Plex - How They Can Turn Things Around?
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00:00 - The Start
01:00 - Quick Disclaimer
01:19 - Plex Stats on Size and Financing
03:23 - The End of Lifetime Plex Pass
05:24 - New Tiers and Ad-Supported Free Client Tier
07:43 - More One-Off Fees
09:09 - Hardware Integration
10:53 - Streaming Partnerships... Deal with the devil?
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I can see them getting rid of the lifetime pass for any new users, but if they start restricting those of us that have lifetime pass already and have been long time supporters, I think they are going to have more bad blood then they want to deal with.
Yea 100%
They'd basically have to. Whatever userbase they have is probably pretty saturated, so I don't think just ending it for new users would bring them the money to survive.
yup. I just bought one last Black Friday and would spend the rest of my life badmouthing them everywhere I could if they did that shit. especially as they offer no real support for paying customers
Yeah, if they pull the support for lifetime users, than that is going to stab them harder than the situation they already are in.
The moment Plex starts showing any form of in-video advertisement, they can wave goodbye to more than half of their users. Or if they start meddling with perpetual licences. I'm very sure Plex is aware that Jellyfin is just getting better over time. Give Jellyfin one more year, and we will see a sizeable decline in "60M" active users number.
It's really hard to grow user base, but in days of open source software being such a strong competitor, its super easy to loose it.
After all, it's just a media player...
Having spent the money for a lifetime pass, I want two things. Hardware acceleration on my server, and zero ads. If I lose either of those, either because they remove the lifetime pass, or strip features from those with it, I'll be looking elsewhere or just stop using Plex altogether. I do want to be clear though, I don't care if people that use my server that haven't been paying for a Plex pass start receiving ads, as long as those within my "home" still don't see ads.
Tbe problem with that is being able to have people VPN into the network and watch the videos on the server without ads.
Now, I hate ads and think they shouldnt even be there if people pay for a service. That's why you pay for the service. Just saying, the fix you said isnt really foolproof from how they view it
@@MrDanderskoff i didn’t offer a fix, just a fact that if i have to watch ads for my own content, that i won’t be using their service anymore.
I don't get ads. Don't think people who use my Plex do either. No have lifetime pass.
I dont even understand what the point of all this is. PLEX is a libary that makes your stuff look like netflix. I see how their software has value by downloading the information and adding pictures by itself, BUT as long as i'm in my local network my TV just looks for the local plex server. If they make me watch advertisements before my own stuff.... I switch to another software.
Again why should I (or by proxy you!), have to pay Plex a "You will own nothing" Subscription, just to be able to use it to watch local content? Plex is not contributing one cent in subsidizing the costs of my NAS, (or the Storage therein, or the kWh of running that contaption in the first place). Jellyfin does 99.999% of what I need it to, it does it largely free, it doent spam me with crappy D-list Movies, or Ads there-in. Best of all there are 0, nix, nadda, no paywalls to jump over.
Everybody gangsta until they lose their customers to Jellyfin 😒😂
Honestly unless you need that WAF of a supper sleek interface. Why the Hell would you NOT use Jellyfin?
I've said it before but, Plex has absolutely zero prepositional value to me. It can NOT stream to any client, without having cast your prayers to the Great Paywall, and for what? To use my Hardware, My Storage, and my 'leccy (as the Video Op would say!), to do something as basic as allowing me to stream my content to my Phone, or Phablet. I'm sure this was acceptable back in the days of Twonky Media Server, but thankfully we have since moved on. Plex does do things that Jellyfin (Quite thankfully), can't do, streaming D-class Hollywood trash that nobody, and their dog ever asked for, for starters. Yeah I guess its kinda cool. But, I'd rather concentrate on building my own content, of TV, Movies Music, etc.
@@Ichijoe2112 I don't get this constant refrain that Plex has a sleeker interface. I used Plex for years, and I think Jellyfin looks nicer. It's DEFINITELY easier to do things during playback in Jellyfin, as for example changing audio language, enabling subtitles, etc. are directly accessible in Jellyfin but have to be accessed through a submenu in Plex.
