thank you for the review ive been looking for something really good for soundstaging and imaging primarily for gaming but also for music. I was stuck on different options like the supermix 4 and kiwi ears orchestra lite but ultimate i chose this. Been wanting to try planars and im a sucker for gold shiny things xD.
Amazon is currently offering a 20% coupon in my region. Picked one up for $150. It looks beautiful, and the tuning is a perfect compliment to a planar driver.
finally got my hands on these today and im really happy with them. after buying a handful of iems blindly ive finally found what im satisfied with, thanks to your suggestion from the artti t10 video. i got the nightingale on order now too, and i ordered the new fiio fp3 too out of curiosity. it never ends does it haha
Another awesome review Andy! The thing I love about your review is more of opinion kind of review rather then the usual technical graph kind of review that most reviewer uses. Looking forward to another.
Great content! I've watched a lot of your reviews! About the one that you made an year ago regarding the tangzu heyday i do have a question. Is this version s12 2024 better than the heyday or dunu talos from your perspective?
Yes, as far as I can tell, S12 2024 is the topmost magnetic planar among many, even better than MP145, Heyday and Talos, all of which I dearly love. The only other magnetic planar that I love equally to S12 2024 is SIVGA Nightingale which is still my personal day to day most used favorites
so is the increased resolution from the s12 pro purely coming from the slight tuning change or is there something else going on? If I can eq the s12 pro to the 2024 that would be ideal for me to save some $$ thanks for the review andy
Fantastic review, Andy! I have my sights on this IEM, but I was wondering if it's an actual upgrade from the Z12... I may just buy it because it's such a nice presentation and I don't have a normal S12. Good to see you reviewing!
hi andy, nice review. I have OG s12, can you plsease tell me how does it compares to s12 2024 edition?, what do I miss in OG S12? One more question, I have purchased EPZ TP50 after watching your video review and it sounds amazing, should I use it with low gain or high gain to use it with S12?
S12 2024 to me is a much improved implementation of the og S12 in every way possible. Always run High Gain and 4.4mm BAL for all type of planars, they love power
Hi Andy, now that some time has passed i would like to ask you if you would prefer S12 2024 or Tanchjim origin because i am super confused which one to buy😂. Again thank you! for the content.❤
I love COOL "montage ideas" in videos....... so I love this video as many of the previous :D Great work/job. You deserve more viewers! ... I hope you will get it. (headphones is very niche genre. it's hard to get views) anyway today you have 12k...... so 2k+ in couple of months. So as I told : If you add more "technique stuff" (such as gaming stuff - nintendo switch, etc) you will be boosted. So I afraid that : If you trying to create good videos but don't get satisfy amount of views you can start "burn out".
Hey Andy, great review! I have s12, fiio fh3, hd560s, akg k702, and hifiman sundara. I need iem for jazz and classical music. s12 2024 is better than cadenza 4? or something else? Best from Poland.
Letshuoer is really digging the 8th anniversary with the iems,I do hope that there's a D13 2024 or Tape Pro 2024 coming cause those 2 really need some upgrades.
It’s really top of the line tuned iem. Driving with iBasso dx320 max it sounds better then most of thousand dollars iem. Don’t underestimate the power of delicate tuning. Those subtle changes in sound make the difference between hi-end and regular stuff.
Thanks for the review andy! Just got mine a week ago.. and sadly the sound was anemic on the dragonfly red and decidely unsatisfying on the ve odo.. im getting an onix xl1 in hopes of better sound...
I got mine in yesterday and they are awesome! I prefer these over my mp-145s. The big thing i hate about the mp-145 is the crinkle sound effect every time i insert and adjust them in my ears. The s12 2024 does not have this at all. The FPS game imagining is simply amazing man.
Damn was initially looking at Tanchjim Origin and Hidizs MP145 and have been diverted to this Letshuoer S12 2024 after receiving above from my favourite reviewer and needless to say just placed order for one. 😊 I hope it will live up to expectations and I'm sure it will since all purchases made after watching the reviews here have been positive experiences.
I agree with you on how impressive a single driver can perform so well compared with multi-driver setups. I'm curious to hear whether the Aful Cantor with its 14 BAs can live up to expectations
You forgot to mention the accompanying humidity! 😋 -from the côte d'azur, also 32° all Summer, but luckily, high humidity (often 80%+) only at night... thanks for the review. Still enjoying my z12, awaiting mp143 delivery... Cheers.
Hello Andy, thank you for a great review! I would love to hear from you a few words about how these s12 2024 are compared to Sivga Nightingale, what do you think?
Different sound presentation. Nightingale will remain special with that Mids centric sound and overall warmer than any of my other magnetic planars. Consider S12 2024 is something that bridges the gap between MP145 and Nightingale, I think you get the idea. S12 2024 is more technically adept than Nightingale for sure. One thing I can tell you now, S12 2024 is gradually taking over as my go to planar IEM because it offers me the best of MP145 and Nightingale combined
@@AndyAudioVault Thank you for such in-depth, informative answer. A lot to think of, for sure. Now waiting for Kiwi Ears KE4 review, I guess they are the closest rival to s12 2024 atm. Keep up the good work and stay safe!
