original people (who could afford to) left
@@delboytrotter8806 bloody is a SHIT HOLE
Hows leroy tony
more 70s mate
I miss Allders😥
...And Grants, too 😔
There was some thing very nostalgic about it. It was a proper British department store. Before it shut down i sometimes would wonder around the store and get lost in nostalger.
weird seeing buses and cars on Northend
just wonderful…yep brings back many happy memories sours of how croydon was..yess those bus stops outside alllders always had masses of people waiting and that main road i remember too!! guys croydon now..OMGD..it really is awful!! looking at this video also makes me think that at that exact time, fred and the boys were out there on their European magic tour…awwww wonderful days 🥰🥰🥰
"wow, it's so much better since they made Croydon pedestrian only" --- said nobody ever
These buses look filthy. Nice to see Croydon before pedestrianisation
Notice at 0:45 the driver of the cortina, giving the two-finger salute
This was 1986 and the beginnings of pedestrianisation were there. If you look at the sections where the camera is pointing down the High St towards the junction with Katharine St (where NatWest is) you will see the signs marking the end of pedestrianisation. It was buses only down North End to begin with on weekdays IIRC, so it wasn't total from the beginning. It was a few years later that the drivers decided of their own accord to use Wellesley Road instead of North End and the change became permanent.
Good old days 🎉😊😊😊
These were still about in the 1990s 👌🙏🏴
thanks for video used to go up Croydon back in the 80's+90's........do you have any more from the 80's like Bexleyheath in Kent.....also like how you got 3 well known musical posters on the buses, Phantom of the opera,Time,Les Miserables classic 80's
Croydon is one of my favourite places. I don't give a shit who says what, I'm glad it hasn't changed too much. A Westfield might not have been a good idea.
Wow. By the following autumn (1987) there were no RMs in Croydon and the 68 was operated entirely with very new seeming Leyland Olympians.
Croydon use to somewhere I called home but now it’s just an area I live in.
Omg it was such a nice place a long time ago. But not today 🥲
nice video of old cars, seems to be a lot of busses blocking the view though
Croydon...Good old top rank..and diamonds record shop....
This must be the 80's
I was born in 1985 I lived in chapman road how the times have changed tho 🥺
Back when CR was good.. it’s a crime town nowadays
When the trolleys finished in 1962 my interest waned because I wasn't that impressed with RMs. 25 years on I found myself filming them before THEY disappered from the streets not thinking about the poor old DMS!!
AAAAAh! MEMORIES GALORE !!! NOW ITS A DUMP!!!! FROM,U.K. (2024).
what ever happened to Croydon? it was busy ,full of good shops,look at it now
🥳🥳🥳good old home
lol 0:46, someone just had to stick their fingers up at the camera XD
Good old Croydon
🤣🤣
Ikr
Some of those buses looking a bit shabby - No more Aldenham bus works? Great to see Austin 1100's, Triumph Toledos etc!
Ah the good old days in croydon when it was full of good old English folk .
Nicky Day it was very ethnically diverse , even then
London has changed so much since 1986 and this video recording was made around CITY OF LONDON and the surroundings and is close to Liverpool Street Train station
This is footage from Croydon...
What are you, an Uber driver?
When buses were buses
Can't drive down that road now. It's all a public walk way
Love this 😀
Home sweet shit 'ole
When traffic could flow with no bikes in sight
Surely there must be more footage out there of DMS B20s zooming around!!! I know they were unliked, but if they were maintained properly, they would have be fine!! They did okay in China ETC! I want one or loads.. as well as the bus I have now! (DMS550)- Nice vid BTW!
Same old Croydon ,just in diffrent time shape ..
great stuff
That poor cameraman is having a tough time catching the bus, always nearly makes it in time.
Couldn't hop on with camera in hand!!
Amazed the Croydon series have proved so popular...
Ashburton, tavistock, Davidson, heathclark
Oh my gosh! I went to Tavistock, it closed after my first year😢..went on to Davidson, then finished my schooling at Heathclarke😊
What camera was this filmed on
Haa, when traffic moved freely. Not a single sodding bike lane 😊
Wow 194 went to shrublands
the 194 still does go to Shrublands... More to the pity!
No phones in people's hands and no spy cameras everywhere to fine you for driving or putting a cigarette out.ahh I miss thoughs days when life was simple.u
LOL - makes me feel positively geriatric!
Today it's a dump. I wander why!
Those criminals at Lancashire had to take over ACV and kill off an icon like AEC. Ann act of evil.
OW MY EARS
Its sad when you see these videos. And you can surely guess why.....
but had to go 🤣🤣🤣🤣
London Bus ok ok ok ok ok
Pedestrianised in 1988
Another great part of UK destroyed by political correctness lol
so much whiter back then. sigh!
tell the same thing to all the countries you lot have colonised! So much more native back then . Sigh!
@@ly1295 shut up
@@ly1295 Beat me to it
Now theres no English people.
Bollocks; I grew up in Croydon and go back there quite a lot and there are still plenty of white people there. There were plenty of Asian and Black people when I was growing up too. I went to St Mary's on Sydenham Road and there were kids of all colours.
@@IndigoJo this dick was not from the manor that's for sure!
@@IndigoJo Why is it such a crime ridden dump now Matthew compared to the 80s and 90s????