I can't coment on the finer details of the menu systems of Plex. Given that EVERYTHING even remotely (See what I did there?!), useful has been deliberately hidden behind the Great Paywall (i.e. Plex Pass). So I'm not going to doubt you. But, the over all presentation of Plex itself does feel both more professional, and thought out. Where as Jellyfin hasn't really grown much past its Emby roots, which itself felt behind the curve at the time.*
The only decent thing I can say about it, was although the Client App was like 5$ at the time. The same as the Plex App as I recall was at least more useful in that you couldaccess your Media contet, without shrinking the screen every second as was the case with Plex.
* Note this would be around 2016 IIRC, and I never bothered to revist it since. I accept that it may have since moved on in ways that Jellyfin has yet to.
I don't like jellyfin at all it looks 2010ish, plus it's based off of emby. I wasn't a fan of that either
@@Ichijoe2112 choose Plex because it's simply available on more devices. I run a server for family. It needs to be available even though the shitty Smart platforms they use. It's just better supported.
Are they really in that much trouble? I hope not. Plexamp is probably the best music player I've ever used.
Goodbye, and good riddance I say. There is no reason for Plex to be so locked down, and out as it is. When Jellyfin does 99.9999% of every reasonable thing I could ever ask if it. Outside of streaming, it's crappilly curated list of D Class Hollywood fims so toxic, that even the Mads (MST3k), would fear to handle, or yet another clone of the Roku Channel / Samsung TV Service. THAT ABSOLUTELY NOBODY ASKED FOR!
The only thing I would change about Plex (or more to a point Jellyfin), would be the re-addition of 'Channels' again. 'Channels' being a Plex euphemism for Kodi (Formally XBMC), Add-ons. But, we're starting to get a bit naughty there.
But, locking out the Client-side playback of Media, to either, an active You'll own nothing Subscription, or the soon to be executed Lifetime Tier. Was, and continues to be a huge dick move by that company. When they are not contributing one hot cent into the cost of storage, or more over the Watt Hour cost, of the host machine.
Jellyfin, definitely loses the slick factor to Plex, possibly even the idiot ease Factor as well. But, I'm more than willing to make the effort to setup a Jellyfin install to explicitly NOT have to pay to play my own content, on my own Hardware, on my own network, (Internal as external), on an Electric Grid, having to front those costs alone. Plex does not offer anything coming close to being of remote value, and were they to fold tomorrow, I wouldn't shead many tears for them.
On that note, you might want to try Jellyfin (Server side), and Finamp (As your Android Client), unlike Plex this function is NOT hidden away behind a Paywall, and I find it's almost as good as GPM was a few years ago. Again Plex can go and blow me before I would pay them some monthly / Anually / Lifetime Sub, with active Client limits, just to be able to stream my Music.
@@Ichijoe2112 I've seen a few replies from you about Finamp, does it have any of the radio/dj features of Plexamp? That's the main draw for me, and the only reason I still have Plex installed.
@@zeyfuller I just installed Plexamp to see what it looks like. There's a bunch of radio looking stuff Finamp doesn't have, but as far as just playing your own music I think Finamp has a better interface.
I got a lifetime pass a few years ago. I couldn't list for you the features I unlocked with it, I largely just wanted to give some cash to the developers, but didn't want to get locked into a subscription. Even then I was concerned about the sustainability of such a deal. As well as ongoing development, there's likely a lot of upkeep for the infrastructure, And with one off payments being an attractive option, unless you continually expand marketshare, that income will plateau.
I've been using them for about 3 years, and was always using an monthly sub, about 3 months ago they offered me 20% off a lifetime sub so bought it......makes you think something was afoot.
same here and often can't be bothered to use as Nvidia shield constantly says it won't connect without secure connection bullshit... sometimes works with my NAS but I don't rely on it.... pretty interface though and has been around for decades so figured I could throw it some cash, but it's ridiculous it has no support and quick work around from its constant disconnect from my NAS> the shitty basic DSvideo app from Synology, while basic and not as pretty without many features, is a thousand times more useable because it actually works!