Small question. Do you know where can I buy these letshuoer foam tips? I really love them over others and looks like they’re not available on letshuoer website
I prefer the anodised surface finish of the old S12, mine still as good as new. But I’m glad the new version retains the old shape of the S12, because it is super comfortable.
@@AndyAudioVault I trust you Andy! I bought them! I will get them on the 11th (edit: of Nov 2024)! Pairing with the Onix Alpha. I love musicalilty, good bass and good treble.
Heyya, Andy! Little late to the party but GREAT review & take on S12 2024. Got mine in, enjoying the heck out of it & had nothing but praises. Been rocking it with Abigail Pro 4.4 but I feel like I want to treat it(and myself lol) to something that showcases more of its capabilities. Wondering what your take is on between pairing it with Onix Alpha(@ $90), despite some ppl having pairing/software issues that may or may not affected sound output, or with a the new TRN TE Pro(@ $66) which was described as kinda sorta a re-skinned EPZ TP50 more or less; transitioned myself to favor Musical over Analytical nowadays. Thanks & keep up the great content 🙂♥️
Thanks. Pairing it with ONIX Alpha XI? fyi this review that I did and like all other IEMs review I done since I got ONIX was done a lot pairing them with the Alpha. Of course being super amazing and one of the two of topmost performer in #donglemadness this year alongside DC07Pro, the synergy is mind-blowingly amazing, only topped by either DX180 or DX260 by a hair
Thanks, Heyday is another planar IEM which I really like but objectively I believe this S12 2024 is performing even better than the highly rated MP145/143
Dunu SnS tips actually dont tame or tone down the treble (in the scooping out fassion or rolling off fassion) they smoothing out peaks. Soft silicone material ... So they are not cutting of extension just ironing the FR. Nice tips along with TRN T tips and azla tips, also soft silicone.
Consider the different effects on different ear cavity shape and different human sensitivity to sound and pinna, while I absolutely love KZ foam tips because it is perfect for me, I know a lot of people also hated it to the core, so tips will behave differently with different ears
@@AndyAudioVault yes I see what you mean. I also meant that SnS are widebored so that ,,tameness,, cant be from a typical roll of, extension is there they just smoothing out the peaks, resonaces. Thats why I like them as a tool. I also like TRN T tips for that reason although bore is a little bit smaller and they sound accordingly 🙂
Hey Andy, thanks for the great review! I am thinking of upgrading from my S12 Pro and Truthear Hexa. Cant decide between Letshuoer S12 2024 Edition and Cadenza 4. Which one do you think I should go for? S12 2024 edition or Cadenza 4?
No worries. I am more inclined to suggest S12 2024 over Cadenza, unless of course you prefer a Harman sound curve of which S12 Pro is NOT Harman. Otherwise, both are already amazing IEMs in their own rights
I didn't compare it with T10s and F1Pro because the S12 2024 is clearly superior to my longtime favorite of MP145 and even the recently released MP143 (of which MP144/MP143 is already superior than T10s/F1Pro). They all shared the same speedy magnetic planar sound and scales amazing with power, just that S12 2024 is topping the chart now for being the topmost planar for 2024, period
does it handle busy track well?? for example like track from The Nutcrackers or The 5.6.7.8's and also thanks your the insightful review as always Andy!!
I got my MP145 10 days back, using sliver nozzle with balanced tip, I've a 4.4 mm jack cable . These sound great as I love the way it produces tones that are natural sounding and airy. I got a miro gipe though, I like vocals and unless I increase the volume to 60 percent, these sound slightly heldback. At 60, instruments get quite loud as well, which I don't like. Is there a fix to it, can enhance vocals slightly? I am sure, your hack will help many users along with me. Also, is it absolutely worth to switch to S12 Pro 2024. Please help.
MP145 is still a V Curve tuned IEM so it does not emphasize on the Mids that much at all. If you love bold Mids, SIVGA Nightingale does it better. You can still play with different ear tips to see if it will change the forwardness of the Mids
i tried audition for S12 2024, and I still prefer the s12 Pro. IMO, the improvement is small and i found the sacrifice the mids (thin-bodied) to attain the larger soundstage. The treble may be hot to some song and it is source dependent and requires alot of power to drive.
Hi andy, is it worth to jump from kz linglong to here? I love the sound on my Linglong ❤️, i love dd bass can this s12 2024 be close to that dd bass sound?
Hi Andy, how does the s 12 2024 compare to the tanchjim origin please? which in your opinion are better for classical, instrumental, jazz music? I have origin, should I change them to s12 2024
Origin has flatter overall sound curve and not as energetic or fast as S12 2024. Both I consider as exceedingly great with tuning. On a personal note, I prefer S12 2024 more for the super-fast, airy dynamic transients which is a hallmark of very well-tuned magnetic planars
Hi Andy, I am avid follower since i feel like the kind of music you listen to resonates with mine. I like the genre of music metal, rock, busy instrumental indian music. I already own the truthear red is it worth to upgrade to s12 2024? Please replyy Love from India :)
That's iBasso DC07Pro. The highs is probably the very best anyone can expect for IEMs this year for outright performance and extension. The vocals were never recessed.
