@@carisi2k11 Gibson teaching everyone they suck. Showing innovation that took forever to catch up to. Mark skaife was king even after the transition to Holden. Showing the upcoming star + best car = slaughter. What's not to like?
Mark Skaife in particular would try and tell everyone who would listen (he still does as of 2019) that the 4WD advantage of the GT-R wasn't all that much of an advantage. His start here and the one he made at Winton where he passed people while on the grass showed that Skaife can be full of shit at times.
Well to be fair to Skaife, the reason he went on the grass at Winton in 1991 was cause Win Percy shut the door on the inside route he was trying to take. Most drivers would've backed off and just tucked behind Percy for turn 1. However since it was Skaife driving and knowing how aggressive he can be, it's really no surprise he did that, odds are he would've tried that in a 2WD car anyway.
@@glennshewin9788... yeah except for the BMW M3's and Ford Sierra RS500's that were actually designed as race cars that were only put into production as road cars because they had to be homologated.
@@Holden308 ... Yeah expect that the M3 and the RS500 were fast versions of the existing platforms of the much older E30 and Sierra. And the R32 was explicitly designed for group A racing with other body styles being derived from the GT-R, not the other way round. It's kind of ridiculous how much the R32's development was dictated by Group A regs.
Holden were the only major Group A contender who basically stuck with the good old family car as their main track weapon through the whole era. And really, other than at Bathurst ... the results showed because in the sprint races on the shorter and tighter tracks, the V8 was generally outclassed.
Outside of amaroo park and bathurst that was about the size of the field. Very small fields which is why the decision was made to go the v8 route. But the M3 was also valid to be used in 1993 along with 2 litre cars. Also as shown by the sierra's our heat in Australia made the sierra and GTR expensive to operate and maintain reliability and with no viable competition much like formula 1 is at the moment the v8 option was a no brainer.
When touring cars were fun to watch!
In what world was that fun
@@carisi2k11 Gibson teaching everyone they suck. Showing innovation that took forever to catch up to. Mark skaife was king even after the transition to Holden. Showing the upcoming star + best car = slaughter. What's not to like?
The car that killed group A. Watching the murder isn't satisfying.
The Era when the old Dinosaur V8 just had no chance against new tech....realistically it must have been just embarrassing for Holden
They all broke too
Would love to watch the 1992 race if you have a copy
Being interviewed and still focused on the race lol 👍🏻
Wow there are only 11 cars in the race
Small field, but great race.
Mark Skaife in particular would try and tell everyone who would listen (he still does as of 2019) that the 4WD advantage of the GT-R wasn't all that much of an advantage. His start here and the one he made at Winton where he passed people while on the grass showed that Skaife can be full of shit at times.
Well to be fair to Skaife, the reason he went on the grass at Winton in 1991 was cause Win Percy shut the door on the inside route he was trying to take. Most drivers would've backed off and just tucked behind Percy for turn 1. However since it was Skaife driving and knowing how aggressive he can be, it's really no surprise he did that, odds are he would've tried that in a 2WD car anyway.
The GTR was designed for racing, all the other cars were just family cars good for towing caravans.
@@glennshewin9788... yeah except for the BMW M3's and Ford Sierra RS500's that were actually designed as race cars that were only put into production as road cars because they had to be homologated.
@@Holden308 ... Yeah expect that the M3 and the RS500 were fast versions of the existing platforms of the much older E30 and Sierra. And the R32 was explicitly designed for group A racing with other body styles being derived from the GT-R, not the other way round. It's kind of ridiculous how much the R32's development was dictated by Group A regs.
Holden were the only major Group A contender who basically stuck with the good old family car as their main track weapon through the whole era. And really, other than at Bathurst ... the results showed because in the sprint races on the shorter and tighter tracks, the V8 was generally outclassed.
I cant remember the size of the field being that small??
Outside of amaroo park and bathurst that was about the size of the field. Very small fields which is why the decision was made to go the v8 route. But the M3 was also valid to be used in 1993 along with 2 litre cars. Also as shown by the sierra's our heat in Australia made the sierra and GTR expensive to operate and maintain reliability and with no viable competition much like formula 1 is at the moment the v8 option was a no brainer.
@@carisi2k11 In this race there were only 3 Commodores Win Percy HRT and the Brock/Perkins entries
Bring back group A
its the greatest i watch it all the time on my box sets love it best racing ever
Skaif's a great driver but will forever walk in the shadow of his teammates Craig Lowndes and Peter Brock
leongt1954 skaife is on the same level as brock, with Lowndes not far behind
You’re joking surely?
What about Richards?
Also a great driver and teammate.
Skaife held his own against all of them.