I'm afraid if they abandoned their lifetime license and make everyone pay per month.. thats sucks for us lifetime license owner😢
The moment #plex removes my lifetime pass I’m out.
I bought a lifetime Plex Pass years ago.
Now, I run Plex, Jellyfin, and Emby containers side by side, all pointed at the same media library, so I can compare. I've even thought about buying a lifetime Emby license (I might if I caught it on sale) to make that comparison better.
But I basically just use Jellyfin these days, I have no reason to look at the others besides seeing how they do things differently, and I haven't found anything they really do better than Jellyfin does - at least not that I care about. Plex will let you download transcoded versions of stuff to mobile while Jellyfin will only let you download the full fat version, but I don't watch stuff on mobile, so I don't care.
Plex has some stupid programming that won't let you watch downloads on mobile devices without a data connection....I DONT NEED DOWNLOADS IF I HAVE A DATA CONNECTION.
@@transws6am I don’t watch on mobile other than a few seconds to test if it will transcode etc. but is that true of the option that lets you download the file locally? If so, that sucks.
@praetorxyn yep. I send them data on it all the time. Get errors while watching downloads saying "can't connect with server" or no "internet connection". When u send the data u just got told for a year that is odd, but lately they say that yes, you need server connection... making the feature useless
@@transws6am As a software developer, that's hilariously sad.
@praetorxyn I would love to sit with the CEO and my phone for five minutes and show him the 25 massive bugs that have been reported and lingered for 5-10 years. And these have carried from phone to phone. It's become a trash app.
Is they renege on the lifetime pass I'll move to Emby and Plex can go stuff themselves.
If they get heavy handed with lifetime restrictions, Jellyfin migrations will really take off.
AS a purchaser of 2 lifetime passes to support them I would be annoyed if they started scrapping it…. I’d be off to use jellyfin
They are between a rock and a hard place, anything they do that pisses off their customers will lead to their customers switching to Jellyfin.
They do any of this people will just switch to emby or jellyfin
I tried using jellyfin last year. It isn't as good looking and ease of use as plex
Jellyfin yes... Emby is basically the same model as Plex, presumably without the Roku /Samsung TV Channel things.
@@lodesmets9815Well JF doesn't win any Slick Awards, I'll Give you that one. Though you can download optional themes to help with that somewhat. But, if the lack of a 'Slick' interface is the cost (or lack thereof.), a "You will own nothing" subscription. I will continue to support my right to do what I choose to do with my own things. Honestly what are you getting for letting Plex rob you every month just to stream your private content off to the Tablet in your Bedroom, or Pink Floyd, on your Phone on your way to (or back from), work. Please tell me it's honestly something I have absolutely never been able to work out. If there is a benefit that as a Jellyfin user I'm somehow missing out on I'd love to know.
@@Ichijoe2112I've been considering a Plex pass so that I can set up a couple of headless RPI clients connected to speakers in different rooms in my house, and then use my android as a remote control to stream audio to / through them.
Do you know if this (or something equivalent) would be possible with Jellyfin?
@@lodesmets9815 Disagree completely. Try watching something with dual audio, and wanting to switch languages, or turning subtitles on and off. On Jellyfin, that's like two clicks. On Plex it's like 5.
Watching your recording of your daughters birthday with the family and half way through a AstraZeneca or Viagra commercial starts playing…
I love Plex. Really have no complaints. Would be nice if they added digital comics as an option
Plex has tried "Hardware" before. Didn't work. They maybe should make a Plex OS for TV's etc like Roku. They also need to separate plex server more from their plex streaming. Currently how they have it can be confusing to a lot of people. Also people who have their own content are not going to watch Ad supported content.
On that note why should we have to pay them (or by proxy Emby), to stream our private AV Media anyway. Jellyfin manages to get this right, why can't they? If they want to become the nith Netflix / Samsung TV / Roku Channel thingy great, than pay for that. Oh yeah because Samsung, Roku, and Pluto TV already do that, and probably better than Plex ever could.