Hey Andy, i have the original S12. Ive been saving up to upgrade to a US$300-500 hybrid driver IEM like Estrella, Mega5EST, Hype 4, Moondrop Dusk (latter two you didn't review). I never tried hybrid IEM, do you think there is more value for me to go for a hybrid iem or just upgrade to S12 2024, since you deem it to be competitive with TOTL?
Yes, between all the IEMs that you mentioned, I gonna openly say S12 2024 is my personal choice IEM now to replace my longtime favorites of MP145 and SIVGA Nightingale. And I always recommend something that I personally use. Don't get me wrong, there's tons of super impressive IEMs now and we are spoilt for choices, can't really go wrong with any one of them really
Hi, I want to buy an IEM and finalized 2 IEMs, S12 2024 and Ziigaat Arete, I don't have much preference as I am currently using QKZ HBB 20$ Iem, and planning to upgrade, my main purpose is mainly gaming and watching anime and bit of music listening. Please suggest one of these. Also I don't have any dac/amp. I will directly use them to my iphone using lightning to 3.5mm dongle and my macbook pro.
Have a look at the rating in the video description and you will see this S12 2014 will have 3 point more overall score vs MP145. You can can also see where it improved in comparison to MP145
Do you reckon the S12 Anniversary Edition would be the ideal IEM for someone wantinf to try their first Planar? Before this review ive been eyeing the Tangzu Heyday.
Yes absolutely. We are talking about the best magnetic planar to exist yet and having S12 2024 is like you don't have to worry about what you will be missing because it is there right at the top of the food chain
@@AndyAudioVault alright I've ordered one myself! Looking forward to it. I also bought the Fiio KA11 and iBasso DC03 Pro after watching your donglemadness videos, would these two be more than capable for S12 Anniversary Edition?
Different. Nightingale will remain special with that Mids centric sound and overall warmer than any of my other magnetic planars. Consider S12 2024 is something that bridges the gap between MP145 and Nightingale, I think you get the idea. S12 2024 is more technically adept than Nightingale for sure
Hey I tried to find your friend Ben in RUclips but couldn’t find his sound meow channel(if he has any). Can you please link it? I like his opinion too as well as yours. I have been following you since 2 months. Love your videos all the way from India🇮🇳
To choose between the two of them, need to understand our own sound preferences. Cadenza 4 is a true neutral Harman IEM so the overall sound tuning offers more transparency and neutrality (flatter overall) which means S12 2024 is a bit more colored (very minimal coloration). S12 being a magnetic planar offers better transient speed and dynamic decays while Cadenza 4 offers crisp accuracy and precision rendering. In short both are amazing in what they were meant to offer, the user preferences will ultimately decide which one you will like more over the other
FX17 coming Hybrid Electrostatic IEM from fiio defo i wondering review from you also new bluetooth earhook coming u should try with high-end iem with it need to learn results of sound quality with it.
If you already like EM6L and prefer something which is energetic then Estrella might suit you better, but if you want a flatter more transparent sound then S12 2024 is what I would choose
So S12 is better than MP143 OR MP145 right Andy? Is the standard LETSHUOER S12 the same as the S12 2024 8th Anniversary Edition - Gold Standard? I ask that as I am not in favor of the rose gold color. Thanks!
@@AndyAudioVault I just ordered mine yesterday. It should be here in a few days and I’m gonna have Ron Jeremy in my pocket. Go figure. Have a good one. Be safe.
I personally haven't tried the S15 but with S12 2024 even outscoring the venerable MP145/MP143 by 3 points overall, it is safe to say S12 2024 is superior than S15
Sorry for having some doubts on your input regarding cables, and that's why I have a question about it: How do these different type of cables actually make a difference? I've seen posts from people saying that the cables don't make a sound difference and are only for aesthetics, yet reviewers that I like (especially you) really do notice it and say it can be a game changer. Really sorry for having some doubts, but I would really appreciate it if there's some explanation behind it.
It's simple really, trust what you hear. Some people hear differences in sound, and some don't, and it is perfectly fine. The only thing that matters is what you hear with your own ears. What is not okay, to downplay someone else because they hear differently from you. I have tested tons of equipment, and I describe what I hear, I heard differences in different configuration of cables, so does many other folks that I know. There's clear timbre temperament variance especially between SPC and OCC/OFC, some more prominent than others, some don't
@@AndyAudioVault Thank you so much for taking your time to answer a random comment such as mine LOL. I really appreciate it, and needed it a lot! Guess it’s time for me to give cables a try to see for myself as well. Hopefully my comment didn’t sound like I’m downplaying your takes and thoughts upon testing IEM cables (tho now I can see it’s at risk for misinterpretation, after you mentioned it lol). Once again, thank you for the help and all the effort you have done for these videos, and for people like me who need guidance exploring this hobby! (idk a different term for this other than the IEM world so…)
I believe so. I personally haven't tried the S15 but with S12 2024 even outscoring the venerable MP145/MP143 by 3 points overall, it is safe to say S12 2024 is superior than S15
Hello Andy! I'd like to know if you heard about a popular IEM recently, called "LUCIFER" from ARTPICAL. I went to a few local hifi audio stores, they all said it's the best IEM in its price range, I really want to know you opinion on it, thanks! It's a DD driver IEM, looks distinctive, but the cavity is too small for me to block my ears, resulting in a loss of low frequencies. So I can't judge whether it's good or bad.
They just came back in stock. Ordered today. Thank you for the great review!
Glad I could help!
Excellent review. Your videos are the cure to my audiophile and Street photography itch, in one.
Cheers! 🙏
This blogger format already sets a very high standard, excellent review.
Thanks so much!
thank you for the review ive been looking for something really good for soundstaging and imaging primarily for gaming but also for music. I was stuck on different options like the supermix 4 and kiwi ears orchestra lite but ultimate i chose this. Been wanting to try planars and im a sucker for gold shiny things xD.
I am sure you will be pleased 😁
Dude great video. Well edited and just masterfully done!
Much appreciated! 🙏
Amazon is currently offering a 20% coupon in my region. Picked one up for $150. It looks beautiful, and the tuning is a perfect compliment to a planar driver.
Fanatstic review Andy! That looks like a very nice set. Love your production brother!
Thanks. I personally love the S12 2024. Glad you enjoy my current video format. Cheers! 🙏
This should have been named the C-3PO edition!
Excellent review & recommendation, Andy! Thank you! 😃👍🎶🎵
My pleasure!
finally got my hands on these today and im really happy with them. after buying a handful of iems blindly ive finally found what im satisfied with, thanks to your suggestion from the artti t10 video. i got the nightingale on order now too, and i ordered the new fiio fp3 too out of curiosity. it never ends does it haha
Lol thanks so much! yesss! it never ends. R.I.P wallet 😅🤣
Another awesome review Andy! The thing I love about your review is more of opinion kind of review rather then the usual technical graph kind of review that most reviewer uses. Looking forward to another.
I appreciate that! Thanks Kelvin!
Bro awesome video production. Love watching it. It’s like low-key yet catchy. 😉
Thanks bro. Sometime soon I want to feature you and Agnes in one of my videos. I will let you know on this
00:07 I thought you said, "Walking in the middle of Fallout 4" 😂🤣🙂
@@TheModeRed 🤣
Great content! I've watched a lot of your reviews! About the one that you made an year ago regarding the tangzu heyday i do have a question. Is this version s12 2024 better than the heyday or dunu talos from your perspective?
Yes, as far as I can tell, S12 2024 is the topmost magnetic planar among many, even better than MP145, Heyday and Talos, all of which I dearly love. The only other magnetic planar that I love equally to S12 2024 is SIVGA Nightingale which is still my personal day to day most used favorites
so is the increased resolution from the s12 pro purely coming from the slight tuning change or is there something else going on? If I can eq the s12 pro to the 2024 that would be ideal for me to save some $$
thanks for the review andy
I am not sure if you can EQ it, as I am not the type that use EQ at all. Perhaps you can
Fantastic review, Andy! I have my sights on this IEM, but I was wondering if it's an actual upgrade from the Z12... I may just buy it because it's such a nice presentation and I don't have a normal S12. Good to see you reviewing!
Thanks, FYI the Z12 is more bass heavy and not as flat transparent like the S12 2024
@donglemadness Thank you sir!
hi andy, nice review. I have OG s12, can you plsease tell me how does it compares to s12 2024 edition?, what do I miss in OG S12? One more question, I have purchased EPZ TP50 after watching your video review and it sounds amazing, should I use it with low gain or high gain to use it with S12?
S12 2024 to me is a much improved implementation of the og S12 in every way possible. Always run High Gain and 4.4mm BAL for all type of planars, they love power
Hi Andy, now that some time has passed i would like to ask you if you would prefer S12 2024 or Tanchjim origin because i am super confused which one to buy😂. Again thank you! for the content.❤
Absolutely S12 2024 over Origin for me
@@AndyAudioVault thank you! for your reply 🙏❤️
I love COOL "montage ideas" in videos....... so I love this video as many of the previous :D
Great work/job.
You deserve more viewers! ... I hope you will get it. (headphones is very niche genre. it's hard to get views) anyway today you have 12k...... so 2k+ in couple of months.
So as I told : If you add more "technique stuff" (such as gaming stuff - nintendo switch, etc) you will be boosted. So I afraid that : If you trying to create good videos but don't get satisfy amount of views you can start "burn out".
Thanks!. It's okay, I have just started over a year ago. I just need to be consistent and hopefully this channel will grow naturally. Cheers 🙏
Hey Andy, great review! I have s12, fiio fh3, hd560s, akg k702, and hifiman sundara. I need iem for jazz and classical music. s12 2024 is better than cadenza 4? or something else?