@@Ichijoe2112 Remember Jellyfin is an old version of Emby, if it wasn't for Emby and the developer at one point open sourcing their code there would be no Jellyfin. (As Jellyfin has not changed much from the initial old Emby code)
Sorry to say but people have to eat and so in order to eat they need to be paid.
I have no problem paying for both Plex and Emby (I have lifetime passes for both) to be able to get new and improved features etc.
Sad to say you can see the difference in Plex, Emby and Jellyfin (For instance how many devices can you stream Jellyfin on with a native client, Plex is everywhere from XBox to Roku, Android, iOS, Apple TV etc. You have it and you can plex from it. Jellyfin??? )
That comes from having money to develop and support.
Not entirely true. Every once in a while I see a show on Plex that piques my interest and I watch it.
No matter what changes they have in mind, let me say that I will not subscribe to anything anymore. I cancelled everything a couple of years ago and will not go back. Every effin company tries to go to subscription model, which effectively filters out most software that I might buy for one-off fee.
What you mean you actually want to own stuff, and be unhappy?
Eat 'ze bugs ya biggit! 🤣
Thanks for the update!
I miss the seagulls...
I switched to Jellyfin months ago, so glad I did.
I bought lifetime purely for the software. I don't care about, or have ever used the shitty movie/tv show feature.
Same, why bring it in. Ludicrous trying to match netflix or Amazon.
Specially, in my region, they put in their welcome page those low budget -this is not pr0n- movies like WTF
@@thenetpagan I checked out what's available a couple of times, 99% of em were bargain bin dvd tier stuff that nobody wants, and I think hurt locker, the single good movie among them.
@@kolossarthas And that Hurt Locker version I'm sure is 720p or worse.
I still have until March 2024 paid on Plex, but I dropped it, Plex got real janky on a lot of things, I use Emby now and I love it, also retired the weak little AS1102T.
Today I set up my new Lockerstor Gen 2 AS6702T, this is the one I had wanted, just couldn't afford it, I have it now and I'm loving it.
I'm still confused, because i just know them as a software that basicly turns my movies/shows DVD/Blueray rips into a "netflix libary".
FOR ME it's a freeware software like VLC player (that replayed winamp). Once i installed it on my TV i noticed that there are a lot of random channels that i didnt care about, because my TV has enoth channels that i dont need. (it even comes with a Samsung App that gives me EVEN MORE). Why would i need extra channels from Plex?
Then i saw you making a video about it and noticed that they thought that they spend a lot of money to implement random channels.... and they even want money for it, while people start to turn away from streaming services? WHO came up with this?
You might want to have a nose in at Jellyfin. Plex may be a lot of things, Freeware was never one. (Yes ok the Server might be, but 99% of what Plex does is behind the Client-Side Paywall.)
Someone will come out with scripts that mimic plex from your own nas if plex try to scam us all
Plex needs to make a digital content store so members can buy movies and TV shows and able to keep them alot like apple tv
I somehow have the feeing that Disney Co., and Universal, and Paramount, would rather you just download it from their Streaming Sites. Hell even Apple have all but buried iTunes on the Mac. Its about the recurring revenue of Spotifooiy Subscriptions now. Its also why Google axed GPM (With its Music Store), for RUclips Red (Music), where you just rent it. e.g. The "You will own nothing, and be happy." business model.
Plex has been working on a digital store for a while. It was supposed to release already
Cant they have a version for the majority of us lifetime pass holders that just want "our library" with hw acceleration and all the other stuff as a separate product or upgrade?
Still love Plex, really hope they don't mess with the ad free environment. Also being able to use Plex on my home network even when their is no active Internet (wan no lan yes) is essential.
The only way I'm aware of that you can use Plex locally when the internet is out is to disable LAN auth while you're connected online... but this is a bad idea as it means anyone in your house has admin rights on your server and can delete all your shit if they feel like it.
This is one of the big reasons that while I still run Plex, I only ever look at it for the sake of comparing things, and use Jellyfin now.