Best from Poland.
Yes, for the type of music you mentioned I pick S12 2024 over Cadenza 4
Thanks for the review abe andy... would be nice if you can send penang...I want to experience !!
Sama sama. nnt PM
I still have my sayang, a pair of OG S12 from 2022. I'm really tempted to snag a pair of this version just for the bling.
Letshuoer is really digging the 8th anniversary with the iems,I do hope that there's a D13 2024 or Tape Pro 2024 coming cause those 2 really need some upgrades.
It’s really top of the line tuned iem. Driving with iBasso dx320 max it sounds better then most of thousand dollars iem.
Don’t underestimate the power of delicate tuning. Those subtle changes in sound make the difference between hi-end and regular stuff.
Thanks for the review andy!
Just got mine a week ago.. and sadly the sound was anemic on the dragonfly red and decidely unsatisfying on the ve odo.. im getting an onix xl1 in hopes of better sound...
I like this kind of review! Thanks a lot, Andy! But why didn't you compare it with the S15? I think that would've been very useful for a lot of us.
Thanks! the simple answer, I haven't tried S15 yet
I got mine in yesterday and they are awesome! I prefer these over my mp-145s. The big thing i hate about the mp-145 is the crinkle sound effect every time i insert and adjust them in my ears. The s12 2024 does not have this at all. The FPS game imagining is simply amazing man.
Damn was initially looking at Tanchjim Origin and Hidizs MP145 and have been diverted to this Letshuoer S12 2024 after receiving above from my favourite reviewer and needless to say just placed order for one. 😊 I hope it will live up to expectations and I'm sure it will since all purchases made after watching the reviews here have been positive experiences.
Both me and Ben genuinely feel that S12 2024 is the better IEM compared to Origin or MP145, so yes I have a good feeling you will like it a lot
I agree with you on how impressive a single driver can perform so well compared with multi-driver setups. I'm curious to hear whether the Aful Cantor with its 14 BAs can live up to expectations
I am curious too!
You forgot to mention the accompanying humidity! 😋 -from the côte d'azur, also 32° all Summer, but luckily, high humidity (often 80%+) only at night... thanks for the review. Still enjoying my z12, awaiting mp143 delivery... Cheers.
Plus it's very cool (haha) to get a look at where you live.. Armchair tourism 😉
Lol the humidity yes! Feels like walking through steam haha. Cheers
Hello Andy, thank you for a great review! I would love to hear from you a few words about how these s12 2024 are compared to Sivga Nightingale, what do you think?
Different sound presentation. Nightingale will remain special with that Mids centric sound and overall warmer than any of my other magnetic planars. Consider S12 2024 is something that bridges the gap between MP145 and Nightingale, I think you get the idea. S12 2024 is more technically adept than Nightingale for sure. One thing I can tell you now, S12 2024 is gradually taking over as my go to planar IEM because it offers me the best of MP145 and Nightingale combined
@@AndyAudioVault Thank you for such in-depth, informative answer. A lot to think of, for sure. Now waiting for Kiwi Ears KE4 review, I guess they are the closest rival to s12 2024 atm. Keep up the good work and stay safe!
Small question. Do you know where can I buy these letshuoer foam tips? I really love them over others and looks like they’re not available on letshuoer website
The closest one would be KZ foam tips which I use 90% of the time
My friend I am living in a middle EU and 32 Celsius is nothing already. We have to bare 35-38 no problem in the summer 😬😅
You forgot the humidity level here, 32c feels like 37c haha, with the added steam sensation over searing heat😅
@@AndyAudioVault true, but I also bet from time to time you have that sea breeze there 😅, which we dont have 🥲
I prefer the anodised surface finish of the old S12, mine still as good as new. But I’m glad the new version retains the old shape of the S12, because it is super comfortable.
I just lost one side of my Supermix 4 while on vacay. Thinking about the Letshuoer S12 Anniversary to replace it and upgrade it. Is this the way?
Absolutely. I personally use S12 2024 regularly over many other IEMs, so yes it's a clear upgrade
@@AndyAudioVault I trust you Andy! I bought them! I will get them on the 11th (edit: of Nov 2024)! Pairing with the Onix Alpha. I love musicalilty, good bass and good treble.
Heyya, Andy! Little late to the party but GREAT review & take on S12 2024. Got mine in, enjoying the heck out of it & had nothing but praises. Been rocking it with Abigail Pro 4.4 but I feel like I want to treat it(and myself lol) to something that showcases more of its capabilities.
Wondering what your take is on between pairing it with Onix Alpha(@ $90), despite some ppl having pairing/software issues that may or may not affected sound output, or with a the new TRN TE Pro(@ $66) which was described as kinda sorta a re-skinned EPZ TP50 more or less; transitioned myself to favor Musical over Analytical nowadays.
Thanks & keep up the great content 🙂♥️
Thanks. Pairing it with ONIX Alpha XI? fyi this review that I did and like all other IEMs review I done since I got ONIX was done a lot pairing them with the Alpha. Of course being super amazing and one of the two of topmost performer in #donglemadness this year alongside DC07Pro, the synergy is mind-blowingly amazing, only topped by either DX180 or DX260 by a hair
Another excellent review! Could you tell us if the Zetian Wu Heyday is still better than this S12 or vice versa? 🤔
Thanks, Heyday is another planar IEM which I really like but objectively I believe this S12 2024 is performing even better than the highly rated MP145/143
Great review Andy, will you add it to your spreadsheet at some point?
Done!
@@AndyAudioVault Great, thanks.
Dunu SnS tips actually dont tame or tone down the treble (in the scooping out fassion or rolling off fassion) they smoothing out peaks. Soft silicone material ... So they are not cutting of extension just ironing the FR. Nice tips along with TRN T tips and azla tips, also soft silicone.
Consider the different effects on different ear cavity shape and different human sensitivity to sound and pinna, while I absolutely love KZ foam tips because it is perfect for me, I know a lot of people also hated it to the core, so tips will behave differently with different ears
@@AndyAudioVault yes I see what you mean. I also meant that SnS are widebored so that ,,tameness,, cant be from a typical roll of, extension is there they just smoothing out the peaks, resonaces. Thats why I like them as a tool. I also like TRN T tips for that reason although bore is a little bit smaller and they sound accordingly 🙂
Damn this Dragon Ball edition is really tempting 😎
Hey Andy, thanks for the great review! I am thinking of upgrading from my S12 Pro and Truthear Hexa. Cant decide between Letshuoer S12 2024 Edition and Cadenza 4. Which one do you think I should go for? S12 2024 edition or Cadenza 4?
No worries. I am more inclined to suggest S12 2024 over Cadenza, unless of course you prefer a Harman sound curve of which S12 Pro is NOT Harman. Otherwise, both are already amazing IEMs in their own rights
Hi Andy, I was hoping you would even compare it to the Artti T10 and the NICEHCK F1pro...
☮️
I didn't compare it with T10s and F1Pro because the S12 2024 is clearly superior to my longtime favorite of MP145 and even the recently released MP143 (of which MP144/MP143 is already superior than T10s/F1Pro). They all shared the same speedy magnetic planar sound and scales amazing with power, just that S12 2024 is topping the chart now for being the topmost planar for 2024, period
@donglemadness Thank you, Andy...
I love my T10...
I just put my order in for the S12 2024 on Amazon and I should get it soon...
I can't wait.☮️
does it handle busy track well?? for example like track from The Nutcrackers or The 5.6.7.8's
and also thanks your the insightful review as always Andy!!
Absolutely, like most well tuned magnetic planars, S12 2024 is a speed demon that handles very complex or transient speed demanding stuffs
I got my MP145 10 days back, using sliver nozzle with balanced tip, I've a 4.4 mm jack cable . These sound great as I love the way it produces tones that are natural sounding and airy. I got a miro gipe though, I like vocals and unless I increase the volume to 60 percent, these sound slightly heldback. At 60, instruments get quite loud as well, which I don't like. Is there a fix to it, can enhance vocals slightly? I am sure, your hack will help many users along with me. Also, is it absolutely worth to switch to S12 Pro 2024. Please help.
MP145 is still a V Curve tuned IEM so it does not emphasize on the Mids that much at all. If you love bold Mids, SIVGA Nightingale does it better. You can still play with different ear tips to see if it will change the forwardness of the Mids
@@AndyAudioVault thank you! 😀
@@AndyAudioVaultis the s12 2024 better for vocals though? How does it compare to S08 when it comes to vocals?
i tried audition for S12 2024, and I still prefer the s12 Pro. IMO, the improvement is small and i found the sacrifice the mids (thin-bodied) to attain the larger soundstage. The treble may be hot to some song and it is source dependent and requires alot of power to drive.
Hi andy, is it worth to jump from kz linglong to here? I love the sound on my Linglong ❤️, i love dd bass can this s12 2024 be close to that dd bass sound?
Absolutely. S12 2014 is miles ahead better in every way compared to Linglong. You will love the fast yet natural sounding Bass of S12 2024
@@AndyAudioVault for technical is it the same for estrella and S12 2024?
Thank you from Indo 🔥🔥👌
Hi Andy, how does the s 12 2024 compare to the tanchjim origin please? which in your opinion are better for classical, instrumental, jazz music? I have origin, should I change them to s12 2024
Origin has flatter overall sound curve and not as energetic or fast as S12 2024. Both I consider as exceedingly great with tuning. On a personal note, I prefer S12 2024 more for the super-fast, airy dynamic transients which is a hallmark of very well-tuned magnetic planars
What filter did you use for this S12 2024 edition when pairing with Onix Alpha? Slow or nonoversampling?
I use the Slow filters for best balance of natural decays when used with ONIX Alpha XI
Hi Andy, I received my s12 2024 yesterday. Question: Does a planar driver warm up over time or is this only true for dynamic drivers?