Why use Plex, let alone be forced to pay for that trash-fire, when Jellyfin is a thing?
Serious question, does jellyfin have something like PlexAmp? Plexamp is probably the most important aspect of Plex for me
@@Mopsie Yes it's called Finamp.
Funny how my last post on Finamp seems to have landed down the memoryhole. It's almost like you can't say bad things about our sponsor, and savoir Plex here. 🤔
@@Mopsie Finamp
I've been using Plex for free for years did not know they were in trouble, just bought a lifetime pass to show support. I use it every day.
They had like $50m in revenue. The only reason they're in trouble is because they've wasted the money they were given developing a bunch of bullshit nobody asked for nor wanted. Don't feel sorry for them. If they had simply fixed the bugs people wanted them to fix and shored up the platform that people paid for in the first place, they'd be sitting on a pile of money.
If they take away feature support to life-time users, I think they will end up in a worst situation than they already are in. Just saying.
i got the plex lifetime because its was a good did and didnt want to risk waiting & have to deal with a price hike.if the cut that lifetime pass am fileing a classaction lawsuit lol
With the very recent news that Plexamp will become free (as in Beer), it seems to me that the death of the Plex Pass might actually becone a thing. Not in so far as increasing clamp downs upon its use, but rather in the watering down of the features previously sold as exclusive functions of said Software. In this case that of Audio Media Steaming. Makes you wonder if, or when Video Transcoding will join this party.
Yeah… if they get rid of the lifetime pass I’ll leave Plex even tho I have one already. The real problem is that if they screw over their lifetime pass members the won’t get recommended as much, and new people who have no idea what plex is will get directed to other options by the community when they first set up a home media server.
I am laughing at 'Lifetime' chimps lmao.
I've had a "Lifetime" Plex Pass since it went on "sale" for $75 in Sept 2014.
Timely video what with the PlexAmp news.
Outta interest what Plexamp news? Just want to throw it out there that with Plexamp (unsurprisingly, being yet another feature to be hidden behind the great paywall of "You will own nothing!"), was perhaps the single greatest motivator for me to learn Docker, or QNAPs take of that, and to get Jellyfin up, and somewhat running. Works well enough for music. Though I gather I have to do some convoluted Linux command-line level manure to get 4k Transcodes to work, as IIRC, QNAP were as thoughtful to place the Video group, inside the Root level. With the upshot that Video Transcoding doesn't quite work like it should.
Plex needs to officially support and encourage Plugins (yes I know Plugins already works for now) to make them more competitive to Emby and Jellyfin
I kinda remember these Plugins when when they (Plex), called them Channels. They didn't stick 'round very long, and for someone on an nVidia Shield at the time, way more trouble than it was worth. Long story short they ditched it citing piracy. So bringing that back again, still wouldn't intrest me in the slightest, as Kodi (i.e XBMC), already owns that niche.
i have a plex lifetime pas also years ago i think the ones that have a plex lifetime pass should keep it because they already purchases it. plex needs to make a plug that tells you when a show is completed or ongoing. stil.
I only use plex to stream my music collection. I love it as is.
So now i am affraid of what will happen to plex and my plex pass, when will someone put a tutorial to access jellyfin outside local network?
I could never get plex to work properly. It was always reducing resolution. I'm sure it was my fault but I wasn't able to figure it out. I went to Kodi, which is quirky but does work. I have all my optical disks transferred to a server and am able to watch them in full resolution.
Kinda gets the mind jogging as to why no one in the Kodi (XBMC), community, never thought to address the Server side of Kodi. Honestly, I think it would be the nex-gen killer app, for what is increasingly becoming a dated platform.
I would note that 99.9% of my Kodi (XBMC), experience has been in (or on?) external network Add-ons. Most of which were dying anyway for one reason, or other. The most recent nail in that coffin being the switch over to Python 3 (IIRC). Which basically culled what little was left.
That said Kodi (XBMC), was never intended to be a server, but a Client-only device. Which kinda nixes it's use case outside itself.
I go back and forth between plex and jellyfin. Both do things I like that the other doesn't do.