Not as much as dynamic drivers. My observation is that this 2024 S12 needed only a few hours of usage to bed in
Hi Andy, I am avid follower since i feel like the kind of music you listen to resonates with mine. I like the genre of music metal, rock, busy instrumental indian music. I already own the truthear red is it worth to upgrade to s12 2024? Please replyy
Love from India :)
Yes absolutely. To me S12 2024 is a clear upgrade over Truthear Red and many other IEMs. S12 2024 is in fact my daily go-to IEMs I use now. Cheers 🤘🏼
@@AndyAudioVault thankyou so much for the reply.. i am definitely going to order it right now ❤️
Yeah man, release them in black please.
i have a tempotec sonata bhd (non pro) will it be enough for this iem?
Yes, should be no issues with power
hi andy is it goof for heavy metals and hard rock?
Yes absolutely
@@AndyAudioVault even the regular version? not the pro version?
Andy what is your favorite foam tips to use with iem ??.....
KZ foam tips
@@AndyAudioVault 👍 I am placing order now.. thanks Andy 🙏
3:36 what's the dac by onix alpha?
Also, how's the highs with with these news s12? Are vocals recessed still?
That's iBasso DC07Pro. The highs is probably the very best anyone can expect for IEMs this year for outright performance and extension. The vocals were never recessed.
@@AndyAudioVault Thanks
Does it beat the fabulous Sivga Nightingale (my fav and yours too) for metal music? Hopefully no, else i would have to spend more money!
Beat? no. They complement each other. The way I see it, S12 2024 replaces my MP145 and now I have three favorite planars in regular rotation
Hey Andy, i have the original S12. Ive been saving up to upgrade to a US$300-500 hybrid driver IEM like Estrella, Mega5EST, Hype 4, Moondrop Dusk (latter two you didn't review). I never tried hybrid IEM, do you think there is more value for me to go for a hybrid iem or just upgrade to S12 2024, since you deem it to be competitive with TOTL?
Yes, between all the IEMs that you mentioned, I gonna openly say S12 2024 is my personal choice IEM now to replace my longtime favorites of MP145 and SIVGA Nightingale. And I always recommend something that I personally use. Don't get me wrong, there's tons of super impressive IEMs now and we are spoilt for choices, can't really go wrong with any one of them really
Hi, I want to buy an IEM and finalized 2 IEMs, S12 2024 and Ziigaat Arete, I don't have much preference as I am currently using QKZ HBB 20$ Iem, and planning to upgrade, my main purpose is mainly gaming and watching anime and bit of music listening. Please suggest one of these. Also I don't have any dac/amp. I will directly use them to my iphone using lightning to 3.5mm dongle and my macbook pro.
Get S12 2024 and treat yourself with one of the very best this year yet. I personally use it as my main planar IEM now
Andy,which one you prefer the S12 2024 version to Final Audio A5000?
Very close, but now I am more fond of S12 2024
@@AndyAudioVault for black/metal listening?
I'm planning to buy this and another dongle dac. Which would be better for S12 2024, Onix Alpha, or DC07 Pro?
If you can spend up to $200, get DC07Pro, otherwise ONIX Alpha
@@AndyAudioVault thanks!
Looking at sound alone, which key areas of this s12 2024 do you think is more superior than the MP145?
Have a look at the rating in the video description and you will see this S12 2014 will have 3 point more overall score vs MP145. You can can also see where it improved in comparison to MP145
S12 vs s12 pro vs simgot ea1000. Which one does the community prefer more?
Do you reckon the S12 Anniversary Edition would be the ideal IEM for someone wantinf to try their first Planar? Before this review ive been eyeing the Tangzu Heyday.
Yes absolutely. We are talking about the best magnetic planar to exist yet and having S12 2024 is like you don't have to worry about what you will be missing because it is there right at the top of the food chain
@@AndyAudioVault alright I've ordered one myself! Looking forward to it. I also bought the Fiio KA11 and iBasso DC03 Pro after watching your donglemadness videos, would these two be more than capable for S12 Anniversary Edition?
How does this compare to the Arete? I listen a lot to female vocal jpop and such. Thank you
Arete is more colored and less transparent compared to S12 2014 where S12 Pro has flatter more neutral Mids all the way to Lower frequency vs Arete
are these better than sivga nightingale? I ordered.
Different. Nightingale will remain special with that Mids centric sound and overall warmer than any of my other magnetic planars. Consider S12 2024 is something that bridges the gap between MP145 and Nightingale, I think you get the idea. S12 2024 is more technically adept than Nightingale for sure
Hey I tried to find your friend Ben in RUclips but couldn’t find his sound meow channel(if he has any). Can you please link it? I like his opinion too as well as yours. I have been following you since 2 months. Love your videos all the way from India🇮🇳
Ben does not have a RUclips Channel, but if you Google SoundMeow, you will find his site
Is it worth the upgrade if I already have an s12pro?