I got a lifetime pass years ago for about £40. It was such a giid offer i couldn't refuse it. It makes sense to stop doing that now. But if they restrict it ill be completely pissed off and wouldn't give them another penny. 😢
If they add advertisements to my own server for ANY of my users, I'm 110% out. And that's speaking as a 5+ year Lifetime pass user. I am already annoyed with the Plex TV and Movies sections that only serve to confuse my users.
Can't they remove the need for their own servers (for those of us hosting our own servers)
i just want to watch my own content in peace. no ads, no subscription, no fancy "features". Hopefully they wont mess with that.
Here's an idea... Plex could fix offline downloads to stop the bleeding of users. This is why I've stopped using Plex.
The last thing i want is another device, they should focus on making the web player and other client apps better, and fix the massive amount of bugs and missing features those don't have...its a joke, i hope a better alternative (other than jellyfin) comes soon because its obvious this company isn't focusing anymore on the actual experience, just more profit...
plex somewhat could be good for them bu t people, plex cloud storage lol no way, the amount of pirated content on that system would be amazing!
I'm afraid you've given them ideas
They could poll current users for things things that regularly piss them off and make people look elsewhere for a start. I'll give one example: You add a movie that Plex is not 100% sure about. The file name and year etc is fine and to their requirements, yet Plex misidentifies it rather than leave it alone or highlight it in some manner for user intervention. Because it's been incorrectly matched (and frequently with any other letter of the alphabet than what the file name starts with, which is maddening) you then have to scroll through every damn movie thumbnail looking for something that doesn't belong. I don't know how many times I've done this but with over 1200 movies it takes a long time. It doesn't always appear in recently added either which would simplify finding it.
Plex has left the kodi addon broken for months now despite a simple patch being available on github. Why don't they push an update to their repository? It really shows a lack of care to neglect small easy but useful fixes.
I wish that we could not be locked into giver allow me to use my own crap and organize it my way not a database because people can miss with it allow it as secondary source as photos but don’t change my original file difference
Please stop giving Plex ideas haha.
Plex is cool
Jellyfin while not as perfect, or as polished, as Plex is even cooler. But, given its not a fire, and forget solution, like Plex is, or has enough revenue from Subscribers to front a major Ad campaign, or YT sponsorship deals, that make it (somewhat, and rightly so.), a household word. There is a bit of self congratulation in having successfully getting Jellyfin setup.
It's a scam, for the ones buying a lifetime subcription like me right now but if core features will be lost to life ttime users i'm leaving. This damn program is a pain in the ass anyway in order to build te library, setting it up and running it of appropriate hardware.
Just be a movie db stop with all the other nonsense
Plex needs to get rid of useless features. The live TV has to go. It is terrible
Umm, no. I use and record with my HDHomeRun all the time.
@@joshualutz166I think he was talking about the free, ad supported, content.
I think allowing hardware encoding for free with ads makes sense.
Why not make it, along with basically everything else free? You want to watch D-list moves so bad, the Mads from MST3k, wouldn't even touch em? Than enjoy this Ad, or a Subscription, al-la Netflix, another s-it-tier Subscription Service with absolutely nothing of value on it, a bargin at only 20€ a month! Oh yeah I forgot I ditched Netflix two years ago now.
When Plex start chipping into my Hardware (i.e. Storage), and or Electrical costs, than we can talk about paying them to "manage" the backend. Till then I'll just continue managing my instance of Jellyfin. And know that I do NOT have to pay a "You will own nothing" Sub just to stream my Music on the Subway ride to, and from Work. Or if I wanted to view some movies on a Tablet before going to bed. Whatever Plex may be worth to you, those simple functions are an outright ripoff to me. No value / no sale / no tears shead when we finally see the back of them. Screw Plex, and on that note yes Emby too!
Lifetime licenses with free updates has always been a killer. The developers get more money in one shot, then that’s it. I got burned by that with another software and I go monthly at this point in time.
Also, I mentioned in another post that Plex has tried to be the do all and end all application for media. I left them because to me, their UI became a mess. They need to simplify that and make it more use friendly. I would also suggest that they start with a basic package and if users want the additional features, they could add modules for additional fees. It shouldn’t be an all or nothing set up.
Maybe Plex does this now, but my NAS set up is two Synology NAS’s and one QNAP. I’m scaling down and want remove the QNAP that has the intel processor.
I have a mini pc that works great for transcoding and uses less power. I currently use Emby. Emby looks like it should access network shares,but it doesn’t seem to work and I don’t want to have to maintain two copies of my media. I’ll look at Plex again and maybe I’ll consider moving back.
I’ll see.
I will never join the "You will own nothing!" mentality. If you want my money you better be prepared to make me an value proposition, and no let us not include Adobes fleet of commercial Software in that pot. If that's how you want to view Photoshop, and Lightroom, or Premiere, and After Effects, then your not using that software correctly, as the value proposition of that software should be in the income made from your customers, and or the Ad Revenue from RUclips.
Bro can’t even watch transformers anymore:.(
This idea of giving away premium software free should go away. Should not be free if it costs millions to develop.
Just a public criticism of PlexAmp on Windows. The UI is garbage.
I realize that the person at Plex who champions PlexAmp does not give a damn about what I think. I have seen this attitude on several software titles that I beta tested and the software was withdrawn from the market. Honestly the PlexAmp UI only needs a FEW changes to make it acceptable.
Plex player on Windows is pretty good, thought the non-changeable color background color in the Photos section is criminal, I NEED a white/gray/black background.
If they have 20 million users 100 USD each, they would have earned 2 Billion USD!!!! Put on a Stock ETF with only three percent revenue they would have 60 Million USD per year. Or did they need 2 Billion USD for the Plex software?
the vast majority of plex users just watch the content that nerds like us host on our nas.
@@adacPROKYON But then the idea of cancelling the lifetime pass or all this is not an effictive way. They have to restrict the access to the shared media to Pass owners. Then they earn much more than 50 Million USD.
@@pelle7771 if they do that they would probably lose a huge chunk of their "audience", its probably easier to get the people who already invested money into plex to pay some more. i dont know how to fix the issue that plex is facing, i think they just over expanded into the wrong direction with their whole trying to be a content provider thing.
@@pelle7771I would have sowrn it was so always thus with Plex. Ditto for Plexamp. No Plex Pass? No worky!
The worst part about this "Deal" was the fact that (IIRC), you were just limited to the six client (users), and had to eventually buy more licences at that point. Thankfully whatever faults Jellyfin may have, this was never one of them.
@@Ichijoe2112no, none of that is correct. The plex pass, purchased by the server owner, is shared to all home or managed users.
You can have 15 total, home or managed users.
I think you can share with up to 99 friends, but the plex pass is not shared.
I trust they nailed their destiny with going woke, like bud lite and Target.
Huh?
Mate...what are you on about?
Don't skip your meds fam
Don't punish the users who purchased a lifetime subscription by taking it away. Instead make it so the free users cannot access shared libraries from the web or tv apps like they currently can! Since many who have lifetime passes are probably trying to run their own private Netflix equivalent for their friends and family, this will make it so their "clients" also need a plex pass to view... a cheaper tier for around $2/month that allows streaming from web or tv app (no mobile streaming, and no other plex pass features) would be appealing - could make it so it plays only 30 minutes per day unrestricted and/or first 2 minutes of the video, so they could at least try it out to see what they would be missing - then pop up with a message instructing them how to purchase if they want more! If each Plex server has three or four "clients" then this is a good revenue opportunity. They could do variations on this like after the first few minutes, throttle down the quality by forcing transcoding on the server and limiting to SD quality and mono audio (would probably be fine on a phone/mobile device which is why this cheap tier would not allow streaming to mobile). And stop selling new lifetime subscriptions in the short term, and maybe only introduce them at an undetermined rate or like a lottery every so only to current subscribers. Then this will make the people who bought one feel even more special and they can brag about it online to everyone, and make people stay subscribed in hopes they may scoop up one!