Yes
How do you pick between cadenza4 and this one? I like listen to both male and female vocal
To choose between the two of them, need to understand our own sound preferences. Cadenza 4 is a true neutral Harman IEM so the overall sound tuning offers more transparency and neutrality (flatter overall) which means S12 2024 is a bit more colored (very minimal coloration). S12 being a magnetic planar offers better transient speed and dynamic decays while Cadenza 4 offers crisp accuracy and precision rendering. In short both are amazing in what they were meant to offer, the user preferences will ultimately decide which one you will like more over the other
FX17 coming Hybrid Electrostatic IEM from fiio defo i wondering review from you also new bluetooth earhook coming u should try with high-end iem with it need to learn results of sound quality with it.
I keep my eyes on that one
The nozzle looks wider on the 2024 compared to s12 pro, can you confirm the width?
Yes the 2024 is larger by almost 1mm compared to the S12Pro
hey andy, i am planning to get an upgrade iem from em6l , which the best choice between s12 2024 or estrella ?
If you already like EM6L and prefer something which is energetic then Estrella might suit you better, but if you want a flatter more transparent sound then S12 2024 is what I would choose
So S12 is better than MP143 OR MP145 right Andy?
Is the standard LETSHUOER S12 the same as the S12 2024 8th Anniversary Edition - Gold Standard?
I ask that as I am not in favor of the rose gold color.
Thanks!
The og S12 is good but not as refined as MP145, and now this S12 2024 tops them all
is it suitable for rock and metal song? compared to the og s12 or mp145
Yes absolutely, I enjoy the S12 2024 a lot for my Extreme Metal playlist
If the S12 2024 is 90% of FA19, and S12 Pro is 90% of it, would you roughly say that the archaic S12 Pro is about 80% of FA19?
That sounds about right
Im not an audiophile…could you explain how the s12 2024 is close to fa19 on performance?
Close in terms of overall resolution and imaging, 90% close to what FA19 delivers
@@AndyAudioVault ok that sold me…just got it for $160 + tax, I got lucky with 20% off coupon. It would be my first planar iem. Thanks!
How is this compared with EW300 Simgot?
No contest, S12 2014 is on a different league altogether
Bling-Bling
can you eq s12 pro to 2024?
I don't use EQ so I have no idea on this one
performance rating vs other iems?
It's updated in the online XLS. Check the link
Son that lunch of yours looks good!!!😯👍
Yummy indeed!
I think a better name for this is the Ron Jeremy plug edition, my God at the size of that thing
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@@AndyAudioVault I just ordered mine yesterday. It should be here in a few days and I’m gonna have Ron Jeremy in my pocket. Go figure. Have a good one. Be safe.
How would this compare to the Letshouer S15?
I personally haven't tried the S15 but with S12 2024 even outscoring the venerable MP145/MP143 by 3 points overall, it is safe to say S12 2024 is superior than S15
@@AndyAudioVault Thanks. All the best!
Sorry for having some doubts on your input regarding cables, and that's why I have a question about it: How do these different type of cables actually make a difference? I've seen posts from people saying that the cables don't make a sound difference and are only for aesthetics, yet reviewers that I like (especially you) really do notice it and say it can be a game changer.
Really sorry for having some doubts, but I would really appreciate it if there's some explanation behind it.
It's simple really, trust what you hear. Some people hear differences in sound, and some don't, and it is perfectly fine. The only thing that matters is what you hear with your own ears. What is not okay, to downplay someone else because they hear differently from you. I have tested tons of equipment, and I describe what I hear, I heard differences in different configuration of cables, so does many other folks that I know. There's clear timbre temperament variance especially between SPC and OCC/OFC, some more prominent than others, some don't
@@AndyAudioVault Thank you so much for taking your time to answer a random comment such as mine LOL. I really appreciate it, and needed it a lot! Guess it’s time for me to give cables a try to see for myself as well. Hopefully my comment didn’t sound like I’m downplaying your takes and thoughts upon testing IEM cables (tho now I can see it’s at risk for misinterpretation, after you mentioned it lol). Once again, thank you for the help and all the effort you have done for these videos, and for people like me who need guidance exploring this hobby! (idk a different term for this other than the IEM world so…)
32??? pfff.... we have 40 at summer
So it's also better than the unfamous S15
I believe so. I personally haven't tried the S15 but with S12 2024 even outscoring the venerable MP145/MP143 by 3 points overall, it is safe to say S12 2024 is superior than S15
32° is not hot.. Just normal..
Hello Andy! I'd like to know if you heard about a popular IEM recently, called "LUCIFER" from ARTPICAL. I went to a few local hifi audio stores, they all said it's the best IEM in its price range, I really want to know you opinion on it, thanks! It's a DD driver IEM, looks distinctive, but the cavity is too small for me to block my ears, resulting in a loss of low frequencies. So I can't judge whether it's good or bad.
Thanks for the heads up. I never heard of it but now I am interested, lol!
Really wondering how much better tech and resolution over my quartet, P1 max and dioko
Roughly around 10-20% better than those three
@@AndyAudioVaultTy 🙏 Looks like they have a limited batch of these. Marketing getting to me 😅
How does s12 compares with Ziigaat Estrella?
S12 2024 has faster dynamic transients and more airy with the decays, just a hair brighter too vs Estrella